>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>936462651 out of 4 remain, edition >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com >Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/ >Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/ >Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/ >Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php >Thread question:If you have squatted models, are you proxying them, and if so what as?
>TQMost of my stormcast are sacrosanct but I was already kind of done with this hobby in general so I'm just gonna keep using the legends rules until someone says no and then I'll just do something else. I'm not gonna sit down and make a guide for myself/opponent about what model is what every time GW decides to delete a bunch of shit
>>936597371 out of 4 what?
>TQGW left in the Dreadspears, so my Eternal Guard have a cover, and I'm re-doing my corsairs. The hard part is coming up with a new theme. The events that goes from being pan-elf alliance builders to like 50/50 humans and dark elves. Because what used to be a quarter of my army is now half.
>>93659849Of the heroes on the cover, Stormcast has been squatted, as has the Eldritch Wizard. The Cogsmith is in TOW, which is a death sentence. Only the Fleetmaster, as Dark Elves aren't anywhere near close to being added to TOW(Vampires, Skaven, Ogres, ect), is safe.
>tqWhen GW fucked my CoS I just stopped playing.
>>93660360Good things come, maybe, to those who wait. Unrelated, how's this KHO look; I'm not entirely sold on the pauldrons?
>>93660269Thanks, Nagash.
Maybe one day GW will stop putting warlocks in DoK boxes.
>>93658099drill a hole through the flight stand
which faction is the most black metal
>>93659737Only Grinkrak
>>93659737I am mildly curious to see where the zombie dragon and terrorgheist is going moving forward. Well for all of the dual kits in soulblight.
>>93659737Got some Empire handgunners that i'm using as Fusilers (ordering some 3D shields as well) it like the only model im sort proxying as the Fusiliers are the only model from nu-CoS i just don't like would have prefer them just kept the Arquebus or the Swivel gun the fusilier-major gun usesso my CoS army is just bunch of the new models (Steelhelms, Cavaliers, Command corp, Warhulk, canon, marshal on horse, Steel rook) and the Karl franz which i will proxy as Talhia Vedra once that gets send back to TOW
>>93661134Karl Franz isn’t getting sent back to Old World because it’s set way before his birth. Old World is set earlier than Warhammer fantasy battle was. You have elf characters and others that make sense ( Settra ) etc, but none of the same humans. It predates Archaeon.
>>93661397the kit is still going back to the old world seeing as how it can be built as two generic lord options.
>>93661397Karl Franz Sr.Checkmate. That'll be $120 USD please.
>>93661397What a dumb call that was. At least half of all the people who clamor for tow are total war secondaries who aren't gonna like not being able to spout elector count memes. Which sucks because I think those guys and the people who just want WHFB should get their game and have fun with it but GW fucks everything up all the time.
>>93661475They can still spout elector count memes. IIRC it’s set during the Age of the Three Emperors. If they expand on that angle for the empire then it should be a more diverse empire setting than TWW. Considering the central theme of the civil war/strife is the conflict between the Cult of Sigmar, who deify Sigmar as a Godchild and the Cult of Ulric ( ancient wolf God that predates Sigmar ) who claim Sigmar was merely a man blessed by Ulric. Also adding to this you have the Emperor supported by the cult of Taal. Do you have a setting that allows for massive diversity and three effective broad flavours of Empire armies based on religious civil war. Although they did say that Asavar Kul will be featured as the big bad so that would date the setting to the very end of the Age of Three Emperors and the reunification of the Empire under Magnus the Pious. But you do have wolf priests represented in Old World. So Empire will probably at least get the Cult of Ulric models back.
>>93661552Dios mios, mucho texto autismo
>>93661552But is the empire in lustria during that time
Am
The kruleboyz Mirebrute has this rule and am I reading it right that I take d3 mortals every combat phase no matter what?
Four flavors of Khorne
>>93662157Not sure, let me get my magnifying glass and I'll tell you in a second
>>93662043There is no Imperial expedition if that is what you are asking. But you already have many human cities founded on the coasts of Lustria. None of them are officially within the realm of the empire. Towns like Swamp Town and Port Reaver are more like free cities, they harbour pirates, exiles, traders and adventurers looking to raid inland for gold. Within them you can find men of the Empire, Bretonnia and the various border princes. None of them save for spies are there in service of any nation. Then you have the old Norscan settlements further north, which are also human but not really deep into chaos like the Norscan tribes. More Viking explorers and raiders. They have the longest foothold in lustria of any of the humans.
>>93662157I don't think that's the intention. It's not a passive ability, so the ability isn't supposed to do anything unless you activate it. But they seem to have forgotten to have written its "Declare" condition on there, so it reads confusing.
>>93662195I am treating it as every combat phase until they FAQ it because RAW it seems like there isn't a choice involved you just take dmg and get attacks. This is kind of nuts because it doesn't say anything about even being in combat for this to pop
>>93662171>shaved sides
>>93662263Please learn to read between the lines it’s obviously an option you can use to buff your damage
>>93662171corn is corn.
>>93662157Passives are always active, but you can choose not to use a non passive ability unless it says otherwise
>>93662287>>93662363After rereading the abilities section and comparing stuff like the charge ability it does seem like unless Passive or otherwise stated I can just choose not to do it. I would like a FAQ though because I don't want to have any arguments
>>93662402I mean sure, I would never turn down a clarifying faq, and it does seem to lack a proper declare call out, but I don't think the raw or rai currently force you to use it, and I doubt anyone would try to make you play it that way either. If they try to argue with you, you can cite the 3rd edition warscroll for intended function since it's an identical ability just ported over
>>93662443I think the best argument I saw to convince myself at least was that the Charage ability is phrased in a similar way and no one things you have to charge every unit every turn
>>93662454>>93662443I really need to get to sleep. I can barely spell right now
>>93659737Pestilens bros how are we coping? Monks being so ancient and without an update in the foreseeable future is a bummer
>>93662754Just paint some clanrats green. Who cares.
>>93662754Yeah, I have like 60 plaguemonks I gave up on. They look so goofy even next to old clanrats.
>>93662754Skavenfags are absolutely miserable all the fucking time jesus christ. They've literally been scream crying for ten years and now after receiving one of the biggest refreshes in the game, they are still scream crying because "THEY DIDNT REFRESH EVERYTHING". Fuck off, I hope the squat your gay green rats so I don't have to hear anymore whinging from furries fuck sake
S. is the God(dess) of Gluttony. Are there any Chaos Ogors dedicated to xer?
>>93662860yes
>>93659737>tqMy sacrosanct will be heavily played until squatting, after which time my sequitors will become Liberators, my Dracolines will be Dracoths, my evocators will be Reclusians, Knight incantors become knight arcanums, Lord arcanum on gryph charger becomes lord vigilant on gryph stalker and Aventis Firestrike becomes Ionus Cryptborn.I even converted my Ionus into a vampire lord in preparation for Aventis replacing him.
>>93662855It's honestly James's fault for writing an army around 5 distinct clans each with their own micro ranges (pestilens even had a separate battletome at one point) and basically telling each of them they can run each clan as a self contained army
>>93662855Kill yourself faggot, we can talk about 20 year old models not being refreshed is a bad thingYou don't like it fuck off
>>93662855Very few people who play skaven are furries, you porn obsessed cumbrain.
>>93662914>It's honestly James's fault for writing an army around 5 distinct clans each with their own micro ranges and basically telling each of them they can run each clan as a self contained armyHow do you think Dark Eldar players feel about it?
>>93662855
>>93662855>"THEY DIDNT REFRESH EVERYTHING"correct 4 billion dollar company, no excuse.
Why are Liberators more expensive than Vanquishers, when Vanquishers are blatantly more powerful?Why are Vindictors the same cost as Vanquishers when, again, Vanquishers are blatantly more powerful?Why do Vanquishers have a musician when the other two weapon types don't?
It would be cool of GW to unveil some stormcast mini today to get people talking about any potential reveals at nova next week.
>>93663377I dunno, why do chaos knights do the same damage as fulminators and have literally double the health.
>>93662974>How do you think Dark Eldar players feel about it?Dark Eldar have always been fun whether you play the army as a mix of Kabal, Wych Cult and Coven or as one of those on their own imo so we feel pretty good :)
>>93663396If you think they aren't going save all the SC reveals for nova then you're delusional
>>93663396So Stormcast reinforcements are just gonna be resculpts of Vanguard units right?
>>93663401You need geniune help, this is not the first time you've had a meltdown about skaven in this past month.
Being a new player I have a question about future. I have been told that GW, sometimes, removes armies from play for various reasons. Now I was planning to start Stormcast Eternals as my army, as they are the closest to medival knights and I like italian gothic armour. But now I am worried that after Stormcast losing so bad in their event, GW will think that they are not popular and not give them cool new rules or worse remove them from the game, by the end of the edition. My question is, are my worries valid or are their just a product of my mind. I don't have a large hobby budget and would rather pick a safer different army, then one that could potentialy be gone by the time I finish collecting it to play.
These dudes are fun as fuck to use.Age of Sigmar needs more Daemon Engines. That is all.
>>93663435Removing Stormcast will only happen the day Age of Sigmar is nuked off the face of the earth. They are THE faction for AoS branding. That's like asking if Halo would get rid of Master Chief/Spartans because Arbiter is cool too.Welcome to AoS. Just avoid any of the old stuff (Sacrosant Chamber, I think?) and you'll be golden.
>>93663435>remove them from the gameThis will literally never happen. Stormcast ARE AoS. They may lose units, but they ain't going away.
>>93663424I think it will be resculpts of the rest of warrior chamber mostly and some more ruination chamber.
>>93663435fuck off.
>>93663424Doubt it. If that was the plan then they would just have discontinued those models along with sacrosanct.
>>93663452>I think it will be resculpts of the rest of warrior chamberHonestly, what's left? They did liberators and Prosecutors. Paladins and Judicators are phased out. Most of the old heroes are either already replaced or expendable, I expect to see a new Lord Celestant and Lord Relictor and not much else. At this point, it'll either be more Ruination, or resculpts of Vanguard or Extremis.
>>93663377Their objective control ability is overvalued. Most objective control abilities are
>>93663474Sticking a sculpt in legends means nothing. Paladin with X and Judicator with x is a different scroll then a new unit.
>>93663446>>93663451Is there a way to know which units are the removed ones? Like is there some sort of a mark on the box. I don't think there are any , at least in my country, that have sacrosanct in their name. I don't want to fall for a "last minute super offer" to find out next day I can't use the models. The model I like the best of all the Age of Sigmar range are dudes with hammers and large hoplon like shields, and others with large two handed hammers. >>93663454thank you for being helpful.
>>93663443Why is there so much nuln oil on the flat panels?
>>93663474Why not make sacrosanct resculpts or a chamber that looks just like sacrosanct, so that people who have been build their armies around them don't feel like GW took their money and then kicked them in the nads.
>>93663490Not on the boxes, just on WarCom.https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/04/whats-leaving-the-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-range/Liberators? They're safe. Worst I think is they got a new look since most of the refresh is essentially new, slimmer armor on everyone.Take it with a grain of salt. I don't play Stormcast, never have and never will. I don't know the names.
>>93663502because then they wouldn't buy new shit.
>>93663493Wanted them to look dirty and oil covered without putting in the effort lmao
>>93663510Oh that is very helpful. Bit sad about the ape ridders, but gone is gone. Looks like most of the units I like are not sacrosanct and maybe in the future they will add some sort of mounted heavy infantry. I like this guys the most. If it was possible, and I could afford it I would make an army out of just them.
>>93663518Because someone who lost 400$ after saving it for 4-6 years is going to run off and start buying another army to collect it for another 4-6 years, so GW can remove it too. :thumbs up:
>>93663525>mounted heavy infantry.Extremis Chamber, my guy. Can't get much more "mounted heavy infantry" than literal Lightning Angels mounted on dragons.
>>93663525Dracothian Guard and a bunch other stuff.Just get the Age of Sigmar app and look at the Warscrolls for SCE. Also any LGS worth its salt and smegma will help you out. You're picking a popular starter army, they should know enough to get your ball rolling.
Ten days.https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/19/the-nova-open-is-incoming-get-ready-for-more-warhammer-reveals/
>>93663547>This show will be a little different to our normal previews, with the focus on roadmaps and the inside track on what’s coming soon for all your favourite games.Finally the roadmaps.>no Warcry or UnderworldsThen I take it they're at the end of their road.
>>93663531If they gave a fuck they wouldn't have removed them in the first place, its not my fucking logic you're questioning. Their model is to make stormcast every couple years to fund the rest of the ranges but they don't know how to stash them so they tried range rotation to see what the backlash would be like.
>>93663493He doesn't care about painting beyond getting the job done
>>93663486That still doesn't mean they're getting new models. They have Judicator/Paladin replacements already.
>>93663443Hoping chorfs get some, if the do get added back
>>93663567If you like the judicator/paladin models just run them as vigilors and annihilators
>>93663567Sort of, replacements that kind of suck and do nothing. There's no anchor like 10 protectors. There's no cheaper priority target shooting that doesn't require a vanguard chamber hero tax.
>>93663563>He doesn't care about painting beyond getting the job donePrecisely :)
I still say we're getting a new Dryad kit this Edition. The diseased ones in the Warcry warband are too big of a design change. And GW clearly hates selling the same kit for two games, so this way there'll be TOW Dryads and AoS Dryads
>>93663568>Hoping chorfs get someChaos Duardin are the faction Daemon Engines make the most sense for, I agree.
>>93663585They'll be similar in that the deceptively human appearances in the kit will be removed.
>>93663555>>no Warcry or Underworlds>Then I take it they're at the end of their road.He literally just listed the four mainline games and then said "and even more"
>>93663570Paladins are pretty easy to replace :3 Protectors make for 3 Praetors, they're both bodyguards.3 Retributors fill in for 3 Annihilators with Grand Hammers, big smashers both.5 Decimators are the equivalent of 5 Vanquishers, the two sorts being anti-horde specialists.
>>93663595Kill Team, Necromunda, MESBG, Mordheim It's over for AoS bloat
>>93663635>MordheimThey're not about to announce a Mordheim revival.
>>93663635so true. Honestly though I just wanna see a new edition for warcry before any new kits.
>>93663377Aren't liberators better against heroes/elite units/sce mirror?
>>93663641Propper successor to mordheim with focus on lore and comfy play would be niceGW will never do it
>>93663712they're slightly better against exactly non infantry of less than 5 models.
>>93663741A good chunk of current Warhammer fans give no shits about lore, so we are never getting a lore focused game.
>>93663741Blood Bowl?>>93663769Blood Bowl basically exists in leagues
>>93663635>>93663641>>93663741Mordheim is overrated as fuck.
>>93663510>never have and never willThe storm comes for all eventually
>>93663819It's still good though, everything WHF gets put on a weird pedestal because it got canned so obnoxious secondaries will overpraise everything about it but that doesn't mean it was all bad
This blightking is getting there. The armor is just basecoated, does anybody have suggestions for how I should highlight and shade it? I was thinking of recess shade and 2 edge highlights but the shapes are so odd and the green I used is so matte>>93659737do different chaos god cults really collaborate like in that OP pic? Since when do tzeentch cultists and blightkings fight side by side?>>93656295sorry i'm seeing this so late. If you're still here, it's just the new vallejo hammered copper with a shit ton of Stormhost silver drybrush and a little bit of vallejo game color black wash.
>>93663741>focus on loreFuck that, all of these games/settings have only gotten worse the deeper they dive in. Every hack writer needs to "make their mark" on the world and it all just ends up as a big mess of badly written bullshit that doesn't do anything but give shitty youtubers something to spoon-feed retards
>>93663435don't buy fucking anything. listen to reddit and do what reddit tells you.
>>93663633you could also easily do evocators on foot as reclusians, and possibly sequitors as liberators although the grandhammer count might be off, sequitors could manage to squeeze 3 grandhammers in a 5 man unit from what i remember, so maybe it would be better to run only the grandhammers and use them as whatever new 2 handed reclusian variant comes out. evocators on dracolines also easily could just be either palladors or some new gryph crow cavalry ruination unit when that comes out. the stormcast shit is all on the same size bases, and all extremely similar in appearance, its probably the easiest counts as army in the game. and after seeing the kinds of heavy conversions some of the best players in the world run at tournaments, it should be no problem
>>93663424We need the Hallowed Knights Lord-Commander, or best boys Knights Excelsior.
>>93664060I'd rather anal vore my evocators than run them as that abhorrent unit
think i've got a list im reasonably happy with. gonna try it out probably next weekend
>>93663424From what we got from rumor monger, index and >Lord Vigilant on Morrgryph >Lord relictor>Lord Celestant > Stormstrike Palladors (not necessarily vanguard the only Stormstrike model we have is the chariot)There some people also speculating that we might get a stormcast felix to tie into gotrek new novelAlso some multipart Reclusian
>>93662171>Popeye quads
>>93664297>stormcast FelixPlease for the love of God no, Felix has been dead for so fucking long just leave him dead
Predictions for nova:>All SCE>New character model>New sacrosanct
>>93663555They said "and more" Warcry we know will get a new edition next summer but right now it might be a setting change into the eye of chotec like how Kill Team switch up from the space hulk with the kroot and imperial breacher into the forge world with the scouts and striking scorpions
>>93664323Who cares
>>93664327As long as none of the warbands are legal in AoS proper I'm excited for that
>>93664334There's zero reason to bring him back besides "Remember this guy?" Him being a regular dude was what made his character good, he serves no purpose now. It was already a really stupid idea to being Gotrek back but even worse they made him way too important
>>93663789And new players are definitely not flocking to blood bowl, the local blood bowl guys in my area are all pushing 50 or more.
>>93664354People still buy them for conversions
>>93664347>There's zero reason to bring him back besides "Remember this guy?"It's the entire reason why gotrek is backmight as well stay consistent
>>93664336>As long as none of the warbands are legal in AoS proper I'm excited for thatWell prepare to be disappointed then
>>93664368Adding a bad decision to a previously bad decision doesn't magically make it good. Gotrek coming back was just so some faggot writer could write "erm, duardian?"
>>93664354If the box wasn't $160 I'd have probably jumped on it.But that also requires someone to play with. All the dads at my LGS are playing Necromunda now.
>>93664368I could see Felix happening if for no other reason than because they kinda wrote themselves into a dead end with Gotrek atm. >Add Malaneth as Gotreks temporary new companion, she's surprisingly popular>Kill her off for no particular reason except maybe author autism as the Gotrek series gets handed off to a new guy>New guy writes a bomb of a Gotrek book, and a reddit atheist companion so annoying that there's like four Gotrek short stories set after the book and not a single one of them even references her existing at any point>Gotrek goes back to the guy who kicked things off, Adding a third female companion at this point would just feel forced, why not do something with the abandoned Felix plotline instead?
>>93664401>abandoned Felix plotline instead?You mean the one where he died and the world exploded? Or the time portal terrible concept that was destroyed?
>>93664401>abandonedYou can just say you skipped Realmslayer, Anon.
>>93664401>she's surprisingly popularI have doubts about that
>>93664422I WISH I skipped Realmslayer, it fucking sucks. But no, Gotrek giving up on his attachment to a dead world is a different thing than settling the question of why Felix is not in the Realm of the Dead even though Snorri was. They left that door open on purpose.
>>93664434Except for the usual edgy retards necking themselves because she's a guuuurl ewwww I saw nothing but praise for her back in the day. She had good chemistry with Gotrek and a good dynamic, even if it was wearing out it's welcome a little bit by Soulslayer.
>>93664445There's no winning with Felix. It's best they just leave him nebulous. Maybe save him for a commemorative model or some FOMO shit.
>>93664401And even if he's brought back, what the fuck they are going to do? Find Makaison and fly with kharadron overlords, looking for something that Gotrek can try to kill himself against? Felix lost everything while getting Gotrek to the shrine of Grimnir in the endtimes.
>>93664434Maleneth was well received
>>93664471I'm not saying I want them to bring Felix back, just that it's possible. Keep in mind GW themselves teased "the return of a beloved character" in their financial report when talking about AoS.
>>93664480Felix can walk around going "Erm, aelves? Aren't they called elves? This is freaking crazy!" And everyone on reddit will clap
>>93662171Real flavours of khorne
>>93664401Skavenslayer and Demonslayer were the peak. It was all downhill from there
>>93663981Yes it's still good, yes I enjoy it but it is still overrated as fuck. As you say, it's treated as perfect by dumb fags merely for being a WFB product.
>>93664487That could also be Astragoth or Drazhoath since we know chorfs are on the horizon
>>93664471>There's no winning with Felix.There is, just bring him back but as a stormcast that got his identity erased along the way.You get gotrek to move one and do something else, you get what's essentially a new character and you get to do any sort of fanservicy interactions like gotrek mentioning a past adventure in the hope felix remembers it, or insulting him because he's a shitty rememberer.
>>93664488
>>93664462>>93664484I'm just saying I've seen more people claiming she was well received than people appreciating her presence, and very soon after the book too, like it's artificial.
>>93664434She made a nice foil for Gotrek and her personality and history were very interesting
>>93664492While I think AoS is generally better sculpted than 40k I have to put WE above BoK by a slight margin. >murder fist tribe>actually cool reason>inverse brass and red scheme actually look good
>>93664522What are you implying
>>93664536
>>93664502I don't think anything even vaguely related to Chorfs counts as beloved if I'm being honest. Not even to GW, who outsourced Chorfs to Forge World to begin with.
>>93664347>There's zero reason to bring him back besides "Remember this guy?" Before I engage What reasons exist to bring a guy back out of curiosity
>Archaon unleashing the Vermindoom served two purposes, to sent a wave of upheaval in the Pantheon of Chaos and to inflict a powerful blow against the forces of OrderWhy did Archaon fuck over his own divine allies? What's the angle here?
>>93663547What a strange selection of timezones.
>>93664567They’re not Allies so much as contractors and if you ever been a contractor you know just how passive aggressive that gets Now imagine that plus chaos schizophrenia. Chaos hates everyone including itself. Archibald is like the truesest representation of chaos even though if you were to tell him he’d basedrage and kill you.
>>93663741Warcry is a thing already, and its campaigns are arguably better
>>93664553okay you got melet me clarify that when i say WE I mean berzerkers of khorne and jakhals
>>93664567He actively hates all gods, chaos included.
>>93664562An important, unresolved story that is required to continue or resolve a currently important story. Gotrek parted ways with Felix in the old world, and accepted that he was gone in AoS, he's not relevant to Gotrek's plot anymore
>>93664553I think the eightbound fucking rule
>>93664567archaon is a non-character
>>93664567Archaon is an internet atheist faggot
>>93664567He really doesn't like them.
>>93664557I assume the majority of the people writing those reports don't care about these settings/games and just saw total war chorf shit and put that in the report to make it sound better
>>93664522Is it really so unbelievable that porn-addled warhammer fiends wouldn't immediately become obsessed
>>93664781More like Maleneth Fishfeces
>>93664781She is a lesbian. She comments and muses more than once about human females being attractive especially when they are in grief and pain.When she was young she had a habit of kidnapping human girls.
>>93664297>MorrgryphWhat is this? Winged mount?
>>93664814You're further proving my point
>>93664827Supposedly it's like the Crowgryph in Skaventide, but bigger.
>>93664827Gryph charger with one more head
>>93664641Then you fucking drool
>>93664638>An important, unresolved story that is required to continue So Gotrek’s closure>or resolve a currently important story.So any of the numerous stormcast or order plots they could add him to. >and accepted that he was gone in AoSSince when even the new books have him thinking “wow that used to be cool”
>>93664939Gotrek got his closure in the first AoS book
>>93664939>any of the numerous stormcast or order plotsWhy would some random empire schlub be in any way important to the stormcast>this guy was in an epic book from the last game, we NEED him for this mission!
>>93664827Morr gryph, morr money
>>93664995im really enjoying painting the one from skaventide, i hope we get a squad of 3 cavalry to go with him in addition to the big 2 headed one
>>93665020You'd think they'd give the Ruination cav Hero units some Ruination cav units to buff, but GW and common sense don't typically go together
>>93663003Let me guess, you need more?
>>93665195>what are prosecutors
>>93665020Give me a unit of 5, tired of this 3 crap. We aren't custodes.
>>93665259Underworld Warbands are >Unique >Legends >OOP eventually So, yeah. Absolute idiot.
>>93665259for my Mordheim warband? yeah, 9 bodies minimum
>>93665195There was a rumor of updated Gryph-chargers, that would actually fit Ruination now that I think about it.
>>93665268that would be too much man, stormcast cav are 5 wounds a piece minimum, a unit of 5 would be 25 wounds, reinforceable to a 50 wound unit. imagine stacking the kind of hefty buffs stormcast can bring to bear on a 50 wound cavalry unit with a 3+ save that can come back at half strength once per game for another free 25 wounds. jesus. i mean yeah, as a stormcast player myself sign me up, where can i buy? but as an age of sigmar player in general that would be broke as fuck
>>93664827It's a gryph with Morr's face
Where's my gnoblar hero
>>93665323>stormcast cav are 5 wounds a piece minimumThat doesn't have to be the case, they can write whatever rules they want. We've been getting undersize units to save space in the starter box going back to 1st.
>>93665270Use the fucking models as gutter runners you crying bitch. Let me guess, you were too stupid to buy this sprue 3x-4x while it was available, even though you apparently are so all about Eshin that you don't give a fuck about the otherwise massive and amazing update the Skaven got.
>>93665374>Use the fucking models as [ANOTHER LEGENDS UNIT]You're quite the dim bulb
Aha! You claim to be a fan of Eshin, yet you neglected to purchase 10 copies of Silver Tower to use the Deathrunners as a reinforced squad of Night Runners... Checkmate, fake fan...
>>93665279A yes the oldschool Mordheim player, who apparently finds it impossible to assort 15 models between the previous Skaven line, the new Skaven line, 3 separate Underworlds warbands, and the miniature conversion skills inherent to Mordheim players.
>>93665261Infantry, learn to read
>>93665384Oh let me get this straight; you are crying not because a unit's miniature's didn't get refreshed, but because the unit itslelf got moved to legends? Wow you're even more pathetic than I initially thought,
>>93665374>skavenschizo is shitting up the thread againAnon, it's normal to be disappointed when you wait years for a faction refresh and for that refresh not to include the units you wanted.People complained with the Soulblight refresh, people complained with the Seraphon refresh, people complained with the StD refresh. You've got to let go of your irrational hatred for skaven go, or at least stop constantly shitting up threads, it's not healthy and it's tiring.
>>9366547212" move
>>93665374>monopose >OOP in a week
>>93665259Unironically yes.Except a little less lanky. These cunts are near impossible to put together once a small bit breaks
>>936654962 wounds, keyword: Infantry
>>93665492>Thinks everyone he's replying to over different threads is the same person while calling others schizos>Other whiny bitches complained, why can't these ones do too?
Whats a good spearhead that has everything starting on the board, and doesn't have all its power in one unit?
>>93665562I'm the only poster in this thread these are all my posts
>>93665623I kneel before Frogg
>>93665562You have a very distinct way of seething, almost every post you make includes the word whining or crying and then often followed up with a curse>>93665562>>93665374>>93662855Makes it very obvious it's the same person, I only visit the general a couple times a week and yet I've seen you seething several times since the skaventide release
>>93665492Who complained about the seraphon refresh.I was here when it happened, no one complained the only controversy was some faggot 'scalie' shit with the kroxigors and 'handprints on crotch' posting. No one thought the new slann looked bad, no one insulted the raptadon, no one hated on the aggradons, the kroxigor were fine and the new saurus were very well received.
You have my sincere sympathies, Eshin players.
Did that fake CoS leak specify what the gargoylian "griffon" would look like? I had already wanted to do some gargoylian stuff ever since they first revealed them but if they're gonna do it better I don't want to waste my time
Does anybody here remember the fake leaks on Age of Sigmar before its first edition released?There were big ones on Warseer.Does anybody remember it?The Nigmos in the underground rivers and all that?
>>93665667nah people complained about sunblood and no big new dinosaur.
>>93665668I bought spider riders to use the spiders for dark riders without thinking about how I would attach them so now I have two units of spider riders that will soon be spiderstomped
>>93665702>people complained about sunbloodLmao why>I need my slightly bigger saurus that's totally not just this one specific character!If anything they should be mad about eternity warden since he was the temple guard hero
>>93665703>HELLOOOOOO
>>93665702And the temple guard not being updated.
>>93665761ah yes, the temple guard forgot about them.
>>93665703I'm using the riders themselves as base friends for my bonesplitterz and saving the spiders for whatever the next beast destruction release is. Was thinking sabretusks and I'll convert a hunter to be more bug-themed
>>93665761It's really weird that they updated starseer and didn't touch something so simple like temple guard, it could have so easily been a dual kit with warriors
>>93665667The new shields are shit but everything else is fine.
>>93665353Hiding
>>93665776>bonesplitterzI have some bad news anon
>>93665761>>93665768We've seen a rumor engine for the temple guard, they're coming
>>93665353I hope we got a honcho or something eventually. I'm really worried they'll ditch the gnoblars in AoS since their whole partnership was a complete geography matter in fantasy
>>93665703remember to separate the legs with a hobby knife to get posing that is twice as good as the official one
>>93665805Which one?
>>93665808If they did they'd have to update all of the ogre infantry at once, as well as the slaughtermaster, butcher and cannon. Basically in order to scrub gnoblars, they'd have to update ALL of gutbusters at once.
>>93665814Is the plastic strong enough to stay like that? I haven't taken them off the sprue yet but it seemed like a lot of the connection was the front/middle of the legs to the torso
>>93665814Seems like a pain to fit on the base afterwards
>>93665353I wish we had gotten trappers for warcry instead of gorgers I fucking hate gorgers
>>93665832I don't know but I know it's a rather common thing to do - I remember seeing it a few times a while ago, so I just googled and found an example, and now I found another one.I believe it's one of those "known conversions" like replacing the Alarith Stoneguard helmet
>>93664977>why would a stormcast Felix be relevant to a stormcast plotI feel like I should call you a retard
>>93665818It's saurus backspines. I mean I guess it could technically be a new scar vet on foot or something, but my money's on temple guard
>>93665928He's nothing special compared to any other stormcast
>>93665702You’re all gay no new Gor-Rok is the true crime
>>93665946What does that even mean
>>93665955If Felix became a stormcast he wouldn't have any more relevance than any other person becoming a stormcast. You're saying he could be relevant to overarching stormcast plots, but there would be no reason to include him in any of those since he has no involvement in any of them already and nothing sets him apart from any basic bitch stormcast
>>93665668Night Runners are 5e kits, Spider Riders are 7e and Arachnarok 8e.
>>93665998>If Felix became a stormcast he wouldn't have any more relevance than any other person becoming a stormcast. Based on what? This is nonsensical of the fact that center and pillar to literally every stormcast story is them reconcile being reincarnated as a new person with their own lives and the friction that comes from those two rubbing together. And weather or not they accept it. Do you think GW would turn Felix into a stormcast to not make stories about him? >but there would be no reason to include him in any of thoseWhat relevance did Kaiser Ven Brecht have before GW decided he was center to the fall of Anvilguard storyline? What relevance did Stormcast Spartacus have? Despite having a model and not being mentioned for how many years?
>>93666050what about the boss on spider?
>>93666282OOP and legends, but 7e like the riders
>>93665830good, they're 20 years old.
>>93665830It's not unlikely that they do update all of those
>>93666282That's scuttleboss to you twolegs
>>93665947>this saurus is bigThrilling character, we're missing so much by not recycling him
>>93666420>this saurus is big. Don’t forget whiteYou say that as if that’s a problem And as if that’s all the sun bloods were supposed to be
>>93666522Sunblood is a pointless role but tolerable, bringing Gor Rok specifically back is horrible and creatively bankrupt
What is the manliest unit in Destruction alliance? (Somebody as manly as Grimwrath Berzerker or Ogroid Thaumaturge.)
>>93666606rabble rowza
>>93666606The humble pot grot.
>>93666606The grot with the monsta-killaz whose job it is to get eaten by monsters and choke them
>>93666566If they ever revisit sunblood it should be some chotec-centered hero with a big crest
>>93659737Are you supposed to wank yourself for a turn or two and try to milk the Daughter's of Khaine ritual system by fully engaging the enemy later in the game when you have stronger army wide buffs?Or is that just setting you back too far.
>>93666675>Are you supposed to wank yourself for a turn or twoI do that every turn
>>93666752Poor form anon.
>>93665715>If anything they should be mad about eternity warden since he was the temple guard heroI'm mad about both. My first ever game, the Eternity Warden held off the warm-blood menace singlehandedly. Now she doesn't even have rules.
>>93666761If I lose, I finish on my opponent's modelsIf I win, I finish on my opponent's models
>>93666817There are no female seraphon
>>93666837Seraphim are an all-female race.
>>93666872Not in my canon, part of said canon I should mention places it above all other canons. Sorry
What's the most suitable thing to run skinwolves as in AoS?
>>93667083The big ghoul things, forgot what they are called
>>93667083kroxigors? I dunno how big skinwolves are really.
As much as i come to like spearhead, whoever wrote the "under one hour games" needs to be slapped in their dick. Im showing a buddy the game for the first time over tabletop sim. and even with the dices and all setup being made easy with that were just done with Round 2 after 2 hours.
>>93667200>tabletop simgo back
>>93667200they wrote that with the assumption you'd be playing it normally, in-person.
>>93667200>first time>tabletop sim
>>93667225Been here for years and i wont leave either>>93667259Even In person, games take way longer than an hour. >>93667260Not everyone wants to or can drop 110 bucks for a starter box for a game they might not even like. Also physical distances exist.
>>93667169>I dunno how big skinwolves are really.Skinwolves burst out from human body therefore they cannot be too large.
>>93664623cool idea
>>93667260You know, if you only look at the top half of that conversion and imagine it's being held aloft by some sort of magical energy, it's a REALLY good one.
>>93667319Is it though?
>>93667153crypt horror
>>93667083depends on the armyideally crypt horrors
>>93667260>To the schizo mobile!
>>93659737Soon
>>93667200games run about 90 mins once you know what your doing
>>93665702When I think complain, it's about the model quality of the refresh
>>93666818> we are not the same
Can I take allies yet that aren't just regiments of renown yet or no
>>93668468No allies are gone until at least 5th edition, probably forever.
>>93661475I'm a redshirt (kill me) and I can tell you that even when you may think it's impossible to a conversation that doesn't even relate to Warhammer, in any way whatsoever, there will be someone that drops the exact same Warhammer-related ebin maymay that has been dropped so many times before it has become uncountable. No matter if you're in the store, going to eat with them on your break, or even seeing one of them randomly outside the environment due to happenstance. One of these dumbfucks will say a Warhammer maymay as their last breath right before they asphyxiate while masturbating to disgusting, Warhammer related porn or a youtube channel. It is frustrating.
>>93668468Sure, you can do whatever you want in garagehammer>inb4 I have no friends
>>93668560Do you retards feel clever when you give this answer to a basic question about the current rules
Long shot. But I hope that NOVA has additional stuff for Spearhead. I've gotten my family to play it, and I want mooooore
>>93668500Damn, that still sucks then. I think it'd be pretty neat to use some CoS with my Stormcast. >>93668560Obviously, yes. But, if I'm going to do a houserule like that and think it up (and fucking up my army if I play with anyone not in the group) then I might as well go ahead and houserule everything I don't like about AoS. Then I might as well play TOW, which I do, but not everyone in the group likes it because they're AoS-babies who think scatter die are too complicated and it is difficult to get new, good blood into the group as it is without basically interviewing them to weed out the potential WAAC and tourneyfaggots, or those with the mentality.
>>93667311Except Chaos gets involved and rules go out the window.
>>93668661If and when spearhead gets new stuff, I'd expect it to come packaged in the new battletomes.
>>93668500Lame, just going to stick to 2e ally rules.
>>93668558I have a friend like that. Terrible misjudge of character on my part. Dude moved timezones away and for a while would still call multiple times a week. If I wasn't certain I am his only actual source of human interaction I'd I've him out.
>>93668996We didnt know we were in the good old days until they were over
>>93668558Only a handful of dudes from my lgs know about total war games. I've sank about 3k hours into the game, before dropping it to focus on miniature wargaming
>>93663819The setting and flavor areGOATed and the campaign rules are still great but the core gameplay has aged pretty terribly.
>>93668558I am trying to socially engineer a friendship with a redshirt for discounts. I know that talking about warhammer would only tire him, what topics should I focus on? What would you want to talk about with a reg at the store? What would make you feel most likely to let him use your 50% discount?
>>93670033suck his dick
Quite proud of my progress today. Normally im slow as fuck, but today from absolute 0 i managed to paint these 5 champions of the realm to my typical painting standards and finish. Feels good. I love how they turned out. Its hard to pick a favorite between the knife master and the go-long guy. What do you guys think?
>>93670193Your Bretonnians look beautiful, but this isn't /towg/ my liege.
>>93670268Oh my bad my bad, Ill be on my way.
>>93670193the highlights are extremely sloppy looking, and all the tiny pictures makes detail difficult to see
>>93670376You can open it up and take a closer look, its an 8000x4000 sized pic
I need advice, how should I finish up the weapons on these Mountain Dew flameseekers? Also, any tips on making the gold runes pop more?
>>93670443>any tips on making the gold runes pop more?Deeper shadows.>>93670443>how should I finish up the weaponsFaux wood and brass fittings.
>>93670443Make old school red wood handles to contrast with the hair
I'm assuming this doesn't have rules anymore does it
>>93670033I wouldn't. Shit like that can get you fired, and I certainly wouldn't risk it for someone. Maybe once in a while for family or I'd let my girlfriend do it if she got into Warhammer, but not regular people or even friends. Too risky. I'd honestly say just apply to be an On-Call since they're needed and necessary and you can get a pretty relaxed job (when you work) and your own discount.
>>93670793I don't mean to be insulting, but I already have full time work and I both cannot be on call because of it, unless they would be paying $40/hour or near there it wouldn't be worth my time value. I would prefer to just befriend, maybe even legitimately if he's cool, a redshirt so I can use the discount.
>>93670865"I'd rather risk someone else's job than maybe work once or twice every other month."For shame.
>>93670946Don't worry I know where GW puts the trackers in the plastic, ill carve them out with a hobby knife. No risk to him.
does the skaventide rat ogres kit have any posability or customization?
>>93670980Nothing major
>>93670980You don't need more than 3 poses. Stop being a grog.
>>93670980You get head swaps.
>>93671008>grogs, the people famous for thinking fielding bricks of 40 identically posed men is a good thing, are somehow the ones asking for more poseswat
>>93671036Just wait a few years and there will be another 3 monoposes for variety if you really want it.
>>93670980the weapons and heads seem are interchangable to some extend
>>93667488>>93667380>>93667153>>93667083As these anons said, Crypt Horrors, or Flayers. Here's my Flayer champ that I kitbashed from Skin Wolves recasts
>>93671113>>93671029okay, thanks. i looked online on the website but they dont actually show the sprues so i couldnt tell. i've been trying to decide if i want to run 1 unit of 6 or 2 units of 6, but if they are that limited i might just stick to 1 unit. i can stomach the odd repeat here or there but i dont like attack of the clones on my minis
>>93671153There's tons of STL's and even people you can buy from that print STL's of rat ogres.
>>93663585>The diseased ones in the Warcry warband are too big of a design changeWhat. They're nigh-identical aside from the tentacles. Remove those and show them to anyone who doesn't play the faction and 90% of respondents would tell you they're probably from the same box.
>>93671904I dont think you even need to remove them? On the leader they look like vines stylized to look like hair, and its barely noticible on the rest, only model where those parasites are a problem is the spite revenant with a whip
Anyone got the Fire & Jade book/deck as a pdf? Looking to complete my collection.
>>93671008>build options bad
>>93670033Try and start a playgroup with him and offer to split a set or two after you've known him for a few months. Or start getting good on your knees
>>93661397Yeah, and Dispossessed aren't leaving AoS either! C'mon now, we know that if a kit is in promo photography it's over and the Griffin is
so uhhhhh......what exactly do freeguild.....do?im looking at them because i've been kind of interested in the models, but looking at their warscrolls and army traits and shit, its a whoooooole lotta 4+ 4+ - 1D with like kind of not a lot of impressive buffs or synergies, the wizards dont seem to do much in the way of support, a TON of +1 to hit bonuses that dont stack.im struggling to actually find an angle here as to how they play, is it just weight of dice and cheap dudes? they dont seem to have anything going for them in the way of gameplay gimmicks or tricks. i feel like im missing something. specifically talking about the humans here, not the elfs or dwarfs
>>93667200My first game against someone who, unlike me, haven't even read the rules before took about an hour
So, are two army kits that will be released during the 4th edition will focus on spearhead as well? By that I mean, are they going to contain spearhead board/terrain/cards
>>93671153You have weapon hands, heads, and claw hands, there are weapons and claws for both right and left arms. Any of them can go on either arm except for the flamer. The heads are either helmet or unhelmeted. They look pretty samey still even if you try to not repeat parts on the same pose, they have that moved the skeleton a little bit in cad thing going, but they're passable if you use the paint job to add more variety and don't just use the same brown fur and green armor or whatever. You could probably get away with 12.
>>93672607>not a lot of impressive buffs or synergiesThey likely have the most and best buffs in the game right now. They shoot and crush stuff with cavaliers/drakespawn knights and hammerers.
>>93672991Maybe? You know as much as we do pendejo
>>93673195Since underworlds and warcry are planned for canning, it would make sense for them to focus on pushing spearhead Especially considering it both works as standalone game and can lead people into getting a 2k army
>>93673205Underworlds probably. I doubt Warcry would be getting cut especially with the new stuff on the horizon.
>>93673205Seems like they're keeping warcry around as a medium to release small supplemental forces for aos much like they do with kill team and 40k. Underworlds is definitely being taken out back tho as it seems like the stuff gw has the most problems sourcing is printed paper materials
no one knows how much money this shit makes, underworlds could still be very profitable for all we know. If they saw a 3x surge in start collecting box sales then they'll sure as shit release more spearhead crap.
>>93673219I haven't seen or heard of anyone playing a game of underworlds in like 4 years anon. Shit has definitely gone the way of the buffalo
>>93670789Not by itselfIt could count as a magical locus though
Spearhead is very quickly becoming the EDH/Commander of AoS. By which I mean the alternative game mode that is almost as popular as the main game. It's longevity probably depends on how much support it gets, but it already fills the light skirmish game feeling pretty darn well. I wonder if it competes directly with Warcry for play numbers?
Yeah I'm not feeling optimistic about this.
>>93673365Warcry is dead so I imagine so. No starter with a rulebook hurt the game, punishing AoS players who buy warcry teams moreso.
>>93673365I'm fairly certain it does. Compared to warcry it doesn't require a lot of terrain and spearhead armies consist of several units, all usable in main game, compared to warcry only giving you one unit with often questionable usability
I wish leadbelchers weren't such a terrible unitLiterally make them 12"/3/4+/2+/-2/D3
>>93673402weird suppository
>>93673440that would be the best shooting profile in the game.
>>93673440>these guys are not great>give them the best possible profile pleaseogre players are fucking retards, and those fattiest being that fast is fucking bullshit enough you cock suck
>>93673468I guess rend could be reduced by -1Otherwise I don't see how it would be the best ranged profileIn my experience with 4th edition, archer units that throw 20-30 attacks with -1 rend melt anything that has save +4 and aboveAlso, lots of armies have abilities to reduce hit/wound rolls or outright deny shooting like idkI don't see how ogres can't have something fun
>>93672397That poster is obviously being sarcastic.
>>93673661It's some weird Cargo Cult thing where everyone acts scared of Leadbelchers becoming usable when in the real world they've been absolute garbage for the entire lifespan of AoS. The only thing they've ever had going for them is sometimes their price dipping so low that they were worth using as chaff.
leadbelcher are perfectly fine
>>93673661>Otherwise I don't see how it would be the best ranged profilebecause math, it does over 20 damage with aoa, they'd have to cost 300 for 4. With priority target reinforced they'd shoot+covering fire and just blow anything off the board.
>>93673695they really should have shoot in combat by default and Blackpowder Fanatics should be a once per game +1 to hit and/or +1 damage for all ranged attacks, as they ritualistically delve into their supply of the best blackpowder
>>93673757they just need damage 2 that's it.
I'm looking for the new battleplans, can anyone help me ? Additionally I'd be interested in the new ptg rules but that's just bonus
>>93673770Like >>93673686 said, some people are scared shitless of leadbelchers posing any threat
So what are we thinking? Will armies without their own endless spells this edition or is that over?
>>93673869Probably over. Endless spells flopped in 2nd edition, had little use in 3rd and already frustrating to deal with in 4th
Will Fyreslayers get a stormcast treatment someday? Will the 1st edition sculpts be replaced with something akin to 3rd edition?
>>93673863you're not getting a full shooting profile on a hybrid melee unit chum, sorry about your luck.
>>93673902we cannot possibly know at the moment, but there's a somewhat reliable trend in having hero models at the end of an edition to either close a wave of releases for that faction or herald an incoming one, and they got eggman in dawnbringer, plus the cliffhanger with their allegedly important character.
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