>>93462070
No need for namecalling anon, he was being polite.

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Y'all are literally asking for this.

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>>93462083
That's just DS being himself

I do not like Leveling Systems. I have a leveling and it makes me unhappy. How do I get rid of my leveling system while keeping the abilities attached to it?

>>93462070
Huh, really? The artstyle was really different though. Those chicks from part I, or II of Bastard! ?

>>93462103
Fuck off, don't take it and any of its abilities at all in the first place.

>>93462103
Just stop acknowledging the leveling system

Please post underpowered shonen jumps?

>>93462114
>>93462115
If you don't have an answer then just don't reply

>>93462103
Just wank that you maxed out your level.

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>>93462109
Part 2. Its when all the angel stuff starts happening.

>>93462103
One of the isekai jumps that Val made had a perk to that lets you make a non-litRPG system into a litRPG system, so the opposite should also be possible. Iirc it was Weakness of Beatrice.

>>93462125
Seriously anon, just stop acknowledging it. A lot of authors just do that when the numbers get too annoying

>>93462119
Inuyasha? Yugioh? One Piece?

>>93462119
Ranma 1/2. Female Ranka jobs to cock.

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Here is 1.0 of my Pokémon Trading Card Game (GB). It can be put on the drives.

1.0 Changelog:
>Both Auto Machine and Mini Computer will now automatically update in other settings so that they can be used with the card game that dominates those settings.
>Minor typo fixes.

I have some IRL stuff today so apologies if I take a while to get back to you.

>>93462109
NTA, but the artist is michairu.

>>93462119
Shonen is just a demographic. It covers multiple genres. So there are plenty of SoL and sports shonen. If you mean battle shonen, it's a bit harded. I think Kengan is technically shonen. Ippo if we have a jump for it.

>>93462137
Is that underpowered? I never finished Ranma but the jump seems like it has some strong stuff.

>>93462133
>>93462173
I find authors who do this incredibly dumb. If you want number to not show up in your story then maybe just don't fucking make the central power system of the story revolve around numbers in the first place.

Good jump to make a knock off TF2 medic companion?

>>93462207
The vast majority of them think gamer powers are cool riiiight up until they realize that the bookkeeping is taking up an ever increasing amount of time

>>93462223
Franken Fran.

>>93462207
>>93462225
You have to realize that a lot of the shit you see on royalroad and the like is by first-time authors who have no idea what they're doing.

>>93462173
A Elder Scrolls Oblivion system where your super attack is just the scroll duping method to drop millions of gold ingots onto your enemy. Kinda makes me sad there aren’t all that many crack fics like that. Also ones where the MC has access to console commands and I can just turn my brain off for a bit while reading it, both are rare. Or at least I’ve not found many, there’s on fallout one that’s kinda recent but otherwise the last one I can remember reading was a 5k word Gmod tool fun based power insert into Mass Effect

>>93462223
Worm

>>93462223
The TF2 jump itself, or Overwatch for the Mercy perk. Girl Genius might work

>>93462207
the central system of power in most worlds is money, but you dont need to know the characters exact bank account balance.
Just informing the reader about their broad status in comparison to others is more than enough, and focusing too much on the small shit just drags things out in a way that doesen't benefit the story.

>>93462247
This is so wrong headed I don't even know where to begin with it

What became of that Harem Collector jump anon was working on? Been a while since it was last mentioned.

>>93462245
The TF2 jump kinda sucks ass.

>>93462207
>>93462247
One of the most successful modern authors is Brandon Sanderson. You might think focusing on shit like the stats of your magic system is dumb, but obviously it makes good financial sense.

>>93462274
having a hard magic system doesn't mean you need to keep track of all numbers relevant to it at all times for your characters.

>>93462247
Focusing on the nuances of the setting is never bad, most authors are simply incapable of doing it which is why they rely on fanfiction-like fallbacks such as litRPG mechanics to carry the backbone of their settings for them

>>93462300
I haven't seen a lot of litRPG mechanics in fanfiction spaces. They might be cliche, but I don't think you can call them "fanfiction-like".

>>93462207
How about not making the power the central focus of the story and more the actions of the MC while the power set does stuff in the background.

>>93462312
NTA, but Valeria is a published author.

>>93462300
>Focusing on the nuances of the setting is never bad
wrong, the most important thing in stories are either the characters or the central conflict, world building is nice, but it should always play a secondary role. Just spending time explaining everything in detail and doubling your word count is an amateur writing mistake.

>>93462311
They're fanfiction-like in the sense that they save the writer the work of having to actually construct a coherent world and narrative or expositing about it to the reader. It just uses societal background knowledge to make the reader fill in the blanks.

>>93462312
Question. who the fuck is Brandon Sanderson and why does one author doing this out of thousands matter compare to all the ones that came before.

>>93462322
Tolkien spent literally 90% of his time worldbuilding. The actual narrative was a very small fragment of his project.

>>93462326
>>93462274
Brandon Sanderson doesn't even keep track of any numbers, none of his magic systems have anything to do with those.

>>93462332
You are the one currently arguing in favour of hard magic system filled with numbers like isekai garbage litRPG's

>>93462326
He's one of the more sucessful modern fantasy authors.
Has both a sizable fandom and a sizable hatedom because of his insistence on hard magic systems. To the point of giving lectures on the topic. A divisive figure if you will.

>>93462347
No, you are.

>>93462326
>who the fuck is Brandon Sanderson
A mormon autist who writes fantasy stories at an incredible pace at a decent quality.
Never heard of anyone finding him particularly great, but in certain circles on the internet people act like hes famous on par with Rowling or GRRM.

>>93462339
I just checked and I've never heard of any of his books while I've heard of Howard and Lovecraft.

>>93462355
>A mormon autist who writes fantasy stories at an incredible pace at a decent quality.
Isn't the dude just averaging a book per year?

>>93462331
worldbuilding outside a book isn't what anyone is talking about, its about what is told within the story.
Wasting time in lord of the rings to elaborate on the magic system or talk about the exact nature of orcs and the way the supply lines work would've killed the pacing.

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I feel like doing a lighting/thunder/electricity based jumper for my next chain but i've got a very specific set of powers I want to mix and match together for his power-set and while I could get them from different jumps I do wonder if I could get them from a singular one, so i'll lay out the power's i'd like him to have and if y'all could suggest some jumps where I could pick up a lighting/thunder/electricity powerset/perks that could encompass them i'd greatly appreciate it.
>Cole's electromagnetism from Infamous 2
>Harriet Bree from RWBY's electricity based enhanced speed (Though it doesn't need to be like slow mo levels of fast like hers)
>The ability to do Mikoto Misaka's railgun
>Killua's instant reaction using his bio-electricity
>Sauske's Kirin
I know I can pick up all of the above just by going to the characters related jump and that is the plan but I just thought I would ask before I got started just incase anyone had any suggestions on where I could trim some fat.

>>93462372
Lovecraft is mainstream for basically being the father of cosmic horror

>>93462380
>Wasting time in lord of the rings to elaborate on the magic system or talk about the exact nature of orcs and the way the supply lines work would've killed the pacing.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing anyone has said in this thread today

>>93462223
Bioshock

>>93462372
>Lovecraft
He's totally mainstream anon

>>93462382
Pretty sure Conduit and Railgun can each do everything else on your list.

>Reckoners
Superpowers. No bookkeeping or number tracking or stats whatsoever.
>Elantris
Runebased programming language magic, and an alternative based around sacrificing people to carve seals into yourself. No bookkeeping or number tracking or stats whatsoever.
>Emperor's Soul
Also runebased magic. Involves sacrifice or rewriting the past. No bookkeeping or number tracking or stats whatsoever
>Mistborn
16 superpowers triggered by consuming metal, a storage based system where you store a quality to use it later, and metal spikes that let you rip qualities and magic out of people to nail it to yourself. No bookkeeping or number tracking or stats whatsoever.
>Warbreaker
Lifebased system where you get a comparatively higher amount of superpowers based on how much magic you accumulate. The only bookkeeping is a single number, how much breaths you have and how much are stored in a given object.
>Surgebinding
Ten elemental sources. Access two by making a contract with a spirit. Magical items here and there. No bookkeeping or number tracking or stats whatsoever.

>>93462369
Last year he wrote 4 books, and hes at 2 at the moment for this year.

Overall he's written over 70 fantasy books, which is pretty insane for a western fantasy author.

>>93462382
I dunno what the fuck the majority of those are, but... MHA has the Bottled Lightning quirk and AtLA has lightningbending on offer.

>>93462403
>storage based system where you store a quality to use it later,
Isn't this perfect for a number heavy system?

>>93462403
>Reckoners
Sidenote but it's interesting how this is basically the plot to Worm. Grimnoir Chronicles is also pretty similar. Wonder why "alien comes to earth to give superpowers for nefarious purposes" is so common in capeshit adjacent media.

>>93462382
could you be more specific about what kind of stuff you want your electric powers to do, rather than just name chracters not everyone is familiar with?

>>93462411
Listen, the only western fantasy authors I know of are Piers Anthony and John Norman. And I only know that second one because I spent entirely too long trying to pirate those mediocre bdsm books for a family member

So basically I kinda just expect western authors to make a book a year

>>93462403
Why the fuck are you stuck on the idea of whether or not numbers are present? That was never what the conversation was about you retard

>>93462316
Choosing to invest stat points and perks or whatever is an action the MC takes dumbass

>>93462403
I like the one where the magic system is pokemon but with chalk drawings

>>93462426
Anon is retarded, please understand

>>93462432
He's baiting

>>93462416
Yes, but given by how Sanderson knows nobody gives a fuck about that, he wisely does not inform you of how much weight Sazed or Wax have in their storage at any time, of how much life Wayne has in his battery, and the whole conflict of the first Era 2 book was a guy who lucked into an exploit that let him get near infinite regen anyway (while the villain of the first Era 1 book got himself all the infinite stat exploits because he was just like that). Characters refill their batteries offscreen because no one actually wants to see them grind it back up and we only know a character is running out if the story tells us, because again, nobody actually cares for meticulous bookkeeping of statistics. Econ majors aren't a significant part of the novel market.

>>93462382
Battle Through The Heavens, you can make a custom Flame Mantra technique for any element of memory serves, or it might be you can become a heavenly element variant of any element rather than the settings base of flames. You should be able to use that to do everything you’ve asked for at vertical levels of progress. Probably better if the jump maker confirmed but none of those seem outside the capabilities of the setting even if you do need to shift the element, which again the jump allows for the stuff you buy

>>93462437
I take it those twelve thousand pop ups informing you how much EXP you just earned for stepping on an ant is also important

>>93462427
That's pretty weird for someone on /tg/. Like you'd think you'd know Lovecraft, Howard, Moorcock, Dunsany, Vance, and CAS.

>>93462422
I mean, the most popular superhero is an alien. The two concepts are very tied together in the collective imagination.

>>93454078
JUMP #0175: Samurai Deeper Kyo

+1000
Location: 2. Kyoto
Age: rolled 1 +16 = 17
Gender: Male
Origin: True Mibu (500)
Perks:
>An Era of Embers (free)
>Aura (free)
>Hidden Forbidden Jumper Style (300)
>True Red Eyes (free)
>Realm of Nothingness (100)
>The Power of Faith (200)
>Mark of a Crimson King (300)
Items:
>Era Appropriate Clothing (free)
>A Simple Sword (free)
Companions:
>Eight Brave Shadows (200)
Drawbacks:
>The Demon King of the Sixth Heaven (+600)
Total: 1600/1600

All Companion:
>The associated origin freebies
>>Eight Souls One Vessel (free)
Drawbacks:
>Slayer of 1000 Men (+100)
>What a Wo-MAN (+100)
>Gimmick (+100)

Ryan +600
Gender: Male
Origin: Ronin
Perks:
>Spectre (100)
>Miracle of Effort (200)
>Shingan (300)

Lorelei +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Bounty Hunter
Perks:
>So, I’m Going to Watch as You Live (100)
>Indara the Third (200)
>Satori (300)

Sophia +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Ronin
Perks:
>Miracle of Effort (200)
>Shingan (300)
Items:
>Mibu Research Materials (100)

Mortimer +600
Gender: Male
Origin: Bounty Hunter
Perks:
>So, I’m Going to Watch as You Live (100)
>Indara the Third (200)
>Satori (300)

Elizabeth +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Bounty Hunter
Perks:
>Steel Speaking (200)
Items:
>‘One’ (400)

Talisa +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Ronin
Perks:
>Spectre (100)
>Miracle of Effort (200)
>Shingan (300)

Heather +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Bounty Hunter
Perks:
>So, I’m Going to Watch as You Live (100)
>Satori (300)
Items:
>Devil’s Eyes (200)

Gaia +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Ronin
Perks:
>Spectre (100)
>Miracle of Effort (200)
>Shingan (300)

Commentary: Back to samurai times it is. I quite liked this manga back in the day, and have a decent chunk of the series on a shelf. So Jumper is very happy to explore this world. Well, that and copy absolutely any and all information the Mibu clan has. It would be too much of a waste to let Kyo destroy it all otherwise.

I just know that all the gamer fanfics I saw spend like 500k words on grinding and making numbers go bigger, while the the actual story has progressed like 1 week and isn't even past episode 2.

>>93462460
Yeah, but what about giving people powers for nefarious purposes? It's like a weird syncretism of Superman with The Devil.

>>93462458
Nah, I don't read a lot of books. Or, well, I used to read an entire whole ass novel every lunch back in highschool, but I never bothered remembering the authors. Or the book names

... I'm still trying to find that one book with the absurdly capable thief that ended up becoming a god and marrying a goddess that had been pretending to be a cat for reasons.

>>93462470
Casual reminder that Brockton Celestial Forge hasn’t even had a full month worth of internal story progression. Or
Maybe slightly more than that if it has passed a single in setting month

>>93462391
>Ehrrrrrrrrm, but what was Aragorn's tax policy, though?

>>93462470
I can't say I've ever seen any gamer fanfics that do that

It's fucking impossible to discuss anything in this general, I swear there are like 3 people who spend all day here just spreading lies about whatever the topic of discussion happens to be

>>93462490
>there are like 3 people
There's only one shitposter.

>>93462476
It's kinda because of the narrative role Superman has; he's not the First Superhero, but he was kinda the trailblazer. Superman shows up and the Age of Superheroes begins, superpowers start to spring up and society is transformed. Worm kinda leans harder on Superman as the guy who is the herald of the new age, while Reckoners leans on a similar aspect but makes the *comet* (Superman's spaceship) the herald of the new world.

>>93462488
the funny thing is, Martin himself never goes down on elaborating polcies like that unless its somewhat relevant in the story, like when Tyrion made a tax on whoring to pay for Joffrey's wedding, which made him unpopular with the smallfolk.

>>93462479
The Redemption of Althalu

I literally just copied what you typed into Google and that was the first wiki. It looks like the type of book that a school library would have. Reminds me of back when I’d read through the CHERUB series in school. That’s be a pretty fun jump now I think about it

>>93462490
Depends on the day and time. I've had plenty of good conversations in the thread that lasted several hours only for there to be sudden interruption via shitposting because Timmy woke up and wanted to do his usual routine.

>>93462490
We've had an alright couple threads recently. This anons >>93462518 right, not constant

>>93462476
It's that people like to deconstruct the base model they have.

>>93462514
... God damn it, it's a David Eddings book too. I was literally looking at his bibliography when reddit made their Belgariad jump

>>93462489
I stopped reading gamer fics several years ago, but just think about it,
>that Harry Potter Gamer fic, where he was constantly just salughterin things in instant dungeons or reading backstories of people using observe
>that young justice SI whos super fat and ends up in the Amazon Island, again just constantly slaughering stuff in instant dungeons and crafting and shit, but which ends before the plot starts
>that naruto OC fic about the bastard child of a samurai who befriends Ino in the aacdemy gains crazy stats and develops technique, I remember it had like 100k words wort of fanmade omake, and the story ended just after the mc passed the genin exam.
I know there were more, but the details escape me.

>>93462537
Ahh, yeah the The Gamer manhwa becoming popular kinda ruined gamer fics for a couple years there

>>93462550
There were gamer fics that came before it?

>>93462552
Litrpg is the term.

>>93462552
Yes? It's not a new genre by any measure.

>>93462537
There’s that Naruto one where there guy gets dropped in with a Fallout Special system and fucking dump stats charisma and is actually socially retarded for basically the whole thing. There was another called The Root of Darkness which I wasn’t too bad but did get right into the basic bitch gamer grind then suddenly did a Harry Potter cross which went about as well as you could expect

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>>93461421
Late to the party but...
Seriously?

>>93462552
I don't remember most of the fanfics I used to read, but Harry Potter and the Natural 20 predates The Gamer by over a year

... One of the Xanth books runs off of game logic too, using a videogame Xanth as a framing device

>>93462561
I don't no why but my mind was associating gamer fics to be something that only started to show up in the 2010's and the manhwa looks that old and bad.

>>93462470
>https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/ghost-in-the-city-cyberpunk-gamer-si.1046809/

>If you consider each of the origin perks to be 3 separate options, there're a total of 136 perks, 71 items, and 45 companions in this jump.
>In a "basic" jump (4 origins, each having a 100/200/400/600 CP spread of items and perks), you can purchase a bit less than a 1/4th of the document without dipping into drawbacks.
>Even after you take the full length of the time extension drawback, you're still only able to buy about 1/5th of the Generic NTR Jump, before taking other drawbacks, and that's assuming you're spending most of your basic points on the origin perks, leaving you with only the stipend for the location perks and items. [I might be a bit off on the math there, I got sort of distracted partway through]
>While yes, in terms of total number of options you can purchase, this jump does give you a lot right off the bat, I feel that a large jump needs to give you a way to purchase a proportional number of options. It feels unfair to provide you with more choices but not provide a way to actually get a proportional number of them as the size of the document increases.
>I agree with folding Where's the Warehouse into Destitute Douchebag, but I feel like a power loss and item loss are distinct enough to be separate drawbacks... not to mention I'd rather not have a drawback that basically makes chainfail a 50/50 chance. Either one of them is survivable on their own, but a harsh loss; however, losing both of them is suicidal in all but the safest settings. And they are a bit heavy in value, but I feel that since people pretty much never take the power/item loss drawbacks in the first place, pricing them higher incentivizes people to take one of them when they might not normally.
>That said, I would be open to reducing the stipends, but to fairly do that I'd need to increase the number of drawbacks. Which I'm completely open to, I'm just having a hard time thinking of new ones.
Why do SBers think like this?

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How much should I powerwank Summons in Overlord if I take every single perk that upgrades Summoning from the jump? Also, what other Classes are the best compliment to a Summoner build?

>>93462583
The Gamer started in 2013. People have been using videogame mechanics in things since videogames have been a thing.


... Huh, the webcomic "Adventurers!" has a sequel running right now

>>93462566
>There’s that Naruto one where there guy gets dropped in with a Fallout Special system and fucking dump stats charisma and is actually socially retarded for basically the whole thing
right, I remember reading that. It had a plot that moved forward and was capable of using OC Characters when waranted at least, so that was a decent cut above the rest. It still became really shit when the MC gained empathy after leveling his charisma, becoming super preachy, and everyone but him became idiotic when he suggested to use ninja skills for non-military purposes as if ninjas aren't alredy doing that. Making the ROB the enemy was also a super stupid decision.
Looking back, I think the author was just doing the low CHA thing as excuse for him not having any rizz himself, since he really seemed to have struggled with character interactions beyond that.

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>>93460431
Yes and yes

>>93462599
>doing the low CHA thing as excuse for him not having any rizz himself
Rizz isn't hard. You just walk up to a woman, say "Hey beautiful" and hold a butterfly knife to her throat. She'll fall in love with you immediately.

>>93462588
>740k words
I think I'll pass.

>>93462599
I think the best resolution to that story would have been if he got to the right level, and Almost Perfect just... didn't fucking show up.
I thought that was what he was foreshadowing when he made the system feed the MC ninja-related perks, meaning the schedule and perk rotation would have changed entirely, and the MC was just refusing to see this because he was putting all his eggs in one basket.

>>93462590
I’ve not, nor will I, read the jump but I do have to agree that if it’s not got any item stipend then 136 perks, or 34 per origin line if there’s 4, is a bit too much. Although the fact that there’s an easily abusable time extension kinda makes that irrelevant as it apparently lets you buy basically everything you’d want from the jump without any real drawback danger. Of course you then have to spend probably millennia in a generic NTR universe and would likely go batshit insane without a method to change the universal narrative, but that also invalidates the whole point of going to such a cuckold loving fetish setting

>>93462590
Because the nature of their forum encourages a cowardly thought process. 'Rational' behavior, as they see it, is motivated entirely by imagined fear of consequences

>>93462616
What's wrong with a long fic? if you don't like it as you read you can always drop it.

>>93462590
>Either one of them is survivable on their own, but a harsh loss; however, losing both of them is suicidal in all but the safest settings.
Did this guy forget he wrote a 200 CP (100 CP with discounts) perk that makes it conceptually impossible for people to try to kill you?

>>93462600
Someone asking about Phantom blood made me curious about something. How long did Dio last for Jumpers who took Jojo part 1 Phantom Blood. I am writefagging now and it is looking like he is not going to see his 13th birthday. My Jumper was vehemently against killing him as a kid. My Jumper's companions... were more of the as soon as he becomes a danger he has to go. It's looking like they are going to win out here.

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>>93462590
They like to give me an aneurism that’s why-
>this is about the NTR Jump
They shouldn’t complain, it’s just the NTR experience. They should consider getting better fetishes.

>>93462627
>>93462647
The context of that post is the jumpmaker defending his decision to offer 3000 starting CP and offer thousands of CP in drawbacks (including up to 2000 CP via time extension drawback) when Smut forwarded our criticism of the former.

>>93462646
Before they met, Dio and Jonathan were indistinguishable from each other as kids (in the manga, at least) so that really is a fair point to raise.

Why would you rather talk about another community's GENERIC NTR JUMP instead of a jump we have on our own drive? Are you NTR fetishists? Have SB NTR'd you people?

>>93462593
you could take the necromancy specialty and the orb of death, to stack both for undead summoning, which would benefit both, from undead and summoning skill strengthening.

Worth noting that in setting the Elf King(whos a local child of a player), was able to use summoning magic beyond what is possible in Yggdrasil to summon a Primal Earth Elemental(which is level 87, when the cap of 10th tier spells are level 70 monsters), though unlike normal summoned, it required a constant mp upkeep cost to keep it summoned. this is also notable that the summon was of a higher level than himself(his level was in the 70s).

Personally I'd probably have jumper be a local human with level 100 and realm of heroes(freebie for local), the summoning and magical powerhouse talent, the summoning and necroancy specialty, and the abyss of magic perk, with a caloric stone infused divine tier equipment and the freebie orb of death.

Alltogether that would cost you like 1200CP Or 1500 if you want to be a skeleton instead to boost your magic power and undead summons further.

>>93462667
>Necromancy
Lame

>>93462664
>indistinguishable from each other as kids
I read the manga, what are you talking about?

>>93462666
Because, Satan, QQ is the only lewd community, and it's sad to see it get tainted with reddit-tier jumpmaking.

>>93462671
I am not suggesting to actually use necromancy, but just use undead summons to boost instead.

At some point early in your current jump either through a lapse of judgement or something else you traded someone for a can of magical beans in exchange for the rest of the jump you perceive all singing sounding like Hank Williams Sr. No matter the source. How does this effect Jumper if at all?

>>93462593
spiritualist is the most important, with behind it divine and arcane.

>>93462674
I mean that they were both complete shitheads, the difference is that Dio developed an inferiority complex (because at no point in his life he was secure in his position and always feared he would be booted back to the streets) while Jonathan didn't (because his position was secure meaning he grew as a person instead of doubling down of social climbing). It is not that difficult to get Dio to not be a bad person; if he had been rescued by a middle class or poor person he would have not had the issues that caused him to spiral into a villain.

Goddamn it stop, just stop with the offtopic bullshit

>>93462638
for fanfics it suggests a lack of skill in editing and pacing. Or worse, a patreon in the background heavily encouraging the author to drag things out and never to resolve anything. Which after looking into it, seems to be the case(the authors's patreon is even pretty large,making 9k$ every month)

>>93462704
Anon, if you want to talk about something specific then say so.

>>93462704
You retards encourage this by using the place as a general chat room. You fucking deserve to have shit you hate brought up too faggot, I gave up on it years ago.

>>93462593
I went all in on an Angel build based around summoning the heavenly hosts. I think it was something like Angel (15), Archangel (10), Seraphim of War (5) and then Taxiarch (1) for the fill thematic line. It basically just resulted in a super spell that let you summon an endless hoard of angels and archangels until the enemy managed to close the gate or sunder the banner of heaven that jumper had to carry. Thought it was a pretty fitting in setting role player build. You could probably do something similar and mono focus on one mythology to summon from with the levels. King of the Fae for fairies or Genesis Elemental if you have the right race to summon super elementals just be creative with it

>>93462704
We have Brandon Sanderson jumps. We have a jump on the drive subtitled Generic NTR. We have litRPG jumps. What, pray tell, is off-topic?

>>93462713
>for fanfics it suggests a lack of skill in editing and pacing. Or worse, a patreon in the background heavily encouraging the author to drag things out and never to resolve anything.
Good news, neither is the case.

>>93462699
>Johnathan
>a shithead
Anon, at worst he's a naive rich kid. That's not "I'm gonna burn this dog alive, slowly poison the man who took me in, spread rumors about his son, and sexually assault this girl."

>>93462717
>We have a jump on the drive subtitled Generic NTR
We do not, in fact, have that jump on our drive

>>93462733
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1poGyE75C2CXDbCOGbwiNiiKNB4NFxDfX/view?usp=drivesdk

>>93462676
Some based fellow reported the original doc and got the account associated with it taken down. Sadly it was a sockpuppet and the maker returned on a different account.

>>93462744
>sockpuppet account
NTA but that's a bannable offense isn't it?

>>93462730
no, like I said, the author got a very large patreon
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=59232504

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>Alien (Free/200/400/600 UP): Congratulations you’re an alien. A human sized one at that. Do try to be nice since the SSSP tends to default to killing aliens that get too uppity. For free you’re no stronger or different from Humans. Maybe a few extra limbs or blue skin but nothing that puts you above and beyond a human. For 200 UP you have some physical trait that puts you at a superhuman level. Something that can put you on the tier of starting to pose a threat to the Ultra suits would be here. For 400 UP you are really entering the big leagues now. Your raw stats are on par with the mercenary Ace killer. Shinjiro with his limiter removed would be the only threat humanity could pose to you at the start of the jump. For 600 UP you really are a tough cookie. You’d be on par with Mephisto who could fight evenly for a time with Shinjiro with his limiter removed and on the cusp of awakening his Type C suit in the anime.

You think I should change the price a tad? Maybe flesh out what each tier can do a tad too?

>>93462748
Which sadly didn't work whichever mod found out just deleted the sockpuppet and let them off with a warning.

>>93462748
QQ compared to SB has reasonable mods.

>>93462750
Yes? I didn’t say anything about their patreon.

>>93462764
NTA but are you illiterate?
>>93462730
>>for fanfics it suggests a lack of skill in editing and pacing. Or worse, a patreon in the background heavily encouraging the author to drag things out and never to resolve anything.
>Good news, neither is the case.
One very clearly /is/ the case

>>93462753
Looks good anon, what you writing for ?

>>93462753
Nah that looks fine pricing wise. So long as in setting the 600cp price point matches up to a suitable level of the cost you’re all good. I don’t know the setting but I’ll assume that the example offered is a pretty solid level to match in setting and to get that for just being a member of that species as a baseline is fine

>>93462753
Not knowing the source comparing the price tier to characters isn't all that helpful. I prefer concrete examples of feats.

>>93462770
>NTA but are you illiterate?
Says the person who failed to notice that the sentence didn’t end at “patreon in the background.”

>>93462785
Looks like Ultraman. It’s the same anon who was asking about the tony stark-esque engineering in a cave vs learning growth under mentorship perks two threads ago

>>93462778
The Ultraman Manga/Netflix series. Probably gonna put a continuity toggle in since I hear the anime diverges at season 2. From what I've read from the manga so far that does seem to hold up but Rena does seem to be more of a fangirl than she was in the anime.

>>93462664
Didn't Dio poison his own father? Was that an Anime only thing?

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>>93462611
Question about Redo's black god perk. Does the black goo have unavoidable downsides for those you infect with it, like weakening them in the long run, automatically making them ugly, messing up their personality, so so forth? Or could I use it safely to power up allies/companions/etc, and thusly myself?

>>93462806
Nta but yes, he did.

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What is your favorite jump to get a car in?

>>93462800
Pretty sure we have an ultraman jump that can be used for reference material with pricing.

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Which is the good RWBY jump again? I'm planning to use the fanfic toggle to go the DC since that shits connected and just ignore the main universe's bollocks.

>>93462834
Unironically QQ's LeWdBY.

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What jumps are being worked on right now?

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>>93462823
I tend to get my car in one of our action movie jumps like Robocop. But my favourite car option is in MMPR. Nothing beats the Radbug.

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>>93462834

>>93462840
Man you could get from Berlin to Warsaw really fast in that thing.

>>93462823
Gat Mobile from saints row

>>93462834
The one in the Crossover folder, Hazardous Interruptions. Otherwise I don’t think the ‘good’ one you’re wanting ever actually got onto our drive. Try the SB or Reddit drives

>>93462834
Unironically RWBY make more sense than DC, and has on average characters more likable.

>>93462823
I like getting mine from the Cosmic Motorhome supplement. Although I do have to wank that I can spend jump CP on the supplement so I can afford all the neat stuff

>>93462848
Personally I love using it in the Redline race. It amuses me how it completely outclasses all those fancy spacetech cars and their weird gimmicks with pure speed.

>>93462839
Battletech HBO is in the works, one anon is doing a Gundam jump although I forget the series it’s based on, there’s the Light of Terra redux and Ultraman anime. Those are all I’m aware of

>>93462783
>So long as in setting the 600cp price point matches up to a suitable level of the cost you’re all good.
Yeah 600 is pretty much the endgame and Bemular with the kiddy gloves off tier for the aliens that show up.

>>93462785
Free is pretty much just human but with different cosmetics,

200 is like Black king and Pigmon (hate that he's an Idolfag in this) where you have a trait that makes an Ultra suit a requirement for dealing with you like super speed or strength.

400 pretty much makes Shinjiro without his limiter, Bemular or Shin with the Zoffy suit the only threats. Ace killer for example is pretty hard to kill and was faster than any ultra suit user save for Shinjiro without his limiter.

600 is pretty much endgame level aliens like Bemular and Mephisto. The former is probably gonna be a perk to reach that level since He's actually a crippled ultraman and the latter is more in line with what you'll get.

>>93462742
That is not our drive dumbass

>>93462871
Ultramen are just really tall space cops with Sentai powers right?

>>93462820
It normally turns people into mindless monsters but there are methods you'd know to allow them to keep their intelligence.

>>93462825
The ultraman jump doesn't really fit the pricing for the manga. The price for the ultra suit in it is fine since it's weak for the mainline planet busting going on. The most destructive feats in the Manga and anime are around city block at most outside of Zetton and the Golden fortress (which is totally not King Joe).

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>>93462880
Blind or idiot?

>>93462880
NTA but I must correct you but the Egyptian Mythology jump is infant on our drive. Even it’s it’s not the NRT jump that they were originally referring too. It’s in the series section and has its own folder

>>93462888
In the mainline series yeah they're just space cops. In the Netflix/manga they're just guys in power armor

I want to use the Beastman jump except without being a chaos corrupt monster. Where can I pick up a perk that will allow me to subvert the powers of Chaos into my own personal flavor of corruption?

>>93462946
Corruption of Champions

>>93462858
Like with everything comic related, it very much depends on what part of DC you are running. Which is a headache in itself...

>>93462953
As with most things comic related, your best bet is to visit the serialized, animated version of the setting rather than the pulp comic version of the setting.

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>>93462593
summons in overlord anime are way more powerful than summons in D&D typically are. In normal D&D a summon spell will at best summon something that is a tier below whatever you're at, overlord anime however allows summon spells to summon stuff that's actually at the same tier as the summoner. For example a lvl 29 summoner that just unlocked 5th tier magic could use summon monster 5 to summon a creature that's around the same level they are, or 4 summons that are of the tier below them. This makes summoning incredibly powerful, especially since many summons have special abilities like damage reduction or they're also a spell caster or things like that.

We know summoning is super busted from as early as the encounter between Ainz and the Sunlight Scripture but because Ainz is so much more powerful it doesn't really matter and so it's easy to miss the implications. The sunlight scripture for example can effectively summon up angels that are equal to platinum rank adventurers that can also fly and have a host of special abilities as their leader can summon an orichalcum adventurer equivalent that boosts the defense of every ally it can see so long as it isn't moving around. Because of this they can effectively just run roughshod over the vast majority of opponents because they can just throw near endless reinforcements into the battle and if the angels do get killed they can just summon up more. It took a proper fully equipped adamantite adventurer team to force them to retreat in canon, and against Gazef (wthout his equipment) and his entire warrior band they were well on track to wiping out all of them despite Gazef being just below the realm of heroes (and thus higher level than even the leader of the sunlight scripture by around six or seven levels).

A jumper that is a summoner will not have the problems of the sunlight scripture though because you'll have access to 10th tier summons and super-tier summons and that's not even counting the perk boosts.

>>93462823
I like the one from Crackdown. It get's better the more you advance as a super soldier, and there's also a perk there that will make the same thing happen to any vehicle you pilot, and they can stack.

>>93462894
>>93462916
So I could indeed use it on companions/waifus I actually like without fucking them over. Thanks for the answer, PsychoAnon!

>>93462916
I want to remind you that you're a cool guy and an important jumpmaker for the community. Stay awesome

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>>93462964
Nta but it's even better than that, a build focused, like the king of elves, wich is between level 70 and 80 can summon a primal earth elemental, wich is level 87

>>93462980
I literally asked for OCP to solve the problem, fuck off.

>>93462992
Your perks job to Chaos. Sucks to suck.

>>93462979
You're also awesome Ric. Please take care, you feeling ok today? How's your day been?

>>93462992
Doesn't stop everything in the jump being specifically for raping, murdering, destroying, and desecrating. Sure no corruption or whatever, but why the fuck are you jumping it if not to do those things?

>>93462839
>Asura's Wrath rewrite
>Light Of Terra Dupe/Gauntlet
>Sonic 06

>>93463021
Dude get off my dick already

What if a jumper whores themselves out? Can they be redeemed?

>>93463034
Thin skinned little faggot.

>>93462964
>The sunlight scripture for example can effectively summon up angels that are equal to platinum rank adventurers that can also fly and have a host of special abilities
most notably I think is that the angels are immune to non-magical damage, which makes them able to easily slaughter many platinum ranks. Hell they almost killed Gazef because none of his men could touch them, and he himself was only able to compete because he knows a special martial art to infuse his sword with ki to make it count as a magical weapon, and even he was about to bo fought to exhaustion because he had to keep spamming martial arts.
>>93462985
nta, but worht noting that the Elf King wasn't just a summoning specialist, but also a high level druid and earth elementalist, which all together stacked for the Primal Earth Elemental summoning, which isn't even possible in Yggdrasil.

But yeah, its mentioned that someone who specialises in Summoning Magic can usualyl summon monsters stronger than themselves. In jump this is even much more useful, since the talent notably boosts the stats of the summons furthers.

Whelp. That's enough thread for today. You all have fun with whatever... all this is. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

Looks like ESL hours have started. You can tell by the rising tide of shitposts and the lack of punctuation and capitalization.

Are Warhammer High Elves the most chad elves in the chain? Talking actual chads here -- warrior physiognomy, get shit done, don't sit around talking poetry and whinging about humans -- not le me chad le you virgin shit.

>>93463021
I can't believe Jumper-Kun would disrespect the original author's intention like that...

>>93462964
Necromancy is also pretty busted since they can be made permanent by using corpses. Ainz can make like twelve lvl 35 undead a day, like elder liches and the death series undead. lvl 35 is basically the peak of the realm of heroes in setting which means each one of those undead is potentially equivalent to some of the most power people in any given nation. He can also make like 20 lower level undead a day that are iirc around up to lvl 22 or so, and up to 4 undead up to around lvl 70, or lvl 90 if he uses two of his high tier undead creation uses on a single target.

Given a bit of time to get started he could easily form a permanent army of perfectly loyal created undead, all of which benefit from his necromancy and summoning boosts, that could pretty easily defeat anything in the new world outside of the big outliers like the true dragon lords.

A jumper could easily replicate that but make it even better since Ainz doesn't have the benefit of the summoning specialty perk which gives summons extra abilities on top of making them more powerful in general.

Nobody fucking cares about necromancy

>>93462946
I think a few QQ jumps have perks like that? Love Mary something-or-other I think had one.

>>93462839
Appleseed

>>93463082
True, but you can use that as a gauge for how more interesting summons would work in Overlord.

>>93463067
If that's your criteria then hell no they aren't.

>>93463068
Nah for real though it's not even about what you do there, it's like why go to the jump where all the perks are kill maim burn rape if you don't want to kill maim burn rape?

>>93463087
>>93463073
Undead seem to be on the far side of quantity vs quality, so they're a poor benchmark for the capabilities of summons but a decent point of comparison for number of summons you can produce

>>93463082
I care about necromancy. Summoning up spooky skeletons to spook my enemies is not only great fun but lets me avoid the logistical issues of having to supply a living army. They also make great trap detectors in dungeon crawls.

>>93463073
>Ainz can make like twelve lvl 35 undead a day, like elder liches and the death series undead. lvl 35 is basically the peak of the realm of heroes in setting which means each one of those undead is potentially equivalent to some of the most power people in any given nation.
nta, but the cap of mid-tier undead creation is level 40, though the only undead like that we see him create are the Soul Eaters(which are basically nation slayers by themselves, as they got an instant death author low level humans cant resist and they get stronger with each kill).
Also 40 is rarely reachable by native humanoids in the new world, like Rigrit and Fluder is implied to be close to it. Though the author does mention that level 40 is a wall new worlders cant get past.

>>93463095
NTA, because I like mutations
Kill yourself by the way

Is this the return of the Overlord cock sucking ESL?

>>93462839
Do we have a jump that gives skyrim level of enchanting?

>>93463095
For the same reason tons of people jump shit like Kuroinu with the intention of diverging canon and saving everyone. It's not complicated.

>>93463107
Why even say NTA when you're clearly that anon?

>>93463067
Yes, but also no. Their triumphs are great, but so are their failings. They don't whine about humans so much as they generally think humans are unreliable and Teclis is a weird little nerd for caring about them. He's a weird little nerd in general, but he's generally benign (outside of the End Times, but most if not all of that is him doing whatever Lileath tells him, and we all know how shady she is).

Also, the Asur WOULD be much more active than they are, but they take WWI-tier population losses on the regular dealing with Malekith and his Black Crusades- I mean attempts at seizing the Phoenix Throne. They've also never been the same since the whole War of Vengeance/the Beard thing. They lost a lot of things they'll never get back doing that, even if ultimately the Dawi were hit harder by events immediately after that.

>>93463105
nta, but high quality undeads are a thing, like Ainz does have things like Doom Lords and Elemental skulls lying around, he just cant make permanent new minions above level 40, so he's limited to a few high class undead per fight which are temporary.

But yeah the strongest summons in setting are explicitly Angels, Devils and Dragons, who have generally higher stats and access to more spells(typical summons have only around 8 spells).

>>93463111
Don't worry, anon. We'll get back to your Narutos or the Hero Academias here soon enough. Just go make some tendies and check back in a few hours.

>>93463118
because i am not?
I am this anon
>>93463049
>>93463129

>>93463134
Ew no thanks.

>>93463129
>he just cant make permanent new minions above level 40
I thought Death Knights were 60some.

>>93463119
>>93463091
Okay, but the big take away here is that they aren't useless ass D&D twink elves. Right?

>>93462946
In that fucking jump you retard.

>>93463141
Death Knights are level 35, though there defensive abilities are closer to level 40, while there offensive abilities are around level 25.
Though necromancy skills can boost those stats slightly further(I think it was like 20%), the level remains.
Likelyy the same for other equivalent undead like Death Warriors, Death Cavaliers, Death Wizards, Death Priests and death Assassins.

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You get a chain, but the order of jumps you take is decided by the 'random image' button on Danbooru.
>Umeneko no naku koro ni
FUCK

>>93463155
Huh. Weird. I swear I remember that one old-ass mage in the Empire losing his shit over the level of Ainz DKs because they had one in a basement somewhere and its level was 50 or 60 some. I guess I'm just misremembering.

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>>93463119
I'm going to bully Malekith.

>>93463016
I slept all afternoon for some reason. I'm starting to consider buying coke soda on bulk.

>>93463163
What's that from?

>>93463145
Post it

>>93463171
Lt Ouroumov's Worm CYOA V17. Bloated and full of options that don't faithfully represent their source but fuck I like the overmind ascension stuff too much to care and want to use it in a chain.

>>93463162
Maybe you're confused because the jump for some reason gives you level 60 power as a Realm of Hero adventurer, but in setting level 40 is the hard limit what an outlier among outliers of humanity can achieve.
The Mage did freak out about the Death Knights, because controlling an undead of such a high level is impossible for him(though he keeps trying), and Ainz got dozens preparing picnic tables and shit.

I just dont get why the author introduced the whole concept of Yggdrasil enchanting via the usage of data crystals, but then not actually using it in the new world, and having the new worlders for some reason create their own enchanting system based on DnD.

>>93463186
That's probably it. Thanks for the rundown, anon. While we're talking Overlord, I know it focuses on undead summons, for obvious reasons, but are there any other summons that are really discussed? I know there's the angels the Scriptures summon in the first ep, and I guess the goblins Enri summons -- the squad first and the army later -- count as summons, but I can't think of anything else.

I like nature and fey themed stuff, so I've been thinking about what you could summon by way of fey / fairy high end summons and armies.

>>93463201
Because most creators don't plot their whole series out, do all the world building, and make sure it is internally consistent to run for X number of books / seasons. Some do and when you run into those series they're very satisfying for that reason, but most more or less make it up as they go along and it shows. Well, it shows to lore autists. Normies don't notice shit.

>>93463206
Ainz summons a primal fire elemental as one of the first things he does in the entire series with the Guild Staff.

>>93463178
Child of Chaos (200 CP): The Horned Ones were born of Chaos. Bred by Chaos. Moulded by the Four Gods. Is it any wonder then that no matter how warped, defiled, or twisted their bodies become, they are still the perfect soldiers that Chaos desires? To this end, a boon has been granted - woven into your flesh. No matter the source, no matter the cause, and no matter how horrific the change may be - your body will automatically take the worst they have to offer, and will turn it into a boon. Experimented upon by a skaven flesh-shaper? He won’t realize it, but he just gave you the claws and tools to escape. A curse from the Gods that should have crippled you, instead made your skin stronger and better at deflecting the Empire’s bullets.

>>93463143
Looks-wise they are often depicted as such, but Tyrion is canonically jacked (and also might as well be a Khorne worshipper given how he gets in combat, thanks to the mental effect of the Curse of Aenarion), and the White Lions of Chrace are axe-wielding royal bodyguards descended from some woodsmen who saved the Phoenix King from a Dark Elf Assassin way back in the day. Also they kill lions in single combat. They are clearly ripped. Then there's Alith Anar, whose entire reason for existing and being as immortal as he is is that he hates Malekith for betraying him and his dad. He spends his free time thinking of increasingly painful ways to kill Dark Elves. He's part of the two-man "I Became An Immortal Spirit Of Vengeance Out Of Sheer Hatred For Malekith Specifically Club," and the other member is Grombrindal.

Now, Alarielle might seem like a granola girl, but she can purge a Chaos Champion of his dark blessings just by touching him. This usually kills him. Consider also that her true love is Tyrion (except in End Times but let's not talk about that) and the sheer carnage he's willing to commit in her defense, and that she's the most warlike Everqueen in Asur history, willing to command armies on the regular.

Ok I'm back now.

>>93463161
I just randomed Baalbuddy. How do I start this chain without accidentally becoming king of the elves?

>>93463206
Some summons are the five primal elementals, wich shouldn't be able to be regularly summoned but the staff of ainz ooal gown or certain advanced builds in the new world can, they are level 87 except for the star that is at level 90, the dark youngs, wich are at level 90 but requires thousands of sacrifices, a super tier spell, and are temporary, the cherubim gatekeepers wich are level 80 created by another super tier spell, and armageddon evil spawn tons of weak demons. Fae related spells we know sadly are only guiding ones, bless of titania, wich guide you through the less dangerous path.
Nta.

>>93463206
its mentioned that the strongest summons are Angels, Demons and Dragons(though we never actually see anyone summon draogns), who have generally higher stats and access to more spells(normal summons typically only have up to 8 spells each, but the high tier Demon Demiurge summons at one point for example has 20 spells, despite having a warrior build, though that makes his spells pretty weak for his level)

Otherwise worth noting that summons through spell casting are pretty much always temporary, and that you can only have a single instance of summoning active at the same time, as in you can summon one strong monster around your level, or a handful of monsters of the tier below, but both would be one spell each, and using a new one, dismisses the old one. At the 10th tier of spells(which requires 63-69 levels of relevant spellcasters classes) you can use 10th tier summons for monsters up to level 70, which typically means the highest class of mosnters aren't avaiable, though some classes/races get skills that allow them to summon monsters stronger than that a limited number of times per day, like ainz can summon level 90 undead twice a day, or Demiurge can sumon a high level Demon once every 100 hours I think.

The Typical summons for nature themed spellcasters seems to be Elementals as we see with Elven druids or LIzardmen shamans. With the Elf King as mentioned above being able to summon an level 87 primal earth elemental because of his earth elementalist class synergizing with his summoning and high druid classes.

Otherwise animal summons have been mentioned but not shown or been elaborated on.

>>93463164
Hey man, it happens, don't worry. Anyhow, found any tournament at your locals, or no luck?

>>93463213
yeah, but the author wrote that shit in the web novel, and then wrote it again in the light novel, despite knowing it wont be relevant.

>>93463246
Welcome back WoL! Hope you had a nice nap!

>>93463275
Huh?

>>93463105
Anon undead in Overlord Anime can be incredibly powerful. Low tier stuff like skeletons are just that, low tier. Higher tier undead can not only be intelligent but incredibly powerful. The elder liches Ainz can casually create (and in fact did create so many of they effectively form the administration of the sorcerous kingdom in canon) are highly intelligent lvl 35 arcane casters capable of 5th tier magic and summoning up their own undead servants (but not creating permanent undead, as that's apparently summons can't do). And those elder liches are relatively low end themselves. Night Liches are basically elder liches but much higher level and canon also showed us that Ainz can call up what is effectively a demilich that is capable of 10th tier magic and is a really powerful elementalist damage dealer.

Undead are no less powerful or capable than any other type of summon in Overlord Anime, they just have different strengths and weaknesses with their greatest strength being that if you build for it you can make them permanent via undead creation skills.

>>93463283
Didn't you go to sleep? Sorry, its a bit late for me, might have confused some stuff

>>93463295
>Undead are no less powerful or capable than any other type of summon in Overlord Anime
This is so stupid that it offends me. You cannot tell me that a summonable unit can summon more of itself with a variety of specializations that are also objectively strong relative to other beings of the same level of power. That's not 'no less powerful', it's objectively superior in every single metric with no downsides to speak of.
So it's obviously a wrong assertion. Now shut the fuck up.

>>93463141
death knights are lvl 35. It's implied he can make stuff higher than lvl 40 permanent but that it requires higher level corpses to do so, which is a problem because the vast majority of the new world never even reach beyond the single digits. Like the Elf King's corpse for example should be enough to let him make a permanent lvl 90+ undead like an Overlord Wiseman but Ainz probably won't do that in setting because 1) he's dumb and will probably forget he even fought the elf king in like a month and 2) there's no point to him doing it because he doesn't need a high level undead given he can effectively make endless amounts of low tier undead that are just as effective given how most of the world is low level, and the few high tier threats can just get gang-banged by Ainz and the floor guardians.

>>93463295
Nta but
>Undead are no less powerful or capable than any other type of summon
according to>>93463129
>>93463266
they are less powerful than dragons, angels and devils as summons.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed with this Overlord talk now. Let's talk about Naruto or Exalted or something.

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>>93463295
>The elder liches Ainz can casually create (and in fact did create so many of they effectively form the administration of the sorcerous kingdom in canon) are highly intelligent lvl 35 arcane casters capable of 5th tier magic and summoning up their own undead servants (but not creating permanent undead, as that's apparently summons can't do).
nta, but Elder Liches are level 22, though there stats are higher if summoned by Ainz. Technically that makes them low tier undead, Ainz can create 20 times per day.

Is taking a "no outside powers" drawback in jump 1 bullshit or just an appropriate balance for the fact that you have no OOCP to draw on?

>>93463162
Fluder was losing his shit over the idea that Ainz could just make death knights at will, which as far as he knew was impossible. Ainz's death knight might actually have been weaker than the death knight that Fluder captured on account of the captured death knight being "natural" and not a summon, meaning it has the potential to grow more powerful over time. On the flip side Ainz's death knights have much better stats than normal because of his various necromancy boosts, so it's hard to say whether or not Fluder would have been able to tell the difference between them anyway and ultimately it doesn't really matter because Fluder is basically a non-entity at this point and unlikely to show up in canon again.

Failing to capitalize the first letter of your post should be a bannable offense. Saying 'nta' when you're replying to yourself should be an automatic rangeban.

idc

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>>93463269
Went kill time at locals and it was alright. My melodious are weak af against the top meta but has a fair chance against everything else. Finally found some ragnaraika and Aromage that aren't overpriced af so I'll get them and mess with my naturia deck. Only issue is that the cards can lock me out of my therion cards and shut down my OTK naturia line (mosquito and cliff with Kaiju) which is how the deck wins games.
On that note I finally found a Weiss shwarz group. Cards are more expensive than casual Yu-Gi-Oh but less than competitive Yu-Gi-Oh unless I collect the super expensive collection cards.
There's a bocchi the rock starter deck so I'm thinking of going with that.

>>93463332
It's fine. It's not like you need to go to some mundane slice of life jump to get useless perks that you can give up first.

>>93463325
Why? If people want to talk about overlord let them.

>>93463314
NTA, but I think only permanent summons can summon other monsters. The Demon Demiurge summoned for example explicitly cant summon another of himself, because he was summoned himself, despite normal members of his race being able to summon another member of their race once per day or something.
Or maybe its a limit of monsters summoned via skill, only being able to summon monsters via spells.

>>93463305
I had to go out for a Dentist's appointment, which I was put under for, so you are technically correct.

>>93462147
Here I just said I had to do some IRL stuff.

>>93462905
Excuse me Im not sure if you are retarded or just illiterate or what but that is not generic ntr. Gen ntr is on the qq drive.

Jumps where I can load up with a full compliment of 8 Companions without making up OC?

>>93463201
I think it was a juxtaposition between the fact that the Yggdrasil characters are basically hard locked in what they are capable of while the locals aren't. Yggdrasil crafters are restricted to set recipes which require specific ingredients and materials to make whereas new world enchanting doesn't. This is something brought up in canon on occasion both to use as justification for Ainz's paranoia and also to highlight that certain things are just beyond Yggdrasil characters. For example homunculus maids and vampire brides cannot cook because they don't have crafting classes for making food. As a result no matter what they try anything they attempt to cook will be ruined even if they follow exact step-by-step instructions. NPC's are basically static, as are level 100 players, they're not going to get new spells or skills or abilities and they're never going to grow beyond what they start with. Conversely new world locals have no such limitations but do suffer from the fact that they have to deal with level caps that prevent them from ever reaching the highest levels alongside ignorance of how the system works and thus they don't know they're fucking up their build by pursuing non-complementary vocations / classes and don't even know they have builds in the first place. In theory though if a local could get to lvl 100 and had a properly optimized build they would be far more versatile and capable than anyone from Yggdrasil on account of their ability to continue learning new spells and abilities and further developing their skills.

>>93463332
It's totally fine, unless the drawback specifically forbids you from doing it. Also, even if you have no perks to lose, losing access to the warehouse is something that can happen even in Jump 1.

>>93463364
Oh, hope everything is good, and your teeth are all sparkly white.

>>93463370
The joke is that the jump calls itself Generic Neter which is written NTR in hieroglyphics because they didn't write voewls.

>>93463385
Anon, levels and classes and suchnot don't actually exist in the new world.

>>93463343
Glad to hear Ric. Heard of Weiss, but thought it was more, collect cool cards, rather than an actual game. Happy to hear all seems good.

Also thanks for the pic, nice. What your thoughts on the new CG?

>>93463206
We see more angels in the Holy Kingdom of Roble and the elf king also uses a super powerful primal earth elemental summon that is actually even higher level than he is. We don't see much summoning focused stuff though because the local nations near Nazarick are punching bags and thus narratively aren't allowed to have cool shit that could potentially show up Nazarick. Re-Estrize in particular is guilty of this as the entire kingdom seems to have been set up from the start to be as awful and mismanaged as possible while also being effectively under the thumb of a criminal cartel that has more military power than the entire kingdom while the neighboring baharuth empire seems to have somehow avoided most of that with all of the empire's powerful people decided to just be neutral for some reason.

>>93463398
It went as expected. My face is numb right now, and there might be some pain for the next few days, but that is normal. Thanks for the well wishes.

>>93463385
honestly, fair enough.
I just wish the locals were a bit more powerful for it to make a bit more sense. Like the difference in scale is kinda insane.
very minor correction though, the new worlders still have a spell cap, its mentioned in the bonus novel, since Keno's father forbade her from learning that hot spring spell, since that would be a waste of the spells she can ever learn.

>>93463385
Huh. Can't Heroes from Redo of Healer fuck someone and unlock their level caps? I thought that was the reason people rode Healers cock when they thought he was drugged up. If that's the case, couldn't you just fuck your guild into greater power?

How do you upgrade your undead minions? I generally use transmutation to give them all a layer of very durable metal with build in enhancements.

How dangerous would the Elden Beast be to a modern army?

>>93463422
By setting them on fire and using the ashes as a reagent for proper, living summons.

>>93463422
I don't have undead minions. I have Taken minions, and they automatically grow stronger over time. And with every kill they make.

>>93463401
nta, but while they dont exist as explicit thing, the general principle of personal growth and realizing your potential as you kill things and train is still a thing, it even increases your life force and mana, in a way very similar to player levels.

>>93463417
A male hero can increase someone's level cap by 1 with their semen 3 times a day. Females do not share this ability.

>>93463433
So my plan to fuck my guild to greatness is feasible?

>>93463161
>Princess Connect!
We don't have a jump for that.

>>93463381
Three Houses?

>>93463206
The lizardman alliance used Swamp Elementals in their battle against the Elder Lich that Cocytus sent in to attack them, and the elder lich summoned up a bunch of blood meat hulks as bodyguards. Iirc the swamp elemental summoning also showcased ritual casting where they were able to do a ritual to summon up something more powerful than they would normally be capable of, iirc swamp elementals were a 4th tier summon but the lizardmen were only 3rd tier casters at best. Iirc the albino lizardman lady also showed in the same fight the "over magic" meta-magic skill that let her cast spells on tier higher than she could normally cast at the expense of it costing way more mana than normal.

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>>93463407
Better than Akito by a small margin, which is probably not high praise. The girls are cute but as other cg spin offs. It's quite terrible compared to the original.
Yeah Weiss are basically the anime cards meaning they range from worthless to overpriced thanks to signing from VAs on the cards. Mostly collector but the game itself seems fun and an entire box of arifureta costs less than the ritual beast deck. Including the new sleeves and maybe even a stater deck

>>93463436
Yeah, kinda. It might take a while.

>>93463390
Sorry, >>93463411 was meant for you.

>>93463426
Jobs to a missile.

Rhea from FE Three Houses does not job to a missile. (Sort of)

Rhea solos Elden Ring. Trust me bro.

>>93463206
Techniacally the strongest summon is the draconic emperor's, even if this information is absolutely useless.

>>93463431
'The general principle' of being unable to pick up a sword because you don't have Warrior levels? You're just wrong.

>>93463444
Eeeeh, FemLeluch is hot, and same with that Catherine chick, so that is good enough for me.

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>>93463450
>Rhea from FE Three Houses does not job to a missile
That's because she wields a missile. A proper bunker buster.

>>93463314
Spell casters have hard limits in regards to how much mana they have which as a result means they have far lower combat endurance than martial types. That said yes magic caster summons that can then call up summons of their own are incredibly strong and dangerous but that's not something limited to undead. Summoning in overlord anime is just really fucking strong, it's the entire reason why the sunlight scripture exists because the theocracy realized that an elite unit of summoners is just fucking unfair.

>>93463452
I didnt say anything about the limits, I said they still have an experience equivalent to leveling up.

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>>93463456
Not gonna disagree. The cg waifu game is very high tier. No matter what

>>93463457
I have a funnel and access to purified succubus milk.

>>93463467
Tits too small, didn't read.

>>93463462
Anon seriously you're just wrong shut the fuck up. Those aren't 'levels' any more than DBZ power levels are a litRPG system.

>>93463332
You end up in the same situation either way.

>>93463422
I use wraiths, spirits, vampires, demons, and living soldiers along with the occasional skeleton but I make my skeletons by rendering things like dragon bones down to a fine powdered dust and infusing them with massive amounts of mana before reforming the bone dust into a humanoid skeleton shape. Though this can be tweaked or changed as needed for any shape of minion.

I also just have tons and tons of reincarnated soldiers that come from those sent to various afterlifes who sign up after they die to get better treatment (ones that would have gone to another god or to oblivion instead of to me basically, they can sign up to my army and instead they go to one of my afyerlives as if they sold me their souls)

>>93463475
anon, people quite literally get more abilities, stats life force and mana by killing tons of shit.

>>93463328
nta but Iguava was Ainz dicking around and experimenting with how his skills worked. He can create lvl 35 elder liches using his medium tier undead creation and also create less powerful elder liches using his lower tier undead creation, but he typically doesn't use the low-tier stuff on things like elder liches because he's usually using all of them to create skeletons to lease out to people as cheap labor.

>>93463475
Nta but they are often classified as what they would be if they had levels, like the elf king between 70 and 80, must we start an argument over wording?

>>93463332
There's no issue because ultimately the outcome is the same regardless of whether or not you have previous jumps.

>>93463475
Caster levels and spell slots prove you wrong dipshit.

If I took elf as my race, and local, could I say I'm the son of the king of elves, to justify my power?

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>>93463472
Anon you can't judge a girl solely by the size of her breasts.

>>93463486
Does every shounen manga have a leveling system we just never hear about then? No.

>>93463492
Yes. Don't call them levels.

>>93463498
So cooking is impossible without Crafter levels for New Worlders then?

>>93463503
Can =/= Should

>>93463344
There was a time where I was such a unironic autistic that I would do this btw. Oregairu tended to be my sacrificial lamb.

Do not follow my past-self's footprints.

>>93463506
>So cooking is impossible without Crafter levels for New Worlders then?
Im not sure what is so hard for you to understand but just because they have their own different setup doesnt mean no setup exists.

>>93463506
Anon we litterally have the entire build for some new worlder.
>Antilene
Fighter (10)
Berserker (10)
Master Fighter (10)
Lesser Valkyrie/Almighty (5)
Weapon Master (7)
Rogue (1)
Assassin (5)
Executioner (10)
Cleric (10)
High Cleric (10)
Inquisitor (10)

>>93463401
They do, the locals just don't know it. It's implied some Player in the past used a world item to basically force the Yggdrasil system onto the new world, probably at the same time the translation mechanism was introduced. Thanks to that the new world is actually deterministic. We also know the system is canon because it is explicitly mentioned that Adherent of Surshana exists. One of the theocracy guys has it and its' a prestige class that came into existence because of the theocracy's worship of Surshana, a Player that was one of the six great gods in the past. The system exists in the new world and the locals just don't know about it because the only people that could tell them are Players and Players come from a dysoptian cyberpunk future where information sharing was explicitly something that was heavily discouraged.

>>93463487
I dont think Ainz can customize the undead he creates, it seems he just selects the specific kind and if he's gonna use skills to buff it, but their build seems preset. I geniuenly dont think he could summon a stronger Elder Lich, at least not yet. Maybe he can refine his usage of the skill, like he did with that Amensia spell.
>>93463501
Either that or the child of an Elf and another player descendent in the Slaine Theocracy(presumebly born of rape).

>>93463530
>We also know the system is canon because it is explicitly mentioned that Adherent of Surshana exists. One of the theocracy guys has it and its' a prestige class that came into existence because of the theocracy's worship of Surshana, a Player that was one of the six great gods in the past
NTA, this is an inherently contradictory statement. It literally cannot be true because if it were true then it would debunk itself by the literal meaning of the words said.

>>93463506
>Does every shounen manga have a leveling system we just never hear about then? No.
Anon, are you actually fucking retarded? In other shounen you don't get literally stronger by killing people.

DBZ, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Jujutsu Kaisen, One Piece, Jojo, Hunter X Hunter... In none of these you get stronger by upping your kill count, it's not a common shounen thing. Wake up to reality.

>>93463522
It in fact does mean no such set up exists. The new world is a real world and not a video game

>>93463528
Not real

>>93463538
Nta but how is that contradictory?

>>93463555
It litterally come from the author, do you want to take it up with him?

>>93463538
There's nothing contradictory about my statement. Adherent of Surshana is a canon prestige class that came into existence in setting because the theocracy worships the dude. It can't exist as a class unless the system also exists, since it does exist though it is proof that the system is in place even if the locals don't know it.

>>93463548
The new world is a real world that had video game mechanics forced on it. How the locals interact with the system is different from how people from Yggdrasil interact with it, but it doesn't mean the system isn't in place. In fact we know it is, we've got canon builds for a whole bunch of new world characters and as mentioned before the Adherent of Surshana prestige class exists.

And so Overlord joins Exalted and company in the Hall of Autism!

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How do you convince gods that treat mortals like shit to stop doing that?

>>93463556
>The New World is deterministic. You have levels and classes and cannot progress without accumulating experience, you have a level cap
>This Class which CAME INTO EXISTENCE BECAUSE OF BELIEF IN A DEITY FIGURE is supposed to be proof of that
But actually-

>>93463567
If a class can come into existence within the system, which is ridged and inflexible by nature, then the system doesn't/cannot exist as such because otherwise it would be impossible for such a class to exist as something from outside of its remit.
Ergo there is no system and it's all just a shitty and inaccurate way of modeling the power system of the New World.

>>93463583
Get the Water Mirror from Valkyrie Profile and keep giving them magic zoom calls until they snap.

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>>93463583
>How do you convince gods that treat mortals like shit to stop doing that?
By having a nice talk with them, it usually goes better than expected

>>93463583
Farm them for Authorities.

>>93463580
Is it morally wrong to open the Black Vault in Overlord?

>>93463586
To play devil's advocate, all that means is that there is a more fundamental system beneath the video game mechanics that are governed by collective consensus which can alter the rules of the game system to match the people's opinions.

>>93463599
No, just like it isn't immoral for me to use Demiurge as a skin rug.

>>93463586
Are you actually retarded? There were fucktons of random and idiotic classes in the game. Also why would you assume a system couldnt incorporate new stuff as either part of old classes or assimilate them into new classes?

>>93463605
Because that's still a contradiction. If the system is malleable enough that faith can create new fucking classes than it's not a world that runs on a system, it's a world that runs on faith, flat out.

Jetstream Sams legs are too short.

I don't understand this stupid argument. What is even the point?

>>93463614
So you somehow have a very rigid and retarded definition of system in your head that does not in any way match what a system really is and you are idiotically sticking to that. Good to know you really are brain damaged.

>>93463626
There is no point but I saw a Last Origin jump.

>>93463626
>this stupid argument
Which one?
>>93463617 assertion that Jetstream Sam's legs are too short?

>>93463614
Anon just because the system got overlayed over what already existed doesn't mean it erased what was there to begin with. In fact we know it didn't, the queen of the dragonic kingdom is capable of using wild magic despite being a new worlder that was born after the level system was introduced thanks to both her heritage (she's a descendent of the brightness dragon lord) and an innate talent she has. People from Yggdrasil are hard locked to what was possible in Yggdrasil because that's where they're from, people in the new world have whatever the new world was capable of on top of the yggdrasil system that got introduced.

>>93463661
This guy >>93463628 >>93463605 >>93463567
His argument is so incoherent and pointless that it baffles me why he's even posting.

>>93463667
Maybe he's upset about Sam's legs.

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I can't tell what is and isn't shitposting right now so I'm gonna unilaterally assume that the last 50-100 or so posts were nothing but shitposting and promptly ignore them.

So what's going on in your chains today?

>>93463667
anon that's at least two different people, maybe three, because you only linked one of my posts. You're also the one failing to make any sort of argument.

>>93463667
Excuse me are you trying to say that no religious system can be a system now?

>>93463667
I love when a retard thinks he's right.

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>>93463670
Not the anon you replied too but his legs do look weirdly short.

>>93463667
What even is your argument? That a system cant incorporate or use existi g stuff or that it cant interact with a religion? Or a religion cant be built around one?

>>93463695
It could be because the pauldron on his right shoulder is making his torso look much larger / higher than it actually is.

>>93463672
Does your Poke-wife have to do whatever you say if you have 8 badges?

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>>93463672
Starting a new one. I'm trying to do full writeups this time around but cringe more at each word I put down. I'm not even at the sex scenes yet.

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>>93463672
I found out that DxD got a midquel spin-off recently, so now I'm trying to think on whether I should retcon my chain to take its characters into consideration or not.