I have no idea of torrents but this is something that sounded off to me:Do you goverments agencies really spy on people torrenting, like who gives a fuck if someone downloads "Naruto Shippuden (001-500) [Complete Series + Movies (1080p)] (D" without a VPN right? Or is it all an honeypot? Am i fucked the moment i download something without VPN?
>>1273827OH NOES!Seems you have fucked zoomie... Now your ISP will proceed to send you a strongly worded letter and if you ignore the wagie bolice will kick in your front door!
>>1273827Depends on the country
>>1273827You need to understand that piracy is a crime and you'll always be at risk. I recommend you to pay for whatever you consume to support the creators.
>>1273827I have never used a VPN in my life.
How old are you?
>>1273827The government doesn't give a shit about anything you're torrenting unless it's terrorist manifestos or something like that. It's companies that're gonna do shit, and it's up to each individual company what they do, but there's a simple rule: the richer the company, the more likely they are to track and act.How will they act?By sending a letter to your ISP politely asking them to send you a letter asking you to stop. ISPs can't afford to shut off service to someone everytime a dude pirates something; they'd lose millions of dollars a week in lost customers. With the sheer volume of people pirating shit, it would take "storming the US mainland" levels of stupidity for any company to attempt legal action against individuals.On top of that, the US by and large has not once given a single shit about pirating anime. Never.So, you're at higher risk of emotional damage by thinking about it than you are of actual risk from a company or agency approaching you for it. Even then, if you're still worried, spend a week to make a list of eveything you wanna download, send $5 to MullvadVPN, then torrent it all.
>>1273827So basically there's something called quota for law enforcement agencies. When the need to fill some quota or for PR reason, having a list of offenders ready to arrest is very convenient.
>>1274031How do they know though?
government agencies don't fucking care, as much as they'd like you to believe. i've been torrenting for like 2 years, most of the time without a VPN, and live in the fucking UK. Absolutely no harm. except maybe a strongly worded letter from your ISP, I've heard this happens if you torrent something new like some new capeshit. however if you distribute torrents, you're much more likely to take risks. so i'd be careful of that.
>>1273827Guy from germany here.My father was into movie and music piracy in the early 2000's, never used a vpn. I downloaded probably 1tb+ of games in the early 2010's, also never had any problems. I think even today there will be no problems except if you download the newest most seeded stuff like some marvel or disnay movies, but desu then you deserve it.In the last few years I am more into movie piracy and use mullvad vpn. It's also very good for privacy in general since your ISP can't spy on your traffic. If you just download like one or two old games or movies and don't seed after downloading, you will be fine in 99,9%. But I would suggest strongly to use a vpn in general.
Assuming you're American, they're more likely to fuck with you over an American IP.I've never used a VPN, though I ought to eventually.I've downloaded TBs of anime, and they sleep.I torrented the Evil Dead HBO series when it was new, and got a letter from the phone company.The older and the less lucrative the show, the safer you are.Want to get Hexen(1922) for next Halloween? You ought to be fine, even with the more recent version.Want to get the latest Disney slop? Better not seed it without a VPN.Want to file away your favorite childhood cartoon that still holds up? Roll of the dice.
You'll be completely fine! (Seriously.)
>>1273827Not *government agencies*. If they watch anything it's, like, honeypot cp torrents. People paid by big entertainment companies watch the regular stuff and complain to ISPs to deter pirates. If you live in a country that doesn't laugh at those and steal something an entertainment giant wouldn't want you stealing, you want a VPN.
>>1275370Haxan is in the public domain now so you don't need to worry about it at all.
Yes it doesn't matter where you are it doesn't matter who you are or what you're doing, a minimum of 5 intelligence agencies have access to your data, the level of surveillance, ie the level of human intervention and observation is dependent on how many red flags your data is waving. If you're lucky, and you plow through red flags one after another you will reach high enough on the lists that you'll be personally monitored by a real deal glowing nigger.
the US monitors literally all traffic in the US and bittorrent is easy to monitordo they actually pay attention to it? probably not
Its the haystack effect. You are safely burrier.
>>1277415>do they actually pay attention to it? probably notthe picture are the delisting requests of only one company which owns some big known networks.in some regions/some countries the anti piracy side can make money out of you catching you torrenting, so maybe it would be a good idea to think and then execute.
>>1275370>The older and the less lucrative the show, the safer you are.As I understand it, anyone can see your IP when torrenting. Big corporations like Disney keep tabs on their latest movies. Practically speaking no one will care if you download anime, whereas your IP will probably send you a nastygram for getting the latest Marvel movie.
>>1277733That company is not the US government
>>1273827gubberment doesn't give a fuck unless you torrent pizza, and even then they don't care about the downloader, only the distributor (same with drug busts, by the way). it's not worth their time or mkney to track and/or arrest you unless you're a massive seeder of highly illegal stuff, and even then...at risk of scaring you even more, with MLA (AI) getting better and better, some agencies are using it to automate tracking of people who look at no-no files. the CIA use it to colate already scrapped information to avoid the manual process of checking 210 million peoples billions of IP logs. basicallt you are being logged, but it's not worth their time (aka money) to figure out who you are or what you're doing. for now, anyway.>>1274069torrent traffic is all peer to peer, meaning yiu are directly connected to everyone else in the swarm for a given torrentones that are publically tracked (eg, from a website that doesn't need you to sign up) are very easy to scrape and go "hey heres all the people torrenting game of thrones", look up which ISP owns those IP addresses and send a DMCA letterthis only happens in the USA and occasionally the UK because it's the only place DMCA has real jurisdictionthe solution is1 - use a VPN, then your IP address is actually some sweedish company and can't receive a DMCA claim + no way to corelate the millions of people connected to that IP if the VPN company doesn't keep logs (eg proton, mullvad)2 - use private trackers so they can't be scrapped as easily3 - live in a first world country rather than the peoples republic of americastantl;dr >the goverment is tracking you but it's not worth their time to look at that data unless your name is snowden or something.>MLA/AI will likely change this in the near future>use a VPN that doesn't keep logs
>>1273827Hi, CIA here, reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.
>>1278890That was close. In other matters: CIA sir, don't you have a torrent of Ai Iijima please?
>>1273827If you're not in the US, or some other shit hole - and not with a shitty ISP, you don't really need to use a VPN when you torrent. If you're using a trusted site, and you're not retarded, you'll be fine - at most you'll get a letter from your ISP telling you to stop, and that's only because the copywrite holder has put pressure on them. They don't actually care, and you don't have to delete anything. If you're using private trackers, and you should be, you doubly don't need to use a VPN. I've literally been torrenting movies, TV, games, music, porn, whatever else for 20 years - and never once with a VPN. It's never been an issue.
>>1273827Naruto is owned by Japan. Japan don't care if you torrent their media. In a way, they're actually OK with it because it gives them foreign exposure. They're not copyright cucks like Americans & EU & UN nations.
>>1273827Jews make a lot of money from the film and TV industries and jews are also in command of the government.2+2=4
They have way more serious shit to do than to spy on some random tard who download anime. They dont give a fuck about you.
>>1273827>Or is it all an honeypot?Probably>Am i fucked the moment i download something without VPN?Depends on your countryThey wont jail unless they need
>>1273840copying is not theft nor does it harm the creatoryou could argue that it harms the consumer though
>>1273827Storage is cheap and finding torrent peers is effectively free, why wouldn't they collect the data. And if Naruto is illegal in a decade they'll know exactly who to raid.
Keep in mind that if you're torrenting something degenerate, you can be sure that the NSA is keeping those records in case they ever need to specifically fuck YOU over. If somebody decides they don't like you, your rabbit fucking video addiction will be brought up in traffic court.
>>1273827https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com
>>1273840>t. kike who makes bad movies
>>1273827Don't torrent Paramount/Viacom/NuDisney/NuMarvel and you'll be fine. Don't seed longer than necessary for newer stuff.
>>1282206Paying for media forces Stockholm Syndrome effect to like it more, too.
>>1273827Depends where you live but governments generally don't care unless the actual thing you're downloading is illegal or sketchy. Or if you're running an entire piracy ring or website. Otherwise it's up to the copyright holders to track down and threaten legal action against pirates. Many companies find it's not worth their while, but some can be very aggressive. I don't think anyone cares about anime piracy, but recently released big studio movies or HBO shows seem to have a higher likelihood of getting you dinged.
>>1273827If you even have to ask then more than likely you are fucked. Honestly expect a raid of your house for your hard drive for any copy righted material. I hope you have a good lawyer/lots of money or are strong enough to fight off 3-5 black guys in a shower when you eventually get thrown in the slammer for 15 years you fucking moron.
>>1273835damn nigga you don't gotta knock that hard
>>1273827they can just send you a letter and you have to pay fees. really easy way to make money for them. like speed traps or something>>1274066also this. again same with speed traps
>stop my torrents>disconnect VPN>post 4chan or whatever>enable VPN again>proceed to torrentam I save or have I fucked up like in a red room creepypasta. I forgot to stop seeding too
>>1274031Legally, ISPs cannot forward your information to a business without a court order as part of legal action.If a company was even to bother asking your ISP, it's because they have a case.I use a VPN, but the way I figure it is tens of millions of people torrent things every day so who the fuck is going to care about Hard Boiled (1992) a 32 year old movie?But if you go and download the newest capeshit and then proceed to seed it?Well in my experience all I've ever gotten is a sternly written email from my ISP saying hey dude not cool please stop anyways your next payment is on this date
>>1288660Thanks for this. It's a good way to know what the peers of the torrents you're interested in also downloaded. It's a good way to get recommendations
>>1293338I don't know about other clients, but on qbittorrent you can make it automatically disconnect if for any reason your connection to your VPN is stopped.
>>1273835Left handed chads stay winning
I have NEVER purchased or used a VPN.
>>1273827>without VPNGlowies have backdoors into VPNs too
