Tzeentch Wife Edition>The Latest Warhammer The Old World Newshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/14/sunday-preview-darkoath-marauders-old-world-orcs-and-more/>TOW Official Website and Resources:https://www.theoldworld.com/https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0HWarhammer Chronicles: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zipTime of Legends: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zipET: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zipTOW: https://gofile.io/d/ffbanD>Warhammer Wikis:https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Warhammer_Wikihttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>92574759>Thread Question:Could you love a girl as such as you love Lord Tzeentch?
Does anyone have an example of the standard high elf sweaty tournament list with dragons?
>>92587564Fucking kill yourself
>>92587576Why? I want to brainstorm ways to beat it.
>>92587586Fucking kill yourself
Aight, guess I went and found it myself. # Main Force [2000pts]## Characters [995pts]Archmage [220pts]: Hand Weapon, High Magic, Wizard Level 4, Silvery Wand, Seed of RebirthHandmaiden of the Everqueen [123pts]: Horn of Isha, Handmaiden’s Spear, Hand Weapon, Bow of Avelorn, Heavy Armour, General, Ruby Ring of RuinNoble [178pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Full Plate Armour, Battle Standard Bearer, War Banner, Dragon Helm, Sword of Might, Seed of Rebirth, Sea GuardPrince [474pts]: Hand Weapon, Great Weapon, Light Armour, Star Dragon, Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws, Seed of Rebirth, Talisman Of Protection, Pure of Heart## Core [588pts]Lothern Sea Guard [277pts]: Veterans• 20x Lothern Sea Guard [12pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Thrusting Spear, Warbow, Shield• 1x Sea Master [7pts]• 1x Standard Bearer [5pts]• 1x Musician [5pts]Sisters of Avelorn [311pts]: Stubborn• 19x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour• 1x High Sister [7pts]## Special [417pts]Phoenix Guard [417pts]:• 21x Phoenix Guard [16pts]: Ceremonial Halberd, Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon• 1x Keeper of the Flame [7pts]• 1x Standard Bearer [67pts]: Battle Banner• 1x Musician [7pts]
>>92587658Doesn't seem right, not enough chariots.
>namefaggotFuck off
>>92587658>phoenix guard>gw on prince>bsb with war bannerLol, lmao even
>>92587674Elf chariots are bad
++ Characters [795 pts] ++High Priest [435 pts](Hand weapon, Level 4 Wizard, General, Necrolith Bone Dragon, Scarab Brooch, Cloak of the Dunes, Elementalism)Mortuary Priest [125 pts](Hand weapon, Level 2 Wizard, Battle Standard Bearer (Mortuary Cult Only), On foot, Biting Blade, Elementalism)Tomb Prince [145 pts](Flail, Light armour, Shield, On foot, Crown of Kings, Death Mask of Kharnutt)Arch Necrotect [90 pts](Hand weapon, Light armour)++ Core Units [704 pts] ++33 Skeleton Warriors [213 pts](Thrusting spears, Light armour, Shields, Master of Arms (Champion), Standard bearer, Musician)8 Skeleton Skirmishers [40 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows)8 Skeleton Skirmishers [40 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows)6 Ushabti [294 pts](Hand weapons, Ritual Blade, Heavy armour)3 Tomb Swarms [117 pts](Hand weapons (Venemous Bites and Stings), Ambushers)++ Special Units [154 pts] ++Tomb Scorpion [77 pts](Decapitating Claws, Envenomed Sting, Heavy armour (Bone Carapace), Ambushers, (Mortuary Cult Only) The Terrors Below)Tomb Scorpion [77 pts](Decapitating Claws, Envenomed Sting, Heavy armour (Bone Carapace), Ambushers, (Mortuary Cult Only) The Terrors Below)++ Rare Units [335 pts] ++Necrosphinx [200 pts](Cleaving Blades, Decapitating Strike, Heavy armour, Envenomed Sting)Casket of Souls [135 pts](Hand weapons, Great weapons, Light armour)---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]thoughts?
>>92588278a white lion chariot did pretty good against my Dwarfs last game
>>92588327Bone dragon riding priest is bad. Makes him an easy target for shooting and he can't cast or dispel if he is locked on combat actually using that dragon he paid 265pts for. Tomb king on dragon is great though. Drop the tomb swarms for a 3rd scorp: you need all 3 to instagib a dragon lord on the charge and you don't want him swinging back. Other than that, pretty good, maybe if you just put the priest on foot, spend some points on a bsb so you can re roll arise tests, is well worth it
>>92588384Sure but that's anecdotal. The lack of ap on the lion claws, and the single attack each on the crew means they have 0 staying power of they don't force the enamy to fall back in good order
>>92588404i dont think anyone is expecting chariots themselves to have 'staying power'. i mean you're not wrong but you shouldn't be using them for that anyways.
>>92588392I think priest on dragon is good if you make him your general, you get an 18" radius on his Self range spells that way.
>>92588278Why are they bad compared to, for example, Beastmen chariots? I want to learn.
Should I give Black Orcs with Great Weapons the Frenzy banner?Seems like I want to be chargemaxxing them anyways, but having two Frenzy units on a line (alongside Savage Orcs) seems risky. Do I take more Goblin screens with it?
>>92588392My plan was basically >>92588450Also I already have a bsb that's what the level 2 Mort Priest is for. But thank you both for the advice
>>92588471>>92588392Another question, should I even bother with the tomb prince on foot? I'm only taking him for crown of kings but I'm not sure if the points would be well spent elsewhere
>>92588471>>92588450Wat? Range self don't get a range equal to your command range. Also cloak of dunes is infantry only.
>>92588452Beastmen chariots are 85pts and core, where as elf ones are special and 125pts. Beastmen chariots are also okay rather than amazing
>>92588511>Also cloak of dunes is infantry only.I forgot, I took him off the dragon anyways so not like it matters anymore
Piccolo's dick?
So I read the available fluff on Ind online, and beastmen with tiger features were mentioned numerous times. The problem is that basically all stls I've seen of weretigers and the like are too furryesque for me to be comfortable using them.
>>92588278They are shit points wise but if you want to take them they’ll do fine. Just not as efficient as other options
>>92588511The Tomb King spells work like that. Desert Wind and Cursed Blades.
Kingdom of Bretonnia [1987 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Kingdom of Bretonnia, Bretonnian ExilesBaron [311 pts]- Hand weapon- Lance (if appropriately mounted)- Heavy armour- Shield- General- Hippogryph [Barding]- Gromril Great Helm- Talisman of ProtectionPaladin [132 pts]- Hand weapon- Heavy armour- Shield- Battle Standard Bearer- On foot- Ironspike Shield- Sword of Might- Virtue of PurityOutcast Wizard [135 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 3 Wizard- On foot- Ruby Ring of Ruin- DaemonologyOutcast Wizard [135 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 3 Wizard- On foot- Lore Familiar- Dark Magic30 Yeomen Guard [198 pts]- Hand weapons- Polearms- Light armour- Shields- Warden (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician30 Yeomen Guard [168 pts]- Hand weapons- Halberds- Light armour- Shields- Warden (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician10 Mounted Knights of the Realm [261 pts]- Hand weapons- Lances- Shields- Heavy armour- First Knight (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician10 Mounted Knights of the Realm [261 pts]- Hand weapons- Lances- Shields- Heavy armour- First Knight (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician10 Peasant Bowmen [50 pts]- Hand weapons- Longbows- Unarmoured10 Peasant Bowmen [50 pts]- Hand weapons- Longbows- Unarmoured3 Pegasus Knights [186 pts]- Hand weapon- Lances- Shields- Heavy armour- First Knight (champion)- Standard bearer- MusicianBorder Princes Bombard [100 pts]- Hand weapons- Light armour
>>92588637Idk, maybe there is some tech with taking units of tirinoc with a razor standard bsb or a killy Nobel / mage. Maybe ethereal chariots could be jokes
>>92588713Ahh okay. But is it worth paying so much for one spell? 12 inches is probs fine for such a spell
>>92588755Good thing you put in all those handweapons or we wouldn't know.
>>92588813I take a unit of tomb king chariots with razor banner and add a Prince in the unit and proceed just rape units.
>>92588755>Talisman of ProtectionJust pray you retard
>>92588838Exiles can't pray, double retard.
tripfaggot genocide now
>>92588844Oh
Really makes you think
>>92588870>blogpost about a gaem that hasn't happened yetZzzz>blown-out greenstuff butthole, with a drilled anusNow you have my attention
>>92588831Yeah but tk chariots are 35ppm, so you can just have a ton. Elf ones are 75ppm
>>92588870He better not forget to green stuff a sheathe.
>>92587674This post made me realize that you could intentionally gimp yourself to play a fluffy high elf army made up of the worst units in the roster but there's still always going to be some faggot going on about how it's sweaty waacfaggotry because of course there is.
>>92588844>>92588838Just kill shit in combat retards!
>>92588917That means the player was retarded.High elves auto-win anything if you are just smart.
Should I put my paladin BSB with foot knights, grail knights, or questing knights?
>>92588755Royal Pegasus is better than the Hippogryph but if you want the hippo more power to you. Drop the ToP, if anyone is going to be able to regain the ward save it's this guy. He's your best combat character, give him a virtue. Even if it's something cheap like Joust or Confidence + Gauntlet.But ideally you want to go big with Heroism + Lucky Heirloom or Frontier Axe + Knightly Temper. The rest is fine although getting those wizards on horses would be nice, 5 Squires with Scouts will do more work than the Bowmen, and Pegasus Knights don't need a musician as units with Fly can march while within 8" of an enemy unit anyway. If you can squeeze the points for Banner of the Zealous Knight onto the PK that'd be nice as well.
>>92588930GK are immune to psychology and are most likely to smash what they charge. Could put it in QK. But in foot knights with Rampaging Banner + Virtue of the Impetuous Knight means you can actually give them a half decent threat range. Plus you can "blinker" them with your cavalry units so they don't go off on unwanted chn8rpjarges.
>>92588943>foot knights with Rampaging Banner + Virtue of the Impetuous KnightFuck that sounds really fun, I'm doing that
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/22/grombrindal-returns-to-the-mortal-realms-to-celebrate-the-500th-issue-of-white-dwarf/New Grombrindal>"bedecked in duardin accessories">"he will receive Legends rules for use in Warhammer Age of Sigmar">"alongside rules for Cursed City, Warcry, and Warhammer Underworlds"The White Dwarf is back but he's for AoS and isn't getting TOW rules. Just a month of shit from Games Workshop.
>>92588971He seems easy to remove from his scenic base, just run him as a dwarf king
>>92588971named characters are cancer anyway
>>925889711. Grombrindal is the shittiest dwarf character in the setting and no one ever gave a fuck2. the model is CADslop3. kys for lusting after AOSlop
>>92588958You could go full deathstar and stick a level 4 damsel in there with Illusion, Lore Familiar and Sword of the Stout Hearted. She can throw out Column of Crystal/Miasmic Mirage on the way in, gives them MR2 and magical attacks. And then throws out The Lady's Wrath + Spectral Doppelganger so you'll have (assuming 7 wide) 21 S6 AP-3 attacks and 2d6 S6 AP-2 autohits both with AB1.
A few days ago I asked on here for recommendations regarding alternative Orc heads, and some madlad offered to print me some up. I was half expecting a turd in a box but this morning I got a ton of Orc heads and other stuff in the mail. Genuinely fantastic stuff. Asked for nothing in return too. Wherever you are print-anon, thank you
>>92589035holesome
>>92588971>The White Dwarf is back but he's for AoSIt's funny when you consider that mini is a direct copy of pic related
>>92589074Direct copy? I'd say intentionally inspired
>>92589035
>>92589035damn greenskin players really are the tauren of fantasy playerbase.
>>92588971they knew what they were doing by minimizing the amount of kharadron and stormcast stuff on him
>>92588943>>92588958>>92588989Personally, I'm always going to champion the nonesense that is pairing up the Errantry Banner with the Crusers Clarion. Nobody expects Str 5 horses.
>>92588971>not given away free with WDAre these dickheads allergic to virtue
>>92589100Generally yeah
>>92588971Pretty shitty on their part desu, though no one's going to stop you if you use his in TOW either way. Also, I've enjoyed his iterations thus far (picrel is my favourite).
What’s the verdict on the arcana journals out so far then? Are they interesting and fluffy or do I benefit more from just using the lists online
>>92589151There's some fluff in them, I personally love the Bretonnian Exiles and Tomb Kings Mortuary Cult lists
>>92589151they give you one strong unit and lock you behind a slightly more restrictive list, though it usually isn't very limiting. Wouldn't say they are neccessarily that interesting though since the fluffy units are the weakest ones and you won't take them. Also just getting two lists is a bit lame, most armies could easily field three or more archetypes, something like greenskins could run what, 6 different flavours of armies? Mongol Horde goblins, Night goblins, forest goblins etc.
>>92589151they give you some extra tools but I don't think there's enough content to justify a separate publication
>>92589134CAD
>>92589224I don't like how most of the fluff for the army is in the AJ rather than the actual armybook, and even then it's not much
>>92589225everything is cad since 2004-2006 whats your pointthe problem is the shit lazy sculptors
>>92587487Is it just me or is the entire old world range so far even more overpriced than usual for gw?
>>92589407yeah, biggest offender is the resin stuff but thats always been the deal.
redpill me on Morr.
>>92589417How much of it is resin? I kinda only want to go plastic for plastic. Resin´s shit to get outta the box, assemble and paint for me
>>92589430a good portion of the characters are, and chances are that if you think it looks cool, its in resin.
game with TK s dwarves if i remember to take pics ill post em
>>92589407Do you mean TOW created stuff or the old miniatures? Inclined to agree for the new shit but some of the older stuff oddly enough works out similar in price to when I used to buy it from the store 20 years ago, or close to it at least. Granted I was buying it straight from GW back then.
>>92588971Looks nice, and easy to de-AoSfy
>>92588986>the shittiest dwarf character in the settingGotrek and it's not even up for debate
>>92587487I don't love Tzeentch I hate my lord, as all good Tzeentch cultists do
>>92588977I agree completely, but I just see him as an alternate King/Thane model, and a pretty good one at that
>>92589501>essentially no terrain what so everChrist why bother
>>92589637>terrainlmao 40k is 2 doors down and to the left, kid.
What a nice looking chaphttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/22/skaven-warlock-engineer-fuse-magic-and-technology-with-this-rodent-researcher-from-the-clans-skryre/
>>92589642Kek fuck off stunty zoomer. Playing with terrain makes war games 100%better
>>92589652it doesnt matter much in TOW though
>>92589637its 6 its which is what the rulebook recommended? lets see what gametable your playing on anon
>>92589642>noooo my gun line should be able to shoot you always, noooo I shouldn't have to think about deploymentKYS
>>92589501>barren, flat empty board with zero terrain What's the fucking point.
>>92589677Yeah but you've put them in the corners, there is nothing in the region of the board you are going to actually play on. Usally I do at least 2 blocks in the middle with some walls here and there and a hill or two. If I'm feeling extra fruity, I'll have a little grove. Not only does it make the game play better by it looks so much nicer
>>92589666It really does though. Disrupted charges, provides cover for advancing troops, let's you fire over other troops ect
>>92589501Post lists
>>92589666Retard
>>92589697I mean it states in the book to not have them within 12" of each other or centre of the board so?>>92589706++ Characters [878 pts] ++Tomb King [450 pts](Hand weapon, Heavy armour, General, Necrolith Bone Dragon, Relic Of The Desert Sun, Giant Blade, Orb Of Ptra)High Priest [245 pts](Hand weapon, Level 4 Wizard, On foot, Warding Splint, Phâzerakt's Kanopi, Elementalism)Royal Herald [183 pts](Flail, Light armour, Battle Standard Bearer [Sigil Of Centuries], On foot, Armour of the Ages)++ Core Units [971 pts] ++20 Skeleton Warriors [135 pts](Thrusting spears, Light armour, Shields, Master of Arms (Champion), Standard bearer, Musician)20 Skeleton Warriors [135 pts](Thrusting spears, Light armour, Shields, Master of Arms (Champion), Standard bearer, Musician)16 Skeleton Archers [85 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows, Master of Arrows (champion))16 Skeleton Archers [85 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows, Master of Arrows (champion))3 Skeleton Chariots [147 pts](Hand weapons, Cavalry spears, Warbows, Master Charioteer (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)20 Tomb Guard [258 pts](Halberds, Light armour, Shields, Drilled (one per 1000pts), Tomb Captain (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)10 Skeleton Horse Archers [126 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows, Chariot Runners, Master of Horse (champion))++ Special Units [147 pts] ++3 Ushabti [147 pts](Hand weapons, Greatbows, Heavy armour)---Created with "Old World Builder"
>>92589706++ Characters [530 pts] ++King [247 pts](Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, General, On foot, Master Rune of Smiting, Rune of Fortitude, Rune of Fire, Rune of Speed)Thane [165 pts](Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Srongi Redbeard], On foot)Runesmith [118 pts](Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Master Rune of Calm)++ Core Units [810 pts] ++20 Dwarf Warriors [195 pts](Hand weapons, Heavy armour, Shields, Veteran, Standard bearer, Musician)16 Thunderers [165 pts](Hand weapons, Handguns, Heavy armour, Veteran (champion) [Handgun])20 Dwarf Warriors [195 pts](Hand weapons, Heavy armour, Shields, Veteran, Standard bearer, Musician)15 Dwarf Warriors [150 pts](Hand weapons, Heavy armour, Great weapons, Veteran, Standard bearer, Musician)10 Thunderers [105 pts](Hand weapons, Handguns, Heavy armour, Veteran (champion) [Handgun])++ Special Units [492 pts] ++10 Hammerers [211 pts](Hand weapons, Great hammers, Heavy armour, Royal Champion (Up to 25pts of each rune type), Standard bearer [Master Rune Of Hesistation], Musician)Cannon [110 pts](Cannon, Hand weapons, Light armour, Rune of Burning)10 Ironbreakers [171 pts](Hand weapons, Shields, Full plate armour, Ironbeard (champion) [Shield], Standard bearer, Musician)++ Rare Units [168 pts] ++10 Irondrakes [168 pts](Hand weapons, Drakeguns, Full plate armour, Ironwarden (champion) [Drakegun], Standard bearer, Musician)---Created with "Old World Builder"
>>92589716The book gives possibly the most retarded guidance on terrain I've ever read in a rule book. It's baffling to me why they would encourage such bad terrain set ups.List looks good mind
>>92589697also its in the game area so
>>92589726eh its both our first time so works for what it is
>>92589720You posted this list a few days ago right? I'm amazed you stuck with only a hand weapon on your king: why forgo the great weapon upgrade? Also post pics of the iron drakes, they are such nice models
>>92589743its WYSIWYG and I'm an autist
>>92589773Not that anon, but what did wysiwyg mean again? And those are indeed some nice dwarves
>>92589834What you see is what you get. A tiresome form of autism where people refuse to use anything but what's on the model dispite them being tokens for a game.>>92589773I suppose you could always get the new white dwarf model, he's a stylish looking fella
>>92589773Ooof very noice anon, I like the green metal work
>>92589849Oh. Wasn´t aware that my specifc brand of model autism had a name. Thought that was only pplied to the actually diagnosable stuff I had. I´m more of an - It has extra points, it ain´t gonna be used - kind of guy anyway.
is multiple wounds counts as +1 CR per wound lost or just 1 no matter how many wounds?
>>92589720>ask for list advice>take none of itWhy bother post it at all anon?
>>92589874+1 per wound caused (including ones saved by regen)
>>92589875I was posting it for fun i guess, is list posting a crime
>>92589883so would you roll once for the wound and then roll the damage or would you roll the damage then roll a regen save per wound caused by multi wound?
>>92589898>is list posting a crimeIf you're going to ask for advice and ignore all of it why ask for advice in the first place
>>92589937I dunno guess i like hearing peoples opinions on it :) next time ill word it better
>>92589919You roll regen for the whole save same as ward. as you roll for damage after that, I presume it only counts as 1 even if you have the multiple wounds rule, but I'm not 100% sure
>>92589944Fair enough IG. I like hearing people's opinions on my lists too I just suck at wargaming so I take their words into consideration
>>92587658>>92588327>>92588755>>92589716>>92589720>All these lists The troons are out in force today
>>92590164Someone's mad
Finally got my first game of old world booked in. Very much a for fun list but will enjoy playing cav elves ++ Characters [249 pts] ++Noble [120 pts](Lance, Full plate armour, Shield, General, Barded Elven Steed, Sword of Might, Pure of Heart)Mage [129 pts](Hand weapon, Level 2 Wizard, Elven Steed, Earthing Rod, Pure of Heart, High Magic)++ Core Units [461 pts] ++20 Lothern Sea Guard [245 pts](Hand weapons, Thrusting spears, Warbows, Light armour, Shields, Standard bearer)5 Ellyrian Reavers [90 pts](Hand weapons, Cavalry spears, Hand weapons (Hooves), Light armour, Shortbows)5 Silver Helms [126 pts](Hand weapons, Lances, Hand weapons (Hooves), Heavy armour, Barding, Shields, Standard bearer)++ Special Units [290 pts] ++5 Shadow Warriors [70 pts](Longbow, Light armour)5 Shadow Warriors [70 pts](Longbow, Light armour)2 Tiranoc Chariots [150 pts](Cavalry spear, Longbow)---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
posting my aspiring champion with banner again because it makes autists seethe.
>>92589501wonder if the realm of battle tiles will come back eventually.
>>92590240What’s the issue with it?
>>92590252Stormcast helmet handing by his loincloth
>>92590240I mean he’s fine I guess.I would have probably added a little more color to the banner and cut off the stormcast mask tho.
>>92590252So absolutly unhinged autist who i can only assume does not play the game, went on a massive like 20 post long reee'ing because there is a sigmarine helmet attached to his belt despite me saying "Oh its just some weird metal mage or sigmar worshipers mask."
Anyone know a wizard model that looks similar to pic
>>92590278Or this
Lads does anyone happen to know what base size Scabeiathrax the bloated/FW GuO is meant to be mounted on? I can only find the details for AoS and 40k, miniset doesnt have it either
>>92590269wait i thought sigmarines would disappear on death like daemons
>>92590240I like it bro, the cursed hand holding a dead sigmarine head is really cool. Mark of tzeentch?
>>92590645>disappear on death like daemonsI thought so too but then GW made a whole sprue of their skulls, im not sure how its meant to work 2bh
>>92590645nah they dont exist in the setting so i just say its some priest of sigmars helmet or like a mage of the lore of metal.>>92590647Nah undivided and or Khorne.
>>92590632no base, it stands on his ownfor tow throw it onto a 150x100
>>92590645they do, unless you break their wi-fi connection, in that case they die for realsies
>>92590218That sure is a weird list anon. How have you found the chariots, are chariot charicters any good?
>>92590702Sorry anon it’d my first game. From what I’ve heard they’re overcosted but will fulfill the role of chariots all the same. Chariot characters look like they can do disgusting damage but if you’re not winning first turn they have no staying power, don’t know if you’d want that for your general maybe a minor noble
>>92590645Anon, it's warhams. "Canon" is whatever the current author thinks would be cool.
>>92590896>"Canon" is whatever the current player thinks would be cool.Ftfy
>>92590915I... I have no arguments
>>92588971Nothing about this mini says 'AoS' to me. How big is he compared to oathstones? Looks perfect for it.
>>92590293
>Bring wood elves against regular opponent>They are noticably less enthused to play the next game.Uh oh.
Anybody have files to print the faction specific magic cards? Does staples have good options for this shit
>>92591149I don’t know how GW managed it but they somehow made a faction that disobeys most of the game tenants and aren’t doing it in a fun way
Mock-up for my tiny little tiranoc chariot
>>92590278>>92590293Check out Reaper miniatures they have some absolutely metal looking Wizards.
>>92591445
>>92591457
>>92587564This is a high elf list that went undefeated at Adepticon, triple crushing victory.++ Characters [999 pts] ++Prince, star dragon, lance, shield, dragon helm, seed of rebirth, talisman of protection [489 pts]Archmage, star dragon, level 4 high magic, seed of rebirth, silvery wand [510 pts]++ Core Units [500 pts] ++2x5 Ellyrian Reavers, cav spear, shortbow, scout, champion [113 pts]2x10 Lothern Sea Guard, shields, full command [137 pts]++ Special Units [373 pts] ++5 Dragon Princes, champion + standard bearer [199 pts]10 Phoenix Guard, champion + standard bearer [174 pts]++ Rare Units [125 pts] ++Lion Chariot of Chrace [125 pts]
>>92591606That’s fucking revolting
>>92591258>>92591149I know a guy who plays wood elves who says "they just aren't smashing infantry blocks together like most factions, I don't understand why people complain about them." Like yeah sure dude I wonder why people don't like playing against nothing but skirmishing archers who run away all game and eagles to try and hit warmachines in their rank and flank game.
>>92591711>Elves are fags>News at 11
>>92590915Severely based. Sneedmania reigns
>>92591606What do the phoenix guard do?
>>92591778Sit on objectives or tarpit units.
What's the best way to play Tomb Kings in 8th? Just spam Skeletons and Warpshinxes?
>>92591778They have a fair few lances attacks and strike at i8 or 9 on a counter charge. They probably do pretty well into most non monstrous cavalry.
>>92589593What's wrong with Dorf Guts?
Are 10 ardboyz/black orcs a complete unit in old world? I'm just wondering because they were originally sold in a box of 15, but I got 10 from a start collecting box and would like to sell them.
>>92591849He said phenoix guard
>>92591923Black orcs start in unit sizes of 5.
>>92589407really? to me it looks surprisingly cheap compared to the other games.I don't remember last time you could get a unit of 20 men for 40 quid
So what's a good army size for ToW for someone to start getting in to it?Will 500pts gets you a decent variety of units without going overboard?Some 500pt 7th armies looked great. A hero or two, two or three blocks of infantry/archers a warmachine or cav unit. Good shit.
>>92592086I wouldn't play it at less than 1k points.
>>92591606The Dragon Helm doesn't increase the armor value of the dragon, wonder why he took it.
>>92592086The smallest official right now is 1k points maybe 1250 points to provide some more options500 points is Border Patrol which doesn't really have any rules yet outside of Fanmade rule sets like pic
>>92592163Probably High Elf players cheating again.
>>92589716the book actually says not within 12" of terrain the other person puts down. so you can put terrain next to each other.
>>925920861250 is a good starting point. 1000 points of units, and then 250 points of upgrades for things.
>>92592163>>92592199Because you use the prince's save instead of the dragons one you nogames
>>92591807Whatever you think looks the coolest
>>92592166Hmmm. Looks like I would have to run my trolls as Ogres at that level.
>>92591807In tw3 or a different edition. A death wizard has potential to get an undeniable spell and obliterate your opponent, but other than that the army is dogshit.
>>92590265Looks like one of the helms some Empire Wizards already use. And besides, Chaos means dimensions and time are meaningless.
>>92592229>[489 pts]The points don't line up. I think the player didn't pay for an even honor.
Are we listposting? Is there life after the Bedazzling Helm nerf?++ Characters [957 pts] ++Chaos Lord [572 pts](Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, Mark of Nurgle, General, Chaos Dragon, Crown of Everlasting Conquest, Biting Blade, Favour of the Gods, Brazen Collar)Sorcerer Lord [385 pts](Hand weapon, Heavy armour, Mark of Chaos Undivided, Level 4 Wizard, Chaos Chariot, Infernal Puppet, Daemonology)++ Core Units [518 pts] ++6 Chaos Knights [204 pts](Lances, Shields, Heavy armour, Mark of Slaanesh, Champion, Standard bearer, Musician)5 Marauder Horsemen [85 pts](Flails, Javelins, Light armour, Shields, Mark of Slaanesh)5 Marauder Horsemen [85 pts](Flails, Javelins, Light armour, Shields, Mark of Slaanesh)6 Forsaken [114 pts](Mutated weapons (Hand weapons), Heavy armour, Forsaken by Slaanesh)5 Chaos Warhounds [30 pts](Claws and Fangs (Hand weapons))++ Special Units [314 pts] ++6 Chosen Chaos Knights [314 pts](Lances, Shields, Full plate armour, Mark of Slaanesh, Champion, Standard bearer [Banner of Rage], Musician)++ Rare Units [210 pts] ++Chaos Giant [210 pts](Giant's Club, Scaly Skin (Heavy Armour))---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
>>92592223>>92592139Thanks guys. Guess it'll be 1000 then.Just need to decide on Gobbo's, Brets or hold out for VC or WE.
>>92592229Except he didn't buy full plate.
Rate list ===Community College of Magic [1991 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Empire of Man===++ Characters [960 pts] ++Wizard Lord [160 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 4 Wizard- On foot- DaemonologyWizard Lord [160 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 4 Wizard- On foot- Dark MagicWizard Lord [160 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 4 Wizard- On foot- ElementalismWizard Lord [160 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 4 Wizard- On foot- Battle MagicWizard Lord [160 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 4 Wizard- On foot- IllusionWizard Lord [160 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 4 Wizard- On foot- Necromancy++ Core Units [521 pts] ++10 Empire Knights [273 pts]- Hand weapons- Lances- Shields- Heavy armour- Drilled (0-1 unit per 1,000 points)- Preceptor (champion)- Standard bearer [War Banner]- Musician10 Empire Knights [248 pts]- Hand weapons- Lances- Shields- Heavy armour- Drilled (0-1 unit per 1,000 points)- Preceptor (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician++ Special Units [125 pts] ++Great Cannon [125 pts]- Great cannon- Hand weapons++ Rare Units [385 pts] ++Helblaster Volley Gun [120 pts]Steam Tank [265 pts]- Steam Cannon- Steam gun---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
>>92592444I don't really get it either, full plate and shield would've been 3+ armour, and cheaper. Plus he already has a better ward from talisman of protection.
>>92592444Blood of Calodor comes with free plate, but he didn't pay for that either.
>>92592507If you want to do this meme, drop the cannon and hellblaster and use the points to buy horses and a few more knights or outriders.
>>92592558Adding horses means only 5 level 4 wizards. Maybe I should go the other way and do a bunch of cheap archer bunkers.
>>92588975Are there any AoS-specific things on that base? It could probably be adapted to square.Replace his axe with a banner pole and he'd make a neat BSB, you'd probably want to take your king on shieldbearers anyways.
>>92589225That's just 3D printing.
>>92591445That's literally the Warcraft 3 necromancer, the snake on his staff is just missing wings.
>>92588327>Old World BuilderSo how do you export these lists anyway?>>92590164wut
>>92592998
>>92593029Thanks friend. Been banging my head against this for a bit.
>>92592031Cool thank you.
>>92590269>translation; I tried to pretend my lazy shitty modelling is excusable because of my equally garbage understanding of the setting, asserting boldly that Priests of Sigmar routinely wear golden masks because liek, it has Sigmar in the name right so it must be the same as my zoomzoom game, and got utterly BTFO by multiple anons who saw through my transparent attempts at post hoc rationalisation
>>92592990Weird that blizzard would steal the idea from Reaper.
>>92593109do you think face masks cannot exist in the old world or something?
>>92593208
>>92593235
>>92593249
>>92593109OH SHIT THE AUTIST IS BACK EVERYONE!
>>92593238>>92593109>If i pretend im another poster people will totally buy it. Sad.
>>92593270>>92593249>>92593235>>92593208Concept art is cool and all. But got any minis to back out up?
>>92593311>UHHHH AKTUALLY art work does not count.>Moving the goal post this hard. anon, just face it, you were wrong, the model is fine, no one is trying to say its a sigmarine helmet.
>>92593109Khalida wears a mortuary mask and I remember at least one story about a tomb king pretending to be alive and hiding behind a mask.
>>92593333My quads confirm my correct opinion on the matter.Chaos warrior anons model is fine, post your own if you actually have any.
>>92593333Nice quads. I take that as a no.
I don't think having unnoticeable smegmar bits on a mini is ground for not allowing someone to play ToW
>>92593379Its not, its just some random autist losing his mind.
>>92593311;^)
>>92593398INB4>NOOO YOU CANT USE THAT EXAMPLE! THAT DOES NOT COUNT.
>>92593398Sovl overload
I hate both settings equally, so I don't really care for this """argument""" at all.
>>92593238Why was this post deleted?
>>92593450het too close, evidently
>>92593398Also,
>>92593536>File nameBased?
>>92593541Magical women that are only beautiful for the shortest of moments before turning hideos is apparently a fetish of mine, I also like Whorerathi and Hellebron.
>>92593450Jannies don't like when you call someone a trannys, they take it personal
When the fuck are the wood elves I'm tired of seeing and hearing about faggot humans and dwarves. Skeletons and Orks get a pass.
>>92593709False flagging post. The van diagram between bretniggers and welfags is a circle.
>>92593728Will never and shant ever play Bretonnians.
Any good alts to GW's Brets? I love the mini's but the price here in Aus is a gut punch.I'm leaning towards Perry historicals but they lack that 'warhammer-y-ness' I'm looking for.
>>92593778Perry historicals are the only answer
>>92593778For good brets you've got to branch into 3d printing
>>92593778Highland Mini's Gallia range
>>92593909Those look kino. Are they their metals?
>>92593778https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/foot-knights-1150-1320not sure when they'll start doing cav but a possibility.
>>92593971They look like Steel Fist Miniatures, the Perry's don't have Landsnechts of their own, unless you count the sculpts they did for Wargames Foundry.
>>92593909Looks like shit, too lumpy
>>92593778I like Fireforge, for the big goofy helmets.
>>92594073>NOOOOOOOOOO WHERE ARE THE PERFECTLY SMOOTH CAD SLOP SURFACES?!?? WHY DONT HAND SCULPTED MINIATURES LOOK CGI??!!! NOOOOOOO
What's Bretonnia's Naval Fleet like? Does every Dukedom have a Ducal Fleet or something? Or is it just warships owned by individuals rallied into a fleet, feudal style? Would Carcassone have a fleet?What about the Empire? I thought I read somewhere that the Empire's fleets are mostly low water barges designed for patrolling the riverways, and that Nordland is mostly the naval capital of the Empire, with Ostland being too poor or otherwise occupied to maintain a fleet, and Marienburg being pricks(including blocking sea access to the rest of the Empire via exorbitant fees)
>>92593293Who?
>>92594088>>92594027Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll keep them in mind.>>92593965Man these are great. Definitely a love letter to the Brets. With a few bits and pieces from the bitzbox they'd be perfect.
>>92594167Wojack posting isnt the way to make an argument you autist.
>>92594191Brettonia has a royal navy that according to much older lore is more advanced than the Empire and uses Cannons on the ships which still hasn't been contradicted in recent yearsthe Empire has three(maybe four) separate fleets, one located in Altdorf that full of older ships that are moulding in dock due to the Empire not willing to pay Marianburg to transport to put them at sea and due to the lack of proper habours(as of yet) on the empire northern coast none of these large vessels can dock in places like Salzenmund or Norden.the second Fleet is a newer smaller fleet based in Nordland that is a more recent creation as of the WFB/WFRP time period and full of much newer ship designs that are smaller than that of the first fleet.the thrid fleet is is based in Carroburg but it's secret project by the prince of carroburg so Franz isn't even aware of it
>>92593759Brets and Welves are hard based into each others' fluff. Give up anon.
>>92594386>Brettonia has a royal navy that according to much older lore is more advanced than the Empire and uses Cannons on the ships which still hasn't been contradicted in recent yearsThe "no gunpowder on Bretonnian SOIL" loophole? I guess that open-source up the legal status of brets ruling as Border Princes for gunpowder eligibility.
>>92594424>"no gunpowder on Bretonnian SOIL" loophole?maybe but it's more that it's never brought upthe recent WFRP book about sea travel and combat etc didn't bring up Brettonia's use of Gunpowder and that pretty bad BL book also didn't mention it but every ship the Brettonian used had gun ports in them which would be pretty useless if they didn't have some form of Cannons
>>92594396I don't know the fluff, I'm here to paint some minis and maybe get some games in.
>>92594465Haven't been up with the recent C7 update, but didn't Sea of Claws feature some bret shit for the ports? I seem to remember they were at least implied to be very powerful, though I don't really mention of armaments, maybe just ship classes.
>>92592426I’ll be taking the ogre blade or dragon slaying sword with the dragon now. No more hiding behind layers of defence, but to go take heads for chaos.
>>92594577the ship classes for Brettonia(and most of the rest) are just from Man O War which Sea of Claws follows quite closely it just doesn't confirm things like Brettonia navy using cannons for example
Are Silver Helms better than Knights of the Realm in 8th? Only advantage KotR have is the Lance, which is not insignificant, but Martial Prowess probably makes up for that. Or I'm guessing it does at least. Not to mention Silver Helms also have Always Fights First
>>92593109>Btfo by multiple anons Lmao, it was just you
>>92594645Crazy how even the Cathayan ship get mogged to oblivion by the stuff the elves are just casually throwing at each other.
>>92594864I'm pretty sure the Gem Ship is just meant to be a recreation of the impractical treasure ships of Admiral Zheng He voyages not a ship for millinery expeditions
>>92594913Military expeditions*
>>92594913>>92594970That's my point, even something that's more like a modern day cargo freighter still get oitclassed by utilitarian military vessels elves can cook up.
>>92595127Well... yeah? Giant cargo ships aren't exactly known for their combat ability.
>>92595176But they are known to be much, much bigger than contemporary military vessels. Which gem ships aren't, compared to some of the bullshit elves can make even when not teying to maximize size and having to take military capacities into account.
>>92591807With an understanding opponent who lets you bring an extra 500pts or so to make up for the power imbalance
>>92594705KoTR can character wall due to the smaller frontage which is a not insignificant benefit. Aside from that though yeah Silver Helms, and honestly most heavy cav, is generally better than KoTR - usually cheaper to boot. That 6th ed book just doesn't stand up to the later 8th ed ones.
>>92594645>Cathayan Gem ShipWhat in tardnation
Quick list full of mini's I like. Two distinct groups. The Necromancer and skellies and the Vamp with the ghouls and animals.200 points left over because I don't know what gear/upgrades are worth it on the heroes.I fear to look up how much gw will jew me for this.===Vampire Counts [809 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Vampire Counts===++ Characters [282 pts] ++Vampire Thrall [111 pts]- Additional Hand weapon- Light armour- Level 1 Wizard- General- On foot- NecromancyNecromantic Acolyte [90 pts]- Hand weapon- Level 2 Wizard- On foot- Dark MagicWight Lord [81 pts]- Hand weapon- Heavy armour- Shield- Battle Standard Bearer- Skeletal Steed++ Core Units [334 pts] ++5 Dire Wolves [46 pts]- Claws and Fangs (Hand weapons)- Doom Wolf5 Dire Wolves [46 pts]- Claws and Fangs (Hand weapons)- Doom Wolf14 Crypt Ghouls [132 pts]- Hand weapons- Crypt Ghast19 Skeleton Warriors [110 pts]- Hand weapons- Light armour- Shield- Skeleton Champion- Standard bearer- Musician++ Special Units [193 pts] ++5 Black Knights [148 pts]- Hand weapons- Skeletal Hooves- Heavy armour- Shield- Barding- Hell Knight- Standard bearer- Musician3 Fell Bats [45 pts]- Claws and Fangs (Hand weapons)
>>92591711It's a thematic shtick. Just make your doods faster and/or tankier and they lose.
>>92593778ASOIAF Hedge Knights
Why is Alarielle barefoot
>>92595856I luckily have only played against them once so far and won. I don't remember a ton about that game other than they had a unit of frenzied cav that had to charge through fanatics, and a unit of eagle riders mispositioned and got shot in the side by a bolt thrower.
>>92595380That's the conclusion I came to as well, but I wanted the input of somebody with more experience.Many thanks.
>>92595989Tyrion is a footfag
>>92596356No that would be Aenarion.
How do you use Dragon Princes in 8th?
>For the battle of Karak Azul, the head of Queek>For the killing of Belagar Angrund, rightful king of 8-peaks, the head of Queek>For the death of many thousand Dawi, the head of Queek>Now die miserable sons of the sewerHow are the end times not kino exactly?
>>92596826>QueekWho?
>>92597039Queek Headgiver
>>92593909Those are steelfist, not perry.
>>92597050Queef Headgiver?
Since we're dumping lists,Kingdom of Bretonnia - Bretonnian Exiles - Bretonnian Saracen marriage - [1999pts]# Main Force [1999pts]## Characters [738pts]Baron [257pts]: Shield, Great Weapon, Bretonnian Warhorse, Barding, The Exile's Vow, General, Bedazzling Helm, Charmed Shield, 2x Gauntlet of the Duel, Virtue of HeroismDamsel [146pts]: Illusion, Level 2, Bretonnian Warhorse, Barding, Falcon-horn of FredemundOutcast Wizard [165pts]: Level 3, Daemonology, Lore Familiar, Talisman Of ProtectionPaladin [170pts]: Lance, Bretonnian Warhorse, Barding, The Exile's Vow, Battle Standard Bearer, Errantry Banner, Ironspike Shield, Biting Blade, 2x Gauntlet of the Duel, Virtue Confidence## Core [756pts]Mounted Knights of the Realm [262pts]: The Exile's Vow• 9x Mounted Knight of the Realm [24pts]: • Command Squad• War BannerMounted Yeomen [159pts]:• 8x Mounted Yeomen [18pts]: Warhorse, Feigned Flight, Shield, Light Armour• Command SquadPeasant Bowmen [137pts]: Skirmishers• 20x Peasant Bowman [6pts]: Light Armour• Command SquadYeomen Guard [198pts]:• 30x Yeoman Guard [6pts]:• Command Squad## Rare [505pts]Border Princes Bombard [100pts]: 4x Bombard Crew, Hand Weapon• 1x Bombard [100pts]: BombardField Trebuchet [100pts]: 2x Peasant Crew, Field TrebuchetQuesting Knights [305pts]:• 9x Questing Knights [26pts]:• Command Squad• Rampaging Banner• 1x Obsidian Lodestoneagainst a Chaos Dragon player tomorrow, he's been pretty nice so far
Most soulful allied armies?
>>92597156Chaos Warriors, Beastment, and Daemons of Chaos.
Are ogres any fun in TOW
>>92597494Yes
>>92596580They have 2+ armour save, drilled and counter charge. How do you fuck up using them?
>>92597155Let us know how the game goes anon.As someone wanting to get in to brets (>>92593778) what are some tips you could give? For Brets in general and for 1000pt lists?Also, any background on 'your dudes'? Seems like a pretty flavorful list.
>>92597594Nta but the mounted yeomen are sneakily one of the best units as they are skirmishing fast cav with reserve move and no impetuous. Giving your casters unparralleled movement and 360 degree vision for spells for super cheap. Definitely take some for a damsel.
>>92597620And trust a chaste maiden to a pack of peasants? I think not you cur!
>>92597494its a middling experience.
>>92594191>>92594386>>92594424>>92594465>>92594577>>92594645So one of the key things in cannon to keep in mind is that It is not the nobility who run the navy in Bretonnia, but the merchant class. Ships by default revolve around mercantilism and is therefore beneath the knights and the nobility of the realm, and is this essentially unregulated outside of paying taxes. It's one of those interesting dichotomies present with in the faction: according to the army books, RBG books, and articles in white dwarf, the rising merchant class within bretonnia is gaining steam and traction to the point that there are many commoners who are practically more powerful than the local lords, while still technically being socially inferior. In man-o-war, they are flat out Superior to the empire in every way on the sea.
>>92597156Louen/Karl Broforce.
>>92597155Really like this list. Only thing that was strange is both Paladin and Baron are Exile vow. Did you mean to give either of them Questing Vow to join the Questing Knights? Otherwise, why run them as 9 instead of 10 for a proper lance?
>>92597156Beastmen and wood elves
>>92594577It did and they are mentioned to use cannons
>>92597558Did you even read the entire sentence
Has anyone bought stuff off of etsy? I feel like breaking the bank and just making a vampire count army, only issue is that I really fucking hate the Chinese and im pretty sure the Site is known to be filled with em. Anything I should watch out for?
>>92597155Any particular reason why you've doubled up on the Gauntlets? They aren't single use items.
Generally speaking, how many points should I be reserving for items in a 2000 point army?
>>92597664Questing Knights can't be joined by lower vows, but they don't specify they can't be joined by Exiles, so Exiles can join any Vow (peasants can't rally using Exile's ld though)>>92597780Oh, are they not? I thought they were. I guess I read too much into the flavor text. I suppose one per hand for now, then (until I find a better way to spend the points)
>>92597870I go for the 'boys over toys' approach. Most of my characters are naked or with minimal upgradesVolume of fire counts for a lot.
>>92597879>Questing Knights can't be joined by lower vows, but they don't specify they can't be joined by ExilesI guess that's fair, since he's not holding a lance either. Well my Exiles list just saved 15pts then lmao.
## Characters [554 pts]### High Priest [195 pts](Hand weapon, Level 4 Wizard, General, On foot, Hieratic Jar, Necromancy)### Mortuary Priest [135 pts](Hand weapon, Level 2 Wizard, Battle Standard Bearer (Mortuary Cult Only), On foot, Hieratic Jar, Illusion)### Mortuary Priest [110 pts](Hand weapon, Level 2 Wizard, On foot, Hieratic Jar, Elementalism)### Tomb Prince [114 pts](Great weapon, Light armour, On foot, Armour of Meteoric Iron)## Core Units [711 pts]### 20 Skeleton Warriors [135 pts](Thrusting spears, Light armour, Shields, Nehekharan Phalanx (one per 1000pts), Standard bearer)### 20 Skeleton Warriors [135 pts](Thrusting spears, Light armour, Shields, Nehekharan Phalanx (one per 1000pts), Standard bearer)### 10 Skeleton Archers [50 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows)### 10 Skeleton Archers [50 pts](Hand weapons, Warbows)### 3 Ushabti [147 pts](Hand weapons, Ritual Blade, Heavy armour)### 3 Necroserpents [120 pts](Lashing tails and venomous fangs (hand weapons), (Mortuary Cult Only) The Terrors Below)### 2 Tomb Swarms [74 pts](Hand weapons (Venemous Bites and Stings))## Special Units [300 pts]### 3 Sepulchral Stalkers [156 pts](Hand weapons, Halberds, Writhing Tails, Petrifying Gaze, Heavy armour)### Tomb Scorpion [72 pts](Decapitating Claws, Envenomed Sting, Heavy armour (Bone Carapace), (Mortuary Cult Only) The Terrors Below)### Tomb Scorpion [72 pts](Decapitating Claws, Envenomed Sting, Heavy armour (Bone Carapace), (Mortuary Cult Only) The Terrors Below)## Rare Units [435 pts]### Necrosphinx [195 pts](Cleaving Blades, Decapitating Strike, Heavy armour)### Screaming Skull Catapult [105 pts](Screaming Skull Catapult, Hand weapons, Light armour)### Casket of Souls [135 pts](Hand weapons, Great weapons, Light armour)
>>92598038Fuck it left out the total. The list is 2000 points on the dot.
>>92597594Whoops, missed thid one.Gallia makes great Bret proxies. For 1k points take one good column of cav (remember that lances form as 3, 6, 10 and your lord/hero will fill the tip)Take the minimum peasants, but they DO hold the line with enough ranks, so keep that in mind.As for my background, it all stafted when I wanted to have an Exiles list and saw the Flying carpet and Damsel...My main list has this origin:The (minor) King Rouland was riding out to war when his rival, King Morgan, came upon him guiled as a peasant who clained he had been sold a malfunctioning (and possibly cursed) bow by an Empire merchant. Determined not to let this slight go unanswered, as he was preparing for war with the greenskins, King Rouland was persuaded to give the bow a test shot. The arrow flew true and struck the tree he had aimed for, but the second part of Morgan's scheme was fulfilled; the body of a well-known bandit had been concealed on the tree and the arrow had struck it. To all in audience, it appeared the good king had shot a cur with a bow.Immediately, half his knights deserted the shamed king. They took their Men-at-Arms with them, and left were the many peasants who knew nothing of what transpired and the knights who considered their vows of allegiance more sacred than those to chivalry itself. Off to crusade did the Exiled king go. Soon he came upon a castle in far Araby, tall and stout. King Rouland vowed to see the insides of the castle before a fortnight had passed and his steadfast Paladin Tristrem swore he would remain steadfast. The Damsel Isolde counseled him that this was the Lady's wishes, so the king sent a messanger holding aloft his silver and navy blue banner, displaying the coat of a crescent moon the king still bore...
Damn you can take a lot of mercenaries and allies.
>>92598150Within the castle, clad in the red and gold of his Phoenix coat of arms, the Arabian Sultan saw this new force as yet another headache. Ogres from coast, skeletons stirred in the wastes, and bandits plagued his trade routes. Yet the Sultan's daughter was a powerful mystic who had received a vision that when the moon and sun became as one, their kingdom would be renewed. So the family had held the forces of woe at bay for half a decade before seeing the besieging forces and fearing the vision was false. The daughter's teacher, Jaffar, had consulted the djinn about the vision and saw it to be true, but with a ring of foreign forces circling the castle, it seemed hard to believe.Yet when all hope seemed lost and the Sultan had locked himself in his quarters in despair, his daughter caught sight of the banner displayed by the parlaying knight. Her heart leapt and she spent the day meditating to make sure, for if this risk she was to take were to fail she might perish or be enslaved or taken hostage for her father's surrender.That night she took her magic carpet out and flew out to greet the invader, to try and beg for peace. They met as the exiled king was taking an evening walk, and the two fell in love immediately.
>>92598173The next day the good king demanded the Sultan's daughter in marriage in exchange for lifting thw siege. The daughtet had returned home without a single word to her father, who would surely have been furious to know she put herself in such danger. The Sultan's response was timely, demanding the heads of his enemies before he agreed to allow his precious daughter to marry one so dishonorable he was exiled from his own lands. At once Isolde cried out that this was as she had foreseen, and the good king agreed immediately. He slew an ogre horde and returned sith the bandit leader's head within that fortnight, and the Sultan threw open the gates and greeted the good king as a guest. The two families were wed and the Sultan pledged some of his forces to the wedded king's army in return for assurnces that his daughter would be taken care of. King Rouland pledged it so, and here we are.I have camel-riding archers as my yeomen archers and an Arabian-themed bombard, an Arabian woman on a flying carpet (for when she joins her husband in battle) and a regular Damsel on a steed for when Isolde comes to join her beloved Tristrem's Knights of the Realm in battle. just what I can remember, I'm a little drunk right now
would chaos dwarfs ever visit ulthuan?
>>92598215I didn't think they ventured much further than the Dark Lands.
My demon vibe rn: ===Just Stinky 2500 [2499 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Daemons of Chaos===++ Characters [1126 pts] ++Great Unclean One [445 pts]- Hand weapon- Plagueflail- Level 4 Wizard- General- Battle MagicDaemon Prince [356 pts]- Hand weapon- Ensorcelled weapon- Heavy armour- Daemon of Nurgle- Level 4 Wizard- Trappings Of Nurgle- DaemonologyDaemonic Herald of Nurgle [200 pts]- Plaguesword- Daemonic Locus (Battle Standard Bearer) [Totem Of Eternal War]- On foot- Sloppity Bilepiper- DaemonologyDaemonic Herald of Nurgle [125 pts]- Plaguesword- On foot- Spoilpox Scrivener++ Core Units [861 pts] ++20 Plaguebearers of Nurgle [313 pts]- Plagueswords- Plagueridden (champion)- Standard bearer [Standard Of Seeping Decay]- Musician3 Nurglings [135 pts]20 Plaguebearers of Nurgle [278 pts]- Plagueswords- Plagueridden (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician3 Nurglings [135 pts]++ Special Units [222 pts] ++3 Plague Drones of Nurgle [222 pts]- Plagueswords- death's heads- Hand weapons (filth-encrusted claws)- Plague Proboscis (+1 Initiative)- Venom sting- Plagueridden (champion)- Standard bearer- Musician++ Rare Units [290 pts] ++Soul Grinder [290 pts]- Baleful torrent- Heavy armour (Daemonic flesh)- Daemon of Nurgle---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
>>92597756>>92594577Yeah it's pretty explicit
I was watching a video on the new total warhammer dlc and the guy kept throwing jabs implying that gw was blocking a repeater handgun infantry unit from being added. why would they do that? I never played whfb but I thought a repeater was an option you could take for one guy in a normal handgun unit like a long rifle, which did get added as a unit.
>>92598467Fucking kill yourself
>>92598467GW doesn't block anything at this point. They let CA basically make up 2 factions however they wanted. That guy's retarded, just like every other Total War youtuber. Now begone, secondary.
>>92598467You are not welcome here.
>>92598467Warhammer should've stayed dead.
>>92598249How have you found deamons? Not seem many people use them and I'm curious about how they play.
Which elf race has the tightest pussy
>>92598712How does that affect your game?
>>92598485They blocked beaks for tzaangors
>>92598712High Elf, obviously
>>92598467++ Characters [663 pts] ++Prince [523 pts](Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, Star Dragon, Ogre Blade, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth, Pure of Heart)Mage [140 pts](Hand weapon, Level 2 Wizard, On foot, Lore Familiar, Sea Guard, High Magic, warbow)++ Core Units [392 pts] ++20 Lothern Sea Guard [292 pts](Hand weapons, Thrusting spears, Warbows, Light armour, Shields, Sea Master (champion), Standard bearer [Razor Standard])5 Elven Archers [50 pts](Hand weapons, Longbows)5 Elven Archers [50 pts](Hand weapons, Longbows)++ Rare Units [205 pts] ++Frostheart Phoenix [205 pts](Full plate armour)++ Allies [230 pts] ++Empire Engineer [55 pts](Hand weapon, Grendade launching blunderbuss)10 State Missile Troops [80 pts](Hand weapons, Handguns)Mortar [95 pts](Mortar, Hand weapons)---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
>>92598038>armour of meteoric ironBut why?
They'll resell Battle for Skull Pass, right? Fucking state of these
>>92598726Chaos warriors need to know what they're getting for winning
>>92598757Ah, it's this kind of shitpost.
>>92598726Fluff helps fully immerse you in the game's setting
>>92598737That's retarded but it's the GW brand of retarded
>>92598467the repeater was available only to engineers, stank drivers and outriders, if I remember correctly, so I'd guess it's mostly adherence to that and no real necessity of adding that as a new unit over other stuffon the other hand they're probably scraping the bottom of the barrel for dwarfs so grudgeraker thunderers (ew) were allowed
>>92598754a made-to-order run at bestjust get the current night goblins second hand
>>92597156Empire and Dwarfs
>>92598831This, it's easy to forget that dwarfs are sacred in the church of sigmar
>>92597156Skaven and Skaven
>>92598467the boring answer is that GW is probably planning on selling Nuln Ironsides for TOW, and the original models do not have repeaters but instead have normal handguns, that's it.
>>92598797huh I thought you could make one guy in every handgun squad a marksman and give him one
>>92598754They've never stopped selling battle for skull pass night goblins.https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Gloomspite-Gitz-Grots-2019?queryID=0cd1c2199a3abeb3ec72d4b7bf57c0d0
>>92599095*battle for skull pass-style night goblins
>>92598200>>92598173>>92598150Not bad anon, so your Araby army are Brets for now? I dig it.>>92598754But these are kino.
>>92598754>unironically wanting the inferior monopose goblinsWhat's wrong with you?
>>92596580deathstar character bus with BotWD on the unithope you don't get dweller'd
Euro-bros,Arcane Journals are available again.
The monopose night goblins and the ones you can still buy are, from what I can see on my miniatures, the same basic models with the arms removed so you can run them with other weapons than spears.
>>92597156Orcs and Night Goblins greentide.
>>92598866Let us not forget the first battle for the Black Fire Pass that helped forge the Empire
>>92598304Aren't like half the dukes actively living the sea? I het this attitude is probably reflective of the overall sentiment Brets in general have for sailing, but I think some additional material for the nonility directly involved in navigation, shit like Bordeleaux, Brionne, L'Anguille and Mouse Lion seem impossible to separate from what happens over the water. Throw in how the Northern dukedoms are very close to Marienburg and it's hard to play it off like they don't care at all about sailing, even if they still.have disdain for it.
>>92599283Skull Pass Goblins are different monopole sculpts, the available kit is soulless with bland flat joint gestures
>>92599343>buzzwordsIve owned both kits and you're talking out your ass.Post models
>>92598485GW exercises tight control over what goes into the Total War games and always has done right from the start. Kislev and Cathay were designed by GW's team; the trailer with a bunch of talking heads about the design process for the new armies was entirely GW staff. Do you really think that the kind of company that gets anal over beaks on tzaangors would also turn around and say 'yeah sure Mr. 3rd Party just do whatever you want with these new armies just make it up yourselves'?
>>92599414there's evidently some autistic rules at play that stop total war from having beaks on tzeentchian beastmen while also allowing death-magic charged artillery willy nilly
>>92599343Again, the multipose kit was made by taking the monopose sculpts and removing the arms.For fuck's sake; they have the same faces.
What are you working on?I am cutting down Eldrad from 40k and trimming off all the eldar details to see if I can make a nice Outcast Wizard for my Bretonnian Exiles army
We're about to start our first wfrp adventure with the starter set.Nobody has played a full proper pen and paper match before.What are we in for?
>>92599921Misery, in the sense that starting characters suck at what they are supposed to be doing.A standard test is + 20 and with average 30 in that skill they should have a 50% chance, but it still feels awful.That doesn't mean you won't have fun. Keep the tone light and comedic, until it stops being lighthearted.
>>92599873It looks good, but it still looks more like an Elven Dragon mage than any kind of Bretonnian.
Anybody got any good alternatives to Mounted Yeomen?
I hope that GW adds squig herds, hoppers and fanatics to the store once I got the core of my army finished, the AoS ones are a little over the top for my taste.
>>92600278https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/wr-60-light-cavalry-1450-1500/
>>92599954Thank you for the advice.
>>92599873Consider the Frostgrave wizard sprues
>>92600278I used fireforge mounted sergeants for mine back in the day
Are there no 25mm round slot trays that map to 25mm squares?
What's the best Retinue for Tyrion? I like Silver Helms, because the visually fit very well together, but I can't help but think he'd be better with some Dragon Princes. But he looks so cool leading a unit of Silver Helms.
>>92601034The ones that look coolest
Fuck's sake I'm getting doubts over my unpainted army's scheme again.
>>92600278>>92600714Thanks bros.I have this Exiles army living rent free in my head. I've already got enough projects as is but it's so appealing.
>>92601034Silverhelms are more common than Dragon Knights, aren't they? I thought Dragon Knights were only a Caledor thing. I'd say Silverhelms.
>>92601324Been there
>>92601034dragon princes are more fitting for a caledor themed noble
>>92601034Lothern Sea Guard.
A while back someone was making an old world dogs of war conversion. Anyone got the latest pdf?
>>92599569It's a very simple rule - AoS don't want the smelly groggies in TOW using their stuff. TOW gets to have Beastmen, but they're *all* regular goatmen, we're not allowed birdmen or slutgoats, and so GW mandated CA go beakless for theirs so they don't encourage anyone to buy Tzaangors to use in TOW.It's bizarre to me that GW is run by people who apparently never left fucking highschool.
Does Cygor see nothing but a mix of 8 different colors?
>>92601767no, has only 1 eye so he must see only half of the 7 colours we see, so he must see only red, blue, yellow and gre
>>92601767They only perceive the physical world as blurry shapes so possibly
>>92601687Why? they could sell the same models to two separate fanbases, just change the base
>>92601767>>92601815>>92601828How was received the beastmen 7th edition rulebook and the addition of cygors, gorghons and razorgors ?
>>92601842From what I remember people were underwhelmed and most of the chatter was about the awful minotaur and razorgore models.
>>92601815>greheh. Guess they can only see O&Gs one half a time?
>>92601839GW for whatever reason wants people to have different armies for different systems under the belief that people will want one army for every system rather than multiple armies for one system or just one army
>>92601842razorgors were hideous and universally mocked (like the minotaurs), cygors and ghorgons were cool modelling opportunities since they were just art and fluff, same with the jabber, the models for those were made way later and were a bit disappointing because the ghorgon didn't match the bulk of the artwork and much of the sculpt was actually just the assets of the giant kit but with shit slapped onto it, and a number of third parties had already tackled making models for them, and that was before 3d printing took hold, so the GW kits were just convenience more than quality the main concern was actually rules, because as usual beastmen weren't that popular, plenty of people were coping by claiming the rulebook was simply balanced with 8th in mind, since it was one of the last 7th ed books, but that's always a thing people say and get burnt bythe monsters and beastmen at large weren't hot in rules terms
>>92599873>paying for a GW model to take off everything good about Please buy third party
>>92601455If Tyrion had a foot miniature I absolutely would.
>>92601695but Japan is of course
>>92598605 interesting. I play Nurgle, so, overall pretty tough but magic puts the hurt on you.
finished the thing
>>92602139wonderful
>>92601338I keep telling myself to wait for the other border princes offerings. The bretonnian exiles list is incredibly cool.
I think I give up on painting. I've always hated it and it causes me nothing but stress>anon, just spend another few years learning!>just buy a better set of paint!>just watch three hours of tutorial videos!>just spend $500 on a set-up!I don't want to spend hours of time giving myself anxiety to "get better" at something I have nothing but disdain for. I play this game for the game, not to spend time guessing the right color combinations or perfecting the drop ratio of colors to mix them. I want to hit things with swords, not re-paint a sleeve because I slipped when painting the armor I was re-painting because I slipped when painting the sleeve I was re-painting because I slipped when painting the armor. I don't want to paint every fucking thread, belt buckle, coin pouch, and plume on these fucking models, I want to roll dice. I wish I could enjoy this part of thr hobby, but I just can't force myself to.
>have old boar chariot laying around >kind of want to do a black orc chariot >have plenty of cool STLs to also make a chariot Should I convert it up or let the blorc boss have a more unique one?
>>92595210God, I hate destroyers, annoying little fucks. They should bring back battleships.
>>92602387Consider video games. Plenty of sword hitting action and zero painting there.
does anyone play this game on tabletop simulator? I always wanted to try the game since I was a kid and played a demo game at my local game store, but I couldn't afford it then and now I have no one to play with.
>>92602508TTS is kind of finicky and prone to some weird behavior especially when both players have to share the files being used.Not looked into it too too much but that SOLV game that I get banner ads is actually apparently good https://store.steampowered.com/app/1870300/SOVL_Fantasy_Warfare/ZERO FUCKING IDEA ON IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT HOWEVER
>>92602479The point of the board game isn't to paint the figures, it is to play the game. People can enjoy both painting and playing, but the rules are written for play, not rules on how to paint.
>>92602390Black orc armor is heavy. The wooden chariot would need structural reinforcement to carry them, so add gubbins to show it's been modified to carry the extra weight, or make sure your 3d print reflects that
>>92602566NTA, but I would argue Warhammer has never really been a concise or tight enough of a rule set across any system really to make the actual game the majority appeal of the system.At least to me it’s a story telling experience more then anything which involves both, but leaves towards making my dudes feel like my dudes then the game itself
Can beastmen rise to daemonhood?
>>92602682Short answer: If they where cool enough then yes probably Probably depends on if they are specifically aligned to one god then yes probably as a sort of end point of their road. If it’s one partially exceptional beastmen I could see them refusing godhood just off not wanting to bend the knee to one specific chaos god
>>92602682Beastfiends are a thing.
according to GW rob:>Warhammer world gave away all their WHFB kits to USA team during the USA open>WH:World's TOW event had 60 people and 200 on the wait list>the only reason they could only have 60 is because they didnt have enough terrain ready we won
>>92601839Because the balance sheets for specialist games like TOW, Blood Bowl etc and the mainline games of 40K & AoS are separate. This is because Specialist Game Studios is actually a discrete, separate sub-company within the overall Games Workshop business setup. So any money or labour spent/earned by one is kept completely separate from the other. So they are trying to keep crossover lines to a minimum.
>>92602387What faction are you painting? Just play one that you can drybrush/wash/highlight. Everyone was where you were at some point, and yeah you gotta put the time in to get better. Or earn enough money to commission your stuff.
>>92602989Seems almost like we're winning so hard we're losing. They really underestimated TOW.
>>92603103I'm glad TOW is doing well, I wish muh Legions Imperialis was having as much success.
>>92598200This is absolutely wonderful, and in the spirit of old romances. Perfect, simply perfect.
>>92603220>>92603103im glad TOW is doing well but I hate GW so i hope it still fails.
Have a bunch of battle reports I could post, should I do that or play BG3?
>>92603220Legions is half baked and they launched prematurely. The fucking Assault Squad wasn't even out yet. Not to mention plastic Mechanicum is also on the way. They should've launched Legions like 2 years from now. So all the early supporters are going to have to languish with minimal support for at least another year, which we all know is great for the health of a game. Should've waited until they got out all the plastic they wanted for HH before even thinking about Imperialis.
>>92603351just have fun, anon
>>92603347I just hope they get out the high elves and vampire counts. The game can crash and burn for all I care after that.
>>92603366I still can't believe we saw the epic Assault Squad before the regular one.
>>92603372I already did, played a whole lot of games and even remembered to take some pictures for some of themm.
>>92602682I never heard about any beastman daemonprince but since in TOW beastmen have a rule "the eye of the gods" and can roll "aphoteosis" - I'd say yes, they can become daemons.
>>92600368I wonder what sculpts of squig hops, herds, and fanatics we’ll get…
>>92603366For me that's fine, because I paint slow. I hope that the game persists though because I love epic scale stuff.
Just learned that if mounted in a chariot i have to use the chariots save and that the wounds are added to my tomb prince. I will need to change my list accordingly
>>92604962You don't have to use the chariot's save. You can use either his save or the chariot's. The only restriction is that if you have something like Armour of Ages on the Prince you HAVE to use his armour save if you want to benefit from the special rule. This is something that was clarified in the recent FAQ update, picrel.
What are some good excuses for a Tomb Kings army to be on the table other than just 'get off my lawn' and 'give me my shit back'?
>>92605337competition from other tomb kings forcing acquisition of further lands outside of khemri?
>>92605337>Somewhat erratic Tomb King decides to take himself and his entourage on holiday in the border princes.
>>92588971Looks cool, just use him as a dwarf lord
>>92588971I dislike unhelmeted dwarfs, but it's a pretty good model. Tasteful pose and detail. I'm honestly surprised he's not getting any TOW rules. Not that I would use them anyway.
>>92605337Prince Hotep heard a rumor of an ancient artifact that will restore him to life properly and it's under your house
>>92605337There is also "give me my neighbors shit" and if your prince is really petty he could be tracking down all the decedents of the guy who killed/rebelled against him in order to wipe his line out, because fuck that guy.
>>92605337Working for Arkhan/Nagash, wandering the Old World up to no good.
>>92605337Tomb King thinks he is still alive and wants to conquer for the glory of his "living" kingdom
>>92605337They seek the reincarnation of their long lost love, Ahnksuhnahmum.
