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Good fight /box/ bros
>>157530695why the fuck does he look Indian here
Klitschkos in their prime would still be dominant if they fought today. Hrgovic was eating shots all night and couldn't use his jab to hold off Itauma. Klitschkos would cut up Hrgovic's face easily and they both hit much harder also.
No but seriously if you are a heavyweight boxer you land all your punches clean and they don't do any damage and you lose from being totally gassed out and drained how do you recover from thatYou did everything right and won every round.
>>157530695i kneel to el animal
>endures the punishment>imbibes the holy spirit>derails the hype train>gets the unification fight
>>157530728become a more cuatious boxer, don't load up on every shot, don't gas yourself going for the knockout, do just enoughto win the round
>>157530722Vitali yes, Wlad's might have got speed merchant'd
>>157530728>You did everything right and won every roundExcept for the round that mattered, of course.
>>157530722Vitali yeah but Wlad's chin would probably get him slept by Itauma.
>>157530728Not go for the KO? If Itauma just paced himself he would have won the decision easily but he felt the pressure for a heem
>>157530728You realize you can't stop the other guy and slow down to win on points
>>157530722Well they were monsters of men so yeah
>>157530728>you lose from being totally gassed out and drained>You did everything right But you just pointed out one thing he did horribly wrong. It's called pacing yourself, and Itauma didn't have the experience to know to how to pace himself in a long fight, because he had literally never been in a fight longer than six rounds. Should have had a lighter touch before going in with the Croatian bvll who has a diesel engine. Itauma was reckless with his movements. His gameplan was all wrong. He could have won on points, but decided to empty the entire tank to risky it all on a KO when he absolutely did not need to do that.
>>157530728Stamina is a huge part of being a professional boxer.They should account for that
>>157530695Again, we don’t look like him. But gg.
Watching britbongses' be rapeded'd by Slavs is me favorite pastime nowadayz : D
>>157530728Morrison did the same stupid thing against Mercer and his career was better after it since he learned to not just chase the KO. Itauma is young enough to fix flaws.
https://youtu.be/fbO0FHf2nZc?si=FWiF7Hf-_77bbYd8to watch for reference
>>157530816We’re ostrogoths actually. Be he’s probably slav plus balkan or something.
>>157530819Hrgovic landed bigger bombs on Dubois than he did Itauma. Itauma really fucked himself by gassing that hard
>>157530847100% Moses wasn't knocked out, he gasses himself out
Guys watch the replay. Itauma got hit hard in the temple, it's possible he doesn't box again.That was no leg injury at the end there.
>>157530833I wonder if there was a shot that fucked Itauma's equilibrium? some hook that grazed him on the temple maybe i dunno.Maybe he really was just that gassed.
>>157530865The leg thing sounded like a cope.The way Itauma was falling on the ropes looked like he was seriously concussed, not just limping. Hrgovic got some clean shots in there. If you're a smaller guy and you get hit with shots like that it can completely screw you up. Look at what happened to little Torrez Jr vs big Frank Sanchez. Another guy with misleading power but both him and Hrgovic hit hard and are heavy dudes.
am i crazy for thinking Moses vs AJ would be a good fight
>>157530888Moses would knock AJ out 100%
>>157530888AJ is a complete joke at this point, it's hard to call anything he's in a good fight. Itauma vs Fury is a lot more interesting. Itauma could learn something from that or maybe possibly get a lucky KO early on.
>>157530888Would put a bet on AJ to get killed desu.
>>157530888Didn't AJ almost get killed last fight by a literal who in round 1?
>box tried to pass this guy as the next undisputed after only a win against whytec'mon
You guys are retarded and dont know what a ko is, itauma never lost control of his arms or legs, body shuts down with too much lactic acid, when was he actually hit hard? Never
>>157530865>Itauma got hit hard in the temple
>>157530888it would be a good retirement fight for AJ, either he retires a winner or he passes the torch to the next generation
>>157530918>Not to be racist but I very rarely have ever seen an Argentinian that knew shit about boxing
Frank live on post fight press conferencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPwc9pDFes
>>157530918100%Moses won every round, his body gave up to exhaustion It's incredible that Hrgovic was able to take the punches from Moses.Just a hard cunt that's all it is
>>157530924That's a crusher of a shot, his face is getting reformed like wax
Maturing is realizing that Itauma is not an exceptionally hard hitter for a HW.He knocked out the ghost of Whyte and Jermaine Fatlin. Wowie. Hrgovic was never in any real danger, even the knockdown was nothing but a flash knockdown.Also Itauma was concussed as fuck by the end it wasn't just a cardio issue.Hrgovic in a rematch retires him. Itauma is a fair-weather boxer, he doesn't have the stones for the grug division that is modern day HW
>>157530935>>It's incredible that Hrgovic was able to take the punches from Moses.No it's not, Moses doesn't hit as hard as Zhang or Dubios. THAT was incredible that he sustained those. Compared to that Moses is a mosquito. That second half of the fight conditioning was a complete joke. Hrgovic has been in much tougher fights.
>>157530918his spine was jelly
>>157530948I'd fancy an Itauma vs Torrez at bridgerweight for all the belts
>>157530958Insane that you think Moses has weak punching power, he hits very hard evidently from his previous fights.I think you are taking away from Hrgovic's chin and how incredibly hard he can get hit
>>157530948He got his knockouts from great timing and speed. He kept throwing two punches instead of fast combinations. He bought into his own hype
>>157530978Torrez will get knocked out by an uppercut the way he dips all the time. He needs a lot more work
>>157530981I'm absolutely taking away from Hrgovic's chin because I just said he's been in there with harder hitting guys like Dubois and Zhang. Lil Itauma does not hit harder than big Bang Zhang. He's mostly untested picking on old men. Hrgovic had his chin tested multiple times now. Itauma is simply too small to do that kind of damage against a fresh durable guy like Hrgovic who has never been down in his career. Once again, you're the insane one if you're trying to pretend Itauma hits harder than Bang or Dubois.
Itauma vs Benavidez who wins and how
Moses probably hits as hard as Usyk but he's not strategic in approach. He should've switched to the body and feinted like Usyk would to break him down
>>157531011Beanabidez because he's the more experienced fighter
>>157531006Maybe he doesn't hit as hard as Zang or Dubois, but some of the shots Moses landed would have knocked 95% of HW boxers out coldBare in mind the stoppage against Dubois wasn't obvious and i think it was a towel throw in
>>157531011Benavidez got knocked down by David Morrell
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uFWWvKvJf64?feature=shareBruh>>157530958Hrogivc did say he was the best he fought but yeah i don't think Itauma hits like Zhang or Dubois. It was his speed that killed people. He did look like he troubled Hrgovic in there a couple of times but not too bad.
>>157531019Usyk would never peter out in the 6th round like that so that's a pretty off comparison. He did have good upper body movement like Usyk, great speed and accuracy...for three rounds whereas Usyk can sustain that for 12 rounds and still have energy leftover.
>>157531039RIP Hrgovic's son
>>157531019There was one point he kinda started to do that near the end. but he was already getting gassed so it was too late.
>>157530829Illyrian, cause he's bosnian croat.Also stop we wuzing, it's pathetic
>>157530722Don't forget, before the Fury fight, Usyk was piecing up Wlad in sparring until they sent him out.
>>157531094>Flip Hrgovic
kinda crazy how many different bodytypes there are in high level boxing/fighting some guys look like swole bodybuilding monsters while some just look like a guy that goes to the gym once a week on his free time
>>157531094Gassiev is the low hanging fruit on this list methinks
When Itauma hit Hrogivc with a flush uppercut and he didn’t do shit, him his corner should’ve known right then they’re not getting the knockout and go for the decision. But I think Hrogivc got into his head and wasn’t going to settle for anything but a KO
another L for fighters representing Englandwhen is it gonna stop
>>157531111Filip hrgowitcher
>>157531125He shouldn't have a belt desu. Cmon he lost to Wallin.
>Itauma still fighting like amateur, need to learn how to fight like a proHrgovic dropping trvkes
>>157531039why are boxing fans like this?
>>157531157WBA is the most fraudulent of the bunch, and that's saying a lot as they're all extremely fraudulent organizations (allegedley)
>>157531173Everyone loves to kick a man while he's downbut none of these keyboard warriors even know how to throw a punch themselves, let alone know how to take a punch without getting sparked out
Think i see the shot that fucked Itauma. He was clearly gassed in the 9th but he was still landing some good shots on Hrgovic. Shitty youtube footage is zoomed in so i can't see the time it was in the round.
>>157531204give us a webm lad
Hrgovic won? Holy shit
>I didn't feel his power, he need to learn how to sit on his punchesRemember Hrgovic has been in with Big Bang and Dynamite
>>157531094I completely forgot about moorat, last fight I saw was him losing to wallin, how did he get the belt?>he beat the fossilized remnants of pulevwtf lmao
over?
>>157531231Me after 5 minutes of cardio
>>157531231he looks dead
>>157531231looks like he's in serious trouble
>>157531231KWAB
>>157531250have some class will you
>>157531231Moses Itauma?More like Moses Brain Trauma Nah that's fucked up. Hope he's alright
>>157531273LOL
>>157531273WTF haha
>>157531231The fight was rigged in Hrgovic's favour. They deliberately scheduled the fight past Itauma's bedtime (he's only 21 so he sleeps early). Then he stalled the fight untill Itauma got sleepy and wins off of it. Scum tactics
>>157531273lelmoses will come back stronger against dubois tho
>>157531159ironically he has very little amateur experience too. this was very likely the first serious fight he's had in his life.
>>157531311Exactly, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Just look at Joe Joyce after Zhang!
>>157531231Wild that his body was completely destroyed after a largely mild fight. You would think it was a Dubois vs Wardley level beat down, but it wasn't even as brutal as Fury vs Usyk 1
Why are so many low IQ fans so quick to assume its just exhaustion?The head is more fragile than you think, and sometimes seemingly innocuous hits are the ones that can inflict severe damage.
>>157531323Nahhhh everyone had been hyping him up saying that he's been sparring top contendors as just a wee little boy. You can't throw in that 'actually he doesn't even have any experience' now.
>>157531311Bro if Hrgovic made him go out on a stretcher Dubois may actually kill himHrgovic isn't even a puncher
>>157531323First seriously durable top fighter definitely. Hrgovic did say Itauma is the fastest he's been in with, couldn't see punches coming and hard to hit. Still has a bright future if he works at it
>>157531347it was obviously exhaustion that let him down thoughit was a lactic acid problem like what are you even trying to say
dubois must be on roids right
>>157531231What a disaster. This motherfucker is going to die.
>>157531231just a leg injury according to Frank
>>157531231he's exausted
>>157531373if it was exhaustion he wouldn't be getting stretchered out looking like he's spent the past 6 months on the front lines at flanders>>157531381KEK what a cope
literally undefeated on the cobbles, me
>>157531373Where is your data to prove this? Saying "obviously" means nothing and is low IQ boxing fan conjecture. He left unconscious on a stretcher.
>>157531359Moses didn't lose to getting punched by Hrgovic?He lost by gassing himself out, surely any boxing fan can see this or you are just trolling
>>157531389Repeating yourself only makes you look like more of a cretin.
>>157531347Because he spent 9 rounds throwing as hard and often as possible and then had all the signs of a completely gassed fighter in the 10th: breathing hard, activity dropped off a cliff, overthrowing on every punch, footwork completely abandoned, etcWatch enough heavyweights and you'll know what a gassed guy looks like
>>157531392if you need "proof" then you obviously aren't a boxing fan mateit's obvious what happened
>>157531359ye but duboius face is not made out of brick like Hrgovic, Duboius vs. Itauma would be like two baloon men having a knife fight.
>>157531399Me when I have to be stretchered out of the gym because I'm tired
>>157531414Show me examples of other heavyweights being taken off unconscious on a stretcher because they're "exhausted"
punch stats
>>157531429Stretcherd out is for PR purposesuse your brain mate
>>157531419You're a moron, Frank. A desperate moron.
Who wins this bout?
>>157531399you make it sound like he's just resting on the stretcher thereyour body sustains more damage when its exhausted
>>157531467Watch the fight back, you will see he didn't get hit clean enough to take him out, he gasses out that's itUse your brain mate
>>157531409I'm not repeating yourself, you're coping against a reality many people can see. your special interpretation isn't it
>>157531470fuck off, isnt he still consuming food through a straw ever since AJ did him
any webms?
Moses was exhausted but Hrgovic landed a pretty hard shot on his chest and that's when Itauma started struggling to stand upright, I think that winded the fuck out of him
>>157531499>I'm not repeating yourselfRetard coperbrb, gonna go to hospital because I need a nap
https://x.com/Sourceofboxing/status/2093837097849307287He legit couldn't even stand. He is lucky Hrgovic isn't a huge puncher cause it's not like he got a Wardley style beating. I still think Hrgovic did land one good shot in the temple near the end but it's hard to see.
>>157531507It was that or a temple shot. Or Moses has been smoking too much weed with the lads and his lungs peaced out in round 9. He was pretty cooked in that interview 6 months ago.
>>157530695Man these black american boxers are so overhyped these days. All boxing channels were saying that this itauma guy was destined to be a legend and would destroy usyk kek
>>157531501I'm pretty sure AJ ended his boxing career>AustriaBased. Went to a town near Linz for a wedding 2 years ago. Had a great time
>>157531554That doesn't look good. That's not exhaustion, that's brain damage.
>>157531608Itauma isn't american, even though he has the skin color of an average american
>>157531554He can still come back but he needs to leave boxercise benWhats Rob Mccracken doing these days?
Well at least we got a Harvey vs Moses fight coming up
>>157530778And? It's not just size that matters in this sport, otherwise that half-sentient Easter Island head of a creature, Valuev, would've been the greatest boxer of them all
>>157531682Wow that looks way worse than the end of the fight would suggest
>>157531273kek
>>157530778>>157531081
>>157531631ye we used to be based, but social media and globo homo is slowly getting to us......
heavyweights only prospect got btfo by a journeyman
Any time you see a boxer that everyone's gassing up as the next big thing, and their record is just a bunch of round 2, round 3 KOs, you KNOW that guy is going to lose embarrassingly the moment he leaves the 7th roundKnowing how to win long fights is a very real skill
>>157531273Too soon
Itauma vs Kraus
>>157531793You mean the heir apparent of the heavyweight division
>>157531793Rico Verhoeven is the next big prospect.
>>157531837I mean stop plodding dosser from croatia
>>157531797Kid was carrying the weight of the entire british isles on his back. Of course he was gonna collapse under that pressure, especially with Davieson at the helm of the ship. >Oooh he's the next Mike Tyson Yeah but Mike had the same problem, that alone is a red flag. Genuinely what were they THINKING sending this kid to a 12 round fight with Hrgovic who is known to do well in the tail end of a fight. The styles were all wrong, all wrong for this. Too inexperienced, too much energy wasted early on. I don't want to compare Itauma to the BUMS like Bumlanga or even Nick Ball but the stories are similar in that they get hyped up due to early KO streaks. Second they step out of their comfort zone it's joever. I think Itauma is way better than those guys but he has the same problem as Torrez Jr. Yeah he's an athetic fast moving guy but he's a smaller heavy weight. It's hard to do damage against those big guys. Usyk makes it look easy, but he had a lot of experience before attempting to take down giants, and people doubted him every step of the way. Itauma just hadn't been through the same type of journey, mostly light touches and old chinny men up to this point.
>>157531858He literally sent Itauma out on a stretcher
The current top 10 at heavyweight according to Ring Mag UsykDubois KabayelFuryWardleyHrgovicItaumaFrank SanchezEje AjagbaGassievIs Hrgovic just a bad matchup for Itauma? Who else could do what he did to Itauma?
>>157531935>Itauma higher than Sanchez But why
Media already trying to sweep this fraudheck under the rug, they want their mystery meat poster boy so badAlways told you Itauma is a fraud
>>157531963well he did look unstoppable until just now and he did look unstoppable for the majortity of this fight aswell
>>157531935>Is Hrgovic just a bad matchup for Itauma? Who else could do what he did to Itauma?Tough to say. It's the first legitimate opponent Itauma has fought.
>>157531974Every single british commentator/soituber was hyping up Itauma so much it's ridiculous. Apparently he got a big nike deal before the fight too. Someone compared him to emma raducanu and I thought that was funny
>>157531935Fury
MOSES ITAUMA BRAIN BLEED, IN COMATOSE/BRAIN DEAD STATE PER THE BOXING SCENEhttps://www.boxingscene.com/articles/moses-itauma-left-comatose-after-filip-hrgovic-bout
>>157531935>Usyk>Furydear oh dear oh dear
>>157531889>he's an athetic fast moving guy but he's a smaller heavy weight6'4 240 lbs is not a smaller heavyweight, that's about the same size as guys like parker, kabayel and frank sanchezhe was heavier than hrgovic in their fight
>>157531976>well he did look unstoppable until just nowAgainst who?THE Shyte who had already been clobbered lord knows how many times?THEEEEEEE Jermaine Franklin who was always a complete pushover fed to THE Anthony Joshsoya? >Dempsey McKeanNever a proven heavyweight, already had lost to Hrgovic>WachJarrell Miller's leftoversAre you noticing a pattern here? Who the fuck has Itauma beat. As has been repeated a million times before, he had never been in a fight longer than six rounds. He had never actually been tested in a tough fight. Every single guy fed to him were chinny old men that were past their prime. He was not ready for a young bvll like Hrgovic who has eaten some of the heaviest shots in the division and came out the victor after it. Itauma did not look unstoppable. He very much was stoppable, which is why his corner threw in the towel. Complete nonsense
>>157531935UsykRico TheHooverDuboisHrgovicKabayelWardleyItaumaFury/JoshuaJoshua/FurySanchez
>>157531381> just a leg injury according to FrankHe wasn’t limping at all. He had massive equilibrium issues and looked like a drunk stumbling around. Probably from lack of oxygen form over exertion and fucking up his lungs smoking weed. Likely got him hooked up to oxygen and monitoring his CO2 levels
>>157531935KabayelDuboisHrgovicUsykFrank SanchezItaumaEfe AjagbaFuryGassiev
>>157532039Drop Itauma to the bottom of that list and I can go with it
will ben davision just be the new buddy mcgirt ? they did like good at first and then they became professional towel throwing machines.....
>>157532021And yet Hrgovic is a massive 6'6" and outsized him. Hrgovic has fought even bigger heavies than him with Big Bang, then you have giants like Fury, Joshua, Wilder that were above the 6'4" line. Itauma is no Parker nor Kabayel, he simply does not have that same kind of style or boxing skills. Those guys know how to preserve themselves in a long fine and do not rely on power generally speaking. Hrgovic just looked like the much larger guy and trying to knock him out when you're a smaller, unproven fighter seems like a bad idea especially if you don't even bother trying to conserve your energy to survive the fight. Genuinely, what was their game plan? It's like if caleb plant were going in trying to knock out Canelo, a guy who had never been down in his career.I also think as far as Britbucks go, Dubois is heavier, taller, and more muscly. A natural heavyweight. I still consider Itauma on the smaller, leaner side. Seems more like Usyk's size at 6'3", it was hard to imagine Itauma as 6'4" because he looked small in there.
>>157532062They will likely in tomorrows updated rankings
>>157532047>and fucking up his lungs smoking weedLol or maybe it's the fact he's never been past 6 rounds in his career. But yes blame it on the maryjewuana and not lack of experience/conditioning. Genuinely what did people expect? We've never seen him show off his stamina reserves before
>>157532092Not saying it was just the weed but it’s retarded to smoke anything when you’re an athlete in an endurance sport. Why many athletes use chew or puff cigars for a fix
>>157532092that is why he is so calm for his age..... he was just blazed 24/7
>>157532125Bro James Toney was fucking cigars and shit. It's no excuse. Itauma was just lacking experience and conditioning, simple as. I don't buy the weed excuse, but I don't agree a fighter should be smoking weed either. Those first few rounds, did he look like he was high to you? No, he was on point. His accuracy was great. His shots were tight. His timing was tight. But he's never been in a long fight against a young massive, tough as nails dude like Hrgovic. This was too early for him. There was just no way he was winning this. He needed another fight or ten to actually experience what it's like to be in a drawn out fight like this. Problem is the journeymen they were putting in front of him were too weak to handle his initial assault. Imo just too soon, he was too young. He could be straight edge and he'd still lose. Or maybe if he smoked some crack like Sweet Pea he'd have better movement.
Rewatched it. Hrgovic hurt him right here with a hard shot. When Moses fell into the ropes and started doing the chicken dance
>>157532162where are you rewatching it?
Also instead of blaming Itauma for being retarded, you need to blame his coaches and with Ben Davison, really does anything else need to be said? Stop hiring that idiot and get a real coach.
>>157532152First of all, you puff cigars. Second I’m not saying it’s an escuse but just how heimmature Moses was. Hopefully it’s a leaning experience. Gets a better trainer and takes endurance seriously and not arrogantly thinking he can knock anyone out
boxrecs opinion>Okolie>Rhiakpoo
>>157531985Didn't raducanu win a slam? Itauma hasn't even won a world title
>>157532210She won one during the Covid era so even her slam is questionable, and she was never able to recreate that success. Not saying Itauma is on that level of fraud yet, because I think he can bounce back from this assuming he's not horribly injured already
https://youtu.be/iqsGZYsPsHcIt's up.
>>157532152Everyone including /sp/ wanted to see him fight the best. And would otherwise nag that the oldguards are being protected or that Itauma is statpadding.
>>157532178I mean yea abel sanchez is famous for his high altitute training in Big Bear that produced some absolute cardio machines, and Ben Davison is famous for being the Fat Camp manager of Tyson Fury.
>>157531231what lactic acid does to a nigger
>>157532261Personally I wanted to see Itauma vs Torrez as two untested guys, but after Sanchez obliterated I guess people lost interest. Still, I think if Itauma fought Sanchez it would end much in the same way as it ended for Torrez and as it ended for Itauma tonight. Just because people want him to go and fight Usyk doesn't mean he should lol. Although maybe now that Usyk is aging he could but I still think he's too inexperienced if he's gonna gas out like this. "Be careful what you wish for" is all I can say.
he was actually looking very decent otherwise but he punched himself out like an amateur. why the fuck didnt his corner notice what he was doing? he throws 110% effort on everything including shots that do almost nothing, and then he resets while looking tired as fuckthen he tries to firefight while having absolutely nothing in the tank against someone he already knows he cant really hurtwhat a retarded amateurish way to lose a title fight
>>157532292If you gas out this early then you were never ready. Fucking Frank Warren gameplan, keep you undefeated against retards then throw you in the deepend against tough players/
>>157530728Absolute fucking retarded reasoning. If your clearly outboxing an opponent who is able to take all of your best shots and whos entire strategy is clearly meant to be banking on your inexperience in the later rounds, you absolutely have to pace yourself well. Itauma couldve won that fight so easily if he literally just chose to take a round or 2 off and stay on the backfoot to catch his breath, instead he keeps throwing non stop trying to KO him which wasnt helped by ben davidson egging him on like a fool.
>>157532640This. Look at Crawford. He tried to KO Canelo realized that wasn’t going to happen and out boxed him for a UD
>>157532245Dwyer-sama...i kneel
>>157532717absolutely grim
https://youtu.be/iqsGZYsPsHc?is=SzL27cyg0iuhgUuuITS UPTSUP
>>157532818THEHEIRAPPARENT
>>157532847>chucklesPlayer look
Anyone noticed britbros went real quiet?
>>157532946Always happens when they get exposed. Be back to Fury spamming I’m sure
>"How often have you gone 12 intense rounds in training and how confident are you in a fight that goes that distance?">Moses Itauma: "If I'm being completely honest, I don't know if I've done a 12-round spar. I might have but I wouldn't recall.">"Is there any part of you that thinks that I'd like to do 12 rounds just to see what it's like?">Itauma: "Absolutely not. There's no need to be in the ring longer than you need to be. Whether I knock Filip Hrgovic out in the 1st or the last, I'm still going to get paid the same."holy kekhttps://x.com/EverythingBoxi2/status/2093873982873153932#m
>>157532997It's like he never even watched a single Hrgovic fight. Amateurish behavior indeed
>>157532997He’s a moron and so is his team. He makes Dubois look like a genius
>>157533034Dubious stocks aging like fine wine
It’s standard to spar five rounds over the assigned rounds. Mayweather would spar 9-10 minutes straight before breaks
>>157532997well something to add to his training regime after he catches his breath
>>157533106Just feels like so many dudes these days don't have the work ethic. Who am I to criticize them, I'm lazy as fuck these days. Most be something about our modern lives, internet
>>157532997dude needs to train with that crazy naija that makes anthony yarde do 40 minutes rounds lmaoon a more serious note whether it's davison or someone else I hope he learns to pace himself and learn to fight on the backfoot, unlike AJ who kept complaining that mccracken didn't teach him defense he has the talent to fill in the gaps
>>157532997>>157532997>"Why would I need an Oxygen tank and Tent when climbing everest ? You just go up and down like the 1.3k Hills we have in Britain"
Davison needs to be banned from the sport after that one. He's a hazard to his fighters
>>157532997His team really made him believe he is the next Mike Tyson, except Mike trained his fucking ass off
>>157533206Mike had a similar problem of not being able to pace himself in long fights. Once the easy knockout streak stops he's clueless. Guy really bought into his own hype and was nothing when the Cus D'Amato trainers got booted out of the picture. Those were the only guys keeping him on track. Itauma needs a wise mentor, very few of those left in the sport. Just yes men like Davison
>>157533034>>157533061Usyk's win over Dubois might actually age very well.
>Itauma's real name is enrikoThat's so much better than Moses wtf
What time is the gypsy crusader fight?
>>157533238Itauma definitely let the hype get into his head, he's just 21, he wanted to show off and get the stoppage and Hrgovic knew it. Hrgovic and Abel Sanchez out smarted Itauma and his corner. Itauma had Hrgovic beat in every area but the long game plan.
>>157533384>>157532717really serious event
https://x.com/Sourceofboxing/status/2085153457162309817lol
>>157533836Lil itauma got streeeetched out by the Croatian BVLL
Torrez vs Itauma in a year or two is going to be sick af.
>>157533911torrez is leaving in a bodybag if it happens
>>157534027Nigga Itauma just left the ring on a fucking stretcher, we don't even know if he'll fight again
>>157533805Why is dogshit there?
>>157533494whats with race mixed zoomers and thinking wearing a silly costume is the funniest thing ever
how do croatians take punches so well
>>157534135Antemurale Christianitatis
>>157533660>>157533668Gonners won't show himself.
>>157534135More skull than brain.
Finland back to making useless commentary? Back on the filter list you go then, stubs off
>>157534179No one asked, chucklefuck.
Haha
>>157534207He's not wrong. Itauma fought "good"...until he didn't. Depleting his gas tank before the second half of the fight was the amateurish move, didn't know how to pace himself. Got experience diffed, stamina diffed
>>157534226Oh I know. Just think it’s funny not letting up even after sending his opponent off on. stretcher
>>157533494
>>157534111he will be fine, he didn't took the life altering kind of beatingand if it really was a leg injury like warren said, he should be able to recover like dubois did>>157534226it's up to the coach to watch the tapes and come up with the right gameplan desuI don't know what the fuck davison was thinking, maybe it was the flashy ko he got vs the corpse of shyte or the tko dubois managed to get that convinced him itauma could do the job
>>157534179dont bother taking it off, he lives on /sp/ for at least 3 years straight nowevery single thread every single day without fail. nothing but the most inane retarded posts on the planet.his parents would be relieved to hear a gunshot come from the basement
>>157534465Itauma sounds like a massive lazy ass whose team catered to it. “Why do extra rounds that not getting paid for” diva bullshit. Hopefully this humbles him a lot or he isn’t going to have much of a career
>>157534515How would you "know" that so intimately? Every accusation? spammy good sneedy evil?
>>157534581Order is restored.
Fatauma needs to hit the treadmill
>>157534828Yeah not a leg injury. He was all kind of fucked up from a punch right before this
>>157534828Dadaesque tank on the hap.
>>157534828That don't look like no leg injury to me.
just so you knowi voted for hrgovic ko before the fight
>>157534957Jesus christ brits are delusional
Another Ben Davidson masterclass
>>157534828white power domination. waiting for the cope. i thought he was like a 10/1 favorite too. what happened faggots?
>>157534957>>157534957I knew this was a terrible matchup for Ituama and was surprised the fight was even made. Let’s put my kiddie gloved fighter who’s never gone past 6 rounds against ab iron chin behemoth
Sources tell me Itauma is stable.Please, God.
How would Homer Simpson do against this generations heavyweight division? He was undefeated but was on his way to getting stopped by his worlds version of prime Mike Tyson
zombiebros, we won
>>157535188What’s funny is Tyson would’ve lostto Homer. He had shit stamina and was mentally case. He couldn’t knock you out within a few rounds he would start to mentally fall apart
but seriously, in 8th round i saw shades of chisora from itauma (before and after he had hrgovic in trouble), walking back to corner he winced hard, and i thought he will have a hard time after thatbu i dont remember ever seeing someone fading that much from one round to the next
Didn't lil b relentlessly slurp moses for being THE heir apparent Hgrovic isn't a world beater anyway doe, prone to taking his foot off the gas pedal and all that shi but his chin is definitely well hard considering he got up from being being banged by zhang I'm gonna put all my money on kabayel nowdubwah, sanchez, itauma, lil baby, ajagba all fizzled out
>>157535243Ackshually Tyson fought 12 rounds with bonecrusher smith, razor ruddock and tnt tucker It's a myth that he's some 6 round wonder ,hell he was even up on the score when he got kayoed by buster Douglas
>>157535243Wasn’t homer about to be knocked out by Tyson when moe saved him?
>>157535236>>157535247it was obvious by round 3 that itauma had nothing but meme bullshit. hrgovic was just walking him into trap after trap. anyone using the "he punched himself out" excuse is a retard. He just wasnt good enough. He knocked out some bums in front of idiot uk alcoholics and when it came time to fight he got the living shit beat out of him in a systematic fashion by a pro boxer.No need for stupid ass copes or cartoon anecdotes. He just got his ass beat. It'll be alright. The sun will rise tomorrow and life will go on.
>>157535273He fouled Ruddock that entire fight. When he didn’t have Cus’ guys like Rooney keeping him in check he was a mental case
Tyson Fury if he wasn’t a mental case should be the greatest HW ever. Skills, speed for a man his size, Wolverine superhero level of recovery. He infuriated me just like Lennox Lewis did. Bong fighters are all underachievers
>>157535305Ain't no lie doe its be because of dating some trick hoe like givens makin him ain't focused on all that my man mike still be the champ in people's heart
>>157535348Don’t get me wrong, Tyson is and will always be my favorite
>>157535368Why? He's the most overrated fighter to ever live.
>>157535411After Draftdodger Dogshit.
>>157535411He was entertaining as fuck. There was reason why he was so massive. Why is old ass against Paul in a rig bullshit fight on Netflix got 125 million views. That’s Super Bowl numbers
>>157535445He was entertaining but he got his ass whooped by the two great HW fighters from his own era (Lewis and Holyfield). He was a manlet.
>>157535284not coping here, i did see hrgovic hve success before that, i thuoght he won round 5 and 7, maybe 6 as well. taking damage, visibly fading too, hnds going down after throwing punchesand back in the day someone here said filip goes zombie mode when fighting, i found that funny
>>157531376It was only a matter of time considering his boxing style.
Usyk vs Hrgovic for Usyk fight career fight?
>>157535462Not denying any of that. He isn’t even a top 10 HW of All Time. But boxing died in the US when he went down. He is the last mainstream US boxer. Not even Mayweather is close
>>157534828That's a brain injury in the cerebellum. He can't control his balance and posture. His legs seem fine.
>>157532818Are Fivey aka Vin aka Vinny aka Vincent aka Finny aka Finn Diesel appears to be a Man U fan and not aware of YouTube updates
>>157535477*Final fight career.
>>157535463it was so obvious that his pressure and jabbing was disrupting everything itauma wanted to do. once itauma realized he wasn't just gonna fall over from some flashy punches you could see the panic. it was great to watch him fall to pieces in real time.
>>157535544What’s funny is Hgrovic would be the easier fight for Usyk than Wilder. Wilder still got one punch KO power. Hgrovic is isn’t going to out smart Usyk nor put kind of unorthodox pressure Rico did
>>157532818>>157535538>man u fanThe days of coddling the dwarf are over.
>>157535569>>157444183>>157443897>>157443862
>>157535563wilder is an idiot and that right hand is useless against someone who can actually fight. hrgovic has real moves and rhythm. wilder can't win unless the fight is rigged. usyk would obliterate him. he'd actually have to battle hrgovic and considering he's old as fuck and can't punch, i'd favor hrgovic right now. ydsab
>>157535569What’s worse is he has been ignoring us to post in /mug/ I lament
>>157535578Hrgovic is slower than Fury and takes rounds off. He would stop throwing everytime Usyk countered him and unlike Moses he knows how to pace himself. Easier UD win for Usyk. We all know Kab is actual threat to Usyk because he is a body puncher
>>157535585He will come to regret scurrying away like a rodent. Eyes are now on the cursed general.
>>157535585From the fights I've seen of Hrgovic, he has shown to be easily hittable. This would be a somewhat easy fight for Usyk if he decides to fight him. Usyk should take it and retire still on top.
>>157535659Corrected quote: >>157535578
>>157535659>>157535669
>>157530695fuck me i forgot about the bumtauma match
>>157535669Idiot. Styles makes fight and Usyk struggles against pressure fighters and body punchers. Why Usyk toughest fight was against Chisora before Rico. Both pressure fighters that didn’t let up give Usyk space
>gets AJ beat up and destroyed by Dubois, effectively ending his career at a high level >gets Wardley beat up and destroyed by Dubois, potentially ending his career at a high level >gets Pat McCormack knocked out by massive underdog Conah Walker >get Moses Itauma beat in a fight he should’ve won 9/10 times by urging him to go for the KO when he was completely gassed At this point he is more well known for causing massive upset losses for his fighters than victories. One thing I will give yanks is all their trainers are really good, like Hrgovic and Abel Sanchez who cornered and coached him perfectly. That’s the reason Tyson Fury dropped Ben after one fight and went to Sugar Hill.
>>157535284Bit of a trvke, although I also think there is truth in that Itauma was horribly unprepared to go the full 12 rounds against a guy like Hrgovic. Yes, Hrgovic led him into many traps. Yes, Hrgovic was allowing him to tire himself out early on. This was also a problem of strategy on Itauma's part. Remember a boxer is not expected to go in there alone. A coach is there to give them guidance and help devise a strategy, and I feel Ben Davison failed in that regard as well. All that aside, Hrgovic may come off as an oaf but he's more cunning than he looks. All of that was intentional, Itauma took the bait, and he couldn't handle the returning fire. But he very much did gas out, and for heavyweights it remains a common issue for them to not have the stamina reserves to weather long fights. As many have said Itauma could have preserved himself, but he emptied the tank chasing after a knockdown that wasn't gonna come. I believe that was Hrgovic's intention from the beginning. If you want to compare hand speed and accuracy, Itauma had him beat. But it wasn't sustainable in the long run. Usyk is one of the few boxers at heavy that can actually sustain that kind of movement and volume at heavy, or at least he used to be. I don't think he can anymore.
>>157535772>Moses Itauma vs hrgovic>a fight he should’ve won 9/10 times
>>157535798Hrgovic literally won on bone density and cardio he didn’t land anything and if you think he did I implore you to screencap it and send it. Moses the pothead was about to die of a heart attack, one of the weirdest ways to lose at a high level in the sport.
>>157535800Well yeah he was winning every round easily until his heart was about to explode
>>157535798>Usyk is one of the few boxers at heavy that can actually sustain that kind of movement and volume at heavyTo add to that, Usyk CONDITIONS for that kind of high volume, high movement fight to go to the 12 rounds, so he'd often train for 15 rounds or longer. Itauma on the other hand mentioned in interviews that he wasn't worried about that, wasn't planning for the fight to go the distance, wasn't worried about Hrgovic's chin and so on. Once again the guy has literally never fought longer than a six round fight. Should have been a huge red flag for everyone involved. >>157535804I've heard a lot of bizarre copes but heart attack in the ring after getting clobbered in the face is a new one. You can see the contours of Itauma's face being molded in real time here >>157530924
>>157535816That shot didn’t do shit though and probably wasnt even in the last round. You can watch it for yourself Hrgovic didn’t land shit. https://youtu.be/bZiVL_7jnAU
>>157535823I did watch the fight and I implore you to watch it back in slow motion. Itauma got hit clean multiple times but maybe you ought to pull the cock out of your mouth first to get a proper look
FACT: Moses Itauma hit puberty too early and his heart and lungs haven’t grown properly to support his giant body
>>157535830It’s not even a cope I like Hrgovic more than Itauma and I’m happy for him but if you’re acting like that was some sort of “beat down” then you’re just making shit up to clown on him. Show me the punch and sequence that finished him then. No one benefits from making shit up.
>>157535840Are you genuinely retarded? The sequence that ended the fight obviously. Itauma emptied the tank because he thought he could win, he had no reserves, and Hrgovic finished him off. Blame it on whatever you want. The dumbass kid played himself. And then got rolled out of the ring on a fucking stretcher. He got stretched out, that's literally the meaning 'stretched out' to be carried out on a stretcher. What more is there to say? Oh yes it's Hrgovic who didn't win. Itauma forfeited galliantly by being unable to stand after bravely tiring himself out, what good sport
>>157530695Where can I watch the Itauma Hrgovic fight for free where the camera isn't zoomed in on their body hairs? I only know about allthebestfights but it's unwatchable with how zoomed in it is
Moses Itauma was astroturfed. The first HW contender he faced he lost to.
I think he started to faint because of the lack of oxygen in his brain from over-exhaustion and related drop of blood pressure.
>>157535860No I’m not and retards are trying to act like Hrgovic won this due to skill and not his abnormal chin and good conditioning plus Itauma’s inexperience and bad coaching. This is a self KO more than a Hrgovic KO. He was on the verge of a heart attack or something. Literally won by Homer Simpson strats.
>>157535876If true he would have recovered within minutes. He got carried out on a stretcher bc there was something wrong with him.
None of this shit landed btw. Self KO and that is a fact.
>>157535899Footballers die from heart attacks. Itauma was doing the equivalent of non stop sprinting while also being walked down by a much bigger man which is already tiring. You’re really trying to sell the idea that Hrgovic outboxed him but Moses was winning every round.
>muttboy lostanother kike trick fizzled outlove to see it
>>157530865This. Itauma took severe punishment to the temple. While Itauma was busy trying to crack Filip's chin for a KO highlight, the cold-blooded Hrgovic was trying to kill Itauma from the start. Itauma's temple was very exposed throughout the fight due to his aggressive "roll the dice" boxing style.
>>157535906When did I say that Hrgovic outboxed him? I'm saying he got carried out on a stretcher bc he was hurt not just fatigued.
>>157535939Yes hurt from fatigue and pure exhaustion not from punches. Hrgovic did not land anything to cause that. Sorry but I don’t live in make believe world where Hrgovic supposedly landed some devastating punches because he simply didn’t. You could see Moses wincing even when Hrgovic wasnt punching his heart was about to burst.
Another thing to keep in mind for yanks. What you just witnessed was real boxing. 2 men going to war wearing their hearts on their sleeves and fighting with pure intent to kill. I have no doubt if a yank was in the ring last night they would have died from pure fright. Yank “boxing” is tel aviv tap dancing compared to what we just witnessed. Stay. In. Your. Lane.
HUGE. Ball is BACK.
Honestly just a shocking time to be a lanky mulattoThey can't stop taking L's!
>>157535284lmaonot really, they were trying to bait each other into a trap a lot, itaumas lack of experience showed, put he set up some nice traps along the way, altho he'd be a bit hesitant to go in for the kill at the right times.the actual game plan was mostly great, he got his rhythm down perfectly, countered nicely, but pacing was terrible and he overcommited on failing shots, leading to exhaustion. i assume both his "no long sparring" and him wanting to prove he is not a kid and get the KO got to him. the thing is hrgovic has a granite chin, but he also drops his defense after a combo goes on longer than 3-4 punches, yet itauma was constantly going for that 3rd/4th power shot, which he'd fail and throw himself out. but the loss was mostly due to being gassed.if in any case it was concussion or liver shot, then holy shit itauma really has the grits to go into wars, not many try to fight in that state and bigger men have fallen to these. but it wasnt, it was just the gas tank.but i mean, who knows, maybe you, random guy on 4chan, know better than the rest of the world that was watching, even Filip himself who was in the ring and said he got beat and lost every round until itauma gassed.
>>157534828Man, it must be kinda scary though to throw fucking everything you have at a man for several minutes, but he just won't go down and now you're getting tired. Not that Hrgovic is a scary man, just that he just keeps on going. By that last round he really did make Itauma look like a kid fighting a man
Fivey hasn’t responded yet still sleeping the gremlin
>>157534828i like how you can see his coach with the towel ready kino
>>157536389this doesnt make sensewhy isnt he taking any punishment?
>>157535870https://vkvideo.ru/ @blognokaut
>>157536394Cuz Homer Simpson (the funny looking yellow guy) is portrayed as being thick headed and can absorb punchesEventually he got matched up with a guy whose an actual boxing champ and he got severely beaten lmao!Funny series, I think you can find this animated show on some streaming platform my friend
>>157536440i use this https://fullfightreplays.com/
this was a fun humbling, but bittersweet, because we really need AJ/Fury/Usyk/WIlder to fuck off and let the new generation come through. Itauma was the only one who looked to have something about him.
>>157536447IM MORE of a Family Guy kind of guy
>>157535900two liver punches at 05 and 07
>>157535874This.Brits were desperate to replace aging AJ/Fury with Itauma and pushed him too soon. The smart thing to do would have been to gain more experience for 1-2 years against guys in the top 20-10 like Torrez or Vianello, yet they made him rank 1 without any wins against other top 10 boxers.Weren't there talks of Pulev vs Itauma when Pulev still had the belt? Itauma could have beaten another old guy and larp as the champ. Then Gassiev beat Pulev instead and they picked Hrgovic because of the McKean fight.
>>157531793Hrgo wasn't a journeyman, he's been rated in the top 10 for years
>>157536510https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLxIYe3TtPU
Moses was winning every round. This is all on Ben Davison the worst coach in boxing history and that is a fact. Guy is literally substitute PE teacher level.
>>157536550so, you got my money yet?
>>157536576are you still with the munter you posted here? how is her ibs
>>157535891pacing yourself over 12 rounds is a skill too
yesterday's score card do yo u gree?
>>157536714
>>157530888Moses would destroy current AJ, who has no chin and would never survive past the first rounds
>>157536554TRVKE
>>157535772Dont forget how he ruined Josh Taylor and couldnt stop him from becoming an alcoholic again. Hes a disgrace of a trainer.
Vincent van Fivey the Terror of Cork
Joshua VS Itauma when? Idgaf about Fury fight
zhang should have a comeback fight with itauma
>>157530778im still mad they didn't gave Vitali a chance to unify the belts, his brother was overhyped
>>157535900Wtf happened to him ? Never seen a fighter so off his feet like this for quite a period of time. It can't have just been exhaustion. Brain damaged?
>>157536821billed as "the king of no gas tank"
>>157535772Also trained Fury for some of his worst fights. This guy fucking sucks.
>>157536830>have no real amateur background, just some European youth tournaments>crush 13 cans>never go past 6 rounds in your life>never even spar 12 roundsthe idiot tried to sprint a marathon
>>157535840His corner threw in the towel because he got a little winded?
>>157536830Exhaustion can lead to suppression of oxygen in the brain and then you start fainting. this would explain his spaghetti wobbling. Normally you would recover in couple minutes, but his body was already over-strained, so they moved him to a hospital as precaution.
>>157536861the same coach that let dubois gore wardley btw
>>157532997>>>"Is there any part of you that thinks that I'd like to do 12 rounds just to see what it's like?">>Itauma: "Absolutely not.in a situation like this do you blame the coach or the fighter? For me I'm blaming the coachhe should not let his fighters be this retarded
Was it an unfortunate matchup for Itauma?Would any other heavyweight champ/contender be able to take the shots Hrgovic did? I'm a casual boxing fan, but I've heard his chin is unusually solid. Didn't know how much to believe that until now
>>157536947technically, every match where one loses is an unfortunate matchup for the loser
>>157536947Caveat is that more technical fighters would not get hit as much as Hrgovic did
>>157536947Hrgovic is a tough man but has a history of laziness and underperformance, so I can see why it was worth the gamble. They didn't bank on him really being up for it.
>>157536821Itauma's gas tunk unironically looked worse than Zhang's here. At least Zhang can still stand after 12 rounds. Itauma was struggling to stay standing in the 9th round and had to get taken off with a stretcher.
>>157536947Hrgo has one of the best chins in heavyweight right now. Maybe the bestBut other guys wouldn't have gotten hit as much probably. If you're falling over from exhaustion by round 9, you have some serious improvements to make in training before stepping up to championship level again
>>157537126Hrgo came in at a lower weight than usual and Itauma Isn't a particularly big heavy
>>157535964Lies.he landed some critical shots that staggered him
>No shots landed You guys are stupid.
>>157536967best post when discussing useless shit like this
Bros i caught up a bit and just saw the Joshua fight ..I think boxing is over. Like where do we even go from here?
Why do people think Itauma would have won if he paced himself better. You can't assume that he would dominate the early rounds in the same way, and then cruise himself to a decision with for the remainder of the rounds, if he paces himself. Him going for a decision win is unproven, just like his gas tank and the main reason why he looks good, is because of his high pace. Especially when you consider that he "only" dominated 8 rounds, which is just 1 round more than the minimum 7 for a decision win. And even towards the end of the 8th round he already barely struggling to stand.It's basically like how Fury looked good in the early rounds in his first fight against Usyk, but got tired and hurt in the latter rounds and then lost a close split decision. Many claimed that he could win the rematch if he paced himself better, which he did so. But that ended up in a more dominant unanimous decision win for Usyk, despite Fury ending the fight less tired and hurt, compared to the first fight. >>157537218It's a stupid argument anyway, since he would have gotten knocked out if the fight didn't get stopped. He resigned the moment, the moment he started facing adversity and the opponent started turning things around. Itauma would've basically gotten Deontay Wilder'd, if his team didn't throw in the towel and stop the fight early. The score of the fight is irrelevant if you can't make it past 12 rounds.
>Tony Mundine dedhe was truly one of the good ones ;_;F
>>157537396>Why do people think Itauma would have won if he paced himself better.Hrgovic would have gotten robbed on points 100% if it went to decision, no matter who won how many roundsbut yeah, there is no guarantee Itauma would have survived 12 rounds when he was already dropping from exhaustion by round 9. maybe his conditioning and training just wasn't good enough
>>157537508>>157537518it's crazy to see Itauma's face beaten to a pulp and grimacing in pain when he's so stoic and unflinching 99% of the timedoesn't even look like the same person
More like Intrauma lolShit fight
>>157537396Let's be honest about Hrgovic's performance, he fought like shit. He was out boxed, out slugged, out worked, in every round except round 3 or 4 where he slowed down a bit. It wasn't even competitive, this isn't like Chavez extracting from Taylor until he landed the final shot in the 12th. Itauma countered everything Hrgovic had, even Hrgovic admitted he was so fast he couldn't see the punches or land on the other guy. If Itauma just slowed down he would've cruised to an easy victory. A bizarre way to lose.
>>157537696Makes me wonder if Itauma will be able to fix this weakness. Maybe he needs to change trainers
>>157531745>half-Nigerian half-Slovak gypsy>born in Slovakia>britcucktry again
>>157536544They thought Hrgovic was the "old guy tune up fight".
>>157537739Get up and do road work, and yeah this is on Ben. If you are his trainer, you should know the conditioning of your fighter. Ben also let Wardley almost get killed in the ring against Dubois and now Itauma with with Hrgovic. Very low IQ corner gameplan wise
>>157537696Hrgovics just got lucky. That one punch popped a brain vessel or something. I think Itauma might be retarded for life. Good for Hrgovics I guess.
>>157537813I'm waiting to hear from Itauma's team what happened at the end. From replay Hrgovic did land a left hook, didn't look hard though. If Itauma really almost killed himself from throwing too much while ahead on every round then he's the dumbest fighter of all time
>>157537813he got lucky that Itauma's conditioning and gameplan was terrible and that he had no plan for what to do if he can't get the KO
>>157537696you can only work with what you’ve got. he’s never going to be faster than Moses. he and his team explicitly said that their plan was to take him into deep waters. as early as round 3 he was landing enough to keep Moses working, moving around and expending energy. It wasn’t a guaranteed path to victory but it was his only path.
>>157537696Spiritual W for Moses
>Itauma: I don't know why you've been praised to have a good chin. That's not something you should be praised for. I get so much hate with people saying I haven't been hit on the chin, isn't that a good thing?>Hrgovic: Chin is most important thin in boxing man. Without good chin you can't be great.>Itauma: If you don't get hit?>Hrgovic: Oh you'll get hit at some point. You must get hit sometimes and if you don't have chin you can't be great.>Itauma: I'll hit you before you hit me, we'll see.>Hrgovic: Okay, so what if I don't react?>Itauma: That's fine, we'll see.Oh man, that is absolutely delicious in retrospect.
>>157537739there’s a danger that if he isn’t throwing at 100% from all angles and slows down the pace, he loses his greatest asset and becomes ordinary. he also doesn’t have the size to jab and grab like Wlad.
>>157537696How the fuck do you people keep coping like this? Gas tank is important It doesnt matter if you look super good in the early rounds if its costing you that much. Itauma looked shot to shit because the punches Hrgovich did land were towards the end of rounds when Itauma was naturally more tired. Those punches are the ones that hurt the most. Itauma was visibly in pain. Hrgovish knew he wasnt gonna match Itauma for speed and counter punching. So he bid his time and waited for Itauma to empty his gas tank so that he could land a few powerful shots that hurt Itaumas structure. Itauma could barely walk you think he was juat tired? He was obviously hurt. Hrgovich hurt him far more severely than Itauma hurt Hrgovich. But if you think boxing is used on highlight moments and not full rounds, like a complete tourist, then yeah, Itauma looked better than Hrgovich every moment but the moments that mattered. It doesnt matter how good you can box if you cant last the whole fight. Anyone can be dangerous in 30 seconds. It would be stupid for Hrgovich to try and do more agaisnt a younger, sharper opponent. He just did barely enough to keep Itauma busy while he was eating shots. Its a risky strategy that ultimately paid off big time. Saying Hrgovich just "got lucky" because he e plated a massive weakness in his opponents style is a massive, blatant cope. Conditioning wins fights more than mere boxing ability and hand speed does.
>>157538072typical black cope
>>157537022Lil Vinnie is taking the piss now.
>>157538072You don't know shit about boxing, listen to what Hrgovic said post fight. Hrgovic performed much better against Dubois, landing bombs early on.
>>157538030to be fair though Itauma didn't lose because of lack of chinhe took a lot of punishmenthe got out gas tank'd by a Slavoid
>>157538030all of Hrgovic's interviews and mindgames before the fight were great. I wonder if it had some effect in the ring with Itauma losing his cool and overexerting more than he normally would
>>157538030lmfaoultimate self jynx
Rarely got time to watch some box as of late so answer me this.Is Usyk absolutely done?When is the next Alibaba sponsored super fight?Did Fury finally kill himself?
>>157538277the first interview i see between them on yt and first thing i see of hrgovic speaking is him saying "i am not smart enough to play these mind games i just say what i think"or was this a mindgame too?
>>157538175>You don't know shit about boxingSure I dont. Thats why Itauma had to leave on a stretcher. Thats why he looked like he had been drugged going into the 9th. Hrgovich looked good against Dubois for 6 rounds. So what? He needs to look good for 12 or he needs to knock him out. You dont win fights by looking good before you get stopped you retard. Landing punches when your opponent has a full talk isnt as damaging as landing punches while his tank is empty. I thought this was common knowledge agaisnt boxing "fans" but I guess when youre emotionally invested in one fighter instead of the fight itself ou need to cope when it doesnt go your way. Having a preferred fighter is OK but this excuse making is pathetic. It would have been luck if Hrgovich landed a hail Mary overhand he wasnt even looking at and KOd Itauma then and there. But this wasnt luck, this was gameplan, you could hear Hrgovichs corner telling him to be patient and to wait for Itauma to fade and thats exactly what he did. It couldnt have worked better actually. Oh Hrgovich looked like shit going 50% agaisnt a younger, faster opponent going at 120%. Yeah no shit. Itauma looked far worse at the end than Hrgovich did the entire fight. Why the double standard, becaue you wanted Itauma to win, so whenever it doesnt go your way the excuses start coming.
>>157538360usyk is fighting rico rematch and retiring. theres no chance he takes another risky fighthe basically disgraced boxing with the fight, he looked like he had the flu or something and rico was arguably winning before the bullshit stoppage
>>157538175And hrgo gassed out extremely early in that fight because of that and proceded to get fucked up at the end of rounds by dubois. If you cant knock the cunt in front of you out dont blow your gas tank out for no reason.
>>157538456he definitely got under Itauma's skin, that's why Itauma pushed him
>>157538264he lost because he wasn't expecting Hrgovic to be able to tank all that punishment with his chin and come back like nothing happened
in many ways moses stopped himself so technically he won by ko
>>157538360>Is Usyk absolutely done?yes, he gave away his belts and will retire after one or two gimmick fights>When is the next Alibaba sponsored super fight?I guess Cryan Garcia vs Conor Benn on september 12 is a big fight media-wise>Did Fury finally kill himself?no, he's still kicking though much like Usyk probably not planning to be a serious contender for the belts anymore
Lardtauma vs Bakole
>>157538645okay i didn't think of it that way
>>157538736Given Bumkole got knocked out by Parker, I think Itauma takes it
>>157538360Usyk is done, Fury vs AJ is the next mega fight I suppose
>>157538476I'm not invested in Itauma or the heir apparent, I'm telling you that Hrgovic himself admitted he was getting out boxed until the holy spirit came into him in the 9th. This wasn't Ali's rope a dope. Unless you're telling me Hrgovic's plan was to directly call Jesus to help him in the 9th, he looked bad all fight. There are much better ways to try to tire your opponent than getting beat to the punch in every exchange.
Itauma needs to get into better shape no way you should be this cubby as an 21 Athlete, I dont say he has to get ripped or anything but no way he should weigh more than herg, dide needs like 6 months of conditioning Training
>>157538516Vincent. Van. Short.
At least with Itauma loss all meta discussions are over and everyone can ride into sunset happily
>>157538878He needs to come to America if he wants to learn how to not gas out as a fatty
>>157538931I love lithuania girls. So tall.
>>157538878plenty of fat heavyweights can box for 12 rounds easily, because they aren't trying to do Lomachenkle matrix shit
Ben Davison fucked the careers of not one, but two of the most exciting prospects in heavyweight boxing back to back. There must be other coaches in the UK, pull in Eubank or some other retired fighter
I know all anyone wants to talk about is chin but also Hrgovic was just in great shape last night too. That fight was at a really high pace, hrgovic ate some real nasty body punches, and he still had gas in the tank when he needed it in the late rounds. Don't know this for sure but I assume Hrgovic was in Big Bear when he was training with Abel Sanchez.
Another British hypejob lmaoBrits only succeed through cheating
>>157539175Itauma isnt even British he’s a mutt like you lil mongrel ass bitch
>>157533660>>157533668Gonners the little hall monitor freak reporting another innocent /box/ poster and further ruining this place.They’re calling it the Gonners curse folks!https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/157480806/#q157524781They’re also saying his posts trace from Bombay and he ducked half of /box/!
>>157539448It's honestly not funny. What is though is Fivey's channel.
>>157539502I can't really see it but it almost looks like an elbow
>>157539530whats fivey's channel?
>>157535560>>157539581Scroll up mate.
>>157537764How has he ended up being "British"? Mum dinghied it here when he was a kid?
>>157539804Supposedly slovaks were racist towards them, idk if that's an actual big reason but Itauma mentioned it
>>157539634its a bit dead, no vids
>>157538923In this moment, Moses "Microphone" Itauma knew he fucked up
>>157539884>>157539804Probably just a marketing thing, get him to do that braindead sounding london nigger accent and try to keep the "my namea moses! I LIKE" thing to a minimum. The British fans were always gonna accept him if he was winning though.
>>157536789Exactly, he has no notable wins as a coach and has fumbled every big moment >>157536861This is literally what Ben Davison is known for, he’s always in the corner ready to jump in with the towel. Guy has no faith in his fighters and is just there to glaze them every day. You can tell he’s a shit coach because any decent coach would have told Itauma to pace himself or take a knee if he’s really that fucked like Dubois does. Good coaches like Don Charles shit talk you to keep your ego in check, Moses had too much pride to even take a knee and that’s because his shitty PE teacher chav coach doesn’t keep him in check.
It’s hard to even explain how shit Ben Davison is. Guy is training some of the best fighters in the world and has zero right to do so other than maybe a sports science qualification which doesn’t count for shit in fighting. He’s no Cus D’amato more like Cus Retardo.
>>157539804Because we ended up the global home of refugees instead of embracing white nationalism
I've seen enough. Feed Itauma to Dave Allen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vcibx-GusCheck it out!
It seems like bucks always have one massive glaring flaw. Moses - Stamina Dubois - IQ Joyce - speedAJ - chin
>>157539884In 00s it was expected in eastern europe. You still had literal gangsters and street thugs everywhere as a normal members of society. If you get robbed or bullied they will make any reason for it.
