I'm probably stating the obvious.
>>92689305Compare
>>92689316
How new are you, exactly?
I dunno, ask /40kg/
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>>92689305>Aren't the Tau a straight visual copy of the SW trade federation?
>>92689305No because the Tau will fart on you until you comply, and you will because their farts promote harmony.The Tau are my 40k dropoff point desu. When those lil blue niggas arrived I was outskis
>>92689305Yes wearing armour lifted from the droid design.
>>92689305>>92689308We've known this sine the beginning. 40k stealing all of its ideas from other, better, scifi is as old as 40k.
>>92692792It's been 23 years.
>>92692792I was sorta interested in 40k but then some guys told me I couldn't field an army of nids being ridden by orks using joysticks wired into the nids' heads because those factions don't ally.
>>92692961That's a neat idea.>>92692894Yep, I have been playing other shit since Newcrons. Female custodes? Lol amateur hour
>>92692894>It's been 23 years.it's been 42 years.you dumbass.
>>92693151Thanks; I was mostly interested in the game because I like making 28mm models.
>>92693651The Tau came out in 2001.>>92693151Move hte fuck on with your life fagtard.
>>92693946Yeah, I have been playing other stuff for 20 years, paypiglet
>>92693946>The Tau came out in 2001.And the Star wars prequels?
>>92692764>Codex: Tau (2001)>Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (1999)
>>92694539https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A
>>92692764This you?
>>92694651>This you?sure. who are you again?
>>9269276440k is a copy of dune.
Weren't they a copy of the Protoss?
>>92692764It's funny because the first guy was right, almost every mmo was a cheap copy of wow at that time.
>>92695083>40k is a copy of dune.except for the superhuman soldiers wearing tank armor, while wielding full-auto-rocket-launchers.... and the literal demons from hell, and the 60 million year old conflict between the elves and the terminators.....And the Zerg.
>>92695108you should hire a lawyer.you could get a percentage as a finders fee, for bringing this to blizzards attention.
>>92695120Yes, they also copied Starship Troopers.
>>92695137That's something that everyone knew, even Blizzard knew it.
>>92695157dude, you could get money.where did it come from?Sue till you get the right answer!!!
>>92695095The Protoss are the Eldar, anon.
>>92689305Gav Thorpe was the guy who was most responsible for the creation of the T'au. He was a Star Wars fan, but his initial design for the Tau was very different. They were originally "Warhammer Fantasy Lizardmen, but in Spaaaaace" the way Eldar are WHF elves in space. Their aesthetics changed drastically by the time they made it to print, though his fire/earth/air/water/spirit caste thing stayed, and a lot of thematic stuff remained. That said, I would not be surprised to hear that whoever it was along the pipeline that cooked up the finalised aesthetics of the T'au were thinking of the Trade Federation guys. 40k steals from everywhere, so it's not like it'd be new or unusual.
>>92695182Retard
>>92695242Yes, but later they copied the Protoss to create the Tau.
>>92695450>Warhammer Fantasy Lizardmen, but in Spaaaaace" It was a mistake not to do it that way
>>92689305I would have say both are reworked "tall grey" type of aliens but sure.
>>92695083Not a copy. Dune is just one of many better IPs they shamelessly ripped things from and then, somehow, convinced a generation of nerds that they invented sci-fi and Latin.
>>92692746Found the redshirt
>>92695120Yes, they also copied Nemesis the Warlock.
>>92689305they seem to be a mish mash of the Trade Federation and Bungie's Halo/Marathon.Some vehicles are straight rips off Halo/trade federation, colour scheme is ripped off trade federation. Icon is ripped off Marathon. Oriental aliens is ripped off trade federation.The theme of an alien coalition is Halo/Marathon
>>92689305Nope, they're a straight up rip off of Fading Sun's Vau. >hierarchical cast society with Orientalism>ruled by mysterious cast with unknown origins >high tech energy weapons more advanced than imperial understanding >collection of protectorate races They added mecha to it because big robot goes boooooooom and that's about it. They really went so low as to just change 1 letter in the name.
>>92692894>It’s been twenty years Candy
>>92689305They take more inspiration from Stargate then they do from Star Wars>40K: Tau commander who went rogue, ie "betrayed" the Tau, is named O'Shovah>SG: The Goa'uld word for traitor is Shol'va>40K: The Tau use Base 8 maths>SG: The Ancients use Baste 8 maths>40K: Tau alphabet is tall, blocky rectangular letters>SG: Ancient alphabet is tall, blocky rectangular letters>40K: Tau design elements regularly include circles and round shapes>SG: Ancient (Including the Stargate) design elements regularly include circles and round shapes>40K: The Tau originated from a planet they call T'au>SG: Humans from Earth are known as Tau'ri, meaning "First Ones" or "Those from the first world">40K: The Tau divide themselves up into 5 Castes, the most recent/"Fifth Caste" to appear being the great leaders who have unified their people and lead them into a new age>SG: There was once an alliance of 4 Great Races, then the Tau'ri (humans from Earth) showed, became the "Fifth Race" and are leading the Galaxy into a new age>40K: The Tau have an auxiliary race called the Nagi who are alien worms that can use mind control>SG: The Goa'uld are alien snakes that can burrow into your head and control you
>>92694028>The failed mating call of the larping gameletPlease, stop caring about things you don't touch, and get on with your life.
they are so obviously Halo>space pope Ethereal>halo hover bike>halo tank>flying bug unit>birdmen units
>>92696153>better
>>92698140Yes
>KrootTargonnians
The Tau are not capitalists.
>>92698334I said in terms of visual design, not lore.
>>92698004GOOLD?
>>92689305What’s the general consensus on a Tau-TF war? I think the Tau will shit stomp anything in a ground battle but lose in the space campaign since TF ftl is a lot more faster and they can shit out Lucrehulk’s at much more faster rate.
>>92698475the what
>>92698482A war between the Tau Empire and the Trade Federation.
>>92698506TF would win.
>>92698475You need to specify which universe that's happening in for anyone to even begin to evaluate the question you pose.
>>92698556A portal 1,000 kilometres in length and height that connects the eastern portion of the Tau Empire with the western portion of TF controlled space, both sides respective ftl methods work in both universes.
>>92692961look up looted carnifex
>>92698017>don't criticise my corporation for overcooking a game you used to enjoy!I will do what I want
>>92698625>west >in spaceFuck me this game is retarded
>>92698912>being one of those posters
>>92698912> Fuck me this game is retardedIt might be more myself being retarded, directions on a galactic level have always confused me and I’m still confused about shit below and above the galactic plain
>>92698964its not an issue at all, people say stuff like that think they are smart. But it is possibly to orientate yourself in space
>>92689305Warhammer has a few of these issues. I wonder if it will effect their TV/movie projects.Terminator, same name as used in a scifi movieGenestealer = AlienDreadnought = Ed 209
>>92689305>>92698004>>92698125All those are correct. GW just mixed their ingredients
>>92699003Terminator is the only real problematic name from an IP law PoV
>>92699025It doesn't hold up as there's no room for brand confusion or infringement. While it is distinct enough to not blend into the mileau of basic definitions (even if Starcraft Marines and 40k Space Marines are both bulky blue armored soldiers, a 'marine' is an extremely common term. You couldn't make a case for IP infringement because the idea being associated with the word is as lexicological common as a 'soldier' or 'warrior'.) there is no similarity between Cameron's Terminator and the space marine Terminator armored troops.This is why you can find identical brand names for a variety of disparate things; for example, there is a "Fireball" Whiskey, but there is also a "Fireball" tool company. There is also a "Fireball" brand of car paint and wash and "Fireball" branding, which is a parent company for a variety of automotive brands. As long as there's no confusion between the brands the names do not infringe, someone reasonable will not be going to the store to buy a "Fireball" automotive shampoo and walk out with a bottle of "Fireball" whiskey by mistake.
>>92695799Anon you are the only drop of correct reasonableness in this heaving sea of retarded faggotry that makes up this thread.
>>92698140If your implying that Dune, Starship Troopers and Judge Dredd are worse than the drivel that is 40K then you're either a troll or completely fucking brain dead.
>>92696153>Latin.You won't fool me, they ripped that from Harry Potter. Same as Psykers.
>>92689305Now there are two of them
>>92692764>remember when penny arcade was goodnostalgia hurts bros
>>92696153>says it's a ripoff of better IPs>fails to name even a single one
>>92696153really I say it's a problem I call "Artistic Inbreeding" the fathers and mother of sci-fi and fantasy like Ed Rice Burrows, Wells, Verne, Mary Shelly, Tolkien and Robert Howard had a wide repertoire of tastes, knowledge of different subjects and curiosity. Their works where informed by a world beginning to be fully explored and ancient traditions, where people would remember long poems to recite for fun at parties. The managerial class wasn't able to make mass media empires yet to make bland and "appealing to a wide audience" as an industrialised effort.They would have been raised with old aristocratic educations or rural old schoolhouses instead of the one adopted to make everyone a compliant line factory worker we have now.They made their stuff, it got popular, imaginitive kids saw it, grew up, made things, and did their own stories/settings inspiring others. the list of inspiration and level of imagination went down every time as they become increasingly insular of lessening outside influences.Now the fuckers like JJ abrams took star wars and trek and mimicked the form and aesthetic, it's like that all over entertainment. Like Hapsburgs or a Chinese dynasty on it's last legs, people like it because it's popular with the leading cliques and what they're supposed to like, they are nothing like the wild past they come from.
>>92698973The cardinal directions in space are rimward, coreward, spinward, and counterspinward.
>>92701790Even the guys you mentioned borrowed heavily from existing mythologies and real world beliefs on what could be technologically possible in the future"Creativity" is just your brain mashing together concepts it is familiar with Corporate suits are risk adverse and like to milk trendy tropes to death, but there is always something else that becomes popular when the current thing has been used up
>>92689305What because they are both Asian coded?Seems kinda racist of you.
>>92702125The only thing I envy from the WH40K Imperium is its size. Sometimes I really wish the Traveller Imperium had been designed as big.
>>92702310yeah its exactly that they are oriental
>>92695523This
>>92689305Trade federation is obviously based on middle east like Iran, Iraq...Tau is just plain azns (Japs and Chinks)
>>92703462I don't. Either you'd have to scale up the FTL system, which would remove the system-in-a-bottle feel that jump drives create, or it would be stupid because no even vaguely centralized state could exist.
>>92703462Traveller interested me but I never looked very deep into it. QRD?
>>92698460thank you hammondposter
>>92707614Not totally, you could change the scale of the map and Jump Drives fairly easily, even keeping the relative density and travel times consistent. Tweaking the map configurations and power blocs to make if fit into something that covers most of a galaxy is a bit trickier. Not that I'd mind adding in some minor empires/powers, but that would probably bother the traditionalists.>>92711210how about this?https://www.travellerrpg.com/threads/intro-to-traveller-in-a-nutshell.5125/
How about a ring shaped map where the inner areas are unavailable?
Tau are obviously inspired by Israel to the point its kinda hilarious. None of the writers will admit it though
>>92697146It's strange that everyone ignored you, but you're right.
>>92698907Then you will be a pathetic loser who doesn't love anything.
>>92692961what absolute cunt said you cant do that?
>>92695083>>9269512040k is a copy of Foundation, not Dune.
>>92714232Hari Seldon would disagree.
>>92695083the David Lynch version or the peculiar un-filmed Alejandro Jodorowsky version?>>92695145better than the film version of Starship Troopers? and did anyone bother to mention (even in passing) to Verhoeven that the Mobile Infantry was meant to be in Power Armor and they always carried nukes?
>>92714569>and did anyone bother to mention (even in passing) to Verhoeven that the Mobile Infantry was meant to be in Power Armor and they always carried nukes?They probably did but it was more than likely vetoed by Verhoeven‘s mega reeee whenever it was brought up.
>>92702125You're forgetting a whole axis. Space is 3D dingus
>>92697146but Taus weapons are not more advanced than Imperial understanding.They are just using Imperial weapons. Basically they handed out plasma guns to everyone.
>>92698004>40K: The Tau use Base 8 mathsCrisis Suits are XV8 and Broadsides are XV88, not XV10 and XV1010. Then there are XV95 Ghostkeels.
>>92689305The tanks in the star was prequels were cool so I'm all for it.
>>92713948You get used to it after a while. >>92715510>they're just using the arcane and ancient unknown dangerous plasma weapon as their main line rifle that is not dangerous, ancient or unknown to them>rail weapons >Drones, antigrave, stealth, flying PA, etcetcetec You don't know what advanced means and didn't bother addressing any of the other points.
>>92698004i don't see it
>>92716178You "people" don't get 40k lore. The most advanced stuff Tau use is just Votann tech. Not even the good Votann tech. It's DAoT tech. The Imperium also uses DAoT, far more advanced than anything the Tau possess. The Ad mech has a monopoly on knowledge, there is someone in that organisation who knows how plasma tech works but its on a need to know basis with layers of clearance.I mean the imperium uses plasma cannons that can level mountains far greater than anything the Tau have.Anyway its kinda moot now that Primaris have plasma gun squads and hover tanks.
>>92723089>You "people" don't get 40k lore.>>>>immediately brings up votann
>>92701480Inb4 Star Wars
>>92723699ironic from someone defending Tau
>>92701790Valid. And I get it, as a writer myself you do end up being influenced by the things you like and sometimes things get in either unintentionally or as a deliberate homage.I just can't stand the people who act like everything is ripping off 40K. Especially because 40K's lore is kinda shit.
>>92723853why? most idiots can't even understand how old 40k is and how influential it is
>>92692792Same. Long range globohomo bullshit empire ruined tabletop if you allowed it to exist. We banned Tau in our games. Orcs were the way to play.
>>92723826Nice projection, that post didn't say a single thing about the tau
>>92723893i accept your concession brainlet.
Thorpe said everyone's canon is valid.Therefore i choose my headcanon that Tau do not exist.
>>92698460>GOOLD?It may not be, but I must say it's...good as GOOLDhttps://youtu.be/fSdXUT_S72c
>>92712471>literally noseless>inspired by IsraelNaw m8
>>92714569>Development of Starship Troopers began in 1991 as a separate project called Bug Hunt at Outpost 7, written by Neumeier.Verhoeven never read the book, some movie called "Bug Hunt at Outpost 7" was renamed to "Starship Troopers" after the rights were acquired. They reshot some scenes and released it as is.
>>92692961Counterpoint; your army, so fuck him. Orks don’t need to be allies with anyone ne to do anything. Plenty of people have done looted Nids before, so you do you.
>>92692961Those guys were fags. Only the most autistic of all autists would ever turn you away for using nid models in place of squigs. The only time it would ever be a problem is if you tried to join a real tournament.https://minicompare.info/?neurogaunt-b=&warboss-attack-squigg=&hormagaunt-a=&nob-smasha-squig-b=&biovore=&beastboss-squigosaur-c=&carnifex-a=&kill-rig=&maleceptor=
>>92725262not sure why it deleted the little bomb boy from the start of the lineup but here he is
Kek what is this thread dude
>>92689305It’s ok when they do it. God forbid your setting copies such original concepts as “dudes in armor” and “big robot” from ol GW.
>>92730672bog-standard Tau thread these daysit's this, or pics of blue girls
>>92692764I think this bit works better spoken than read.
>>92732645that makes me miss big robots—they go so well with action girlsi guess i could give the Tau action girls and big robots in my headcanon>>92732648i never really got the fetish for blue girls, unless blue hair counts?
>>92689305>>92689305a couple droidekas would clean out most 40k battlefields rather nicely
>>92693946>Move hte fuck on with your life fagtardUm...anon...it sounds like he did. He literally said he moved on to other games.
>>92734214Maybe a Mark II or a Scorpenek but a bog standard Droideka for all intents and purposes is a shielded machine gun turret, there’s a lot of basic infantry in 40K that should be able to deal with a Droideka with varying amounts of difficulty.
>>92697146I'll one up you: The Necrons are rip-offs of the Pharon from Vor the Maelstrom.Seriously.* Both have captured energy god/demons they use in their armies.* Both reanimate their forces on the battlefield.* Both have ancient incomprehensible tech.* Both put the souls of their fallen back into new bodies, slowly going insane each time. The main difference between the two is that the Necrons are very much a skelebot army, whereas the Pharon were very much a "we take your troops and make them into weaker zombified versions for our use. And we can make -lots- of them." To the point you could buy the conversion parts to turn any model into a Pharon unit.(And as an aside: the Symbiots in Fading Sun were straight up "homages" to Garou from Werewolf the Apocalypse. Same writers, same eco-warrior attitude, replace Gaia with Life-Seed or whatever it was that planets had. Super lazy stuff there, sadly.)
>>92697146Nobody's heard of the Vau. The star wars prequels otoh were a big thing in 1999-2001 and it makes sense that GW would take visual inspiration from them. Not saying it was the only influence but it would have been far more recognizable at the time.
>>92702125>counterspinwardit's calleld widdershins
>>92737148>it's calleld widdershinsI've heard the word before, but I had to look up the definition. Old High German sounds like a good name for a metal band, and a weird text prompt too.
