Sigmarite Brotherhood edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>92542358 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Tools:warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread question:How do you feel overall about the newest article?https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/17/the-fires-of-combat-rage-higher-than-ever-in-newaos/TQ: Thoughts on new magic?
>>92552632What have I become?My sweetest friendEveryone I know goes awayIn the endAnd you could have it allMy empire of dirtI will let you downI will make you hurt
>>92552632TQ:How they have written the system to keep account of people using commands to cast in the opponent turn is pretty smart. Also prayers feel actually different instead of just being spells but better
>>92552632>TQIt all looks good but I'm wary about how this "all casters get access to the chosen spell lore" system is going to work with specialized gimmick casters. A warlock engineer and a grey seer shouldn't be casting the same spells, nor a webspinner shaman and a moonclan shaman, nor a butcher and a firebelly.
>>92552632>Thoughts on new magic?I like everyone casting from the same lore and no duplicate spells. It gives a more predictable set of abilities to each faction and leaves wizards as a whole more open-ended. I'm assuming warscroll spells will still be a thing for some units.I DON'T like the very large range on unbinds, I don't like that the spells we've seen so far just do some amount of damage and not much else, and I'm not sure about this whole ritual point prayer minigame.Picking a manifestation lore with several associated spells is an improvement over paying points for endless spells - IF they make sure there are actually compelling reasons to choose different manifestation lores.
>>92552685>I'm assuming warscroll spells will still be a thing for some units.It is; we saw one on Nagash's scroll.
>>92552678My hope is that they finally take the chance to get away from the retarded "every lore is either 3 or 6 spells because ten years ago we tried to make people roll for what spells the wizards got".
>>92552685>I'm assuming warscroll spells will still be a thing for some units.Didn't Nagash already have one?
>>92552678It's almost like the flavorless simplification people warned us about in 10e is coming to AoS.
>>92552706We have seen more flavour and variety in five warscrolls than in the totality of 40k 10th edition.
This is now a Kragnos thread.
>>92550428;DThat was good, cheers anon.
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>>92552745Skaven have been retired as a 4e launch faction in favour of Kragnos' brother, Nargkos.
>make two special killaboss sculpts>neither comes with a stab-grot>make special shaman>doesn't come with a pot-grotWhat did they mean by this
>itching to buy another 6 kroxigors now that they seem feasible in the 4th editioni want to play them with regular Skinks and Raptadon Chargers in 4th, talk me out of it if you can
>>92552632>TQ:I was wondering about the "one lore per army thing" and how it would impact factions that like to have multiple lores, like Tzeentch and LuminethIs there a chance for the introduction of "combined lores" that are faction/army-specific?Potentially a return of some form of high-magick and dark-magic?
>>92552772The great horned ragnos
>>92552632Based Be'lakor for ending fatcast.>TQLooks better than what we had, but I wish magic used a resource system too (kinda like prayers) so we could save up to unleash actual scary endless spells that had effects worthy of having models on the tabletop.
>>92552745I wish there was more mpreg stuff of him, like that one kitbash
>>92552786>make special chaos sorcerer sculpt>comes with familiars>no rules for them >>92552820>like that one kitbashwh-what
>>92552788That's a fucking fantastic color scheme anon. Great job.
>>92552805>Is there a chance for the introduction of "combined lores" that are faction/army-specific?The spells we have seen specify what wizards can cast them. It would be very easy to have something like a lore for Lumineth that has a few spells that are for elemental mages only.
>>92552786Grots are getting beasted.>>92552805Pretty easy to just make exceptions for those armies or give them a bigger faction spell list.
>>92552832thanks buddy
Is manifestation lore chosen *instead* of a normal spell lore?If so then Endless spells are either super strong or no one takes them.
end of an era
>>92552953Feels bad tbqh
>>92552938No they are in addition. So they turned Endless Spell the same as free Terrain
>>92552938I thought they meant one can choose 1 lore each for spells, prayers, and manifestation
>>92552953That half the Sacrosanct are in Realms of Ruin is almost comedic. Makes me guess they chose to squat them rather late.
>>92552846
>>92553059saved
>>92552632On one hand I like that I can take all my FEC spells for free instead of just taking the Chalice because it’s the best one On the other hand, I don’t like that the other ones will be weirdly broken up
>>92553033It's funnier that they included unreleased models without fanfare
>>92552846They're totally updating basic skinks next edition, right? Are the Skink behemoths safe to purchase without impatient remorse?
>>92553094The bastiladon yes. The triceratops I wouldn't be surprised to see redone
>>92553094>will they update skinks Yes because the scope of TOW has expanded.All WHFB models will be in TOW over the next 2 years.
>>92552786>make two special killaboss sculptsActually this guy is just a Gutrippa unit champion>t. uses him as Killaboss anyway
>>92553115Doubt that's a motivation but we have new skink models so they have the base assets for a core kit update, plus it's been the jankiest whfb options conversion since launch
>>92553115Not from legacy factions.They're apparently getting Kislev and Cathay though, for the people who cared about that.
>>92553107>>92553094bastiladon will get that much needed buffs and the skink keyword, its ridiculous how lacking it is compared to the stegadontroglodon will still be viable if it keeps the minus to hit aura
>>92553147Fucking hope KB get's BoC's ambushing rules SO badly.KB need help.
>>92553168give it anti-daemon (again) you cowards
>>92553158I want Kislev to use them for Cities
>>92553158Didn't they say there's no plans for them currently a few months ago
>>92553172We ain't getting more than one battle trait
>>92552745Here's hoping that Kraggy gets a containment faction so he stays out of my damn greenskins.
>>92553212Kragnos cares not how the walls topple fren.I can see the Kruleboyz turning against him (cause those guys aren't really very smashy to begin with), but I can understand why the Ironjawz would think he was alright.
Where the fuck is the Fleet Master in the store?
>New AoS edition gets revealed>New Rats, new Stormcast>AoS threads dead>Female Custodes "revealed">40kg threads go off the rails>multiple threads a day for over a week nowWhy do we keep losing like this? When are they gonna announce something?
>>92553200My sauce is this.>>92553204Wasn't it two per faction in the index? No?
>>92553300>More shitposts is good
>>92552846Your skink and raptodon scheme are fathoms worse than your kroxigor, it's almost impressive how much worse it is
>>92553304What spoilers has he given that are yet to be officially revealed?
>>92553283Silently soft squatted. All aelves and duardin will leave CoS as soon as their 4E time drops. This will conveniently coincide with Dark Elves coming to TOW as a “new” evil army
>>92553300please shove your idiotic take into your asshole
>>92553300You're... envious of the 40k threads right now?
>>92552703You still roll for spell lore in ToW, but you can just buy an upgrade to select whatever spells you want instead
SUMMON HIM
>>92553367Is there anybody who ever choose to roll?
>>92553300Anon people in 40kg were posting scat porn and arguing over who was gayer. I don't know why you want that shit here too.
>>92553403>Anon people in 40kg were posting scat porn and arguing over who was gayerI didn't though possible for that place to get any worse
>>92553370BEN ARISEARISE BEN
>>92553370
>>92553339Chorfs.If you're unfamiliar with who this guy is, he's like THE leak uy for AoS. 100% track-record so far.Off the top of my head he leaked the FEC refresh -with naming Ushoran and the bat cav, CoS as a whole, and the giga pigs for IJ.
>>92553380Lore Familiar is 1 per army and costs 30 points so you don't have a choice. However you get a quantity of spells equal to the caster's spell level, there's only 6 spells per lore and can pick the signature spell or take a faction lore (assuming you have one) spell of your choosing, so it's not some dumb 7th edition 40k shit where your super special wizard gets to know exactly 1 completely random spell that may or may not be useful.I don't know if I'd call it a "good" system for determining spells, but it's definitely not even close to the worst GW has come up with.
>>92553444Why would he do such a thing?
>>92553460>but it's definitely not even close to the worst GW has come up with.That's absolutely true, but it's not like it's somehow a high bar to clear.
>>925527033e was full of less than 3 artefact/trait/spell lists lmao the basic d6 roll is preferable but 4e has no need for it with wizards knowing the entirety of a chosen lore
>>92553468He's literally the Summoner. It's kind of his whole thing.
>>92553181When they showed the cathay balloons it immediately made me want them for a tempest eye army but that seems far out from now unfortunately
>>92553495>3e was full of less than 3 artefact/trait/spell listsUh. Must have missed it. My armies still have all of them in multiples of 3 so I just assumed they were still doing it. Good news then.
>>92553490That it managed to clear that bar is legitimately to its credit, many editions of many GW games did not manage it.
>>92552703>>92553495The important part is that they put some effort into designing spells that are actually worth casting, however many it is that they make. The game has been full of useless spells, traits and artifacts for too fucking long.
>>92553339he's said some extremely cryptic stuff >(speaking about the possibility of "weird things" incoming)>Oh there is going to be plenty. >Something completely a challenge to logic.
>>92553580>why would I ever pick anything but the meta waacfag option?>no, it's not enough that it's an option they should remove the least optimal ones autism
Say your thing, Settranon
>>92553619No neil
>>92553609>I will defend bad rules by trying to virtue signalApply this logic to everything else. You are now not allowed to complain about the points costs costs, stats or abilities of units relative to other ones, because that's waacfaggotry.
>>92553609Good game design, is when the intended fluffy expirience, correlates with what is "optimal" way to play. If in order to have fun and have fluffy rules you need to shoot yourself in the foot, the game is just bad
>>92553652cry more waacfag
>>92553300It's the awkward period in between editions and they've barely showed us any models what are we supposed to talk about
>>92553696How they're RUINING our GAME.
>>92553283He was stuck in the anvilgard start collecting just like the cogsmith with the greywater box so you'd have to grab him off eBay or something now
>>92553702I dont really care how they are ruinning your 40k, go watch scatorn or whatever you else your kind does for fun
>>92553702I'm not gonna scream and stamp my feet until we have the book and I can actually try everything
do you have todo you have todo you have to let it linger
>>92553717Fish finger
>>92553702eh, we haven't seen anything yet and even then it won't be until battletomes roll out that we'll know how bad it is
>>92553359I've screencapped this and will laugh eternally when they're still in the book.
I'm gonna work on my vulcha tonight. Or will I?
>>92553911Nta and I definitely want them to stay but it seems unlikely given the decisions they've made for 4th so far my cities project is entirely duardin and dark aelves so I'm fucked if they go bye bye
>>92552632>TQOn the one hand, it's a shame it seems that inherent offensive spells are being into a shooting attack like 40k. On the other, it frees up wizards a bit by letting them use those shooting attacks while burning their actual casting resources on more meaningful spells. I like just about everything else that has been said. I'd like to see an example of an Endless Spell profile, though.
Reposting from last thread The way priests and wizards work should be the other way around: wizards should have the spend time channeling magic for more powerful effects, whereas priests should either have the prayer answered or not.
>>92554165I >>92552815 agree.
>>92554048you will. it's a great piece and although i dont really care about kb, I feel like theyre gonna be eating good with the end of orruk warclans
>>92554048I won't
Friendly reminder
>>92553702But the reception to what we've seen so far has generally been pretty positive outside the squatting
I wish they showed them in different stormhosts colors. Any paintshoppers can put them in Anvils of the Heldenhammer and Tempest Lord colors?
Theories on the next warcry Vs box? Khatandron spelunkers Vs rats?
>>92554323You are asking this in like every other thread
>>92553911Believe me, I would rather be wrong. But after the way they bungled BoC after finally giving them solid rules I’m not holding my breath. The non-humans feel like a Bonesplitterz level second thought in the current book. Feels like yet another plan to soften the blow when they guy them entirely
>>92553455Yeah this but the ork big pig was someones he just back him upOh and some guy call Whitefang back me up who sorta has a track record (beacuse he getting stuff second hand) but not as accurate said Cogfort for CoS next edition
>>92554331i want more people to play warcry man
>>92554165there are good arguments for both to work in either wayI guess the most sensible solution would have been to make most spells and most prayers work normally and introduce a different category of shit you can do with wizards and priests, lets call it rituals, that works like the new prayers, representing coordinated efforts to build up power that's either used for big spells, big miracles, or big summoningsthough I'm assuming the points you get from prayers are pooled together for all priests of an army rather than being individually assigned, but is that correct?
>>92554385I agree, but you shouldnt ask the same question every thread
>>92554323LGS owner keeps saying that Warcry is getting reworked for it's 3rd edition, no more AoS releases disguised as warbands because GW wants all their games to be self contained.Basically he says Warcry 3 will be closer to Necromunda or Mordheim, with it's own minis and no overlap with AoS, and that Underworlds is dead.This is a guy who worked at GW for years and has connections there still, and he has been right about stuff before (though not everything)
>>92554337If the behind the scenes rumors are true they definitely want to kick all the Old world kits out but that's no reason to expect they won't get replaced.>>92554449That seems pretty retarded given Kill Team and Warcry are perfect intro games that let people build into the larger ones but being retarded is on brand for GW.
>>92554385I always feel cockblocked by Warcry, the game feels like it's just getting going in turn 4 and then it's over.
>>92554449so they want to make it Warcry 1.0 again?
>>92554490I guess, but probably more narrative driven and with something more universally popular than weirdo chaos dudes.
>>92554385All river temple should wear mask and armour plate.
>>92554449>wants to make warcry its own separate self contained thing>delet all warbands that arent AoS units with fake mustacheWhat did they mean by that?
>>92554469The no doubt about them removing all the WHF kit rumor or not The question is whether or not the interspecies CoS continues with own ne aesthetic or it becomes AoS Imperial guard with it own ogryns and ratlingsThey only thing "safe" would the late 8th non-core race related stuff like Nagash, Thanquol, the blightkings and Khorne
>>92554570people didn't like the chaos guys.If it is indeed reworked and made self contained, I imagine it'll be CoS based.
>>92554597>people didn't like the chaos guysthats just straight up not true
>>92554646I'm sure some did, but plenty of people were put off by the whole aesthetic of warcry 1. Chaos barbarians are not for everyone.
>>92554662Worst thing about early warcry was how broken the non chaos warbands were.
>>92554646I like the chaos guys way more than the shitty shoehorned dark oath ones. Honestly the warycry bands are more appealing, and feel alot better to replace the Norscans with instead of some cringe Hammer&bolter tie in.
>>92552788BASED Kroxigor
>>92554385speaking of warcry, is there any reason to bring the grandspear in soulsworn? it just doesnt seem worth it to trade out the option of an ability for 1 more inch of range when the axe is minus 1 inch but otherwise the same PLUS gets the ability
>>92554165i probably agree with you but im just happy that magic and prayers stayed as actual mechanics unlike in 40k where theyre either just weapon profiles or a very simple ability
How do stormhost work? like how are they organized and how do the different named chambers with different color schemes work?
>>92554766Hoping for the bare minimum isn't a healthy thing for a consumer bro.
>>92554782As far as I understand, everyone was a hammer of sigmar at first, then as Hammers got bigger and overpopulated great heroes were given their own stormhosts and choice of who got to be in them, so they each had different martial priorities and personalities.
Did GW get a new top level guy or something why is seemingly everything changing with this company
>>92554816its always been changing, you are only noticing it now is the difference.
>>92554782https://ageofsigmar.fandom.com/wiki/Stormhost
>>92554782>>92554843Forgot to add, that this is up to 2/3e. The image is kinda old. It'll probably be updated with 4e.
>>92554816I keep hearing (here and elsewhere) that people from TCG's and american business types have been brought in.
>>92554782Stormhost>The entire legion of SE often having a common trait such as the Hallow knight being forged from the souls of paragons and holymen or astral Templars from Barbarian and hunter gatherers. They have their own color and their own Lord Commander who oversee their entire legion. Bastian is the only Lord Commander with a model but there are other like Shining lord for the Knight Excelsior and the Golden Patriarch for the Celestial WarbringerChamber>Specialist group that are train for a certain warfare- like Vanguard for manhunting and scouting, Angelos arial combat, Sacrosanct magic, Extremism dragons ect ect Conclave>squadsTheir also the Inner circle of sigmar who above the entire SEC command which includes Celestial Prime, Yndrasta, the dragon twins and possibly Ionus now. The peak authority since they can literally talk to Sigmar in person and carry his word
>>92554323>These are some of Nagash’s most pitiable creations, twisted bone constructs wrought out of spite and flung out to range the wilds. Each cohort is led by a Kavalos Centari, the humiliating fusion of a Liege-Kavalos and their former steed, and herded by Mortek Cykloptians whose humanoid silhouette conceals a warped, bestial mind. Teratic Prowlers are debased hunting beasts crafted from failed Mortek soldiers, while winged Aviarch Harpies are sculpted for lethality and self-loathing.Wouldn't centaurs, the rider and mount being fused into one, be more useful for Nagash?Like, why have bone golem horses and riders as separate beings? It would be easier to have knights with horse lower bodies than a zeitgeist of knighst rinding on top of a zeitgeist of war horses
>>92555215>Wouldn't centaurs, the rider and mount being fused into one, be more useful for Nagash?I don't think he's the one handcrafting these things.
>>92555215If anything, you'd think the centaur would be treated more like a boneshaper's prized work.
>>92555302I guess the downside of grafting souls out of history's greatest warriors is that they get offended by the idea of getting turned into a horse.
>>92554385>i want more people to play warcry manIt's my main game these days, played a co-op homebrew at a convention last weekend and my local league is picking up. Warcry is loads of fun. My only wish is that they leaned into the wacky narrative scenarios more like they did back in 1st edition with the challenge battles. The one where you attend a ghoul kings feast as guests before things turn ugly was my favorite. Next time I go to a con I'm thinking I'll run the endless tide of chaos scenario too.
>>92555215should have been a nuckelavee shape; centaurs are overdone
>>92552632Soon
>>92555427There's probably one or two who are silently like "yeeees that's my fetish"
>>92553580All I know is that 3E massively reduced the number of traits, spells and artifacts available, and the ratio of useless to usable options remained exactly the same or possibly even worse. Writing less options clearly did not improve their balancing capability on any level.
>>92553455>>92553597Thanks guys; patiently awaiting manletts and fresh rats. This drip feed for reveals I've been waiting for for ages is painful.
>>92555582I think you just made me hate the faction now.
>>92554813No that's not how it works. It's just that Hammers of Sigmar where the literal first Stormhost that were deployed from Azyr, they were the vanguard. But they were very quickly followed up by the various other major stormhosts, even just a couple books into the Realmgatewars.
>>92554816Top level, no. But AoS has had a new lead rules guy since basically the start of 3E. (he would not have written the core rules and early battletomes, mind you, but he joined the company at that time.) And yeah he has a video game background or some shit.
>>92553455Great to know that chuardin are coming, but it's too bad they won't be in a vs. box with skaven, which is my most-wanted box matchup of all time.
>>92555720who do you think's gunna come in from the top rope to reset the status quo (of sorts) and put down the rats?
>>92553597And it looks like there's no end to Be'lakor's assault on Chamo- BY GOD IT'S VASHTORR WITH A STEEL CHAIR
>>92555755Gitz
So when a stormcast dies, what exactly happens to their body? Does it disappear or is it left to rot? I imagine chaos can do some nefarious shit with a leftover corpse.
>>92555808It explodes in a burst of lightning, there's even a rule where you can roll to see if a stormcast takes an enemy down with him when he dies.
>>92555808They turn into lighting and blast back to Azyrheim to await reforging, if possible.
>>92555215>Wouldn't centaurs, the rider and mount being fused into one, be more useful for Nagash?>Like, why have bone golem horses and riders as separate beings?Kavalos mounts aren't always simple-minded beasts. Many have their own sort of intelligence, and some are even disgraced riders.Beyond that foot soldiers can reach some areas far easier than mounted ones, so it counts to give them the ability to dismount.
>>92555818>>92555892That's pretty metal. I should look into SCE more.
>>92555215Why would you want your soul merged with a horse
>>92556197A few more bits, every reforging they lose their humanity more and more. Eventually becoming cold and unfeeling. And that's only if they can still be reforged as its possible every time they fall the odds it will be their last grows.
>>92556197A lot of SCE is metal and calls to Greek myth. Like their weapons are forged from living storms which were named in the 1E tome idk if it still comes up that kinda shit.I wish we got more info about how the reforging, training, and sorting into stormhosts goes. We didn’t get a description of the process until the soul wars novel. It’s pretty wild
>Down below, a soul erupted from the Anvil, rising above it in a crackling halo of lightning and starlight. Silence fell as the lords-arcanum watched. Balthas stepped to the edge of the platform, intrigued despite himself. Though he had witnessed the rites of reforging many times, they remained fascinating. >To his storm-sight, all souls were marked by a residue of the last realm they’d been in. This one was stained with a dark purple miasma, which clung to it despite the trials it had endured. The Realm of Death. He felt a flicker of unease. Something was wrong with the soul’s aura– as if more than just its flesh had been injured. >The fires of creation roared upwards from the Anvil, engulfing the soul. It began to scream, and in the twisting flames, Balthas saw the memories of the warrior it had once been. Most were scenes from the warrior’s final moments, but others were of a more personal nature– tattered recollections from a mortal life. The faces of kith and kin, the smell of walled gardens and the rustle of branches in a sea-wind, rising from the fire, like smoke. “The pieces of who they had been, before they had been burdened with glorious purpose. >Miska and the other mage-sacristans began to sing. Their voices split, overlapped and wound back, each singer a choir unto themselves. The chamber resonated with the song of the spheres, and the desperate thrashing of the soul calmed. There was a crash of twelve thunders, and something dark formed upon the altar. The soul contracted as motes grew within it, spreading outwards, like oil on water.
>Balthas watched as a new body was formed from a seed of starlight and lightning. A web of newborn veins and nerve endings sprouted within the coruscating shell of energy, spreading outwards through the man-shape. Pieces of bone blossomed, spread and lengthened, as vestigial organs swelled to maturity. >Through it all, the mage-sacristans sang the song of creation, their voices serving to shape the being before them. The soul began to writhe as it was clothed once more in flesh, and the pain of rebirth became more visceral– blood suddenly pumped through darkening arteries, as coils of intestine grew and slabs of muscle and fat sheathed bone. >As newly grown lungs inflated for the first time, a scream of rebirth burst from the mouth of the reforged warrior. For a moment, he stood upon the altar, wreathed in smoke. Then, as the echoes of his scream faded, he toppled. Celestors raced forwards, to drag the insensate warrior away. Even as they hauled him clear, the air above the altar was crackling anew. Another soul, another splash of half-formed images forming and burning away, as Balthas watched. Some of those memories would be lost forever.>To be reforged upon the Anvil was as traumatic an experience as it was transcendent. As the soul was broken down and rebuilt, it could lose part of itself in the process. Sometimes this loss was but a small thing– a memory, a name– other times, it was more drastic a sacrifice. Warriors came back… changed. Still loyal, still powerful, but lacking something.
>GW makes empowered female army to appeal to women.>No women play it, only femdom appreciators do>GW have factions that have rape as part of their theme>Women only play these armiesWhat did they mean by this?
>>92555808You can see this visualized for a brief moment in the 4e trailer. A skaven sniper kills one of the flying SCE coming from above.
>>92556449GSG don't rape
>>92556449I uh, I dont see the femdom appeal for GSG. Did you mean DOK?
>>92556243>>92556254>>92556299>>92556309yeah I think it's time to finally do a fluff/ lore dive on them. thanks guys
>>92554449It'd be weird to kill underworlds when it's actually doing well for itself after they nearly fucking wiped it out with harrowdeep launch.
>>92556449There is a zero percent chance DoK was meant as an "empowered female" army to appeal to women.
>>92556555Is it doing well? Both game stores near me almost stopped carrying it entirely because it never sells. They get in one box of whatever is new I think because GW forces them to do so, but it just sits in a corner and never sells. Never ever seen anyone play it either. I swear the only people that buy it want to proxy the models and they whip the cards into the trash
>>92556612The only people I see buy WHU stuff these days are Warcry folks because a few of them are really good in that game.
>>92556612Bummer honestly, that's kinda what I started with but honestly it's a pretty fun game once you get someone to sit down with and knock out some rounds with.Minis are cool too, but you can just buy it for those desu and be happy. >>92556621I keep hearing that and realizing I need to get to work on my collection and actually give it a shot.
>>92556449Literally none of the factions have rape being even tangentially related, that's just your schizo fever dream
>>92556664Skaven still have broodmothers Beastmen exist(ed) DOK is still DOKIm sure slaanesh asks for consentIm sure there is some hypnosis ugly bastard plot line for FEC somewhere
>>92554843>>92554851i hope they make it clearer in 4th ed because its kinda confusing and hard to make comparisons to space marines yet still being tantalizingly close, either make its more clear like space marine chapters or make them clear in a different way
>>92556681>Skaven still have broodmothersThey consented
>>92556681post a lore bit in any AoS battletome that mentions rape.
>>92554385My elf box just shipped so I'm pretty hyped for it. I like elves but AoS ones just don't vibe with me at all but the ones in this box look pretty cool.
>>92556805>liking elvesplease leave
>>92556750redclaw of ruin mentions the sex slaves, look up covens of blood.
>>92556841Post battletome screencap or its irrelevant
>>92556845Why are we limiting ourselves to the battletomes?
>>92556841post them then? Masturbate before posting schizo
>>92555215>wouldn't being a freak excluded from society outside of combat be better than being just a guy?
>>92553212as an ogre player i don't want him. i just want plastic generic characters.
>>92556855Because every other product by the company aside from codexes and models are made exclusively for schizophrenics and spergs. The codexes are purchased by semi normal people for the most part
>>92557067Nta but nagash loves making your second life as an undead as awkward and shitty as possible. It's kind of his deal
>>92557414>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying battletomes/codexes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Being a loreletI can understand your pov if it was 40k where you got shit like mike brooks, but most authors for AOS dont try to implement their dogshit ideologies into the setting. The ones that are truly shit are very up in their face about it, I guess the only exception to it are some of the Gortrek books.
how do you use these little shits? what is their purpose? do you basically have to pair a unit of hunters and chargers? chargers go in while hunters essentially get to shoot twice in a turn? the chargers damage bonus seems ludicrously situationali wouldnt call them expensive but at 150/5 they're not exactly cheap either and it seems like you need to field them in pairs to play off each other so 300pts for 10 guys with 5+ saves but they dont seem to have any hit and run or run and charge style rules so they're kinda slower than a lot of other skirmishy light cav in the game
>>92552632>Thoughts on new magic?Will it be possible to build just wizards list? Something like Alarielle,lady of vines and three treelord ancients? Or 2 Vangarian Lords and 3 VLoZDs go into town? No objective play, just summon casting and blasting.
>>92557453How many tranny orcs in that one?
>>92557489if you dont care about your opponent getting shit like extra command points and choice of drop, then yeah.
>>92557453>I just think it's super cool and normal to read 300-500 pages of Manncrash Fistpunches crusade against the forces of Kickskull SpinningbackfistYou are either retarded or 9 years old and are exactly what I was talking about here >>92557414
>>92557453I'm morbidly curious now, but lets just leave it there.>>92557489>>92557489We have no clue. Several factions from skaven to almost every flavor of elf is wondering what's going to happen to them and other armies that rely on multiple lore and/or repeated casting of the same spell. Best hope seems to be that they'll take the staple spell and just slap it on a warscroll.
>>92557426the best rivalry/ conflict games workshop has is skeletor vs rats and I will die on that hill.
>>92557453pol brainrot
>>92557534>or 9 years oldMy good friend, you in an anonymous board where we like to paint up toys, push them across a board and do this over the course of 2-3 hours a day. I dont think the baseline for this hobby is what we can consider normal. Also fuck you bolter/hammer porn is fun to read. >>92557551I don't like something thats so out of place in media, Brooks genuinely doesn't know how to make his works organic at all and I tried reading the lion book and its just off. That being said I do hate trannies and political ideologies in general.
Posted this in 40K too, think it's relevant here.Going through with my Godzilla-inspired Chaos army. Since I have no experience painting miniatures I've been watching every tutorial/painting technique YT vid I can find while waiting for Vallejo Dark Earth to get here from the other side of the world. Starting with 10 bloodletters, one at a time for trial-and-error purposes. Just assembled the first.Any advice/suggestions is appreciated.>Black primer>Skin- vallejo dark earth, washed with agrax earshade and drybrushed with celestra grey>Horns/Sword/Teeth/Nails- Wraithbone base, mix Skeleton Horde and technical contrast medium, paint over.>Mouth/tounge/dorsal- Basecoat white scar, blend frostheart blue, thicker towards the tip
>>92557589Dunno what kind of advice you want, you seem to have a plan.
>>92557584Read >>92557414 again>seminormal Also>fuck you bolter/hammer porn is fun to readMaybe if you're 9 or have a mental deficiency
>>92557614Basically if anyone more experienced notices any glaring flaws in my plan or has particular suggestions on how to achieve a Godzilla-type look. I put the plan together after a lot of research, but I have little painting experience.>Validation is also appreciated, thanks
>>92557589>Wraithbone base on black primer lol
>>92557625nigger half of painting is trial and error. the fact you realize you need to practice with your mixes, brushwork, etc is already more than most have going in. if you want another piece of advise thin your paints and paint lite. it's easier to do new coats to darken or intensify color than it is to go the other way.also yellow, orange, and to a degree white are all satans pigments.
>>92557637>>92557643Also to add on, yeah, light colors over a dark prime is not wise nor is dark colors over a white prime. If you're doing extreme lights and darks and don't want to fuck with a dozen different layers, try grey for a base,
>>92557615I dont know how you can get into these settings and drop $500+ without caring about the books man. I get the battle tomes do provide some context to an army but usually you would want to see that expanded. You actually have to be tapped if you engage with this setting beyond solely painting.
>>92557657>>92557637I'm hoping to achieve an old decaying bone effect, like the sword was made out of a giant tooth or something. Would the black primer make it totally undoable if I do enough thin layers?
>>92557662nta, I don't read the books because people who are deep into that shit tend to tell me they're very poorly written and that the only listen to them while painting or driving to work.I read the fluff in my tome, maybe some short stories, maybe browse a wiki if I hear anyone bring up shit I don't know since GW love forgetting huge chunks of lore or writting new content in tomes. Hell, sell the tomes and fluff separately then I may actually buy one or the other instead of just getting shit of waha because fuck you james I'm not paying $60 for a book that's wrong before it's even shipped.
>>92557686anything is possible, but you might be losing a notable amount of detail that way. Work inverse. Paint it bone and then rough it up afterwards rather than trying to build it dirty at the start.~t. nurglefag
>>92557534>You are either retarded or 9 years oldWe are spending hundreds and hundreds on dollars to paint tiny toys and you insult people that enjoy reading some action books about those toys? You are the only retarded one there, mr. Fun police.
>>92557584Brainlet
>>92557803Fair, I am retarded.
>>92557481the intended chargers/hunters combo doesn't do enough to be useful.what these guys are is very fast, pretty cheap and fairly high damage, they die to a breeze but that's fine.I like to take 4 units in starborne, I never take more than one in coalesced.
>>92557481>>92557829I realized I didn't actually mention how to play raptadonsI use them as rearfield screens, and if that turns out not to be needed I'll rush forward in round 2+ and slam them into anything the opponent has on objectives( only one unit at a time unless my plan is for one to die to protect something else)that's it, they aren't my main strategy (that would be mass spellcasting mortals) but they are useful, and if they get killed then the opponent isn't killing my really important stuff.
>>92557781>I need to read 500 pages of capeshit garbage to paint my toy spaceman green and put a skull on his belt. Bro if you have any reasoning for modeling your guys a certain way beyond the inital concept that you think it looks cool you are an actual child.
>>92557852Not him, don't read the books, but do you actually think the modeling part of the hobby somehow isn't cringe? You're looking down on people for being chest-deep in a pool of shit while you're waist-deep.
Contents: 20x Darkoath Marauders 5x Darkoath Fellriders 1x Chieftain on Warsteed 1x Wilderfiend 1x Battletome Supplement: Darkoath>1x Battletome
Damn the Darkoath set sold out instantly on the sites I usually use. I had to buy direct from GW.
>>92557880I think it’s reasonable value although obviously the strong Darkoath list is going to need like 12 Wilderfiends.
>>92557879I think it's significantly less cringe than spending 100s of hours painting something a certain way because a multimillion dollar company told you the Smashing Thunderpunchers are the coolest
>>92557891I'm laughing at the suckers getting an end-of-edition battletome
>>92557662Not that guy, but I mostly ignore lore and have read exactly one whole warhammer book.I just find that anything I've got in my own head for /mydudes/ is more interesting to me than anything from a book.It's part of the reason why I like AoS more than 40k, 40k lore is so well known and overbearing and many of it's model ranges so very specific that I find they lack artistic freedom.This is the problem I have with the new cities of sigmar, you can paint them any color but they are still dingy unhealthy looking people with skulls all over, very much fantasy cadians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PWkKvxckw
>>92557897I don’t care about that, I just want the models.
>>92557686bone paints actually have pretty good coverage, it's the pure yellows or oranges or whites that are the problem. with that being said it's still doable, just a little annoying.
>>92557852>wahhh this form of media is capeshit because I cant fathom world building or how and why my army functions on the table top! >>92557880its pretty bad yeah, I miss the Norscans.
>>92557880>>92557897It's a suplemnt, not an actual tome
>>92557926>I'm mentally superior because I read 500 pages of masturbation about how the red ones are more tactical than the blue ones
>>92554313>AnvilsSure anon, here you go.
>>92557953box is same price as the CoS and FEC ones though, and those came with proper battletomes
>>92557686Black primer makes it very tough to layer over with brighter tones to a point of frustration. There are some bone and midtone greys in the citadel line like rakarth flesh and mechanicus standard grey that have great coverage and act as an easy in-between step before layering over them with an offwhite. I find going from black to wraithbone directly might take me 4-6 super thin coats of wraithbone to get solid coverage whereas 1 heavy coat of rakarth flesh and 1-2 coats of wraithbone gets me to the same point and takes less fiddling
>>92557981COS came with 2 small heroes on foot, while this comes with a mounted hero and a big creture thing, so it's not 1:1
I like red.
>>92558009Silver, red and gold stormcast are kino
>>92557902>I just find that anything I've got in my own head for /mydudes/ is more interesting to me than anything from a book.Well I can respect that, personally I think grounding your army makes more sense in the mortal realms because of the developing story-lines in AOS, and writing around that stuff could be interesting. You can also very easily make an argument that the developments in the setting makes /yourdudes/ being hard to do as well, which I could also understand. >>92557961>Wojack postingKnow you are no better than those 40k fags that play games months on end with the same grey models with not a hint of progress on them.
>going straight to paint tests on models when you have sprues of the exact same material
>>92557881It's still on Wayland Games, and Element Games, and Goblin Games. Given such boxes usually sell out instantly and the volume trying to buy crashes the server, I think it's probably selling like shit.
The anime hair is so awful holy shit savagers look so much better
>>92558181you know, all of this would make more sense if the sigmarites too couldn't invoke miracles and the intervention of god-blessed warriors on the regular
>>92558192>warcry bands died for this
>>92558192I have a scheme all set for my darkoath, but I honestly like those colors a lot
>>92558192I can't believe this is what warhammer has been reduced to.
Guises of the Dark Gods named in the Darkoath supp>Kalkor the Red Scorpion>The Blood Crow>The Thrice-hanged One>The Pale Elk>Saal-Tesh of the Pit>Kursk the Raging Hound>The Bringer of Joy>The Thousandfold One>Flyblown Morghush>The Shadow-in-the-Moon>Kalul the Lurker>They-Who-Lurk-in-Darkness
>>92558278Weird to have a "Blood Crow" when we already have the Great Gatherer that it's also a Crow
What are the odds of darkoath having good rules in 4th?
>>92558167Goblin Games sold out as I was in the checkout at 20
>>92558284different tribe, different myth
>>92558292even if they are good, wont make up for the fact they murdered the warcry bands.
>>92558278>>The Pale ElkCool.
>>92558307Which one would the pale Elk be? My guess is Slaanesh.>tfw a giant white elk emerges from the forest and tells you to do drugs.
>>92558307Thats a moose
>>92558278>They-Who-Lurk-in-Darknesssecondaries
>>92558306I never bought the Warcry bands because they had terrible rules in AoS 2e.
>>92558278>Kalul the LurkerHe’s reading the thread right now
>Maugur the TOW ShitposterInteresting name for a darkoath champion.
The horsemen are actually good and if they retain current rules in 4e you will want 2-3 units in most STD armies I think. The plebs are just worse chaff than Warcry warbands for as long as the latter stick around, and probably just worse than Savagers in general.
>>92558306It’s stupid and it sucks, but between the Legionnaires and marauders I think most warbands can be proxies for stuff that’s keeping its rules, without too much effort
>>92558202I mean that’s true but it’s less accessible. Maybe your local pastor can manifest a minor miracle, but your average hammerhalian can’t offer something up to Sigmar and be rewarded immediately for it like a Darkoath can.
>>92558473Post rules or shut the fuck up
>>92558611why rules? shit is getting changed in a few months anywaypost FLUFF instead!
>>92558181>these were our lands we invited the chaos gods tooLolLmao
>>9255861112” move 2 wounds 5+ save -1 to be hit outside 12” and only unleash hell’d on 6s to hit. Either 3 attacks 3/4/-1/1 or 2 attacks 4/4/-1/1 and a 12” ranged attack 4/4/-1/D3. Horses have 2 attacks 4/4/1/1 too. Go to rend -2 after you charge with them. 125 for 5.
>>92558871we wuz kings and such
>>92558192>anime hairThat looks like generic barbarian hairWhat’s with this general and hair? It’s a simple green stuff or head swap you always hear complaining about hair here
I would like to try the hobby, but more for the painting and modelling aspect than gaming, not that I would like to try playing too, but I am not very competitive and prefer comfortable non-confrontational interactions, even in video games I like co-op more than pvp. What army would you recommend to me, if I like the "centerpiece" models and would like to have baseline with some variety, not just horde of 50 same models? Ideally I would like kits that allow you to be playeful and customize a bit your models, and I would like to start with only a few models, to find out whether I really enjoy it, and not spend $500 on a whole army of models from the start.
>>92558871FUCK civilisation.
>>92558915Sylvaneth are reasonably cheap to play and have similar themed but different looking kinds of models.
If the gods wanted us to have indoor plumbing they would have mutated the children I sacrificed to them into pipes.
>>92558915Okay so the answer here is Maggotkin, buy up a box of Nurglings and see if you like the idea of painting something that small. Did you like it? Buy two vanguards, not at the same time though, just buy the first box and work that one out. You can customize the blight kings by a bit. And your center piece model? the glottkin. All of that together should cost you less than $400, even with taxes so long as you buy from a third party store that gives a discount.
>>92558936They are definitely one of the options I was looking at - like the stuff from their vanguard box has three kits that can be build different ways, the revenant can be the angry little trees or the weapon wielding tree elves, the small ents can carry scythes, bows or sword and the big tree has three versions, so I think it might be fun to start with them (plus they have really great bug raiding models). I also like the basic box of Seraphon (the colorful dinosaurs look so amazing and they look like they have so many dinosaur species), Nurgle (ugly, but adorably ugly, also have amazing big models like Glottkin and Rotigus), Slaanesh (Slaangor fiends in the basic box look good and have great looking centerpieces with Dexcessa and keeper of secrets) and Idoneth Deepkin (shark and turtles themes). So I am not decided, but Sylvaneth are definitely one of the armies that I am looking into, just want to make sure they really are one of the more hobby oriented armies. And that there isn't any obvious choice I am overlooking.
>>92558915Sylvaneth have great models and are easy to paint.
>>92558936>Sylvaneth are reasonably cheap to play
>>92558875That's decent chaff clearing profile.
>>92559016That is another option I was looking into. Glottkin looks so good and Rotigus too. And the little nurglings all over the models are so cute. And yeah, I would like to start with big, so one kit or one starting box is probably what I will purchase first, with a lot of colours and brushes.
>>92558915If you want to not spend a lot of money before finding out if you like it, why do you want centerpiece models, which can easily be 100 to 170 per.Just look at the armies, choose the one you like the looks of the most, buy a single kit of their 'big guys' (3 to 4 dudes, will probably be 60 to 70 bucks). If you enjoy painting them consider getting centerpieces or whatever the fuck.Real talk if you don't want to PLAY and just want to paint just look for cool 3d printable STLs. Much much cheaper
>>92558871>Be tribes of Ghur >get asskicked by Greenskins after Gorkamorka tards out>sigmar too busy with 90 million other crisis>turn to the literal talking shadows on cave painting >start kicking greenskins ass>double down on dealing with spooks>start Ghur age of chaos after ass blasting the greenskins>”AAAAHHHHHHH SIGMAR HELP ME”
>>92559013must be a regional thing that's pretty common in northern chamon
>>92558915the first and last question is always which army you find the coolestin any case you want lizardmen
>>92559068>>get asskicked by Greenskinsfound your problem: you're weak as shit
>>92559020To be honest I don’t feel any of GW’s modern kits are super hobby friendly. A lot of it is complex monobuilding. Nurgle would be a good alternate option to Sylvaneth if you like their models though. I bought the Harbringer just because I like the model so much. I don’t know enough about Lizardmen or IDK or Slaanesh.>>92559027This is true, Wildwoods will add to the expense and you need them.
>>92559029They have very easy access to +1 to wound so I think they’re pretty cheap for effectively 3 attacks each 3/3/-2/1. I also like idea of using them to clear out some chaff then just harassing with the rend 2 damage D3 javelins for the rest of the game.
>>92559121I wouldn't say that it is a very easy access to +1 to wound, if you are talking about the new hero. He needs to get in melee and fight first, with his profile is a quick way to get himself killed.
>>92559137All darkoath are undivided so +1 wound CA and the intention is obviously that you combo that guy’s rule with the fight first bubble on the wilderfiend.
>>92559149+1 to wound only vs heroes and monster
>>92559160Oh damn, that’s awful. RIP
>>92559149>All darkoath are undividedone day you won't have access marks at all in the std bookevery stdfag will be undivided under archaon or undivided under belakor
>>92559121> easy accessYeah no the hero isn't good
>>92558192Better than nothing but bald or top-knots
>>92559187Not that big of a deal, they don't need that +1 to work. I like those scrolls, very appropriate for some barbarians
>>92559213Maybe, it’s definitely something I’ve contemplated too. But I think marks will remain the iconic faction ability as they do in 40k.
>>92559283The sculpts are nice, the rules don't really matter (yet)It's stupid they are released this late into the edition
>>92559086>we got kairic acolytes instead of this
>>92558915unless you are a greytide nigger, the hobby is like 80% about painting or modeling already
>>92558915Look through the webstore and buy whatever you like the look of. Plenty of people would entertain a narrative co-op scenario and especially at lower levels of play tbhon
>>92559111>Be elves >start Hysh age of chaos
22 April : skaven model29 April : SE model6 May : skaven modelweek 16-19 May : full box revealso what we think they show off for Monday and the weeks after
>>92559492If they didn’t release now it would probably be a year or more.
>>92559492>yet July release, August/September mass adoption because drastic changes and purchase invalidation. That's plenty of time for them to matter
>>92559723>still one month until we see all modelsFuck GW.
How are we feeling about endless spells being free now? I'm not seeing a lot of discussion on it, but it seems crazy to me. I love endless spells, but I really hope they lower the spell limit for armies. A game with 6 endless spells on the table would be insane.
>>92558322>follow me, you gotta try that weed I found in the forest.
>>92558167My usual shop, myhobbyplace was still in stock an hour ago.I think they overproduced it, thinking wfb players would snipe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
>>92558210What you got in mind? Been trying out an idea on a Chieftain, gonna dull down the gold and red but generally this is what I wanna do
>>92560407>Chieftain Simmons
>>92560316No, AoS stuff usually doesn’t sell out super quick.
Are they combining all weapon options into one profile for 4e? Please say yes.
>>92560219>A game with 6 endless spells on the table would befucking awesome
>>92560498Probably not for everything. Grundstok Thunderers and Stormfiends and other units like that are absolutely keeping their different weapons.
>>92560219For me it’s one of those things where I can’t decide on how it will be until we see it in action. There could be limits on how many spells you could have in play at once and we already know you’re locked into certain groupings of spells, so you can’t really mix and match themIf anything though I think this is the best time to finally finish releasing endless spells/invocations for all the armies that are still missing them. Short of maybe Kharadron Overlords and Sons of Behemat, every army should get a set of endless spells
>>92560498Some, Liberators lost options but the Thunderstrike Chariot and Kroxigors kept theirs (just one option each though). >>92560615I seriously doubt it, the warscroll for thunderers isn't fitting on a card and even abstracting them to abilities is odd because most warscrolls have only had one
>>92560219They're not really free as it depends upon the lore choice. Little odd they were a separate mechanic prior because the choice and cv determines the strength anyway Idk GW have handled them poorly since they first came out. At least new ones won't be China moulds thereafter and will hopefully have more effort than copy pasting assets
40k 10th had insane hype. How come aos 4th seems dead in the water with zero hype?
>>92558192A few of these look distinctly like cosplayers rather than actual barbarians to me.
>>92558192>knee guards Bloodbowl barbarians
>>9256078810th happened, the index were shit, all the codex, but one are worse.+squatting everything from the partwork collection as a big fuck you. Because there's now so much in the 2nd hand market it can't sell. If it's in the hachette collection, there's a squatting risk.
>>9256078840k has always had more traction but 3e was the low point for AoS and newbs aren't interested in the rules speculation and drawn out discussion of miniscule changes
>>92560498Libbies lost dual weapons FOR NOW, there is a large chance that it's like literally every other new edition thing where they preview the rules as they appear in the starter box which are shrimplified compared to the real ones. Everyone else shown so far has kept their full loadout.
>>92560886I don’t really get the 3e low point thing.
>>92560658Together with universal special rules for weapons, it will deifnetly fit. but personally i would prefer if tunderers were 1 special weapon per 5 guys unit
>>92560886Dominion was the best selling fantasy starter set in history retard. Aos is at its peak and well on its way to outselling 40k in 4th
>>92560923Mate, with all respect, no.
>>92560912it keeps getting brought up but not backed up, I'm assuming falseflag
>>92560912Every lgs manager has cited 2e as the peak and 3e the lowest
>>92560923Obvious falseflag is obvious.
>>92560962nah, Rob's sources say aos grew 70% percent during 3rd ed, GW's own report says they sold way more dominion boxes than any other fantasy starter beforethe perceived dissatisfaction for dominion has to do with the fact retailers got duped into panic-buying as many copies as possible because they feared there was going to be shortage like with indomitusand the starter set is also weirdly unappealing for repeated purchases or for rules purposes, so there's that adding to the zeitgeist
>>92561021>Rob lmao
>>92561043unfortunately we don't have many other sources
>>92560962you have talked to zero lgs managers.
>>92561021I think sales wise 3E definitely grew. At the same time, I also think some of the core rules changes (battle tactics, etc) combined with the constant flood of balance updates and huge GHB changes twice a year burned out a lot of AoS casuals from even bothering to keep up with the rules. You can see it even in this generals history, people gradually just stopped even talking about rules 90% of the time. People went from complaining about how OP every new battletome is to just not giving a shit and talking about models, hobbying, or lore instead.
>>92561047imagine thinking aos actually declined during the period where almost all of the popular core armies finally got model updates.
>>92560407It seems we're of similar minds brother!
>>92560399Where'd you get that picture? I didn't see a community article about darkoath paintjobs?>that songI remember growing up with that song and a hundred other ones on the radio, but I didn't speak english at the time. Weird to hear them now and understand them.
>>92561177twitter
>>92560962From a player perspective, I think 3e was way better than 2e to play in.
oh no no no
>>92561204>games routinely end on turn 2 thanks to battle tactics and secondary objectives >cancerous tcg meta shift every GHB
>>92561213While that is very cool it's also a bit sad. It's gonna be a while before it stops being sad.
Monday.
>>92561229games end on turn 2 because of damage, tactics extend games that otherwise wouldn't.
>>92561249I could have told you that.
>>92561229The GHBs have been fun. And games ended that fast in 2e too.
>>92561213There was no reason to take beasts away from AoS, retarded call.
>>92561258There’s people who are still clueless about the news cycle and screech about it all day.
>>92560915I never understood why Thunderers are outfitted like a 40k unitWhy are the regular rifles even in the kit when there's no points values for wargear
>>92561291rifles have longer range, its not non-viable to run full rifles.
>>92561188Seems like a good kit.>>92561213That's one way to survive I guess. Looks good too.
>>92560923You went too far.
>>92561282Especially if they end up putting half the kits on sale again with the old world at some point anyway. It's all stupid fucking backroom politics because GW and forge world have to compete for their own budgets and it's fucking retarded.
>>92561291>I never understood why Thunderers are outfitted like a 40k unitProbably to represent they are higher tech?
>>92561435No I meant like how they can be built without their special weapons, like how a 40k kit would have a bunch of bolters or lasguns or whatever default weapon along with the special/heavy weapons even if the squad would always be equipped with the latter normallyBut >>92561316 explained it
>>92561316I would say if they sit in a boat, all rifles + mortar is a superior option, while all specials are for the shit stompers
>should probably just buy two Darkoath boxes>don’t want to drop that much money at once>know I’m going to be paying a premium laterNot sure I really want more Marauders or a second horse chieftain. I just want a second Wilderfiend and more Fellriders
>>92561579Just buy those later. I thought the same as you and still only bought 1 box. I figure once they release normally there will probably be some excess individual models to pick up on ebay.
>>92561611That box doesn't look like a crazy discount to me anyway. Like maybe it maths out to the chieftain is extra.
>>92561640If you get it at a third party which does a discount I think it's pretty good. Otherwise I agree: 35 + 35 + 35 then depends on the price of the chieftain and wilderfiend.Honestly I buy all the multiboxes for my army and basically no single kits and that's how I've collected an entire StD army. I'll buy the upcoming character one too. The only thing I really need to buy already is Belakor but I'll probably still wait for the next Christmas boxes before I do.
I like this. Mark Holmes(?) did a good job on it.
>>92561675>tfw you hear someone talking about roads
I'm just a little surprised that these guys didn't get rules with the other Darkoath dudes. Just a little.
>>92561706>tfw when a fancy-looking stranger suggests infant mortality could be lower, not higher
>>92561706>What have the Sigmarites ever done for us?>They built the aqueduct.>That's already one too many!
>>92561712I hope the Darkoath stuff actually fucks in 4e. It seems a little half-hearted right now. They didn't come out and give the Darkoath Chieftain, Chieftess or Savagers any balls in the 3rd edition tome and these guys are coming too late to do anything with. Revise Ravagers into the Darkoath subfaction and give some cross-synergy with the iconic Chaos units and I'll be into it. Could be as simply as giving your Warriors, Knights, Varanguard etc <DARKOATH> tags in that subfaction.
>>92561723>CLEAN WATER?>CLEAN, RELIABLE WATER?!>...yes?>KILL THIS INFIDEL IMMEDIATELY!
>>92561717This apparently comes up. Because the Darkoath tribes are a bunch of murderhobos there's not a great deal of trust between most of them. But familial bonds are as strong as in any other culture. Consequently they're also one of the most valuable things one might sacrifice to fulfill an oath. Because the tribesmen know the gods get off on watching them suffer, so what might start as ritual scarring might turn into self-mutilation and eventually into feeding firstborn to wilderfiends.
I imagine all darkoath as the martian law episode of Sealab.
>>92561737If nothing else I like the gimmick of the rules telling you to make risky tactical decisions in order to power up the army.>Revise Ravagers into the Darkoath subfactionMight be where it's going.
>>9256173710 cav with broadswords and +1 to wound would be quite good with universal 3" reach.
>>92561803Seems like they probably wanted to bring all this together earlier?
are skinks just something you take like 10 at a time for cheap objective holders and screening or are they something you can actually build around with large units or like the new chameleon skink kit?
>>92561972I've seen people flood the board with skinks but idk how viable it still is
>>92557966Fucking nice thanks
>>92561972there's never been a time when skinks weren't useful one way or another
>>92557481if you have them lined up horizontally, they make a good screen around your main castle if you're playing with kroak/guard/squishy heroes
>>92561579buy 2 boxes. dont buy anything else until you paint everything or get rid of the second box
>>92561579look at the FEC spearhead, they'll get repacked in one just like their army box kits were
>>92554313It really annoys me that they shoved mortals into that kit, I really hope they don't do it for any of the rest
>>92561579Don't forget that part of the "value" of that box is a book that is essentially worthless
Feels weird that they're not gonna be part of the game even though all the models will be in production and available to purchase. I don't know if that's ever going to stop feeling weird.
>>92562363It's not like the new prosecutors can carry some
>>92562406I can only hope the same for bonesplitterz
>>92562406The troggoth hag is the most ridiculous one since we had that model longer than fantasy did, it still fits the army just fine and is now being sold again after being discontinued for only like a year
>>92562448It really doesn't. It has that messy handsculpted look as opposed to the clean cad look that aos minis have
>x2 VLOZD>x4 blood knights>X1 direwolvesBad time? Good time?
Bring it back cowards
>>92562575Troggoth Hag never Colossal Squig never Squig Gobba never it's over, they're just for ToW now with no plastic remake in sight
>>92562448We should get a troggoth wizard at some point. Have it be a big 'un that has a bit of realmstone stuck in its brain
>>92562617just put the hag on a dankhold base, run it as a trogg boss
>>92562644It is WAY too big for that.
>>92562505The majority of the AoS range is handsculpted, Bonereapers was the last handsculpted army, which was late 2020 I believe, so everything made in 2020 and before is handsculpted.
>>92562637>Have it be a big 'un that has a bit of realmstone stuck in its brainBest I can do is Trugg. Bloody amazing that both Trugg and the Dankhold Troggoth have their thumb clipping through their fingers.
>>92562652Niga the fuck are you yapping about, by the time aos released, gw pretty much stopped making any new hand sculpted minis
>>92562675I bet they did it on purpose with trugg
>>92562675This is probably my least favourite AoS model.
>>92562678I was told at a GW shop by a GW employee that the bonereapers were the last hand sculpted army, and that the artisans who made it poured their heart and soul into that release because it was their last.I just assumed this meant that every army before that was hand sculpted as well, but happy to admit being wrong if that's the case.
>>92562705I doubt any obr were hand sculpted
>>92562675He should've been more of a stone trog that's essentially just a moving mountain instead of a bigger boss that somehow no one noticed as they built things on top of him
>>92562675A troll king (rip Throgg) is a great idea, but man I just can't like this design at all. Retarded silhouette, stupid face (even by troll standards), something that looks like a beard but might as well be a dirty dish-rag (do trolls have beards? since when?) and a ginormous stupid hat. Good thing Kragnos is so sexy.
>>92562705Theres no way any of the bonereapers were handsculpted, really not sure what exactly the store manager meant, maybe you are mixing something up?
>>92562705The only obr model that could have potentially been hand sculpted would be the morghasts but even those I wouldn't believe
>>92562729>maybe you are mixing something up?I don't think so, dude sounded pretty sure and passionate about this, about their significance as the last of the handsculpted warhammer, which is why I remember the exchange, but then he was trying to sell me some boners
>>92562726honestly the disappointing aos troll sculpts just remind me of how much i miss the warmahordes trolls. i've got all 3 kings collecting dust in a box somewhere, i should bust them out and convert some noses onto them for AoS since hordes is dead
>>92562778If he works at t GW store he doesn't know anything more than us. OBR were not hand sculpted
>>92562675At this point that "clip" is canon, seeing how they made it twice
>>92562675the power of cad
>>92562724I guess it's hard to notice if it was essentially buried undergroundbut I personally believe whoever built the thing knew exactly what he was doing
>>92562796Why does he need furs if he's made of ice
>>92563212Modesty, clearly.
>>92563212maybe he's embarrassed by how his junk shrinks due to the cold
I like this thing. I don't know what was in the brief given to the sculptor, but I like to think the people who wrote it had their mind on The Were of Fjirgard.
We need more hair like this
>>92563347Probably not super difficult to DIY
>>92563344that's without a single shadow of a doubt at least 70% of what they had in mind
>>92563344It's fucking great. The lore for it is good too, and for Darkoath in general so far.They've done a good job making them interesting and sympathetic I think. Just wish the rest of their models were as cool as this thing.
>>92563376That's what people told me about flames but every attempt I've made has been horrendous
>>92562796>that Pixar-tier monster design
>>92563599I mean, outside of river trogs, all of them look pretty similar to that.But i agree, Warmahordes had too much of thos weird cartoonish disney vibe
>>92563767what doth life, indeed
Now that Horns of Hashut are squatted who would be a good replacement warband to fight Rotmire Creed if Heart of Ghur was rereleased?
>>92561972In the current rules it's just the first two.They use to he able to really spam MW 6s to hit bullshit.But it's all gone now.In short, 10 man skirmish screens are always useful.
>>92563862Play DoK, they're the least inclusive army around.
>>92563862You call it wow, wow players call it disney/mobile-ifycation. I don't think that stuff is so rampant in AoS as people like to claim, but the unisex DEI shit is unfortunately. And it's in 40k now too, starting with Votann arguably.Just you wait for Kislev and Cathay, it's coming to ToW too.
>>92563843Jade Obelisk. Hounds of Khorne or whatever. Slaaneshi one if they've got around to that yet.
Wow the OOP Warcry stuff has spiked insanely. Should have been quicker on getting individual models I wanted.
>>92563843Bizarre question
>>92563862Yet here you are
>>92563981I am here to laugh at you.
>>92563997Nah, you are just mind-broken
>>92563997All GW products will succumb. Even TOW has female bret knights. It just happened earlier with AoS.
>>92564060Do they really think women and minorities will take up the slack from the chuds? And even exceed them?I am going 3rd party
>>92562617>Trish Carden, author of the model, loves this sculpt partially because people couldn't look at it, without feeling embarrassed during Games Day
>>92563968Just thinking as each release since Bloodhunt has been a good guy Vs bad guy box, who would be best to go up against the rotmire creed, thematically I have autism
>>92564080Of course not, those demographics don't play. My local club of roughly 60 has 1 guy's gf as the only female player.
>>92564120What about diverse people's and lgbtqip+ in those 60 people?
Why bother writing while supplies last? They know no one wants AOS stuff don't they?
>>92564201>$200I thought £120 was bad
>>92563959Should have done one final “made to order” last hurrah so people could get shit and they could make some money. Half of the warbands were out of stock when they announced the supersquatting and now anything still out in the wild is not worth the price people are asking for it
>>92564201What in the copium are you talking about? You lost?
>>92564321I guess the new thing is gonna be showing pre orders not selling out the day they're available to pre order
>>92564080If you weren't going third party with Brets regardless you were retarded. I don't think there's a more generic army out there to get proxies for
>>92562448I still need to repaint mine
How easy is it to not include the wings or tail? I want the lion for a stormcast hero but I can use the wings for something else if they're not attached in a retarded way
>>92563767100% the amount of each is different. It's impossible to compare without knowing how many have they produced of each.
>>92564598The wings are included on the back with the chair so very difficult I would imagine.
>>92562675I hate this guy because he feels like a spiteful inversion of Throgg>Oh, Fantasy had the troll king who is intelligent? Well here the troggoth king is so dumb that he doesn't know why other troggoths are following him, and everything he does is by accident
>>92564603It's also the difference between buying a single kit and buying a specific mix of units with a book and other shit. Those army boxes regardless of what system or army always stick around for months
>>92564631Throgg was a chaos character whose entire special gimmick was that he wasn't retarded like every other troll, why would they make a not-throgg for destruction with the exact same gimmick
>>92565024>>92565024>>92565024>>92565024
>>92558208From all the Warcry Bands they picked one of the worst looking ones for the new barbarians. At least the masks for the horses look good.
>>92561579Buy one, and build/paint it in the time they need to release the vanguard box. If you still want/need more, but that one then.
