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>Previously in the Mortal Realms:

>>92719536

Always remember, edition

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools:
warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
What units in your army do you think will get squatted?
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>TQ:
Giant rats, rat swarms, Plague Censor Bearers, Gutter Runners, possibly the weapon teams.
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>TQ
Everything in cities that isn't new freeguild is gone for sure and you're just delusional if you don't think so
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I have two battleforce for different armies on their way to add to my big ol pile of plastic
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>tq
I bet festus the leechlord, 50/50 on epidemius - I'd rather he get squatted and we get something new/interesting in his place, but he seems to be one of those perennial characters they keep around for decades and do next to nothing with
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>>92731435
I really like the idea of chariots but I've yet to work with one that didn't piss me off during the whole process
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>TQ
please GW squat warlocks stop putting them in boxes no one likes them no one wants them they look like ass they don't fit the army it's a freebie no one will complain if you squat them
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>>92731570
should've just been a cauldron + witch aelves + snakes
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>>92731570
Can you still build them as Dark Riders?
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>>92731537
>your
Your army anon that is, you do have painted models, don't you?
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>>92731608
Yes
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>>92731570
Here's the best I can do
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>>92731608
Yes and dark riders are still in cities but no one uses them. I love the riders and would gladly spam them but the horses look so stupid
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Anyone got the Soulblight and Flesheater battletomes?
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>>92731623
>Krethusa's abilities do not work if you don't have a cauldron
>Don't bundle her with a cauldron
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Give me a good reason why Beastmen were squatted. It literally makes no sense
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>>92731673
Pestigors and Khorngors soon.
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>>92731435
>TQ
My entire dark elf army (black dragons, sorceresses and chaff infantry)
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>>92731673
not really defensible, total horseshit
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>>92731673
Interoffice politics

>>92731721
Post pics anon
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>>92731673
They don’t fit the Sigmar aesthetic
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>>92731673
Because GW hated them.
Could've given them an range refresh to avoid the ToW office politics and give them a new lease on life but they just didn't care to.
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>>92731652
>Cauldrons have been sold out for months
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>>92731673
This>>92731739

According to a couple different former gw staff it's basically a power grab by specialist games to line their revenue sheets because of GWs shitty internal structure
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>>92731673
They didn't want to invest the time/money into updating them for AoS so it was easier to just leave their old crap in old world and not have to worry about them at all for AoS
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>>92731673
They weren't important narratively and weren't popular enough to get a refresh. Skaven were in a very similar position for years but they actually sold so they got their time to shine
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>>92731673
literally the worst and least interesting chaos faction
They can still be around and i expect an STD unit of beastment at some point but having an army of them in AoS felt like one of the hardest fantasy leftovers
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I'm still hoping for an updated crypt ghoul box at some point. We've seen some in various underworlds boxes but it'd be nice to get a big box of them
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>>92731956
>having an army of them in AoS felt like one of the hardest fantasy leftovers
You mean besides bone splitterz. And let's be real, no one is going to miss bone splitterz even as much as BoC
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>>92731673
Beastmen are a joke, even in universe.
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>>92731999
Bonesplitterz were fairly popular before 3rd kind of ruined them
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>>92731995
especially with how popular fec are rn, I'd like to see them get a new 20 man box in the style of their warcry ones. the only thing I want different is the scars on them are waaaaay more subdued than the old kit, I like how fucking mangled these dudes look
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Price increase, ya ready?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/07/2024-pricing-update/
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>>92732311
I've got a plan, I'm just going to finish up what i've got and then kill myself.
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>>92732360
Take some GW CEOs out with you first, in Minecraft
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>>92732311
I'm gonna fall for their trap and get some dark elves
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>>92731999
>>92732285
honestly splitterz had more AoS lore than beastmen as a faction, thats not saying that bonesplitterz were more played by the end of 3rd though
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>>92731570
God please.

>>92731623
I got the box but put the dark rider helmets on them
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>>92731435
Please Mr James squat all the Dark elf models so I can play them in TOW because of your dumb ass 1 model 1 system rule
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Since the fantasy thread is fucking dead, I figure I'd ask here. Where is the spell list for 3e WFRP
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>>92731830
Specialist games people should be executed in the streets.

Fuck all that side game shit. Only lotr is worth anything
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>>92732590
specialists games has this unique brand of autism that stains everything they work on
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>>92731570
how about releasing a female upgrade sprue instead
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>>92732601
Unfortunately for whatever reason, they have a lot of pull within the company, enough to get all horus heresy kits removed from 40k and a sizable number of aos kits removed from aos and clawed back to the old world, because you can't just sell it for both because gw spreadsheets wouldn't show old world sales that way.

Literally the dumbest, most petty internal bullshit you've ever seen. "Oh we're still going to offer these products, but they're now under a different label and 90% of the players can join linger use them so our boutique side games division can show a profit internally"
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>>92732755
*no longer use them*

Excuse the autocorrect
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>>92732755
Those rats even got dedicated 40k models moved to HH despite it being a complete lore rape (for example, the Decimator daemon engine was invented long after the Heresy, but now it's only playable in HH).
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>>92732311
Btw I've seen the retailer charts floating around, and their "it's just 2%" is horseshit, as usual. Average price increase is around 3-6% with some models going up as much as 10% or higher. Anything for TOW or HH is on the upper end of the price increases, also.
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>>92732755
Here’s hoping all that side game shit crashes and burns, and these assholes get put down
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>>92732755
I'll never understand the autism of not allowing double dipping. They'd get more sales if they weren't so autistic.
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does anyone by any chance has the kharadron overlords battletome(old or new) in pdf and wouldnt mind sharing?
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>>92732886
>each GW system is set up as a subdivision that needs to prove its value relative to each other system
>if a model can be used in multiple systems none of them can prove that it was their system that pushed those purchases
>rate of continued investment or cancellation is on the line depending on performance
Encouraging your subdivisions to fuck each other over and passing the cost on to the consumer is silly but it does make it easier to report to your investors.
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>>92732997
A very Skaven oriented way to manage a business.
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>>92733069
>turns out mankind was the skaven the whole time
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if you ever find yourself getting bored of painting just bust out moot green. i swear to god that paint is pure joy in a bottle
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>>92731435
prove me wrong
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>>92732755
I don’t understand why it is that Warcry specifically gets a kind of sort of pass for being tied to AoS. Like I get they just squatted a fuckload of StD units and even though it sucks I can at least see the excuse of “cutting down on bloat”. But all the newer warbands are unique for each army and some like Flamekeepers and Gorgers got their own subfactions in Dawnbringers. So it seems like they’re encouraging crossover there.
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>>92733139
for me it's Warplock Bronze
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>>92733160
Because they're not a 'true specialist game.

Think of it like this, AoS is a team, within that team are guys who work on Underworlds and guys who work on Warcry. In contrast 40k is a team, within 40k guys work on Killteam.

Meanwhile Necromunda, Horus Heresy, and The Old World all have seperate teams.
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Just reading some of the comments around GW's business structure and profit model over the last couple of days and I'm kind of in disbelief. I guess I just assumed that, because this is a listed company beholden to shareholders, actual grown-ups would be in charge. I still don't entirely get it nor how they are a going concern rather than a laughingstock of the business world.
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>>92733729
No competitors or alternatives. Everyone else is uninterested, equally greedy (if not more), and offers vastly inferior quality, both design and material wise. Third parties all leech from GW's designs with enough tweaks to make them legally distinct to the point of being unsightly. There is no real threat to GW, everyone else isn't just garbage, they are inferior garbage.
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>>92733729
they have very close to a complete market monopoly on wargames. if i had to guess they own 90-95% of the total market share.

this is what happens in a monopoly market, the company can do whatever it wants with its price, have the most fucked up or nonsensical business practices, pay whatever wages it wants and treat its employees like shit, all because it has basically zero competitors in the market, and being a "luxury good" its also exempt from most regulations that control more common goods like food and fuel, so they're allowed to get away with cartel style shit like their arbitrary international price inflations that have nothing to do with actual exchange rates, or arbitrary price discount capping that varies region by region based solely on the whims of their discretion
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>>92733143
>model gets a refresh
>uh oh squatted
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>>92733763
How do you see that this monopoly has been sustained over decades despite endlessly buffoonish corporate decision-making? IP love? Product quality? One overwhelmingly more than the other?
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>>92733112
a real rat race we're in, huh?
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>>92733858
NTA but it is not by GW's own merit, other possible competitors are simply put, a cavalcade of itinerant buffoons that every time they take a step forward, it is off the stool. Point in case, Privateer, or Mantic.
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>>92733894
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>>92733898
that is part of it but especially the last 10 years GW has been waging a war on FLGS shelf space for 3rd party games. GMG has done a series of interviews with his friend who owns a fairly large game store and he talks about how GWs continued expansion of their specialist games are literally pushing their competitors off the shelves, denying them shelf space and hogging all the prime real estate for in store sales.
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>>92733858
Privateer press had an incredible game in warmachine mk2 that was rapidly growing and was supported in such a way that left room for more rapid development, right as GW was at a lowpoint. When mk3 came around, they made many many many foolish mistakes, just as GW made huge changes for the better.
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>>92733930
Which wouldn't have been remotely possible if everyone else weren't a bunch of incompetent dimwits.
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>>92733945
GW dictates how much space you have to allocate to its products as part of its vendor contract. GW stock is literally bullying other products off the shelves
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>>92733858
Now, but I did some research on the matter for my economics final. The important thing is that miniature wargames are community based, it's why "we're a models company, not a gaming company" failed. You play the games that people also play. So in order to break out you need people to play the game and a reason to buy it. Now back in the 80's you had a zeitgeist which produced 40k, but also Mutant Chronicles. It's why factions like the Dark Legion and Brotherhood, like the Mystic, share the same aesthetic features. Now Mutant Chronicles didn't have as hard an aesthetic nor was it a true wargame until later, so it didn't rise. Now games like Maulifax/Infinity are also wargames, but they're skirmish wargames which is a different more loose market. You don't field 60 soldiers in either game, thus they're not in competition with GW.

So you then end up with 5th edition 40k which was so fucking awful, it removed enough GW market share for Privateer Press to exist. Their game, like 40k/Mutant Chronicle, had a very distinct aesthetic. It was also cheap and fun to play, which means people bought it, which means more people played. You see how the cycle goes, until Privateer Press kneecapped themselves. It's a hard and stable market to break into, requiring both passion and luck.

Tldr: it's a niche market and competitors all killed themselves.
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>>92733970
As I said, that wouldn't be possible if the alternatives weren't varying degrees of excrement. The blame is on the players, not the cards, how the deck is shuffled, nor the game.
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>>92731673
GW reports profit margins compared to warehousing costs, they'd make more money selling something else in it's place
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>>92731673
Remember how they had to stuff Beastgrave in lootboxes to get rid of it? Beastmen sell that poorly. They are not worth the warehouse space.
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>>92731556
How do chariots work and how SHOULD they work.
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>>92731739
>>92731830
>>92732590
>>92732755
You're fucking retarded if you think that they squatted Beastmen because they're a core army in TOW, they're a core army in TOW because they were squatted in AoS.
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>>92731570
>tfw have 20 unbuilt warlocks still on the sprues
I just want to play snakes, with the occassional witch aelf and harpy. It's ridiculous at this point the value boxes almost don't have any additional value if the value is supposed to be in the warlocks. Either buff them to the extreme so I can sell them to WAAC crowd or move them to old world.
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>>92733143
epidemius went out of production too

>>92731570
granted
but gw will then make a plastic kit dedicated solely on warlocks on foot and make them op as fuck
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>>92731555
Festus works as a decent cheap wizard that isn't the genero-Sorceror, though i'll admit he is too similar to really feel unique in his own right.
For me I auto-include a wizard in my lists just for the Unbinding, Bloab Rotspawned is great, though he's a lot of points if playing smaller games (I enjoy Path to Glory etc).
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>make crypt ghouls the only unconditional battleline
>Also give them a decent statline
>still the oldest models for FEC
it hurts and the only thing that softens that is the fact that the new (conditional) battlelines are good
Honestly the biggest issue with FEC right now is that they still have a CORE of old ass whfb models that dont fit with the current theming well
Also the fact that FEC are one of the only factions that still have heroes that dont technically have a model (the 3 unit courtiers) and those three are also kinda hard to do balancing with
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Darkoath are pretty fun to play, I hope their index remains similar.
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>>92734841
crypt ghouls are barely any different from crypt guard stylistically and the main difference, the face, can be offset by the fact every crypt guard box comes with 10 spares you can use for them
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>>92731956
I think the "Children of Chaos" bit was their biggest downfall. Maybe they would have been a better Destruction fit, the dark side to Sylvaneth's nature theme. Red in tooth and claw. Destroy it all, return to beast. Helped Destruction not be the "uh, orcs need to go SOMEWHERE I guess..." GA. But even then I can see how thematically they're still stepping on a few toes and not really carving out a strong identity outside of (essentially, and I apologise to beast bros) 'tougher, furrier marauders with a few more monsters'.
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>>92734841
>dont fit with the current theming
Dozen new kits have the same basic ghouls, just with finer details
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I have never played the game but would like to have army that would allow me to play following fantasies (not at the same time)

>Sneaking in the shadows around unsuspecting victims, then jumping on them with shooos, nothing personal kid effect. Edginess welcomed.
>Strong unstoppable force that gets beaten and maymed, but still endures and keeps going despite the struggles. And when finally it looks like the character is down, they have to resort to the last option, leaving them no choice but to use... this.
>Happy go lucky characters that never give up and manage to achieve their goal and conquer any adversity due to the power of love and friendship. Bonus if they are edgy and dark, yet cheerful.

What would be my options?
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>>92734884
not a wargame

you just want to watch anime or some cutscenes simulator
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>>92734884

Ironjawz can kind of fit the middle option, your Megaboss on foot can fight when he's killed and activate "destoyer" , his once per game huge damage weapon, to take whatever it is that killed him to hell with him.
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>>92734884
unironically >>92734900 is right, i have zero clue how to do any of these in AoS. the only happy-go-lucky ones are Destruction or Chaos so start there? STD might suit you.
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>>92734884

Darkoath are hardly portrayed as cheerful, but they do everything for family, and laugh in the face of adversity.
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>>92734884
Sylvaneth/DoK for option 1
Any destruction for 3
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>>92734956
>and laugh in the face of diversity.
pretty bigoted of them
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>>92734841
>CORE of old ass whfb models that dont fit with the current theming well
Thats because you are hobbylet with no fucking imagination. They are great, fuck off.
>Also the fact that FEC are one of the only factions that still have heroes that dont technically have a model (the 3 unit courtiers) and those three are also kinda hard to do balancing with.
They technically have models, buy hortor kit and read fucking instructions.
Once again, fuck off.
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>>92735010

Retarded AND racist, a deadly but common set of traits you've got there anon.
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>>92735022
bro i used to have the entire FEC line, that shit was depressing and while there were some people doing some cool conversions of the models, they generally just added bretonian bits (pretty lame and missing the point of FEC) and it doesnt fix the fact that the horror kit sucks ass and has since it was released, being ugly and a pain in the ass to build while also having some of the worst case of "same-model syndrome" that most modern gw releases get claimed of having
Having imagination doesnt mean shit when conversion is not feasible on an army wide level to get to the same level of quality
Seems like youre the hobbylet here fag
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>>92735076
>pretty lame and missing the point of FEC
opinion disregarded
walk away now, pleb
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>>92734884
For the first option, try IDK.
They're edgy sea elves with faction wide daddy issues, that must rip souls from anything they can get their hands upon to stay alive.
Current rules don't allow for varied playstyle, but the one that works is practically unbeatable. The only real counters are magic heavy armies because idk wizard game is weak
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>>92735076
Holy fuck, how can someone be so fucking wrong and homosex in one post, its some kind of flex?

Horrors ugliness is matter of taste, you have non. They are easy to build and convert to myriad of forms. Same look syndrome is codeword for 'I have no hobby skills and I must project', you can swap heads, arms, weapons, add armour, scraps, bones and banners, but instead you complain like a little bitch that GW dont make monopose shit with all the bits already on. Older FEC are great for conversions.
I made these 6 flayers, each of them is unique and have diffrent pose, all I had to do was tiny bit of muscle modelling to chane the arms position a bit.
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>>92735191
still ugly, and just moving goalposts
Nothing said has proved my point wrong, "JuSt CoNvErT" is a jackass answer that doesnt mean shit
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>>92735191
>6 unique poses
and they all look like crap
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>>92735227
Just proven you how wrong you are. The only goalposts mover here is (you).
>>92735276
Post better ones with timestamp mr. no models
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>>92735315
>typical "nuh uh!" response
good to know these are the kinds of people defending these geriatric models
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>>92735328
I accept your surrender.
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>>92735315
i don't have those models, because they look bad lol. doesn't take a chef to tell you that the chicken is dry.
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>>92735340
You have to understand that the primary source of hatred towards fec comes from vampire cunt fanggots salty at the ghouls' independence and success, even though they never cared about ghouls when they had them under their roster.
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>>92735427
do you think stormcast masks would look better if they didn't have a nose? just eyes and mouth?
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>>92735406
shame, they have obr to hate
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>>92735473
For me personally, I just dont like all the spikes and unnecessary ornaments.
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>>92735473
Definitely not, you have to remove the mouth as well or they look like tau.
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>>92735191
Anon you absolutely cannot tell people to work on their models are you insane? You might as well dig for gold in your bathroom
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Slowly working my way through the Darkoath box i got on monday.
I really like the models barbarian style, and they are certainly an improvement over the old kits, but some of those poses are so limited it hurts to even have two of them with different weapon options next to each other.

Also, specific heads that work only with specific bodies due to how the hair, and neck is shaped is retarded.
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>>92735427
cute stormcast girls sitting on my face
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>>92735617
F.A.R.T.I.N.G.
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>>92735580
Shame to hear, I've not started mine yet (box only arrived late yesterday and I had a busy evening) but the Ravagers set at least had a few head options there. Anyone know of any similar 'classic/pulp' Barbarian sets to mix in? Either they're unfashionable these days or my google-fu has weakened.
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>>92735617
>Stormcast and not DoK
Absolutely disgusting
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>>92735632
dok asses are too boney and half of them were men before changing sex
and even then half of the others were men before being reincarnated as women

dok women are simply gay roughly 75% of the time
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>>92735628
Dont get me wrong, there are plenty of heads, and some can be mixed as well.
See pic related for example. The two with the short anime style haircuts in the center back will go onto any body, on some you might need to scrape the neck a bit with your knife.
However, the (in my opinion) cooler heads like on those two bodies in the front, with the longer hair will not go easily onto the other body poses, simply due to the way the hair and the arms are blocking each other.

And while there are 30 heads for 10 bodies, there are not enough heads with long hair to my taste, so you end up having to use those half shaved heads too.
Also, not enough bearded male heads too, which is a shame because some of them look really awesome.

Other barbarian sets: There are the Frostgrave Barbarians, they match the scale, and you can buy either a male or female box of them, but they wear a lot heavier fur and leather cloth, so while you probably could mix and match some parts and weapons, the bodies might stand out a bit because the Darkoath show a lot more skin (compared to basically zero).
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>>92735580

Hail barbarianbro

I got two boxes myself and am in the middle of a 40 model marauder batch paint.
Hoping to get 1000pts painted for saturday next week for a tournament.
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>>92735670
40 would be too much for me to do at once, those 20 are already stretching it, but good luck with your horde.
Hopefully i can complete the base colors (only steel and a few tiny things like stones on necklaces are missing) and a few washes today, and then take them to a game during the weekend before investing more time into improving individual things.
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>>92735632
>DoK
They only ever bathe in blood. Lumineth have the superior ladies.
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>DoK are like cats that you mutilated corpses for your affection
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>>92735771
I dont remember this scene.
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>>92735771
>that bring you mutilated corpses*
Oops.
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>>92735786
It's when the envoy meets the queen in the arena. He's gifted the severed heads of some barbarians that've been coated in silver. It's not really dwelt on since the scene shifts to the Blacktalons.
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>>92735666
what tf is this shit
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>>92735668
Fair, thanks for the heads up friend. Agree on the Frostgrave, I've looked at them but as you said, they're fine for your traditional 'viking'/frozen north type, less so for mixing in with this lot... And it's those looks that have hit me here, the Darkoath dude in Silver Tower had me pining for something I'd forgotten I wanted.
Funnily enough, you know what came to mind flipping through the little booklet? Zulu. All that talk about youngsters proving themselves and moving up in status through the tribe; I know that's ANY classical barb tribe but now I can't get the idea of a fantasy impi out of my mind.
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>>92735771
that's cute, it's like elves were programmed to present terminator heads as trophies of war or something
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>>92735883
frostgrave has a nice zulu-esque savages kit tbf
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>>92735670
Good luck and have fun.
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just found out this guy going absolutely balls deep with snippets and quotes about anything concerning Warhammer, including age of sigmar and the mortal realms
https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dante_on_Discord/Warhammer_Cosmology_blog#Is_Blood_Bowl_connected_to_the_Warhammer_Mythos
like stuff about ghur having a digestive system
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>>92736016
>fandom wiki
no thanks
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Any images of combined Warcry Terrain? The new gnarlwood-ones I mean. Cannot find any where multiple sets are combined.
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>>92736046
No one's buying fomo Gnarlwood terrain lmao
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>Die to Bonereapers
>Not only are you dead, but your soul is going to get ripped apart into many tiny pieces
>This is what Nagash considers to be 'perfect'
Why does the God of Death have to be a colossal asshole?
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>>92736060
he's mad
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>>92736060
He's the god of death because he's a colossal asshole.
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>>92735668
>>92735670
Nice.
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>These eldritch horrors beyond comprehension are overhyped, I can comprehend them just fine.
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>>92736155
40k's retarded power scaling makes its baseline absurdly weak when compared to anything related. I'm sure 1 Grot could take on a whole Imperial planet and win
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>>92732755
i kind of wonder if they dont let you use HH vehicles because it threatens the piece of shit Primaris grav tank sales.
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>>92736027
I've posted it exclusively because he actually brings up quotes and screenshots
as far as I can see, anything else he tries to extrapolate himself is 50% schizophrenia and 50% autism
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>>92735580
Ha, I knew they were shit.
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>>92735580
I got the jakhals kit and I while I think they're a very cool and forgotten unsung Kit of the tiny worl eaters range, they're also horribly monopose if you're not the standard bearer, leader, or brute. The only options are the chainweapon variant


GW has been releasing more monopose stuff supposedly to remove moldlines, how are the moldlines on these barbarians?
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>>92735883
>Zulu
So thats why James added so many black/african faces to the set.

But also matches with how they mention the guns of the Sigmarites in the booklet.
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Finished these 10 boingrots bounders in a batch after like 10 days of painting. Such a slog but that marks the end of the vanguard AND dawnbringers box i bought last September. Feels good to be done with the bulk of the army. All I got left is a few characters then I'll wait for the new ed index
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>>92735666
Are the troons in the room with us anon?
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>>92735666
it's not gay if it's an elf, even when the balls touch, even if her peepee is bigger than yours
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>>92733729
I can see some Russian with money starting to blatanly copy the models and undercutting GW. In plastic not resin.
The market, even if we just take the Eastern Europe, is there and GW can't touch them legally now with the sanctions and all.
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>>92736307
>how are the moldlines on these barbarians?
very good, in there are rarely any.
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>>92736457
I love the new sculpts for this. Such a drastic change from 5-7 years ago.
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GW brand larp swords lmfao
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/08/battle-for-the-world-of-legend-with-this-new-range-of-larp-safe-empire-weapons/
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>>92736481
Not GW brand you doomfag.
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>>92736481
That picture still kinda makes me sad.
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>>92735883
Have you looked at the "HATE" boardgame?
Its about barbarian tribes fighting each other, and while the miniatures are monopose. they are very high quality (for boardgame pieces) and some of those tribes match the Darkoath in style quite nicely. Pic related for an example, but the game comes with a fucking lot of different poses.

No idea how available it is these days, but the chinese will certainly start to sell those miniatures on Aliexpress, like they do with most other boardgame minis
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>>92736496
Is there a story behind it? I thought it was just a funny coincidence
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>>92736481
>should we make cool and accessible props like 40k guns? or iconic melee weapons like ghal maraz and demon blades?
>no, just add a skull to a normal sword's hilt and bump the price by a hundred

I don't understand them
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>>92736518
During olympics, her horse didnt perform as she wanted, so she started crying, started to beat the horse with the stick, and cried even more.

Instead of just accepting defeat and getting off the field.
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>>92736540
Damn that’s fucked. Horse girls, not even once
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>>92736518
Been a while so some of the details are fuzzy.
It's one of those olympic pentathalons were competitors have to do several different activities in order to score points, one of which was equestrian. Because it was an officially held event, all horses were provided to the riders rather than each one bringing their own horse. Who got which horse was decided by random draw.
That rider was in the lead going into the equestrian event, however the horse she drew was completely and utterly unruly, and was essentially unfit to compete in the first place. It was known beforehand that the horse was that way, but the hosts still included it anyway for whatever reason and she got the bad draw.
Naturally when the event began the horse absolutely did not listen to her and simply ran around in circles instead of doing any of the required obstacles. She broke down crying when it became obvious the horse wasn't going to do jack shit, and she and her coach did everything they could to goad it but it wouldn't budge.
She dropped from 1st to 31st and was completely removed from the running since she wasn't able to score anything for that portion, and her coach was disqualified and banned from the Olympics for getting angry at the horse and hitting it on the back.
Essentially the girl lost what was likely her only shot at a major Olympic triumph becuase she got assigned the retarded horse who didn't listen to anyone.
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>want to make a fun Warspawned Kroxigor list with 2x6
>remember i sold my skinks earlier this year because i wasnt using them
>itching to buy new ones but they might get a refresh

this dilemma is killing me
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>>92736501
These look good i definitely keep my eye out for them if i ever get around to doing a darkoath army

Thanks
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>>92736060
That's just the way he is. Even as a mortal man he was a massive prick, death just made it worse.
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>>92736501
I'd never even heard of it, dude. Thanks for putting it on the radar.
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>>92736540
>>92736567
iirc it wasn't her horse or the horse was transported in shitty conditions which made it stressed, hence why it didn't perform well. So they were both victims here
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>>92736060
He's right in that those actions will be beneficial to the society as a whole because a superior member would be created in your place
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>>92736586
they probably won't cause they honestly don't need one
it's like refreshing stabbas. they're just weak small guys that you paint 20-30 of and move in a blob. you don't need much detail because nobody will notice and nobody will want to take the time to paint each bell and whistle. the old GW paint job makes them look older than they truly are.

I would just 3d print print them. find a little dinosaur/lizard warrior STL and find somebody who can print them for you


this one took me like 2 minutes
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/dark-fantasy-lizard-warrior
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>>92736754
Shut the fuck up Katakros.
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>>92736586
It's a genuine tossup between them getting an update now or in the next edition
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>>92736768
I would have said the same about clanrats but here we are
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>>92736813
With yesterday's rumor engine I'd say the seraphon wave 2 refresh is coming sooner rather than later
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anybody have good ideas for bloodknight proxies? Im not shilling out $70 for the current kit.
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>>92736768
Stabbas look so outdated next to anything else GSG
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>>92736848
chaos knights and replace the heads with black knights' shit
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>>92736848
dragon princes when they release for ToW
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This is a serious question, why is every single AoS twitter account a trans woman? I don't just mean a generic warhammer account that also posts AoS minis, but whenever there's an account that has an actual AoS themed name and/or pfp on twitter it's a trans woman. It's not like this for other games; if someone has a 40k pfp they're probably a right wing nutter, if it's a WHF pfp they're probably a fat Dad, etc..
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>40k
>constant stream of news and daily articles about new edition

>aos
>you'll get 3 articles a week... maybe
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My current WIP White lizard.
Whatcha doin?
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>>92737074
imagine you had 18 different stormhosts, and no matter which stormhost you pick, people will buy the models and read the articles like they've just found water in the desert and beg for more, in fact they'll be so thirsty for it that they'll fight with each other saying their stormhost isnt getting enough attention compared to the other stormhost, and demand more articles and a separate battletome for each stormhost, and separate model ranges for each stormhost

be glad we didnt go down the same road as 40k
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>>92737070
because normal people are warhammer fans before being warhammer aos fans specifically
so the only people who are warhammer aos fans first and foremost are the lowest kind of bootlickers who probably took on aos under their identity with the pretense of it being the type of warhammer that sticks it to the archetypical 40k cryptonazi or the fantasy gatekeeping grog and other silly strawpeople
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>>92737070
40k has years of people buying into the koolaid without pushback between not being able to read past a middle school level and constant memes. Also there is already a sizable minority group in wargaming
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>>92737124
Not exactly easy to sell the albino look
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>>92736060
Daily reminder
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>>92737145
Not hard either
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>>92737160
that's no albino
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>>92737151
>Squatted death units in 4e: 0%
>Squatted stormie units in 4e: 41%
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>>92736842
>lizardmen get updated
>rats get their first wave of refreshes
>FEC get updated and expanded
>khorne finecasts get squatted
>CoS squats most of it's units for the new human units
Who else needs an update?
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>>92737243
Mawtribes are the only army left with a significant amount of resin
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>>92737243
Soulblight need two
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>>92737230
still winning btw
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>>92737124
haha yes fellow whitey
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According to the barbarous Frenchmen, the Gunnar Brand novel will be published in one month's time, on June 8th. Sample excerpts reveal that the novel is set after the Vermindoom, and that Gunnar tried and failed to stop it at its epicenter in Chakrik's Folly, having faced off against Skreech Verminking right before the skaven's scheme came to fruition.
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>>92737243
these are the models that have to be addressed (either updated, replaced or removed) before tow2.0
>remaining dispossessed
>spider riders, aracnarok spider
>chaos chariot/gorebeast chariot, manticore, chimera, chaos spawn
>dryads
>flagellants, steam tank, griffon

>skinks, saurus guards, stegadon*
>grave guards, black knights/hexwraiths, ghouls*, corpse cart*
>gluttons, leadbelchers, ironguts, gnoblars
>remaining dark elves that aren't DoK, doomfire warlocks*

*maybe not, it depends on whether tow gives up on them or uses an older model if it has one
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>>92737315
you think we're getting to see that in dawnbringer 6? because I honestly doubt it
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>>92737369
No way in hell the Griffon goes
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>>92737386
unfortunately the non-Karl Franz model variant are shown in The Old World Forces of Fantasy
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>>92737386
yeah, it goes, prepare your anus
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>>92737378
Why would that be implausible? Gunnar's warband get their rules and models in conjunction with DB6. Gunnar's tribe lives in the Snow Peaks area of the Great Parch, right next to both the Gate Below (and Embergard) and Chakrik's Folly. It might not happen, but the circumstances don't look unfavorable.
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On average how safe is each realm?
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>>92737433
not
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>>92737436
Why is this poster saying this to random posts in both /aosg/ and /40kg/? is it a bot or a schizo?
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>>92737433
All of them are equally safe. It just depends on the relative closeness to the centre. The edges of all realms are magically dangerous and unpredictable.
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>>92737449
schizo
he used to call everyone "ben"
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>>92737437
>>92737451
azyr is not as hazardous as the others by virtue of not having any filthy chaos shi**er
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>>92737471
>shi**er
shipper?
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>>92737471
Does it still have other horrible stuff?
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How upset will people be if I do my GSG in a white colour scheme?
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>>92737488
Why would you want to do that in the first place?
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>>92737488
I would say "not at all" but something tells me you're the kind of snickering faggot who would immediately obliterate all plausible deniability and good faith
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>>92737488
...took me a minute
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>>92737471
That they know of. Skaven have infiltrated all the realms with warp tunnels.
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>>92737483
It's been utterly cleansed of chaos and closed off, horrible stuff would be wildlife, some khainites, weather, maybe overzealous members of the order of azyr, and possibly roaming spells.
Not sure if there are any orcs or ghosts either.
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>>92737488
Not much, paint the skin with a slightly more blue green and you can play it off as smurfs.
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>>92737500
>>92737504
I genuinely want to improve my ability handling whites and grey. I also think it'd be funny to watch people project their own shit political takes on what they think the intent was.
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>>92737488
Paint eyes on the back of all the hoods and have spooky ghosts too.
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>>92737547
If you're serious avoid a monochromatic white robe, the age of reckoning concept arts had some images with night goblins whose colours were mainly browns, cream and red and the combination was ace
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>>92737488
Gobbos don't use nooses so you're safe
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>>92737547
>. I also think it'd be funny to watch people project their own shit political takes on what they think the intent was.
But... you've already ruined that by admitting your intent.
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>>92737623
noses are a prominent feature, wtf you on?
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>>92737547
> I genuinely want to paint better.
Ok
> the rest of it
No you are just a faggot.
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>>92737641
Just samefag it less.
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>>92737547
then i'd pick another army. dont pick the one army in the game with pointed hoods and robes to say "this is the army i want to use to practice white" and not expect a little side eye at your color choice.

you know what you're doing. if thats the route you want to go down so be it but dont look to the crowd on an anonymous image board to validate your choice
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I fucked up.

Tried going heavy with bronzes on my maggotkin and now its conflicting with the skin colors. Probabbly gonna have turn them into niggaz to salvage this.
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>>92737675
post picture
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>>92737603
I was actually thinking about doing more a cream colour for the base and saving the purer whites and greys for the highlights. I was thinking about doing something like >>92737534 suggested and using blues for the trim and maybe as an undertone for the skin.
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>>92737680
Maybe in the next thread, I feel like working on em more before even taking pics of em.
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I want new Demigryphs
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>>92737779
maggotkin are such that they can have an incredibly wide spectrum of flesh colors, from traditional skin hues to sickly greens or drowned and bruised blues and purples or undead looking greys and leathery tans.

if you dont want your guys to have a dark skin color, there are options
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>>92737794
You're not getting them, GW has now in its interests to separate the aos ip from the ow ip, and tow is certainly not updating demigryphs either

best you're getting is gargolyan knights
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>>92737841
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>>92737794
why not just use pallidors and put your own riders on them?
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what happened to that one buff skink with the giant red mohawk fin? is he still around?
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>>92737876
is that supposed to mean something?
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>>92737433
Most novels seem to indicate that there's something waiting to kill you every quarter mile.
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>>92738168
That’s life.
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>>92737901
I think he went MTO a while ago.
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>>92737433
Azyr is super safe.
Ghyran, Aqshy and Hysh seam decent
Ulgu, Shyish, Chamon and Ghur are mor inhospitable.
Allpoints is cartain death unless you're a local
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>>92738375
Are you sure about Hysh?
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>>92738393
lumineth are in charge there
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>>92738393
Hysh sucks if you happen to live on the land they burn a rune into but otherwise you just have to learn how to share a city with incredibly arrogant knife-ears
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>>92738393
Hysh and Ulgu were both treated very mildly by Chaos because Slaanesh wasn't, to put it lightly, in shape at the time
I put Hysh over Ulgu, becuase a place that's always bright is less dangerous then a place where you can't see shit
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Is a full troggoth army any good? I was going to get some beastclaw raiders but they're sold out everywhere and people say ogres might get a refresh.
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>>92738542
yeah, its decent. kinda slow, but hits like a truck and its impossible to kill. kragnos can help with their speed problems if you feel like fielding him.
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>>92738542
>>92738561

oh and also, if you are fielding a troggoth army, there is nothing stopping you from throwing a couple manglers in there or some wizards like skragrott. everything in GSG plays well with each other, unlike other soup armies like CoS or warclans that try to separate its components as much as possible
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>>92738561
>>92738581
cool thanks
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>>92732755
Beasts are doing better in TOW though.

>>92732886
GW doesn't understand basic marketing tactics like loss leaders. According to the late Bryan ansell in 2015 they literally tried to kill Warhammer 1st edition because they thought it would cut into their sales of DnD supplements. GW has quite literally always been run by retarded fuckheads.
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>>92738542
they're slow but suprisingly durable and extremely killy. hard to say what they'll look like in 4.0 since it'll be a new ruleset but as of right now they like bringing in a couple of squigs/grots/wizards to help support so the real stars of the show (the rockguts) can keep on swinging.
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>>92733139
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>>92733970
That must be why the nearest LGS to me stopped selling warhammer stuff 6 years ago.
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>>92738679
NTA but I can corroborate. Have had the few LGSs I have basically drop gw because starting out with them is miserable. They force you to buy certain kits until you reach some certain metric or milestone, then you get some inventory freedom. Last year my last GW stocking LGS purged their GW inventory at 50% off in protest of not getting allocated a single Leviathan box despite faithfully stocking every weeks preorders. They still had 2 dominion boxes last I checked.
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>>92738646
In a better world GW wouldn't be run by shortsighted retards who only look to suck-off shareholders. They'd force writers to cooperate and coordinate their efforts, and they might even a few people who understand game design.
I mean can dream.
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>>92738740
I mean that was basically the whole dominion scenario. Flgs owners got locked in to a minimum buy on dominion and then fucked over when gw decided to delay in store shipments to sell directly on their website so flgs owners were essentially left holding a bag gw forced on them and then pulled the old bait and switch
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>>92738679
they also make you buy their glue and stuff even if the LGS sells superior tools
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>>92738819
That is just plain wrong. There was no minimum buy and especially not one for 50+ boxes.
Stores just ordered too much because they thought allocations are going to be lower like for the 40k sets.
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>>92738679
The other problem is availability, 2 days ago my LGS posted about geting only 5 CSM battleforce boxes. There is 20+ list of people waiting.
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>>92737841
>best you're getting is gargolyan knights
more best care scenario we get them, they would mog the fuck out of demis.
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>>92737841
It would be better if TOW didn't have demigryphs because they don't fit the empire, especially in 2291 IC or the date TOW is in, the empire in TOW should ideally have upgrade sprues or old cult of ulric models for Ulric and Taal worshipers to simulate th armies of the middenland emperor and the talabecland emperor. The style of demigryphs are very high fantasy and fit more closely to the nu-cities of sigmar aesthetique.
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>>92738914
i will never cease to be amazed at WHFB fans endless desire to remove the F and just turn it into some bland historical.
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>>92739150
Yeah it's almost like WHFB originates in having multiple historical ranges fight each other+dragons, elves and dwarfs and works better on that basis.
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>>92739175
>+dragons

you literally have a guy saying gryphons are too much.

they just want mud and crust european historicals with no fantasy elements. empirefags are the worst at it by far, i dont know why they dont just go play actual historicals, they seem to want nothing to do with fantasy at all. by far the most snobby player base in fantasy, possibly all of warhammer
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>>92739150
>"Why does the setting dreamed up by a bunch of history nerds so influenced by history?"
Geez, Anon. I can't imagine why fantastical takes on real world historical cultures are just a major part of Fantasy.
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>>92739175
Id never be interested in any of the fantasy settings if it was that.
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>eww is that fantasy in my fantasy game?
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>>92739213
Thats lame tho, i dont read fantasy to read some reddit-tier "haha war over a bucket so funny" youtube video
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me mate?

been building some raptor with longstrike crossbows.
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>>92739213
Werent the most popular armies in fantasy the Factions that were completely disconnected from historical backgrounds?

Off the top of my head, the big 3 was something like Dark Elves, Greenskins, and Chaos.

Meanwhile Bretonia and the Tomb Kings were absolutely neglected.
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>>92738914
>especially in 2291 IC or the date TOW is in
why they already had a long tradition of knights, cannons, griffins and stanks
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>>92734874
Maybe that's what they're going for with the Silent Dudes. I'll miss the goat-man aesthetic though.
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>>92731611
A human typed this
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>>92739290
bretonia and TK were neglected, and empire was deeply unpopular because its minis looked like historical ass in pajamas

chaos, O&G, and dark/high elves were all popular, lizardmen were popular, vampire counts were very popular. dwarfs were....its always hard to tell if dwarfs are popular because you get the sense from a general headcount that dwarfs arent that popular, but among the people they are popular with they will buy up every single dwarf model ever made ever, probably the most loyal fanbase of any army.
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>want simple army to work on
>order bunch of StD
>already have like 6 different ideas for what to do with them
>none of them are even here yet
Every time
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>>92739258
Not everyone shares your tastes, and that's okay.

>>92739290
The lowest selling factions were generally the ones that rarely saw any updates in their model lines or rules - Brets, TK, and beastmen are the best examples of this.
Take the TK, as an example. They only really recieved notable updates to their model line towards the end of Fantasy's life. Moreover, their rules were generally pretty terrible. Despite suffering from many of the exact same problems as the VC, TK never saw many of the rules updates VC recieved to address those problems.
Playing TK wasn't exactly fun when your opponent could guarantee your loss by simply nuking your liche priest off the board turn one every game.
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>>92739364
Thats because "people like playing as humans" is a meme
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>>92739400
StD have the good fortune of being one of those armies that looks fantastic in damn near any color scheme.
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>>92739402
>Thing wasnt popular because it wasnt supported
>Im going to ignore why they werent supported

If you made a box of bretonnian knights, and some chaos knights, and one sells and the other one doesnt, guess which one is going to get more support
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>>92739279
6 very efficient dudes being a quarter of the army's points is wild but I honestly love it
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>>92739364
>most loyal fanbase
Most obnoxious fanbase that's for sure
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>>92739317
glhf
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>>92739435
thats goin in the book
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>Darkoath box was supposed to arrive yesterday
>didn’t show up
>current shipping status is up in the air and just listed as “delayed”
fucking hell
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>>92739447
i know the feels. i've had a bunch of dinosaurs held up in customs for a week now
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>>92739400
I did the exact same thing with stormcast. They're still unprimed
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>>92739434
I am extremely excited to bring them to the next game with my mate!
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>>92739462
dont prime with metallic spraypaint, its a trap. metallic spraypaint has a habbit of having this really rough, almost sandpaper like texture to it from the metal flakes. just use regular primer. if you plan to do a metallic scheme vallejo metal color air paints go great over solid black, cover in 1 coat. if you plan to paint them in a painted metal color, i recommend either black or grey primer, avoid white primer, it doesnt finish right, tends to pool and have trouble sticking. also a little bit of weathering goes a long way towards making painted color armor not look like childrens toys
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>>92739437
nta but thanks
do you happen to have blackened earth too?
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>>92739437
many thanks anon. blessings of sigmar upon you
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>>92739210
This entire board is obsessed with historical fiction settings pretending to be fantasy. That’s why nobody talks about how fucking goofy and over the top fantasy was
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>>92738375
Ghyran is super Vietnam
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>>92739645
Comfy.
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>>92739617
>This entire board is obsessed with historical fiction settings pretending to be fantasy.
Just empirefags, and now multiple ex-gw guys have confirmed they sold like shit.

turns out people into fantasy want fantasy concepts like elves, chaos and dwarfs
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>>92739617
I kinda thought that after Total War Warhammer the illusion that Fantasy was this super grounded and gritty setting would start to fade with how wacky that game can be but no.
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>>92739848
If anything it entrenched those retards even deeper.
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>>92739801
A big problem in judgung things like that currently, is that most Fantasy fags are people whos armies didnt make it through the end times, which is Bretonnia Empire TK etc.

You wont hear a scaly or a chaos player complaining
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>>92740064
Nice. Skin recipe? I’ve been looking for a good pale white skin to use for my orks.
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>>92740122
>recipe

Sorry if it will disappoint you Anon, its just "skeleton bone" rattlecan primer (because i am out of black), then a drybrush of vallejo "iraqi sand" followed by vallejo white light drybrush.

And then a reasonable amount of "Dreadful Visage" contrast paint.
When it was released, people did complain that it was only a very subtle purple paint and does not cover properly etc, but i think it looks quite nice over white drybrushed skin and it does its job.
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>>92740174
Thank you.
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>>92739411
Is that a challenge?
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>>92740309
go look at slambo, yeah
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>>92740309
Thanks chirugeon.
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>>92740309
Doctor.... the clinic is closed now....
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>>92740376
>>92740523
That's a light blue not purple
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>>92739290
All kinds of elves were popular, as were lizardmen, vampire counts and and chaos. No kind of normal humans were popular at all, despite empire having very good support.
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>>92740586
Thanks nurse
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>>92739400
I wanted to do my tzeentch StD pink and blue with the more elite being pink and the chaff being blue but I'll attract some interesting characters with an army like that. Probably gonna go with just full pink but even then I'll have to say it's not slaanesh constantly
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>>92740855
lean into birds and fire and that should clear up any misunderstandings
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>>92737547
Tbh I can imagine it working with them being moon worshippers and cave dwellers, sorta like an albino look. White dirty robes on Pestilens skaven and Nurgle look good.
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>>92738869
Potentially
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>>92740871
I'm not buying your tzaangors james
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>>92741043
I am no longer asking
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>>92735670

12 hours later and progress feels sloooow.

A 40 model batch paint was perhaps a bit ambitious, and if I'm to keep to my timetable I need to finish these guys (or at least have them table ready) by the end of tomorrow.
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>>92741183
These poses seem kind of shit is that the only option
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>>92740309

Hey you stole my Votann scheme
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>>92741210

Yeah they are monopose with options for different heads, shields and weapons.
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>>92741225
I just put together the saurus kit and that too was surprisingly devoid of options. It didn't even have extra heads, just 1 with mouth closed and 1 for the captain, and the choice of spears or clubs but otherwise no pose customization, no head swaps, no decorative bits whatsoever.

Shocking considering how flexible the kroxigor kit was
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>>92741286
Kroxigors had the advantage of needing to be two different units, they should've just done that with temple guard/warriors
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What models do have the most options with poses?
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>>92741428
its been a few years since i built them, but from what i remember the deepkin infantry actually had 2 different poses per model in both kits. like different upper arms and pecs that changed the way the whole guy went together.

and of course kharadrons arkanauts have ball joint heads and arms with completely interchangable parts between every body, although the torso poses are a bit static.

ironjawz brutes were quite a flexible kit, as were the gore gruntas although the mounts themselves not so much.

gloomspite gitz kits like boingrot bounders and rockgut troggoths are kinda famous for their amount of options. you would have to build like 3 or 4 boxes before you got repeat models
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>>92741347
im gonna be honest when i was building my kroxigor i was not paying attention to rules at all and i was just throwing on whatever bits looked cool.
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>>92735765
Lumineth don't peg
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>>92741428
Blightkings and stone trogs aren't necessarily posable but their kits having lots of interchangeable bits helps break them up
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>>92737124
Close to finishing the Vindictors from Dominion. My goal is to get dominion, minus Yndrasta but adding a chariot for 1k points, done by 4th ed launch.
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>>92742143
Sick scheme
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>>92741183
Impressive ass plug collection anon
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>>92741183
How are you liking the new AP paints?
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>>92741493
Based
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>>92741183
Impressive. It’s probably going to take me the rest of the year to finish my Darkoath once they actually get to me.
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>>92741183
why are they ghey?
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What are some good painting tips or advice for a beginner outside of thinning paints? I've been holding off on even priming due to anxiety of fucking up and the cost of pots.
I had a few models when I was a kid and managed to sort of re
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>>92742773
>I've been holding off on even priming due to anxiety of fucking up and the cost of pots.
You'll never improve if you don't try, accept that the first attempts are going to be rougher than what's on the box.
Other than that look on YouTube for guides on what you're trying to accomplish.
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>>92742738
first thing i'll tell you is that if you do fuck up, its not the end of the world. you can get a gallon of a product like pic related and safely strip paint off your plastic without damaging it

with that out of the way, we need to talk about paints. not all paints are created equal. citadel, the games workshop brand, are notorious for their consistency problems, poor pot design, and other issues like paints that have too little pigment or too much white causing them to be desaturated. vallejo is a good consistent alternative but the coverage isnt quite as good. proacryl is excellent coverage and consistency if you dont mind a matte finish, duncans two thin coats brand is basically citadel without the problems, AK 3rd gen is favored by a lot of painters, and army painters speed paints and their new line of wargame fanatic paints are supposed to be very good, though army painters original paints are quite bad.

from there, decide on if you want a traditional workflow (base, layer, shade, highlight) or a contrast workflow (zenithal or slapchop prime, apply contrast, then highlight). both are valid. contrast has a learning curve when it comes to accuracy of brushwork because cleanup is harder, while traditional has a learning curve with paint consistency and even coats. and of course you can always use a blend of the two, like in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw9iDiAGNmI

luckily nowadays you are spoiled for choice when it comes to painting tutorials on youtube, so try watching a few for your chosen army and see which method catches your eye the most
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>>92742773
which army are you starting?
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>>92742887
Haven't picked an army yet, but I do have some older skaven models I bought for somewhat cheap from the lgs since they where in a loose bit box. They're effectively throw away but for some reason I just have anxiety when it comes to any sort of art and craft.

Did a few intro games too using stormcast who seemed fun enough and I like the greek death masks and deployment stuff. I am awair they are beginner bait.
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>>92743100
i wouldnt say stormcast are beginner bait, they can be a legitimate beginner army, although i would say a better beginner army is the one you like the aesthetics and playstyle of, because if you like how it looks and feels you are more likely to stick with it, learning curve be damned

since skaven are what you have to practice on, here are some tuts

a contrast method tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IobJTxh9nXk

and a standard method tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp_vdo0AFhI

dont feel like you have to use the exact same colors as a tutorial, its more about technique than specific colors unless there is a particular color you really love and want to replicate.

when choosing an army, i usually recommend people to narrow down their choices first to 3 armies that you like the look of, and then from there pick based on playstyle. it can be a slog if you like the look of an army but find its playstyle on the table to be an absolute pain, unless you are purely a hobbyist with little to no intention of playing.

stormcast playstyle is usually a teleporting down from the sky sudden assault, either with high output melee bruisers, high output ranged snipers, or high output monster riding cavalry on creatures like dragons. they dont tend to have a lot of bodies and are vulnerable to damage from spells and poison, but have good armor against physical attacks, their specialty is usually applying very high damage very suddenly at very precise points. a shock and awe type faction. they can also be one of the easier armies to paint because they take metallics well, and there are a lot of good metallics on the market like pic related. stormcast also have the benefit of being cheap to acquire on the secondary markets like ebay and troll trader
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>>92743100
oh and also you can get cheap brushes from places like walmart, amazon, or michaels in large packs usually for less than $10, which is great because when you're learning you are bound to ruin brushes here and there, and its much less of a pain to ruin a $2 brush than some $15-20 fancy citadel brush
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>>92742334
Would they actually work as butt plugs?
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How do they sleep in Hysh
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>>92743568
there's still a "night" in Hysh, it's just that the "sun" never fully leaves the sky. if you've ever slept through a sunset or sunrise then you could do it too.
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>>92743568
Like they would anywhere above the Arctic Circle. Blackout curtains/shades.
As for what "night" is like in Hysh, go look up videos of an area in the path of totality of a solar eclipse. That's kinda what I imagine it like.
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>>92743616
>>92743616
>>92743616
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>>92743568
Close the blinds when the sun is at its weakest
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>>92742773
Don't be scared.
If you have a golden demon painted army on the table and a badly painted army, you can barely tell at tabletop distance.
If you have a grey army vs a badly painted army, the badly painted army looks infinitely better.
Just keep plugging away, the more you practice the better you will get and badly painted models look far, far better than unpainted models
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>>92741183
You can do it Anon. Those shields with split colors look quite nice
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>>92742143
With different helmets, these guys, in your colors, would look like actual knights instead of fantasy space marines. Well done.
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>>92743216
>>92743203
Thanks s ton for the help guys. I'll look these over and buy some primer. I've heard humidity is dangerous for that so I might have to wait the weather to change a bit here.



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