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>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-11-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement

>Official News:
Magic: The Gathering publisher hires Pinkerton to seize leaked cards from YouTuber’s house
https://www.dicebreaker.com/categories/trading-card-game/news/magic-the-gathering-aftermath-youtube-prompts-pinkerton-investigation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
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CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is E D H?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>Previously:
>>92585202

>TQ
Fave legendary creature?
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Ban Cruise
Ban Amalia
Ban Sorin
Unban Field of the Dead
Unban Kethis
Unban Walking Ballista
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when did you realize that Pioneer turned into crap?
for me, it was "all will be one".
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What animal would Kaya, Narset, and Sorin turn into if they go to bloomborrow?
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>>92598975
>Kaya, Narset, and Sorin
Black cat, monkey, vampire bat
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Ran out of inspiration for kitchen table decks. Wanted to do faeries, wound up switching to Dimir control using Bitterblossom to fill up board, now thinking I'll just lose too much life making faeries and casting black removal, added some lifelink and now it's just a midrange deck which I didn't want.

Maybe I'll just build a vamp variant around generating blood tokens or something.
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>>92598823
Ban Sunfall. It basically made midrange decks unusable on its own.
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>>92598893
I think somewhere around MoM I just stopped having any fun playing the format (or magic in general). It felt like the decks just autopiloted themselves and tried to do their bullshit faster than your opponent could do it. I just despise the every card is a threat game design that has taken over magic and it's one of the reasons I quit.
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>TQ
Free him.
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>>92598975
I dont know but i would love FoxJace being a real card instead of a fucking concept
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>>92599211
Could be just a bonus sheet.
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>TQ
It's genuinely one of the best works of art MTG ever produced. You've probably heard the bible verse about masquerading as an angel of light, this is a step further. This is a full-on mask-off "yes, we're the evil ones", and the instinctive response is
>can I join?
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>>92598809
>TQ
I love him.
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>>92599244
Ah fuck I hope not, if the bonus sheet is full of furry planeswalkers draft is going to be cancer. Hopefully they are only in the special guests slot.
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>>92599244
my thoughts exactly, that's exactly the kind of treatment I'd expect from a special guests card in a set where you can't have any humans
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Nobody around me plays Pioneer, how do I find paper games of this format without a three hour commute?
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>>92599733
you build some cheap decks (or proxy expensive ones, it doesn't matter) and try to introduce it to whoever might be interested in giving it a try
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>>92599733
>Nobody around me plays Pioneer
You are playing. Ask your LGS owner if they don't want to promote some Pioneer nights.
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>>92599733
>Nobody ... plays Pioneer
Yeah, essentially
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can blue red storm compete in modern? I’ve been working on a list with 0 gifts ungiven but 4 baral, 4 electromancer, 4 pyromancers ascension
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>>92598975
I dont want to be too basic but Sorin being anything but a bat would be trying to hard to be unique.
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>>92599888
You want to play a 10 year old version of a deck that's already bad? If you want to Storm in Modern you basically have to Twiddle because then at least your combo engine is untouchable.
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>>92599888
>can blue red storm compete in modern?
yes but it's an uphill battle
the most recent development from the deck was including case of the ransacked lab, which is a cost reducer that doesn't die to creature removal and if you fizzle midway, next turn you just get to go again since every instant/sorcery draws a card
https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=53442&d=597189&f=MO
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>>92598975
Monkey, pangolin, bat.
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>>92599554
still hope for this and that the planeswalker in bloomburrow turns out to be Grist (unlikely given her future MH3 appearance)
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On no planet should a regular Storm deck in Modern not be running this.
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To the mono white schizo, I have been dominating in mythic top 1000 with a mono white deck. Using that new outlaw medic and Transmutation font to get Portal to Phyrexia out. Today already have been beating SSScel mono red decks, Orzov lifegain, Mononlack Skeletons, and Domain ramp. Only lost once in 7 games to an Azorius control build.
Mono white is no longer cucked. Whitebros we are so back
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>>92600306
I should add this is in standard (obviously) and mtg arena. But regardless mono white is feasting right now
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>>92600306
post list my white brother
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>>92600306
>>92600323
Also, I'm trans btw.
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>>92600306
>>92600323
Also, I play BO1.
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>>92600323
3X lay down arms
4X ambitious farmhand
4X get lost
4X outlaw medic
4X wedding announcement
3X Depop
3X wandering emperor
2X Virtue of Loyalty
1X transmutation fount
2X Farewell
1X eternal wanderer
2X chimil
2X portal to Phyrexia
2X march of otherworldly light
1X eiganjo land
2X field of ruin
20X plains
1X mirrex
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>>92600325
>>92600377
Sorry meant to reply to you
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https://investor.hasbro.com/news-releases/news-release-details/hasbro-reports-first-quarter-2024-financial-results
>Tabletop revenue increased 5% behind growth in MAGIC: THE GATHERING shipment timing to support the Outlaws of Thunder Junction release and strong demand for the Universes Beyond Fallout Commander set.
>Operating profit increased 60% and operating profit margin of 38.8% due to higher digital licensing revenue mix of revenues and cost management
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>>92600425
hasbro cant stop winning
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>Meathook is too strong
>But sunfall is fine
What did they mean by this?
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>>92600425
I want to see the numbers after MH3 and ACR comes out
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>>92600470
MH3 is going to be a runaway success because if you hadn't noticed the playerbase are entrenched and mentally ill.
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>>92600465
meathook stays on the battlefield and is both damage and healing
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>>92599041
>Take Final Judgment
>Reduce its mana cost by 1 for some fucking reason
>ALSO staple immediately gaining a tempo advantage after clearing the board onto it.
Its difficult to describe the degree to witch WotC designers are simply fucking retarded.
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>>92600503
Meathook also costs seven+ mana to kill any large threats, and doesn't exile them.
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>>92600020
We know the Planeswalker in Bloomburrow is Ral. Unlike the Jace one, this one had a name shown for it (Ral, Crackling Wit) which isn't a Ral card name that's existed prior.
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>>92600470
MH3 will do well almost surely. ACR I have no clue if the appeal of UB will overcome the disdain for less cards.
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>>92600525
or you can play 0 and threaten damage to the opponent should he wrath the board
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>>92600545
>Ral
extremely gay
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>>92600593
This is also literally the first time Ral's had a card outside of Ravnica.
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Reminder that Ral's sparked ignited because he walked in on his partner cheating on him.
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hehe...gay...
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>>92600545
So does everyone visiting the plane get turned into critters like how OTJ gave everyone hats?
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>>92600425
I’m economically illiterate but these seem like good numbers. Makes me think Williams didn’t jump from a sinking ship like I once thought. Wonder what really happened
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>>92600651
>I’m economically illiterate but these seem like good numbers
Gonna stop you right there. This isn't economics, it's finance, and finance is just mathematics with currency symbols at the front of numbers. Economics is the study of cause and effect.
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>>92598809
>TQ
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>>92600630
At the very least it happens to planeswalkers, similar to how they shrink down when visiting Segovia. No word on Omenpaths, but it could go either way, because Omenpaths are now 'part' of the Multiverse so maybe the Multiverse accommodates planes like Bloomburrow and Segovia now with regards to non-Planeswalker travel.
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>>92600659
Economics is just sociology with numbers.
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>>92600673
Invasion of Segovia shows that they don't, the Phyrexian soldier was still normal size on it.
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>>92600674
Nothing about the study of cause and effect implies the use of numbers.
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>>92600691
Numbers are used to quantify and visualize this study.
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>>92600701
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>92600686
That was BEFORE Omenpaths were 'normal'. You could finagle an explanation along the lines of "when Phyrexia was using them it was unnatural but the Multiverse has since incorporated Omenpaths into its very being because the Multiverse can just Do That". I doubt we'll see any Omenpath'd characters on Bloomburrow anyway, though.
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>>92598809
crashing this company with no survivors
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>>92600096
>Lose out on a card due to drawing this
>Discard another card
>Spend energy to end up with a net zero card advantage
Can someone explain this to a noob
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>>92600774
>Late game have extra lands
>1R: Draw two
>Set up for later storm count
its a'ight.
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>>92600762
But I thot dey went woke…?
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>>92600784
Gotcha. I play red so I don't usually make it past like turn 6.
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>Play against monoblack
>He summons a creature, I summon a creature
>Cut down
>He summons a creature, I summon a creature
>Cut down
>Same as before
>Sweet release of death
What do?
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>>92600792
13% to 5% change year after year is a major contraction, retardanon
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>>92600834
Start running your own Cut Downs
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>>92598809
>TQ
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>>92600425
So DMR, ONE and MOM vs RVR, MKM, PIP and OTJ(+BIG)? And they only managed to ~match revenue?
Yeah every investor who sees this as a neutral or even positive signal deserves everythig they're going to get in the next couple of years.
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>>92600981
In ~10 years when Hasbro goes under can we crowdfund buying wotc?
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>>92600792
Ignoring short term profit margins due to the usual restructuring retardation (they aren't going lean, they are just mindlessly firing good people)... 5% yoy revenue increase with a major UB release (that probably eats most of the plus due to licensing costs) isn't looking good at all imo.
>>92601028
Hasbro won't be going under, they will just (severely) underperform the market (imo, not financial advice and shit).
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>>92599244
It confirmed is.
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Do you guys ever comb through your bulk cards, and then find gems in your own bulk?

I was going through some bulk just now, getting ready to through the bulk away (to make room for more, newer cardboard), and i just found a Snuff Out! I also found two Questing Phelddagrifs (from the Secret Lair. I bought the Secret lair as a budget way to get two Craterhoofs then I discarded the rest of the Secret Lair to my bulk pile and forgot about it. Then over the years I am now am way more of a group-hug player.)
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>>92600716
He's right, I have an econ minor and it's largely using numbers and equations to try and make sense of human behavior.
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This card is just white show and tell
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>>92600849
So how dey luse? I wanna show my retard SJW brother what happens when you turn SEI
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This card is just green show and tell
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sheldon mener-ACK
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>>92601282
>This card is just green show and tell
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>>92601170
No because in 9 years of prize packs playing standard I have pulled exactly 3 cards worth a shit which is why I will not buy sealed product ever.
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>>92601357
Schrödinger's naked nymph?
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>>92601388
you know, I've been playing Magic for as long as I can remember and only NOW I realized the wizard has conjured a naked woman, and not just an amorphous sprite
well... knowing the Phoglios, I don't know why I'm surprised
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Can I please get some feedback on this idea for a modern deck? I played something like this in Standard back a decade or so ago, and wanted to try playing it again at my store's modern FNM. I am pretty out of touch with the meta, but it seems like my biggest concerns are early aggro and hand disruption. I am sure it isn't Tier 1 quality, but would a list like this be able to play with modern decks or would it get smoked off the table? The idea is to disrupt, stall, and outlast the first couple turns, before clearing the table and grinding out a win via card advantage thanks to karmic guide and reveillark recursion. Wall of Omens and Dawnbringer Cleric seem like they can stall out Ragavans. If anybody has any suggestions for cards that have been printed in the last decade or so, that would be swell too. I have been pretty out of touch, like I said. Of course I will probably throw in a couple of Cavern of Souls and Hallowed Fountains, but the mana base is very basic right now. Thanks

4x Dawnbringer Cleric (clb) [Removal]
12x Island (otj) 280
2x Karmic Guide (voc) [Recursion]
2x Mana Leak (2x2) [Counters]
4x Mistmeadow Witch (2x2) [Blink]
4x Mulldrifter (mkc) [Draw]
12x Plains (otj) 278
4x Reveillark (2x2) [Recursion]
4x Rune Snag (uma) [Counters]
4x Sower of Temptation (woc) [Removal]
4x Supreme Verdict (clu) [Removal]
4x Wall of Omens (mkc) [Draw]
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>>92601407
Foglios are kinky indeed
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>>92601423
>would a list like this be able to play with modern decks or would it get smoked off the table?
it would get smoked, modern is extremely fast at the moment
what you're building here seems a lot more in line with pauper than any other format
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>RETURNING PLAYER HER
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If you add all the metagame shares of all SSS decks together it's basically the best deck in Pioneer.
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>>92601574
meds
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>>92601266
Well they haven't actually lost money yet. But as soon as they do, they'll definitely go broke.
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>>92599025
Lmao remember when Bitterblossom was good enough to play?
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>>92601683
>"Give me Bitterblossom for one Modern event and I'll show you why it's banned."
- Pro Tour Khans of Tarkir Champion Ari Lax, 2012
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Requisition raid seems beyond busted in limited
>look up draftisms tier list
>bottom tier
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>>92601423
If ragavan and the elementals (Grief, Fury, Subtlety, Solitude) didn't exist in modern then you could probably play something like this, but only with Leyline shenanigans since those busted 5c decks.
For a better reference, even something like Grixis Shadow's Shadow can't compete in the current meta. It's just too slow.
Don't worry though, the next modern set will make the format play like legacy with turn 1 wins
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>>92601788
Modern is basically turn 2 wins because you immediately know whether or not you won by then
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>>92601801
>>92601788
>>92601568
That's disappointing. I was hoping that I would be able to use an upgraded standard deck, like I remember it way back in like 2013. Just out of curiosity, what makes the format so fast? Is it possible to plan ahead and break/interrupt the speed? I saw that leylines get played a lot, so I figured the mainboard Dawnbreaks could could bust up those.
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>Returning player here
If you ever played Magic at any competent level you could look at any current tier deck list and instantly know how fucked things are and why. You would not need it explained.
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And now the returning player is asking time wasting questions.
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>>92601868
Me again. Could I pack Leyline of Sanctity's mainboard to stop being ThoughtSeized/Griefed? Or would that be a waste of a slot for too little of a payoff?
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>>92601868
>Just out of curiosity, what makes the format so fast?
it's hard to explain without showing you a bunch of new cards that came out in the last 5 years or so but I can sum it up to free spells and cheating on mana
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>Returning player here
Whoever noticed the "returning player" thing is a hero
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there are some Man-made Horrors 3 floating around in reddit, but they are far too blurry to read
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>>92601932
I looked at top 8 decks and saw a lot of things abusing graveyard reanimation and the evoking free elementals. I thought that if there was some sort of one-sided graveyard lock I could utilize that, but I couldn't find anything like that. Leyline might stop Thoughtseize + double-Grief t2.
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>>92601920
If you enjoy this style of UW creature deck I recommend looking up UW Emeria lists. Fair warning that the deck is significantly off-meta, but I've enjoyed playing with it in the past, it brings a similar feel to the Mistmeadow/Mulldrifter gameplan just with cards that are better suited to the current cardpool.
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>>92601962
oh shit
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>>92601962
Looks to be just the face commanders.
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>>92601962
>Already showing Eldrazi focus
Hold me tight...
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>>92601962
>>>/tg/edh
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>>92602067
>Eldrazi cummander precon leaked
>It has eldrazi cards
Bros...
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>>92601962
Its the commander decks, so likely won't have many (if any) of the main set cards.
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>>92601962
is the Queen of Vesuva named "Omo"?
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>>92601979
don't worry anon, SSS fixes the elementals being in every deck, instead SSS will be in every deck now.
the elementals are just another hogaak that have astroturfed the format.
disabling the graveyard really doesn't do that much in modern because the decks are abusing the ETB trigger and can avoid the graveyard entirely do it.
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>The Waffen SSS will cleanse Magic
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>Magic AIDS made a budget Affinity deck
>4x Urza's Saga
>4x Synthesizer, a $50 card
>budget
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>>92601962
One of the legendary eldrazi has a 5 color casting cost while the other has a 5 color activated ability.
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>>92602155
dios mio...
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>>92602093
What is SSS?
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>>92601962
>all commander cards
fucking prick, open the card packs and show us the goodstuff
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>>92602163
A recent design mistake that's slowly taking over Pioneer and Standard.
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>>92602155
It's for commander so you can have all the devoid eldrazi in one deck
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>>92602181
If rules text can let you have a planeswalker for a commander, rules text can make a card with pips on it be colourless.
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>>92602163
Super Super Saiayajin level. It's a way to evaluate your power level. Yours is below 9000
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>>92602178
How does the bird get his shirt and jacket on?
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>>92602216
They magically appeared on him when he entered the plane.
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>>92602178
What is going on with the mountains in the background?
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>>92602178
What is he even shooting at?
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>>92602178
Why they had to give an already obnoxiou colour such fucking beast? Wasn't enough with Kumano+Swiftspear and the also recently made Beastly Rage? They also needed a flyer virtuoso?
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>>92602253
WotC headquarters.
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Why can't you autists just appreciate some cool art? It's a magic bird cowboy firing lightning daggers, it's just cool.
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>>92602155
I found a clearer pic on reddit.
Ulalek Fused Atrocity
5 color hybrid mana like the scarecrow king
whenever you cast an eldrazi spell you (may pay two colorless mana?) If you do copy all spells you (c?) then copy all other (?) and triggered abillities you control. (You may choose new targets for the copys) Mana abilities can't be (?)
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>>92602261
Don't worry it's going to get banned.
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>>92602278
Doesn't him having Devoid mean you can only run colourless cards in his deck?
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>>92602279
Yeah, just like Amalia and Ripper right?
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>>92602178
Why did he need flying?
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>>92602307
And haste
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>>92602300
I don't think you realise just how good SSS is, anon. Its combined metagame share in Pioneer already puts it as the best thing to be playing in the format.
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>>92602278
Wait this one is the clearest.
whenever you cast an eldrazi spell you may pay two colorless mana If you do copy all spells you control then copy all other activated and triggered abillities you control.You may choose new targets for the copys Mana abilities can't be copied.
2/5
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>>92602289
no hybrid colors make the color identity, no matter the devoid
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>>92602289
Color =/= color identity. Color identity only cares about the symbols on the cards and the little color pip for 0 cost/flip cards, it ignores rules text like devoid. Because he's got all the mana symbols, he's 5 color. It's the same reason Golos was a 5 color goodstuff vomit deck in EDH before its ban; despite the card being colorless, it's still a 5 color commander because it has all 5 mana symbols for one of its abilities.
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>>92601962
And somehow leakers STILL can't take a sharp photo with all the technology we have available.
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>>92602345
>>92602349
So how come Daretti's rules text is allowed to break the rules of the format but Devoid isn't?
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>>92601962
>commander decks from MH3
Just something for legacy players to shit their pants on.
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Post I stole from reddit

“Cards I can kinda make out that haven't been mentioned yet:

1.White Pyroblast, but appears to say either monocolored, multicolored, or some other qualifier rather than another specific color.

2.Iyoti, Moag Ancient makes a 1/1 Forest Dryad for each time you've cast your commander from the command zone. It also gives a buff each combat to something equal to Iyoti's power.

3.The 8/6 Eldrazi lets you choose odd or even, then prevents blocking from creatures with mana values either equal to or the opposite of what you picked. It also gives Bloodthirst 2 or 3 to colorless creatures you control/cast?

4.2CC spell on the left side of image three is a colorless confluence. I can only make out the confluence text and that the third mode adds C.

5.Spawnbed Protector is a 6/8 for 7 that returns an Eldrazi creature card from the graveyard to your hand and makes two Eldrazi Scions during each of your end steps.

6.Inversion Behemoth costs 2CC and lets you swap P/T of any number of creatures at the beginning of combat on your turns.

7.Ulamog's Dreadsire, the most legible card, is a vigilant 10/10 for 10 that makes 10/10 Eldrazis and has Ward - Sack a creature that isn't a zero drop.

8.Eldrazi Immunity: Gives a target creature Protection from each color until end of turn, but can be overloaded for 4C.”

“Omo, queen of vesuva (2 g/u)

Whenever Omo queen of vesuva enters the battlefield or attacks, you may put an everything counter on up to one target land and one target creature.

Each land with an everything counter on it is every basic land type in addition to its other types

Each creature with an everything counter on it is every creature type in addition to its other types.

1/5”
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>>92602369
Being colorless doesn't change your color identity
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>>92602369
It doesn't break the rules. Color identity is different. You can't run Ghostfire in a mono-blue deck
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>>92602398
Part 2
“I think it's:

___, the Undertaker 1BRG Legendary Creature - Human Warrior ~ gets +X/+0, where X is the greatest power among creature cards in your graveyard. Whenever ~ attacks, each player mills a card. During each of your turns, you may play a creature card from among cards put into the graveyard from anywhere this turn. 0/5

Also:

Jyoti, Moag Ancient 2GU Legendary Creature - Elemental When ~ ETBs, create a 1/1 green Forest Dryad land creature token for each time you've cast your commander from the command zone this game. At the beginning of each combat, land creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is its power.

2/4”

“Ulalek, Fused Atrocity

Some Hybrid mana cost. Maybe each is a colorless or one of the 5 colors?

Legendary Creature - Eldrazi

Devoid

Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, you may pay {c}{c}. If you do, copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies

2/5”

“Pretty sure the Jund one is

2RGB

Whenever a llurgoyf is put into your graveyard from anywhere but the battlefield, put it into the battlefield.

Whenever one or more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player create a Tarmagoyf token.

5/6”
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I hate Commander, but I do love the Antichrist.
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>>92602278
>>92602333
ULAmog koziLEK, fused Atrocity

I see, wotc started to become self aware of how shit the channel fireball idea was and managed somehow to revive Kozilek and Ulamog now fused into a single entity... Not a bad self correcting there.

Ok, at least MH sets are good to unfuck the current lore, I will give wotc that.
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>>92602369
Because Color and Color Identity are different things. Multi-Color cards are colored Multi-Color, but their Color Identity is the combination of all colors referenced on the card. Similarly, the DMU kickers (picrel) all list for a different color in their kicker, which means that their Color Identity includes two colors.
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>>92602369
Devoid doesn't break the rules of the format. Being colorless doesn't change a cards color identity.
As previously stated, color does not equate to color identity. A card being colorless has no bearing on its color identity. Pic rel is a colorless card with a 5c color identity.
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>>92602398
>“Omo, queen of vesuva (2 g/u)
>Whenever Omo queen of vesuva enters the battlefield or attacks, you may put an everything counter on up to one target land and one target creature.
>Each land with an everything counter on it is every basic land type in addition to its other types
>Each creature with an everything counter on it is every creature type in addition to its other types.
>1/5”
Shit. Could be modern legal and would see 0 play there.
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>>92602398
A new tribal card printed as Kindred this time. The commander deck will an excuse to reprint all eldrazi tribal spells as kindred.
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>>92602473
Gives two cards immunity to nonland permanent destruction, might make an okay sideboard piece.
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>>92602473
>Helm of the Host's wearer in lore
>Has barely any relevance to Helm of the Host, it's just changeling shit
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>>92602398
>>92602413
I always say it but i must say it again:
I fucking HATE COOMANDER
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>>92602473
Well yeah she's a changeling/land tribal commander she's nor meant to be competitive
The most viable of the cards here seem to be the eldrazi but we still have to see if an Eldrazi winter style deck is viable in this set before we really judge them
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>>92602433
Modern Horizons isn't necessarily lore-compliant, but it's probably like "some remnant essence of the two fused somewhere else because the Titans always just have to exist in SOME form".
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>RDW players in Standard still running shit like Fugitive Codebreaker and not SSS
Everyone can see it's gonna get axed and no one wants to drop $80 on a set because of it.
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We've reached the point where "Male a Tarmogoyf token" has been printed on a card
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>>92602626
Go back through previous threads and you'll find instances of me shitposting that very ability.
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Commander chads, we won
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>>92602749
>Chads
Pests would be a better adjective
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>>92602749
Yep. You’ve won. You’ve destroyed everything good about this game and infected even sets that are supposed to be blatantly about not coommander. I hope your happy with the five years of blatant power creep, historical amounts of bans in all formats, power level bans in vintage and functional errata, and general babifying of what was once a much more intellectual game
I hope you’re happy about this. Somebody has to be
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60 card players destroyed the game by continuing to pour money into it no matter how bad it gets.
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>>92602749
Meanwhile, in reality...
>Why are Commander games so fast and shit now?
>WotC has completely killed any sort of deckbuilding due to power creep and "required" cards
>Commander players actually get pumped harder for product with four decks for each and every set, now even including supplemental sets
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the PT is this weekend, I'm probably not watching day 1 and 2 but I'll give day 3 a peek
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>>92602413
>Whenever one or more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player create a Tarmagoyf token.
I fucking hate what this game has become
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>>92602990
I have to hand it to Wizards, they finally got me to drop Commander and now I play Standard.
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>>92603044
$5 says CFB all take SSS decks for Standard.
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Goyf's saga
Enchantment land
1- Goyf's Saga gains Tap: create a green mana
2- Goyf's Saga gains 2 tap: create a Tarmagoyf token
3- Search your library for any land card, put it on to the battlefield, the shuffle your deck.
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>>92603146
Now that the price of Goyf has tanked, players can use their formerly $200 foils as tokens.
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>>92601261
I hope this shit gets popular, it's hilarious.
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I passed on a Simulacrum Synthesizer in a draft at my LGS because I'm new and didn't know it was valuable. Feels bad.
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>>92603146
Then leave. No one cares. Same goes for life itself.
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>>92603392
I accept your concession
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Standard skeleton patricians how we feeling today?
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Revenue Q1 is down 24%. What horrible thing will Hasbro inflict upon us in their desperation?
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>>92603786
Nothing that we can't refuse to buy or participate.
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>>92603786
>What horrible thing will Hasbro inflict upon us in their desperation?
its already in motion, we'll have 2 full UB sets in 2025, final fantasy and marvel, and they're most likely confirmed to be modern legal
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>>92603786
I think they should fire MaRo
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if this is real I'm killing every merfolk player I know (in minecraft)
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>>92603863
Well, Manmade Horrors making more bloodmoon/magus effects, now on blue. It is bonkes but should help the format once a leyline ban happens (so in 2 years)
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>>92603863
>it’s on a creature
Yawn, next
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>>92603863
epic
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>>92603863
These effects only lead to non-games. Why is this being printed? Did Delver decks really need a Magus that pitches to Force of Will?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXl-dMGSULs
I wish there was a Magic Arena for Premodern... without the dumb animations.
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>>92604019
Buy an ad faggot.
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>>92603044
Nobody cares. It’s still all Domain and Esper midrange hell despite what Arena BO1 says. Even SSS can’t crack those two decks. Mono white still forever cucked. Rotation won’t be any better either.
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>>92603863
>Blood moon effect
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>92604024
Do you really believe Mengu posts on 4chan? Think before submitting.
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>>92603863
It's a bloodmoon in blue, but it's one a creature. Hm.
Has a relevant creature type too.
Hard to judge
Don't luke them making a non red bloodmoon effect though
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>>92603863
Just why...
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>>92603863
>merfolk can easily maindeck 3~4 copies of this
amulet and tron players in shambles holy fuck
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Imagine if they made a cycle of them so every colour could Blood Moon you LMAO
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>>92602240
AI generated background
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>>92603863
Very nice. Love me prison pieces.
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>>92603863
So this is it...
3rd impact beginning.
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>>92603863
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
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>>92604242
You can spot the entrenched losers because they all see this card and spew bullshit about Blood Moon being a healthy card.
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>>92603863
>Turns off your mutavaults
Yeah I don't think so chief
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>>92603863
interesting that they made the cost 1UU as opposed to 2U so you can't ancient tomb chrome mox it on turn 1
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>>92604258
Blood moon is a strong card but it's kept in check by being in red
Giving Blue a native blood moon effect on a relevant creature type is extremely dangerous, beyond dangerous. Maybe it being on a creature keeps it on check, but that thing can get out of hand
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>>92603863
It all returns to nothing
It all comes
Tumbling down
Tumbling down
Tumbling dooooooooown
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>>92604305
Maybe this will be the card that finally makes people admit that Blood Moon effects are a complete disgrace and never should've been printed.
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>>92598893
Honestly, somewhere during the beginning. Field of the Dead used to be Pioneer legal while bolt still isn't.
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why did blue get a blood moon effect
why does blue get everything
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>>92604379
The fact that Red got it in the first place is an oddity. Blue's historically been the colour with the most "fucking with mana by making things into Islands" effects.
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>>92604379
BM shouldve been green originally
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>>92603863
Notably this cannot be played off a Sol Land + fast mana, but it does pitch to FoW. However if you dye everything blue, unlike Moon effects, your opponent can't cast Bolt etc off their now-mountains
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i'm terrified one day a suit in a board meeting will ask something like "just how badly does reprinting the reserved list expose us?" and everyone shrugs and we end up with something like Alpha Remastered
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mh is the best kind of entertainment because I love dark comedy
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>>92604431
That would be based though
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>>92604431
Reserved list cards as expeditions/masterpieces is unironically a not so retarded way for wizards to boost sales for sets. (imagine if they did it for MH4 lmao, it would sell more than LotR)
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>>92604450
>because I love dark comedy
That’s pretty much what White human art is now
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>>92604450
That new magus of the islands is a fucking testament to how shit the game design has become. Blood moon effects are already complete cancer, what could go wrong with giving blue access to them?
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I don't care. Not Pioneer legal.
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>>92604450
Then prepare some popcorn because the show is just starting... The shitshow i mean Lmao.
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>how DARE merfolk be a relevant archetype REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>NO NO NO NO YOU CAN'T JUST TURN OFF MY DOMAIN I NEED TO CAST MY LEYLINE BINDINGS!
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IS THAT A FAMILIAR MECHANIC??? ON A FAMILIAR CARD TYPE???
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GOING CRAZY
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>>92604519
Just wait until you see what bullshit they print for 5c decks
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Haha wouldn't it be really funny if someone picked up their Boseiju with Daze hahaha
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desu moonfolk isn't as bad as everyone's making it out to be. blue is the most relevant color in legacy and merfolk is barely even a deck in modern.
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>>92604554
Who gives a fuck about the tribe?
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>>92603863
>Not harbinger of the moon with a merfolk and a blue moon in the art
Flavor fail.
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All the faggots laughing will be the same kind of retards crying here after a month
>NOOOOOOO MERFOLKS STRONK
>20% OF THE META
>BLOOD MOON EFFECT IN BLUE WAS A MISTAKE
Mark my works.
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>>92604611
My deck doesn't run a greedy manabase, imperial, can you say the same?
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>basic lands in sideboard to counter new blood moons that every color will get
Based MaRo solving the fetch land problem
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Here we go, the entrenched competitive grognards who won't just admit that a card is a bad design. Your deck should simultaneously account for the existence of Blood Moon, Chalice of the Void, Ensnaring Bridge, and Rest in Peace without diluting its own gameplan down to the point where you can't beat decks that don't prepare for those cards.
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>>92603272
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=foil+tarmogoyf&_sacat=0&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
>foil tarmogoyfs are $5 cards now...
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>>92604691
>Selling your Goyfs to get the money together to buy Fable Shaman tokens
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The fucking Merfolk Flash lord that has a built in counterspell mode is one of the most egregious design mistakes I've ever seen in any card game and people just let it pass. Now they can flash that faggot in and then play Ocean Moon on a stick.
Does anyone else not see that after WotC finally got embarrassed about Humans being pushed they've neutered Humans giving them fuck all for 5 years now but htey're absolutely diarrhea SHITTING out busted cards for every other tribe? Vampires, Merfolk, and Birds are pushed as FUCK now.
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>>92604736
>they've neutered Humans giving them fuck all for 5 years
Humans remain the most printed creature type and I'm not even going to bother double checking since it's so fucking obvious. The entire reason why Humans was so strong was because the spread of effects printed on the tribe is ridiculous. You've got disruption, Thalia, bounce effects, hasty fliers, all sorts of shit that other tribes couldn't even dream of.
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>>92602369
rules text isn't breaking the rules. as everyone said, colour identity is different than both colour and rules text. though, there is a single card that does refer to colour identity in its rules text.
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>>92604736
I will believe you when i see A SINGLE FUCKING GOOD ZOMBIE, anon. And i mean a really fucked up shit, not Champion level trash. Until that fuck off.
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>>92604820
Zombies are a cursed tribe because the default zombie token is a 2/2... if zombies were a 1/1 or 1/2 or they went all in on Decayed maybe you'd have something but they fucked up at the baseline and now zombies will never be good lest they be gamebreaking. You picked the wrong horse zomboy.
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You're gonna feel real stupid when it turns out they're doing a full cycle and the black one is a zombie.
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>>92604855
They're not unless they remake Magus of the Moon as a goblin
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>>92604787
And that card only references it because it's a Commander card, because other cards with that text don't have that and still don't affect colour identity. Realistically it should just be reminder text, but hey.
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>>92604883
Or... Apparently it does. Huh. I didn't know that. Thought most things like that wouldn't affect identity but I guess it's equivalent to colour indicators.
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What the fuck do zombies do?
Every other tribe is good because they do something.
>Humans do everything
>Goblins have multiple angles of attack
>Merfolk have flash, blue tempo shit, then become unblockable
>Vampires just have actual cheating now and a strong midrange game
>Elves make big mana and have access to CoCo and Chord
>Elementals have free spells and tons of synergy
What the fuck do zombies do? Do they go wde? Do they go tall? Do they evade? Do they play the long game? Do they have midrange? WotC has no idea how this archetype is supposed to play. The best zombie card ever printed is Field of the Dead, which has nothing to do with zombies. That's how bad this tribe is.
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>>92604883
>And that card only references it because it's a Commander card
and daretti was a commander card, too. has nothing to do with anything. even non commander cards are referring to commander terms and aspects now.
>Realistically it should just be reminder text
no it shouldn't, transguild courier's colour identity is 5c. rules text makes it relevant and able to put fallaji wayfarer in any Gx commander deck. like how daretti can only be a commander because of rules text that allows a planeswalker in the command zone.
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>>92604922
they go wide, reanimate, and have a lot of lords. they've got gravecrawler and that is enough reason to make a zombie deck for me.
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>>92604922
Zombies are supposed to be value based with the graveyard, either on dying effects or reanimate effects
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>2024 Q1 is down for wotc
>At the same day MH3 cards leak to the public

lmao, not even subtle.
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>>92604922
You are a faggot anon.
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>>92603863
merfolkbros...
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>>92604560
Are you retarded?
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If every color gets a blood moon that's going to fuck the format so hard
Basically every deck in modern run non-basic lands over basics. They can't function without hyper efficient mana bases. Like 75% of the decks in modern stop functioning if every deck can side in a hate card and turn their game off
I pray to god it's just going to be a single blue card because it will be a true format rotation if there's more
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>>92602398
Looks like Omo Queen of Vesuva actually reads
>Each land with an everything counter on it is every land type in addition to its other types.
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>>92605144
>they are making rangeling a real thing
goddamn
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>>92605158
Probably never gonna exist innately on a land, and this is a Commander card anyway.
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>>92605138
It's probably just Blue, it's an effect that 'makes sense' for Blue compared to the rest. Green can make everything 'ALSO' forests, I don't think Urborg is actually something Black should be doing, and White just doesn't fuck with lands like that at all.
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>>92605138
BEHOLD
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>>92605169
>Probably never gonna exist innately on a land
don't put it past them. we absolutely might see a land with "rangeling." maybe not keyworded, but a land that says "this land is all land types." would likely be balanced to have a lot of heavy drawbacks, so as not to break tron lands, but it is possible. they print bullshit i wouldn't have thought theyd be willing to print all the time.
>this is a Commander card anyway.
eternal legal
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>>92605196
Who the fuck cares about Legacy and Vintage.
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>>92605206
goodbye
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>>92604393
Everything makes sense when you consider that blood moon was first printed in the mid 90’s. They had no fucking clue what they were doing yet. At the time, this was a way to “even the odds” against players with a full collection of 40 duals
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>>92605138
We were not ready for Manmade Horros
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>>92603863
Should have been white
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>>92603863
>blood moon that pitches to force
Legacy was the only good format. Why is wotc trying to kill it?
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People are still playing MtG?
Why?
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>>92603863
Where is my 1GG Nonbasics are Forests 2/2 Elf?
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>>92605877
Some anons just want to see the world burn to ashes uh?
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>>92605841
I have friends that play it and we like some of the settings for TTRPG campaigns. We run un-set cards that we're cool with playing because we know we aren't trying to run Ponza on each other.
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{1}{C}
Artifact
All nonbasic lands are Wastes.
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>>92605138
This is price of not banning triomes.
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>>92605138
>Basically every deck in modern run non-basic lands over basics. They can't function without hyper efficient mana bases.
oh no greedy shitnigger decks cant slam leylines
what a tragedy
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>>92606222
fpbp
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This will just make monored, a color that has been getting exponentially more oppressive every year, even more oppressive because it won't have to adapt while everyone playing more than 1 color will get fucked in the ass.
Monored is way too overtuned as a color now and it's kind of ruining the game.
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Garfield never intended for decks to effortlessly run more than 3 colors.
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>>92606255
Garfunkel expected people to only buy 20 packs maximum in their entire lifetime and only ever gain new cards through trading or buying packs so shut the fuck up
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>>92606300
Don't forget the idea was that players would acquire cards by playing for ante, which was a policy so dumb it formed the premise for (post-s0) YuGiOh.
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>>92606086
Make it an Eldrazi Mount or no sale.
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>>92605841
Because despite it all, the core game is still fun.
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Clearly the solution here is to ban Island.
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>>92606511
What core game?
Magic's core is resources.
Resources matter less now than they ever have because every deck has retarded gas and cheat mechanics, and even if they didn't the card quality is so high it's degenerated the gameplay to "do you have it?" every turn.
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>>92602398
I think the pyroblast is butthole mana due to being more restrictive. A 1 generic or 1 white blast effect for monocolored would be mental misstep tier played everywhere.

Also this is a great delver and merfolk card. biggest issue with blood moon has been shutting yourself off from murktides. this lets you run 1 basic mountain and still be able to cast everything.
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>>92606648
Yeah because Delver and Merfolk need all the help they can get
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>>92598809
ppl who play mtg still are part of why card games suck dick. I hate you all.
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just bought into the epic storm on mtgo, here's to hoping manmade horrors 3 doesn't rotate the whole deck away
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WHERE IS THE ELF SUPPORT THAT WILL LET IT LIVE THROUGH BOWMASTERS AND PLAGUE ENGINEER WHERE IS IT WOTC
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>>92606875
We already have Clancaller and Sylvan Anthem. Just draw better.
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>>92606844
the storm is rarely meta but it's also rarely at an unplayable state, people still play basically old ANT lists and manage to get enough wins to pop up in league dumps sometimes
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>>92606936
im looking forward to play some leagues with TES but right now I'm really awful at turning a good hand into a win on turn 1 or 2. Feels like I need to take a whole course to play this deck but im having fun just goldfishing in single player
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>>92604342
>>92604305
>>92604258
>Nooooooooo! I have to play some basics and can't play three colors for free reeeeeeee
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>>92606921
No, I want a 1 mana toughness lord and a 2cc elf that gives all elves ward 1
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Just run basics what's the big deal? don't they need to run basics to use it as well?
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>>92607023
Assuming these were elves that cost {G} and {G}{G}, would these be playable?
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>>92606921
>play a 2cmc 1/1 to counter Bowmasters
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>>92607104
The left sure. The right needs to be a 2/3.
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>>92605138
Good. There should be consequences / counterplay for 3, 4 and 5 colour soup decks.
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>>92605138
>Modern players have gotten so used to mega-greed fetch/shock/triome manabases that even the concept of having to actually play some fucking basics is apocalyptic
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>>92607444
>mfw my kitchen table decks run perhaps 6 non basics max.
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>>92607444
As someone who jammed Skred Red back in the day, moon effect do not cause people to run more basics. They just encourage answers to Moon and nongames when the answer isn't drawn. I imagine this causes more people to play Dismember than it does to run basics.
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>>92607444
>"Just play some basics"
Just draw the out while your opponent's deck functions at full power until you do.
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>>92607585
lets have even more 1 mana op removal
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>>92607577
>>92607585
It's like poetry
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Just play 1-2 color decks instead of 4-5 color greed piles lol
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is the meta going to be dominated by monocolored decks? I've been training for this my whole life...
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>>92607793
Just monored and monoblack right?
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>>92607807
monowhite and monoblue_
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>>92607816
I'm a dirty Arena player but I don't see that many monoblue players in Mythic at least. Monowhite I forgot about, but it feels like they're rarer in the upper tiers.
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>>92607825
>Modern
>Arena
No shit you don't see them
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>>92607793
Reject multi-color mutt decks. Embrace mono-color purity.
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>>92605138
>there are soulless golems in this thread RIGHT NOW that actually like memedern being raped by 3+ color goodstuff vomit piles
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>>92608055
Remember when people used to play ghost quarter?
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>>92608115
Remember when Cawblade was a top tier deck?
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>>92608137
Remember when Death and Taxes was playable?
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>>92608146
remember Ninja Bear Delver?
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/deck-creation-modern/528059-mono-u-ninja-bear-delver
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Remember when channel fireball was playable?
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Remember when Snappy was playable?
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>>92606875

1cmc 1/2 lord, pay 1: target green elf you control gains hexproof until end of turn

mite be cool
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god i miss elves.
cradle ''''''''''control''''''''''' is just another reanimator/sns cheat in big nig deck
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>>92608317

they don't even play wirewood symbiote anymore and it should be reprinted
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paper
lmao
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Remember when Ragavan was playable?
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>>92608468
hopefully new Ragavan will improve upon the old ones design
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>>92608268
Why do they reprint cards that are never ever going to get unbanned from every format while still refusing to reprint staples?
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>>92608526
so you can build epic vintage cubes irl
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>>92608487
you mean Tinybones?
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>>92608573
>Open channel
>Cube immediately becomes worse because drawing it means the game is over
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>>92608771
I drafted channel + emrakul once in vintage cube and went 0-3 cause the rest of my deck was so bad that I basically depended on drawing these exact 2 cards in the first 2 turns to win
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>>92608270
https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=54651&d=606016&f=MO
yes I do remember the present
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>>92609298
>>92609298
>>92609298



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