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Independent sources of news, information, analysis, and commentary

Proper apostates of the establishment media welcome.

Try posting the sources you prefer rather than hating on someone else's choices.

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Behold a Pale Horse (book by Bill Cooper)

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>>1275439
With Independent Media there is a one serious tip for everybody.
Fact, there are independent media doesnt mean they will more match your point of view. They rather giving more clear and unpayed facts that develope your knowlage hwo things more likely works.
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you're joking, right?
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>>1275454
>Fact, there are independent media doesnt mean they will more match your point of view. They rather giving more clear and unpayed facts that develope your knowlage hwo things more likely works

So if someone's getting their funding from, just for example, Charles Koch, one of the wealthiest men on the planet, individuals who have massive secretive media empires that they're dumping so much money into, it'd make your head spin, would that still classify them as 'independent'?

Relatedly, if someone's receiving six or seven figure sums from someone like that, as we know a lot of these people are, does that not automatically come with an unspoken quid pro quo behind it? How can you even begin to trust what they're saying when they're basically receiving what amounts to massive sponsorship from multinational corporations?
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>Independent
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>>1275439
There is only one person in that collage that deserves to be in it. I'll let you decide.
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>>1275439

So outside the mainstream they have hundreds of thousands of followers are are millionaires.
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>>1275770
absolutely not one of the bottom three
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>>1275777

Okay.

So what are everyones' operational definitions of independent media?
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>Tiger Claws (1991)

A mysterious martial artist is going around and killing martial arts masters with his unique style, Tiger Claw. Two police detectives, who arealso martial arts experts, use unorthodox methods to track down the serial killer!

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>Tiger Claws II

The Tiger Claws killer is broken out of jail by a former colleague, who acquires a large shipment of weapons and schemes to open a portal to the past into an ancient martial arts temple.


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>Tiger Claws 3

When a martial artist called Stryker resurrects three ancient Chinese master assassins so he can take over NYC's underworld, it's up to martial artist cop Tarek Richards to stop them. But he will need the aid of Stryker's former master.

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>>1275833
It can be a grey area but "receives large amounts of funding from a few rich people/groups" disqualifies it.
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>>1276221
Also, 'has more than a million followers/viewers/subscribers'. Infowars claimed to have between 15-30 million viewers on average, Candice Owens has about 5.1 million on Instagram alone, Carlson has received about 80-100 million views of his show since he left Fox, and PJ Watson has around 2 mil on Youtube. If literally millions of people are watching you and following you, by most people's metrics, that would make you part of the mainstream - a niche part of the mainstream, sure, but you're still part of it
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>>1275439
Yeah, independent from fucking reality.

Why archive right-wing propaganda? There's a fucking fountainhead in the U.S. right now.
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>>1276315
Independant doesn't mean non-mainstream. Independant means you have no external financial incentive to lie or selectively cover the facts.
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>>1276994
Because it is more likely to get censored, removed and branded as illegal content than anything lefties create, even if its fundamentally the same.

Almost any content in /t/ from hypnoporn to japanese trannies vomiting on cocks is pretty much approved without critique but (((for some reason)) right-wingers commenting on serious issues of our world today cause a powerful reaction, of distain, disgust and hatred.

>>1275833
In my books IM do not pander to mainstream or better yet, their audience. Funding from powerful donors is vital as nobody can promote 'radical' or conservative ideas or comment on touchy issues AND work a normal job without risk of some commies clogging the employers email with demands to fire the lad.
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>>1277039
Funding from powerful donors makes you no longer independant. Just say you want to listen to the paid actors of the side you believe in instead of pretending they are what they aren't.
Also for your first point, you illustrate very well the issue with right wing commentators. Too busy convincing themselves of their own scenario to live in reality. Yeah anon, must be the jews who are the reason why people don't post critique on tranny threads (by the way, how do you know, i'm taking your word for it here), not the fact that most people are repulsed by that and won't click, so only the ones who enjoy it will participate in it.
Whereas people who would actually enjoy independent journalism will engage with your thread and be met with what looks more like a troll or a delusional pseudo-political clownshow.
Maybe the disdain comes from the same source as the disdain most people have for far left sources. Having to interact with sect leaders spewing whatever they thought up while brushing their teeth, being either completely idiotic, hystrionic or downright antipathic while being followed by a troupe of bumbling retards is what causes that reaction anon, not the kikes.
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>>1277039
>Funding from powerful donors is vital as nobody can promote 'radical' or conservative ideas or comment on touchy issues AND work a normal job without risk of some commies clogging the employers email with demands to fire the lad.

"Funding from powerful donors" makes you independent? Motherfucker that makes you THE EXACT OPPOSITE! At that point, whether you realise it or not, you are beholden to that wellspring, unless you want that gravy train to suddenly stop. If it turned out, I dunno, Jimmy Dore was being funded by Soros, you'd have a fucking field day, but Benny Shaps suckling from the Koch brothers and Alex Jones getting 8 million in bitcoin from 'an anonymous donor' is totally fine and dandy? Are you going to apply the same standards to your own people or do they get a pass because they're /your guys/?

>>1277034
Once you get that kind of reach, people start funding you. Once you get offers of funding from third parties - not viewer donations, I wanna be clear here - there comes expectations of what you will be expected to do. No company gives 5-6 figure sums without expecting something in return, be it pushing an agenda or what you cover. You can say 'nuh-uh' all you want, but we all know all these folks are kept on a shorter and tighter leash the more viewers they get.
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>>1277039
>Funding from powerful donors is vital

Okay, but here's the thing, chief: if you're beholden to ANY kind of master, you're not independent any more, are you. That's what 'independent' means,you understand that, right? If you're funded by a 'powerful donor', you're basically part of their PR wing. Or is it acceptable as long as they belong to one political end of the spectrum and everyone else can eat shit?
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>independent
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>>1275442
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>>1277039
>Because it is more likely to get censored, removed and branded as illegal content than anything lefties create, even if its fundamentally the same.

Wow, literally every word of that is wrong.
- Right wing ideas dominate all fucking media, fucking look around you find me one pro-marxist (actually Marxist BTW, not "HeRp DeRp LiBz R CoMmIeZ" right-wing propaganda crap) show, video, book in the mainstream.
- fundamentally the same, are you out of your whatever dog-shit-based substitute for a mind you have?
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>>1277861
you can tell who is wrong based off of how angry they get.
also hasan you girlyboi
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>>1277861
>Right wing ideas dominate all fucking media

There is no way any one person can be this brain dead.
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lame thread
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>>1275833
It should simply mean not being told what to do/say/report by the source of funds, be it subscribers, advertisers or some billionaire "philanthropist".
This doesn't preclude getting money from such, as long as they don't get to dictate content.
The definition is vague because people will inevitably feel pressured not to bite the hand that feeds them.
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>>1279191
Well then by that definition, there is no independent journalism, and certainly not the people who claim the title, because no way in hell they're doing anything that's going to jeopardize the, frankly insane amounts of cash being thrown at them by billionaires.
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>>1275439
"independent" then proceeds to show a pic with only retarded alt right jew founded pieces of shit
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>>1277887
It is true. The only ideas the jewish media fears is marxist/anarchist theory. Look up the "Tarnac Nine", "Tiqqun" or "The Invisible Committee" for example. Also, check up Alfredo Cospito and other anarchists like that. They are the ones our governments fear, not some retarded far right pieces of shit that have a platform everywhere and are founded by or art themselves millionaires/billionaires.
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>>1277887
Let me guess, you're the kind of person who thinks CNN is a radical left-wing platform because they bother to fact-check Republicans on occasion, right?
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>The lost tomb of Alexander the great

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>Ultimate Cock Photos Compilation

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Black Power, A British story of Resistance.

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>>1279296
Nice cock pics, bro
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>>1279651
alt right types love cock.
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>>1279881
I thought we were just using the term 'fascist' now? Matt Walsh cheerfully refers to himself as a fascist quite frequently, Cerno said we need to reclaim the term 'fascist' the same way gays reclaimed 'queer', etc.

Also, Alex Jones absolutely loves the cock, if you saw his text messages. Him and his wife would text each other BBC stuff all the time and he's been caught watching tranny porn in the past.
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>>1277861
This is bait. Has to be.
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Why try to get the actual truth when we can just troll each other in ignorance all day? Trolling each other while being controlled and manipulated is enough fun for anyone. Meaningless fun and maybe establishment-dictated outrage are all anyone should ever aspire to. Take THAT Emmanuel Goldstein! Be sure to eat your poisonburger while chugging your diabetes-inducing soda with a full day's supply of fluoride and brominated GMO basedbean oil while laughing at and/or being offended by anyone trying to do anything else.

ObTorrent:

Radio Bikini. Just how wonderful and glorious our Pacific nuclear tests were and how happy our vets are about being exposed to all that radiation. The Bikini Islanders felt honored to have hosted this historic event.

Oh wait. It got picked up by PBS and MTV, therefore it's exactly what the establishment wants us to believe. And the creators got recognition. And someone funded its budget. unforgivable.
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Slavoj Zizek documentary films 1993-2013

>Laibach - A Film From Slovenia (1993)
>Liebe dein Symptom wie Dich selbst! (1996)
>Predictions of Fire (1996)
>The Reality of the Virtual (2003)
>Žižek! (2005)
>The Pervert's Guide To Cinema (2006)
>Alien, Marx & Co. - Slavoj Žižek im Porträt (2006)
>Examined Life (2008)
>Terror! Robespierre and the French Revolution (2009)
>Marx Reloaded (2011)
>Catastroika (2012)
>Balkan Spirit (French Dub) (2013)
>The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2013)
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>>1279931
Then answer him. If it's that easy to find genuine left-wing media - and I don't mean 'has a gay or a trans or an interracial couple in it', like so many people claim - give a few examples.
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>>1277875
>>1277887
>>1279931
The smartest conservatards you're going to encounter today.
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>>1280040
>>1280052
How we doing today, Mr. No True Scotsman?
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>>1280096
Doing fine, Can't Answer A Straightforward Question Boy, you?
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>>1280040

this
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>>1280109
dishonest
>>1280113
certified retard
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>>1280374

Still refusing to answer the question.
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>>1280374
What's dishonest? You're dodging the question: if there's so much actual leftist mainstream content out there, it should be easy to name multiple examples. I don't see why you're having any kind of problem, unless a) you're so in your echo chamber, you refuse to look at anything which even has so much a hint of non-right-wing thought in it, b) you just pulled that statement out of your ass without even thinking, making you an idiot and a liar or c) it's a harder question to answer than you thought because you're so deluded into thinking DA LEFTISTS are everywhere and have taken over every media outlet, so everything is Woke, when it's performatively inclusive at best 99% of the time.
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>>1280396
I didn't bother answering you because you're obviously (a) a projecting, seething idiot and (b) going to automatically dismiss anything anyone posts. I have waaaay better things to waste my time on than your sorry ass.
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>>1280454

Refusing to answer the question but replying mutltiple times. Yep, you're sure not wasting your time answering!
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>>1280454>>1280454
>I have waaaay better things to waste my time on than your sorry ass
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>>1280468
>>1280482
Yawn
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>>1275439
Tucker Carlson tried to be a nazi and was too stupid to succeed. No, I do not need your horse shit.
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>>1277039
>Because it is more likely to get censored, removed and branded as illegal content than anything lefties create
Prove it.
Link here to evidence of your claims. All of your claims. I promise I will read anything you link.
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>>1280506
>>1280507
Amazing how much "leftist" butthurt this thread has produced. Is "independent" now a trigger word for you fags?
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>>1275441
>Greatest Lie Ever Sold
>George Floyd
so this is an obvious grift, we are well aware of the actual greatest lie to be sold to the public
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>>1280558

Indeed, that the Republican terrorists who attacked America were just sightseeing.
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>>1280575
Hey, remember when Infowars was like 'the Capitol has fallen to the Patriots' and saying that the Second American Civil War had begun and that it was a good thing?

And then all of Alex Jones' friends and associates who were there all received jail sentences, but Alex himself managed to skate by without a problem? And then Alex got an anonymous donation of about $10 million in bitcoin?

I mean, sure, the timing is suspicious as fuck and he's refused to discuss anything to do with it, but I'm sure there's a reasonable and rational explanation, right?
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>>1280556
Hey, I think there's a footballer taking a knee during the national anthem, shouldn't you be having a reasonable, rational response to that?
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>>1280629
Butthurt? Yep, butthurt.
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OP should feel bad lumping someone like Bill Cooper with grifters.
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>>1280772
Coward? Yup, coward
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>>1280810
lel, more lefttard projection
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do the Young Turks count as independent?
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>>1281008
Don't think they're receiving the same corporate/billionaire largess as Infowars, Shappy or any other others (otherwise people would've made a huge stink about it being Soros-funded or whatever), so there's a better argument to be made for them being independent than basically anyone else mentioned.
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>>1281008
Possibly. I ignore them for multiple reasons, but independent isn't a guarantee of good, informative, and useful -- just that they're probably not reading off of the establishment script.

The responses to my quick and dirty montage have definitely shown me that not everyone has as broad an idea of independence as I do, but at least a discussion is happening.
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So if we can't agree on what counts as independent, can we create more specific terms to use that we can agree on?
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>>1280627
the people pushing unfounded conspiracy theories always seem to have the most bullshit going on outside of the spotlight. I am starting to think thats not a coincidence.
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Les gay jewish blather and more torrents
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>>1275439
op is an idiot
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>>1277887
anon, right wing does not mean your specific, far-right brand of "white genocide" brainworms.
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>>1280556
> you are using words wrong
> OH ARE YOU TRIGGERED?!

lmao. right wingers repurposed the word "woke" as a category of things that make them piss and ugly cry. all the media they consume is just listing things to be mad about. youtubers become millionaires making channels that just have red trigger words to set you off screaming. and then you have the audacity to say it's left-wingers are all triggered snowflakes. uwu are you feelings hurt.

they gave a transwoman you've never fucking heard of a single can of shit, saltburn bathwater tasting beer, and you collectively shit yourself for six fucking months about. smashed up shops, shot it with guns. you are dumb, reactionary hicks.
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>>1284532
Shit, trigger warnings came into use initially to help soldiers coming back from war who may have been dealing with PTSD. But all the e-celebs people simp for never mention that part of the story. So much for supporting the troops and all that bullshit.
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>>1275439
Fairly sure China uncensored is a cult mouthpiece and exclusively funded by the Falun Dafa cult

Not exactly independent

Also if you consider Paul Joseph Watson standing in front of his map "News" then something is seriously wrong
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>>1280556
>Utter fucking retard says something mind-bogglingly retarded and wrong
>"You are retarded and wrong."
>HA HA! Libz pwned! Look at all the lefty butthurt!
It's such a simple formula, it's practically an algorithm. You're not a bot running on a 8-bit PIC are you?
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>>1280556
what do you think the word triggered means?
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>>1284532
>>1286147
>>1286205
Thanks for proving the point.
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>>1277034

Bait. No one is this retarded. Just have the balls to admit you want right bias media to match your baser world view.
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>>1286504
Jimmies status: Rustled
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Dont let it die

>>1275439


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"""Independent""", right.

https://twitter.com/davidicke/status/1733758786660082174

David's Twitter feed is very good in general, it's worth checking out. Try https://nitter.esmailelbob.xyz/davidicke if you don't have an account.
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>>1288935
He's not wrong. Every single one of them is worth, at the very least, tens of millions, hundreds of millions in several cases. But they're fighting the Global Elite, they'll tell you all you need to need to do to win, and if you give them all your money and let them put chips in your brain, if you're very lucky, you'll get to live in indentured servitude on Mars!

Remember when Alex Jones used to be against that? And then he got all buddy-buddy with the richest man in the world and said he was one of the Good Guys? Must be so neat to just throw away your principals for cash, huh.
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>>1288953
MAM doesn't smell too good. https://twitter.com/libertytarian/status/1733989061973479496
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>>1288964
Oh yeah, I remember Stevie P talking about the blockchain ballots. I also remember him saying he was the first person who ever caught covid and that he cured it... in about 2010. He also claimed he had been poisoned with polonium, which, if that's true, he looks great, absolutely zero long-term side-effects, unlike what happens with polonium poisoning.

And, as he says, Jones has long boasted about his CIA connections, the amount of time he's spent with people he claims are his enemies... but he makes the Libruls mad and he supports the right people, so let's just ignore the ChiCom cavalcade of red flags and continue to shovel money into his offshore accounts.
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shots fired
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>>1275439
imagine putting bill cooper alongside these jewish rats
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>>1289286
>bill cooper
he was a satanist and an infiltrator and all americans are retards
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>>1275439
gay thread, op
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>>1289286
"its not the jews" - Bill cooper
"black people have been treated so bad" - bill cooper
"the real nazis, are white British people" - bill cooper
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>>1275458
>ignores that every "legitimate" media outlet is owned by multinational corporations run by billionaires, including Facebook and Google
>"but muh fox news Koch brothers"
Stop anon, that horse has been dead for some time now.
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>>1292754
Still doesn't make it any less true: if it's bad when CNN does it, but totally fine when Ben Shapiro or whoever your guy is does it, that makes you a massive fucking hypocrite *at best*.



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