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>Gaki no Tsukai, Documental, Wednesday Downtown, Lincoln, Knight Scoop, etc.:
https://thesilentlibrary.com/
https://chikichiki.tube/
https://www.gakiarchives.com/
https://www.wednesdaydowntown.com

>GCCX pastebin (subbed and RAW):
https://pastebin.com/u/GCCXGeneral
>GCCX collection by anon:
https://pastebin.com/jZBTtbyV
https://mega.nz/file/VKJVSI4a#J0z4Fmj6ldIkOGwTMgvzapQOyifFoHXFxj05RIwzxR8 (Missing video from S12)

>Takeshi's castle (subbed and RAW):
https://pastebin.com/G41gWhSS

>Idol shows:
https://pastebin.com/4nY0gLxn
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-43YkQL-F0u9JHjbaPA0_diUIq_gVftq (AKBingo subbed and RAW)
https://pastebin.com/7HtEkq6D (Random AKB48, Mechaike, SKE48 episodes)

>Tokyo Encounter (subbed):
https://bakuhatsubutsu.livejournal.com/7835.html

>Denpa Shonen Nasubi 1998 電波少年 なすび (subbed):
https://nyaa.si/view/812319

>G4 Ninja Warrior (Minus 1 and 6-12 competition)
https://mega.nz/folder/LgsV2ACA#2nxDnfTA5h1zIEtEKzppfw/folder/qplk2LyS

>Japan Hour: Road Trip Series (Subbed) 6 episodes:
https://pastebin.com/wqGdy561

>Battle For Money Sentouchuu (Sadly only the first 3 episodes are subbed out of 10):
https://archive.org/details/BattleForMoneySentouchuu

GnT 24/7 streams:
https://gaki-no-tsukai.stream/typhome
https://www.twitch.tv/father_jimmy_
http://www.psp-tv.com/r/CozyBatsu

Last thread:
>>1220870
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Removed some links from the previous OP, but if you still want them for some reason then check the previous thread (the pastebins are still up but I'm not updating them, so some links might be dead). All of the stuff that I've removed is either in the first 4 links or on Nyaa.
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>>1319405


These threads are disgusting.


Matsumoto is the most heinous criminal who has ever walked the planet.


Matsumoto will go down in the annals of history as the most evil man who has ever existed.


How OP can read the shocking details of his awful crimes and still dare to post his dastardly face here is beyond me.


Every show and movie he has been associated with should be burned and forgotten.
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>>1319713
Who?
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>>1319713
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>>1319713
cope, seethe
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>>1319405
i cannot express how disappointing it is to attempt to archive subbed episodes. every one of these niggers is uploading the episodes to some guest account on mega.nz and then hiding the links behind yet another guest account pastebin and that's if they aren't paywalled (and the paywall probably is just mega links too, which will eventually go down). organizing the archives is a complete nightmare. ill never know what ive seen and haven't seen.
death to all niggers who can't use the internet to properly upload content.
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>>1320036
lol this guy has no idea how good he has it
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>>1319713
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>>1320036
Its extremely confusing. Just download literally everything and go from there.
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>>1320391
i refuse. its just so disappointing that this community cant get it together. uploading to guest accounts on mega and hiding links and then the megas get taken down anyway. its just so bizarrely stupid. there is no way to organize this. it is a nightmare and impossible to track. it would be better if it all just stopped. just stop ripping, stop subtitling, stop it all. if you cant organize things better than this then it shouldnt exist at all. fuck all of you
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>>1320434
It's not great but it's far better then it used to be, i remember the day of trying to gain access to shitty live journal groups because they had this one episode translated of some show because some johnny idol or whatever appeared. Like it or not we have it good now.
However ever since worst korea became more culturally relevant translation wise it became a lot worse.
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>>1320434
desu im thinking about just using AI to sub it myself and using the japanese i know to fill in the blanks. i already have japanese television live translation set up using synthalingua. fuck these dirty subbers.
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>>1320481
That's what I started doing, just using whisperAI then I rework the subtitles with what I know of Japanese.
All Gaki subtitling seems to have stopped, there hasn't been any episodes from 2024 added to the library, and just 4 from 2023.
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>>1320434
calm down there is a spreadsheet with literally everything
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>>1320527
Does the spreadsheet not lag for you? Also its a bit different then seeing the entire thing. Even though the thesilentlibrary has everything uploaded to a private server it shouldn't be that difficult. I wish there was an easier way to download shit. When a new video is translated it gets uploaded then i could just pull it. Instead I kinda have to make sure I check the twitter and then the archive naming scheme just to make sure it is the right one.
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>>1320568
It sounds like you have some valid complaints, but this is far from "there's no way to organize this" and "it's impossible to track." If you want to be hyperbolic nobody will stop you, but if you want help or change, it's better to be accurate.

A revamped list is a long-term project in the works, so there's not much else I can do about that for now. You can probably set a script to pull the sheet on a schedule and keep a local copy, maybe that would be faster for you?

Host-wise, If you don't like mega accounts and you don't like private servers, what what would you prefer? We can't sue mega any more since the takedown, and I won't consider another service that might do the same thing down the road, but I'm always open to better file solutions.
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>>1320527
if you're willing to buy a mega.nz subscription or sit around manually changing your proxy. does magabastard even work anymore?
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>>1320587
>It sounds like you have some valid complaints,
I don't really have any thesilentlibrary does a great job. The only real one is just trying to figure out what has been newly translated. I know you can use twitter/folder index but if there was an option to sort by newly translated. I think what I am asking for is something like how fanbox has an option to add tags at the bottom of posts. Once clicked on the tag it'll take you to the posts with that tag sorted by newest to oldest. It could be #WDT #gaki #knightscoop #raws etc etc. Have rss that way it can be tracked easier.
>If you want to be hyperbolic
I'm not that other guy. I was just offering something constructive even though i think retards like him should be told to fuck off cause >>1320444 is right.
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>>1320725
Oh yeah then fuck that other guy.

The best I can offer at at this moment, is if you go to the files (tsl.chikichiki) and select "The Silent Library (single folder)," you'll get a flat directory that you can sort by upload date.

Also, if you aren't already aware, you can also check the changelog at the far right tab of the spreadsheet, rather than the social media announcements, if that helps any.
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Does anyone have the Dotchi Cooking Show + New Dotchi Cooking Show collection? I lost my old library and I can't find a decent torrent anymore.
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>>1321320
https://nyaa.si/view/1814343
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>>1321415
cool
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>>1320771
yeah thats what I was talking about the flat directory will show new uploads but thats only when you or whom ever uploads. It might be remastered subtitles or old WDT. I really dislike the WDT naming its just WDT doesn't really describe anything. btw these are just nitpicks. Would really like some alternative blog style for new content updates cause twitter is shit.
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>>1321717
Now the WDT naming I agree with, but I wouldn't demand the uploaders write in-depth titles about which theories they test on the episode, what I usually do is watch an episode then just add on the theories to the title so I know for later watching.
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>This is the only good thread I recognize from 2019 when I used to frequent
What the hell happened to this board? It used to be my go to for cool shit, but there's a new thread for every porn compilation and requestfag now.
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>>1321721
go by the official episode list even if it jumps around?
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>>1321723
add filters to catalog to get rid off porn
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>>1321976
I shouldn't have to do that. I've had a little time to think about this, and it's just making me angrier and angrier. This used to be THE go to board for cool shit, but now it's just a wasteland of new threads for every porn comp and shitty request. It's not acceptable. If this doesn't change I'm going to get hyper fucking pissed. Zakennayo
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>>1321721
I agree that the WDT naming is a problem. The raws for shows like GnT that tend to have a single topic have a descriptive filename e.g. 「ダウンタウンのガキの使いやあらへんで!FUJIWARA原西のギャグ100連発![字]_2023-11-05_JPTVclub」 which can kind of work for everyone's theories episodes or specials, but WDT filenames would get crazy long. FWIW, there is a person who's been tirelessly submitting the theories per-episode, and I usually commit them on the spreadsheet the next time I add stuff (which is admittedly too long at the moment).

How about this: I'll scrub through WDT episodes before uploading looking for theory title cards, and I'll add those into the announcements. Probably something I should've been doing already, but in my mind the tweets were still just kind of bonus side things, rather than something people were actually paying attention to (for a long time, the spreadsheet's changelog was the only similar thing, mea culpa).

Specifically for >>1321717 I'm not sure if that list updates whenever a file is changed. I *think* so but it depends on how it's handled on the backend. I've asked the chikichikitube dev about it and will get back to you.
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>>1321998
yeah no shit you shouldn't have to nigga but it's the only solution aside from genociding 99% of humanity who are porn addicts or even the Jewish multimillionaires who own the porn production companies
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>>1321717
Just tested it (by adding a commented line to oolong tea), and it looks like stuff gets bumped to the top when it's updated.
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>>1321723
The tl;dr is that coomers ruin every non-porn NSFW board
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>>1322004
I have no idea how anyone could name the shows besides episode number. File name is waaay to long.
>>1322206
Yeah, I figured as much but my issue just remembering everything. I download all the new translations and still manage to get duplicate. The only way to really fix it is to download when new stuff gets post on twitter. i do appreciate all the work btw.
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>>1322556
Ofc, we aim to please ヽ(´ー`)ノ
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>>1322357
lol no. I think its better desu it filters out normies who can't handle the weird shit that gets posted.
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anybody got beach boys ?
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Does anyone have the Yuuyake Nyan Nyan DVDs with all the appearances by Onyanko Club?

https://jpop.fandom.com/wiki/Yuuyake_Nyan_Nyan_Onyanko_Shirosho_(1985_Nen_4_~_6_Gatsu)
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>>1320277
someone please provide context on this one.
>is that tanaka with "joker" makeup?
>hamada looks kinda fearful IMHO
Im not going to make rushed conclusions, but without context and sound, beyond that tanaka seems to be enjoying it, something dont sits right with me with this video. I dunno, I feel like an IA hallucinating, just making things up because of lack of information
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>>1324891
There are 3 Tanaker episodes at this point. It's basically the same as the old "Tanaka snaps" episodes.
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>>1324891
They made a "Joker" parody with Tanaka as the joker taking revenge on the other four since he's the one they make the most fun of on their show.
Tanaka dresses up as the joker and throws cream pies at them while they have to pretend like they're actually filming another segment and can't see him.
Obviously Hamada couldn't help but react when Tanaka got right in his face.
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Looks like Matsumoto is about to be cleared of all charges and win a big settlement.
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>>1327336
Jesus been away from this general like 3 months, still love it obvious and hopefully it remains up, I usually don't keep up with new updates because I rather take some hours to download all that I missed to watch comfy during the winter when there is less stuff to do.
Can you guys give qrd of what happened with Matsumoto ? Was now searching seems that was some Sexual Misconduct allegation that went to court if I'm not wrong.
Anyway this general rocks, it has been a while I did no lurked here so here is my bump of glory
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>>1329175
A magazine accused him of having his juniors bring him girls for him to fuck in return for him to give them a career boost.
The magazine claimed to have several girls willing to testify, Matsumoto was immediately put on leave from all the shows he was currently working on, even though this was all rumors.
During the court case it quickly became apparent that the magazine had fuck all of actual evidence, only a couple of women came to testify and said nothing more than "Matsumoto asked me for sex, and when I refused he berated me in front of others.", which isn't a crime.
The magazine has been attempting to make the court battle last as long as possible to prevent Matsumoto to return to TV, but it's expected to soon be over and Matsumoto will win a big defamation suit settlement.
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How come this shit isn't done first (or at all for most shows) on private trackers? Would be the organization and all that it needs.
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>>1329733
What's lacking in organization now?
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>>1329865
unsure, to me there's no visible organization at all besides one gigantic torrent. On a private tracker, one would have release information for every show, wtf the source is and who subbed, maybe even like avistaz and people upload their own subs to the release page, rules, and splitting things up so you can actually see what needs seeding, what's done, what's not, EASILY. And all of that facilitated by torrents instead of ddl and streaming shit.

And the thing is, it would just take uploading the shit from the gigantic torrent to somewhere like avistaz. Once you start to do that, you'll have an entire army of autists ready and willing to help out and share their own sources and upload your shit to trackers. Right now it seems only the batsu games are on any trackers.

But I realize this is probably one of those things where I have to be the change I wanna see, so I guess I'll look into actually DOING this if no one else cares.
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>>1329878
https://thesilentlibrary.com/ I've been doing all of that stuff for years. The main library is mirrored across like 7 different volunteer servers globally.
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>>1329881
And I appreciate you and your work very much. I'm just a bit too used to trackers and the way they are organized, it's different.
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>>1329887
Everything is public, so feel free to do whatever you like with it. I guess I just still don't understand; all the stuff you're asking for is already done. There's a spreadsheet tracking the releases with subbing group and source and such. Literally every subbed episode is logged and published and made available as a direct download. I admit that a new master torrent is a bit overdue (I think I can get around to it at the end of October). Again though, if you think there's some advantage to doing whatever it is you're talking about, please don't let me stop you. More copies of the library can't be a bad thing.
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>>1329889
Also, the torrent you've screenshotted is lower quality than the library's copy. I don't understand why a tracker would be an advantage here, since I can update stuff as I get new raws. Go ahead and update them with my copy, I guess.
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>>1329892
>lower quality
yeah, I think that's actually the direction the problem really is in, i.e., private trackers don't know about you and whatever sources they use are shite. So I suppose I just need to share the good word. Anyways, wanted to reiterate how thankful I am, would never have watched more than a few clips on youtube if not for your work. I will never stop seeding.
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So i can safely say we are in a very dark period when it comes to subbing. Only zwanster is really translating stutff anymore and he is just translating from already done chinese subs handed to him. Still at least he is doing it.Wonder what needs to happen for it to gain some traction again. Grim.
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>>1330615
It's genuinely really depressing. Might be the biggest blackout we've ever had. Just a couple of years ago we were getting multiple episodes subbed every week. No clue why that changed. Very surprised we aren't even getting the odd new episode, not even from the popular series like Kiki. Don't know if the Matsumoto scandal had anything to do with it but I feel like it had already started before that. Really bums me out
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>>1330615
>>1330686
This is just the churn. Subbers come and go on like a 5-20 month cycle.
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>>1330686
>not even from the popular series like Kiki
I was honestly shocked when I looked at the RAW files in the library and saw that there were two (2) Kiki episodes that hadn't been subbed.
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Does anyone have a good quality collection of the original Japanese Iron Chef? Preferably the dubbed and undubbed episodes? Found a 170gb~ torrent but the quality is awful
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>>1319713

what the fuck did he do?
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>>1330828
It's already been explained in the thread, read it.
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>>1330725
Sure but even during down periods there was some minor subbing happening, Even if it was something related like an idol show or whatever.
Speaking of idols, Even those shows aren't getting subbed like they used to.
I wonder if patreon and its consequences have something to do with it.
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>>1330858
There's like an episode-ish a month and assorted clips coming from the father jimmy crew, do those not count? I guess either way we'll se in 5 years whether this was the death of gnt fansubbing or not.
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>>1330898
They have only really released extra contend from the yearly new year specials no? I don't see anything new in the library change log.
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>>1330615
ive noticed this as well.
>>1330858
>I wonder if patreon and its consequences have something to do with it.
Yeah, I'm guessing its this. Also I know at least one fan subber got a real job but he barely uploaded content to begin with.
>>1330725
>5-20 month
no way. this is the worst period in a very long time. It took fucking like 2+ years for them to translate the last end of year special for fuck sake. In all honesty I feel like this might actually be good thing due to how many fucking normie shitheads want to interject themselves into Japan rn. Hopefully they all fucking forget and start being interested in dog shit south korean programming.
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Does anyone know where to find Kiki #44 Caffe Latte subs? I've been waiting for them for well over a year and it seems that everyone gave up on subtitling this episode. It's the last one with Machan and it's really good from my broken jap understanding of it.
Anyone have them?
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>>1329187
Thanks man
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Anyone know if Fujimon has been appearing on tv or not? Hopefully he doesn't disappear like miyasako
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>>1331932
fujimon was literally on this week’s episode of gaki that aired on tv like 3 days ago
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>>1331867
Doesn't look like it's ever been translated, several people have claimed they started translating, but nothing has actually been released yet.
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>>1331959
One of the people who started the translation but gave up due to personal issues actually released the Japanese ass files.
I tried looking into using automatic translation but it's a pain because of formatting.
Apparently, there's a Windows program that can translate them using Google/DeepL (or whatever) but I don't know what that program is and I don't use Windows.

Does anyone know how to translate .ass files?
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>>1331960
Subtitle Edit can do it, but it would just be direct translation/approximate sentences from the library. Every pun would most likely be lost.
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>>1331960
JP subtitles are muxed into all the post-ernie tsl raws.
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>>1331934
Nice. He's one of my favorites so I'm glad he wasn't exiled like the others
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>>1331867
Man Hamada looks haggard af. Meanwhile Matsumoto doesn't look that much different all things considered. Guess the stress of the scandal didn't affect him physically.
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>>1332307
This is one of the last things they recorded before the scandal became a thing, Matsumoto has not been on TV since the scandal.
Hamada has been looking rough for years, it's like he doesn't really care anymore, just going thru the motions. Yet the episodes after Matsumoto was put on leave he's a lot more spry, he knows he has to keep the ship together until Matsumoto comes back.
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>>1332307
>>1332413
Actually I'm not even right about that, it's just the last KiKi recorded before the scandal, just checked the library and this episode is from February 2023.
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Someone posted this on /jp/ but i felt it belonged here too. Finally some good variety for once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGQT5NPW2eM [Embed]

The new variety show "KILLAH KUTS" by Downtown staff for Amazon Prime is being advertised as too extreme for TV, including concepts like dueling with tasers.

>EP 1: Stun Gun Sports
>EP 2: Anesthesia Dying Message
>EP 3: A race where participants must ask people on the street if they're politically left or right-wing and then turn accordingly
>EP 4: Male Virgin Mafia Game
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>>1332853
This honestly looks like it could've been rejected theories on Wednesday Downtown
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>>1332853
>>1332855
>EP 2: Anesthesia Dying Message
Yeah you can see how this is Wednesday segments they can't do on TV. Half-euthanizing comedians to give them near death experiences probably does not fall under compliance.
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Anyone know where I can find LOVE LOVE あいしてる ?
It's got these PuriPuriPretty interview segments with Tomoe Shinohara that I enjoy.
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rumors are Matsumoto is returning to wednesday downtown. I guess on the tbs website there was some matsumoto+hamada banner that was up announcing.
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>>1332413
>it's like he doesn't really care anymore
he's a rich, famous 60-something year old that's wanted to retire for years at this point and he's still stuck getting smacked in the balls.
Johnny Knoxville at least had the common sense to only do a handful of movies/shows then quit.
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Jungle Pocket's Shinji Saito just retired due to him I guess molesting some girl in the company van
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>>1333674
Not true matsumoto loves doing this stuff. I rhino he might come off a bit stans offish now just cause he's old
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>>1334135
We were talking about Hamada

>>1333674
>he's still stuck getting smacked in the balls
Not so sure about this, how many years has it been since Hamada took an actual punishment?? And I'm talking a serious hit, not the foam bats they use on their padded asses.
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>>1334134
People are saying he just went with it without fighting it at all.
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>>1334134
>Shinji Saito
Really liked him but his popularity was dwindling anyway so i guess he just accepted it.
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>>1334165
He was out for awhile due to health issues he was in the hospital for awhile
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Actor Toshiyuki Nishida dies at age 76 at his home in Tokyo
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>>1335775
Night scoop
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>>1335775
I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone.
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>>1335775
Great actor and tarento, Loved him in outrage.
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Any subbed Ametalk episode?
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>>1336212
Yes
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>>1335775
rip
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>>1335775
ahh shit it's that actor from Doctor X
Gyoi
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anyone ever made a list / compilation of gaki members eating food / food related episodes?

would love to eat din din while watching 'em eat
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>>1338474
>Absolutely Tasty
#667, #696, #713, #726, #734, #760, #784, #797, #829, #834, #853, #891, #1001, #1059, #1126, #1316, #1317, #1368, #1384, #1489, #1521

>Food Marathon
#859, #970, #971, #995, #996, #1019, #1020, #1069, #1070, #1107, #1108, #1392, #1393, #1413, #1414, #1434, #1435, #1458, #1459, #1475, #1476, #1668, #1669
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>>1338474
>would love to eat din din while watching 'em eat
>>1338477
>>Absolutely Tasty
99% of dishes on AT are disgusting. It's one of my least fav shows that they do. I always gag a bit at some of the "dishes" they prepare. I fail to understand why this shit is popular.
KIKI is vastly superior IMO.
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>>1338728
>i fail to understand
because its funny you idiot. Sometimes they try to make something different other times its just them forcing each other to eat gross shit.
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I miss seeing them force Heipo into situations he hates
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>>1338728
>99% of dishes on AT are disgusting.
At most there might be 3 dishes out of the 10 they make each episode that is gross, and usually because Matsumoto is just fucking around with the ingredients for comedic effect.
Most of the dishes are just bland or odd, then there's a couple that they say actually taste good.
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Manga artist and artist Kazuo Umezu passed away. He used to be on Gaki a lot. Rip to a great artist.
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Damn, I wish the guy translating WDT would stick to WDT. Now he's doing gaki and it just seems like a waste to me
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>>1339644
He is looking for a extra bit of income. No surprise there. In other news i have been testing out AI translation with Atrain and results are promising. Still needs some work but it is close to getting there (think 90% accurate) and finishes a 45 minute video in around 10 minutes.
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Matsumoto dropped the lawsuit, apologized to the women and seems to have moved on. Both parties say they haven't settled (received or gave away any money to one another) either. Seems pretty weird desu.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GakiNoTsukai/comments/1gmbnv1/matsumoto_drops_defamation_lawsuit_against/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GakiNoTsukai/comments/1gmucp5/english_translation_of_statement_from_shukan/
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>>1339944
Read the yoshimoto release
https://www.yoshimoto.co.jp/info/1392/
reddit is fucking dog shit.

Matsu-chan complete victory

・In the end, there was no physical evidence to show whether or not there was coercion.
・Matsumoto's side has effectively won, so there is no point in continuing the trial any further.
・No money was exchanged between the other party.
・No sexual assault occurred, but we would like to apologize to any women who participated who felt uncomfortable.
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>>1339944
I wouldn't say its weird besides a long af lawsuit that would require Matsumoto be off the air. Matsumoto also posted about it
https://x.com/matsu_bouzu/status/1854800083168219258
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>Matsu-chan complete victory
Delusional af. He lost because he sued and dropped when he realize he'd lose. He's funny af but messed up in head... just going by all these women have been saying. Even if half of it is true.
>>1339967
>require Matsumoto be off the
It was a self-imposed absence because he knew he'd get heckled and all the feminazis would protest him and advertising companies.

He'll come back if he thinks he can get away with it and there won't be much opposition. We'll see what these women do. They might file a lawsuit of their own and seek for some money.
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>>1340478
>Girl claiming something happened to someone she hasn't talked to for years herself 8 years ago.
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>>1340490
We shall see. I don't see an easy/quick way for Machan to return on WedDown or GnT.
Problem are advertisers and the backlash they might get.
Japan is a very different society even from 5 years ago. All the garbage ideologies from the US have poisoned the minds of their women and people in general.
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>>1340478
>>1340490
>Not to mention she just happens to speak out about it right after it's announced Matsumoto will come back to TV, why didn't she say anything during the trial??
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>>1340737
>why didn't she say anything during the trial
What trial? There was no trial. They withdrew the lawsuit because they knew they were going to lose.
Whoever was advising Machan is a fucking idiot. They should have handled this like every other high-profile scandal was handled: a public apology. He would have been back on TV by now.
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>>1340767
>Whoever was advising Machan is a fucking idiot.
I think something happened behind closed doors, they must have come to some sort of agreement that we don't know about.
There were those rumors early on that Matsumoto pissed off someone higher up and this entire thing was a big sham just to punish him and show him that he's not untouchable just because he's been considered one of the top comedians for so long.
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>>1340066
That is not what happened they both agreed and both apologized. Matsu-chan couldn't come back if he had a pending lawsuit. you fucking retard.
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>>1340767
Are you retarded? They both came to the decision during close door meeting. If you actually read what happened everyone involved apologized. I'm pretty sure Matsumoto could have won but it would have taken fucking forever. The only problem was that Matsumoto took way to long to sue them.



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