London: Arsenal and Chelsea Madrid: Real Madrid Rome: Roma France: PSGBerlin: ???
Communism
Bfc dynamo is very iconic
>>157804591Because it's a shithole, even more than Paris and London
people from berlin are very bad with money
>>157804591Roma are not as iconic as you think, and PSG was created in the 70s and relatively irrelevant for a while after that. They are successful, but you could debate about them being iconic. Roma is not super successful eitherBut yes, Berlin does underperform. There is no real answer to why, but a few things can be named as candidates First, France and England are very centralized, the agglomerations of Paris and London are very dominant. Germany is very federal and Berlin is not as large as Paris and London, so the chance of at least one big club emerging there was higherThe other thing is that Berlin got royally fucked after WW2. It had been destroyed, it was a bad place for investments, it wasn’t even the capital, and it was brutally divided into two partsPart of the answer also is that Berlin used to have many fairly okay clubs, and it took a while for a real hierarchy to emerge. By that time, other clubs with bigger reach had already taken the lead nationallyAnd then, we have to be real: Hertha BSC are famously chaotic and incompetent, they used to be quite arrogant because of their „potential“ and capital status. Many people assumed they would become a powerhouse after 1990, but they were too cocky. Union Berlin on the other hand, as the representative of the East, had a lot of ground to make upStill, Hertha does belong in the Bundesliga at least … though it’s not impressive, yeah
germany has no culture
>>157804591Lol I knew the others but I thought Milan was the capital of Italy. I need to learn some geography.
>>157804867Excuse you, being autistic and insufferable and racist and anti-racist and hypocritical and schizophrenic all at once is high culture, you dumpster-diving Paki rapist
>>157804901But you have heard of Rome, right?Not knowing Paris and London would have been too much, though
>>157804938Yeah. I am good at flags but not geography. I probably know what every flag in Europe looks like but if you were to ask me where there in the map I would be able to tell you aside from the obvious ones like Italy, UK, France, Spain, and Portugal.
>>157804591cause it was divided into two parts up until 30 some years ago, also they don't care about football at all, also mentioning PSG is a joke, also no one would ever care about Roma if Totti didn't play there
>>157805016*would not be able to tell you
>>157804591European football has its roots on industrial towns. Capital clubs are thus either artificial (Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG) or irrelevant in Europe
Just go to Berlin once. You will see
>>157804901You are probably the first person in the history of the world to think that
>>157804591Why are the Ottawa Senators and Washington Commies both jokes?
Things could have turned out differently1) without WW2 and the division of Berlin2) if Berlin clubs, or at least the ones from western Berlin, could have agreed on some sort of fusion. After WW2, for example. Without it, Berlin remained a battleground for 10 mid-tier clubs while others dominated larger areas and got ahead. For example, a few Cologne clubs seized the moment and merged after the war - without it, not one of them would have amounted to anything on the national stage
>>157804591Berlin is an administrative capital like Brasilia, Bern, Canberra, Sucre. Munich is the real big city.
>>157804591>Rome: RomaLmao>PSGWe all know why
>>157804591They had
>>157810165Their glory does not fade. They are in the 4th tier, but everyone knows they are Berlin‘s true representative
>>157804591>PSG>iconicPick onebefore oil money came in 2012 they had as many league titles as Sochauxthe only thing that is iconic about them is Dinho playing for them, that's it.
>>157811994What about Raí?
>>157804591Berlin is just Temu's France
>>157804901good morning saar
>>157804922got his limey ass
>>157810126Not true at all
>>157804591German football culture is primarily centred around the Ruhrpott. Berlin never much cared for the sport.
>>157804591Are Hertha and Union a joke to you, saaar?
>>157811994TRVTHNVKE
>>157804591Berlin wasn't even the capital of West Germany, and most of the former East Germany clubs aren't doing too hot currently barring notable exceptions. A better question is why none of the Bonn clubs ever made it big.
>>157831206Bonn is a fairly small suburb of Cologne that grew a lot after having been made capital. It still isn’t huge. It was made capital because it was comfy for Adenauer, who lived nearby. And because it was supposed to be an obviously temporary solutionThe people in Bonn are usually fans of FC Köln
Love threads about Germany because they are always the most informative threads on /sp/
>>157804607the eastern bloc teams (both club and national) were better under communism thoughbeit
>>157831206>none of the Bonn clubs ever made it big.Bonn is a suburb of Cologne and beside hosting the temporary capital of west germany status totally irrelevant (that was also a huge factor to hand it to them). It's also important that germany was always very federal compared to France or England that are super central (everything is Paris and London) so the capital has pretty much no meaning in germany beside some dick waving contest (the reason it couldn't be Munich, Hamburg, Cologne or even Stuttgart)
Look at the 2 biggest global football stars from the past 20 years:Ronaldo:Played in England, Spain, and ItalyMessi:Played in Spain and France Neither of them played in Germany The Bundesliga has never been a popular league for the big players to go to. Berlin in particular is not a city that any wealthy football superstar would want to live in. London, Paris, Rome (and to some extent Madrid) all have way more things to do if you’re super wealthy.Checkpoint Charlie and that weird gate thing that they have is about as much culture as you’re going to get in Berlin.
>>157833237>big stars move to London etc. because of the cultureYeah, tell them about the latest art gallery and they’re all sold. And people in Berlin have yet to discover the concept of paintings
>>157833237Lothar Matthaus, the coaching legend of Partizan Belgrade, was a global star in the 90's
>>157804591https://youtu.be/yVcDzTj_1vA
>>157832651So it seems.
>>157804901This nigga tweakin.
Berlin was deliberately founded in a sparse, backwater area by the Prussians
>>157833237lmao
>>157804591https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG1LCOxAaoA
>>157804591they don't do that in germany.
>>157804591>BerlinWell, let's just say, that >Berlin is >Berlin.(Drecksloch ~= shithole)
>>157832721>the eastern bloc teams (both club and national) were better under communism thoughbeitright, thats the reason west germany was wc champion and euro champion twice and the commiefags never made it in the final of either.
>>157858520Berlin is based af
>>157858864If you are actually thinking that, you are beyond help.
>>157804633Nah that's a stretch
>>157858864Based.
>>157830931Union are kind of iconic on a small scale, they have a pretty clear-cut identity at least. But they are rather small despite their recent streak of success (recent meaning „last years together“, not last weeks)Hertha is just retarded, a waste of potential. Their identity used to be acting like they are hot shit, now they stopped and no one knows what they do besides being chaotic. And they have dwarfed themselves sportively. At least their current team seems to be a surprise hit
>>157859195but that just proves how good we have it hereabsurd nonsense like this could only be the result of decades of complacency due to the comfortable life the city offers. naturally it’s all going to crash and burn eventually but if you’re off well enough it likely won’t affect you in your lifetime
>>157810165thisthe iconic Berlin team got decimated
>>157833237Gotta disagree, if you're a young footballer and play in Berlin it's gotta be peak with the cultural and artistic scene there, you probably get to fuck a lot of art hoes
>>157804922you forgot unfunny, but I guess you already exemplified that with your post
>>157833237footballers don’t, aside from very few notable exceptions, care about culture you mong
>>157832721
>>157811994> Club created in the 70's has less titles than clubs created in 1930No way people like you are really that dumb, it's gotta be bait
C*mmunists wrecked eastern Germany so badly that they still haven’t recovered.
