>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>92598236[REDACTED], edition >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com >Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/ >Tools:warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/ >Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/ >Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php >Thread question:How badly do you think your army will get fucked over?
>>92606816>TQI don't wanna think about it; the """Warlock""" Engineer profile already has me fretting.
>>92606853I mean your getting two warlocks the obvious Arch-warlock & the Galvaneer with Warpvolt obliteratorso i wouldn't fret the jezzail warlock is not a warlock
Would a kind anon be able to help me out with a link to the latest OBR tome?
>>92606949My concern is mostly about what the hell I'm supposed to do with my existing Warlock Engineer models. The nu-Engineer, Galvaneer, and Bombardier all have ineffective/joke melees, and the Arch-Warlock is too armoured and probably will continue to not have a gun.
With all the cuts lately I'm nervous starting a new army. Do you think the worst of it is over?
>TQDoes not existing anymore count?
>>92606816>TQwell Bonesplitterz just disappeared completely from the mortal realms so that’s pretty fucked over I would say, yeahFEC I imagine will remain RELATIVELY unchanged and just rejiggered for the new edition since their rules came so late. I could see them not getting too huge of an adjustment.
>>92606816I expect Soulblight to be okay, and probably get something good model wise. I just hope it is not another damn dog.
>>92607136it's an indexing edition. I'd like to think and large shake ups have been done with that.
>>92607136don't play any of the fantasy stuff in Cities, don't buy resin, you'll be fine.
Fucking Chorfs when
>>92606949I'm convinced he'll be the designated cheap buffer complete with bottlerocket overload.
I accidentally bought a sloppity bile piper because i thought it affected all nurgle units and not just daemons. Is it worth running if I’m mortal heavy with only 20 plague bearers? Or should I swap it for a lord of plagues/blights? I still want to paint it as I like the model
>>92607660sometime in 4.0, whitefang confirmed it. give it 1.5-2.5 years.
How good is the mistress of vines? I love the model but i already feel like i have a ton of sylvaneth
>>92607818I don't know why I want them so bad. In my heart I know they are just going to be diversity slop with half the models being women...
>>92607834>doesn't want shortstack dwarf women and cow centaurspathetic.
>>92607834It's not like there's a shortage of third-party chorfs out there you fucking baby
>>92606816>TQWell, I play Fyreslayers. So it will either be absolutely fucked big time, or half-assed and accidentally good for some amount of time, then they'll nerf it.
>TQ>maggotkinthis armies been historically the most balanced since its inception right? I dont know if 4th can fuck it up in one direction or the other but I guess it'll be fun to see the context of what makes it bad/op. >soulblightIm mixing it up between Kastalei and Avengorii so my army is already as fucked as can be.
i still can't figure out if you even spend ritual points when you cast a prayer in 4.0. why the fuck didn't they just copy + paste the core rules for it?
>>92606816Soon
>>92608295it would make sense that you probably spend them when casting prayers but i mean you ARE right
>>92608314but it really doesn't make sense to since our first example is an 8+ bonus prayer, where with average luck you'd need to pray 3 times just to get the bonus effect *once*.
>tq>beasts of chaosbig lol>luminethexpecting good addition with new temples. the only problem could be the rules. hopefully they figure their shit out better: bladelords being bodyguards makes little sense, especially over stoneguards. and stoneguards are a little redundant with wardens, both filling somewhat the same role
>>92608328Priests having the same crippling meta currency problems that the Engine of the Gods currently does would be pretty funny
>>92607822Amazing on paper for 230 points, 2 casts, 10 wounds 3+ with 100 points of free dryads, but still feels expensive in trees. I run her loads and she does a bit of everything but nothing too well; 2 casts but no buffs, a bit fighty but not really, a d6 damage shooting attack but only 1 shot and 1 rend, you get the idea. Sick model though, which is my main motivation for including her. LoV and Drycha are my lesbian power couple in all my lists.
>>92607397Bonesplitterz are fine unless indexes are soulless. I'm only miffed I couldn't get more boarboys before oop, the indexes will be the norm for a good 2+ years while everyone else is on battletome catch-up
>>92607834There are so many third party chorfs available that there's no shortage of them. Hell, russian alternatives chorfs were recently scanned and uploaded to cults3d for free.
>>92608583im kinda glad bonsplitterz are gone, they could have been a cool army and the models that were there fit well enough but it was about time that they made up their mind about orcs so they could be split up into different armies since they had no synergy (atleast visually, idk if they had any in game)
>>92607834i mean by the time that AoS chorfs are out highlands miniatures would have put out his chorf stls which are based on old designs but with modern (think vulkyn flameseekers) gw dwarf proportions, we dont know the extent of his stuff yet but i mean, if youre that caught up about it then do something and quit whining
>>92608579i kinda like the model but i also dont really like the weird armor that doesnt really look like anything else in the army, even the AoS stuff
>>92608295>i still can't figure out if you even spend ritual points when you cast a prayer in 4.0.Yes you do>For example, a Slaughterpriest can choose to unleash the Witchbane Curse to weaken an enemy WIZARD once they’ve gathered 4+ ritual points… or hold out for a chanting value of 8+ to also deal three mortal damage to the target.
>>92606953>OBRfiles<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash r34plr<dot>pdf
>>92608630>they had no synergy (atleast visuallyIronjawz and Bonesplitterz are all Nelson orcs? No Warclan had rules synergies but Bonesplitterz had a niche anyone could opt into for wounds, low cost range or big stabbas.
Is there a wiki out there, documenting model releases for AoS?I've only found one for 40khttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Daemons
>>92608754what do you need to know?
Seraphon meat seems like it would be tasty to cook up.
>>92608800bonesplitters thought so too, unfortunately they only met starborne before they went the way of the goat
>>92608754I think the lexicanum for aos covers every model for every faction
>>92608800if eating daemonflesh has a corruptive nature due to being made of chaos magic, what would happen if you ate a chunk of starborne lizard due to them being azyr magic in physical form? Presumably coalesced would just taste like chicken.
so with no more battleline are they actually going to have to make troops good?or will we see a 40k situation where nobody takes basic troops anymore?
>>92608800this is the most florida man post i've seen all day
>>92608873we can only hope they learned from the mistakes of 10th
>>92608863>would happen if you ate a chunk of starborne lizard due to them being azyr magic in physical form?in one early short story when a nurgle guy punched through a saurus' body and he retracted his arm the starlight-blood of the lizard burnt away the mutations from his hand
>>92608728Thanks anon
>>92608873Basic bitches will get daddy heroes that want them around, like the new Skaven guy
>>92608873as >>92609018 says, its looking like youre gonna still want basic troops most of the time since youll want body guards for all your heroes, and its looking like alot of factions will want a decent amount of heroes.
>>92608754Did they do a seraphon comic?
>>92608001women ruin fantasy
>>92609063It's porn.
>>92609088
>>92609063>he hasnt read it
>>92608863Starborne are basically just sacks of star magic in the shape of a lizard, to the point they don’t even function according to the normal laws of physics, you might bite into one and have it just flashbang you
>>92608931starborne are so fucking cool anons
Is this okay? Should someone do something about this?
>>92609272>most peaceful countryside in Ghur
>>92609272nah, nothing to worry, aboutthe local skink assured medo not look into the voidcursed either
>>92609369surely it will resolve on its own eventually
>>92609272is that from the new book?
i really should get kragnos. i've got 5k pts of every destruction army. i just dont like that face. any good conversion ideas for the face to make it less.....dumb looking?
>>92609271They're a neat idea for sure, I always really enjoyed how much Lustria was part of Lizardmen though, so the fact that the Coalesced actually inhabit the mortal realms gives them the edge for me, just in terms of how I'm thinking about them.Part of me really wants a Seraphon novel (how has there never been one?), but part of me is worried they'll just mess it up/turn all the skinks gay or something.
>>92609434>Arguing with perfection.
>>92608596Wait they were? I love those guys, can I get a link please?
>>92609437do the lizardmen really even have a society/culture or individual personalities? what little of the lore i've read just kind of makes them seem like scaley robots churned out of spawning factories to be used as pawns in the slanns plans, like the slann are the only ones with wills of their own or personalities and everybody else is just kind of psuedo mind slaves. even going back to fantasy they just always felt like purpose bred soldier pawns, almost like the clones from star wars clone wars.
>>92609434Someone used one of the Ogroids I know. I've yet to see Kraggy in person, but the face does seem a little off compared to the rest. Maybe give him a cool war mask?
army for this feel?
>>92609459I'm sure they do, but maybe not as humans would call them 'personalities'. They are robotic in the sense that they comply 100%, and hate Chaos 100%, but I'm sure there are differences between how they'd go about things.Even if they didn't the fact that (far as I know) no novels even took place IN Lustria is weird to me.
>>92609444something like this pic would actually be fine (maybe with a less silly grin). the problem is we dont get that, we get jagged tooth bulldog face which just looks awful
>>92609465i know beast players are sad, but there are unironically many armies that will make perfectly acceptable proxy armies for their models, and they are going to continue to sell the models under a different label as well, so if you want a beasts army its still perfectly doable even after the legends nonsense. just needs a bit more work
>>92609434>unload a whole new army of kunningly brutal orruks>morky as can be, like grots but tall and unfunny>also unlike other destruction dudes they twiddled their thumbs in swamps for a thousand years instead of waaaghing proper>pitched as guerrilla fighters, but instead have a moving castle playstyle>tie them to a character whose whole thing is being violent id, the least morky there ever wasThe sudden addition of Kragnos and the Kruleboyz to the game will probably never not look bloody weird from an outside perspective. I would love to have the inside scoop on what the brainstorming was like and all the decisions that were made in the studio that resulted in the big ball of confusion that these two releases were and still are.
>>92609238Not bad
>>92609508It was same drug fuelled night of gay orgies thàt gave us gaylords and nagash abortions.
>>92609534gravelords areliterally fantasy vampires.And dont you dare insult the bonerboys like that
>>92609508they're having this same problem in 40k right now and people are going to have to come to grips with the fact that "they've always been there" is just one of only a handful of ways you have to add new factions and ideas to a setting with a thousands year long timeline. the other option would be an act of creation, like nagash did with the bonereapers. in a creator god like nagash or sigmar that makes sense but gork and mork strike me as less.....deliberate in their creation. more like the destruction armies they create kind of spring up from their footprints and oozes as a byproduct. since gork and mork have been around since the dawn of time it would seem strange if they are suddenly creating new things. so you've basically gotta pick your poison here, its either "these guys were always here you just didnt see them" or "suddenly heres some new guys X god created out of thin air". you could maybe make an exception if the faction were an existing race but new political organization, like some breakaway humans in the case of cities vs darkoath, but when it comes to creating a brand new creature type your options are limited.as far as kragnos in a faction of sneaky cunnin dudes, i think it was handled well with gobsprakk attempting to manipulate him as part of "da plan", trying to steer him like a battering ram, and fits kruleboyz MO of enslaving beasts. but i will agree they totally dropped the ball on their playstyle
>>92609558lumineth gaylords no gravelords.Nagash slaves deserve only spite.
>>92609508Kruleboyz have "Beastmaster" as a core design element. Kragnos is a beast like Vulcha, Gnashtooth and Mirebrute
>>92609636i really hope we see a pack of smaller gnashtoofs as a unit like we saw briefly in the video game. the kruleboyz have a serious problem of all of their big heroes being pretty fast cavalry heroes, but they're bound by the rest of their army being 5" move walking infantry with no speed ups. the beast rider units are all paying in their power budget for all this speed that they utterly cannot use because they need all the 5" speed infantry to turtle around them, some of which even want to stand still to shoot sometimesi really hope they do a complete redesign of the KB rules, this shit is so dysfunctional
>>92609657its like the kb tome was written with half of the units they were writing for not existingNo cavalry, no monstrous infantry, no elite infantry
>>92609434
>>92609694or just convert your own big hero to count as kragnos
>>92609701Kragnos is just a legal warscroll for a rogue idol or incarnate of Ghur
>>92609474I want to see someone turn him into Gigachadnos.
>>92609701>>92609694NTA but this is not bad. Looks likes a boss from majora's mask
Plastic Nurgle pepes when
>>92609434>>92609694>>92609701Posted by another anon - one for the green boys.
>>92609940Wrong pic :(
>>92609932just get the resin ones
>>92609946so majestic
I want them to release an 'upgrade' pack for Kragnos, with extra armour and shit.
>>92609932>remember rotten factory plague toads >he's retired his mini business holy rip
>>92609389No, it's from Hunter & Hunted.
I hear the Kragnos novel isn't very good - what kind of novel/narrative would you craft for him? I think him searching out clues for his lost people with a ragtag group of 'helpers' might be neat.
>>92610229Maybe a fleshback to Age of Myth, back when he traveled with his kin doing adventurer shit like obtaining his artifacts, with a present narrative of him running into ruins of places he once was in.
>>92610229The Kragnos novel is okay. Much of it is boring and it's obvious it was written before the story and themes of Broken Realms and the Era of the Beast had been settled on, and as such it deviates from the rulebooks on a lot of finer details of Kragnos and his introductory story. But it does have good points. Unfortunately none of those good points pertain to Kragnos' character.There might be good stories to tell about him, but I'm personally not interested. And given that I've read just about all the fluff there is about him, I think I can say I've made some effort to show interest in him. But instead of growing to like the guy I've arrived at a point where I really don't care to see more of him.
>>92610272Neat, especially if the old events somehow pertained to current landscapes/developments.>>92610313Blame GW for not knowing how to create an actual character or narrative out of him. A totally original character, a God to boot, could have potential.
>>92609434Wait, Kragnos has 3 different faces in the box? I have never seen the middle one before, and it looks good here?
>>92608041nta but there are now, given that gw has sent out cease and desist to creators (not that i care, i have every single chorf stl file that exists)
>>92610478Even the smutty ones?
>>92610464Wow. First time seeing it too
>>92610500probably?
>>92610503He actually looks the most imposing/threatening there I think, why would they only show the 2 on all the pics? GW logic.
>>92610503Same>>92610518Agreed. I’d still pay good money for a chadnos face though
>>92609434Man i really hope he will be written out of the GSG index. Worst centerpiece model in the whole range And yes i include the chaoslord on manticore that is still somehow on sale.
>>92610651manticore is far worse imo and id include teclis or rather celennar as the most stupid looking model
>>92610651Comeon, the model is great, its just the lore that's missing.>>92610794Tons of models are worse - basically all of kruleboys and lumineth to start.
>>92610651the manticore is leagues worse than kragnos. kragnos has a bad face but otherwise he's a fine sculpt. >>92610794celenar looks good on his own. idk how they dropped the ball on teclis that hard though. in my opinion they should have just left off the elf, and said the sphinx thing WAS teclis in his new god form. a god of magic that looks like a sphinx with a mysterious mask? sounds good to me
>>92606816I play BOK. I don't play to be good.That being said? I dunno, I feel like Khorne might see some good improvements over last edition. I'm already sad about the loss of Valkia and Scyla Anfingrimm to legends.
>>92610822kruleboyz look fantastic
>>92608873It will be exactly like 40k. Based on the new liberator profile it’s safe to assume battleline has been given the role of>slightly better at holding objectivesMeaning they’ll be instantly wiped by actual good units. Objective controls stats mean fucking nothing in a game where everything dies in one combat phase
>wizards can instantly activate huge and powerful spells>priests have to spend multiple turns begging their gods just to do a minor spellAtheist chads win again
>>92610229>what kind of novel/narrative would you craft for him?ideally it wouldn't see him as firsthand protagonist, but rather gobbsprakk him trying to talk to, let alone reason with, kragnos should be an actual obstacle because I don't think the guy wants to just talk, or even knows anything but his people's ancient language gobbsprakk's point of view should also be the reader's because he would be as interested and as surprised in learning about his past and motives, gobb's reasoning (not the ultimate motives) so should be relatively clear and relatable, as gobb sets up to test what makes kragnos tick and what doesn't the reader should be in the position of making his own guesses and be equally curious about the answer, that also means that it cannot simply rely on what we already know about him, a novel of this kind should add details and a level of depth to kragnos's personality, history and goals perhaps we find out he he spares wyverns in his anti-reptilian crusades because he once used one as a hunting hawkperhaps we find out that he routinely makes a stop to an ancient ruin where he used to race with his brothermaybe he collects sapphires because we learn they remind him of the droguk he lovedmaybe the moment we see him talk for the first time in the novel is when he confronts a shaggoth that dates back to when his race and draconith fought them, so there's actual personal banter going onmaybe we learn that his rampages aren't so randomic but that he's got an underrated understanding of the world and how to bend it gobbsprakk can perform rituals to get glimpes of his past, or have subplots of his underlings searching for the ruins of the carcass donse to understand his language and history
>>92610863but on top of the trivia such as the above the novel needs to characterise kragnos, in the literal sense, he's currently not a character, he seems puppeteered by events, there's not much of his personality shining except for his vendetta against dragons, it's ok to introduce him as this destructive living earthquake but only at first, we need to get to see him in situations where his kind of violence is distinctly his and not just more of the same that greenskins and ogres bring to the tableuse the fact that he's an actual god, of earthquakes no less, to turn the battlefield to his advantage when the enemy thinks he's got him under a sound manoeuvreshow that he doesn't fall for tricks that would distract or bait normal greenskinsone final element is his gear and ascension, kragnos is one of the few characters that could be said to understand what makes someone a god, he's got a shield that makes him impossible to scry or predict via magical means, he knows the power of realmstone, it should give him an incredible edge and make him a threat not just to characters or factions or nations, but to realms and the divinity of big playersmaybe add in a parallel plot about a human scholar trying to piece together what can be known about kragnos and go about researching it in completely different ways than how gobsprakk does it, not only it offers a change of scenery, pace and a relief from greenskins' centric narratives, which can get tiring due to the way they talk (but maybe kruleboys slightly less so?), but the difference in methods, results and reactions can be played with a certain comedic effect
>>92610836dat face, dem horns... i think teclis actually improves celennar
>>92610862Someone needs to make "we're so back" edit of Archaon
>>92610836>celenar looks good on his own.I thought it was a she
>>92610876i have never heard anyone complain about the sphinx. you might actually have your own special 1 man brand of autism about it.
>>92606816I don't think OBR is going to escape the cycle of Arkan & Katakros do everything, and it will either be too durable for most players to handle or not durable enough and just flop over to anyone with average intelligence. If anything the problem might be worst where the floor is lower to play the army well if the command traits are simplified.I'm not expecting SBGL to change much, just hopefully summonables are cheap in points as they should be. SCE should be more fun. NH I think could still change up a bit.At this point I'm mostly hoping for my pet warscrolls (Black Coach, Crawler, Judicators, Deathrattle) to be better.
>>92610898headswap on celennar is actually pretty common, especially with the head of a sphiranx. but i m ok with being special
>>92610836teclis, alarielle, archaon and the mortarchs should have sprues added to their kits that allow you to field them separately from the mountit's not like little timmy wouldn't be obligated to buy the bigger kit anymore
>>92610945I wouldn't be surprised to see Arkhan get a new model in OBR Wave 2. I have doubts they would make him a foot hero though.
>>92610945>and the mortarchsCan't be done without turning one expensive kit that makes you build one character into 1 expensive kit that makes you build all 3 of them, you would increase the value of the kit to the customer without tripling its price.
>>92610998easy to fixmake neffy and manny synergise with completely different sets of units while also not making it possible to field them togethernow you've hooked little timmy into collecting 1 ossiarch army and 2 gravelord armies or else he wastes the potential of the cool kit he bought
>check out Warhammer World's future AoS events>most of them use BoC model photos & artwork in their promoMotherfuckers.
>>92611056the people working at Warhammer worlds are fans working under GW, not people who make decisions at GW
Show me nice Lumineth schemes, please. I need ideas.
>>92611111I think these two are the best combination of simplicity and results since they save you a lot of problems from the trimsa cool idea would be involving colour shift metallics so you get like bismuth effects and also to paint the crests like peacocks feathers
>>92609238That looks like something done by Markydaysaid
>>92611133I love the “Ymetrica alternate” one, I’m fully convinced it was supposed to be the box art scheme and halfway through they realized it was a bit too similar to IDK’s and went with the cream one. Alumnia has chad lore but I’d hate painting the red/white splits so often.
>>92611133the blood elf scheme looks great on them
>>92611133but one problem with lumineth is that the big pieces have this pattern engraved on the armour that's begging you to use a scheme that can create a lot of contrast with its recesses to give that chinese-ceramic effectand unless you go with a white scheme where you can let a wash or just shadows do the job, then any other colour either loses the detail or requires an extensive amount of work
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>>92611056>checkout second hand markets >at least 3-4 different sellers, dumping beastmen in warhammer fantasy setting. >2-3k points each>broken realms sets are popping up to be sold for scrapsI just hope beastboys get a good treatment in ToW
>>92611056Arent those for 3e events where the faction is not only legal, but quite stong and expected to show up?
>>92611176I like the Blood Elf theme on them, too. Was possibly considering a High Elf version of it but I don’t think the blue would translate as well as the red does over the same surfaces.
>>92611176I was originally going to paint mine as BElves and actually had quite a few done but I think I'm going to change it and just use silver/steel for the armor. Still gonna keep the fold trim and red robes, but something about the red just began looking off to me.
>>92611205Strong?
I think I'm ready to call my Lord/knight/questor soulsworn Relictor done.This guy will fill different slots depending on list and points left over.
>>92611287Looks great, but be sure to give him a nice base too.
>>92610836>>92610822>>92610794Ok let me rephrase from my hyperbole, i dont get why he is affiliated with gsg at all. nothing on him works with their aesthetic.It feels like he was designed for BoC, then the decision to cut them, came down.And he was shoehorned with the goblins. Even kruleboys would have been a better fit.
>>92611440>It feels like he was designed for BoC, then the decision to cut them, came down.>And he was shoehorned with the goblins. Even kruleboys would have been a better fit.If the last three years of AoS had been compressed into the past week and Kragnos didn't have rules to be played in any and all Destruction armies, I could maybe get this take. But that's not the case, so what you're saying just confuses me.
>>92609063It's a Pleasure to Serve.A disturbingly high quality porn comic.
>>92611440>It feels like he was designed for BoCNo it doesn't. Does his gear look like the kind of stuff wielded by a race that thinks a chariot is pushing the bounds of innovation?
>>92611440He's in every destruction tome retard. Just like Nagash is in every Death tome despite looking only like OBR
Dropping back in after a few years away: So Beasts of Chaos really are getting squatted, huh?
>>92611582towed, not squatted
>>92611440he doesnt stick out any more than any of the other 20 different types of monsters in destruction.
>>92611702Squatted. Beasts of Chaos doesn't exist anymore. Beastmen for Tota- I mean The Old World.
What are they doing with dwarfs? Soup the 2 main factions? Squat the CoS stuff? Whats the plan with dwarfs for 4th?Give fyreslayers pants? Give KO bareheads?
How often do non-order races work with order? Like, would it be too weird to have an Orruk on a Kharadron crew
>>92611762Shady rumours speculate a Fyrslayer expansion with no other menlet pandering.Pants are an afront to thier culture and will never be included
>>92611704yes, he does
>>92610862No, magic is literally represented by gods.
>>92611762squat dispossessed, keep drons and slayers separate, drons get women, slayers get a makeover and women
>>92611771>Like, would it be too weird to have an Orruk on a Kharadron crewVery, but it happened in one novel, I think.
>>92611704He sticks out by not having the cobbled-together scrap armour aesthetic of every other destruction faction (sans the snarlfang riders, who I really think are or were supposed to be a chorfs unit)
>>92611771Ogres (and less commonly gargants) work with anyone as mercenaries, and orruks certainly could, but it would be rare.
>>92611771Ogors do it every now and then, as seen by the ones in Cities and in the cursed city gang.FEC has done it in novels and storylines such as Lethis.I think thats about it.
>>92611771There were orruk mercenaries working for CoS in some novel, but that shit is rare
>>92611704You missed the part when each of the other guys have an entire army that shares their aesthetic, while he is a lone centaur
>>92611762Why would any of that besides squatting CoS dwarfs be an option?Kharadrons are one of the best AoS factions in terms of aesthetic and representing the setting, while Fyreslayers have a strong little cult of people who like slayers, and been crying for an all slayer army since warhammer fantasy's karak kadrin army list
>>92611771There's a novella where they trade with them and like>>92611895 said, there's another with Ironjawz protecting a city. Ironjawz respect a chance to fight and bravery, but there's no rules for cross alliance stuff beyond Gargants since 2e's mercenary companies
>>92611771in very early aos the setting was still so ill defined that you got occasional mentions of undead unliving alongside mortals or orcs coexisting somewhat normally in cities, that can still be argued to happen from time to time, but I imagine it's way rarer nowwhat definitely never happened is the coexistence of chaos with anyone elseexcept for those early beastmen in hysh that lived peacefully with humans until sigmar decided to exterminate them and the one survivor went to tzeentch and cursed various civilisations to turn into tzaangor twistfraysor those times when fyreslayers were hired as mercenaries by chaos forces, one instance being the decisive siege of one of the last cities of the realm of fire at the dawn of the age of chaos, but fyreslayers have long since regretted and disowned the events and I think the fault is on one subfaction specifically, not on all of them
>>92611981Hollost had a 2e white dwarf campaign faggot, it's not setting breaking
>>92611934It baffle me that people think Kahradon is the same boat as Fyreslayer that they would soup the dwarf factionlike what they need 2-3 units and some heroes?
>>92611981there should be more destruction–chaos alliances
>>92611998And why is that?
>>92612039I like chaos and destruction
>>92611989I'm not saying it's setting breaking, I'm saying it just never really happens
Did Dawnbringers 5: Shadow of Crone got shared here or are we fated to wait more?
what factions that dont deserve their own aos army definitely need ti get their own warcry warband?
>>92612361Silent people
>>92612361Root kings, and a miriad of different cities
>>92612361Spiderfang Bonesplitterz Order of the Furrow
>>92609450Haven't printed any yet so I can't vouch for their quality.https://cults3d.com/en/users/yikixo/3d-models
>>92612361Root kings
>>92612361Root Kings DuardinAetar Celestial Eagles
>>92612361Water Tzeentch band lead by a Chaos Abholon vs a Deepkin band
>>92612361silent people, shadow demons, katophranes, gholemkin, kragnos worshippers
>>92612390>BoneshitterzNot before Ironjawz
>>92612370I fucking love bug people, but I can't stand the silent people illustrations we've got so far.
>>92612407We've not gotten much, what's your problem with the beeople?
>>92611994>Kahradon is the same boatI see what you did here
Root kings would be easy to do, because they just slot into Sylvaneth like Kurnothi did from UW. Silent people are noone's so they would be weird, unless they don't get AoS rules
>>92612437NTG but the eyes being human eye sockets with random bone-webs over them instead of actual bug eyes is a really unappealing design decision
>>92612401>KatophranesHow would that work? From a glance they're just people trapped in shadeglass, it would be a bunch of Han trapped in carbonate going round the board
>>92612453adding gnomes to sylvaneth would be more interesting than adding dwarfsespecially when all people can come up with is fyreslayers but with plants >>92612395
>>92611197I really dislike hate most Lumineth stuff but that looks really nice.
>>92612395Root Kings were described like this at all
>>92611994another melee unit would be cool. also bring back the underworlds kit, it had 2 heroes in it.
>>92612467Isn't that a human skull wearing a silent skull as a mask?
>>92612467To me it seems like thats a mask and not an actual face
>>92612483>another melee unitHow about the mechs that were mentioned somewhere
>>92612487>>92612489Ehhh, maybe. I still don't like the look of the eyes as seen in the other illustration.
has anyone got a scan of the 3e seraphon tome with the lore section? hte one i've got only has the rules half and its kind of a shitty off kilter scan probably from the weekend it first dropped
>>92612467that's a human skull wearing the mask of the silent person
>>92612519>3e seraphon tomefiles<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash zpffb4<dot>pdf
>>92612504
>>92612529much appreciated
>>92612470from what I recall a bunch of them escaped shadespire by fashioning whole suits of shadeglass around themin any case what I was thinking about was mostly just that, perhaps one of the automatons of the city and maybe a gimmicky sculpt where a guy enters a mirror in one base and emerges from another on another baseit's just that the aesthetic they had going on was neat: humans and undead bedecked in very rich looking decorations, broken flat surfaces, sharp edges, maybe even using that for axes and shields
>>92612641
>>92612656
>>92612641Would make for interesting and challenging painting
>>92612728or introduce a new technical paint
do you think armies like chaos and seraphon will retain their summoning mechanics into the new edition? will shit like depravity point pools or cosmic power points still be a thing? or do you think they'll do away with all of that?
>>92611440I don’t know how it’s been like 40 years of Warhammer and people cannot fathom the idea that greenskins are retarded retards who like big guys who break things
>>92612747>chamonites unironically spread sweetened mercury over their toast
>>92612856Why not just use lead?
>>92612839Well, we know that Blood Tithe is still in, so I'd say probably.
Any good proxies for Tzeentch daemons? Considering GW refuses to ever refresh those old ass shit sculpts
>>92611771They can but it depends on the army - Ogres work as mercenaries, giants occasionally can be helpful. Only one I can see never being a good idea to work with is kruleboyz and gloomspite gitz since they're backstabbing bastards.The soulbound destruction book gives some examples too
>>92612866Toasted bread is easier to chew than lead.
>>92613019Ogres are so fun
>>92612979a few of mantic nightstalkerscreature caster demonslost kingdom miniatures possessedrecasts of old horrors
>>92612979Chewed gum and googly eyes.
>>92613085Dang thanks for the good suggestions anonThese guys look especially fitting
>>92613085one page rules too has a range of change demons
Kinda want to get a Shrine Luminor.
>>92612853Ogres and Orcs can pal around but a big horse is out of the question for some reason
Weebnoss
>>92613433still doesn't suit him
>>92613433Kuragunosu.
>>92613433>Owari da, I can't breed.
>>92613433https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY
>>92609434He was Destruction, and then we got squatted. I need to proxy BoC as Orruks now, suits them better anyways.
>>92606853>skaven players crying for years that they want an update>receive update>skaven players cry that they have to purchase new thingsLike clockwork
>>92613661they fit better as std
>>92610862People who are actually magic being able to do magic, while normal dudes who just shout at the sky and hope someone hears, is something that just makes sense.
>>92613433would look better pregnant
>>92613433Greenstuff?
>>92613797
>>92613713I just want new models; I don't want them to fuck with how units work and reinvent them. I wouldn't be bitching if the new WE had a glaive and pistol and could cast spells.
>>92612856>bunch of lore regarding the different realms has to be found in the rpg content made by a another companyWhy is GW so reluctant to give information on the intricacies of the realms?
>>92613957Read a battletome from the first edition and the latest one. They’re taking soul from you
>>92613957Because they have zero foresight so they leave everything as vague as possible so they can fully rewrite everything
>>92613957It's essentially meaningless, they don't care about consistency and mostly pilfer from the creatives like Excelsis being wholesale lifted from BL
>>92614039>1e bonesplitterzLike tears in the rain.
>>92613957Tons of fluff for WHFB and 40k was delivered through their respective roleplaying games. Copious amounts of the worldbuilding done for the Empire, Bretonnia, Kislev, Norsca and elsewhere was done for sourcebooks and campaigns.
With Control replacing Bravery, will SoB mercenaries have Might Makes Right tier objective control outside of SoB allience?
>>92614154not to mention the 30k black books were written by the designer of Dark heresy iirc, and those have some of the best 40k fluff in them.
>>92614092>Excelsis being wholesale lifted from BLWhat, you mean to say that Nick Horth ripped himself off? Oh dear, the scandal.
>>92613433Ok that's fucking sweet.Best Kragnos I have seen.How did you get the armor
>>92613433Not sure on the rest of the model, but the kanabo looks excellent.
>>92614199Definetly not, all "this models counts as X on objectives" type rules are going away
>>92614329Sir they are hard-coding that into the rules via the new stat
>>92614343Yes, and therefore the rules that did that before are being removed
Does the new Warcry book, or any other source for that matter, go into detail about how the different Lumineth temples interact? Like do the River People and Mountain People hate each other or do they plan nature hikes together?
>>92614329>>92614360That's the point. Alience ability will be removed and it will be a warscroll stat instead, meaning all armies using Megas will get it
>>92614369Pyre & Flood does not do that, no. I don't think any novel or novella does, either. To date it hasn't really come up.
Does any kind soul have the Blades of Khorne battle time? I would be eternally grateful if so.
>>92614571*Battletome
>>92614571
>>92614403Then I'm going to assume they enjoy peaceful hikes together in between horrific acts of ecoterrorism.
>>92614580God bless anon
>>92614369Why would any of them hate eachother? What would be the point outside of cramming in grimderp shit
>>92614687I dunno, GW is kinda weird when it comes to that sort of thing. I figured they wouldn't, but it got me wondering
>>92614687They are supposed ti be more arrogant than normal elves, i would expect not hate, but some sort of rivalry bewteen them to occur
>>92614784>more arrogant than normal elvesHow does such a thing possible?
>>92614847NTANormal elves:>Dying race and civilization>Long past their prime>Outnumbered by most races >Retreat to their sanctuary and hate interacting with anything to do with the outside worldAnd those fuckers are already very arrogant, now imagine if their race and civilization were not on the back foot, that they actively expand and venture out into other lands and realms, that they are capable of matching other races in population numbers, and now also have taken on the responsibility of fixing the realms while bringing "civilization" to the barbarians (aka anyone who is not them)Also while being actively backed/commanded by literal gods and the elemental spirits of the landsThe philosophy of the LRL can be very much described as "the white (a)elves burden"
>>92614784My impression is that they just stay in their lane unless called on to aid in a military endeavor.
>>92614847add a magic space bath salt that remove anxiety and "negative" emotions to give a logical mind for half hour before all said emotions floods back in
>>92610870Even his hatred of dragons is poorly explained - doesn't he hate them just because? If he had killed his own people because they betrayed him/x, then that would already be more interesting. As it is, his entire race got wiped out because he felt like bashing some eggs. How GW could drop the ball that hard is really surprising.Giving him character and a more relatable/interesting goal should be priority one. Searching for a means to resurrecting his lost people is a good storyline, especially for one who's main characteristic is being really angry, but they need to follow up on it. Has he featured in the story since he went through the portal?
>>92615116>As it is, his entire race got wiped out because he felt like bashing some eggs. How GW could drop the ball that hard is really surprisingI don’t understand this he’s a destruction god and was always a creature of destruction what do you mean by this this is literally their core spirit of destruction
>>92615116>Even his hatred of dragons is poorly explained - doesn't he hate them just because?Yes, it's literally "just because they were there and looked strong" even though his people were allies with the draconith after they teamed up to mog the thunderscorn
>>92615135I mean the Drogrukh were said to be a pretty alright tribe, so it's not like they're all assholes. Kragnos was just a really strong really angry one before he became a god.>>92615181I guess the best we can hope for is some introspection (which it seems theyre going for a bit) about what his actions caused now with him looking to resurrect them/find survivors.Apparently Gobsprak found some markings by survivors which he destroyed so Kraggy wouldnt see them.
>>92615273>I mean the Drogrukh were said to be a pretty alright tribeThat’s why he’s mad anon he thought they were pussies but they were his
>>92615116anyone got the egg smashing warcom article screenshot, before it was edited to be more serious
>>92606816>TQI don't see Sylvanth or Nighthaunt being worse than they are, if anything I fear they might not get the range refresh/expansions they need.>>92608579Goddamn I hate this model, even including the crusty old Dryads it's the worst in the faction.
>>92615694What don't you like about it
>>92611487>high quality.In form or content? The former I agree with the latter not so much.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPg6JRW7Y78
>>92615720It's easier to list what I like - the right hand and butt cape. Everything else looks either out of place with the faction or like a worse version of something another model has.
Anyone knows whos the authore of those wonderful pieces
What paint brand has the best white and black?
>>92616005if you need black i wouldnt by a mini painting specific one, just any tube of painting acrylics will do
>>92616005For Black, ProAcryl's Coal Black is the best I've found. Their white is a good, bright white, but I find it CHALKY AS HELL also a bit gritty? As in there's little particles of something in it that you don't see until it's dried.
>>92616005>blackEither Proacryl Coal Black or Vallejo Model Color Black>Whiteehhhhh Pro Acryl Titanium White and Vallejo Premium White are pretty good but I've never met a brand that didn't occasionally have a bad pot
>>92608754Post more, coward.
>>92616005Apple barrel
>playing disciples of tzeentch>roll six sixes on destiny dice>opponent has one unified drop>plop a burning sigil in their way>fail to kill any models, only splash 2 wounds on a character (bonereapers so who cares)>kairos is 30" away from all enemies, gets 3 casts for objective>faff about some other spells, fail to do any mortals before the magister put tag -1 to saves on their mortek>chuck an 11 on the magister's spell, get 3mw's on the mortek>ward saves all 3Just as Tzeentch intended.
>>92606816I like all 3 of my armies so as long as they play similar and have the same lore, I can't be fucked
so if no form of battleshock is staying in the game, what will undead's new shtick be without 10 bravery/obr's immune to battleshock?
>>92613797But where does the bump go? In the humanoid part or the horse part?
>>92616632pretty much the entirety of death is getting an overhaul as they've been hinting at for the past week or so.
>>92616777Both
>>92616632reviving
>>92616027I've found both the yellows and whites to be pretty chalky from pro acryl. Love their other colors though.
>>92614377You're assuming the ability to take Gargants outside SoB will still exist. We don't even have confirmation that Allies are still a thing, let alone the mercenary giants rule.
>>92616632Their players will have to learn not to suck dick, but I don't have high hopes. So probably crazy fucking recursion.
>>92616991I'm wary to try any more. I bought their Rich Gold and it's super bright and kinda bad on coverage.
>>92617241I just have the base set so far tbf. Also haven't tried any fancy single pigments like Kimera or whatnot.
>>92617202Removing non-SoB gargants totally would completely kill the sales of their kits40k 10th still lets you take knights outside of their own armies
>>926173838th edition you could soup superfactions freely
>>92617424Uh, that's correct. And?
>>92617202All regiments of renown are confirmed to be updated, so I don’t imagine they’ll be the only way to soup
>>92617486souping is a disease. it should be every faction for themselves.
>>92617502Okay then in that case the aleguzzler gargant should be moved or copypasted to mawtribes and every chaos book needs half of the StD shit ported over
>>92617502>Local Man Who Has Never Played Game Comments On Game
>>92617520your cumguzzler or whatever should simply be destroyed.>>92617593very true
>>92617502But then I'll have to play gross lame slaves to darkness to use my soul grinders
>>92617486I actually strongly suspect that WILL be the only way to soup. But the mercenary megagargants could be one-man RoRs, I guess.
>>92609194Do share
>>92617621why do you use a soul grinder at all? not even meming thats a model I just do not understand the appeal of at all
>TQDepends on if Paladins are going to be squat or resculpt, and even then it would make sense for Knights Excelsior to have a lot of Ruination Chamber stuff.
>>92617995four of my autistic fixations are cyborgs, hydraulic claws, non-standard -taur monsters, and anachronistic machinery in fantasy settingsif the soul grinder also had an animal skull for a face it would be the perfect storm
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>>92618059>animal skullthats an easy conversion at least.
are there multiple curselings in lore currently?and is there a reason given why they all look like vilitch and his brother?
>>92618297curseling is a generic unit in aos yesthey did slightly change the design when they made it plastic
Lorewise what's the difference between a slaves to darkness army dedicated to one God and then the monogod faction like disciples of tzeench ?
>>92618391Slaves to Darkness, even if they have a god's mark, carry out Archaeon's (or Be'lakor's) will first THEN do what their patron god says. Because if they were to go whole hog and entirely give themselves over to a god they wouldn't be in StD, they would be in the monogod army. While the monogods live and breathe their chosen deity.
>>92618391Dedication.
>>92618391>what's the difference between a slaves to darkness army dedicated to one God and then the monogod faction like disciples of tzeench ?Depends on the strength of their autism. Some spergs love the avengers but the deepest spergs end up attached to one xman or spiderboy
>>92612361What ever faction you've purchased the most of should be squatted and allocated to warcry
should i get a second frigate? came into some cash, i want to fill out my KO.so far i've got1 ironclad1 frigate3 gunhaulers 9 endrinriggers10 arkanauts5 thunderersbrokk converted into generic endrinmasterendrinmaster on footcommemorative keg guymore arkanauts and thunderers are definitely on the menu but i'm on the fence about weather i should pick up another frigate. it is a cool model
>>92618391monogod armies are all devout fanatics of their patron god, while StD monogod worshipers do it closer to a hobby and dont devote themselves as much.Also the god specific daemons
>>92615922maybe traditional painting from kevin chin? I swear we had the answer once
I have 3 armies. 2 I love painting and playing with the other I'm kind of myeh about. It's SBGL, only got them because I found a cheap way to do it via getting Cursed City
>>92618937I think it was in an issue of WD from around 2017 or something. I'll have a look around, see if I can find it.
>>92606816>StormcastAlready been fucked, it can only get better from here>IronjawzI predict they get desouped, but also probably lose something integral like smashin and bashin>GloomspiteGobbos have sold super well at LGS since they stopped playing like ass, so maybe James keeps them strong.>OBRWill get a terrible nonfunctional index, then 2 years later get a completely broken tome.>SeraphonIndex will be coalesced only, they get a late tome (but new skinks and guard released alongside it)>DoKDoomfire warlocks become OP in order for James to move those models, it works and the lesson James learns is that DoK players want more male units.>KhorneSTILL somehow remains a high skill, complex army instead of the dumb fun time they should be.>IDKNo new releases of note, they stopped selling when they stopped being OP, so James brings back eel spam.>KruleboyzNo new releases this edition, get Bonesplittered in 5th>SlaaneshWill be massively OP in their index, then get a tome next year which is even worse than the last one.I have too much warhammer...
>>92618999>IDKIsn't shark spam currently strong right now ?From what I saw, they have enough tools to stall the game until round 3, while annoying most armies with shooting.The only real hard counter are magic spammers and heavy cavalry with run'n'charge or 3d6 change
>>92619067Sharks is a thing sure, but it ain't shit on 2nd edition Eel spam.
>>92619067
>>92618999Sometimes I wonder if people on this forum have anything positive to say about the things they enjoy and stop doomposting for 5 minutes. 80% of that post is just the sad expectation of not having a good time.
>>92619129The thread question was "How badly do you think your army will get fucked over?" That kind of sets the tone for any reaponses anon.I'm actually pretty optimistic for 4th.
>>92619129I dont know, the attitude towards 4th edition, apart from that squatting shit, has been pretty positive, and I think reception of 3rd was largely positive apart from battle tactics. The balance was much better than 2nd and Matt rose seems to generally be taking the game in a good direction compared to its first few editions
full command on sub 5 man cavalry units is fucking dumb.
>>92619255>2 MSU for Mournfang Pack >1 in 4 Champion, banner bearer and musician They look so bad on the table, they could've warscroll split the options and fleshed out BCR with a BSB and little buffer horn blower hero
>>92619255I heavily dislike command models that are completely unarmedI play Seraphon and so many command models just have the guy running around with no weapon at allI always convert/kitbash mine to at least have their weapon holstered or on their back
>>92619340i was going to pick up some agradon lancers and have contemplated just not giving them musicians or standards for this reason. like, i've got 3 guys in the unit and 1 guy is 100% drums and the other guy is holding a stone flag? who's doing the fighting? maybe the captain just has 15 attacks
>>92619346For the standard bearer I took his lance, cut off and shaved down the arm and hand, then glued it to his backFor the drummer I put the shield AND one drumstick on the left hand and then I gave him the normal lance in the right hand, and put the right drumstick holstered next to the drum
>>92619146That's good to hear, sorry I skipped over the TQ. Still, the TQ does represent quite well the usual doom and gloom contrarianism that usually goes on here. I do hope you have plenty of fun in 4th though, and that your factions will get new interesting units
>>92619346It's easy enough to put the drums on the dino but give the rider a weapon and shield.
>>92619388i've got a bunch of left over bone and steel warhorns from my mawtribes and warclans, so i'll probably just glue one of those to the side of the saddle or somethingi cant imagine some guy actually trying to play the drums while being jostled around by a galloping velociraptor
Can Ironjawz ever be strong competitively?Their toolset is so potentially oppressive that if they are ever actually good they would be broken.Even when they are bottom tier competitively they absolutely destroy low to average skill players.
Is there a Overlords of the Iron Dragon about the dragon the captain wants revenge on? Kind of annoying we get heaps of Drekki shit when the original recurring KO lit isn't even concluded, with them never facing Gazul again?
>>92619623There's probably half a dozen series out of Black Library that I'd like to see completed but which they have quietly abandoned.
>We're squatting cultists >Temporarily out of stock before announcement with no change since Are they waiting for one last production push or is everything already gone and lazily excluded from the last chance to buy category?
>>92619428dont really understand you question.are there competitive strong armies right now that are not ass to play against as a casual player?
>>92619676gone
>>92619676gone forever likely. With how money grubby GW likes to be I’m shocked that they didn’t at least say “Hey for the next month all these kits are available on a MTO basis” to make as much money off FOMO as possible. I know I would have at least grabbed the two warbands I’m missing.
>>92619676It's unclear. GW did not communicate very well at all about what's going on here
I have some lore questios bros...F Sylvaneth are the guardians of nature and plantlife, do they ever attack other order factions like CoS or KO for polluting the rivers and sky, mining the earth and clearing forests for wood? Also, are chaos warbands perpetually at war? Are there instances where the set camp, create plans and organize their forces from command tents? do they need to eat if they're mortals or do they just endlessly march? are new mortal followers pulled exclusively from the northern tribes or was that an old world thing?If the mortal realms are seperated by portals and exist in different space (like Alara from MTG), shouldn't they be heavily guarded and fortified by whoever manages to control it?gameplay question: wahapedia says that maggotkin can take khorne, slaanesh, and StD units (excluding those that have a tzeentch keyword or can/must take a Mark of chaos), so I can't take chaos warriors in my maggotkin list right? But I CAN take a darkoath chief? that seems pretty dumb. Wouldn't it make more sense if they lose the Mark of chaos keyword or if it automatically becomes nurgle (and loses it's perks for the sake of balance ofc)? I wanted to kitbash some cool, putrid green chaos warriors..
>>92620126>F Sylvaneth are the guardians of nature and plantlife, do they ever attack other order factions like CoS or KO for polluting the rivers and sky, mining the earth and clearing forests for wood?Greywater Fastness is basically at war with the Sylvaneth specifically for that >If the mortal realms are seperated by portals and exist in different space (like Alara from MTG), shouldn't they be heavily guarded and fortified by whoever manages to control it?They are. Some of the biggest fortresses in the realms have been built specifically to defend a realmgate, and realmgates are some of the most important strategic points every time there is a war.
>>92619850Ironjawz alpha strike you turn 1, and if you don't screen properly you've got pigs charging 3d6 straight into your army's gooey center.I had to stop playing Ironjawz because at the level my local scene is they just ran wild.However against strong players they kind of fold, because that shock and awe is all they have.
>>92620126>If the mortal realms are seperated by portals and exist in different space (like Alara from MTG), shouldn't they be heavily guarded and fortified by whoever manages to control it?thats why the so called eightpoints are so heavily fought over. its like a sub-realm, where gates to the other realms are located in close proximity to each other. Archaon has his base of operation and giant fortress there afaik. https://ageofsigmar.fandom.com/wiki/Eightpoints
>>92620126>If the mortal realms are seperated by portals and exist in different space (like Alara from MTG), shouldn't they be heavily guarded and fortified by whoever manages to control it?They pretty much are, the most important strategic points in the setting are generally on those. Think of them as kind of akin to a river fort in real geography
are there any good alternatives to the stormcast dragon flight stands besides that fire breath 3d print?
>>92620226>>92620173>>92620207thanks, it makes sense now. >where gates to the other realms are located in close proximity to each othersounds like the Holiday-door forest from The Nightmare Before Christmasis this how chaos bands and hosts primarily cross and invade other realms? Do some factions exist in other realms but not in some? Are there orcs in Shyish or lumineth in Ghur or does it depend on the story and race's reasons for delving into other realms?thanks
>>92620251Not dragons but something like this should work for them too.
>>92620251Conveniontly placed structure that the dragon is brushing off of innthe connection point
>>92620359thats really smart
>>92620301>Do some factions exist in other realms but not in some?Each faction has a realm they call home, but enough of them have spread out over the years so you can justify your dudes being wherever.For example, Orruks are from Ghur and most commonly found there, but there's also plenty that have invaded Shyish for shits and giggles.
>>92620301>sounds like the Holiday-door forest from The Nightmare Before ChristmasYeah it's pretty much like that>is this how chaos bands and hosts primarily cross and invade other realms? Yeah. But you have to understand that the realms are 99% chaos cultists. Most of the time they don't need to invade anything because they are already there. They are the other great alliances that need the realmgates most.>Do some factions exist in other realms but not in some?Most factions have a realm where they are more prevalent, but everyone can have a presence somewhere. Realms are big. The only exception to this is Azyr, the realm of Heaven, because when Chaos was invading everything Sigmar closed the gates of Azyr and then spent a shitload of time purging everyone else from it.
>>92620363Thank you anon.Sadly my deepkin army remains on ice because I want to go all the way with it, liquid resin water bases and all, the project keeps getting bigger and I keep putting it off.
>>92620301As other anon said, chaos is everywhere pretty much, most humans worship chaos instead. It's an interesting inversion of 40k because the forces of order are on the offensive for the most part, and you've even got functional chaos nations and civilians. But yeah, most realms have a 'native' faction, but the factions go everywhere. Shyish is the realm of death so it's where necromancy is most prominent, but there are vampires and skeletons in all places death magic is strong - and there are also normal humans living in shyish as well, who deal with the fact that the dead sometimes reawaken differently, sometimes via salt in front of their doors and other times via hiring the skeleton of their great uncle as a house servant
>Riverblades don't have AelementiriBut why?
>>92620549Who said they don't?
>>92620614The AoS App
>>92620549They're not sylvaneth
So how do demons get summoned into the mortal realms?
>>92620661They just wander in on their own or a mortal performs the correct rites to call them forth.
>>92620661A specific ritual i remember involves fucking with a realmgate to make it connect to the Warp instead of another gate, allowing a greter demon to pass into the Materium
NTA but I wish GW would make a compendium or some sort of supplement dedicated to fleshing out the main continents of the realms we have. It kinda sucks we have to wait for progressive world building with product releases when there’s a lot of stuff that’s already there that can be touched upon
Battle tactics article today makes or breaks 4th.
If I buy a battletome, does it come with a QR code that I can use to see digital points values and updated warscrolls on my phone or something? Do I need to download some kind of app? Some LGS that I've been looking at near me might require you to own one.
>>92620877Yes, but it would be incredibly stupid to buy a battletome like a month before it get invalidated completely.
>>92620877There's a code for the app that unlocks battle traits, artefacts, etc but all warscrolls and points are free - on the app or GW's webstore/warscroll builder
That's right, we're still doing battle tactics.https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/26/battle-tactics-are-the-key-to-winning-in-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-heres-how-they-work-in-newaos/
>>92620945Take the Flanks just feels weird for a wargame, offering incentives for random undiegetic movement
>>92620978It's ironic considering there are no flanking bonuses for combat at least.
>instead of playing the mission we told you to play, execute these meaningless tasks that don't accomplish anything to win the gameHas there ever been a worse scoring mechanic than battle tactics?
>>92620945these look incredibly unfun. time to ignore them for another 3 years.
>>92620945Do I need at least 1 unit not in 6" of enemy units in each quarter of the map or can't I have any units in 6" of enemies?
>>92621005muh matched play
>>92620945Ok so not on the game side of the hobby is this good or bad? And improvement or worsen
>>92621025We had matched pkay for 2 editions before this dogshit showed up.
>>92621017one for each quarter, it is written pretty clearly
>>92620945It seems there are no army specific battle tactics this time, so that gives me hope that some armies are not strong just because their BTs are piss easy.
The downed ship makes for a cool terrain piece.
>Next week, we’ll be pulling back the curtain on Spearhead – the fast and furious new game mode for Age of Sigmar – and learning more about the changes to endless spells, invocations, and faction terrain in the new edition. Perhaps there will even be a shiny new miniature! You’ll just have to wait and see.Oh boy! ANOTHER model!!!
>>92621016You literally can't.Or I guess you can, and turn the game into everything AoS haters say AoS is- a mosh pit where first double turn wins.Battle tactics aren't even a 'module' they are fucking BAKED INTO the game. The only thing mitigating a double IS battle tactics.All the fags suckin Matt Rose's dick need to shut the fuck up now.LOOKING AT YOU HEYWOAH. I know your faggot mods are in this thread.
>>92621005>Upon completing that battle tactic you’ll be rewarded with four valuable victory points, to supplement the six you can score each round from that game’s battleplan.
>>92621128ok hades
>>92621121It'll just be an updated Pursuer.
>>92621128>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqk8rPcS7I&t=1stwo very experienced players, 1-2 double game over.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIMpN6c26q4&t=two very experienced players, 1-2 double game over.battle tactics aren't saving it.
>>92621111Hey, there's the old, pre-mega King Brodd conversion in the bottom left
>>92621128>You heccin have to play the ghb battlepackarino! I don't actually. Take a shower fatty
>>92621186They should’ve put the new one in that same shot for the funny.
>>92620978I remember 40k 9th had a few like that, to the point where some previously dogshit units were now "good" because you could deep strike them into the middle of nowhere, score an objective for that, and forget about them
would any le epic anons post the bonereapers battletome, thankayu
>>92620896yeah I know, it pisses me off that we're so close to the new edition that it's not worth reading any rules.yet the new edition is still a time away and I could be using this time to study the rules or try playing but it makes me question what rules are even worth using >>92620918>>92620918thanks, I got the app now and it's much better than loading slow-ass wahapedia just to check 1 warscroll and build an army in notes or a tab I refuse to close. >>92621111how is shit even supposed to hit a KO vessel? if you don't have magic or loads of artillery then how would orcs take down a frigate? when even disembark when you can just blast them from the air? I'm assuming the giants threw rocks at it or something
>>92620945>using that ugly hipster mf kragnos as the destruction representation
>>92621121It's almost like the new edition isn't for another two months and they're drip feeding content rather than splurging everything at once.
>>92621276He's Destruction's Warmaster. If anything, Krondys sticks out
>>92621284>Krondys sticks outstill better than putting the celestant prime or yndrasta in there
>>92621284They used each alliance biggest commander, i'm sure ypu can ally Kronys with most order armies
>>92621284>He's Destruction's Warmaster.We need a rogue idol of gorkamorka as a special character
sloppity bilepiper or spoilpox scrivener if I'm running 20 poxwalkers and no other daemons?
>>92621381If they have any sense they'll add that to one of the armies.Who am I kidding, we are never getting it back. Make your own model and use it as a Kraggy stand in.
>>92621381>hey i know, lets take games workshops worst model and make it the face of 1/4 of the armies in the gameplz no. as much as kragnos is a literal who, at least he's decently sculpted and something new. rogue idol is the worst model GW has done by far and you could do a better job grabbing chunks of concrete and rocks out of the street and sticking them together. fuck it looks terrible.
rogue idolz were the heart of bonesplittaz
I dislike how everyone hates Sigmar. He has no friends and he smells according to every single other person. His stormcast don’t even like him. The dwarves are obligated to help, the trees hate him, the elves really hate him. Why GW? I don’t want the fantasy space setting sigmar 40000 please switch it up
>>92621381Not everyone in Destro gives a fuck about Gorkamorka. Kragnoss has no universal fallowing either, but within his character him leading is purely might makes right, where he beats up your general and leads your intimidated troops like in his BR book
>>92621439I'm not saying ro bring back the resin turd, grotbrain
>>92621455Dragons like Sigmar. that's a pretty big flex
>>92621232Magic Artillery Or clever use of landmarks and magical phenomena like megaliths, floating islands, and just running really fast off a cliff
>>92621455>>92621464Also Ironjawz in their own "special" way
>>92621474Also rocks are artillery yes so is grots and other orruks
>>92621381i'd rather have a HUGE mega gargant sized orc or trogg all hopped up on too much waaagh energy or some kind of primordial troggoth godbeast spawnbigmusclesbig musclessmash with big muscleshuge fiststhats what i want for the destruction centerpiece
>>92621457>Not everyone in Destro gives a fuck about Gorkamorka.Yes, they do, the gulping god, the godstompa, the everwinter, the spider god, the bad moon, they all have myths connecting them to gorkamorka or straight up saying it's gorkamorkaNo matter how much you want to pretend otherwise
>>92621455>I dislike how everyone hates Sigmarthat's not true at all
>>92621455No, good has to be actually mean and dumb and bitter
>>92621457one of the big AoS rewrites is like >>92621495said, all the destruction factions now have ties to gorkamorka
>>92621491>HUGE mega gargant sized orc all hopped up on too much waaagh energyThat's just a rogue idol but with less rocky texture and more green swirly bits and unfortunately troggs set their upper limit with trugg as of now
>>92621397scrivener +1 attack seems best, +1 rend or save is a good alternative too
what is the troglodon good for? is it kind of a mix of monster and support?wondering if i should get a second seraphon vanguard to build a troglodon or just get more sarus and krox separately. i havent actually seen anyone talk about the troglodon like ever
Once again they show us the Ossiarch terrain that they’re never going to sell. At least we’re going to get a 14th variety of Gnarloak for $60+tax+tip
>>92621636its a shame.
>>92621636Sieges in AoS? lmao just put some trees down, a little prep minigame is enough to simulate things :)I seethe every time they reprint those rules
>>92621636I think it was custom built.
>>92621573>what is the troglodon good for?To the extent that I've ever seen it used, it's normally as a durable spell range extender using the Kroak/Slaan ability to cast through a skink.
>>92621636They were sold, but only to VIPs. You weren't on the list
>>92621573I like the -1 to hit aura a lot. I try to fit one into almost all of my lists, but that's also just because I like the model. It used to be busted when the tome just came out because people would teleport it up and then spam kroak spells through it, but that was nerfed.
>>92621683I have to ask, and never get a clear answer when I do; what do you expect a “siege” game mode to look like with AoS’s ruleset? One army taking potshots at another behind a wall or what?
>>92621573You dont have to buy a second vanguard if you just want it for the Troglodon, you can make a "submerged one" with the left over parts, or 3d print the torso and combine it with the leftover parts. But if youre looking for an exact one , just buy it off of trolltrader.
>>92621755We've got actual scans of the thing, you can print an exact oneWe even got alternative versions of the head so the mouth is open
>>92621211Ah, the one time Mutilators were actually good...
>>92621755the opposite actually. i want the krox and the saurus but im on the fence about a troglodon. but it sounds like people are pretty positive on it so i may just get the 2nd vanguard to build one
>>92621775i've unfortunately had to pack up my printer for the next few years because we have a rambunctious toddler in the house. dont want him getting into the chemicals, so its GW plastic or bust for me for the next couple of years
>>92621755There's always recasts for getting the most out of kits
>>92620945These look better so far. Good counter play with counter-charge, counter-shoot, and counter-spell too.
>>92620978Its copying surround and destroy which is one of the better tactics they've come up with to get you to think ahead about something other than straight up ungabunga in both listbuilding and on the board. It was also one of the more successful things at providing an incentive to go first.
>>92611179literally what pin washes are for you mong
>>92621878How is this better. It will be an even shallower pool of BTs, and since it's 2/5 your score, if you don't list buld for then you will lose, full stop. People wanted less emphasis on BT, not more. Once again, the only disadvantage to the fucking double is you miss BT. You don't even get a CP bump for going second.While I'm glad they admitted that they can't balance for shit and removed faction BT, looking at what they previewed, the Death one is an auto complete, the Order one is shit if you are a slower or more elite army, the Chaos one is nearly auto complete, and the Destruction one is shit. Off to a great start.>>92621187Hey dumb fuck, the same 'only disadvantage to a double is no BT' exists in the 'First Blood' missions as well. So far it's the only thing to try to stop you from always taking a double and see >>92621182 - even with stronger incentives not too, good players STILL do it>>92621153Lmao that fag always making retarded comments in Warhammer Weeky? Fuck that idiot I bet it's that loser Mr. Mephisto too scared to show his face after he looked like a retard on his last appearance
>>92615922>>92618937>>92618998Found it. I just had to jog my memory a little. Phil Moss is the painter. I'd seen them on his IG before but didn't immediately make the connection because they're oil paintings and I mostly have his pencil art & digital paintings in mind.https://www.instagram.com/phil__moss/p/B6Sq3QlnI_R
>>92622265>How is this better.none of the 3 core bts are auto complete, they all interact with listbuilding, they all have counterplay potential for both players, they're all tactically interactive. If you're complaining about these then you're just a mong who wanted 5x pick a unit to kill or obj to capture.
>>92618855As a sperg dedicated Gambit I now understand what you mean.
>page 10Get out.>>92622454>>92622454>>92622454
>>92611197I love it!
