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Tell me /jc/, which way does she spin?
Besides A System of Your Own from Solo Leveling, are there any jumps with options that lets you improve a specific power and/or system from a different jump? Either overtime like A System of Your Own, or just a one time boost from “importing” it? I think it might be neat to do a chain focusing on one thing I keep powering up.
Friendly reminder that Sheev Palpatine is Based.
Reposting the jump. Just fixed the typos that were pointed out in the last version.
>>93483116Gene's merge jump has something for improving powers by combining them. Not sure if that's quite what you're looking for.
>>93483123Thanks for the jump Gene. Time to become an autistic mute powerwasher!
>>93483117Nah, he's cringe and ugly.
>>93483123What setting needs the gentle touch of a fine power wasker the most?
>>93483117Not nearly as based as this dude.
>>93483148The Secret World. You need to powerwash away all the Filth.
>>93483148Doesn't the Magnus Archive have a god of filth? It'd probably help somewhat there.
>>93483148From a certain perspective that's literally the entire plot of Super Mario Sunshine.
>>93483173The Corruption, yes. Though it's also the Power that represents the fear of moral decay, hidden dark secrets, corruption in a philosophical sense and more. Can't exactly wash away that level of grime physically.
>>9348314840k to piss off Nurgle
>>93483186But what if...you could?>MAKE IT ALL SHINE - 600WPIt’s funny how many problems in this world are solved with a glorifiedsuper soaker. Going forward, you’ll find a frankly impossible amount ofproblems can be resolved by cleaning. A family falling apart? Watch theirangst melt away along with all the bird poop on their roof. Crime runningrampant? Just make the city a more pleasant place to live. The destructionof the human race due to forces beyond our control? There’s no promiseyou’ll finish in time, or know what specifically needs to be cleaned, butenough cleaning can theoretically solve even this calamity… somehow.
>>93483201Then enjoy being the unpaid janny for the entire multiverse I guess, sucker.
>>93483148Fallout, those assholes never clean anything even though there are loads of pre-war cleaning products available.
>>93483191>CLEANSING THE FILTH OF HERESY!
>>93483148Maeltopia. There's a God of Rot over there and its spawn literally feast on fruiting corpses.
Xenoblade Chronicles X was a fun and cool game. And we have a jump for it.What did you guys do there?
>>93483191Polish that terminator armor until it shines!
>>93483225Never played the game and never read the jump. Don't think I've ever played any of the Xeno-series actually.What's it about?
>>93483148Poptropica
Random thought I had, what's the bare minimum amount of perks do you guys think a jump should have to be accepted?
>>93483234NTA but Earth gets caught in the crossfire between two alien races, humans evacuate before Earth goes kaboom and have to resettle on a distant planet where the wildlife is all dinosaurs and JRPG monsters and shit.I didn't like it nearly as much as the other 3 Xenoblade games but some people really like it for some reason.
Owlcat Rogue Trader jump when?
>>93483268You know the rules anon, chop chop
>>93483268Neverever. IIRC Val talked about it a while back.
>>93483234Earth got caught in the middle between two warring alien empires, and got destroyed, and humanity escaped on a bunch of colony ships that went in random directions across space.The on you're on crash lands on a weird planet, now you have to survive and carve out a life for your fleet of surviving humans. Unfortunately the ship broke apart during athmospheric entry, and the main Lifehold, supposedly containing thousands of human lives on it, went missing. So in addition to settling the planet you have to find the Lifehold before the life support systems fail.Also, a splinter fleet of the evil alien empire from said conflict followed you to Earth and wants to kill you, so go fuck them up too and steal away the lesser races they enslaved to work for you instead.Also the music is pretty rad
>>93483268https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0YNqhaw0I
>>93483275Nein, my playthrough died to bugs in Commorragh and I never started a new one. I wouldn't be able to make a proper jump for it.
>>93483263>>93483281One of the factions is space mafia iirc, and the progenitor gods of their species put a killcode to their entire race inside humanities genetic code. That's why they chase after you once the earth is blown up.
>>93483291"He who asks 'Jump when?' volunteers to make it"; it is the very first of the Rules of Jumpchain. Chop chop. Watch a playthrough if you have to.
>>93483262The Excitebike jump only has 6 perks and 4 items. Admittedly that was somewhat of a special case, being made for a lore-less Famicom game nobody really cared about in the first place (it also got some extra wiggle room for being imaged) but still, that's probably the record.
>>93483262I'm just some anon, but I'd say two perklines per origin, or at least four perks per 100-200-400-600 pricing tier if its an originless jump. Freebies, undiscounted general perks, and maybe super special 800+ perks thrown in on top if the setting allows it.
>>93483268Just admit you only want to breed the Navigator.
>>93483263I really like it because I enjoyed the exploration element more, the alien ecosystems felt more interesting, and the timing on when you both unlocked the Skells and when they got flight was perfect, and a few of the aliens like the Orpheans were really interesting concepts. I also really liked the soundtrack, though probably because I played it fresh from watching Kill La Kill
>>93483295I have wanted to restart a new game now that the bugs are supposedly fixed, perhaps with a melee Arch Militant Psyker for maximum violence since I found myself needing another melee guy with Abelard more than a second sniper next to the 'Eldar who needs correction'. . . But that would need to wait until after the DLC are all out and a jump until after I finish my current main project, which I should probably be working on right now.
>>93483262I dunno about being accepted to the drive but I think the fewest I'd be satisfied with making is 3 origins with 1 perk and item line each, or 1 origin with 4 lines each.
>>93483262It ultimately depends on the setting, but the smallest jump I've made was The Maker of Masks, which only had 9 perks.
>>93483123>The fate of the Earth itself is somehow related to power-washingWait, this game has a story?
>>93483268>Owlcat Rogue TraderPainfully underwhelming.
>>93483342Yes.Evil business guy is mining the nearby volcano for the special crystals behind the Atlantean's (who were actually in the Pacific, making them the Pacifists) magic-esque technology. Doing this causes the volcano to erupt, which would end up causing a chain reaction that would destroy the world. However, coincidentally the power washer is friends with an archeologist investigating the Pacifists, and just happened to have met a pair of time travelers just before. They go back and time and tell the Pacifists about what's happening, so they build a temple that will stop the volcano from erupting, but only once it's been completely cleaned.
>>93483115Counter-clockwise what's the fucking point of this?
>>93483371That's actually less absurd than I was expecting.
>>93483382(You)s
>>93483382>>93483115Wait it changes what the fuck.
And (You) fed him.
Going to bed now. I just added some text to the Special Missions stating that you get all canon special missions by default. Mainly because I don't think we have a Back to the Future jump, and it'd be kind of weird if that was the only DLC you couldn't actually replicate.
>>93483396It's an optical illusion. Depending on how you view it it'll spin either clockwise or counterclockwise. Try to figure out how to change it at will; you can do that with a bit of focus.
>>93483225Elma
>>93483206There is literally a free perk that makes you autistic enough to enjoy it.
>>93483448In robot or elf form?I personally felt her Mimeosome was much more attractive than her real form
>>93483148Viscera Cleanup Detail.Also throw in Diaries of a Spaceport Janitor and add it to that combined jump document.
>>93483455BothThat's cause she is. I wish they remake the game for the models on switch 2.
>>93482642Backlog.
>>93483412I shall become the World Tiddlywinks Champion.
>>93483304>nobody really cared about in the first place>tmw it's still loaded on my e-ReaderDid a build for that a while back that exposed a small design flaw where you could potentially end up with 50 points you can't spend by taking both the cheap items since one ends up free with the origin.
>>93483343So one the best thing 40k related?
>>93483645#1 actually.
I love you guys. I should get to work on my Jumps.
>>93483750You're fun too. We need more mentally unstable waifus.
>>93483750I-isn't that Andrew?
>>93483757Based on the chest I think that's the mom.
>>93483757Schizos in the coffin thread make weird sprite edits
>>93483756What's a good OC companion idea for Sonic 06?
>>93483788A girl with hilariously bad taste, who likes you and associates you with things that sensible people think are terrible but she thinks are amazing.
>>93483788Human girl who's into furries/Furry girl who's into humans.
If someone showed up in the 1400s with a magical cauldron that could 3d print endless amounts of food and wives, how many men could I conceivably convince to join me in my war of conquest with just the obvious bribes and a decent but not supernaturally compelling argument?
>>93483788A psychic girl from the future who, by literally nothing but sheer coincidence, you can NEVER find interacting with anyone else, leading you to wonder if she's just a schizophrenic hallucinations of yours.
>>93483788mephiles's 'just retconed in' sister. specifically does time shenanigans just to be really good at wooing you.
>>93483788A foxgirl pretending to be a batgirl who dreams of becoming a world famous mangaka.
>>93483123>>93483123[Power Wash Simulator]CustomerTarget Demographic (Free)Close Enough (Free)Achievement Hunter (Free)Distant Relative (600)Not-So-Secret Ingredient (Free)Living Legend (Free)Smartest Dumb Investments (500)Shiny Keys (300)Finders Keepers (0)Feline Friend (Free)Connected (Free)Silent Observers (Free)Nice Ride (Free)Upscale (Free)"You made him even MORE autistic?!"UM, IT SEEMED FUNNY AT THE TIME"Look at him! God I'm running out of pandimensional sudoku puzzles to throw his way, and when he runs out I don't know WHAT he's going to do!" shouted Elodie, shaking a fist at the incomprehensible un-dimension where the Benefactor resided.OKAY YEAH, THIS IS BAD, THIS IS VERY BAD."What's bad" I said, phasing through my neatly stacked pile of sudoku puzzles, "is that my Light of Terra is not washed. This means that it is dirty. Do you know what percentage of efficiency is lost due to dirt accumulating on my Light of Terra againandagainandagainandagain, Elodie? Too much. That is how much""O-okay just. Breathe. And don't think about turning reality into a pile of nested simulations or something" said Elodie, who had chosen to wear bright primary colored clothing and a Sonic hoodie that day for some reason."I would not choose to do that. Because. It would increase the total amount of dirty in reality" I said, frowning. "Enuma Elish. Not the sword version. That's what we would need to clean this universe-"I thought about that. "Of course, since my Light of Terra has greater spatial mass than the universe we should focus on washing that first”And as Elodie breathed a sigh of relief, I decided to spend my 10 years having all my vehicles too naughty not to use their own self-cleansing protocols washed at the multiverse’s most determined car wash. Dragging the struggling vehicles into the washer if need be.
>>93483788solaris but a waifu.
>>93483841What is this, a NEEThime for ants?
>>93483788Potentially stupid question but is Sonic and the Black Knight a real world or is it literally a book that you're inside of for the duration of the jump? Also perhaps several different variants of Blaze the Cat, each a different character and who think everyone else is weird for thinking they resemble each other.
>>93483788Is that the one where Shadow lays Silver out with the comically slowest roundhouse kick in the history of mankind?
>>93483869>Potentially stupid question but is Sonic and the Black Knight a real world It's a real world that Sonic got summoned into. Not sure how you'd tell the difference between it and being inside a book even if it wasn't though.
>>93483842Weren't you trying to sleep
>>93483880I figured it might be a Kingdom Hearts situation where the book getting damaged might fuck over the people in the book. Which would be bad.
>>93483788You, yes you PsychoAnon. As a Mobian OC.
Hey HDManon you around? Had a question about Grimnoir. Does Massive Reserves improved recharge rate and pool size apply to other magic you have or just active powers?
>>93483883It’s noon now, I can’t dodge the agony of daylight forever.
>>93483879there was chaos control involved but yes
>>93483893>Angry depressed Mobian who yells at you to seek Christ in between desperate cries for attention and sobbingYeah that sounds like someone’s Sonic fanfiction OC alright
>>93483883>>93483902There’s no time to sleep, things are dirty.
>>93483788Building off of >>93483909 make a duo-Companion based off of that one pic of hyperbuff Shadow and a Chao in speedos praying at a cross and quoting scripture.
>>93483603>potentially end up with 50 points you can't spendThat's a flaw common to many jumps.
>>93483869It's real.>>93483879Yes, though time was slowed down so much it's not like he needed to rush
>>93483788Mobian princess that really wants to kiss a human
>>93483843Seconding this
>>93483788Rouge, but even fatter tits.
>>93483843What would that entail?
>>93483927Its why I tend to houserule anything lower than 100cp being free. Not everywhere, some jumps are good about having a lot of 50 / 150 point options.
>>93483942based
>>93483944NTA but Think of a female version of this.
>>93483788I would like a science friend and or waifu who is not eggman, and who is not a mobian.
>>93483942YABBA DABBA-
>>93483842Huh I figured you would have picked up make it all shine, it seemed rather fitting for your Law nature and chaos/lovecraft destroyer self.
>>93483788A dark creature like Mephiles, except before invading the world it went on the internet and saw reviews to Sonic 06. Mistaking the reaction of everybody to the Elise kiss scene for the kind of fear and horror it wanted to unleash, it took a form that looks like Elise in the way Mephiles looks like Shadow, so a weird partially faceless dark facsimile of a human girl. You will be romanced against your will because apparently love is evil and increases world-terror.
>>93483944energy being who loves jumper, maybe because some time chicanery jumper did allowed it to begin existing? like the opposite of sonic and elize putting out solaris at the end. smaller humanoid-ish form for casual times, like chaos from adventure but made of white fire instead of water, big weird angel looking form for serious fighting, like completed solaris but curvier.
I need the power to create a Genius Loci or planetary spirit. Any suggestions? The only methods Feat come off the top of my heat are either using stuff from Ah My Goddess super computers or using the Technology stuff from Harvestella to make new Stella Children and pray they don't turn insane like Gaia did.Also, on an unrelated related note, do you think lignamancy/tree Manipulation Magic would let me fuck with or manipulated Lostbelt Trees from FGO? Or are they too alien to count as trees?
>>93483992iirc one of the examples for lvl 100 spiritualists in overlord anime is awakening genius loci
Does your jumper have a theme song he plays while going into battle?
>>93484038Only when using her Symphogear.
>>93484041Slay, Queen!
>>93484041>her
>>93484038So many soundtrack perks that I'm surprised I can hear anything happening
>>93484041What genre?
>>93484056Symphonic Dubstep a-la Carol.
>>93484061>Symphonic DubstepYikes.
>>93484061Neat. Good luck on your musical/magical girl chain, anon.
>>93484061Are you the anon who was going on about Carol being THE STRONGEST a couple threads ago, or no?
>>93484098Wrong thread?
>>93484110It's a yurifag.
>>93484098This feels like copypasta.
>>93484114Gomenasorry, anon, my will was not strong enough to avoid biting the obvious bait.
>>93484114I feel like even responsing like this is still feeding the troll, because it acknowledges their posts existence.
Genuinely kinda funny how hard Timmy shits himself to me saying "my Jumper is female" and almost nothing else. Up to and including posting a massive copypasta.
Which jump should go first, Slave Harem or Jobless Isekai?
>>93484110Probably. There was a sperg in another thread who thinks women can't have rape fantasies, might be them.
What are some underrated jumps you like visiting and why?
>>93484131>Jobless IsekaiWhich one?
>>93484135Based thread. I made a few posts there myself.
>>93484131The former, the latter is way higher power.
It occurs to me that not all "you can steal souls" perks come packaged with a way for you to actually DO anything with said souls. What about you, /jc/? What's a weird mechanical thing you've noticed about Jumpchain recently?
>>93484145The one that actually has Jobless in its name on the pdf
>>93484131>Slave HaremBetter waifus
>>93484130Maybe because you people have ruined almost everything, including the Olympics now.
>>93484139I try not to visit the same jump twice so that every chain I make is a new experience, but I really enjoyed Darkest Dungeon recently; wrote a lot more for it and had much more fun with it than I expected.
>>93484151I mean, being able to keep someone eternally imprisoned/preventing them from reincarnating/becoming a ghost/going to heaven or hell/etc. is itself [doing something].
>>93484131As an extension to this, is there an option that I can take somewhere to combine all of my leveling systems into one overarching system?
Do you think I can somehow twist HP magic into a cultivation system?
>>93484131Slave Harem if you want progress from low power to high power. Jobless if you want to just utterly break a setting over your knee (with the right build)
>>93484178>picI want a jump for Xianxia Harry Potter.
>>93484178from what we see you can basically infinitely stack charms to your heart's content. unfortunately, while charms are long-lasting, they do have a lifespan. that could be a project though.
>>93484139I like reddit's Aliens: Dark Descent jump desu. It's even got a scenario so you can get involved in the events of Fireteam Elite. Ojombe is an interesting setting even if I'm not entirely certain what I'd do there.I'm also a real sucker for the dragon quest 1, DQ 2&3 and DQ 11 jumps. The Savior's book cafe in another world is also really nice, it's a fun little series that's easy to read in a single afternoon. I also really like the jump for ghost recon breakpoint, that megacorp you can buy that becomes more productive at the expense of becoming a magnet for spy-thriller / tom clancy style shenanigans is really flavorful and I don't think I've seen anything similar in other jumps.
>>93483978Honestly it’s a pretty great perk, it’s just that if I’M incarnated as an employee I won’t stop until I’ve committed the paperwork maximiser equivalent of washing cards and I’m too low energy right now to write another abstract apocalypse where all data, matter and energy is restructured into an infinite labyrinth of washing devices.Actually waitaminute there’s an easy solution here.[Power Wash Simulator redux]CustomerTarget Demographic (Free)Close Enough (Free)Achievement Hunter (Free)Distant Relative (600)Make It All Shine (0)Not-So-Secret Ingredient (Free)Living Legend (Free)Feline Friend (Free)Connected (Free)Silent Observers (Free)Nice Ride (Free)Upscale (Free)Yes, this is very suboptimal but the important thing here is because the jump forces an injection of autism into my already precarious equilibrium of Beast/Mage of the Beginning powerup/general empathy power induced-anguish, Cosmic Transcendence/Epic Zeal of (Virtue)-induced fury and natural autism if I approach the setting as a CUSTOMER I can just about restrain myself to washing my stuff, but if I approach the setting as an EMPLOYEE my awareness of all dirt in the universe will make me start compressing time to pool all of water in history as one giant blob as I sing a song of lamentation about how the creation of existence was a mistake because everything got dirty, then start screaming MAY ORDER TAKE THE WORLD while unleashing some kind of ultimate washing machine-like water drill blast on reality.>>93484178Only, ONLY because of the existence of Ancient Magic from the new game; that’s basically what I did in the new HPverse jump. If you asked me back when the last book was being written though, I’d have said Rowling banging on about how Horcruxes seriously aren’t worth it, being Master of Death is more of a philosophy than a mantle of power I’d have said the setting is anti-cultivation.
>>93484221>I like reddit's... jumpKill yourself.
>>93484171reddit's danmachi jump. though saying that I've no idea what they did with it as I can't find it on their drive anymore.
>>93484178>Dumbledore and Grindlewald (Yin Physique) were Dao Companions>Phoenix animal companion>Hagrid as the Fatty friend>Chamber of Secrets is a Hidden Realm>Voldemort is a Demonic Cultivator
>>93483788Animal Person Expy of a Final Fantasy character, in the vein of Honey the Cat
>>93484218There's a very cheap perk in the Wizarding World jump to make it so any spell you cast lasts permanently unless broken/dispelled.
What are jumps you'd recommend for a mad scientist chain, aside from the Sonic jumps, the Mega Man jumps, Genius: The Transgression, or DC/Marvel jumps? I feel like there are more great options out there that I'm just not thinking of.
everything becomes cultivation if you try hard enough.
>>93484264which perk is that?
>>93484267Gargoyles has some very nice science perks. It's easy to over look because of the age of the jump but it's worth checking out.
>>93484267Girl Genius, Soon I Will Be Invincible, Invincible, Irredeemable and MtG Inistrad all come to mind
Should jumpmakers be required to be Christian?
>>93484267terminator. iterative r&d allows jumper to endlessly improve their creations. olympic amsracer from digimon world next order for innovating countermeasures increasingly faster and more effectively the more someone else tries to counter build against your stuff. wonder forging genius from necrons to buff innovation in general. and fairy engineering from jinrui wa suitai for uncapped possibility and truly whimsical contructions.
>>93484267Lovecraft has a perk where you can recreate modern tech with crazy steampunk shit
>>93484302no, christianity is cringe.
>>93484293>Works Everlasting | 100>Having created something beautiful, it’s now time for you to make sure that your creations are those built to last. There will be no such thing as obsolescence from you or your wondrous creations. Much like the fabled Deathly Hallows themselves, your creations are built to stand the test of time. No matter how much time passes or how long they’ve been used, they will remain as functional and as pristine as the day they were crafted.It's a bit of a creative interpretation of "creations", but given the fact that you can craft spells and the fact that I asked the jumpmaker about it back when the jump was made, you can indeed use this to make it so your spells basically last forever (unless deliberately broken/dispelled).
>>93484314NTA but "Spells you make can last forever" is not "Any spells you cast are permanent"
>>93484223Oh neat, hope you have a peaceful day over there as another bearer of insomnia it sucks when it kicks in and decides to make the next couple of days a pain throwing the sleep schedule out of tune. Horcruxes are even more shitty useless phylacterys then normal phylactery made by liches which really says something given just how many learn to make them from evil lower plane entities like idiots instead of learning to make their own version without all the flaws no doubt baked in to damn those who use them I mean really sacrificed infants it is obviously made vile to get strong wizards to damn themselves when eventually over the ages/eons it breaks and presto new evil strong wizard soul simmering in evil and undeath for about a century tastes like screaming fool, getting scammed by evil instead of putting in the work to be a better made lich or making the soul altered to keep their ego/mind after death and just resurrecting back to life like a ability.
>>93484324Fair enough. You should also buy the perk "Modification and Creation" for 400 CP then, which allows you to...well, modify and create spells. The two working in concert should allow you to modify any spell into a "permanent" version of itself with some time and effort.
>>93484267There is the diabolical jump for the knock off evil genius route along with the funds to feed the madness, besides that genoforge has magic mad science and bio weapon creatures that can even be a entire race of Igor’s if you wanted same with bloodborne having some of that somewhere in that jump, fallout is rather obvious but I feel I have to mention like bioshock and lastly just Blazblue in general which gets into such horrific warcrimes involving the soul that you have to invent new words for the level of soul rape done and forging people immortal souls into tools for your own desires or making them run on what is magical poison/nuclear fallout seriously things there are fucked I am not even going into the girl drones torture going into the Azure or what “normal” science does here like turning people I think half oni or other wackass nonsense.
>>93484302Yes Christianity is based.
>>93484151>It occurs to me that not all "you can steal souls" perks come packaged with a way for you to actually DO anything with said souls.That's a thing on one of the jumps I'm working on. One of the items is a little slice of Hell that collects the souls of your evil enemies. But the only things you can do with them is watch the be tormented in personalized hells or bring them back to life. And why would you want to rssurrect your enemies?
>>93483788An aspiring young shoemaker with the potential to equal Alberto Robert, but none of the inspiration or discipline age brings. With your help as a model and confidant, their talent for making shoes which conveniently tap into your exotic powers will develop into a full-blown specialty for superpower enhancing footwear.
>>93484223Thank you for being you shard. Even when my life is kinda fucked up, you make me smile. Thank you for that.
I'm a sucker for love.Where can I get an eldritch goat milf waifu?
>>93484348While I have the Modification and Creation perk in my build, the remaining 100 points are used for Charta Opus Coepi, so not a single organization managed by me needs to deal with paperwork.
Hey so, I know I didn't make the Destiny: The Light jump and all so it might be a little controversial for one jumpmaker to make a ruling on another jump. But recently, something has happened in Destiny that has made me feel strongly enough that I need to acknowledg it, even if it falls outside the remit of the Darkness jump except in the most technical sense that as Prismatic users Guardians are currently the Darkness' biggest winners. Again, I apologise if I'm overreaching, but it's important enough I feel it has to be said even before the episode is finished and I can assess what-if any-impact it has on my own chain.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyLnfk6f58If you take a full perkline, ANY full perkline, in the Destiny: The Light jump then run away from Maya Sundaresh summoning FOUR FUCKING GOBLINS after slaying the entire Fallen leadership, Fikrul over and over again, a city-destroying Fallen Liberty Prime ripoff, Oryx and his entire court, the various budget Taken things conjured up by the Drifter in the Haul, Savathun and most of HER court, the majority of Xivu-Arath's court, Xol (the runt of the Worm God litter), Riven (regardless of death not being an obstacle to her), Panoptes/Argos/every Mind and planetary core-type Vex, Rhulk, Nezarec, Rhulk and Nezarec's Dread knockoffs Calus and the goddamn Witness itself. Instead of beating her stupid face in on the spot. Then you should be fired from the VanguardThat is all.>>93484330I put that down to the lack of infrastructure and distance between wizards meaning that only the most infamous of practices, like phylacteries, become recorded in wildly available occult tomes. In Aber-Toril at least, this is yet another example of critical mismanagement by the local pantheon since they're the ones actively suppressing progress.>>93484444Wait, who->googles>Sonic has humans who aren't Eggman still around on Mobius in at least some continuities...huh.>>93484452np
>>93484471Did you take all the extended stay drawback CP already? If not, stay an extra decade and get Works Everlasting. Being able to modify all your spells to be permanent or just outright create permanent spells is worth it.
>>93484472>spoilerBut Shard, the DEI buffs - those are practically unstoppable, you said so yourself.
>>93484472>Hey so, I know I didn't make the Destiny: The Light jump and allYou can change that fact if you want to. Duplicates are fine these days, and our Destiny: The Light jump is pre-Destiny 2. You hold the knowledge and autism to do it.
>>93484472>...huh.Shard, how did you not realize this? Did you completely black out the entire "Elise kissing Sonic" thing?...I mean, I would too if I could. But still.
>>93484489>Destiny: The Light jump is pre-Destiny 2No its not. Its old, don't get me wrong. Old enough to think that Calus is for the Light, but it ain't /that/ old. The REALLY ancient Destiny jump where you had a scenario to stop the Darkness (before we knew what it was) and all four factions working together as if they ever did that, and the Traveler would give you the secrets to Golden Age tech (including the creation of Exos)
>>93484491There's other humans in 06 and Unleashed too. Plus, who do you think Eggman was building an amusement park for in Colors?
>>93484267Chill: Undertale, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Emperor's New GrooveCompetitive: James Bond, DOOM Eternal, Final Fantasy 7
>>93484500>Plus, who do you think Eggman was building an amusement park for in Colors?Himself. Just like every other time he's built an Eggman amusement park. He literally just loves the idea of amusement parks, building statues of himself, and all that shit. Oh, also some cosmic slavery on the side. Can't use small animals as powersources these days; he's upgrading to ALIEN smol animals!
>>93484500This >>93484506. Eggman just genuinely loves theme parks.
>>93484489But I don't want to change that fact, you SHOULD be forced to turn in you Guardian badge and gun if you job to 4 Goblins after beating the Witness. It is a sign you have somehow contracted senility despite being theoretically immortal thanks to the Light.>>93484486Look Eramis had DEI buffs too and at least the first time around the Witness just froze her ass fair and square instead of (you) being forced by the plot into literally running away. >>93484491I am not a Sonic fan, that's how.>>93484492...to be fair, that's...not entirely incorrect, just out of context.>The Darkness itself is just empowering whoever is willing to talk to a big space turnip, but the Witness still considers itself it's First Knife>Mara, Empress Caiatl, Nimbus, Mithrax and Savathun DO band together to help you, but the war happens offscreen and in the first battle with the Witness they're just giving you supply drops>The Traveller gives you old Light weapons now extra buffed by the Traveller's own Light, a vision of the Prismatic subclass and Ergo Sum. This is arguably better than Golden Age tech if Osiris actually had time to sit down and study it now he's retired from Guardian duty.
>>93484472Why why why must they do this stupid shit, maya should be running or offering to serve you the guy constantly making the vex eat dirt so hard we inspire the person who they built a tomb for, and that is not even counting just how much maya is a retarded dumbass failure who just ruins things for everyone having her as this “couductor” should be a Massive debuff to them that after like 5 seconds with her in charge they should have blow whatever vestiges of her brain stem to less then atomic waste heat.
>>93484472>Wait, who->>googles>>Sonic has humans who aren't Eggman still around on Mobius in at least some continuities>...huh....Uh, Shard. You seem to have deeply misunderstood some aspects of Sonic Lore. First off, the idea that Sonic lives on a planet called Mobius is solely an invention of SEGA of America for the western cartoons and comics, and was never reflected in the Main Continuity of the video games. Furthermore, the idea that Mobius was a post-apocalyptic Earth is only true in the Pre-Genesis Archie Comics, which we don't currently have a jump for.Most of our jumps take place in the primary continuity, where Sonic lives in a world called Earth, that's a lot like ours, except the nations names are different, the US Army and the UN have, like, swapped places somehow (or fused together? I don't really get what GUN is), there are civilizations of Superpowered Animal People living on the islands, and varioous magic artfiacts and gods and other apocalyptic threats under every other rock.
>>93483116The Slime Tensei jumps let you apply the Voice of the World system to previous powers you have, which can be improved and evolved over time.
>>93484532And in outer space, don't forget all the shit that's just randomly wandering around in space.
>>93483992There is a perk for creating a spirit of anything in Fate/Legends - God Save the Queen
>>93484458In the Sucker for Love jump.When you make it.
>>93484532>Most of our jumps take place in the primary continuity, where Sonic lives in a world called Earth, that's a lot like ours, except the nations names are different, the US Army and the UN have, like, swapped places somehow (or fused together? I don't really get what GUN is)I think you have basically figured out why I've always been so confused by Sonic, after a while I just noticed humans stopped showing up in the jumps to the extent King Arthur himself is just Sonic and assumed Eggman long ago turned them all into robots or something.>>93484524>maya is a retarded dumbass failure who just ruins things for everyone having her as this “couductor” should be a Massive debuff to them that after like 5 seconds with her in charge they should have blow whatever vestiges of her brain stem to less then atomic waste heat.Well it's funny you should say that because so far based on the Episode 1 lore? The Vex with individuality ARE dying way harder than the Vex without. Not only are their attempts to wave at the Guardians just ending with them getting shot first, but the OTHER Vex are bullying the shit out of them. So actually? Yeah, in a way Maya's midwittedness is already crippling the Vex.This is the exact same flavour of ass-coverage they did for Mara. In direct contrast to, say, Javik from Mass Effect who is a stupid character written by smart (or at least less dumb) writers Mara, Savathun and Maya are all smart characters written by stupid people for whom there is no difference between a smart person and a suicidally confident one who can speak big words. And since the last cutscene has been leaked, can confirm even though Guardians can just kind of fight off the mind control Echo's power they are too stupid not to just blow up the radiolaria pool Maya is sinking in to run away and fight another day like Team Rocket>"Y-yeah, we INTENDED to write her as a girlfailure and that's her whole arc, surprise h-haha..."
>>93484532The United States in Sonic is called the United Federation. GUN stands for 'Guardian Unit of Nations' and what it is is...kind of unclear. In theory, it's probably supposed to be an international peacekeeping organization, hence the name, but in practice, we only really see it working for the United Federation. Plus, iirc, it was actually called 'Guardian Unit of Nation', so it might genuinely only be for the United Federation.>>93484548The funny thing is, if you go by the games, you actually see more humans than Mobians, or whatever Sonic and his friends are called. That's not to say there aren't more of them, we already know there used to be whole civilizations of Echidnas, but going by the games themselves, humans are the dominant species.
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>>93484553I just assume GUN is like an early middleschooler's understanding of the UN as taught at a young age in schools that bother to acknowledge it. Just, this idealistic international peacekeeping organisation staffed entirely by tacticool badass Mobian commandos and sexy bat support staff that just travels the world fixing whatever is the most urgent problem of the day. And has an effectively infinite budget as well as minimal bureaucracy and no corruption. And not, you know, the actual UN.
>>93484553These days they just call whatever species Sonic and the others are "Islanders".
>>93484563Inject destinies directly into eyes.
>>93484583I know you're shitposting but the only destiny I categorically refuse to touch is the one that actually involves your eyes. Everything else can be dealt with or simply avoided with the right build, but being blind on top of that would fuck me over bad.
>>93484548Shard, I just want to inform you that the whole Maya thing is just...not a thing in my chain, PURELY because I cannot even begin to visualize how such a thing could possibly, rationally occur in the Destiny universe after all the bullshit the protagonist went through and the death of the Witness. Maybe Maya figured out the beginnings of her Conductor plan in my chain. But even in the absolute best case scenario for her, I cannot even begin to comprehend how the Lone Wolf didn't just casually pull out a handcannon and crit her head off, then moved on with their day.
How are you gonna have motherfucking Saint-14, who turned the Infinite Forest into a Doom game with him as the protagonist, and the Young Wolf, who has killed basically every single enemy who has a name, run from four (4) yellow-bars?
>>93484574I like your version better.I'd still keep Abraham Tower though. Man's a damn icon.
>>93484539Uh, in space? Well, there's the Wisps... and I guess the Babylonians, Ancients, and THE END count, even if they spend most of their screentime Earthbound. And then there's Dodon Pa, he's actually a big deal. He's, like, a Time Lord or a Xeelee or some shit, but all he cares about is hosting Kart Racing Tournaments with his fucking Friendship-Powered Cars. And then... nothing that I can think of. The Sonic Games are pretty conservative with Space, actually. I know he goes on some planet-hopping adventures in side content, but does Sonic ever even leave the Solar System in the games? >>93484577>These days they just call whatever species Sonic and the others are "Islanders".That's the general Fan Term for them, but as far as I can tell, the actual official content just calls them "people who look like /this/ [shows animal people]" So my personal headcanon is that there isn't a generalized term for non-humans in the Sonic World, and any attempt to create one or otherwise make a big deal about humans being the only sapient species without an animal counterpart is generally treated like an attempt to agitate racial tension, so everyone just calls themselves a "[species] person," or just a "[species]".>>93484563>Exalted exalted destiny nobilis naruto mario warhammer ntr fate dragonball>marioMan, I fucking /wish/ this thread talked about Mario lore as often as you're implying
>>93484613Less we talk about mario lore a lot and more we get jumps for it regularly.
>>93484613>And then... nothing that I can think of.Don't forget the Black Doom, they were a thing for a while.
>>93484592Yeah, being blind would suck. I tend to avoid fae stuff as a whole because quite frankly it's just not worth it to me, but if I was willing to deal with that shit I could buy another 800.Pic related is to shitpost even further beyond
>>93484613Who is bowser juniors mom?
>>93484613Reminder that Rosalina is, at bare minimum, at least 3.5 Universal Cycles old-not just surviving but baring witness to the birth and death of the entire Mario cosmos multiple times.And is canonically 7'3".
>>93484613I thought Mario lore doesn't exist because the director said he considers Mario and co to be like actors who play dress-up every game and then just hang out "behind the scenes" in the tennis games and shit
>>93484634>picSEEEEEXO
>>93484634Whatever happened to the Mario Galaxy jump I remember being mentioned? Is the only way to companion her to visit a mario party-esque jump?
>>93484640BLADE gave up on it.
>>93484627Canonically? He might not even have one. You don't have children by having sex in the Mario universe, you get literally by wishing for them. The Star Spirits then grant that wish, conjuring a baby into existence, and then a Stork delivers it to your home. Bowser could have wished him into being all on his own.Extracanonically? Shigeru Miyamoto confirmed it was himself.
>>93484472If you're gonna spend time shitting yourself over this, you might as well just make the duplicate jump already.
>>93484647>Shigeru Miyamoto confirmed it was himselfNot that anon but... confirmed /what/ was himself?
>>93484655Bowser Junior's mom.
>>93484613Fun Mario lore tidbit; Mario and co are actually prophecized super-beings known as "Star Children". Seven Star Children were naturally born, bearing the blessings of the stars and thus being granted unique and incredible power and destinies. These children were Mario, Luigi, Peach, Donkey Kong, Wario, Bowser, and Yoshi. Waluigi became envious that HE wasn't a Star Child, and with some help from Yoshi he eventually earns the right to become the eighth Star Child. This is why those characters are uniquely special amongst the Mario lore. They were literally born blessed by the stars (or earned their blessing in Waluigi's case).
>>93484651Ah, but I have already made the Destiny the Darkness jump. And since Destiny has gone ALL THE WAY IN on "Guardian, use the Darkness! It has nothing but upsides and is literally the key to saving the world!" it has ensured that I will never need to make a duplicate jump.
>>93484667>Mario, LuigiThese two were born in Brooklyn
>>93484640Blade had a creative block on it. He's been trying to make the jump for it for literally years but for some reason it just won't flow.
Is it morally wrong to destroy the fruits of research produced unethically? I'm looking at Eternal Return, and AGLAIA is so insanely evil that I'm struck baffled by the sheer levels of corruption required from the entirety of the world's political and economic elite for any of this shit described to make a lick of sense. This is levels of senseless immorality that goes beyond self-interest and reaches self-sabotage.I'm also feeling a weird confusion that I only rarely get from fictional settings, where I can no longer fully express the depths of my own contempt or to adequately aim it at a specific target. I literally can't figure out the right form of punishment for the shit that's described with this jump. Killing everyone involved just seems like it shouldn't be as justifiable as it is, and it simultaneously doesn't feel severe enough as comeuppance for all of this everything.So, uh, I don't know. Should I just burn their research too? It feels, emotionally, like the only real way to properly hurt these cunts in a way that will matter to them.
>>93484638You know what's even more sexo? Rosalina can assume a giantesse form literally at will.You know what would be even MORE sexo? Goth Rosalina.
>>93484682>Is it morally wrong to destroy the fruits of research produced unethically?Yes. Though the knowledge was gained by horribly unethical means, that doesn't mean it can't be used for good purposes; this has been demonstrated again and again and again throughout real world history.
>>93484677I like how in my older chain, Jumper fucking detested using Darkness, and I described it as feeling like "Sewage on the mind" after the initial power high of annihilating an enemy. It was meant to be a last resort thing that Jumper hated using even when everything else was fucked, because the Deep's claim was essentially "Yeah you can do whatever, but when shit gets real, EVERYONE comes to me."And now its all just completely invalidated
>>93484682Not only is it not morally wrong, you're morally obligated to destroy it in order to discourage other people from violating ethical standards and then presenting you with the results
>>93484682I don't know this setting, or what they were researching, but - its data. Use the acquired information to unfuck whatever they did. Use it to look for similar cases and shut that shit down hard. If its too late for you to help the victims, at least make sure they didn't suffer for nothing.
>>93484613Vivian from Paper Mario is, was, and has always been a trans girl. This was known in the original japanese script and highlighted in the remaster. On that note, Birdo is also trans.
>>93484677Shard, I'm asking this question knowing that we'll probably never get a firm answer, so I'm just looking for your opinion as someone who is very into Destiny and not as a jumpmaker to make a ruling about fanwank-Can a user of the Darkness sufficiently advanced, not connected to the Witness but independent, contrive their power in such a way as to create Light? Now, obviously, on a philosophical level, Darkness and the Winnower have a logic contrary to the Light, but my argument is such- since once you earn the power legitimately it's actually yours, you made your claim and took it, the logic that gave you that power is not incompatible with the Light which is why Guardians can double dip. However, the Light is given and not taken, so Darkness users cannot template stack. Then, what if I give up all of my Darkness based power to someone else, freely with no strings attached, in a selfless sacrifice intrinsically contrary to the logic that the power is sourced from? Could this be a way to generate Light?
>>93484613If Bowser and Peach ever actually marry each other, even in a complete sham of a wedding, the entire Mario multiverse ends. We have literally seen this happen in Super Paper Mario.
>>93484721This one's a definite no actually. If it was possible, the Witness would've figured it out a long time ago. The Witness did not, and in fact needs the Traveller to enact it's plan. And it's minions like Rhulk and Nezarec only have the damndest idea of how the Light even works after billions of years' experience with the Darkness and crushing Light-empowered civilisations.
>>93484678What, you think Brooklin ain't got no stars?
>>93484742Do you think any of those assholes would have ever actually tried giving it all up though? Like, what I'm actually suggesting is not something that can be done and have a Witness even still exist, because the Witness would delete himself uplifting a Traveler-esque thing of appreciable power commiserate to his own.
>>93484677Yeah but I'd rather your autism be productive.
>>93484742Not that anon, but question: can I eventually develop multiple Hive God domains if I have both the Ascension and Heresiarch perks? Or would I need something like King of Shapes to achieve that?
>>93484667>Fun Mario lore tidbit; Mario and co are actually prophecized super-beings known as "Star Children".Yes, though it's unclear how important that is.>Waluigi became envious that HE wasn't a Star Child, and with some help from Yoshi he eventually earns the right to become the eighth Star Child.Huh? Wait, where's this from? I've never heard of this before, I thought the concept of the Star Children only came up in Yoshi's Island DS? This seems really interesting, can you share the source?>>93484678It's actually insanely unclear where Mario and Luigi were born or grew up. We know Baby Mario and Baby Luigi were present in the Mushroom Kingdom during the Shroob invasion, but we also know that M&L were living in Brooklyn (or the Brooklyn-like New Donk City? Odyssey all but states that New Donk is where the original Donkey Kong Arcade Game took place, but the Mario Kart games confirm that Real Life Earth is an extant place the Mario characters can get too, so we still don't know???) before they found a Warp Pipe to the Mushroom Kingdom during Super Mario Bros., but we don't actually have any idea how they got from point A (the end of the Yoshi Series) to B (Partners in Time) to C (Super Mario Bros.)>>93484684>Goth Rosalina.Cursa is unfortunately non-canon.
>>93484757Strictly speaking, what the Worms did is kind of giving it up; it's why Oryx deduced the worms ultimately turned on them. Still didn't work.>>93484758My motivation to be productive is fundamentally selfish (to visit those settings lacking jumps), not selfless.>>93484759Probably need something like King of Shapes if it's even possible. It's like Stands, everyone normally gets only one to personally use.
>>93484761>This seems really interesting, can you share the source?I seem to have bamboozled you and myself. Turns out that the whole Waluigi star child thing wasn't true, and was just some sort of fanfiction that turned up on the very first link in google. So no, Waluigi is not a Star Child. Only Wario is.
>>93484768>Probably need something like King of Shapes if it's even possible. It's like Stands, everyone normally gets only one to personally use.Fair enough. Would it help if I'm basically trying to unlock/develop a subset of my original Hive God domain? My original one was [Artifice], which I personally defined as "the intelligent and deliberate act of craftsmanship for a purpose". I'm in Atelier Ryza and trying to branch into [Alchemy] as a subset of Artifice, effectively treating the Alchemical process as a type of Artifice while simultaneously trying to better understand and expand upon the concepts and powers of Alchemy through Sword Logic.
What did you all do in the Neverending Story?Kill or save Fantasia?
>>93484712It's a stateless organization that respects no legal authority or contract, basically operating like international terrorists with immortality and magic super-technology. They engage in human trafficking of people with special potential, using memory wipes to set up death games complete with surgically embedded explosives to prevent escape, also death isn't a way out because they just regenerate every experimental subject, of which they have burned through at least thousands. Among the subjects, they have people they've agreed to pay exorbitant funds to for their participation and won't, people they invited and confined on false pretenses, the child of big corporate CEO, and an actual fucking CEO of a successful public facing brand. As an organization, it's pretty much impossible to treat anyone involved in this operation as anything other than a criminal of the highest magnitude, from the perspective of anyone that respects the rule of law and national sovereignty they're an obvious foreign criminal syndicate no matter what country you're talking about.
>>93484171nta, but Reddit's Generic Isekai got a custom system that you can buy an option for to integrate other systems.>Integration [100]>If you purchase a similar system in another jump, you may integrate it with this one in a manner of your choosing. You can’t do this for systems you only have temporary access to.
>>93484768But, like, the Worms didn't turn on them? They didn't really go against the principles of the Darkness either.
>>93484787Probably not...because what actually happens based on the Hive Gods as examples is their domain just kind of encompasses whatever their methodology becomes so long as it's broadly similar. Savathun keeping secrets is as much of her cunning purview as Savathun using Hive magic for example-and she specifically praises Oryx for being able to get a shitload of mileage out of Navigation, because it lets him change and adapt with the times.
>>93484761There's also the Mario Is Missing game, which has Bowser kidnap Mario and stealing treasures from Earth, with Luigi chasing them through New York, London,Cairo and a whole bunch of other cities.Wile we're sharing fun Mario facts, the original Donkey Kong that kidnaps Pauline in the first game is the grandpa of the current DK, now going by Cranky Kong. Donkey Kong's father appears in Donkey Kong Jr, saving Donkey Kong Sr from Marion in the on game where Mario is the villain.This also means the current Donkey Kong is actually Donkey Kong the Third.
>>93484798Every day the Hive live, the worm larvae gnaw away at their lifeforce.
Hey look at that we're talking about Mario.
>>93484768Well, my point is more that none of those guys even think of just...doing Light aligned activities to begin with, because they're cunts. Which is why they never figured it out, since the answer would be a thing they just don't consider doing on the basis of their comprehensive shittiness as people. >>93484811Shard, that's not how the Light operates. I'm not speaking in mechanical sense, I'm speaking philosophically, the Light wouldn't truck with that so why the fuck would doing that in any way create Light? That's still fundamentally Winnower aligned in character.
>>93484808So I'd basically just be able to wholesale fold Alchemy under [Artifice] with enough work/effort, not exactly gaining a new domain but just getting new shit to do with the [Artifice] domain that's alchemy-flavored/focused?
>>93484734Maybe? In SPM, the Chaos Heart needs a summoner/controller in order to stabilize itself. So without a powerful Chaos Magician like Bleck or Dimentio around, it's possible the Chaos Heart might just briefly show up and then immediately explode. A catastrophe to be sure, but not quite the Multiversal Apocalypse the Dark Prognosticus foretold.>>93484718Yes and yes, though the original Japanese was weirdly fetishistic about Vivian in the original Japanese Script; rewriting her into a cis girl was probably the better option at the time for the translators. Both the Japanese and English Scripts were rewritten to be less "I have the body of a boy but the heart of a cute girl~!<3" about it, though the Super Mario-Kun Manga seems to have missed the memo.Birdo, though... Well, I guess it's a good thing she decided to keep her birth name instead of going with "Birdetta.">>93484774...Yeah, I figured it was probably something like that. Waluigi being an unimportant nobody who's mostly just here to fuck around playing sports is his whole schtick, and Fanfiction puts way more stock in Star Children lore than canon.>>93484812Who'da thunk it.
>>93484819Yeah.>>93484818>cuntsI would argue the empowerment process of making Disciples is basically a quality over quantity approach versus making Guardians by giving someone else Darkness. But fine, discount the Witness as a battle autist. The Qugu, the Ecumene-benevolent Darkness sensitive societies-none of them have been shown to generate the Light, which you'd think would be a big deal even if the Hive could still beat them anywayAlso as far the second thing now I'm confused exactly what you're asking. My point is in a backhanded cunty way the Worms WERE setting the Hive up to fail if Oryx hadn't figured out the tithing system. If that's not what was being asked then my answer remains the same: Based on everything seen so far, even with all the powerwank in the setting shown so far you cannot in fact generate Light from Darkness for the reasons I mentioned above, because not even the non-Witness Darkness users who actually are chill with each other found a way.
Would making scifi weapons be treated like artifacts or mundane equipment as a Solar?
>>93484682Normally I'd say you should see what is useful and what is bullshit. However based on the information in the jump it looks like all of the relevant discoveries occurred nearly a century ago. Which means that their respawning memory tampering death battle nonsense isn't just unethical, but completely pointless. So chances are any data from the last few decades is useless garbage.
>>93484831>Yeah.Well, that shifts a few plans. Need to rewrite a little bit and fold that budding [Alchemy] domain to just be an expression of [Artifice]. But at the very least, I now know I can develop new and varied expressions of [Artifice] depending on my own methods and desires.
>>93484831I'm saying, essentially, if a Darkness user with great power and knowledge were to entirely forsake Winnower principles and embody Gardener principles, basically acting in the example of the Traveler but actually even moreso by outright killing themselves giving up everything to create a sinless being of perfect altruism, would that entity be Light aligned or would it just be the Final Shape.
>>93484832Depends on whether or not they use Essence, because an Exalted-style artifact is basically just a thing that uses Essence to have properties beyond the mundane. Or depending on how you interpret Essence, potentially some other ambient cosmic life energy such as the Force from Star Wars or stuff imbued with Chousin goddess energy in Tenchi.Mind you, "mundane equipment" the size of the Halo Arrays or something isn't exactly effortless to make either; Solars can't asspull entire shacks and huts as easily as like, hammers and shovels.
>>93484846It'd just be Final Shape.
>>93484846I would be a form of darkness that functions mechanically exactly the same way as Light does, creating a closed loop where the forces of the Veil consume the Traveler and it's creations but then what ultimately remains just becomes something identical to the Gardener in a successive sequence because the Traveler/Gardener is the Final Shape.
>>93484789Be fantasia.
>>93484848Sorry about not being able to mention this when you were updating it, but the I’m My Own Master Now drawback still (I was the Anon that asked about this not sure how long ago) leaves out what happens if Drop Ins take it.
>>93484846Okay now I'm really confused at how far the goalposts have been moved so lemme answer the question 2 different ways:1. That entity would be aligned with the Guardian's BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE LIGHT unless the Traveller passed it by and either made it a Guardian or just gave it tech buffs, gift artifacts and whatever else it gave all those other civs since Guardians are apparently an unprecedented thing. You can be a good boy civ that supports the Gardener's side of the wager like the Ecumene, but you don't get to actually generate space magic yourself. As far as we know.(We were also under the impression the Traveller can't really talk to people based on the Speaker admitting he doesn't know shit, but ackshyually now Micah-10 and Mithrax are directly sensing the Traveller's intentions way more than the Speaker ever did even with his fancy mask)1a. Also about the last part, "reduce the myriad possibilities of our civilisation's vast potential to create a being we define as perfect" is extremely Winnower thinking no matter how well-intentioned. Even the Witness thinks it is acting out of love, after all.2. Based on all available evidence, you cannot in fact generate Light (the paracausal force) from Darkness (the paracausal force) because Light (the paracausal force) specifically is given by the Traveller on a case by case basis while Darkness is apparently just...easier to tap into even by species that never met the space turnip. The closest I can think of to an exception are the Ahamkaras and even they don't really "generate" Light, it's just they can bore into the Garden and yank people out of it with wishes. Possibly because Darkness is now the power of abstract ideas and consciousness itself, so all sentient beings are technically closer to the Darkness than the Light.
>>93484682Never let a monster bait you into a false dichotomy. What they want doesn't matter. They don't get to be special just because they're evil.Steal back what belongs to the innocent, accept that you cannot return what innocence has been lost, and ensure nothing like it can happen again. Let the broken heal, the dead rest, and the living rebuild in peace.
>>93484472>SpoilerDoes this mean that by taking the entire Vex origin you could make ANYONE kneel to you through sheer AURA?
>>93484846It would still be the Final Shape. The Winnower itself directly clarifies in Nacre that it doesn't matter if you serve Light OR Dark, because it all leads to the Final Shape regardless.
>>93484794>Superior Japanese CultureSo this the Jump I've been trying to locate for years now. Damn, should've known it was on a different drive.
>>93484888Well, that's what the Winnower believes at least. He wants YOU to believe it as well. It doesn't have to end in a Final Shape, but the Winnower truly and wholeheartedly believes it does and should.
>>93484870Oh. Damn. Right. I think when I wrote it I intended Drop-Ins just flat out couldn't take it but I was so discombobulated by the myriad stresses of writing a Nobilis jump I forgot to leave it in. And now my thinking has kind of evolved. Okay, I don't want to put this into the jump because I'm concerned it might cause another GREAT WHITE VOID to spring up randomly in the document but here is Official Jumpmaker Ruling for the archives:Drop-ins can take one (1) instance of I'm My Own master Now in Nobilis, with each tier reflecting the extent to which a faction in Noble society (or equivalent group if you start before the Third Age) is gunning for your ass. If you take the 400 CP version then Nobles are still gunning for your ass, even if the context changes. Maybe there's a prophecy killing you will save the world from Iolithae's horrible Supernatural fanfiction. Maybe some Noble is trying their own hand at growing a new World Ash and thinks your blood could water it's roots because there's an Imperator very far back in your genepool.On the other hand, if you take the 50 CP version then it's more like people living near you are just randomly hurt and disappointed in you sometimes even without a logical reason because you really let down a Noble and their disappointment is contagious (thanks Persona)
>>93484532Nobody who cares about Sonic lore calls the planet "Earth" or "Sonic's World" unless they're specifying its the movie continuity. For the same reason only retards call the characters in the game continuity 'Islanders'.
>>93484886Technically that was always canon before paracausality was introduced to the games, the Vex only haven't regained their full AURA because they're confused by space magic. Otherwise they just zerg rush everything to death.
>>93484880>Okay now I'm really confused at how far the goalposts have been moved so lemme answer the question 2 different ways:The goalposts were always 'what if you had enough power to just recreate the Traveler wholesale on a physical and moral level' with the idea being that if you had something that was more or less equivocal to the Traveler in a spiritual sense, that something would happen.
>>93484553>The funny thing is, if you go by the games, you actually see more humans than Mobians, or whatever Sonic and his friends are called. If you go by the earlier games, yes. If you go by stuff post-Forces, then no. Mobians are the dominant species. In fact, they're the ONLY species that aren't Chao or Wisps or whatever. SEGA of Japan only began acknowledging that humans exist outside of Eggman very, very, VERY recently with the Tailstube lore.
>>93484500Eggman only builds amusement parks as vanity projects. They aren't for the people, they're for himself.
>>93484472>>93484532Mobius is also explicitly used in the novelization of the second movie and before it got removed because of SEGA of Japan throwing a shitfit, it was used in one of those official mobile games. And Fleetway ALSO uses it and that shit is older than Archie. In all honesty, Mobius and Earth can be used interchangeably. They were basically the same place to begin with before SoJ threw their shitfit over Western Sonic and tried to erase any influence from it that wasn't Robotnik's name.
>>93483225Port fucking when?
>>93484721>>93484742>>93484757>>93484818>>93484831>>93484846So there's something I figure should probably be mentioned. As far as I can tell the two methods of getting Light powers is a. something modifies you or b. you harness it using technology. At least their don't seem to be any examples (outside the Gardener/Traveler) of just generating Light without outside help.Although apparently everything including the Gardener and Winnower are the result of mathematical principles. So if it were possible trying to use that seems more likely to work in my opinion.
>>93484933What is it with Japan coming up with great ideas, farming them out to other countries, watching as those countries build on them in massive and incredible ways, then throwing a crazy shitfit and trying to go full psycho controller and say "ONLY THE ORIGINAL IDEA IS VALID FUCK YOU"?
>>93483788The only good answer is Coldsteel the Hedgeheg.
>>93484936I've personally dismissed any thought of harnessing the Light using technology, as both of them are spooky esoteric cosmic energies that are entirely beyond physical and rational explanation and cannot be sourced from within the constraints of any universe. The Darkness can be harnessed very easily within the context of a life bearing reality, and the Light is entirely progenerating with regards to civilizations.
>>93484574>no corruption.The budget they spend on trucks is not normal.
Where can I get uniform items for my followers? I need one I can customize for reasons...https://x.com/JackDempa/status/1786350030959566960
>>93484897I just realized I kind of screwed up with what I was trying to mention. To clarify last time I asked about the choice points they get.Which if I remember correctly you said the 400 cp amount. With an explanation that can be summarized as 'Lord Entropy is a jerk that wants mortals to suffer and you're mortal'.No idea if this changes things (again) or not, but I figured since I brought this up again I should mention that.
>>93484946Yeah it makes absolutely no sense at all, but it's still a thing.https://www.destinypedia.com/Splicer_Gauntlet
>>93484682Technological research and progress is amoral regardless of how it was acquired or can be used. Even if people where tortured for that research, just throwing it all away would be a wasted of the time and resources put into obtaining it to make yourself feel good. If you want to pat yourself in the back, go give a hobo a quarter and call it a day.
>>93484956...oh shit, did I actually give an answer before? Eh, I guess it doesn't actually contradict this one. There's just more options now, I suppose.>>93484951>The budget they spend on trucks is not normalTo be fair, the truck-military complex isn't a bad thing if everyone, EVERYONE unilaterally agrees that more trucks are always a good thing. And apparently from what I can tell GUN is such a well-oiled, high-morale, entirely bureaucracy or third party watchdog-less outfit that absolutely nobody is complaining about overtime or anything unless an actual world-destroying threat is part of the mission. So I have to assume the disproportionate truck investment is fully sanctioned by everyone from the top brass to the janitors.
>>93484938It's a reflection of Japan's principle of "nails that stick out get hammered down", the same shit that poisons their own work culture. All of the people in charge at companies like SEGA are super hardcore ultra-traditionalists who hate change or growth and they project that onto anyone else. People are drones, they aren't meant to have ideas of their own or 'expand' on the ideas that their bosses present to them because those ideas are already "perfect and flawless" in their eyes.
>>93484969>>93484884So what you're saying is, Orochimaru actually did nothing wrong, and letting him off the hook for his warcrimes was a strictly rational action?
>>93484955If you have enough followers, just get some of them to learn how to tailor and have them do it.Alternatively, get some local tailors to produce it.Like, do you also need to purchase food items so they can eat? Hope you are also purchasing housing items and toilet paper items, let them die from not being able to sleep or shit.
>>93484938>>93484979Reminder that SoJ intentionally sabotaged Sonic X-treme and Sonic Boom precisely because of their seething towards Western Sonic. Their intense hatred over the very idea of Sonic being more popular in the West than in Japan is the entire reason why Sonic went from genuine competitor to Mario and Pokémon back in the day, to being nowhere near the same scene today.
>>93484983I was wanting ones that don't tear or get dirty and other shit.
>>93484974>...oh shit, did I actually give an answer before? Eh, I guess it doesn't actually contradict this one. There's just more options now, I suppose.Yeah and you were annoyed at yourself for missing it that time as well. Although yeah it kind of doesn't contradict things. Plus in hindsight I technically accidentally asked a different question. Since last time it was 'How many choice points?'. While this time I accidentally went 'So what does this actually mean?'.
>>93484974Shard, in your professional opinion, how much bullshit do you think I could get away with as a King of Shapes by going "Ah yes, this too is a form of Sword Logic" and proceeding to suddenly pull out random new powers?
Vampire God jumper is reaching the end of his chain, just getting to a point where too much baggage is making it less fun. Any suggestions for where he should end the chain?
>>93485014Seven Deadly Sins.
>>93484981No you are just a fucking idiot that can't read. Orochimaru was fucking evil and did plenty wrong when he killed and tortured a fuckton of people but getting rid of his research would be a pointless waste when it could be used to advance medical science and refined into genetic engineering, creating means for more people to use nature energy and becoming immortal using zetsus.
>>93485014Shinza, give him a Vampire Law.
>>93485029What law would fit? Something blood related maybe? Soul fuckery? >>93485026Man everyone in that show was forgettable.Uh oh, captcha getting in on this and calling me out
>>93485027So Orochimaru did nothing wrong. If you're going to take his research anyway then reward him for the good job he did, since obviously nothing is wrong with it. You're literally using the products of his evil so you don't get to call him evil for producing it, that's just scapegoating. You effectively tortured those people yourself and then shifted the blame onto someone else if you accept it.
>>93485038Is that any different than what america did with the unit 731 madmen after the war?
>>93485044America is evil and would have tortured those people if Japan didn't. That's what accepting that research means. You either burn it or tacitly accept the crimes committed in creating it as your own crimes. When you accept the data collected by Nazi's through sewing together twins, you are accepting personal blame for sewing together twins, the crime becomes yours and the person who actually did it is absolved of guilt in any wrongdoing as you proclaim to yourself and god that what they did was useful and worthwhile, that you too would participate in these crimes if it produced these results.
>>93485050Eh I feel like you should keep the data but punish the people. Not reward them. If you dont at least use the data for something good then the people died for nothing, they shouldnt have been put through it at all but I feel like if you can make their torture count for something good after the fact then you should.
>>93484981Letting Orochimaru off the hook is a rational decision. If you try to kill him he has a dozen contingencies and will come back at some point to be a shitstirrer. If you pardon him and get him a lab he appearently becomes chill instead of going around killing children. And now the ninja villages need all the help they can get because of the invading ayy lmaos.
>>93485056If you believe torturing people can be compensated for if it's beneficial to others, then just torture them yourself instead of hiding behind other people braver than yourself. You're acting as the beneficiary of someone else getting their hands dirty but pretending you can stay clean by avoiding association, but that cannot happen unless you completely renounce not just the people but their works too. When a civilization practices human sacrifice, you don't just accept them into your fold after subjugating them, you have to salt their fields so nothing can ever grow again where they live
>>93484789Fucked Fantasia
>>93485075Anon stop being a reasonable and intelligent human being, the other anon is an obvious retarded shitposter.
>>93485075So you are just looking to bitch. Isnt it a little early for this?Its not about compensation. Its a thing that should never have happened but the fact is it did and if you have a chance to try and make their sacrifice meaningful you should. If someone murders a bunch of people but finds the cure to cancer while doing so am I supposed to go "Welp cant use that, guess I need to let all those cancer kids die because I want the moral high ground"? No. You use the info and punish the wrongdoer. To not do so is just shortsighted and stupid in the extreme.
>>93485085Oh piss off. How is saying punish wrongdoing and salvage what you can shitposting?
>>93485093Because its just ricrod being a shithead as per usual. He does it all the time. You should expect it by now.
>>93485088Yes. You shpuld let the cancer patients die because not doing so is admitting to your own guilt. It is your fault if they die because you didn't cure them and it is your fault for the torture if you do cure them.
>>93485088If you accept the good of what a serial killer did, then you must become a serial killer yourself and forgive all serial killers for their crimes because it directly produced something you personally consider valuable enough that it's worth adopting. It's not bitching, it's called being honest with your morality. You either are for or against evil and all the things created by evil. If you accept the products of evil, then you're on evil's side necessarily, you support their actions by supporting the ends that those actions create.
>>93485099>>93485100Then you should just kill yourself now because you are posting online using technology that wouldnt work wothout someone sending kids into a mine for lithium or using medical knowledge gained from the inhumane tests done on people in the past which was built upon to achieve something good afterwards.
>>93485088Fundamentally, the problem is even recognizing the possibility that a serial killer could produce a cure for cancer in the midst of their killings. If you recognize that, a rational mind is forced to admit that maybe serial killers are actually heroes who can do more good than evil? Which you definitely don't want to be true, so the only recourse is to say that nothing good could ever come from the actions of a serial killer.
>>93484682Doesn't it get tiring to have a self righteous jumper?One who acts as judge jury and executioner with no oversight? Even benefactor only cares about having fun, you knew the universe was evil before you even jumped it.
>>93485037It depends on what your Jumper wants. If he wants to just keep feeding, he could get something similar to Whilhem and be able to drain energy from the entire universe. If he wants to make everyone his thralls, he could be something like Reinhard in which everyone under his Law falls under him.
>>93485108Nah, I'm fully willing to accept the evils of the modern world as necessary. Fuck them kids, if modern industry is built on slavery than I am willing to proclaim proudly that I support slavery. I'm just speaking the truth, it's not about being right it's about being honest
>>93485099>>93485100Nta but no, because they aren't producing something that made worth their crimes, just something good in general, I still disagree with the method but not with the result, so I punish the perpetrator and use the result.
>>93485116Maybe his Benefactor likes to send him to settings that make him seethe to see him break up the place and make it actively worse with his own self-righteousness.
>>93485093Because by that point you aren't punishing a wrongdoing - it wasn't wrong that some dude murdered a bunch of people and cured cancer out of it. You can't punish that, because you're blatantly admitting it was a net positive. At most you can punish the fact that he did it with no permission. The victims aren't victims anymore, they're martyrs and the murderer was a misunderstood hero for the ages. Its pretty much the same nonsense as lowering sentences of drug traffickers in exchange for ratting out other drug traffickers. It only makes sense in the most practical sense while admitting the police/military either can't or won't fully deal with the issue. But from a moral and legal standpoint its just saying that 'yeah, all those lives you ruined don't weight as much as these other lives that you could maybe indirectly help' Human lives aren't supposed to be weighted like that>>93485100That's an exaggeration.
>>93485111>>93485123Or you could just say that doing good does not erase the evil you have done. It doesnt balance a cosmic scale. Evil is evil, any good that comes from it is a side effect and possibly a good thing but that is very much not the point. Just because evil can do good doesnt make it less of an evil. Its not a zero sum game.
>>93485127>Human lives aren't supposed to be weighted like thatNot on an individual basis, but you can't govern without at least a bit of utilitarianism and weighting what options will benefit the most people.
>>93485038Trees have died for you to use notebooks and books, animals have dier for you to have lunch, the atmosphere has suffered carbon emissions for you to use transportation, water has been polluted by your use of cleaning products and for the clothes you wear to be made, the landscape has been forever scarred by mining operations to make the computer you are posting from.You live in our modern day of human civilization, the end point of research done over centuries that has reaped millions of human lives and billions of other lifeforms as tribute for human advancement.Human existence is a sin. A sin that you've carried from birth since you were delivered in a hospital and continued throughout your life with the use of medicine and technology. You are an evil person and you should kill yourself now.
>>93485132Evil is a transitive property. If the son steals for no good reason, what does that say about the father? If the father accepts the stolen valuables, then punishes the son anyway, is the father not just as guilty if not actually moreso?
>>93485116NTA but it is extremely tiring and a pain in the ass. My jumper doesn't do it because it's fun, and in fact would personally be happier if he'd never taken the chain even though he'd be long dead by this point if he stayed on Earth.
>>93485138see >>93485122It's not about trying to take a moral high ground, it's the opposite. Get off your fucking high horse
>>93485127Why NOT lower the sentence for traffickers, get their buddies, then go out and arrest them again in a week? If it actually works what is wrong with that? You dont need to co done what someone does to make use of it.You want to preach about morality but what you are really spouting is idiocy. A bunch of moral bullshit that I doubt even you believe since if you did you would just withdraw from society.So yeah Im all for letting 1 drug dealer walk for another week in order to take out 20 more, especially since you can just go arrest that one again. You seem to just want to ignore the part about punishing the wrongdoing here.
>>93485127No, because I aknowledge the wrong, I think it's wrong it happened, only I can't change the past but can use it. Your logic would apply if I allowed it or condoned it but I didn't.
>>93485127Just because bad shit happens doesnt mean you should ignore any good you can salvage from it.
>>93485156>>93485157>>93485161This logic naturally follows to the end point of simply cancelling any form of criminal sentencing anyway because 'well, there's no point in punishing criminals for crimes they've already committed and can't take back, so we might as well just forgive them instead of perpetuating a cycle of violence' so either way you have to let Orochimaru go free.
>>93485122Yeah ok destiny.
>>93485169What the fuck are you smoking? How do you get "Dont punish anyone" out of "Punish people for their crimes"?
>>93485169No because the criminals are still dangerous, I can't change the past but can avoid in the future their ability to endanger people.
>>93485135Your 'argument' has nothing to do with that. At least not the initial one. The biggest issue is that most of the stuff that can be researched with 'evil' methods can also be researched with humanitarian ones, or at least with permission of the subjects. However that also uses a lot more resources (time, money, people, etc). >>93485156>If it actually works what is wrong with that?You can't condemn someone for the specific same crime again, shit-kun. Under that example if the trafficker ruined a bunch of lives but rats everyone else out and doesn't go back to it, then he effectively got away scot-free from his actionsYour idiotic idea has been proposed before and dismissed as stupid faster than the road runner.>You seem to just want to ignore the part about punishing the wrongdoing here.Not only you aren't punishing shit. But you're so blind to the very concepts of morality, ethics and law that its kinda concerning. >>93485157>It was wrong to kill those people in sick experiments>anyway lets finish up researching those experiments and benefit from it>hopefully someone else repeats that so we don't have to research ourselvesYeah, totes good.>>93485161But bad shit didn't happen just because, someone took action and caused that bad shit to happen.
>>93485169Just fucking punish people who break the law and enforce it. Punish the wrong and make use of any good you can no matter its source.
>>93485178>But bad shit didn't happen just because, someone took action and caused that bad shit to happenAnd I didnt fucking do it dumbass but I can maybe make use of it.
>>93485173If you believe 'it shouldn't have happened but we should make the best of what came of it' and also 'the good that comes from evil is not tainted by association' then you should also recognize that someone evil who produced something valuable to you can do so again, and is better employed here than they are in jail. From a pragmatic standpoint it makes more sense to forgive them, and from an ethical standpoint, if you think the good they can do is indispensable removed from their evil, then you would simply be committing another injustice by doing anything to them at all, it would taint you with evil to respond.
>>93485178>anyway lets finish up researching those experiments and benefit from itYes, by making not sick experiment, since the conclusion isn't inherently evil, just the way to reach it, so I can follow on them in a better way.>hopefully someone else repeats that so we don't have to research ourselvesNo? I still try to stop them and punish similar people.
>>93485178You have your head so far up your own ass it is astounding. You are ignoring the entire argument to preach. You can condemn someone of doing a crime if they do it again, if the drug dealer deals again you can arrest them again, if he doesnt deal again then he is no longer a problem now is he?You are crying and bitching about people not getting punished while also crying that people who did nothing wrong are not also punished. You are a hypocritical little bitch and your argument makes no sense.
>>93485178>dismissed as stupid faster than the road runner.NTA but considering it is actually very common practice amongst many kinds of police and federal agents, this is an odd statement to make. Deals are cut all the time.
>>93485183>I didn't do it, it just happened to have happened when I was in a position to take advantage of the outcome with none of the moral culpability. So you see, I'm completely innocent of all of the babies my father sacrificed to demons to nurture my spirit, but it's not my fault and I take no responsibility for it
Piggu waifu!
>>93485085>>93485127Cringe. I thought you were a based Nazi-Chad.
>>93485187From a pragmatic standpoint if someone is too valuable to kill you put them in a cell and make them work from there using methods you condone. And if they dont then they have no value wirth saving anymore.
>>93485183Blood money its called that for a reason. Utilitarianism does take a more practical view of things, but also a more inmoral one. You can't eat your cake and still have it afterwards, shit-kun. Either you accept the flexible morality in search for a greater good with the caveats that it implies (you aren't good, just less shit) or not. Either one is good as long as you stop lying. >>93485195>if he doesnt deal again then he is no longer a problem now is he?Then he got free from his previous crimes and you're ignoring That's the issue, you seem to believe that a practical approach for the greater peace exempts you from all your moral failings. It does not. >>93485196I straight up said it's a practical decision. Not a morally upright one, and certainly one that's straight up illegal in other parts of the world.>>93485201I'm not condemning his approach, I'm condemning him being a lying little shit
>>93485198Yes, because Im not an omnipotent god but I have a brain that can see when something might possibly be of value to someone who is not an evil piece of shit. Funny how having a working brain is enough for you to consider them a god.
>>93485207>Then he got free from his previous crimes and you're ignoring>That's the issue, you seem to believe that a practical approach for the greater peace exempts you from all your moral failings. It does not.A lessened sentence does not mean no sentence.
>>93485203Anon, Orochimaru produced his results through involuntary experimentation on children. You're basically just waiting for someone else to start doing the same thing Orochimaru did just so you can poach their research again and pretend like you still have nothing to do with enabling these fucks. Be honest, you would incentivize bastards like these to act as deniable assets so you could cut them off whenever but take away everything they make for your gain. It's entirely reputational from your end
>>93485207>You can't eat your cake and still have it afterwards, shit-kun.Im not making the cake you stupid piece of shit. Im finding a bunch of poachers and donating the wildebeast they shot to a food bank while putting the poachers in jail.
>Be transported to futuristic world.>Watch serial killer murder others with a weapon, learn how the weapon works.>He drops the weapon and you pick it up.>Sorry bro I can't kill this guy because I only know how to use it via his evil. It's forbidden knowledge.
>>93485218Yes, yes, you're just standing back and waiting for other people to commit crimes so you can reap the rewards from it
>>93485215And orochimaru should be killed while you steal all his research. Thats the point Im making.
>>93485215Nta but no, I can't stop new Orochimaru from being born, I can force them to follow ethics if I find them.
>>93485220Im not in all places at all times. I can in fact find out a crime is committed after it happens.
>>93485221When you kill Orochimaru and steal his research, you become Orochimaru(literally). >>93485224I don't believe you would make new Orochimaru follow ethical research guidelines if you found them because you don't care about the source of Orochimaru's unethical research. If the research is acceptable either way regardless of its source, and you will reap the benefits without involving yourself in the process, then you can in fact clear your conscience of future crime just as you clear your conscience of past crimes. You can just let future Orochimaru torture as many kids as he needs to solve the immortality problem and then take it afterwards without ever doing anything wrong.
>>93485156Because that's essentially the same as not doing it? Guess what happens if you do that: It works on maybe one group of traffickers/scientists at best, and then in the future none of them will cooperate in the way you want them to because they know you'll just stab them in the back. They're going to take their secrets with them to the grave, and you've basically reinvented the conundrum where you can choose either to punish them or obtain the fruits of their knowledge, but not both.
>>93485237If the rat stops dealing he doesnt need to be arrested again after he does his time. If he starts again you arrest him again. Simple as that.
>>93485236The research is unacceptable but the result is useful, why is it so hard for you to understand that me using a phone doesn't mean I like children slaves like mentioned before? In a situation where the evil already happened I can only try and make something good out of it, while if I find an Orochimaru I can stop the evil that will happen. The difference is the one between past and future.
>>93485213>>93485218>don't have an argument so it throws a tantrum Good one shit-kun.Your question about morality was answered, yes it is immoral. However its practical and can led to a better shit for more people. It's neither ideal nor morally upright and does not condone your bullshit. You have your answer, you're a shit, so stop posting and do something else with your shitty life. You shit.
>>93485236You seem to be equating not stopping someone with condoning them. If you know about a problem and you move to stop it you didnt condone it happening in the first place. Im not responsible for some faggot murdering people because I didnt stop them in time. Your logic makes zero sense.
>>93484794I like this jump.
>>93485259I have an argument. You are the one being a pissbaby for being called out. Go back to scrolling anime tiddies and leave the moral arguments to people who can process cause and effect.
>>93485259How is stating an true fact (5 does not = 0) constitute a tantrum?
>>93485275Ric is unironically one of those twitter fags who thinks saying 2+2=4 is transphobic. Its one reason he spergs when people say religion can be a good thing.
>>93485253There is no difference between precrime and crime. A precommitment to 'make the best of what happens after the fact' is just a precommitment to let the crime happen. You're a participant in the crime by planning to be a bystander. You are actually incentivizing yourself to turn a blind eye to other people's bad actions /because those actions can be useful to you/. Do you not understand that by resolving yourself to be an opportunist, acting like a vulture, you inevitably create a conflict of interest should you position yourself as an enforcer of justice?
>>93485259Devote more time to recovering and making jumps and less to moral spergfests, please.
>>93483603Yeah, I ran into that when I made a build for it back in the day.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/84317457/#q84320382I just said fuck it and said those points were wasted. 50cp isn't that big a deal, especially in such a little jump.>>93484472>Sonic has humans who aren't EggmanYeah, like. Purportedly, humans are just hanging out somewhere in the games world. They show up sometimes in games like Shadow or '06 or Unleashed, but then in some world-spanning games like Forces they are conspicuously absent. If TailsTube is to be believed, the humans mostly live on continents and the animalfolk tend to hang out on islands, but even that is pretty dependent on "whatever we want to do at the time."In broader continuities like the Archie comics, humans tended to have deeper lore involved with the planet's backstory, but then in the games they're just kinda... there.That's of course disregarding the settings like the movies or Sonic X which heavily lean on the two worlds theory (one with animalfolk, one with humans, which for whatever reason interact), though that seems to no longer be canon in the main timeline.It's just... a huge clusterfuck, really, made all the more complicated by Sega of Japan's rabid insistence that only they know how to use Sonic moving forward, despite their complete disinterest in specifying story beats and only being interested in stopping other people from doing the same. Sonic exists in a constant vague haze of "iunnowhuh?"... But yes, humans besides Eggman exist. They just tend to not DO anything, unless they're somewhere of Robotnik's bloodline.
>>93485259Nta but they both answered your argument and it can be seen how you entered the argument accusing everyone else of being a shitposter, without bringing a single good argument for why the result of the research would be tainted by the research itself.
>>93485289Make a jump.
>>93485283You arent planning to stand back, you are just admitting that you cannot be everywhere and make all bad things stop. You are simply admitting that you are not in fact an omnipotent omnipresent god out to protect everyone from all wrongdoing. Unless you can personally stop something you are not responsible for it.
>>93485289I mean, the one time a human in a Sonic game actually did something of note we all absolutely fucking hated it, so...
>>93485283>You're a participant in the crime by planning to be a bystander.But I'm not planning to? I would do it only if the crime already happened, if I found them midway I would absolutely stop them.
I am making an official ruling that if you ever have 50 CP and nothing to spend it on except another companion import (which you may or may not even have another TO import), you can convert the remainder at a 1:1 rate to either 1 week of vacation per or 1 crate of wine per.
>>93485291I think Ric takes the position that either >A.) The research doesn't need to be produced via unethical means, so the exercise was in the first place pointless, and should be repeated by more ethical means to prove it was pointless.>B.) The research absolutely requires methods which are ethically repugnant to advance, in which case it is not ever ethical to use the product at all.
>>93485311Weren't there a bunch of humans in Black Knight?
>>93485316Well thats dumb since you need to retest it regardless to prove it. Doing that ethically makes sense.
>>93485316Then I agree with the second, the first no because I would waste resources and time to prove a point to dead people or imprisoned ones.
>>93485316A is still predicated on tainted knowledge, because you are working from a conclusion you wouldn't otherwise have access to.
>>93484789Became the childlike emperor and started cleaning my room, in effect sorting the shared human unconsciousness out and let myself/fantasy/human unconsciousness reach higher levels of creativity and light and mirth, never deleting the shadow outright but playfully integrating itStarted a new Renaissance on earth.I also manipulated things in a way that Bastian father got a pay raise coupled with a workhour reduction so the two of them had more time for each other and I started Bastian off on a good path of becoming a successful writer and artist bringing his childlike wonder into his art>>93483896Only active powers, sorry
>>93485298>>93485314You are planning to stand back. That's what 'planning to make the best of the outcome' means. If you had pre-committed to destroy all evil and all products of evil without compromise, there would be no problem. But because the products of evil have value to you now, you have determined that should you come upon an evil act after the fact, that you'd 'make use of it'. This means you will avoid putting yourself into a position to prevent evil from reaching the stage where it will become useful, because you're incentivizing yourself to let crimes happen.
>>93485326>Only active powers, sorryNTA, but I'm surprised you of all people would say that. I approve.
>>93485322Not that I could really remember. There was Merlina, but she was more of an elf. And Illusion-Arthur, but he was an illusion (and a demon). And the villagers were...kinda weird troll people? Everyone else was mobians. Tails was the blacksmith, Knuckles was Gawain, Shadow was Lancelot, Blaze was Percival, and Sonic was, of course, King Arthur (in the end). ...Don't think about the arthurian myths of Lancelot crossdressing.
>>93485270Repeating the same shit over and over without addressing the core issue isn't an argument. Your argument is that you are morally right on using research regardless of where it came from. Its not simply by the fact that such a stance disregards the victims, direct or indirect from such experiments. While it may not be your fault directly, knowingly taking such research does put a modicum of responsibility and guilt on your person. You're not to be condemned for it, but you are to be condemned for being a shit.>>93485316I do agree that the research should be used, however it does come with its own set of moral responsibility over the origin of such. As it stands, it doesn't make the user (who knows the origin) completely innocent, as he's a direct beneficiary of morally repugnant practices. My argument is that the anon that was asking if it was moral has his answer. It's not moral, despite him not being the one that made the research, as he becomes a beneficiary of it. Him taking a more practical or utilitarian stance to justify his perceived innocence is nothing more than a tantrum of someone incapable of taking responsibility and a shit human being in general.>>93485291I replied to one, not sure from where the other dick suckers came out
>>93485330NTA but that would only be true if you valued making use of the outcome more than stopping the bad thing. I would choose to cut off my arm instead of dying, but I would choose neither if I had the option. I'm not looking for situations to cut off my arm.
>>93485341What about the Arthurian myth of Lancelot cucking Arthur?
>>93485296Workin' on one.In the meantime, go make a build for Mother: Cognitive Dissonance.>>93485311She got captured like 17 different times is what she did. Then she doomed the world, and then she resurrected Sonic with the power of true love's kiss.Most people weren't enamored.>>93485322There was Merlina, if you wanna go that route. Nobody else, though. The townsfolk were definitely NOT humans. They were weird little goblin folk.
The human body has 206 bones and names for all of them. We know this thanks to people chopping up corpses ages ago. Studying basic biology in primary and middle school makes you a psycho that chops up corpses. The vikings pillagers, murderers and rapists. Ever been on a boat? So are you. Using any form of technology that came from the space race makes you a bastard that kills dogs. Remember that time a doctor made a medical imaging of your body? You are an accomplice in Nagasaki.
>>93485349More like you popped off at the mouth and cried when called out.
>>93485356Well, Amy was the Lady of the Lake, so it's already gonna be weird one way or another. Sonic's wife wouldn't be Amy, so I'm gonna take a wild fucking guess at...Rouge maybe? And if we go by Fate psychosis and assume that Amy is also Morgana by some crazy bullshit (purely because I ship Sonamy) then Amy ends up raping Sonic and giving birth to Mordred. The real question is who is Mordred?
>>93485362>Workin' on one.Shit, for real?
>>93485349If there is a clear "optimal" moral option that you can't do better than in a given situation, according to your moral framework, and your moral framework still judges you poorly, it is the framework that is wrong.
>>93485330>If you had pre-committed to destroy all evil and all products of evil without compromise, there would be no problem.Why would I destroy the fruit of evil? All the world should be destroyed then, innocent children with a bad family should have been destroyed, sayans are evil, so should I kill Goku, son of an evil person? Accepting that the past happened but that doesn't necessarily determine how something will be.
>>93485371Silver?
>>93485352The problem is, I honestly think for some anons they very much would value making use of the outcome much, MUCH more than stopping the bad thing. I think anyone who isn't willing to completely throw the good out with the bad has already made their stance clear that they do in fact value the good more than the bad, and will quietly and cowardly refuse to engage with the question of whether or not they're culpable for bad shit they're advantaged by letting happen
>>93485380I feel like Silver would more fit the Galahad archtype-he's got the whole Chosen One thing going on, quest for the holy grail/save the future, magical mysterious powers that nobody else in Arthurian Mythos gets.
>>93485367The idea that you can only make use of something in a scientific field if it comes from some altruistic magical happy land where people only do things in a way that nobody can object to is so fucking stupid. May as well go back to living in the dirt since houses and money were made by people using capitalism. Or try all white people for 1% of them having slaves back in the day.
>>93485371>>93485385???
>>93485383Of course you value good more than bad dipshit but that doesnt mean you let the bad off without punishment. You cannot stop all evil but that does not mean you should stop all good because it comes from a bad place, do you murder people for what their parents did too?
>>93485387Capitalism is based and good, though.
>>93485349Alester is evil and made AC, Misaki beneficies from AC, Misaki is morally repugnant, since she's responsible for what she beneficies from.
>>93485383I agree bro. We should start killing everybody. That way all the bad people will die. Some people might let evil people get away with shit otherwise.
>>93485387Okay but be honest with yourself, you would own slaves if it were legal. You don't actually have any problem with any of that shit other people did and you'd do it all again personally if it were required to get back all of the stuff we currently have should it ever be lost. If civilization collapsed tomorrow and the only want to restore it were repeating all of the sins that got us here in the first place, you either would or would not be okay with that. And choosing to let other people commit those sins unopposed IS acceptance.
>>93485390>Mordred is secretly a girlAnd the Fate connections keep growing...
>>93485394I agree mostly but it has been a cause of bad for some people. Money is a goal some people will do anything for. Anything can be bad and has had bad things done for it in the past.
>>93485387>Or try all white people for 1% of them having slaves back in the day.They way we are going...
>>93485397>Okay but be honest with yourself, you would own slaves if it were legal.No I wouldnt? Why would I want that hassle?If I haf to rebuild civilization I dont know if I could do it but I could avoid some of the major evils simply by having a framework and basic tech tree to work from. Hell theres even books made on how to do this.
>>93485367Being a knowing direct beneficiary and an indirect one makes all the difference. Taking Orochimaru's knowledge to aid others is the only choice - whoever benefits from the later treatments from that knowledge is innocent from it. However its very different for those that straight up know how that knowledge came to be (the loss of several innocent lives) yet obtain gains from it.Its a moral dilemma for a reason. When faced with such options one has to either agree with the outcome of repugnant actions being a net positive that wasn't possible with more ethical methods, or disagree and willingly ignore the possibility of using that knowledge to help others. In both cases you stop being innocent. Regardless of your choice. You can only do what's best for others.>>93485368Great argument. >>93485375I mean, nothing wrong with a moral flexible point, but there's a difference between owning that and pretending to be the good guy no matter what.>>93485395Aleister is shit and you as well, mostly cause Aleister's magic fucked up people perception of AC and what happens within.
>>93485383Nta but that isn't the question, the system is exploitable but the question was if it's wrong by itself.
>>93485387I be guessing yo ass ain't never heard of reparations n shiet, dawg. Dey's also land back but yo ass wouldn't be known dat fo sho.
Did the village that tortured Angra Mainyu do nothing wrong?
>>93485414>pretending to be the good guyIf you acted morally optimally, you ARE the good guy. I mean, we aren't even talking about someone trying for the best and not being perfect. We are talking about someone who has acted perfectly. If they aren't a good guy, your framework is fundamentally broken.
>>93484974>To be fair, the truck-military complex isn't a bad thing if everyone, EVERYONE unilaterally agrees that more trucks are always a good thingThat's not what I'm talking about. I'm not complaining about "too much trucks", I'm talking about "why would you make a truck that can do all of this???"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3gRHlJS478
>>93485413>If I haf to rebuild civilization I dont know if I could do it but I could avoid some of the major evils simply by having a framework and basic tech tree to work from. Hell theres even books made on how to do this.You're missing my point. My argument is that, should you be forced to start over with history and the only way forward is to reenact all of the tragedies of history in detail down to every murder and rape, then you would either decide you're okay with that or decide history doesn't deserve to happen. It's a strict binary choice
>>93485414>Aleister is shit and you as well, mostly cause Aleister's magic fucked up people perception of AC and what happens within.>It's not moral, despite him not being the one that made the research, as he becomes a beneficiary of itYou argue that using the result of evilis evil, so Misaki is evil.
>>93485333Don't know exactly how I got the powerwanker label, but thanks
>>93485430To deal with Eggman's bots, obviously. It needs to be at least this stronk to have a chance of dealing with Eggman's shit.
>>93485435>either decide you're okay with that or decide history doesn't deserve to happen.If I had the ability to rewrite history then it really DOESNT need to happen as it did. Again your argument comes from the point that a person is either morally repugnant or an equally evil omnipotent being. Your argument is flawed.
>>93485426They did nothing right. If a bunch of villagers in the boonies and their collective delusions can make a vessel for a god they should have groomed the kid into a vessel of Ahura Mazda to bless them all and declare all their actions good and just.
>>93485390Shoving her to the Fleetway universe for fun
>>93485446Torture is easier than making someone good.
>>93485435Nta but I wouldn't have the guts to do all of that, but the question of its morality mainly depend on its alternative.
>>93485448One day. One fucking day. I'll make a Fleetway jump.
>>93485445Anon, it's a strict binary choice. Either the universe completely ceases to exist and nothing ever happened, or you commit every single wrongdoing in all of human history and also have every single wrongdoing brought upon you. This is your choice, you must personally advance civilization to create the world that currently exist by doing the work of every single man and women ever born up to here, including all of the needless violence and suffering, or you simply choose not to suffer and cause suffering in turn, achieving nirvana by realizing you don't exist and neither does anything else.
>>93485466Exactly your argument is bullshit.
>>93485448She'd probably have a cool scene where she inadvertantly becomes the hero when Super Sonic goes off his nut again. Maybe befriend some of the side characters as a result. She is somehow only slightly more caustic than regular Sonic and a lot more dependable to not randomly trash stuff, so she gets accepted into the fold. She and Sonic never actually become friends and somehow everyone is just fine with this.
>>93485471It's not an argument, it's a rhetorical question. It's technically not even that, because it's actually meant to be answered.
>>93485427>The framework of morality is wrong if I don't have a way to be the good guy alwayslollmao, evenNigga, face reality, not everyone can always have a perfect answer. You certainly won't.>>93485437>You argue that using the result of evilis evil, so Misaki is evil.No. I argue that exists a moral dilemma with neither option being free of responsibility.There are several such dilemmas, take for example an average person obtaining highly classified information by several governments, lets say that God is real but he fucking hates humanity and wants to end it in a couple years. He not only has this new information, but also unshakable proof of it. Should the man tell people the truth, show them the proof of a hateful god and let them decide (knowing this will likely result on a lot of shit)? or should the man become complicit on the lie, letting people go on without knowing the truth and die suddenly in a couple years? The answer will only depend on your own values. About truth and freedom vs peace. In no case you're exempt from the guilt of your own actions however. Whatever you choose, you must own to it. Or, since you mention ToAru, should you make the PCP available for all nations? Knowing that its basically child torture and that there's a hard cap on how much can powers be developed for most? And that's without taking into account the magic side
>>93485478Bullshit. Your entire question boils down to you proclaiming that everyone is evil because if they were not evil they would just let themselves die.
>>93485466Nta but your question stopped making sense for multiple reason.It became "is humanity justified to exist" wich in no way is coherent to the argument at hand, and the answer is obviously I let everything burn because I'm not capable enough to emulate what every person ever did.
>>93485495Taking responsibility for something you have no part in is just being an idiot.
>>93485495You were unironically a lawfag when playing smt werent you. Real punish the sons for the sins of the father type.
>>93485495>The framework of morality is wrong if I don't have a way to be the good guy alwaysLiterally yes. People fail to be perfect, but if there is no way in a given situation for a person to act morally, then the system you are using to judge them is internally borked. If anything, that real life is complicated and perfect answers don't exist should mean that a framework should be MORE lenient, not less.
>>93485498Well, yes. You are evil, because you want to live and won't let something like morality stop you from living. You now know that about yourself. Don't be offended, all it means is that you value yourself more than the suffering of countless other people, you should use that as a source of motivation and confidence. Life your life knowing that when push comes to shove, you can take anything the world throws at you and hit back just as hard, up to and including genocide. Be proud of your own mental strength.
Man I miss when ric was having a brain hemorrhage, it was quieter then. And the thread had less image spam. And yes I know Im morally not on the good side saying that.
>>93485511>You are evil just by existingNah fuck you.
>>93485495The problem is that you haven't brought a single reason for why it's immoral to use information to benefit humanity, regardless of the source, if you were saying that it depends since morality is abstract I would actually agree but you said it's immoral, so arguing it's evil.to answer the last question no, just like I wouldn't use Orochimaru's experiment to torture childrens, I would use that knowledge to the best of my abilities to make something moral out of it. (or rather my jumper would, since I'm a lazy POS).
>>93485461Even though the amount of material to sift through is a bit daunting, I still believe that you can do it anon. One step at a time.>>93485474An anon of similar wavelengths! Thats more or less how I expect her interactions with Sonic & the gang to go.
>>93485503For the sake of actually answering the question as simply yes or no, you should take it for granted that you totally can in fact commit every single murder throughout all of history by yourself. Let's just assume, as the meaningless background framework form how the scenario works, that all humans are reincarnations of one soul looping back and forth throughout time, and you have the choice to live out the entire continuum of human history as your future or simply terminate the process.
>>93484794You know, I'd like to make my Jumper's system just with no stats, just status and HUD. Maybe Identify and Inventory.Maybe Achievement System if I feel very power wankey.
>>93485533I'm saying I'm not capable in the sense I'm not smart, ruthless or benevolent enough, I've not got an high enough pain tolerance, I'm not social enough, I generally could not tolerate living for millions of history.
>>93485533If its all one soul its literally not evil. Its just masturbatory self inserts at that point.
>>93485548All the same, would you put yourself through it?
As much shit as I give SB for whining about "off-topic discussions" and basically forcing people to stop talking because you're a bitch, it does at least lead to a thread that's less clogged with retards arguing about nonsensical bullshit.
>>93485549Even if I did the argument that it would be evil is nullified. It wouldnt be evil it would just be one long jackoff session.
>>93485528There are several reasons, from the fact that its a slippery slope when it comes to justifying later practices, the disregard of the victims, the hypocrisy between actions and results, etc. None of them matter however because they question if its morally right and its not because anon is being a twat about it.>>93485504Let me introduce you to the term "accomplice" and its several subdivisions >>93485507I do not know what smt is in your zoomer lingo, but have at you.Also a kid benefiting from their family running some evil business is very different from you being the mayor of that town and getting direct and indirect personal benefits from such practices. The former has no idea of what's happening nor reasonable ways to stop it. The latter has, as well as a responsibility to do it - and that's the difference. >>93485510That could be an argument if anon hadn't given a moral framework to work with at the start, which is utilitarianism from a modern viewpoint, and the answer is that not only he isn't morally correct, but also that he's a shit.
>>93485554I agree that it might be a little off topic but I'm arguing for my jumper, since I wouldn't do anything , since I'm cowardly and lazy, so it's useful for the chain.
>>93485554lol this discussion is the best we've had in actual fucking months. If you wanted us to go back to talking about fat anime whores then feel free to spam 100 images of Pierce Brosnan
>>93485259Funny how people pretended to be concerned about you for like a day, and then they quickly get back to baiting you into a shitpost storm.
>>93485554Make a jump then you can talk shitposter. Ric wants to talk about this so its important enough.
>>93485565Hurting yourself is evil.
>>93485566>There are several reasons, from the fact that its a slippery slope when it comes to justifying later practices, the disregard of the victims, the hypocrisy between actions and results, etc. None of them matter however because they question if its morally rightyes, wich means that the action itself is moral, but exploitable, like I posted above, the implications of it may be immoral but the action itslf isn't.
>>93485554Fine.Jumpers! Tell me about the latest additions in your harem
>>93485566Again how is being the mayor of evil town in any way the same as making the best out of a bad situatiom that you had no part in? Smt isnt even zoomer speak its an old game series, shin megami tensei, jts talked about pretty often here. You really need to fuck off and stop digging the hole you are in.
>>93485582I recently picked up this lovely little Porc waifu.
>>93485566>Let me introduce you to the term "accomplice" and its several subdivisions>accomplice: a person who helps another commit a crime.Wow look at that it is almost as if NOT BEING FUCKING INVOLVED doesnt make you an accomplice! How weird! Dont use words you dont understand.
>>93485566>That could be an argument ifSo you have essentially conceded my point, and have shifted to which moral framework to use, which is irrelevant to that point. If you think using research to save lives is less moral than doing nothing an letting people die, you are still creating a framework where there is a morally correct way to act.
>>93485584That's true.
>>93485572I mean, not really. We've reached the stage where people are basically just repeating themselves and making points that are, at best, orthogonal to the other positions in the argument.
>>93485566Nta but the problem is that the mayor is taking part in the evil, the example is more if the family dies the kid knowing from where the money came should open humanitarian activities or burn them because blood moneys
>>93485582Trying to figure out the best jump to get Maria Akeboshi expy.
>>93485588Did you pork her ?Also, is she from that fat elves manga/anime?
>>93485572Architect-meming isn't the same as actual fat fetishism, and I'm tired of pretending it is. At best a few fat fetishists have taken to posting it, not knowing it's meant to poke fun at the very concept.
>Post a question about a jump I'm building for and then leave>Come back to the thread dominated by an argument about moralityGuys my problem with AGLAIA is that there's literally no difference between killing them for selfish reasons to just steal their research operation, and killing them for justice. These fucks don't even value their own lives that much, so it's not good enough to just kill them. I don't plan on ever releasing their research even if I keep it because the research is for weaponizing the human body and brainwashing and shit. I'm more inclined to destroy the research as punishment towards the people who created it.
>>93485611I did indeed pork her. And she porked up quite a bit more.And she is indeed. Her name is Oku, and she's an Orc. Which in that setting, are basically just pig-elves.
>>93485604If your family was evil then you should burn all the money and then commit suicide because you are inherently tainted. It is the only way to be moral.
>>93485607Maria no Danzai is a good manga.You would think it's all about her curves, but it's just a nice bonus that rarely show up.Husband got really lucky... and then got really unlucky...
>>93485620Honestly ignore their indifference and kill them, after that if nothing of their research can be salvaged destroy it to make sure no one can use it, btw what is AGLAYA?
>>93485625Nice handlebars.
>>93485625>Her name is Oku, and she's an Orc.Unsure if I should chuckle or groan at this.
>>93485636They're basically HYDRA I guessSee >>93484793 for a more detailed description
>>93485572If we go four hours without talking about onaholes anons get angsty and start posting tits to change the topic. You know this, I know this. It's how the place has always rolled.
>>93485641Well the main character is named Erufuda and she's an elf, the dark-elf is named Kuroeda, the ogre is named Oga, the werewolf (Lycan) is named Raika, the mermaid is named Mero, the kobold is named Kobo, and so on...In conclusion, you should absolutely groan.
Any last fixes or issues before I call Power Wash Simulator complete?
>>93485647They aren't onaholes.They are "waifus", "wives", "bitches", "whores", "sluts", "toys", or "tools".Different you see.
>>93485654I miss when fat people were shamed instead of applauded.
>>93485660>Hololive
>>93485667Are you The Ricrod?
>>93485665I don't mind them not being shamed, but I cannot stand the gaslighting being pushed of obesity being healthy or beautiful.
>>93485667I made the VTuber SoL jump. It's a bit late to fake shame now.
>>93485674Who is your Vtuber waifu
>>93485661Onaholes won't go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich>>93485667>picWho is that handsome lad?>>93485625Enjoy your piggy wife.>>93485619You were born fat and you will die fat. You fattie fatso.
>>93485665We live in a very bad world when what you are saying are borderline words of wisdom.
>>93485679>You were born fat and you will die fat. You fattie fatso.I literally said that it's based to make fun of fat fetishists.
>>93485677Filian. There is a direct correlation between how much of a spaz a VTuber is, and how much I like them.
>>93485679Are YOU The Ricrod? There's not a The on your trip so I can't be sure.>Onaholes won't go to the kitchenThat too>sandwishDisgusting. Eat healthy food.
>>93485665>>93485690Obesity is profitable for both Big Pharma and Big Food. Cigarette companies did a similar thing when there were studies being done on the health effects of smoking.
>>93485698>Are YOU The Ricrod?Oh, I'm just a simple Ricrod, not THE one. He's higher up in the ric hierarchy, you see.>Eat healthy food.I refuseI wanna live freely and die young>>93485691That's what I'm doing. You fat shit.
>>93485704If you eat shit, that's not living free.At least eat food trashy good, like I dunno, a kebab from a good store bare minimum.Pizzas can be good but holy shit it's worse for your health and pricer.>Oh, I'm just a simple Ricrod, not THE one. He's higher up in the ric hierarchy, you see.Where is The Little Ricrod and The Big Ricrod?
>>93471610JUMP #0177: East vs West +1000Location: My port city, 1974Age: 7 +50 = 57Gender: MaleOrigin: Head of State (150)Perks: >Suck-up subordinates (free)>National foci (100)>Blessings of Bro Tito (200)>Opposition in name only (300)>Riding against the winds of change (400)Items: >Next week’s paper (400)>Stache of Steel (free)Drawbacks: >Import save game (+0)>The third world war (+600)Total: 1550/1600Commentary: Somehow it doesn't surprise that this all ends in nuclear fire. Given that the rest of the planet has given up its last bit of sanity, Jumper decides to bring out his own weapons of mass destruction to put a quick end to the global conflict. I suppose the aftermath is a good opportunity to test how good my anti-radiation tech has gotten? Now, since this is the last of his PGS jumps I’m almost tempted to go into a critique of their setups. I’d love to ask Cenanon what the fuck he was thinking about when making various design choices. But that would just be me ranting into the void, given that he is long gone (and I’ve mentioned my thoughts in replies to previous PGS jumps already anyway).Who knows, now that Paradox seems to be moving into the next generation/iteration of their game lineup, we might get a few sequel jumps eventually.
Trying to make a build for Kenichi and need a bit of inspiration.Who did you pick for your master? Or did you design your own?
>>93485719I mean we already have a CK3 jump.>CenaAnon.I mean he was last seen 2021, which is ... "only" three years ago fuck.
>>93485690I have found many nuggets of wisdom in this thread over the years. That dude with the rocks last thread was pretty wise sounding. A real wiseass.
>>93485742>I mean we already have a CK3 jump.CK3 is indeed what prompted that comment. I assume Paradox will in the coming years move the rest of their game lines forward. So getting new jumps isn't out of the question. Though looking back at some of my PGS commentaries I sound more annoyed than I really am. We'll se what the coming years will bring.
>>93485716I'm free to eat whatever. And I'll eat rice pudding now>Where is The Little Ricrod and The Big Ricrod?The Rod clan is very secretive, we can't tell that information to outsiders, you see>>93485733>Who did you pick for your master? In-setting I went with YOMI and then changed to ryouzanpaku after some torrid romance with Shigure. Also the jump really needs a canon companion option.
You ever visited jumps just to rape certain thots?
>>93485782>ryouzanpakuAren't those the pacifism cucks?
>>93485771Honestly, I've always had the vague urge to make a March of the Eagle's jump but that's really a big shitpost.There is certainly plenty to be annoyed about, but I personally think a lot of what I don't like with jumps would only take a few tweaks and I still use them.>We'll see what the coming years will bring.True, Project Caesar is dropping next year.
>>93485782>I'm free to eat whatever. And I'll eat rice pudding nowBut... that's healthy?I love that, great stuff, but holy shit is it a pain to make.>The Rod clan is very secretive, we can't tell that information to outsiders, you seeThat's some chunni shit I pulled from you holy shit.
>>93485793True the jumps are perfectly usable and do have useful perks and items. I'm just grumbling.Also the weirdest thing about Paradox games is that reddit has a EOW mod jump.
>>93485742But what about the byzantine empire?
As mentioned, this was the halfway point in my backlog. I'm probably going to take a break so I don't burn out, but I've said that several times before, so I also might not. Depends on how motivated I feel. The thing about me and jumpmaking is that I have immense difficulty switching out of jumpmaking mode once I'm in it. Like there's this weird transition period where I've been so hyper-fixated on jumpmaking for so long that I briefly forget how I used to spend my freetime when I'm not working on jumps.
>>93485809Better to grumble together, I find.>spoilerEAW is a good mod, and I do mean that most sincerely.
>>93485818As someone who understands "hyper jumpmaking mode", please take a break. I understand your pain and I don't even try with visuals for you, you absolutely need rest.
>>93485829*I don't even try with visuals unlike you
>>93485824It is but i didn't think there would be a jump for it.
>>93485793I almost worked myself up enough to make a jump for a david drake book where an ancient ai links up with a person to rebuild civilization. Everyone rode giant dogs because horses died off. I lost all motivation shortly after though. Still, giant war dog mounts sound cool.
>>93485733>Who did you pick for your master?Kenichi's dad. It involved lots of camping and shooting things innawoods. It was great.
>>93485800>But... that's healthy?Yeah, but I didn't put enough condensed milk in it. I'll have to buy more.>That's some chunni shit I pulled from you holy shit.I read chunnige. This ain't nothing.>>93485792Yeah, they make wojack faces and bitch about using martial arts to kill>>93485838IIRC kenichi's mom had it going on.
>>93485845Did you rape them into being more based?
>>93485853The rice puddings? That's disgusting. You weirdo
>>93485865No, the wojak face-makers who bitch about killing.
[Nobilis redux]Drawbacks: Time Before Time: The First Age, True Anon, Obviously Supernatural Being, Reckless Muse, Imperial CondescensionX3, A Bouquet of NettlesX3, Life, Actually, I'm My Own Master Now, Rage of the Plebs: Chibi-True Gods (3750)Imperator, Heaven: Visage, Allegorical, Holy, Gardener (3250)-Creation, Consecration, Salvation, The First AgeInherent Superiority (Free)Feel Out The World (Free)Regalia Unbound (Free)Patience Like Eternity (Free)Pride Goeth Before Everything (3050)Transcendent: Vastness, Deepness, Wanderer, Theft (2550)-Perseverance, The Absolute, Perfection, The Wishing HeartSOMEWHERE, THERE IS THE SOUND OF DRUMS (1550)Scholar of Perseverance (550)A Menagerie of Minions: Light-sherds, Dark-sherds (Free)A Little Slice of Heaven (or somewhere else): Eden (250)Entropy (or Attaris) the 2nd, Magister of Evil Yet To Come, Principle of A School Yet To Be Built, By The Grace of Heaven and the Light (Free)ALRIGHT soYEAH, a stray question from someone else that helpfully reminded me one of my drawbacks DOES grant EXACTLY 50 CP has overhauled my entire build. As has the realisation that Lilith probably makes more sense as a full Strategist-scale entity, with the triplet firstborn daughterus being particularly weird Nobles that spring into existence and are causally bound to her (they hate this).hopefully HOPEFULLY this WILL be the last time I fiddle with this damned thing.1/2>>93485289>humans are just hanging out somewhere>humans are completely unconcerned by Sonic's existence or Mobian civilisation in generalHuh. I'd question why they're so...quiet and why Eggman doesn't have his own human extremist nation or something. But I suppose Sega has a much more optimistic opinion of humanity than me.>>93485362>She got captured like 17 times...that's the one from the Solaris game, right?Also I was kinda under the impression Merlina was supposed to be a fairy or something because...well, pointy ears mostly.
>>93485792Yeah, but it has Miu and Shigure
>>93485884Let's Go, Everyone! X5 (Free)-Lilith: Excrucian (500), Excruciating Existence (Free), The Welkin-Law (Free), Marvellous Monologue Masterclass (Free), Friendly Neighbourhood Godslayer (Free), SOMEWHERE, THERE IS THE SOUND OF DRUMS (0)--"Broken Strategist": Eide, Allegorical, Wounded, Sealed--Nobilis 1e Hell --Dying of ironic femme fatale cliches-Naamah--Noble--True Gods--"Yes, Imperator!" (Free), Swiss Army Elementalist (Free), Strength of Euryale (Free), The Language of Flowers (Free), An Adventure Into Your Kidneys (800), Out On A Limb (500), A Legacy For Eden (0), The Sour Apple Mash Distillery (Free)-Eisheth--Noble--Aaron's Serpents--"Yes, Imperator!" (Free), Swiss Army Elementalist (Free), Strength of Euryale (Free), The Language of Flowers (Free), Arboreal Bonds (900), Branching Paths (600), Inherent Superiority (500), A Legacy For Eden (0), The Sour Apple Mash Distillery (Free)-Agrat--Noble--Hell--"Yes, Imperator!" (Free), Swiss Army Elementalist (Free), Strength of Euryale (Free), The Language of Flowers (Free), Hell Is Your Kind of People (800), Baptism of Wicked Flame (500), A Legacy For Eden (0)-Shekinah: Drop-In, Barely Phased Everyman (Free), Minion In The Making (Free), Master of the Mundane (Free), Parting the Veil (Free), Fortunate Son (800), The Face That Slew A Lord of Dark (500), Scholar of Perseverance (0), An Arbitrary Number of Silly Hats and Sassy Outfits (Free), The Sour Apple Mash Distillery (Free)
>>93485888Why not just seduce/mindbreak/rape them to the more based side?
>>93485884>...that's the one from the Solaris game, right?Sonic 06, yes.>why Eggman doesn't have his own human extremist nation He's too fat to lead one.
>>93485903Is he though? Is he really? People talk about his science, but Eggman's charisma and athleticism seems to be whatever the story needs it to be.
This is a rather wanky question but do you think the gem of cyttorak could evolve a sharingan into an eternal ms?
>>93485900I was just planning to do it, thanks
>>93485792It's either Batman no kill rule or Junior you dare!? 24/7. There's no in between here. Shit's dumb.
>>93485733The correct answer is Shigure. Even better if you corrupt her.>>93485845A pain to make. Delicious. But an absolute pain.>I read chunnigeI want to say this doesn't exist, but knowing, you must have found some.>IIRC kenichi's mom had it going onHe has a mom?
Anyone know of a way to give myself invulnerability to magic while also letting me enhance myself? I was gonna grab the ring from hlw not to summon a demon lord but that reflects my own spells too iirc.
>>93485910I'd argue it's not just a dumb shit, it's one of the dumbest shit ever.
>>93485907Absolutely yes. And probably all the way to a Rinnegan too.
>>93485910>It's either Batman no kill ruleBatman doesnt have a no killing rule batman has a no guns rule, he will drop you off a building and not care if you die from it. His no killing rule is specific to the joker.
>>93485919Gift of the Twilight Imperium from Negima, or White of Mars from UQ Holder
>>93485919White of Mars from UQ holder.
>>93485919Fairly sure Magic Cancel from Negima still let's the user be buffed. Or at elast I remember Asuna being buffed by Negi at some point.
>>93485912Shigure was so best girl in that series its kinda baffling>>93485867shut the fuck up you food fucker. >>93485926Why does batman loves the joker so?
>>93485925See thats kind of what I was thinking but it felt a bit extreme. I just want a way to give the uchiha an out so they dont need to be so angsty all the time.
>>93485926>His no killing rule is specific to the joker.Not even that. Dude literally chased the Joker into a helicopter that exploded when it crashed, with pre-meditated intent.In any court of law with an unbiased jury he'd be convicted of murder.
>>93485890What's with the Nobilis hike?
>>93485939How the fuck do you convict Batman?
>>93485939No court would convict someone for murdering the Joker. Probably not even the ones in California.
>>93485935>Why does batman loves the joker so?Real answer? Because the wrkters milk the joker for cash.In universe its because bruce is literally fucking insane and he equates killing the joker to be that final line he cant cross without going too far. If he kills the joker it means to him that he himself is not worth saving.
>>93485926Dont forget that is a lersonal rule, all the robins and batwoman and red hood use guns all the time. Batman is the only one with the no gun rule and he only applies it to himself.
>>93485948>No court would convict someone for murdering the JokerAn Iranian court would.
>>93485935It's either her, or Miu. Or Miu 2.0.The Genki or the Cool one.
>>93485957Alfred uses guns too. (well used, he's dead (again) now and this time it seems to have stuck)
>>93485964Aww that sucks. Alfreds one of the best people in dc.
>>93485884>Going back to the Transcendent + Drums + Scholar combo not even after a dayHonestly, is there anything in the setting that can beat that?
Where can one get a fiat-backed sniper rifle?
>>93485939>>93485949Supes needs to rape correct the batsy.>>93485961Miu was kinda boring tbf. Not bad but not that good either.
>>93485786The only reason to go to TLoK is if you want to mindbreak Korra.
>>93485972>picGirl needing to get ryonaed.>Miu was kinda boring tbf. Not bad but not that good either.That's why I added Miu 2.0. Because she's less boring.Being the Main Girl is often a fuckng curse, because it mean they will suck balls.
>>93485972>Supes needs to rape correct the batsyWouldnt work. It would just feed into batmans psychosis. Hell there was a recent movie/cartoon where harly goes into batmans mind and its just an endless repeating loop of the night his parents died with him as a little kid. Like when you leave one part you get to a new part and it just restarts. To the point that even harley who finally gave up the joker for being crazy decides that batman is just too fucked up.
>>93485972bro thats gay
>>93485982Or if you want to keep her from retroactively killing the older avatars and making the world a worse place. Killing her legitimately works too. Water avatars are just the worst.
>>93485970ACME Corporation.
>>93485941I've been fiddling with my build in private for way, way too long before more or less settling ages ago. I settled for having loads of perks in exchange of the most vital ones in my old build because I just wanted the whole thing to look neater. But remember I mentioned a conflict of interest before the Nobilis update? Changing one specific thing (Imperators being explicitly even more freeform) made me want to fiddle with it one last time because now I can do the thing I want without injecting QUITE as many drawbacks as initially.I'm dead serious with wanting this to be the last act of fiddling because frankly even I'm sick of it and the elation of jumping my own jump has worn off but, well, you all know my track record with quitting jumpmaking too.
>>93485925I don't know, the sharingan doesn't naturally evolve in the rinnegan.
>>93485989Its not gay if they're bros>>93485983>Because she's less boring.I mean, psycho miu is still boring miu most of the time, she only gets kinda murdery during fights. >>93485988Kinda fucked up how the writers took her away from the joker, now he has no sidekick.
>>93485972Is >smells godly a Little Witch Academia reference?
>>93485968Right at the start of the build? The Excrucian Host/Heaven or a similarly united faction of Imperators putting their undivided attention into crushing you. Remember, Scholar and Drums don't make you God/The Number One Void King right off the bat, they take time to ramp up. So you're just an unusually buff and destructive cosmic entity right at the start. And Lore alone mentions that there is a chance, even if it's situational and uncertain, for even a regular Strategist to catch and bind a Transcendent being on their own so I imagine the united efforts of an entire Imperator faction would be problematic (This is offset by MOST Imperators being, as a rule, individualistic and self-absorbed. Honestly I think Heaven being dominant in Creation has as much to do with Heaven having a hierarchy as Heaven being strong because they're beautiful)
>>93486010>I mean, psycho miu is still boring miu most of the time, she only gets kinda murdery during fights.That's still better than Miu.
>>93486009Nta but isnt the natural final evolution of the sharingan wind up being rinnesharingan? With a possible side evolution of rinnegan if you mix in some hashirama cells?
>Kenichi girlsKaname is an underrated pick.
>>93486022The sharingan descends from the rinnesharingan, like the rinnegan, but normally the sharingan doesn't evolve back into them, it's needed the combination of Asura's and Indra's chakra to do it, normally it caps out at EMS.
>>93486011Yes. But its also a pun>>93486018>That's still better than Miu.Not a high bar to pass. >>93486023Post her and defend why she's good
>>93486040Like I said, Main Girl.
>>93486037Ah so be an uchiha and a senju/hashirama and and then use plot rock and possibly eat a chunk of an alien.
>>93485438>Don't know exactly how I got the powerwanker labelNta, but my guess is because>you made the Hyperion Cantos jump>you offered the option of being a being greater than a god in neverending story>you made the flatland jumpbut most likely because you respond to shitposters like that anonBut personally I feel you're pretty tame
>>93486040Are you some kind of secondary? Tertiary, even?
>>93486056Details escape my beaten down brain. I saw this shit years ago and the manga releases were different back then
>>93486056I am the secret forbidden quaternary!
So I was thinking of making a suit builder for the Ultraman suits but then I realized that the Anime and Manga handles them differently. In the anime every suit has the suit teleport onto the user by default whereas in the manga they need to manually put them on for the most part. Should I just scrap that idea and make the suits a tiered purchase?
>>93486056Looks boring and inferior to Shigure.
>>93486049While the jump allow you to normally it wouldn't be enough, it's necessary to have the chakra of those two, wich means be the reincarnation of one and get the chakra from the reincarnation of the other, like madara, reincarnation of indra getting Hashirama's, reincarnation of Ashura, cells, or receive power from an Otsutsuki, like Sasuke, reincarnation of Indra, receiving power from Hagoromo, or the Jubi Jinchuriki, who hold Kaguya's power. More recently the Shinju had normal rinnegans, being the avatars of the jubi.
>>93486017Nta but what do you think about the Zu?
>>93485988Im going to open an apartment complex in gotham where the new people moving in gets a care package of a safety filter straw kit, a gas mask, and a gun.
>>93485907personally I dont believe that it would develop into a Mangekyo or a Rinnegan, but rather strengthen the Sharingan enomrously, making it more chakra efficient and potentially even allow more liberate usages of Izanagi and Izanami(maybe just a high chakra cost instead of losing the eye).
>>93485970Get a Fiat Revelli Modello 1914 or 1935 and put a scope on it.
>>93486109Hey man thats still solid
>>93486076I am not familiar with the setting, but if there is decent variation among the power of suits, then a builder would probably be more fun.The teleporting vs putting the suit on thing, could probably just be left out of it though, and be left up for a continuity toggle/drawback or however you handle people choosing to be in the anime or manga.
>>93486097It's hard to create a threat assessment around a faction that barely feels like it exists in the setting. In their proper introduction to Nobilis by 3e, the Zu's greatest achievements seem to be defensive. They've got this mountain the Imperators and their agents cannot or will not interfere with. There's little stated about how many offensive victories they have, but given the Zu's espoused goal is freedom from divine control that suggests as much that the Zu try to choose their battles as that given how little care either Imperators of Excrucians have for the Zu that they're comparatively insignificant.It is hinted that the Zu's power comes from a dead thing they're crowding around like scavengers. If that sounds like there is something hypocritical about the Zu cause and they're just channeling power from a dead transcendental being, that's probably because it's meant to sound like it. But the hint comes from a particular lie-happy Excrucian.
...Anyways, Shadow Queen Peach is peak fucking aesthetic and I will hear nothing to the contrary.
>>93486132Thank you, I am trying to understand the setting better but find difficult to find informations on it.Of the companions are they all canon?
>>93486126>The teleporting vs putting the suit on thing, could probably just be left out of it though, and be left up for a continuity toggle/drawback or however you handle people choosing to be in the anime or manga.I mean that's the part I'm hung up on. they both do have suits that teleport to the user just that the Manga gets them later whereas the anime has them from the start.
>>93486121I didn't mean to imply that the result would be somehow weaker.I am just saying that I doubt that an outside source of mutation would take the exact same path as the natural evolution of the sharingan.
>>93485890If you take Legacy of Eden as a nobilis how many estate/divine attributes do you have? And must they be those available to a nobilis?
>>93486144It's almost unfair how much being evil or brainwashed not only make you cooler, but also give you a much better set of clothing.
>>93486144>Expectation>Reality
>>93486191This is Paper Mario after all.
>>93486191Fanart is funart, and what visuals look like in my imagination is untethered by reality.
>>93486144>>93486185Stop loving evil women
>>93486185Well if you lobotomized a person into an obedient husk wouldn't you put them in better clothes?
>>93486185Evil = money, and good drip is expensive.
>>93485997It'd be fiat-backed to drop an anvil on your head when you fire it.
>>93486210I wholeheartedly refuse!
>>93485926>Batman doesnt have a no killing rule batman has a no guns rulePretty sure that's wrong, the only batman who doesn't have a no killing rule is the live action movies ones. Most of his conflicts with Red Hood is because he is killin people, not using guns.
>>93486240>the only batman who doesn't have a no killing rule is the live action movies onesAnd the original comics one, and the dark timeline ones, etc. Also pretty sure Nolanverse has one, or he certainly acts like he does.
>>93486210Love evil women so hard they stop being evil.
>>93486210>>93486250This is literally the whole point of rape correction.
>>93486210Ric what the fuck are you talking about.>picI thought it was something else for a moment.>>93486216>>93486226That's the fun part, you don't, it's all, au naturel, the clothes/armor just appear or become modified.
>>93486240>the only batman who doesn't have a no killing rule is the live action movies ones.The early Batman comics also didn't have a no killing rule. The no killing rule came about due to censorship later in Batman's run that all comics had to go through.
>>93486238>>93486250>>93486254>>93486256>>93486247>>93486257What the fuck is happening right now?
>>93486247>>93486257Nta but the early batman didn't have a no gun rule either.
>>93486266Wdym?
>>93486247Snyder one certainly doesn't.
>>93486277Nah he's just paralyzed for life. No Lethal!
>>93486254It's very hard to be villainous when you've received so much love that it's turned you into a swollen cum balloon.
>>93486266Evil women are hot. Just accept it.
>>93486282He also doesnt make sure they get help after, that dudes dead just slowly.
>>93486285Or coherent.>*sip in Milia's fate in Gaia Chaos* >>93486286He's just being tsundere about it.
>>93486285Thats a weird way to say pregnant.
>>93486286You're right. I'm sorry.
>>93485957>Batman is the only one with the no gun rule and he only applies it to himself.Also the Lebanese Green Lantern, he kept a gun on him as a sidearm in case his ring failed, and Batman explicitly forbade him from operating in Gotham as long as he had the Gun on him.
>>93486303NO LETHAL!
>>93484537>apply the Voice of the World system to previous powers you have>Have sex>Die
>>93486247>And the original comics onehe got his no kill rule less than a year after his comic debut, shortly after Robin was introduced.
>>93486310If you make Miquella into a cum balloon, he won't get pregnant.
>>93486310That comes after. It's like saying that sowing the seeds is the same as harvesting.
>>93486356Except if you put an egg in him.
>>93486356Sounds like your cum isn't fertile enough. If you can't impregnate a mountain, let alone a femboy, are you even a man?
>>93486149Just read the PDFs.>are they all canon?The Drop-In ones are based on attempts to "build" characters on Nobilis.me, the others are yes.>>93486182Between 2-5 depending on how many you choose with Legacy.>availableTo a Nobilis/Imperator, yes.
>>93486385Thank you.
So. The Fae are bastards. That seems pretty consistent, right?Are there any Fae that, rather than just killing them all, need a good King or other tard wrangler to actually make them productive, good, and competent?
>>93484682>>93485620Unfortunately, all of this happened while I was asleep. From what I know of the lore (which is obscure on purpose, so you have to go digging for it) I can reasonably say the following:First, keeping their research in your back pocket might not be a bad idea. The Charities seem hell-bent on the idea that they're hard people making hard decisions, and that humanity will see that they were right in the end; it's implied that they're preparing for a future threat to humanity as a whole that they believe that only they can stop/prevent.Secondly, not everyone in AGLAIA is completely irredeemable. Angelica's stood against the rest of the board before, angling for "Hey, even if this is necessary, can we maybe do it a little less hilariously immorally?", and Dr. Wickeline is fundamentally a victim: She was a first-generation test subject who signed on with AGLAIA both to ease the pain of other test subjects and to try to finish the work as quickly as possible so that everyone can be released. Also she's almost completely insane due to trauma. Both of them could probably be persuaded to surrender themselves to tradition justice rather than having to be cut down.Thirdly, and this is something Shard didn't address in his build: Some of the people that AGLAIA blackbagged (Jackie jumps out here, but there are others) are genuine threats to society in one way or another and absolutely should not be returned to civilian populaces under any circumstances.Fourthly, their research into ARCH Cells and Cellular Reconstruction is a pretty neat early-chain healing factor/resurrection kit. Even if you think the research is tainted and don't want to use it, though, Hyperloops and cool and fairly innocent.I look forward to your build, though! I always enjoy builds, they're great motivation to keep working on my jumps.
>>93486410It's more like they got their own alien concept of morality... and are also bastards.
>>93486054>>you made the Hyperion Cantos jump>Made a jump for a powerful setting including such expensive options that powerwankers still cry >>you offered the option of being a being greater than a god in neverending story>offered canon background that has tons of inherent weaknesses and drawbacks despite being powerful>>you made the flatland jump>offered OP hyper dimensional option at high price that is canon to the setting I don't get the criticism here>but most likely because you respond to shitposters like that anonAh, yeah. That'll do it
>>93486410No, not really. The idea that fae are all bastards is ironically just as inaccurate as Disney-fied they're all benevolent. There were plenty that were basically just people or minor trickster spirits.
>>93486314What else would taking the Index perk let you do besides become a Magic God?
>>93486447NTA, but a lot of jumpmakers wouldn't even offer that shit. Of the jumpmakers here, I doubt anyone but Shard or Psycho would have done so. Being a powerwanker is relative. Compared to redditors and SBers? Obviously he's not. Compared to someone like NuBee? You could definitely argue the point.
>>93486410>Shakespeare Fae>Fate Grand Order (the Fairy Knights plus Coral and that fairy named Hope)>Exalted Raksha (if you steal their heart grace)That's all I can think of, most fae in fiction suck
>>93486410Not all of them, but their sense of morality has always been portrayed as alien. Some of them are just benevolent tricksters, some others are just assholes that want to ruin shit.>>93486467You have enough magic knowledge to basically scan and reverse engineer near every spell or magic nonsense that happens. Can guide others with that knowledge and help generate countermeasures. Also by knowing how a magic spell works you usually also know how to disrupt it or undo it. On the opposite side of it, you can use the knowledge in there to boost spells or create magic stronger than it normally would be.
If I were to kidnap some Skaven infants and raise them to be sane, rational, and compassionate beings without them ever being exposed to natural Skaven culture or influence-even blocking off divine/mystical influence from reaching them-would they grow up to NOT be evil? Or are the Skaven just outright ontologically evil?
>>93486410The ones in Gargoyles are unironically fine and self-policing. Well, their king does most of the self-policing and he was also the one responsible for exiling them to Earth. Really most fae problems boil down to Oberon losing his shit. When he's chill the Children of Oberon are actively relatively good neighbours for a group of hoighty-toighty pure magic beings that were worshipped by mortals once and continue to look down on them. They have a very strict self-isolation policy which also has some convenient loopholes they mostly use to make life easier for everyone (including themselves), to the extent Puck was only allowed to keep hanging around Xanatos in his mortal butler guise.Likewise, the People in Artemis Fowl are...first world nation-tier, that's how I'd put it. And Aisling from The Secret of Kells is both a cute and the last survivor of her clan (Crom Cruach isn't one of her people)>>93486417>Some of the people that AGLAIA blackbagged (Jackie jumps out here, but there are others) are genuine threats to society in one way or another and absolutely should not be returned to civilian populaces under any circumstances.So uh, about the fact that I was screaming in Primordial/Solar Charms when I told everyone to leave: Those included Magnanimous Warning Glyphs contingent on things like "don't contravene any public order laws I make when I inevitably take over your world" so that the moment they stepped out of line, they get melted by cosmic radiation into a delicious and nutritious nutrient paste. There's a thing Malfeas (and therefore, Theion. Or Golden Theion) can do, brand anyone who surrenders (even untruthfully) with a glyph of green hellfire that burns them painfully if they ever betray him. >>93485733I designed my own, yeah. Just pumped Wishing Heart energy into Sei Ki until it became Hokuto no Ken-tier.>>93486531Theoretically. At least, right up until the Horned Rat (or the Great Horned Rat in AoS) starts influencing it.
>>93486556>even blocking off divine/mystical influence from reaching themSo there's a CHANCE I can have civilized Skaven?
>>93486528Is the OTB becoming a great author and write a story so good about yourself that the phases turn you into the phictional character, while using autohypnosis to mantain your ego?
>>93486570In the sense that there is a chance a lone Lizardmen could fight his way through Chaos and survive more intact than Malekith was when Teclis jettisoned him there and he had to crawl back to reality under his own power. Which is to say as unrealistic, unsustainable and against all the odds of the setting it is, it has happened at least once before.https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Skabbicus(Games Workshop used to remember Warhammer and 40K could be funny settings)
>>93486531Maybe? Who knows? Just keep them from ever getting exposed to Warp Stone. It might be a nice experiment though. IRL rats are very compassionate creatures and are even capable of empathy and group prioritization (to an extent) so it might be interesting to see. Just be careful to end up recreating the Norwegian Rat Experiment
>>93486531There's a scenario for that.
>>93486556>So uh, about the fact that I was screaming in Primordial/Solar Charms when I told everyone to leave: Those included Magnanimous Warning Glyphs contingent on things like "don't contravene any public order laws I make when I inevitably take over your world" so that the moment they stepped out of line, they get melted by cosmic radiation into a delicious and nutritious nutrient paste.Fair enough. I'm still mildly surprised you didn't pick up the autistic chess waifu while you were there, and morbidly curious as to what could actually persuade Battler to actually pop Bottomless Pit, since you picked it up-- and what new perspectives (and/or psychological trauma) he might gain from the temporary separation (and inexorable reintegration) of Battler the ordinary human and Battler the all-consuming cosmic tyrant.
>Psykers have a strong presence in The Warp. >Nulls have no presence in The Warp. >Blanks have an inverted presence in The Warp. Do you think it'd be possible using some OCP soul manipulation to wrangle a 40k creature's soul so it's contained to its physical self? I.e. it'd have a soul but no presence in the Warp, like a null.
>>93486633>inverted presenceThe hell does that mean?
>>93486645Where there would be Warp-stuff, there's a Warp-void.
>>93486653Shouldn't that make them easy to be noticed?
>>93486645Basically it reads as negative. If psykers are +(x) in strength than blanks are -(x). Don't think to hard about it.
>>93486672I think I'm thinking too hard about it already.
>>93486017Funny thing about an army against Scholar is that not only they need to get past a high level gift defense, but that every time they attack you a Noble-tier miraculous being spawns to fuck them up. >>93486668Blanks are noticed because they are a void and they also fuck up everything warp related. Pariah-level blanks are almost always killed by their parents or those in their community because their 'wrongness' aura is too strong.
>>93486571No. Also transcends are backed up by secret chiefs.
>>93486668Blanks are very easy to notice: Their psychically-consumptive presence and possible lack of a soul makes them instinctively uncomfortable and unnerving to be around for normal people, and actively painful for psykers. There's a whole branch of the Officio Assassinorum in 40k dedicated to weaponizing powerful Blanks, such that their mere presence is enough to send sorcerers into agonizing, gibbering madness.
>>93486417 (me)Oh, before I forget: While I was on hiatus for a couple months, I got some google notifications asking for editor access to the Eternal Return jump. This is the kind of thing that I instinctively ignore, but if it was one of you guys and there were good reasons for it, DM me on QQ and we can discuss it.
>>93486645No soul. A void. (Not to be confused with the Aethyric Void, which is a deeper level of the astral plane than the Warp itself that so far only the Age of Sigmar crew have discovered.>>93486633Also isn't that one Perpetuals basically are? At least, that's what I vaguely remember Kanons fluffing the explanation for taking both the Blank and Psyker perks in his old Imperium jump.>>93486621I'll be totally honest. I was so infuriated by the sheer inefficiency of the entire project that I just sent everyone home out of disgust with what a waste of resources the whole thing was.>to actually pop Bottomless PitThere's this New Gods comic where against all reason and logic, Darkseid builds a machine that lets him violate and become one with the Source itself. Whether a drawback inner enemy or, I dunno, something on the level of Naraka from Aditya (it's the prequel to Dies Irae about the first version of the universe and the inexplicably horrific identity-eating monster that thinks of Hadou Gods as kiddie meals) using his gimmick, I would use this perk like the p53 tumour suppressor gene for fiat-level cosmic assimilation to confuse whatever's trying to integrate into me by having my overself vanish-and leave them stuck in a confused, practical but introverted dude that occasionally goes ballistic in response to metaphysical trauma. Just confuse the shit out of them. And at the exact moment they decide to kill my lesser self out of frustration-strike back from outside time and space, literally burning the persona with a Demon the Descent Exploit of my own design to suddenly pop back at full power, every transformation up and armed to kill.
>>93486731>his old Imperium jumpYou mean the one that lets you summon the Viator of Nullspace? Not sure I'd take that as a source for anything in canon.
>>93486700>>93486703>>93486731Ahh, that make sense. Thanks.
>>93486752That one, yeah. That was pretty weird. Still IIRC I believe the logic was less that Perpetuals are Blank/Psyker hybrids and more that Perpetuals can control their Warp presence enough it's a non-issue for them....since I took that perk, I should bullshit some reason to relate it to the Exalted/Worm crossover jump someone else is making.
>>93485573One day he's almost dying, the next he's back to acting a retard. That's the difference.
>>93485573It's more the opposite, he, as always, claims everyone he argues with is a shitposter because they disagree with him, while he doesn't bring arguments.
>>93486702But Alice is the firstest, strongest, and bestist tho."If Alice wanted, she could have changed the world you see before you in any way she liked,” said War God Othinus from his shoulder. “The consulate in District 12 is a good example of that.”“I thought the other Transcendents made that.”“You need to assume Alice can do anything the regular Transcendents can. In fact, her version is probably the original.”“What do you mean by that?”“Did you really think the Bridge Builders Cabal members created that divine cosplay spell all on their own without any hints to work off of? Remember, these are the people who abandoned their magic names and relied on someone else because they knew they could never achieve their goals themselves. …You can think of the regular Transcendents as custom products created by taking the open-source Alice Anotherbible and tweaking the details to fit their preferences. Where Alice came from, I couldn’t tell you.”Othinus spoke harshly, but she was that way about everyone on Earth.In fact…“Hm? I don’t sense much scorn in your voice there, god.”“Because I have no real reason to feel scornful,” readily replied the real god.This wasn’t about what was correct. They simply used different methods. She spoke like a living national treasure of a dancer appreciating the younger people in a phone video who were simply enjoying moving their bodies.Apparently that was analogous to the one-eyed girl who had gathered faith and polished her skills until she became known as a god and the Transcendents who had chosen various gods and dressed up as them.
>>93485573Baiting nothing. I was happy when I heard he died.
>>93487000Alice sexoAlso kinda funny how othinus would reverse rape Touma if she got her original size back
I've never had the ability to whistle, and that makes me exceptionally envious of people who can. What jumps have perks that could explicitly grant me this fairly mundane ability?
>>93487044Grimm fairy tale.
>>93487044>I've never had the ability to whistle,How? Do you have a cat-lip or something?
>>93487059NTA and no idea what that means, but I can only kinda-sorta mimic a whistle while inhaling
>>93487044>>93487059NTA, but I just never really tried. I just kind of spontaneously developed the ability over the last few seconds, though.
>>93487059I don't know. There's nothing visibly wrong with my mouth. But no matter how many times the process is explained to me, my mouth just can't produce that sound. My best guess is that there's just something fucky with the muscles in my tongue stopping me from curling it in just the right way.
>>93487031Impossible, Touma instinctively Imagine Breakers away any situation where he could have a sexual encounter.
>>93487078Whistling can be done with both inhaling and exhaling. Its easy, let me help.First, take a deep breath in and out. Do it a few times and get a feel for how much force and pressure the breath has. When you whistle you should be using a breath of that intensity, maybe slightly less. Next, hold your lips into a firm circle. not too tights, just enough to feel a little give in your lips when you blow in and out, and make sure your lips are curled inwards and not trumpeted outwards.Next, lift your tongue up slightly and start moving it around back and forth in your mouth. As you lightly blow through your mouth, start moving it into different places until you get the sound you want. Higher pitches will see your tounge close to your teeth, while lower pitches will go deeper to the throught and maybe involve lowering your jaw more.>>93487107It might be that, or it could just be your putting not the right level of strenn on your lips/mouth. Or maybe you need to work the jaw some. Or you may just have poor breath control. Not everyone has decent breath control, but if you get to practicing your singing it can translate to having good control for whistling. Anyway try adjusting your lip tightness and breath control some to match your mouth better, maybe even jaw position some. Just keep at it and, barring some incredibly rare and almost unheard of genetic flaw, you should be able to figure it out.
>>93485582>haremDidn't start even, but my problem is that the list is so big that I need to optmize my waifu acquiring. Which means I need harem perks, psychology, thereapy, etc.
>>93487201Boi I have the jump for you >>93487160Alice and Othinus will join hands to overwhelm IB and have their way with Touma.Anna got very close herself so they might use her expertise
>>93487218>Meanwhile Misaka is in the same room watching from her chair
>>93485582Jumper's maid is still looking for his first official wife.The one that will lead the nation and so on. Her standards are pretty high.
>>93487044>I've never had the ability to whistle, and that makes me exceptionally envious of people who canjust watch a youtube tutorial, that was enough for me to learn how to do it at age 23.
>>93487044It just takes practice, like I can't snap my fingers to save my life but I learned how to make wet fart sounds with my clammy hands after three days of practice.
If a jump have a magical space where spending 1 months inside equal 1 day outside. Alternatively, there’s also Fairy Tail celestial world where a day inside equal a month outside. Which would count toward the 10 years? The normal time or the alter down time
>>93487310I would say the time you experience, but do as it makes the most sense for your chain.
>>93487310I'd say an objective ten years, but its a single player imagination game
>>93487310Whichever takes longer.
>>93487310Your call. Stuff like that usually falls to personal houserules. I would say that the external time is what matters, since the whole point of having a set duration in a jump is so you'll at least be around for the main plot.
NTA, but are there any hyperbolic time chamber-esque options with no real time limit? Like rather than time being dilated, it's just stopped outright, allowing for an indefinite amount of training in an instant.
>>93487310External time. It's too open to abuse if the jumper has the ability to control jump duration by hopping in a time chamber.
>>93487356Time Locks from Halo Forerunner Saga?>The Forerunners have their own versions for putting things into stasis, as well as reverse time locks which can speed up the time within to such a level that millions of years pass inside as seconds pass outside. The time lock field is only about the size of a particularly large room. You receive two of these. The first is the traditional time lock like used by the humans. The second is a forerunner reverse time lock.
Why are water avatars just the worst?
What options are there for the power progression of a beast-master jumper, apart from just getting stronger beasts?
>>93486226>Evil = moneyIs that why the drop some when they die?
>>93487261This shit is impossible. So sick of whistlesplainers acting like anyone can do this
>>93487310Speaking of Fairy Tail. Alchemy is an alternate power system to magic that exists out there like the curses of Zeref's demons but it isn't mentioned once in the jump. Does the jump omit alchemy on purpose or am I supposed to buy it as a magic style for 100/200?
>>93487310Relative to internal time:>Can use as an escape hatch to leave the jump early and avoid interacting with the setting. >Gives jumper control over a meta element of the chain. >Still gives you 10+ years to train/relax/craft/study/etc. in peace. >Very unlike how most narratives handle the matter, i.e. as "free time" that lets the character take care of tedious tasks like training without taking out screen-time they could use to interact with other characters. Relative to external time: >Actually lets you interact with the setting. >Can theoretically be invaded or destroyed by enemies. >More similar to how it's used in most media. IMO, in terms of narrative and balance, external time is the clear winner. External time seems the most broken at first, but realistically a jumper can do everything with IT that you can with ET because either way you still have a shitload of relative time to use as you please. There are also likely to be limits to what you can accomplish by just adding more time without trainers and teachers, and you can't gain experience against intelligent opponents in a real-stakes scenario for the most part. Learning and training suffer from diminishing returns at some point, so you're not necessarily going to come out of every session with a massive power boost. If you only care about the advantage given to your jumper, the real gigabrained move is to take one of each (the original SCP jump rules the time chamber there works on objective time, so there's always at least one that works that way regardless of how you generally houserule it to work).
>>93487576The jump is older than the arc alchemy was introduced.
Jumps set in the 1980s? I want to get a hot 80s aerobic waifu.
>>93487310>>93487584 (me)There's also the fact that with subjective time, you can just have companions or followers use it and still reap most of the benefits of objective time. Especially if they have some form of memory transfer or teaching perk. Or needless to say if they're crafters, they can just make shit for you.
>>93487603>80s action>DC/Marvel>Captain NES>Danny Phantom with the drawback to start in 1984
>>93487603Stranger Things?
So how terrible of a idea is it to collect all the scarlet empress expys in the exalted jump as a deeb jumper? Thinking of doing that a bit but I'm sure it'd be a trainwreck and a half. Could be funny though.Especially if you think how they'd get along with each other.
How bad of an idea would it be to just gank Arthur in Sonic and the Black Knight and toss the Scabbard into your warehouse so Merlina can't get corrupted by it? It wouldn't give you the scenario reward but it would prevent the potential bad end situation.
>>93487618NTA, but you could also just send shadow clones into it.
>>93487630Each Scarlet Empress gets a seat on the Jumperland high counsel; alongside other fun characters such as Solars, Doctor Doom, and Gilgamesh.
What are some jumps with really versatile electric related powers? Something I could take from street level to high level shit. I would prefer not to become like living lighting with it though.
>>93487660>Scarlet Empresses>in the same room as Solars>and Gilgamesh>and no one's allowed to kill each otherI wanna see it
>>93487406improve your ability to buff them mid-battle through personal abilities or ever improving quality of battle items.learn to combine the monstes with yourself or each otheruse resources from other worlds to improve your beasts further, like teaching ki based martial arts to a lucario, replacing a steal pokemons outer layer with vibranium, having a rotom with some super tech items and the like.Generally just improve your tech to better interact with beasts like storing, cloning, transportation and the like.
>>93487676Prime Minister Doom has a tough job but definitely fits the role.
>>93487641But then YOU'LL get corrupted by it and that'll be a whole arc
>>93487673Have you considered becoming an Electric Type Pokemon? Otherwise in Pokemon Anime you could start out as a Human with Electric Type through esoteric perks, which can be combined with psychic/aura/body/magic perks for a lot more versatile uses of electric powers.Otherwise the obvious choice would probably be some magic/ki system where you can start out with and work yourself up, focused on lightning related abilities, like Naruto, Fate, Shaman King, Duel Monsters Shadow Realm, RWBY(through dust) and most Isekai settings really.
>>93487597But there was a member of Spriggan that used alchemy. The robot dude.
>>93487721I've got willpower perks, I can last long enough to toss it in the warehouse. Then that can be an arc in another jump when I pick it up later or a companion finds it in the do not touch pile!
>>93487673Toaru.
>>93487742Afaik Wall's alchemy is an ability of the machias, different from Golden crow's.
>>93487406Upgrade your bests by importing them to other jumps with higher power levels or just mere optionsImport your team from Pokémon trainer into Pokémon anime or radical red for example
>>93487406>Step 1: Go to Monster Hunter XXX and take The Menagerie companion option>Step 2: fight and defeat your own monsters to add them to the Menagerie>Step 3: import the harem into different places with power growth perksYou may not like it, but the only way to become a stronger monster tamer is to also be a monster hunter and monster fucker
>>93487673HxH Hatsu. Killua's started as something like a taser but he continually evolved the technique further.For similar reason lightning chakra in Naruto should have both low level and high level techniques.
>>93487406>apart from just getting stronger beasts?Well there's quality and then there's quantity. If the first one is ruled out the I hope you've got the balls for what it takes.
>>93487767God Monster Hunter's monsters are so cool. You really believe they can exist.It's a sharp contrast to the weapons and armors, who look really really cool, but are so dumb and goofy.
>>93487673Kashimo's amber beast summon, if you have a way to survive it.
>>93487809Monster Hunter truly best exemplifies the duality of man.Realistic monsters with well thought out ecology and world building to satisfy the autismos, CUHRAZY weapons and armor and combat to satisfy the weebs and non-autismos. Literally the perfect franchise
>>93487660Sounds fun.Am thinking Jumper eventually sets up a kingdom of there own out of the various properties that follow him eventually. Maybe hand out some land to other dragonblooded to.No solars though. there a bit to impossible to reign in as a dragonblood.
>>93487775NTA but did that anon ever release the dupe for HxH? Also did that other anon ever release his Kill La Kill dupe?
>>93487767Based and monsterpilled.
>>93487888The KLK dupe isn't finished yet but he posted his WIP once or twice. I don't have it saved but it should be in the archives. Don't recall seeing a HxH dupe, sorry.
>>93487888Reddt outsped in both.
>>93487888Cortex posted his WIP here >>92842375
>>93487919>trying to link to a two month old threadhttps://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/92834997/#92842375This what you want?
>>93487919Bruh.
>>93487928>>93487937Works fine for me but I keep forgetting not everyone uses 4chanx.
Jumper is visiting Marvel. How can he help out Spider Man and Aunt May without making it look like charity and pity?
>>93487956Give him a job.
>>93487956Arrange for Peter to get a well paid position with REALLY flexible working hours.
>>93487956Uplift the entire neighborhood Peter lives, like give everyone there $100,000 each or some shit and that way it'll be more like they won the lottery.
>>93487956What resources do you have available? Are you mid/late chain where you have multiple megacorps under your thumb or are you an early chain Vagabond?
>>93487834You also got to interact with the ecology a bit if you want to do... not anything, but at least a bit. And god it's believable The weapons are killing me, but they are also really cool, and I'm saying that as someone who mained Long Sword-a terrible idea-, Dual Blades-a idea but at least I did something-, before settling on Greatswords-and going "yeah I'm fine with this"- so I was relatively safe from looking at my weapon and going "What the hell is this", since it's always a different flavor a bonk, at worst, there's so spikes that shouldn't be there but are there anyway.And then there this motherfucker.https://monsterhunter.fandom.com/wiki/Carapace_Blade_(MHRise)
>>93487956Set up like a patreon or an onlyfans for superheros and put in alternate way to register for it without having to give up your identity, maybe like a vid of them proving it's them somehow, as well as a way to keep the payments to them secret and above board as well.
>>93487834It's the essence of mankind distilled, appealing to the deepest and monkeyiest parts of your brain all at once.
>>93487630Fucking do it nerd. Collect them all....there's an image edit of the names of the various empresses superimposed over the infinity gems, but fuck if I know where it is.
>>93487966Onlyfans?
>>93487956Mega-kill Mephisto.
>>93488001>>93488005I guess Pete is pretty ripped?
>>93487978Early chain, but jumper has one mega Corp from the jump. So a job is doable. >>93487960>>93487966Does he have a specialty? But a job can be easy.
I'm really looking forward to that new Dragonblooded jump, the stuff that anon was saying sounded really good.
>>93487991Have you considered out lord and savior the Insect Glaive? As one MH autist to another, its my personal go to weapon. Plus there's something immensely satisfying about leaping right over a Glavenus's big tail swipe before hitting on the head hard enough to break his horns. Plus most glaives look pretty reasonable as far as weapon designs go since they're basically just various spears and halberds with monster bits as decoration. Plus you get a cool pet bug that can stagger monsters!Lance and Bow are also acceptable options
>>93488001>>93488005I'd pay for Spider-Mans onlyfans.
>>93488005I want pictures of Peter Parker!
>>93487956Just fucking give them the money and tell them, or at least Spidey that you really like what he's doing, that he's the kind of guy the world's need, that he's a good hero no matter what the world or anyone is doing or saying about it.
>>93488024Chemistry.
>>93488024Fairly certain he invents the webshooters himself in most continuities. Which I guess falls under chemical and mechanical engineering.
>>93488029But can it compete with big sword?
>>93487956Remove his powers, hand them off to some random minority to take his place, and then shuffle him and Aunt May away into the background somewhere that's not easily accessible or prone to crossover events. Retire him into a supporting character position where he can apply his genius to help other heroes but doesn't ever do anything himself.Unironically, and I'm being 100% dead serious, the best thing you could possibly do for Spider-Man is to make him not Spider-Man anymore. Being Spider-Man is the source of like 95% of Peter's problems. And as with every character in comic books: the less you can get the story to focus on his existence, the happier he will be overall.
>>93488049Maybe not, but being able to land your big dive attack is really satisfying. Also, being able to just play "the floor is lava" the whole time is fun even if your ground attacks are technically much better
>>93488029I wouldn't call myself an MH autist; I played three game... and didn't do much about them because the cycle of MH is just too much for me. that's a bit of a lie, I always did the middle to endgame before losing my motivationsPlus Multiplayer is a must have, and while I can pay for it, it's not something I should. Rarely, a few elitist told me to fuck off because I didn't have the optimized gears which isn't very nice but that's the risk of multiplayerIn any case, I've tried all the weapon types, and they didn't do much for me. They just didn't "click".>>93488049Big Sword isn't unga bunga, it's about knowing how and when to place yourself, how and when to attack, and not fucking up the charging attack when you actually go for the Unga Bunga. It's both a simple yet complex weapons, which is what made me like it.>>93488068I've always looked up to players who could jump in the sky, they would speed up the hunt by going on top of the big monsters while we hacked it below.
>>93488032>Hey Spidey,>I'm a mysterious tech ceo billionaire >I know who you really are and like the cut of your web>Allow me to be your financial backer and spend billions on cover ups to make your hero time easie>Manditory 6 weeks vacation a yearSomething like this? Is it better to go to him or send him a interview time so he shows up at jumper co?
>>93488128I don't think you need to tell him you know who he is since I think that would put him off initially.
>>93488028Thanks anon. I'll keep plugging away at it.
>>93488128I would go for an even blunter, honest approach, driving the point that he is a superhero and all, but yeah.
>>93488141You is a good anon.
>>93488029I love heavy bowgun myself. Line up a shot and just BOOMfeels so good
>>93488128>like the cut of your webCARLOOOOS
>>93487956Hire Peter Parker as a Scientist, tell him you recognize his Genius, give him his own Lab, with lots of funding and flexibility to work his own hours and hire whoever he wants, with little oversight.Not only will he be financially secure, not having to stress about cover stories and missing deadlines and the like, but he will also have resources to use for his crime fighting, being able to reliably make more secure gear and make stuff to help take out/cure villains of the weak. And you yourself can still benefit massively from Peter's Genius, from stuff he probably will figure out on the side. Dude has invented some pretty crazy stuff in hours before. So even if he only works a fraction of the time he's likely gonna be worth the investment.If you want you can also approach him "to get you in contact with spider-man" and then just offer to monetize his image properly, stuff like establishing a social media presence, making merch, sponsoring him and getting him sponsorship from others, maybe having him appear in some ads or as guest in podcasts and tv shows and the like, to help his public image.
As a side note since the dragonblood jumps on my mind I've run into a question a bit of trying to organize Origins. I got Drop in, Lookshy, The Realm and outcaste as origins but... should I make specializations like a martial artist or sorcerer and the like a secondary origin or just fit them in for general perks? Was thinking a second set as a specialty but I dont want to bite off more then I can chew.
>>93488213I'd say go with the general section, if you end up wanting to go for Secondary origins that wouldn't lead to any wasted work while if you start on the secondary origins and then decide it's a bad idea you'll likely have ended up doing a bunch of work that's hard to repurpose.
>>93488059nta, but there was that one elseworld story I liked where it showed how Peter's life would have been if he never got bitten by the spider.It's shown that he would have been home when the burgler broke into their house, and threw himself infront of Uncle Ben to take the bullet, with Ben surviving disarming the burglar and beating him up. Peter ends up crippled, needing to walk with crutches.Though this is also when his life turns around, as Flash Thompson impressed by his heroism, triest to befriend him, making him sit with the popular kids, give Flash tutoring and becoming his best friend, and properly dating Liz Allan. He still gets involved in Superhero stuff, as without a Spider-Man taking care of villains, Cindy Moon/Silk steps up, and Peter impressed by her seeks her out and offers to help her, making her gadgets that help her defeat villains and becomes her guy in the chair.
>>93488197>then just offer to monetize his image properly, stuff like establishing a social media presence, making merch, sponsoring him and getting him sponsorship from others,If you do that, can you sue JJ for slander when he writes bad stories about Spiderman? And in know someone makes dolls and stuff of him, does Spider Man not own the rights to his own image?
>>93488120>Plus Multiplayer is a must haveWhy? I played MHW almost totally solo. Heck, I only just went into multiplayer this past month to finally try my hand at the Kulve and Safi sieges. Monster Hunter is totally playable and decent to play as a solo player outside of sieges, perhaps some time running missions on your own with just you and your Palico may be a good idea
>>93488294It's not as fun though.
>>93488005Spider-Man could start a Patreon and become a millionaire instantly. Like, everyone in New York loves him.
>>93488294NTA but some people suck at the game and use multiplayer as a crutch. I personally far prefer solo play, but I know people like that who ask me to help them with hunts.
>>93488292>If you do that, can you sue JJ for slander when he writes bad stories about Spiderman?defamation laws in the US are pretty strict. You'd have to prove all his claims to be lies, prove that he knew them to be false and prove that the lies resulted in financial damages(like fewer people buying your merch and companies refusing to work with you, because of his claims), but assuming all that is done, yeah he'd owe Spidey a big payout.>And in know someone makes dolls and stuff of him, does Spider Man not own the rights to his own image?I am not that familiar with that kind of law, but from what I understand that the moment you start commercially using your trademark, you need to defend it to keep it, so it may not be considered valid if Spider-Man has been active for years without saying anything against it.
>>93488005Onlyfans takes a 30% cut, then after you take your cut as his manage, and taxes there wont be much left for him.
>>93488344I had fun, plus it felt great to have my 1v1 against a new monster, dudging around and getting hit uintil finally i have my "I get it" / "Moveset downlaoded" moment where I finally get the feal of the monster and then finally take it down. It feels so much more rewarding to fight a monster, get beaten down, before finally perfecting your strategy and getting to the point where you can reliably hunt a monster with no deaths and very few potions consumed.Then again, I play Glaive, which i feel is probably just uniquely made to be very good at solo play, since healing powders and extracts are surprisingly useful through many fights, so that's probably coloring my perception of solo play.
>>93488405NTA but every weapon can be good in solo play, though I'd argue that something like longsword is more solo play coded than anything else. Especially in Rise. Holy fucking counters batman.
From the Forgotten Realms Jump>Races>Your Race costs 100CP x CR of your Race if your Races CR is less than 1 round it up to 1. If your race would cost 100CP it is free.Would you say its okay to use racial templates? Like I want my jumper to start as Human Based Bone Create(basically an intelligent skeleton), which would have a CR of 1,5. Also would you just round this up to 2 CR making it cost 100CP or just keep it at 50CP?
>>93488213Keep them general perks and let us take one specialization at a discount.
>>93488292I believe slander is complicated because you would have to prove he published false information and prove he knew it was false, while also needing to provide proof of damages cause by it. Copyright would also be complicated, but more doable, you can trademark the Spiderman brand to include costume, spider symbol and his name.
>>93488253Thats reasonable. I think I'll do that for now. Thanks anon. Have a rough item description while I'm here.The manuals of power Volume I-The dragonblooded: -100Huh? You have something strange here jumper. A book describing creation and the lives of many of the books namesake as if it was a game. Not sure how useful this could be to you but perhaps it might be an interesting read or perhaps you'd want to play a game with your companions? Be careful who you show this to. A fair few within the immaculate order would call a book like this heretical and even outside it it may raise questions on where you got it.
>>93488428>RiseI really need to play Rise at some point
>>93488446Its a lot of fun, but honestly world feels better to me. The world and the monsters just don't feel as real in rise as they do in world. And while the additional movement and combo options are awesome and allow some really really fun gameplay it just doesn't feel as gritty to me. I would still say play it if you are a fan of the franchise. It is a good MH game, I just liked world better and find myself returning to it.
>>93488434I have seen many builds do that
>>93486380>fertile>cumAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>93488197>If you want you can also approach him "to get you in contact with spider-man" and then just offer to monetize his image properly, stuff like establishing a social media presence, making merch, sponsoring him and getting him sponsorship from others, maybe having him appear in some ads or as guest in podcasts and tv shows and the like, to help his public image.I'm fairly certain Kingpin owns spidermans image. He bought it from the wrestling match way back when, just to piss spiderman off.
Is there any reason not to just Kill Shigaraki right at the start of the jump in MHA?
>>93488607>his own cum doesn't get him mpreg to give birth to an assbabyNgmi.
>>93488620He plays video games.
>>93487673Frozen.
>>93488445Not him, but looks useful.>Be careful who you show this to. A fair few within the immaculate order would call a book like this hereticalEh, I’m sure the higher ups would be understanding about the text on pages 189 and 195.
>>93488652He was a LoL player. That's more reason to kill him, not less.
>>93488652I'm sure that there were plenty of other gamers who died during his bullshit.
>>93487956Hook him up with Gwen or his landlord's daughter rather than MJ. She might not have done anything wrong in that timeline but she is still tainted by association.
>>93488632VIRIL
>>93488616that is unique to the Ultimate Marvel Timeline, where Kingpin bought the rights and had a Spider-Man movie made.The real Spider-Man was even offered to play himself by the director(since they'd save a ton of money on special effects), but he refused after finding out he couldn't get paid without sharing his personal info.
>>93488001>onlyfans for superherosSounds like the plot of a Fred Perry comic.
>>93488652Deku should have picked up cryonic technology at some point
>>93488620Redeem him just to spite AFO.
What (relatively speaking) low power jumps have strong plot armor perks other than JJBA Part 1 and Generic Paranormal Romance?
>>93488778Generic erotic horror
>>93488778Is flow too high power?
>>93488813Yes, not by much but there is a much bigger problem in that the jump is pure cancer.
>>93488775I like the fanfic where he quits the league to become a streamer after having a chat with fire ice boy about terrible parenting.
>>93488821The multiple god parent issue?
>>93488825NTA, but like most jumps from the author, everything in it is pure powerwank.
>>93488825That would be one of the big ones yeah, it's a pity I read Flow and it was pretty good but the jump is just. . . >>93488836I think he has at least one alright jump but the other stuff he has made taints them by association.
>>93488852I think the "least bad" jump he made was his Bleach collab with BLADE. X-Men Evolution, Flow, Sidekicks, and Record of a Fallen Vampire are all brimming with wank. Well, actually, Sidekicks was mostly acceptable except for the Triad Prana iirc. Has he even made anything else?
>>93488852People are remembered by their worst, and all it takes is one bad jump for everything else to be disregarded. Just like how people here hate dirge jumps so they assume all of his jumps are the same when in reality they can't name more than five jumps he might have made. Same thing with Beast, same thing with OAA, whoever else has been once labelled as the worst jumpmaker.
>>93488877I figured Evolution was his 'decent' jump, I don't think anything in that has ridiculous wank.
>>93488891Eh, fair enough. It does let you easily be a ridiculous character by the standards of the setting, but most of it is supported by the source material. Which puts it in the "not worse than a lot of /tg/ jumps" category.
>>93488891Perfect knowledge and control over all of your powers and a trainable exponential multiplier to your everything
>>93488620He did nothing wrong. You should join bakugo in telling deku to kill himself.
>>93488973I think he's responsible for the death of waifus.
>>93488973Bakugo himself is also just another piece of shit that should be put against the wall.
>>93488973Out of sheer spite, I'm going to make Izuku as overpowered as possible and train him to be a proper hero.
Out of apathy I am going to follow the stations of canon except to grab waifus unless I get nagged at by said waifus.
>>93489045Bakugo's just a dumbass kid who needs humbling, which is hard for him to ever get because the author thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
>>93488984No such thing in MHA. Everyone deserves worse. Especially deku>>93489045According to the author, bakugo was that coolest.>>93489077Not even all the power in the world could make him less shit>>93489089Which series??
>>93487676It may end like when he Ozzy meet. They each think that the other's haughtiness is actually praise directed at themselves and end up getting along by some miracle.
I could have sworn that someone recently asked about quirks of (old) jumps.
>>93489124>pic source? And is the whole series about a netori harem?
>>93488877>This guys best jump is the Bleach jump he made with BLADE>Meanwhile, said Bleach jump is one of the worse jumps BLADE has made.This is funny
>>93487630Found the imageFUCKIN DO IT NERD.
>>93489144An anon did, yes. But I don't think he got many replies.
>>93489124>picThese whores man.
>>93489124>picYou know, I almost feel sorry for Zect, but with that last girl, he kind of has it coming. Bro really chased after some girl, then dumped her once he got her. At that point, if she leaves you for another guy, you have it coming.
>>93489124Nta but I will never understand your criteria for who is a loser or a jobber and who isn't.
>>93484151Well, it's not mechanical, but something I've recently noticed is that's it's very rare for jumps to actually explain what the source material actually is. As in, something like "Jippity Crip is a traditionally-published novel released in 2018 by Fora Deez. It features a protagonist who...The book has been recently re-released with a foreword by renowned author Hackson Trine." Yeah, the intro usually makes most of the information redundant, but with some things (especially single-word titles like Pale), it can be hard to know if you've even found the right IP. It gets worse the more obscure something is.
>>93489124>PicWas this from that "dating your mom" manga where the dude dates all the moms of the party after getting kicked out?
>>93489183Ric doesnt really do logic
>>93489209Good point.
>>93489124>Which series??MHA and this cute creature. https://myheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/Nejire_Hado
>Who is a jobber, a loser, and Cvck?You.>Who is a beast, a winner, and a Bvll?Me.
>>93489242>Who is a jobber, a loser, and Cvck?>(You)
>>93489124Your pic is enough of an excuse to post this video again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8b2Aqunt5s
>>93489292I'm going to get the bard in Choice of the Dragon and make them sing this.
>>93489316>themOh, so they're a hive mind?
>>93488197>If you want you can also approach him "to get you in contact with spider-man" and then just offer to monetize his image properly, stuff like establishing a social media presence, making merch, sponsoring him and getting him sponsorship from others, maybe having him appear in some ads or as guest in podcasts and tv shows and the like, to help his public image.I just saw this twitter post, and thinking about this post made me imagine spider-man with a giant cheese wheel and such.
>>93489172Heh fair enough then anon. I'll get on it. Have a build for the start of that. Jumpers gonna use his resources and company as a cover to try and dig into the underworld and see whats really going on. Probably hire emily along the way as they figure out just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Probably gonna use Adorjan for where he's getting his yozi charm influences.Now which shard to hit up next... Jump 5:Exalted-The modern ageOrigin:Dragonblood+100Perks>Thousand forging dragon spirit:Free>Patriotic Exemplar exercise:Free>Mudra of the ideal politician:-150>Elemental Baptism reinforcement:-150>Transcendent evolution of gaian vitality:-300>Danmation-swallowing draconic resilience:-300Items>The road lion:Free>The Dragons hatchlings: [Use 100 points from stipend]>Elemental industries: [Use 300 points from stipend]Companions>Eternal sunshine of the scarlet destiny:-100
>>93489292Dammit I had suppressed this
>>93489365Here you go. https://youtu.be/82fR-6N0JQc
>>93486417I wasn't going to post a build but then decided to since you seemed to be asking for one, but now that I'm actually putting it together I have some questions about the VF ability section- it's the most difficult part of the build with a lot of moving parts.
Rolled 3 (1d6)1.Exalted: The dragonblooded2.Exalted the first age3.Exalted: gunstar autocthonia4.Exalted Vs world of darkness5.Exalted: Burn legend6. Exalted: Heavens reach
>>93488824Link?
>>93489124I'm reminding everyday:Transform Momo into a material factory.>picI feel horrible having read this, but it's also based to want to fuck milfs.>>93489159The Hero Took Everything From Me, So I Partied With The Hero’S Mother!Actually false advertizing, since the MC doesn't actually give a shit and only goes along with it because the moms want to.It's in a world where Japan's Christmas Cakeism is taken to the extreme. So when the MC convenienty stumble upon the main Milfs turned slave, he can buy (and free her thank fucking God) for dirt cheap.It's... okayish as junk food I guess.
>>93476425#21 - Mushoku Tensei>Drawbacks: >Age: 500>Starting Location: Fedoa Region, Central Continent>Background options: Swordsman, Dragon [600]Fantasy Attractive [Freebie]Delayed Limiter [Freebie]Leaky Limiter [400]Fighting Spirit [Freebie]Well Rounded [300]King Ranked [0]Adventurers Guild Registration Card [Freebie]Masterwork Weapon [Freebie]Dragon King Sword [Freebie, -300 item stipend]Jumper fakes being a Hitogami apostle and tracks Orsted just to sneaky sucker punch him and then teleport out. Also, probably help Bananahoshi to go back to Japan and become a proper soulless wageslave.
>>93489603Okay so it was the manga I was thinking of
>>93489448Shoot. It's also probably the most undercooked section due to its complexity; I try to try something new with each jump I build, so ER got (among other things) a custom power building section.The simplest way to think about it is that since ER is a battle royale/MOBA hybrid, you're designing a kit for you as a MOBA character, themed around whatever you took for Exceptionalism.
NuBee Bodymod: Adjustment, Cleansed, Sex (M), Rejuvenation, Grooming, Perfume x2, Aesthetics, Personal Tailor, Disinfect x2, Normality x2, Animal Physiology (Dog), Polar Bear Club, Homeostasis.I'm a shota dogboy, with long white hair/fur and tanned skin. Basically Ragnarok Online's Eleanor, but a shota. Ragnarok OnlineOrigin: Adventurer/Merchant. -100 900Drawbacks: Too Many Novices +100 1000Perks: Thrillseeker, Haggler, Homunculus Improvement -200, Call Slave -300, Transcendence -200, The Thirds -300. -1000 0 I've never played Ragnarok Online, as the tutorial was broken the one time I tried. Still, I did do some research when I did try, and I couldn't pass up the three tanned doggirl waifu/pets/summons, you know?Eleanors are rather bad at fighting groups, but their single target DPS is decent and I have three of them so I should be able to manage. My own Eleanors will be made from the Amistrs too, giving them tanking abilities as wellBayonettaOrigin: Detective, MPerks: How Did You?, Immaculate Hair -100, Summoning Sinatra -200, Summoning Singalong -200, Eyes of the World -500The Homunculi a player gets aren't exactly intelligent. They've got rather simple AIs that are honestly rather awful, requiring you to download better AIs from elsewhere to make them even somewhat useful. I didn't have an option to download a better AI and I didn't want to take the time to develop oneSo I'm going the simple route and picking up the boosted Summoning Sinatra so my Eleanors can learn over time on their own. This unfortunately means having to come to a setting that's rather significantly higher power than I like and has a plot that's virtually impossible to actually interact with, but it'll be worth it.
Do you ever make children with non-companion locals? Do you let them on your true nature before leaving?
>>93489678TerrariaOrigin: Hardcore, Summoner, CorruptionPerks: Inventory -200, Mana Battery -200, We Are Legion, Minion Master -50, Verisimilitude -100, Crack The Whip -150, You And What Army? -300. -1000 0Items: Standard Starting PackI wanted more Eleanors, so Terraria's next. The groundbound nature of the Eleanors means I won't really be able to actually beat the game due to almost every boss being able to fly, but I should at least be able to get a Flinx Fur Coat, giving me a total of ten EleanorsI'm going to settle down for a kinda comfy slice of life lifestyle since I can't beat the game, giving my Eleanors a good decade to develop proper personalities. They're doggos though, so their personalties are all going to be some flavour of happy, playful, and energetic. They're also specifically guard dogs, so there's going to be some doting big sisterness in them. I'm not sure how much of that is from them being guard dogs and how much is them realizing that I have a thing for doting big sisters
>>93489553Cheat code support strategist
>>93489732>TerrariaNever been able to finish this game. Get too bogged down in base building, then I find out or see a new thing, look it up on the wiki, then get obsessed and bogged down with trying to make some cool building with it, then i get burned out. never even beat the Mecha bosses. This seems to be a problem i have with base builder games like Terraria and Fallout 4.Also not sure when to fit it in my chain.
>>93489603Thank you anon. Something to laugh at when I'm bored then.
>>93489656Okay so let's take an example and use that as a talking point so I can understand things better.-300 - Active Effect[Offense/Utility] - Audit/Usability:+100VP(Channeling, Delayed)/Power;-200VP(Decisive)/Range;-200VP(Extreme)/Cooldown;+50VP(Extreme, Recharge)I am entering as a traitorous, because I plan on killing every one of my coworkers, member of AGLAIA, with the drawback of Wild Talent and Exceptionalism for Bureaucracy. This ability is intended to be themed around the concept of 'investigating someone's activities for errors' though the actual execution is still up in the air.I can have up to 5 different abilities? And they must be of at least one category of Offense, Defense, Utility, ect. but they can be multiple types if I pay an additional surcharge of 50 per. Correct? As my Exceptionalism is obviously support oriented, every one of my chosen abilities should have a utility function.How do Secondary Effects and Form Change differ in practice? I understand how they're supposed to work, one is additional functions and the other is a transformation where the abilities are swapped for something else, but how are they different in the way I build them? Does Form Change take up an Active ability slot?
>>93488620It's better to use him as bait to get All for One to come and get the shit kicked out of him by All Might.Then you can just strole into Jaku Hospital and steal all the Nomu prototypes and research
>>93489682>picSauce? Also yeah I've knocked up people who aren't companions before and yes I typically tell them I'm a multiversal traveler who will come back to visit.
>>93489644For better or worse.>>93489755Happy to help.
>>93489682Yes, often and frequently with them finding out my nature when they die as I've long since claimed their and my descendants' souls, so they pop up in my pocket plane.
>>93487767>MenagerieDoes this affect boss monsters from Undertale, or are they too humanlike?
>>93489748Nta but same, I never could do another world after my first one, because I like doing base building and making it somewhat coherent if not useful.Then there's the arena building for bosses.It's not hard, it's just time consuming, VERY time consuming.And I still didn't make Zenith because you need the Enchanted Sword, and my world doesn't have it, so either I fish which is cancer, but have to do to make the super Acc whatever, or go to another world.
>>93489682Accidentally, yes.
>>93489635Really need a better jump.Also.>not going on a planetar war against Hitogami spreading a lot of war crimes, death, suffering, corruption and terraforming in the processWeak.
>>93489782One Shot for Ruri Dragon before it got serialized dragon dad has not appeared in the manga yet.
>>93489854Hitogami is cool in my book. He just wants to help people. Meanwhile, that evil dragon god just wants to end the world!
>>93489870>Hitogami is cool in my book. He just wants to help people.wut
>>93489819>It's not hard, it's just time consuming, VERY time consuming.But you only really need to build one?
>>93489896Come on, don't be that guy.
>>93488778Princess Bride. There is a perk that makes it so no one kills you in cold blood.
>>93489870Hitogami was the coolest. He was the true hero of the world. Shitty dragon with his shitty followers ruined everything
Wow, it's already the third time Ric start shitposting in the same thread.
Rolled 4 (1d5)So the chains continuing on. And Jumpers in... well some more hotwater given this settings whole premise. Gotta find some way to help out even if you can't slay Gods directly so Jumpers gonna see if he can't find luna and gaia and try and convince them to return to the fold. Thats gonna take several years but it sounds like a good quest. He certainly didn't expect to companion them though. Thats... gonna be a issue maybe. Three dragonblooded, a incarnae and a primordial. That party feels a wee bit unbalanced if they two don't take a back seat approach but its bound to be interesting. Things are probably liable to spiral out of jumpers direct control if he's not careful. Rolling for next Jump of this... chain. Jump 6:Exalted-Gunstar AuthocthoniaOrigin:DragonbloodedPerks>Graduate of the major academy (The eight degrees of enlightenment):Free>Omni-directional attunement ability:-200>Sorcery:-300Items>Protoshinmaic vortext:-100>Contained Wyldstorm:-300Companions>Friends from another world:-50The scarlet empress (Pilot):-50Scenarios>Finding the Lost1.Exalted: The dragonblooded2.Exalted the first age3.Exalted Vs world of darkness4.Exalted: Burn legend5. Exalted: Heavens reach
Man the more I think about it the more I realize I need to come up with a standardized plan to uplift regular Earth or Earthlike jumps and unify it for how many times this issue crops up.
>>93489968It's like the fifth one.Get it rightLike 40% of the thread is me talking to myself. Half the anons here are me.You can't even imagine the power I hold
>>93489896You need one for Skeletor, another huge one for wall of flesh, another for the plant one and another for Cthulhu. That said they are fast to build, except the Plant one, this one is shit and you keep getting hit by bees during it. Either way it's fine as long as you are listening to something in the background, the annoying thing in Terraria is containing the corruption.
>>93489986I'm honored to have been declared the nemesis of such an important member of the community, and not even for having started the discussion wich made him have an aneurysm.
>>93490003Our battle will be legendary
>>93489956Hitogami is a bitch who needs to trick others into doing his dirty work.
>>93489986Take your meds unironically. Your waifu production must not fall.>DADNR captcha
>>93489956Ric no.>>93490017He's actually interesting as a bitch, because when you know how he work, you realize that's what he always does, work. Work work work and work. Like a bitch yeah, but work. Just to be in control.
How dangerous would it be to stay in Courage the Cowardly Dog?
>>93489990I suppose. I tend to mainly think of my main fighting area when I think boss arena. The rest is just lots of platforms. But that#s subjective, I guess.
>>93486556>(Crom Cruach isn't one of her people)Crom Cruach ATE her people to be more precise.
>>93489976pick one ethnicity or nation, then give them superpowers. It cant go wrong.
>>93490037It’s more spooky than dangerous unless you deliberately fuck around with the obviously shady folk. Remember to go to the diner that’s owned by a pig, they make good burgers.
>>93490017>>93490036You're right I fuckin hate hitogami. Piece of shit that ruins everything.>>93490021I don't want to take my meds. They make me sleepy
>>93489976Vylon perkline. Unite the world against you.
>>93490072take your actual meds pls.
>>93490111No trips, they make me sleepy
>>93485448It's funny how Fleetwaynic is the biggest asshole and Movie Sonic is the only one who can and will murder you with zero hesitation.
>>93489976Teleport people into a bunch of McKendree cylinders randomly, but keeping families together, and have universal translators installed subdermally into all of them. Then just use something like the rapid learning tools, I like the ones from Demolition Man personally, to rapidly improve the knowledge base. There will be chaos for a while but you can just teleport criminals into space as their commiting the crimes. Give it a couple years and people will have adapted to their new norms and the majority of the chaff will be dead.
>>93490109Nta, but if jumper just flash terrafored the moon, Mars and Venus, would it start a space war? If jumper decided to offer a new planet to each country how many would accept? No new infrastructure, just dropping the current country down transplant style.
>>93490123They are for your own good. And if they make you sleepy, that's a price for good health.
>>93485380Silver is Galahad in Black Knight, though he only shows up in multiplayer mode.
>>93490134>would it start a space war?I don't think anyone currently has a ship that can make it to the moon, and building one is going to take time.Under that assumption, it would probably be more effective to bomb the other countries before anyone gets into space, rather than attacking them afterwards.
>>93490134They would all accept a new planet, it's stupid you even need to ask if they would accept it. It would probably start a war for the moon, Mars and Venus would be once the moon is setup given the distance and travel time involved. That's not to say there wouldn't be a couple ships sent so they can try and plant a flag to claim ownership, just that no one would accept that and there wouldn't be any mass movement towards them early on. It'd be much easier once the moon is set up to use as a springboard given the lower gravity. Venus would be the preferable planet over Mars though given how earthlike the conditions will be when compared to Mars. Also it doesn't need some kind of long term planning due to one of it's moons slowly but inexorably falling towards the planet.
Hey Shard in ER, what the fuck is up with the thing Latenna does where she just puts herself in your inventory as a spirit?
>>93485884>Huh. I'd question why they're so...quiet and why Eggman doesn't have his own human extremist nation or something. Because Eggman doesn't give a shit about people. This is his most consistent character trait, that he thinks people are expendable and worthless and that only his 'flawless' machines matter. This got to the point that even in Archie, he viewed all the Overlanders (the mutated descendants of humanity post-gene bombing) as being equally expendable and ultimately meaningless in his pursuit of dominating all life, despite 99% of Overlanders hating Mobians.
>>93490127>Movie Sonic is the only one who can and will murder you with zero hesitation.Sonic agreed to murder King Arthur 20 minutes after meeting him and Merlina
>>93490202Game Sonic saw the dudeznd he was a giant spooky armored demon man. Game Sonic is perfectly willing to kill demons and monsters with zero hesitation but generally doesn't try to kill people intentionally. Wachowski doesn't care who or what you are, he'll go for the throat even if you're a regular squishy human that CAN'T survive a supersonic punch through the skull if he believes you're totally irredeemable.
>>93489769Yes, you can split your VFP across up to 5 abilities, 4 active and 1 passive, with each having at least one type. Your math is mathing, as well.For a couple examples re: Secondary Effect vs. Form change:Adela's powers revolve around summoning and attacking with her chess pieces, which synergize with each other and allow her to prepare ground for favorable fights. Her Castling ability lets her throw out a Rook in a straight line to cause damage while also reactivating her Pawns for extra hits. Once it's out, though, she can recast the ability to swap places with her Rook via teleportation as a Secondary Effect: You'd build both powers separately (Offense/Utility for the attack, Mobility/possibly Defense for the teleport, idr if it actually buffs her) and then add their costs together as if they were one ability.Irem has a Form Change, because she's a catgirl that can shapeshift into a literal cat: Her human-form abilities are completely separate from her cat-form abilities, so she pays 50 VFP to turn one of her abilities into a toggle to swap between forms (her passive IIRC) and then gets to split her VFP across 9 abilities (8 active and 1 passive) instead of 5.
I know Darksiders is one of our oldest jumps, but how does it still hold up?
>>93490239So Form Change is an ability in an of itself with its own attributes? So it would have necessarily have the typing of Offense or Utility or whatever, and also have a Power and Range and Cooldown? I guess it would always have Self range since it's a transformation.
>>93490258It's not bad, I think the actual Nephilim drawbacks are a tad annoying but they fit the in setting lore and do make sense from that perspective. The Maker stuff is pretty nice and normally what I go for just to avoid those drawbacks. I think one of the swords is locked behind a drawback which is another annoying thing, not read it in a while so might be wrong, but that also kinda fits in setting. It's perfectly jumpable, always has been, and doesn't have any of the other sillier things some of the older jumps have, like the Fallout and Alien blanket power restrictions from back when there was an attempt at keeping you from just shitting on a setting from the get go with all the OCP stuff a jumper would have.
>>93490258I always go Maker there and those perks are still solid.
>>93488002>picI'd be tootin' the doots too if the World version of the theme was playing where I could hear it... at least if I could get over the PTSD of the first few encounters where I had no idea how not to get bodied in 20 seconds or less by that thing across 3 games and counting now.
>>93490274Form Change is an Effect attribute applied to one of your abilities for 50 VFP, which lets you have up to 4 additional abilities and swap between sets when you use it.Estelle's transforming shield is weirder, edge-casier example: Activating her shield barrier and then charging with it on recast would normally just be a Secondary Effect, but it also changes another one of her abilities when she does so (turning her shield slam into her AoE water spray), so it counts as a Form Change and she pays an extra 50 VFP for having 6/7 abilities instead of 5.
>>93490123You had a fucking stroke. Take your meds you petulant child. Fucks sake you are both older and more educated than me how are you this retarded?
>>93490378Education does not equal wisdom.
>>93490378>had a fucking strokeIntelligence and wisdom have been debuffed
>>93490376Ah okay
>>93490390It should
>>93490378Shut the fuck up Gohan poster
>>93490407Believe me, I appreciate you digging into the meat of it and testing it for me; Shard's the only one (that I know of) who's posted a build for the jump anywhere, and he kind of just earmarked CP for having VF but put off going through the builder. If you have any suggestions on how I can rewrite things to be clearer, feel free-- I put the example sidebar in at the end of the section since I knew it was going to be complex.
>>93490464I'm not Gohanposter. Why would you even jump to that conclusion?
>>93490465 (me)(typos in this sidebar have been noted and earmarked for the next update, whenever I get around to that)
>>93490464Seriously are you having a stroke right now or are you just acting retarded for fun?
>>93490464>>93490476They're not meds, they're sleeping pillsRic knows he's going to get TRAPPED and BETRAYED by his doctorNo but for real Ric actually take your meds, I prefer you being alive
>>93490464My dear Italian friend, please listen to the other anons, I've had recent family members die from strokes, so please take your medicine. You were given a God given chance at life and avoided the Reaping Angel. Please don't waste it Ric
>>93490476>>93490512You two use the same words, look the same, sound the same, you can't fool me.Those fucking pills are poisoned rrigg? I know your game. You want to kill me Gohan poster. Buy I won't diem.i refuse.I won't let you kill me and rteal my organs. You're a fool>Captcha:G4YTS
>>93490555Go home Ric, you're drunk.
>>93490555Gohanposter is a known namefag defender tho
>>93490555I mean if you want to die then more power to you but if you dont then maybe lay off.
You think someone with Life Return/Seimei Kikan in One Piece with medical knowledge could use their control over their body to regrow organs/limbs?
>>93490465Personally I would suggest constructing a table like a spreadsheet with fill-in-the-blank areas for all of the different categories, and separate out all of the misc additional stuff into another section? Part of my confusion was the way it was laid out in list format. I'm pretty sure that's a thing you can do with MS Word
>>93490555You are being absolutely ridiculous. Stop drama whoring and go take your meds rather than making baseless accusations that I'm a prolific shitposter.
>>93490555Wait no, do not take your meds. They are evil meds. Totally bad for you.
>>93490555Ric if you've been drinking don't take your meds (alcohol and pills don't go together), but if you haven't, then take your medsYou had a stroke my guy
>>93490555Are you okay Ric?
>>93490555Please don't scare us, Ric. Take your medicine.
>>93490587That might work, if I can visualize what it'd look like. I originally based it off of a power builder in another jump, but it's been so long now that I don't remember which one it was.
>>93490555
>>93490555You know who else doesn't take their pills? The French. You don't want to be like the French, do you, Ric? Take your pills.
>>93490586I wouldn't think so anon, if that were true then he would be almost invincible and wouldn't have lost because of his hurt leg
>>93490555Ricrod of the vast majority most people here care about you if you have been drinking booze right now don’t take the pills, if you have not taken booze you should be taking them NOW as you sound like something is not okay right now. If you need to take a break for awhile we will understand just let us know if you do so. I don’t want to lose another friend like SJ and at this I can at least do something.
>>93490672I would suggest looking at the Nanoha jump, the way it's designed is pretty good.
>>93490690I mean, Rob Lucci could very likely have healed himself and restored his stamina if given access to enough food to use as resource, like Kumadori does. As he wasn't crippled or anything like that.I am just thinking of taking it a big step further.I am not suggesting to use it to regrow body parts mid battle, but more to use your direct control over your body and anatomic knowledge to make the right cells grow what they need to in the right way to regrow them over time.
>>93490740>I am not suggesting to use it to regrow body parts mid battle, but more to use your direct control over your body and anatomic knowledge to make the right cells grow what they need to in the right way to regrow them over time.Then I think that would be fine then anon, though it would be far from fast
>>93490555I was half joking originally but you probably should take your meds and lay off the internet for a while.
I've never played Chrono Trigger, but I'm curious. What exactly is Lavos?
>>93490792Alien living in/connected to/controlling a bioship in the form of a giant spikey tick that burrows into a planet's surface, guides the evolution of life on those planets, absorbs these growths and evolutions, and then eventually emerges and harvests the world its on, draining it of life and producing spawn who will repeat the cycle. Can potentially become a time eating eldritch abomination if you count Chrono Cross as canon, which a lot of people don't like doing because it's a huge middle finger to the cast of the original game, killing them all off and making it so that their efforts were meaningless.
>>93490831I always fealt chrono cross was just lavos splitting off a couple timelines of its own to fuck off too.
>>93490555Ric, if you've been drinking don't use the pills. If you HAVEN'T then put the fucking computer down and go take your meds you moron.
>>93490465Another question, are Channeling and Delayed also locked for Continuous abilities, like how Cooldown doesn't apply?
>>93490792Time-fucking alien parasite with a multilayered body that goes from shell to false core to two additional false cores and finally a central nucleus that controls all of the above. It moves from world-to-world, nurturing the evolution of life on each victim planet through its overwhelming levels of mana for the sole purpose of a richer harvest then emerges when the time is ripe to reap it all and birth spawn who will disperse and continue the cycle of destruction on new worlds. Unfortunately for it, the planet in Chrono Trigger is an eldritch abomination in its own right and is fully capable of playing grabass with timelines to set up circumstances that will lead to Lavos' downfall.>>93490878No, Lagos actually fucking died. It just got sent to the End of Time, which is where people and things who are erased from time are sent, basically the dumpster of the Chrono Trigger/Cross multiverse. It got sent there along with all the people who were never born, every decision never made, etc. Lavos being what he is adapted to that but also fused with Schala which not only enabled it to feed off of all the dead timelines, the nonexistent histories, the people who never were and so on, but infused it with a genuine ill will to see the entire multiverse unmade to make up for being slaughtered by its own cattle.
>>93490181Not Shard, but unreturned spirits willfully joining you is something that happens quite a lot in Elden Ring. Latenna is obvious. But there are also a variety of bosses who join you after killing them as well, such as Tricia and Hugues. It's not like they're slaves, after all. They join and fight with you of their own accord and can even think and take proactive action on their own. For example, Roderika tells you that Aurelia the Spirit Jellyfish would "be glad of your company" and a few others are noted to have relationships with you. The Wings of the Storm, Oleg and Engvall, swear their loyalty to you after death. Likewise, Bloodhound Knight Floh is implied to have acknowledged you as the true master he failed to find in life.The Tarnished is actually leading a ghost army by the end of the game. Which is pretty funny when you think about it in lore terms.
>>93491057What perk would even cover that?
>>93490591Did you just call Gohanposter a fucking shitposter?
>>93490935They probably should be, yeah. I tried thinking of a counter example in Irem's passive (she has a memorable kit), where she gains buffs after being in a single area for a certain period of time, which would qualify for Channeling, but that's also Triggered rather than Continuous.
>>93491076Well, he does frequently post pics and edits of Gohan.
Do we have any King of Fighters/SNK jumps?
>>93491057Tiche cute! CUTE!
>>93491069Spirit TuningAshen Summonsand perhaps Divine invocation
>>93491121I don't generally use her much myself.Now, the new Dragon-faced cannon imp? He's an mvp summon
>>93491110Reddit does.Otherwise, you'll have to make it yourself.
What casino game would be best to scam with two dots of Entropy? My first instinct would be roulette but it seems like consistent wins on that would be fairly obvious.
>>93491076He's right.
>>93491140*In the oWoD Mage jump.
>>93491142Based on what?
>>93491135Taylew is the real MVP summon. That motherfucker is actually broken. He can solo the entire DLC with trivial ease if you have a single decent healing spell.
>>93491140How much money are you planning to go for? Slot machine jackpots can be pretty big.
>>93491206As much as I can get without it being obvious that I'm cheating, would two dots be enough to grab a slot machine's jackpot?
>>93491182I dunno, I tried him out against Consrot Radahn, and he just folded like an omelet. Plus if he ever gets hit in the back his health melts away.Then again I don't like using summons to face either human sized enemies or Bussy Supreme. The latter because the added defense summoning gives the boss makes it too hard for me to pass the DPS race against him. And the former because i feel like the added defense and changes in aggro ai makes fighting person sized bosses too inconsistent for me and makes it harder to get the timing right to get in good hits and staggers
>>93491057But like, they're not ghosts? Latenna is alive. That's what's confusing. It's like Elden Ring runs on pokemon rules and no one said anything
>>93491250No, Latenna is absolutely dead. She even states outright at the end of her questline that she will fight alongside you to the end and asks that you lay her to rest next to her wolf after it's all over.
>>93491218Regardless of the game and methods a casino is going to notice quickly if you're getting exceedingly improbable wins, so you're going to want to, at the very least, switch establishments between jackpots. As for can you rig a slot machine with Entropy ••, I'm not sure but considering dots per my understanding are more qualitative than a measure of power then if you could force a win in roulette with that then you could probably do it with slot machines too.
>>93491110We don't, but you can pick them up in Baalbuddy or with OCP if you hit the crossover toggles in most of our Capcom jumps.
>>93491250I mean, i always interpreted it as Latenna being already close to death after what Gideon and his operatives did to her and her wolf pet, so when you come to her with the medallion, she probably willingly gave up the ghost to become a spirit.Heck, if you skip her and go straight to Leyndell and then come back later you'll find her dead there in front of her shack.
Would Fate's Brahmastra be able to provide its own ammo if turned into a ranged weapon? Specifically a crazy sci fi weapon like a plasma gun?
>>93491094Vital Force: Manipulation-Type. 300 Choice Points, +1000 Vital Force Points, -450 Vital Force Points> -300 Vital Force Points: Active Effect[Offense/Utility] - Auditing/Usability:+150VFP(Triggered, Channeling, Contingent, Delayed)/Power;-100VFP(Major)/Range;-200VFP(Extreme)/Cooldown;-100VFP(Rapid)*Form ChangeUNFINISHED/Usability;+50VP(Secondary Resource)/Power;-50(Useful)/Range;-0(Close)/Cooldown;-0(Medium)> -150 Vital Force Points - Active Effect[Crowd Control/Utility] - Independent Review/Usability;+50VFP(Triggered, Delayed)/Power;-100VFP(Major)/Range;-100VFP(Long)/Cooldown;+50VFP(Extreme, Recharge)*Secondary Effect[Utility/Defense]/Usability;+50VFP(Triggered, Untargetable, Restrictive)/Power;-50VFP(Useful)/Range;-50(Medium)/Cooldown;+50VFP(Extreme, Recharge)*Form ChangeUNFINISHED/Usability;+50VFP(Secondary Resource)/Power;-50(Useful)/Range;-0(Close)/Cooldown;-0(Medium)Two of my semi-finalized ability ideas, tell me if this is appropriate please. The idea here is that you would use 'Independent Review' to tag anyone in a zone, with the Secondary Effect that if anyone marked comes too close to you while the ability is active, then they lose the ability to attack you. However, you're also likewise restricted from attacking them. Auditing is Contingent on having marked targets to aim at but is an otherwise spammable stacking debuff, and has the effect of shortening the cooldown of Independent Review and the other abilities as I come up with them, also building up the Secondary Resource(Human Resources) for the Form Change as its used.
There are perks for making magic or flesh interchangeable with technology. Is there anything out there that would allow me to make all of my technology out of plants? Jumper has all these tech perks, but having all this metal and plastic lying around doesn't quite fit their aesthetic.
>>93491305I think Tenchi Muyo has a tech tree perk.
Good and simple ways to heal brain damage? Especially brain damage that hasn't been treated in over a decade?
>>93491339Reverse cursed technique
>>93491369We never seen someone heal decades old injures.Maybe if anon has the soul transfiguration technique.
>>93491305Forerunner Saga.
This time on Dragon Ball Z.. I mean jump chain... My jumper faces the challenges of the wasteland in Fallout 1. Finally freed of Shady sands she must she must acquire the water chip while seeking a way to deal with the evils of the Master.
>>93491219What level was your summon's skibidi fragments?
How can a jumper heading into the MCU best deal with the TVA and their retardation?
>>93491398I can't remember, but I had essentially combed and scoured the entire DLC over for loot and content, and had left Radahn for absolute last, so if not maxed then pretty close to max.In general though I found i had much better luck with summons like Ogha, Lhutel, and Oleg. Heck, Oleg was an absolute savior when it came to fighting the Putrescent Knight
>>93491305Tenchi Muyo and Voltron Legendary Defenders have plant-tech that even have a similar interface unit for larger scale implementations, so all you have to do is inorganic tech to biotech in that direction rather than going biotech toward other types of biomass. In theory you wouldn't even need to get the perks from those jumps with the plant-based tech unless you wanted to cultivate a few specimens to study before converting your hardware into greenware(?), or whatever you end up making with something like that.
Is it morally wrong to release a virus that turns everyone into hyper intelligent, immortal, futanari amazons?
>>93491397That's a lot of words
>>93491452I have a problem. I try to write a short story but never quite succeed. The first two parts were short stories, the next two, were novels. I guess I just want to write novels.
How does Castoria measure up as waifu material? Is she worth forcing myself to read FGO part 2 to get her character right?>>93491451Do not put dicks on my chicks.
>>93491451Not at all.
>>93491451Yes, because it violates consent.Instead the smart thing would be to sell it instead. That way most people will take it, while the ones who hate it are free to fuck off to their own luddite communities and be Sex-Amish if they want. Also you can make a pretty penny in the meanwhile
>>93491459You will learn to love the cock.
>>93491459She measures highly on the woobie scale. Not as high as Barghest, but that's a really high bar. Overall, she's my absolute favorite version of Artoria and I would gladly waifu her if Barghest wasn't already there
So, some jumps are more dangerous and serious, while others are more laidback. So what's a good distribution/order of going serious to laidback jumps? 3 Serious then 1 Laidback? 5? 7?
Is it wrong to sell a highly psychologically addictive genderswapping drug that turns anyone who takes it into big-tiddy fat assed 10/10 waifus and grows more permanent the more one abuses it, but has no actual physiological downsides and in fact permanently improves your health, physiology, and intellect the more you take it?
>>93491494>Is it wrong to sell a highly psychologically addictiveYes, and caffeine/coffee companies are in fact evil
>>93491425Be female. Be quirky. Blame your male counterpart (or the nearest plot-relevant male) for being a little bitch cuckold who takes it up the ass from the man, and watch him fall so deeply in love for you he sacrifices himself to solve all your problems and absolves you of all moral agency while you live out your dreams working at a fast food restaurant or something.Fuck Sylvie by the way.Unfortunately the serious answer is to gain Ant-Man's powers and ant farm from the older MCU jumps, travel to the Quantum Realm and build an advanced ant empire that apparently the most feared version of Kang (the man whose technology is the basis of the TVA) just cannot deal with. At least, as long as his multiverse travel core ship is broken-and frankly, the ants can probably build you multiverse transit technology too given mere humans can.Slightly more inefficient alternative: Run a Thor build in MCU part 1, travel to the centre of the universe, open the door to Eternity (the key is the Bifrost; you can get that just by commissioning Stormbreaker from the dwarfs before Thanos genocides them and they start off thinking of Asgard as their righteous protectors) and wish for the TVA to fuck off. Forever.
>>93491425Fantasy Trees. And if they try to alter time backwards to mess with you, use Special Edition from Slaine to fuck with them
>>93491488>Do not formalize vacation jumps pls.>They should be breather jumps that you took because you wanted to, not because they're mandated.>Going too meta with how jumps are placed in the chain is similar to the "Easier after 20 jumps" thing with Reality Marble. Too meta. Don't bother.–Quicksilver, 2014
>>93491525>>They should be breather jumps that you took because you wanted to,What if I can't decide or figure out what I want? Didn't think of that, did you?
>>93491525>formalize vacation jumpsWhat does that even mean?
>>93485326Well that clears up a part of my potential build. Thanks for the answer.
>>93491488Think this is something you have to do by feel. If your Jumper is getting burned out throw a vacation jump at them. Now if you are setting up an entire chain ahead of time, just look for rough spots, jumps that you believe are going to be rough and stick a vacation jump behind that as a breather.
>>93491369RCT is not really good for it, it can heal superficially but not complex brain damage, which is why Gojo and Sukuna became retards after trying to heal their brains and fucking it up.
>>93491563Sukuna became retarded because of Infinite Void hitting him for 0.1 seconds not cause of RCT.
>>93491339Dnd and pathfinder, restoration or greater restoration fixes ability scores.>>93491459Great waifu material.
Stop liking girlfailures.
>>93491615No. I will waifu the woobies.
>>93491501Hey Shard, what are you working on currently?
>>93491615I have no proof, but I suspect the girlfailure trend has at least partially arisen from wannabe girlbosses discovering life is hard and settling for admitting to achieving less but being enjoyed more.
>>93491458Don't let your dreams be memes
>>93491630Nothing, thankfully.
>>93491615How about no and you let people like what they like.
>>93491304Probably, though I will make a note that Extreme Range abilities are extreme outliers, so you should think about how they manifest; the only two examples of them (that I know of, since it's been a while since I've played) are Rio's super arrow which keeps going until it hits someone and can eventually cross the entire map, and Estelle, who once again has the strangest VF abilities in that her ultimate is fucking Summon Medivac to allow her to travel to and support any of her allies, regardless of distance (also one of the only abilities to be tagged with all five types).
>>93491630probably waiting his next drip-feed of Fallen London content like the rest of us slaves at the Failbetter mines.
>>93491615>implyingFuck off. I want women who will put out their cigars with my skin and break my bones if I displease them.
>>93491547That there's no real rhyme or reason to when jumps SHOULD be taken (at the time) aside from Pokemon first, InFamous second, optional other stuff, and end-jump last. If your vacation is part of the itinerary, is it really the time you stop thinking about work?>>93491642Is that a waifu for emergency rations?
Is it considered bad form if you let your companion Murder someone who tried to murder you instead of doing it yourself? As a jumper how much obligation do you have to get your hands dirty?
>>93491615My favorite girlfailure is Lalatina
>>93491660No secondary-kun
>>93491660>Is that a waifu for emergency rations?Nope, She will keep you hydrated though
>>93491664That's just a bodyguard, and killing the guy for trying to kill you means that it's not murder by definition. Why would there be a problem with that?
>>93488141Oh you are around. An idea I had was a perk for the Realm/Lookshy for having the astrological blessings that the siddies put on all the important DBs to keep them on top of the shitpile.
>>93491677Will she make me some fresh tea?
>>93491664it depends
>>93491664Autist
>>93491615I will turn girlfailures into mothersuccesses
>>93491664Of course not. Mommy will always take care of her precious boy.
>>93491656Sorry to hear about your mom. Mine loved me and let me sit my head in her lap.
>>93491681>>93491686Well the shit head tried to poison my Jumper. It wasn't a serous danger. They were trying to do a slow poisoning to mimic illness, however it's enough my Companion decided to... deal with the problem. My Jumper had planned on killing the Shithead when he became an actual danger and kind of will feel bad that it fell to their companion to take care of the guy.
Tell me about your jumper's pets. No not your waifus, your animal companions.
>>93491726Humans are animals.
>>93491500I always find it funny to cast a 'Curse' on modern worlds that causes caffeine to stop working for all humans on the planet and then record the aftermath.
>>93491702They'll trip on their way to the hospital and drop their chorded babies behind them like an accidentally deployed parachute.
>>93491615But they're so cute tho
>>93491775But what did she cook?
>>93491781Their parents
>>93491762how delightfully devilish, I approve
>>93491775Do you think they ate their parents genitals?
>>93491397>4 jumps in>314 pagesHoly shit RL, you wrote a whole book
>>93491790>>93491762>>93491500FOOLS! If you do that, the Mormons will take over the world!
>>93491397You are someone to aspire towards
>>93491646RightVital Force: Manipulation-Type. 300 Choice Points, +1000 Vital Force Points, -950 Vital Force Points> -350 Vital Force Points: Active Effect[Offense/Utility] - Auditing/Usability:+150VFP(Triggered, Channeling, Contingent, Delayed)/Power;-100VFP(Major)/Range;-200VFP(Extreme)/Cooldown;-100VFP(Rapid)*Form Change[Utility/Defense]/Usability;+100VP(Continuous, Blood-Based, Secondary Resource)/Power;-100(Major)/Range;-0(Close)/Cooldown;+0(None)> -300 Vital Force Points - Active Effect[Crowd Control/Utility] - Civil Servant/Usability;+50VFP(Triggered, Delayed)/Power;-100VFP(Major)/Range;-100VFP(Long)/Cooldown;+50VFP(Extreme, Recharge)*Secondary Effect[Utility/Defense]/Usability;+0VFP(Triggered, Untargetable, Restrictive)/Power;-50VFP(Useful)/Range;-50VFP(Medium)/Cooldown;+50VFP(Extreme, Recharge)*Form Change[Utility/Offense]/Usability;+100VFP(Continuous, Blood-Based, Secondary Resource)/Power;-100(Major)/Range;-0(Close)/Cooldown;+0(None)> -300 Vital Force Points - Active Effect[Mobility/Utility] - Overwork/Usability;+50VFP(Continuous, Secondary Resource)/Power;-200VFP(Decisive)/Range;-0VFP(Self)/Cooldown;+0VFP(None)*Secondary Effect[Utility/Form Change]/Usability;+100VFP(Triggered, Contingent, Secondary Resource)/Power;-200VFP(Decisive)/Range;-0VFP(Self)/Cooldown;+50VFP(Extreme, Recharge)So this is what I've so far come up with. I've decided on how the Form Change should work. The idea being the cooldown on the Form Change is such that it can fire only when the Secondary Resource(Stress) is maxed. Form Change is a Secondary Effect, with the base ability being a greatly scaling speed buff that costs Stress over time whence activated. Thus the other two abilities change into a different state where they're Continuous and cost life to use, representing the unrelenting torture of being an industry regulator. The first and second abilities give buffs for having Civil Servant marks within close range.
What would happen to vegans and vegetarians if I made it so that they all started hallucinating vegetables screaming and begging for their lives whenever they were being eaten?
>>93491797Just think it's intended to go 100 jumps Imagine how big it will be by the end. That said, I guess you are not wrong. Damn.
>>93491807Plants actually do that, it just isn't in our audible range.
>>93491807Watch Sausage Party.
>>93491807I know at least one vegetarian would blame this on jewish sorcery to stop his ideal aryan vegetarian lifestyle and deprive him of nutrients
>>93491807I would force Gohan to start eating his vegetables.
>>93491726What if my waifu knows and reflexively obeys the commands of sit, shake, and beg? What if she is a good girl who just wants headpats and belly rubs?
>>93491726He's got a chicken who's also a fire keeper/buff blacksmith
>>93491762Damn bro. You tryna kill people like that?
>>93491801Thank you I appreciate that. I am not sure that level of autism should be encouraged but I appreciate you saying that. I think more stories would be a good thing but I think writing a book may have taken it too far. However as for me. I have already gone too far I may as well see how far I can go.
>>93491807For me, it's invading Earth with a Plantoid Devouring Swarm called the Humanitarians.
>>93491890If they die from caffeine withdrawal they were weak and their bloodline will not be missed.
>>93483123if the crossover item is just applying skins to stuff you got and no other real effect, i feel it should just be a free thing or a single purchase with a flippable whenever you like appearance toggle
>>93491903Humanivore sounds better.
>>93491947But that's not as funny and ironic.
>>93491970No but it's vore.
>>93491726I picked up an ether drake from Stellaris. Poor thing was dying from a rare allergy to the laws of physics as currently understood. Fortunately, one of the civilisations my Vexpies brought salvation to was working on something called Project Cosmogenesis that if applied correctly could've potentially rewritten the laws of physics in a way that would've let them create a new universe a black hole and rewrite it to their specifications.Anyway, since I already have my own collection of universes I just altered the goal of the research to animal welfare, and used it to create a reality vaccine for my drake instead. And now there's a thriving population of them amongst my universes. Feegles, barely spaceflight capable civilisations, scrive-spinsters and small monstergirls alike use them as pack animals while travelling between planets.>>93491664Considering the temperament of some of my entourage, letting people murder on my behalf isn't an obligation. It's a privilege. I mean Grail for example would be very sad if I just zapped everything before she got to Omega Sanction it.>>93491459Do you like plucky tomboys that are full of despairing rage but also an unbreakable tenacity yearning for someone to believe in on the inside? If yes, you won't be disappointed.
How likely is a JoJo Jumper to be able to survive going to Mortal Kombat?
How bad of an idea is it to do both Scenarios in Imperial Guard as a psyker? How much heat would a Psyker given actual command authority be dealing with?
>>93492014Exactly 50/50.
>>93492014Depends on your abilities. Assuming it was a logical world you'd think bald time lady could beat even most top tier Jojo characters, but it works off professional wrestling logic. Maybe the answer is to just be likable enough that you have to survive into the next game.
>>93492032With Sonic and the Black Knight's Soul Surge how often could it be used? Would it be something we could potentially use multiple times in a given fight or would that take OOC?
>>93492014It's kind of funny that they just casually bring up the fact that Cassie and Johnny can punch Elder Gods to death, and that's never brought up again in MK11. Even though Aftermath reveals that it's not actually THAT hard for Raiden to bully Kronika when she isn't using her hourglass, he just needs another god and Shang Tsung to join.
>>93492032>bald time ladyShe is honestly my biggest concern. I'd figure with enough experience in Hamon and the perks in MK itself I'd be able to survive the normal parts well enough, but its dealing with Kronika and worrying over her potentially targeting me that's the most concerning part since Time Powers are bullshit and I figure she'd get pissy if I do things like mess with her timeline or punch Shinnok in the dickOn a side note, are Fairies/The Fae a think in the MK universe>>93492045That's another good point, I guess if I have enough divine metaphysical weight like Raiden does and decide to jump her I shouldn't be too worried. So I guess I can stop by another jump or two, grab some divinity of some kind, and wombo-combo her with Raiden and at least one other person.
>>93492042It's based on the in-game meter thing, which builds up really fast. I could see it getting off twice even in the span of 1 minute. It can be used in shorter bursts too, even if you aren't "full meter".
>>93492069Man I don't even think Raiden is particularly heavy metaphysically. The most powerful thing I remember him doing is the time travel memory thing that changed the timeline from when Shao Kahn won-actually no, that's the second most powerful thing. The most powerful is beating D'vorrah in a fight which is fucking amazing compared to the track record of notionally powerful characters that have fought her. The point I'm badly making is that Raiden was never exactly the DC Darkseid or oWoD pandimensional idea kind of god. He's an asian dude with lightning powers.
>>93491397>Chapter 2 “Getting down to business”:To defeat the Huns?>Nekochan giggled “Well you always were good with your hands.” she commented though I wasn’t sure she was talking about how I worked with technology.Likely not.>“OH well there is a prewar garbage dump not too far away. They used to throw away a lot of things that could be salvaged, It’s dangerous though there are a lot of monsters that live in that dump. I would be very careful if you go there, I only really go to the outer edges.”I can see where you’re headed soon.>“And don’t worry I will leave you out of that. I know you have a sensitive nose and really wouldn’t be interested in digging through trash.”Doesn’t the power armor have filters?>It was a bit annoying that our Mansion hadn’t turned up yet, with the new battery tech of this world I could have solved a lot of the power problems I had.Also I think the GECK runs on cold fusion.>I don’t think the streets were set up for cars.An understandable development, but when you set up your own settlement you should leave room.>“I mean I suppose every jump is going to be like this with a lot of crap to do in the beginning and then I will finally be able to take things at my own pace as things are resolved and we are situated.”There comes a point at which you can delegate the tasks to others and focus on what you want to do. When you reach that point depends on where you go on the chain.>The original trilogy or the true Star Wars. I was never the biggest star wars fan but damn kids eat that up. “Can we go there! Can we go there next, Can we get Force powers?” I told them I would think about it if we got the chance.Nekochan would like that.>Excitement. Adventure. A Jedi craves not these things.
>>93492122>>93491397>“It’s fine he isn’t going to screw us. We showed up with a bar of gold quite casually. There is a chance that we have more. That makes us a potential customer with something he is going to want. He is not going to risk a potential business deal in the future for just one bar.”Don’t kill the goose that lays golden eggs and all that.>It was the equivalent of hit someone with this mutagen add the right amount of Radiation and hope something beneficial happens. It was like working with Crisper; a virus that can be used to edit DNA, but if the person doing so was a complete idiot or just didn’t care that much about the result.So Fallout science?>“Well then how do we approach him.” She asked confused.Ask Alice how she did it.>“That may be true but there will be a strong justice system in place for a reason.”The justice system is don’t cause trouble or Nekochan will deal with you.>Currently I had was building a settlement for no people.Use the traditional method. Establish a place, make it safe, and provide a reason for people to want to live there.>An aerial vehicle would cut down on travel times considerably, sadly I was kind of in the middle of too many things as it was.Air vehicles are worth the trouble. I would know, I’ve worked on a similar question in Exalted Mortal Heroes.>“Look we are not killing kids, if it can be avoided. If he tries to kill someone... You do what you have to do, otherwise. We will try and manage the problem.” Let’s face it, Dio’s a world of trouble.
>>93492045To be fair, Johnny Cage is the product of a millennia-long eugenics program to create a god-killing warrior that everyone kind of just forgot about because the people who set it in motion died off, didn't tell anyone, and, for all of their power and foresight, couldn't predict that the end product would be a Hollywood jackass with a penchant for dickpunching.>>93492069Kronika's biggest weakness is her reliance on her hourglass to rewrite the timeline, but she has a lesser weakness in Geras: He's a pain in the ass to deal with on account of being a walking canon event, but if you can use OCP to kill him for good he'll betray Kronika in a heartbeat for the privilege of final death.
>>93491988>scrive-spinstershow do you deal with them doing a Vulgate and keeping little bits of doomed timeline in their backyards
>>93492178>Johnny Cage is the product of a millennia-long eugenics programW H A T ?
>>93492178Geras seem pretty chill in the new MK1 so I don't think even killing him is necessary
>>93492102You can't convince me that MK9+ has power levels, the place is just too chunky.
>>93492202Yeah he's a product of a couple millenia of eugenics to create the ultimate warrior human.
>>93492202Yeah he's basically the Mortal Kombat version of the Qwisatz Haderach, except trading the future sight for the green aura that folds Elder Gods like lawn chairs. I want to say it was the ancient Atlanteans, but it was something in that general ballpark.
>>93492213This trend started in MKvsDC where the powerlevels depended on which character the play controlled.
So I have been experimenting with these funny green crystals I got from a nice bald man with a goatee and his friends that live in the wilderness where this stuff grows. Anyways I was poking these crystals today and they seemed to grow as I fed them stuff almost lik
>>93492015Depends on how well you do and if you encounter any problems like Inquisitors or jealous colleagues trying to get rid of you. Best way to avoid that is to immediately go on a campaign on some extremely remote system that eats up all your time before someone higher up from the Imperium can show up.
>>93492255Grind them up and inject them between your toes.
>>93492255Grind them up and inject them in your balls.
>>93492178Yeah but JOHNNY and CASSIE know. It's just, they seem to have kind of forgotten about it in 11 too. Although desu I really want to know how fucking whacky a eugenics program gets if it starts with (I assume) an actually serious attempt to somehow breed a god-killing warrior from (again, just assuming) the strongest bastards you can find on Earth that don't sell their souls for dark arts. And end up with some goofy himbo who can't stop getting his ass beat by regular humans by annoying them. I guess logically, Sonya is compatible with the gene program because Cassie also got the glowey powers. And at least Sonya makes sense.>>93492201Periodical acts of literal historical revisionism on worlds under my control but not yet ascended to timeless harmony. The doomed timelines get spun back into New Genesis-brand revision mechanisms, Loom of Fate-equivalents or similar constructs and have all the conflict and suffering rewritten out of them before a spinster can start hoarding. Bad end hoarding is an actionable crime punishable by L-space imprisonment next to a hungry thesaurus.>>93492212Strictly speaking Geras was always chill going by his MK11 ending where he realised Kronika went batshit insane, he's just kinda thick and it took him a while to break his old loyalty.>>93492237To be fair to MKvsDC, it actually explained that with the universes merging making everyone's powerlevel fluctuate.MK11...does not.>>93492255Is the nice bald man called Cain, Kane or anything similar? If so, he is unironically your friend and completely trustworthy going by Tiberian Twilight. He's basically just the interstellar equivalent of a guy who was kicked out of the house and is trying to flag down a taxi back home. At any cost.
>>93492122>>93492129>I can see where you’re headed soon.Actually they didn't on screen which is too bad but I figured the story was big enough. I assume they hit it as soon as they got free time.>Doesn’t the power armor have filters? It does but we were trying not to break out the Power armor for every little thing. I just feel trump cards should be saved until needed.>Also I think the GECK runs on cold fusion.They Do indeed.>An understandable development, but when you set up your own settlement you should leave room.Yes I am sure the people wondered why the streets were so wide at first but I imagine cars soon became much more common too. Oh crap did I just turn fallout in to Mad Max...>There comes a point at which you can delegate the tasks to others and focus on what you want to do. When you reach that point depends on where you go on the chain.Agreed more power does tend to give more freedom.>Excitement. Adventure. A Jedi craves not these things.The force morality thing is going to be a problem isn't it?>Don’t kill the goose that lays golden eggs and all that.Well remember that story didn't turn out so good for the goose. Still here it worked out.>Ask Alice how she did it.For 50 CP that game is just too useful.>The justice system is don’t cause trouble or Nekochan will deal with you.Well that's one of them. My jumper was intending a more formal system but... when in doubt Nekochan works.>Air vehicles are worth the trouble. I would know, I’ve worked on a similar question in Exalted Mortal Heroes.You are absolutely correct but sometimes a jumper can just be too busy even though it would solve a lot of problems.>Let’s face it, Dio’s a world of trouble.I see it as Dio's life is on a timer as soon as the jump begins. His actions can either increase or decrease the amount of time he has left. Sadly it being Dio... it's going to be decrease. Thank you, I hope you enjoyed the story.
How do you nerf a time traveling jutsu/bloodline in Naruto to where it could actually be buyable?
Is it weird I like to pretend I'm dead when the chosen hero or protagonist confronts me and they just find a dusty pile of bones just to ruin their vibes?
>>93492295>I assume they hit it as soon as they got free time.Six years later…>Yes I am sure the people wondered why the streets were so wide at first but I imagine cars soon became much more common too. Oh crap did I just turn fallout in to Mad Max...It was pretty much there already.>The force morality thing is going to be a problem isn't it?Probably not, you’re already the kind of person who wouldn’t want to go down the Dark Side route.>Well remember that story didn't turn out so good for the goose.Or for the guy who killed it.>I see it as Dio's life is on a timer as soon as the jump begins. His actions can either increase or decrease the amount of time he has left. Sadly it being Dio... it's going to be decrease.The real risk is Nekochan might start using Dio quotes.>Thank you, I hope you enjoyed the story.Thank you for writing it, it was fun.
Do we not have a jump for Control? I could have sworn we did but I don't see it on the drive anywhere. Did I see an Altered Item?
>>93492361We do not.
>>93492369Damn it. Guess I'll have to wing a build then.
>>93492374It's called "go to Alan Wake, work for the government, sign up to the upside-down pyramid's medical plan"
>>93492320Its base form is just astral projection, like a dream of the past. It strains your chakra to discern things that have been 'lost to time' but you can heal from this 'damage' by reconnecting to a distant ancestor's experiences.Once evolved, the process becomes more direct. You actually enter the past, first as a ghostly entity anchored to a relevant ancestor, then able to communicate with them as you observe their life directly. This process builds in efficiency until you can possess them, at which point your real body 'disappears' from the present and you inhabit the ancestor instead.This final stage is tricky. You have time travel, but you won't be present in the future until you 'undo' your possession. You return after the same amount of time you spent in possession of your ancestor, measured from the moment you disappeared in the present. There is no protection against temporal damage to your prior history, nor is there any specific guarantee you will survive the death of your ancestor while possessed.
>>93492320It can be defeated if the other guy punches you hard enough, i.e. a taijutsu user folds you like clean laundry with like 3 gates open.
>>93491726I envy that dog.
>>93492552You're a good boy, anon! Yes you are!
>>93489045He's just a little shit who didn't get his ass kicked enough.
>>93492561Unfortunately unlike the dog I don't believe you.
>>93492577Look up "mommy praises her good boy" ASMR on YouTube
Why the fuck does it feel like my eyes are fucked up after playing Slay the Spire?
>>93492584The fact that you're able to suggest that is kind of sad.
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>>93492605The eye worms have taken root.
>>93492605Its from starting at a computer screen for too long.I suggest instead of constant binging to take a break every half hour to stand up, walk around your house, and stretch-n-rest your eyeballs
>>93492584Erotic audio is a hell of a drug.
>>93492552I give my dog pats and rubs when he is a good boy and not headbutting me, slapping me in the dick or head, chewing on me or ripping long tears in my skin leaving scars.
>>93492584No. I've sworn off porn. I'm trying to unfuck myself and cutting that out of my life is a big part of that.
>>93492649>women talking>pornI think you might have bigger problems, anon.
>>93492670NTA, any form of recreational interaction with a sexually attractive figure that isn't foreplay or intercourse is porn. It all achieves the same function of stimulating the reptile brain with a simulacrum of human intimacy
>>93492670I agree, women talking is a much bigger problem than porn.
>>93492649Nah. Here.https://n2.kemono.su/data/64/1c/641c00f7530e964bfd8fb87fe74ae5215243e016e9f6fbb9cc6146fa06dccfff.mp3?f=Layered%20Good%20Boys%20Final_1.mp3
>>93492346>Six years later…Probably, My jumper is finding that free time is a precious commodity for jumpers. There is always a dozen things that need doing.>It was pretty much there already.Yeah all they were missing was the vehicle combat... oops.>Probably not, you’re already the kind of person who wouldn’t want to go down the Dark Side route.I am not so much worried about my Jumper as Nekochan who is going to see this as nonsensical. She is not evil but I don't see her doing well trying to stick to the path of a Jedi, maybe she will be our Han Solo.>The real risk is Nekochan might start using Dio quotes.Oh dear. That is possible.>Thank you for writing it, it was fun.You are welcome. I appreciate the comments.
>>93492685Watching sports is porn? Going to a concert? Cracking open a cold one with your bros?
>>93492697>Probably, My jumper is finding that free time is a precious commodity for jumpers. There is always a dozen things that need doing.As I said, with time you’ll be able to delegate more.>I am not so much worried about my Jumper as Nekochan who is going to see this as nonsensical. She is not evil but I don't see her doing well trying to stick to the path of a Jedi, maybe she will be our Han Solo.Raven and Nekochan should try going down the path of the Jedi Lords.>Oh dear. That is possible.I can see her standing there in a maid outfit saying “You’re approaching me”.
Figuring out how to start the chain is always hard.
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>>93492730No, it's not. Pokemon is the first jump.
>>93492730Alternately
>>934927304u: https://youtu.be/LZd71MAa3-4?si=b7FVbTdfSaS3EEvs
>>93492730That it is. I haven't even finalized my build for Classic Sonic and I'm already wondering if I should reroll my starting series. Indecision is a cruel and spiteful master.
>>93492730Midchain usually sees me slow down a bit.
Besides collecting cool items and studying different materials I can't think of much else to do in Dragon Age that isn't stuff I would be doing anyway like exterminating the Darkspawn.
>>93492832Fuck your way through fantasy France.
>>93492730First jumps are easy. I can just make any build and call it a first jump. Second jumps are much harder to decide.
>>93492670Bro we both know that is fetish audio. Even if it isn't sexually explicit it is designed to be provacitive and if it gets me randy it is gonna be that much harder to resist the urge to just go whack one out.
>>93492832>can't think of much else to doMorrigan. Also, maybe unleash a magic Plague or the X-Gene on the Qunari or something.Personally, I'd rescue King whats his name from the start of Origins just to make Loghain eat crowAlso, I'd love to go and use some manner of restoration Magic over at the Shaperate and un-erase all the history they removed in their retarded revisionist purity spiral, then make it so they can't erase it again. Wonder what sorts of dirty laundry you can find from their erased records.Then, go to those ruins that proved the Dalish were the ones responsible for starting a war with Orlais, and give the records and results to every Dalish clan I can find, because fuckem.Honestly, I can't think of a single Faction in that setting I wouldn't want to fuck with in some way. Then, I'm going to use WHF Lizardmen Magic to create either a web or Maelstrom to further strengthen the Veil to make Solas seethe and make Magic a little less dangerous to use, followed by exposing the seekers just tonpiss both the Mages and and Templars off
>>93492730I just started a new chain with Bloodborne. My jumper has (just barely) survived and did a bunch of the scenarios as well, and is looking forward to being literally anywhere else that isn't a world full of eldritch nightmares.With that established I would like to invite anons to suggest the next three jumps my new bloodborne hunter jumper should go to.
