Tour de France (2.UWT)Stage 17Chambéry - Voiron174.7kmStartlist:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2026/startlistGC after stage 16:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2026/stage-16-gcRoadbook:https://www.xoo-cycling.ch/download/roadbooks/roadbook_tour-de-france_2026.pdfLive stats:https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2026/stage-17/liveStreams:https://cyclingtiz.live/https://dlhd.pk/Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / France TV / ARD1 / RTBF / VRT / DKTV2 / RTVE / Rai / NOS / EITB / RTP / RTV Slo / SRG-SSR12:40 CETPrevious thread:>>157050577
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Are you sure this stage is not in reverse?Surely they would not put the mountains in the front.
I am more worried about a sprint run in that seems to be on a downhill
>>157071807seems like breakaway stage that fatties couldn't get into, so maybe there won't be much of a sprint there
MADS attaque inévitable
>>157071704Yeah I'm thinking Grug
>>157072110
>>157072126*laughs in MADS* >>157070753 # Apparently Pogs bike was a full kg lightercthan Totalenergies bikes. >>157070780 # Actually sad
>>157072576He didn't find the time yet to go to the dentist? How is he eating the burgers?
>>157072947Tear off pieces and chew on the unaffected side. When I did martial arts dudes would have no front teeth and just ate like dogs tearing food off with the back teeth. Teeth are overrated.
Given the GC situation, what are we going to see in the Alps? Seixas in front, with Pogi wheelsucking on him, while also piggybacking del Toro? Imagine the French seethe if Pogi counters every Seixas attack by pulling del Toro back, then oversprinting him right before the finish, and then gifting del Toro more stage wins / bonus seconds.
>>157073023Dont think we will see anything different than last Sunday Pog leads with Toro and Remco in his wheel and the rest gets dropped. Pog takes the first dehuez and I dont see any GC changes.
Stage looks hilly
>>157073198I agree, so literally what the german said. He needs to fuck off so we can get some kino. Paul vs burrito show down on d'huez would be generational kino.
You guys seen Chris Harper's finger? Nasty stuff.
g-d it’s been great reading german socials
Fads supremacy
>>157073359>g-dI know what you are.
>>157073274these days cyclists do anything to lose some weight
Imagine living there
>>157073733is this all you do Hans, pine for the French countryside (I do it too)?
>starting to see words in piles of hay bails
>>157073457Whenever i see this unit it gives me faith that i am gonna make it
oh o
CHUTE
l see quite a few green tractors on the roadsides. do french farmers use john deere equipment?
>>157073623
don’t chute please I don’t have live images yet
HOLY SHIT SEE THAT OMG WTFthe tour will never be the sameif anyone didn't see that suck a fat onethey'll never show that againwow
>>157073815So what color of glasses does /cyc/ wear? Amber? Rose? Regular black tint?
>>157074080i mostly just squint
>woman commentatorugh, dont they have their own tours
>>157074142Easy when you're Chinese.
>>157074080I cycle in aviators
>>157074080Never seen a bike in my life
My sources are saying Del Toro not in the peloton
>>157074263Fake picture. Antonello Venditti never partake in the TDF.
>>157074263Thanks, now I am homosex.
why are they even pulling with Pogacar in the group
>pogi in the breakawayhmm
>>157074364More like peloton split which Pogacar, evenepoel, and Seixas managed to be in the front part, but del Toro did not.
>>157074364he is in full domestique mode covering for torito getting dropped atm
Fads bros are we in trouble?
>>157074375it's the break combined with the first part of the peloton, and for some reason the break riders are still pulling even with gc riders in there
>>157074080Just regular black sunglasses from ray ban that my mom bought me for my birthday many years ago
Martinez in the front group, Pidcock behind - Pinarello will probably kill themselves pulling if necessary and sprinter teams want to pull too. This break looks doomed.
>>157074383It's Pedoversen
Del Toro (white jersey) back in the peloton
>>157074469of course as I write that the GC riders go back to the peloton, so it's now just break vs sprinters
>>157074490Based front groupFat sprinters must be punished, no free stage for you
why is decathlon riding
Van der Poop
i miss when the bora boys with sagan would just ride these stages so hard to drop all the sprinters, i really enjoyed those
TSD
if this becomes a mass sprint there will def be chutes, lots of corners last few km
i'm shaking with excitement
Weird how there were no breakaway and no grupetto past the big mountain, and now that it's just hilly there are riders all over the road.
Is this true? I still ride 25mm
>>157074883it is definitely comfier on wider tyres
wake me up for the alps
>>157074883Same. Riding is suffering, using wide tyres to increase comfort feels like cheating. You MUST be scared of every little stone and pothole to cause unimaginable pain to your wrists and ankles, otherwise it's not proper riding.
>>157074921Imagine living in this cave
>>157074921>coolness
>>157074883The tires on my road bike measure 33 mm wide.
Yeis ded
>Yates
Looks like Yates is done
Yates ded
>>157074883Why the fuck is velon shilling for some second rate tire brand
I just tuned in, why is yates seething what happened
Bit sus innit
Mads trying to make the stage exciting
ATTAQUE DU PEDERSEN
>Del toro lacheed on the first climb>yates completely cooked>pogacar losing to evenepoel twice in a rowis it UAEover? they might have an illness in the team
no, thanks
Is Mads retarded? What is the point of this attack?
I saw Mads Pedersen in a Lidl in Holbæk a few weeks ago. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Lidl pasteries in his hands without paying.The Lidl cashier at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the pasteries and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each pastery and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning and saying "I have an employee discount" really loudly.
That's a slow peloton
>>157075092Stage win?
>>157074883I just don't use anything less than 32 anymore, I'm not fast anyways and 32 or even 35 is just much more comfortable to ride on. Also turning is much better on wider tires. The reason you see guys crash in these TTs is because the tires they're using are so fucking narrow. Also lower pressure is way more comfortable on rough roads too.
Remco should have jumped
>>157075059>some second rate tire brand>MichelinThey can certainly pay who they want to advertise their stuff.
Mads is such a menace I love it. Lidl is an exciting team.
> sprinters up front attacking each other uphill> gc riders in the back riding relaxed to the finish in a small groupupside down world
MVDPoo beating poogacar in the final stage would be kino. Two years in a row beaten by the two classics rivals. Hopefully it rains but it seems there's a drought around europe. Hasn't rained properly in weeks here and it doesn't look like any is coming soon.
Yates dying lol
Fads looks kinda tired bros, is he going the distance?
it's adover
what's up with Yeis? food poisoning?
did he died
>>157075020Do you use clinchers or tubeless? I just ride 25mm out of habit, I think my bike accomodates up to 30mm, I never really thought about going wider because I don't feel like it's particularly bothersome. I have a 25mm pair in the closet but maybe i'll try 30's for my next-next pair if it's so much better
yatesy is just saving his legs for a breakaway win tomorrow checkem
>>157075173OD'ing on dope
CUIT
How can you become dopage inspector for Tour de Femme?
>>157071704so uae is giving away the team classification?
>>157075210Just forge yourself a resume, they don't check anything in France.
>>157075271I just want to watch cute girls pee
>>157075266Großschartner said in an interview that their #1 priority is yellow for Tadej and #2 podium for Isaac, everything else isn't that important
I think we should have a Tour of only flat, crosswind and hilly stages
>>157075301sure, Mads
>>157075301the Germany grand tour sponsored by LIDL
>>157075301>tour de slurp
Is it worth watching already?
>>157075301Thats the Eneco BinckBank whatever they call it now tour
>>157075210They don't really care about doping with the femmes. Jeannie Longo was a known doper her whole career and she's considered a legend in france
>>157075266Its only 23 sec atm they will take it on the Alp d'huez
tourist lost in the corn fields
Yates going so slow, and yet there are two riders going even slower than him. Johannesen and Cepeda
>>157075325And still lost regularly to clean Dutch hags
>>157075301And one minute time bonus for winning a stage. Then finish with one mountain stage
>>157075322>The Renewi Tour (formerly known as the Eneco Tour, BinckBank Tour, and then the Benelux Tour) is a multi-stage cycling race held in Belgium and the Netherlands. >It usually begins with a prologue followed by several flat stages or stages through the hilly hills of the Belgian Ardennes or Dutch Limburg.Sounds exciting.
G2 syndrome really kicking in now...
>>157075400this triggers the protty
Jordan stealing GC minutes again
New UCI statement just dropped on the doping checkshttps://www.uci.org/pressrelease/uci-statement-on-anti-doping-controls-conducted-during-the-tour-de-france/4roVz8eQdAf5xWIcG45a8v
pretty wholesome hope they finish the stage
UAE sent Wellens to try save Yeis
>>157075484booooooooooooo
>>157075506That is the look of a man that has been giving blood for 3 people
>>157075484>justified circumstanceshmm
>>157075445>>157075442>>157075400French people living in paradise of earth
>>157075484To me a 2am doping test raid hurts the sport more than the actual doping
>>157075524>>justified circumstancesMaybe somebody broke omerta :O
Mads getting away with it again lol
it's over
Love Mads but the green jersey battle this year was super lame. Feels like the overthought it with the scoring
>>157075536Based doper apologist.
>>157075564how is it lame. Mads is earning every daylame would be just sprints
>>157075484It feels like this statement says nothing of note or significance. "We respect the riders, and doping tests are important". That's all I got out of it. Nothing concrete
What if...HAGENES won today?
>>157075577Its lame that pog is not involved or remco
>>157075536Reinforcing the Kafka trap, which is what shit like that does, is the real damage.
I cant believe Stuyven would do this to his old master
>>157075617Mads has gun factor for his old teammate surely
Pray for Engelhardt to win the stage please. Germany deserves it.
>>157075636germany deserves nothing
>>157075590>Pier strand Hagenees
>>157075636Silly German with another jinx. Engelshart will chute now
G2 syndrome really gotta be studied
>>157075651Het enige wat Mofrika verdient is een waterstofbom
>G2 in charge of working together
solo breakaway is so based
>>157075536For me, I like when they catch dopeurs because that is pure evil, but I don't think it's good for the sport when they vilify clean riders by raising the spectre of active doping without any real evidence. Because I always imagine what it must be like to be a clean rider that gets treated by people as a dirty rider, and that spectators start to behave dangerously or aggressively when you idn't do anything wrong
Mads Pedersagan
>>157075661Nobody wants to pull Mads to the finishLetting the group behind catch up is better for everyone (except Mads)
>night-time doping controls >Dopeur and team immediately intentionally tone down or lose their oppressive dominanceReally makes you think
>>157075712>They can't just let Mads most likely win>So they'll let Stuyven for sure win with no chance of contending it
89 kmh
Hope he wins somehow
Rappe Jappe Stuyver
Why is Johannesen helping ?
>>157075750Alpecin and Gayco have 3 guys each who they can sacrifice, and a few other teams have multiple riders, too
Stuvyen is going to caught in the TDF just before the finish again
>>157075776Helping Yates*
He's not gonna make it. That hurts :(
Hodl
the group is too big for G2 syndrome
Why does a superstar like Grug accept to be a hjælper?
>>157075777Yeah mb, didn't realize how close the chasing hjaelper group was to them
>fads
get that lazy shit mvdp on the front right fucking now
>>157075838because Jappe is his bro
>be in France>watch TdF on French TV for the first time>they actually say things like laché! and chute! chute!I laughed
>>157075851
It's Stuyvenover
Mads bros…
'sover
Zieh Georg
>>157075851yeah I'm watching a fench stream it's pretty funny, they really be like "deuxxxx kilometttttt"
>>157075706I don't like it when cycling gets singled out. Did they do 2 am controls during the footie WC? Of course not. And you'd have to be stupid to think other sports dope less.
>>157075901yeah well no other sport has the history of doping like cycling does, and the reputational damage it suffered because of it. Especially since cycling is a more individual centered sport, not a team sport.
Jappe wins
So, it happened again
Philipsen wins!!Finally VDP does a serviceable leadout
easybout fucking time
slurp
JAPPEJAPPEJAPPE
Based GRUG monster leadout
This might be the worst sprint performance by a green jersey.
>>157075920Three in a row6 stagesStrong option on green
BOO
>>157075942De koers is van ons, broeder
>>157075901Recently they caught the French pétanque team for match-fixing, if that's any consolation.
Mads will just gobble points in the mountains now while Jasper is blowing out his arse in the grupettoCould have been more interesting if Jasper didn't fuck up so many sprints already
Roothooft EMOTIONAL
top 10
>>157075901My personal theory: I think it's the perception (bolstered by past experience) that whoever dopes hardest and most sophisticated wins in cycling, whereas in other sports there's either a perception of a more even playing field (track and field, long-distance running etc) or even a sense of doping being a minor factor (football). While these might be patently false (it's pretty unrealistic to be at the highest level in any sport without partaking, and there's a reason why nations take turn dominating certain disciplines, but only for a while), cycling has seen multiple wins clearly being driven by doping more than anything else. TL;DR: other sports don't have Bjarne Riis and other winners that would have been very obviously impossible without doping being a major factor in who's winning even if everyone is doing it
Merlier staat niet op de foto michel
Luv Zimmermann
tic toc Mads
>>157075977I still think the football equivalent to Bjarne is Leicester City in 15-16. That whole team was moving like supermen
>>157075992Green without a mass sprint win sure is something
>>157075992No more sprint stages though, I think Pedersen has done enough & he can go in a couple of breakaways to lock it up
>>157075901If you find evidence for doping in pro football and try to publish it, you're dead. No way they will let you interfere with their multi-billion-cash cow.
Jegat big winner today, niw just 1m06s down on Pidcock.
>>157075190Tubeless. I highly recommend at least giving them a try.
>>157075964GC
>>157076011Hushovd did ittwice even, if i remember correctly
>>157074883went to 30mm with TPU's and honestly it's lovely, although if I drop the pressure to the most comfiest ride quality, I do tend to get snake bites on some of the gravel sections I like to do, usually because of hitting a stone in a hole at high speed. So to avoid that, my pressure is around 60 psi, which is a bit more uncomfortable than I'd like. That's why my next tyres will be either be 32 or 35mm.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I"M LATE!
>>157076298
>>157076417Is there chocolate inside that medal?
>>157075084TRVEremember when van rizzle was goodtheir bikes went downhill bigly
>suffered like a dog
>>157076112My Giant Propel was set up with them out of the factory and I didnt' really notice much different to be honest. I punctured once and then I had to walk home, so I'm afraid to ride tubeless out on holiday where i'm always alone and far from home; I want to be able to do roadside repair and with tubeless that just seems a big problem (and i honestly don't puncture much, haven't punctured once this year with my conti gp 5000s)
>>157076581There's huge differences with sealants. I use Orange seal and I've had like one puncture that needed a plug. I have Dynaplugs on my road bike and WTB TCS rocket kit on my gravel bike. It's also possible to put a tube into a tubeless tire even if it's a bit more difficult but I haven't carried one for a couple of years now. Stay away from inserts if you want to carry a spare tube just in case tho. Because in case you get an unsealable hole in a tire with an insert you're riding with the insert. Impossible to remove roadside. That said if tubes aren't a problem for you there's no huge benefit in tubeless. The biggest one is if you're (amateur) racing since sealant will often save your race if you get a small puncture.
Mid ride snack
>>157076905smashburgers are great I’m happy there’s a good fair priced frituur near me that specializes in it and has a smash of the month deal
>>157076905>snackIs that Hesburger?
>>157074883yeah. another benefit is less flats. everyone racing is now on 28 or 30mm tires that measure 30-33 when inflated because of how wide modern rims are. even the tt bikes are on 28shere's an article about what widths various riders are running on the tour: https://www.bikeradar.com/features/tech/tour-de-france-2026-tyre-data
Moho asking the real questions
>>157077315>the Frenchthey skipped Lenny Martinez?
>>157077374He means Seixas>"[...] we know that the Frenchman high in the general classification did not get this control." By this, Mohoric is referring to Paul Seixas, who had his test in the evening rather than at night.
>+50 bikes x-rayed every day>Night doping tests>Every single rider in the peloton tested on the rest dayFeels squeaky clean Berts.
imagine if they night raided footballers during WC
>>157077649Imagine if they tested footballers.
>>157077595release the balance sheets. I want to see dollar spent per positive test
>>157077669kek basically they alll look roided with massive hgh skulls to boot
>>157077834Football was seriously the last major sport to collaborate with WADA. First in 2006!
>>157077595Well, let's wait for the results first
>>157077669Coincidently there was a Bilbao player banned last season if I remember right? Same coaching staff that UAE has with a masseur (I think he left before this year) and doctor.
>>157078092really makes the ol' noggin pulsate
i looked at jonas crash again and visma literally did not follow the moto which went inside on the turn. they did a retarded outside turn and then blamed the moto??
>>157077315Why testing the French, we already know he's clean. Are tested those who come from suspicious coutries, those who have a suspicious name, or suspicious faces etc.On a side note, did Yates make it to the finish line ?
>>157078701>then blamed the moto??Isn't that just one SD covering for Campenaerts fuckup?
>>157078830Reminds me of>Maradona also found it suspicious that only the deciding match (against Australia) had no anti-doping control. Grondona, chairman of AFA back then, responded that there were no tests because Maradona, who already had a drug history, might not have passed.
>>157077315
>Philipsen walking past Pedersen at the hotel
what do you think of tomorrow's stage? breakaway?
tour kinda died with vingegaard for me
>>157079233They are not living in the same hotel.
It looks like PCSman changed the all time ranking
>>157079296Maybe GC guys will probably wait for Fr/Sat
Pogacar is sick. He won't win this Tour.
>>157076996Hesburger is shit
>>157079847Is it really? I only know it from Finish memes.. hmmm
>>157079685Kelly lost 2.6 points, moser 57.9 points. For comoarison a Tour GC wiin is worth 50.
>>157079792>Pogacar is sick. He won't win this Tour by 10+ minutes
>>157079847shit is relative, it's better than mcdonalds, burger king and kfc in terms of giving you a decent burger.
>>157079898I found a July 2025 version archiveby wayback machine.Merckx +40Kelly -4.3Moser -57.9De Vlaeminck -1.7Hinault -17.8Valverde +0Anquetil -54.1Van Looy +1.7Bartali -3.6Jalabert -19.1Saronni -18.3Coppi -45.9Maertnes -15.1Gimondi -30.3Zoetemelk -12.4Zabel -13.1Sagan +0Rominger -22Poulidor -29.7Binda +0
>>157080213He's been inventing results without anybody noticing
mads is gonna lose the jersey isnt he
>>157079999Imagine Pogi actually being sick and Remco winning the TDF.It would not only be a huge asterisk result, it would also mean my social downfall as I have been shittalking remco for months
>>157081626I very much doubt it Jappe can get to any of the intermediates before Mads this week.
>>157082067Sick Pogi still beats Remco probably He'd need to fully crash out, and we know Pogi never crashes
>>157082067Losing by seconds which he would have had, had he not tried to help del toro several times.
>>157082252Can big Mads make it over the Montmartre with Pog in Paris?
>>157083637Possibly. Who knows how dead everyone will be by Sunday? We got a lot of climbing left.
>>157087009>Just be yourself
>>157083637He has to farm intermediates and hope Pog destroys Paris or that they let Grug loose for some reason. If Grug is there to close gaps for Jappe, Fads is fucked.
spectators run for their life
>>157087009>Wout when he can’t race but has a lifetime contract>>157087039Megakek
>>157075907Weightlifting has a worse history
Wife woke me up at 7:30 and I'm dead and gone.What a struggle, how do other people do this on the daily?It should be illegal to wake up before 9
>>157087465Yellow Jersey skillfully avoids the chute.
>>157087694i have to wake up at 5 every day :(but honestly this actually works pretty well rn, because i'm done with work at about 1/2-ish, right when the NOS broadcast starts
>>157082532
>>157087921I used to work from 2am to 8am for a while. Then i'd play some games and go to bed at 9am to wake up 5pm. Barely saw any sunlight in winter. And that was way easier than a 9 to 5 to me desu
PCSman has added to roder profiles how many times they wore a classification or championship jersey. For Pogacar it says he wore the European Championship jersey 4 times.
>>157087733You are gay
new thread >>157089129new thread >>157089129new thread >>157089129
>>157080001It isn't when taking into account everything that comes with going to Hesburger. It's literally the only fast food burger place where you're waiting forever for your burgers. And it's still a fast food burger that isn't notably better than what you'd get at any other fast food place.
>>157077595>Feels squeaky clean Berts.No one who rides TdF is stupid enough to get caught at TdF.
>>157076889>t's also possible to put a tube into a tubeless tire evenOne feller on "a cycling site" said he uses tubeless tyres with tubes exclusively for their tougher sidewalls.Interesting argument, especially since nice (read: pricey) tyres tend to have extra delicate sidewalls - as proved by GP4k's I used to run back in the day and how the sidewall ripped for no reason whatsoever, like, 2 months in.Still put 3 season onto them after the infamous candy wrapper repair, tho.
>>157076905How do you still fit your bike after THAT?>>157087465Lmao, what the heck is this?
