Previously: >>93916409>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.https://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>TQ:What keeps you coming back to EDH?
First is for reminding everyone you can find a little Magic on /trash/
>>93923349>What keeps you coming back to EDH?The seething shitflinging fights
>>93923349>TQIt's the only multiplayer format
>>93923349its fun to actually play, not that anyone here would know, almost as bad as 40k players with whiterooming without actually playing
Just bought this for $20, how good is this deck compared to the other MH precons?
>>93923349TQ: it's casual so you see more creativity and self-expression than anywhere elseplayed against ring wraiths last week and the week before it was sidar knight tribal who revealed ninjas halfway through
>>93923410>"I'm Jeskai's top guy"
Straight Bolas
Bisexual Ugin
>>93923349>TQthe non-ritual posters
>>93923470Why is non-ritual posting so boring?
>>93923410>$20Surprising, aren't all the MH3 precons expensive as fuck?
hypersexual Ashnod
>>93923410If you got it for like, 75% off MSRP, it's probably crap.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Fifty (50) starting life is objectively inferior to fourty (40)
does anyone have the picture of nadu wearing timbs and a yankees hat
>>93923511is there U/R/W storm lifegain?
>>93923410why is sam hyde on the box cover?
>>93923537its a blue deck so they needed a child molester for the cover
>table constantly focuses me>ask them why>find out it's because I am the "least tiltable" and therefore the best target to gang up on>construct a high power deck to beat back these clowns >they all start bitchingfunny
>>93923557based, true samuraiwhat are your decks, including the high powered one?
>>93923479I'm sorry for your mental illness, anon. Jk not really.
>>93923557somewhat similar:>been known to be a fairly good player>been known to always have it when someone attacks me early fairly early with their flying value engine commander>yet they always come at my throat, even with untapped mana on my boardi love playing with my tards
why yes i am playing a combat damage commander in simic how could you tell
Anyone tried naya enchantress with this guy? Seems interesting making the same chapter of a cool saga trigger every turn
>>93923655not that interesting, plus with his ability you cant re-do the coolest chapter, which is most often the last one
Just got my Light Paws precon in rnPromo pack had Tetsuko showcase and extended art Dusk Legion Duelist so that's a decent 1/2 upgrade crit checkYay>>93923410Honestly, super fun as fuck precon, got mine for $35 shipping included so you're pretty fucking luckyGraveyard Overdrive is the worst, Tricky Terrarain is the best
>>93923410Actually plays really well out of the box. He's incremental value and a 4cmc 3/5 Haste Menace is a very good stat line to have. You don't have to lean too hard on the Energy theme since you're packing midrange value the whole way through.
>>93923377This, berating 3x the opponents possibleIs the goal.
post favorite reserve list cardsfor me its pic rel
>>93923805Love this thing, the amount of entering and dying triggers it causes each turn is hilarious.
>>93923805>>93923831Someone ate my image. Probably the Tombspawns.
>6 lobby>niv-mizzet>"hey niv you got curiosity in there?">"nope">"fair enough">niv uses cyc rift and fierce guardianship
>>93923410I wish I didn't have autism so I could enjoy 20dollar decks. I just spent 350 for a deck that is worse than the expensive precons
Is it normal to feel dirty after buying a powerful and expensive card. this card cost me almost as much as pretty much all my other creatures combined.
>>93923864>answers your question>plays unrelated cards????
>>93923864Rift is based. Fierce is cringe but whatever.
>>93923805>>93923844Ol' Reliable "Choose which way you get fucked in the ass"
>>93923910I paid $40 for a Jeskai precon that had Dockside and have used it ever sinceI don't care, you buy it, you can use it
>>93923910Are you playing a commons deck where every creature costs 1 cent? My swords to plowshares costs double this horse
>overhear someone gloat about their cookie cutter edhrec buildWhat's it like not having a conscience and just playing the most basic shit? What compels people to do this?
>>93924018>overhears someone talking about something they enjoy with another person IRL>seethes about it online Lel.
>>93924029I'm just baffled by actual NPC behavior
>>93924037>someone talking about something they enjoy with someone else IRL>Anon calls this NPC behavior Lel.
>>93923982>>93923844>>93923805sovl
>>93923713>Graveyard Overdrive is the worstWhat makes Disa the worst?
>>93924017i might have bought a few more cards but yeah when i started building this deck it was mostly commons and then i just upgraded from there.
>>93924051It's like that greentext screencap of OP taking pics of kids playing on an xbox in stores and being butthurt about it.
Post spooky commanders
>>93924018>"Yeah dude I love Dino Tribal I just got all my cards in and I'm super excited to play tonight!">Anon in the corner, shaking in autismo rage: "E-Enjoying Magic the Gathering in a way I don't approve of!?!?! I-INCONCEIVABLE INSOLENCE!!!! I'LL BE REPORTING YOU TO THE STORE OWNER IMMEDIATELY!"Bro chill out it's a fucking card game
>>93924080I tried building a cheapo deck twice but then I kept finding cool cards and in the end the price went by a couple hundred.But at least I have a 35dollar foil mondrak now.
Does the stupid bug count as the same commander for dmg or is it a separate commander?
>>93924123its hard not to fall in love with your own creation. i've bought cards each of the last 4 days.
>>93924263yes
>>93924263It's the same creature, it's just now an indestructible 0/1 bug
>>93924123lol this is why me and my buddies build decks under $75 for each other during Christmas as Secret Santa.
>>93923438I hate you so fucking much. This meme is creeping into other areas. I see this shit in /mtg/ now and an Ur-Dragon player at my LGS thinks this is unironically the case.
>>93924355>Ur-Dragon snoozefest is on /tg/checks out.
>>93923410What would you do if Adolf Hitler said you’re his top guy?
>>93924286Yeah, I can't even bring myself to play decks from mates. I just wanna play mine. They feel way more special
>>93924302I don't think I could do that with mine. One of em is in love with proxies, one is a total noob who only buys high power shit to lose against my cheapo deck and the 3rd only buys precons
>>93924540Just make a high power proxy precon for everyone duh
how do you deal with combo decks at your table? i feel theres always massive bystander syndrome because nobody wants to spend a card + mana to kill zulaport cutthroat or whatever
>>93923376>Boros: Muscles>Rakdos: TattoosMost based combination.
>>93924662I'd never pay a single cent for proxies again. They are such trash
>>93923376Still not accurate for izzet (dragon and homosexual)
>>93923483Ashnod isn't lewd. Sure, he will do all sorts of inapropriate things but she does them driven by scientific curiosity, not by horny.
>>93923376>esper>orgasm denial + cuffs + humiliationkino honestly>>93923805pic related, just luv this lil ship lad
Isn't this just basically better than sublime archangel?
>>93923844One of the few non-creatures in my Sidisi deck. Love this thing.
>>93924834
>>93924842it's easier to make copies of the archangel probably
>>93924842I don't get these kinda effects. In what world can you attack with a single creature without it having to wade through hordes of tokens, self resurrecting nonsense, endless blue spells and the random mega buff commander.You guys only playing changeling outcast?
>>93925018Exalted is generally a weak mechanic but it can be a good way to buff your commander without having to actually attach permanents to it
Anytime I think about deck with equipment support I start considering Sunforger and my whole process gets derailed.
>>93923438Same energy
>>93923805
>>93925049It's way harder for them to destroy my 81/81 dogmeat with indestructible and double hex proof than it is to clear the board. Those effects would have to stay on the creature indefinitely to be worth using.
>>93923805mfw
>>93925067the issue is usually if someone just shoots your commander right away before you can fully assemble your voltronwith exalted you just play them again and keep chugging, while equipment has to be equipped again and counters and auras just go poof
>>93925115But the big benefit of equipment is that it can be reequipped. People usually spend an absurd amount of removal and mana to destroy every single one of my equipments because the shitty dog is just immortal. With these on attack effects, you are completely defenseless. And the great part is when the dog does end up dying and I recast him, he brings the dead equipments and auras back with him so I can start crafting my kaiju again.And if all else fails, mantle of fuck you
>>93925018>>93924842Might be decent for the Arabella list I'm making but ultimately probably unnecessary
>>93925204Do you get a lot of mileage out of the junk tokens? it feels like a more traditional voltron like Uril would still be faster
>>93923805Behead MaRo for his crimes against my desert tribe.
>>93925086this seems hilarious to just obliterate your friend's hand with
>>93924113
>>93923557Interesting, I work the opposite way. I tend to attack the most tiltable person to see their funny reaction. I built my voltron deck to one shot this one guy at my LGS who gives boogie level performances.
>>93923664You can
>>93925018Pretty easy to take advantage of exalted
>>93923805The art for this card is dumb.>Destroy all forests>artwork is a stone statue being melted
>>93925018In my World.
>>93925412old mtg be like:>Go to Artist>ask to draw a card called acid rain>go to Designer>please design a card called acid rain>never have them talk to each other>?????>here u go bro
>>93925295Yeah, they are great. Just gotta get used to not playing a land before sacrificing them.Usually a 50% of giving me something good to play.I honestly have no idea what voltron even is, just sounds like a gay transformer so I never bothered looking into that term.But whatever it may be, dogmeat is dogmeat and that's way more hype. I mean who doesn't love fallout.
>>939254243/10 made me reply
>>93925436what?
>>93925417based
>>93925424Free Impulse draw is pretty nuts imo
Am I missing anything?
>>93923438>>93923449Same energy.
>>93925491based tea poster
>>93925500>>93923449what the FUCK could he be reading???
>>93925412If the rain is melting stone, then the vegetation is fucked.
>>93925515Why not a picture of vegetation getting fucked?
>>93925521please do not fuck the vegetation.
>>93925535Please fuck the vegetation
>>93925535I want to fuck all the vegetation
>>93925553I hate that they got a new card but it's the most generic slop of a card ever.
>>93925550>>93925553all according to plan
>>93925559the one in the middle is cuteat least it isn't 3 nasty hags anymore
>>93925618How are these hags? >>93925553 they barely look mid 20's.
>>93925634The middle one looks like shemale shrek.. the right one looks like a 45y old gym mom and the left.. I guess she looks alright.These are real waifus. Adorable little fucks.
>>93925559but anonthink of the POLITICSthe SHENANIGANS
>>93925643>Yellow feverSay no more
>>93925668Anon, those are 2D girls, not asians. You might need glasses.
>>93925679>from Kamigawa>not asiansure bud
>>93925700Anon, if girls with eyes the size of a football, 5m long hair, squeaky voices, never aging bodies and dumb af existed irl, we weebs wouldn't be buying bodypillows. We'd visit that magic land and find our waifu.Now excuse me. I'm off to bed. My Marin and Megumin bodypillows are waiting for me.
>>93925643At first, I wasn't sure how to feel about the Kamigawa anime art; I felt as though it was too.. safe? But, after looking through the ninjas, I think I prefer the Anime Alts to the regular art. Covert Technician in particular, if only because she reminds me of another football-headed synthetic..
>>93925509
>>93925559It's good for Fynn secret commander>piles and piles of green creature tutors to find Fynn>every creature is able to deliver poison counters via Fynn so you can run good creatures instead of 1/1s with deathtouch and nothing else>your real commander is a 4/4 that can gain double strike to put players on a 3 turn clock even without poison counter memes>your keyword soup commander can target opponent's creatures to fuck up combat and police the board>addition of white and better quality creatures gives you a more resilient game plan compared to regular Fynn deck
>havent played magic in a month>the last game I played I won by taking 4 extra turns with ugins nexus and everyone scooped before I could set up my infinite turn comboWhat if that was the last game of magic play? Im getting so busy these days... what if the last game I played I failed at doing what I wanted the most?
>>93925661>>93925559all I see is paying 4 mana each turn to have her become a 4/4 double strike vigilance
>>93925749Stewie Griffin?
>>93923410We're just gonna kill em
>>93925973Nothing stopping you from giving double strike to someone elses creature when they attack someone you want them to attack.
Sad I won't be able to get this.
>>93925991What in the fuck is this art.
>>93925991This looks like one of those alt art proxies but way worse.
>>93926063Alt art proxies are cool thoughever
>>93925973you target other people's creature's dummy>hey if you attack that guy, I'll give your commander double strike>hey since you did something I don't like, I'm going to give that chump blocker deathtouch so he kills your guy>look if you don't attack me, I'll give your guy vigilance so he can protect you from that guyit's gay but at least it's not do thing, draw card
>>93925967What is it you wanted to do most, self-professed foolish anon?
>>93926128Reanimate my karn and loop ugins nexuses with osgir and daretti. I had the one ring and mondrak so I would have been able to dig for my triumphant reckoning with my 4 turns and I know that because I looked after the game was over. I was at the gates of magic christmas land and I lost it.
>>93926166Can't you just go to an LGS and do that? Surely eventually you'll run into a table that can stomach you executing your win without scooping?
>>93926100super gay behaviour honestly
>>93926222Of course, and I could do it with my playgroup too. [Spoiler]ive been simping[/spoiler]
>>93926313t. immy
>>93926166if you set up an infinite where nobody has an answer to it and you are 100% sure to win then what is the point in sitting through it? start up another game instead
>>93926330yes
>>93923885How is your autism preventing you from getting a precon?
>>93923910Sort of? I've never really minded the actual buying but there is certainly a feeling when you play the card and see the power of your wallet and it's effect on games. Not exactly a good feeling sometimes. I'd much rather all this nonsense got reprinted into the ground.
>>93923844This actually looks pretty good. Shame there's no actual Tombspawn token.
>>93923910nope, bought vorinclex monstrous rider+doubling season for a monogreen deck and mondrak+ojer taj for a jeskai token deck and I can't wait to play them
Can we agree it's time to unban this shit? The format can unequivocally answer it now. It's only broken when you get an absolute nut draw which can be said about a lot of card.
>>93926543Why would you unban a two mana ritual that is more egregious than dockside?
>>93926543People bitch about color pie breaks when black gets another card that can do enchantment removal, but that card's been around since the earliest days of Magic and is a massive color pie break (life as a resource is one of black's main things, yet Channel is green). Color pie breaks have been around forever.
post some good balloons
>>93926561There are plenty of other 2cmc cards that can combo and win the game, this one isn't any different and it can be countered.
can someone tell wizards that if I wanted to play free spells I would be playing yu-gi-oh?
>>93925749It's a shame that most magic artist are fucking horrendous. Like, any art student could do better. It's all trash.Nahiri is one of the best examples. That woman looks like a fucking gorilla in all her art.Luckily, there is a jap only version of her which I got for my deck.
>>93925372Wrong.
>>93923910>POWERFUL
>>93926565they REALLY should have done junji ito drawn that, fuck this gay company
>>93926166>I had the one ringNo you didn't
>>93925067>dogmeatHow does your Dogmeat feel to play? I've seen Dogmeat played a few times and each time it got hit early on once and then did almost nothing for the rest of the game. May have just been bad luck or bad lists, and one of the games the guy was just using the mostly unupgraded precon, but I was surprised by how little else it was doing.
>>93925018I mean, it's not like there aren't a decent amount of options to give unblockable or just protection from creatures. There's a decent amount of colorless options to give unblockable if you really need it and some colors have ways to give it naturally as well. Though I will say, putting all your eggs in one basket can be really risky. It's just a risk you assume in that kind of play style.
>>93926839>Tfw got 4 gift bundles and pulled 3 rings out of packs before it was even realised how powerful it isI have exactly SEVEN one rings.
>decks come in mail>spend a few hours sleeving them>realize i forgot to order a commanderwell fuck me i guess i have to print
>>93926902I was one second away from ordering my deck without lands cause cardmarket set em all to english only but the lands only exist in japanese and it doesn't warn when stuff from the wants list is missing.
My selesnya deck has almost no draw power, what do?
>>93927054sissylesnia is wholely about the pilot. you begin to draw people when you offer quickies under the table
>>93927054Post your list so I can laugh at it and be unhelpful and belligerent.
>>93927102Have you considered not being soft as baby shit lmao
>>93927054greater goodguardian projectcolossal majestyhunter's insightharmonize
>>93927219You must have misread my post. I want to call his list shit.
>>93926828Don't worry they saved it for the secret lair
>>93927265beast whispererthe great hengepath to the world tree
>>93926827Are you meming? That card ends the game if it's not countered
>>93927054Bro you're in green, the greatest card draw color
>>93926865Throw one my way so I can use it as a sol ring
>tired of being archenemy so I just stop playing in my group and find a different one>decided to see how the old group is doing the other day>without me to gang up on they've stopped playing magic altogetherI've never felt more reassured of a decision in my life
>>93927402I've had to do this a few times thank god I finally found a pod of people who aren't absolute retards and jackasses. Ironically it's a cedh pod, well the majority often play but when I play it's usually decks that are comfortably around power 7-9 and honestly it feels pretty good.Nobody complains about "unfair cards" they just play, we have fun and finally I get to relax instead of trying to find some way to 1v4 a bunch of idiots who arbitrarily decided I was the biggest threat even when I'm land screwed and the other guy at the table just played dockside and got 30 treasures
>>93927440>had to do this a few times
>>93927345I got you.
>>93927440I think a lot of people stick with bad groups because they're worried about not finding new ones. Edh would be more chill if everyone actually did just self select and move themselves into appropriate groups
>>93927316it's a green card
>>93927316if you actually believe that you're either a brand new player or the biggest retard to plague this general. It's not strong, for 8 mana in white this is pure fucking dogshit and you're a retard for even implying it's strong
What's the fewest number of Dragon's Approaches you could play and not be retarded?Thinking of adding a DA package to Rielle for fun but I like other stuff too.
>>93927542seethe. mass creature buff is a white effect
>>93927634>ohh my god its craterhoof were so boned!!>peh its just moon shaker nothing to be worried about...where do you rejects come from? seriously.
>>93927755it's literally a copy of craterhoof, which came first. white can't come up with it's own good cards if the color pie depended on it
>>93927797and white was mass pumping creatures all the way back in alpha its just putting the effect where it belongs. white effect cope.
>>93927788from real magic instead of whatever power 3 reject table you play at
>>93927634No it's a very good wincon lol you've been brainraped by retards on 4chan into full blown retardation
i am a wotc haterand today, I saw the ghostbuster/chucky/slimer cards and I hate them so muchthese ugly fucking cards look so terrible I can't imagine people buying them even if they liked the IPwhats worse, some cards are only available as those collab cards so if you want a specific one, its only available as the fortnite battlepass of magic
>>93927975> i play my legacy cards in commander because I couldnt cut it at the big bois tablelower your tone when speaking to me
>>93927797Green is "Creature who Big: the Color" while white likes to flood the board with 1/1s so a card that buffs your creatures based on how many creatures you have fits white's playstyle better. The archetypical green deck doesn't benefit from Craterhoof that much because it only has a couple of fuckhuge/fuckhuge dinosaurs and Craterhoof giving them +3/+3 or something hardly makes a difference, while Moonshaker turns your 20 1/1 soldier tokens into 21/21 flying soldier tokens.
>>93928032theyre always in stock anon
>>93926805Not doing your homework for you
When will WotC stop being pussies and print a bunch of Duel Masters cards into the game, complete with placing themselves upside down as lands?
>>93928136Because it's not real.>B-but proliferate and then boast all in the middle of combatNo.
>>93928071Green is also eight thousand mana dorks and elves: the color, hence overrun and similar effects.
>>93928041the entire point of commander is to play singleton legacy
>decide to quit smoking weed>realize I can no longer handle my edh group and disappearwell this sucks
>>93928251I'm on a tolerance break and am now reminded why I picked weed up in the first place. Feeling like a retard is very preferable to being angry all the time.
>>93928251same there's a guy I thought I really enjoyed in the group but when I'm sober I realize he's not only a total moron but utterly grating to be around to the pool that it makes me viscerally upset to even listen to him
>>93928139>placing themselves upside down as lands?U mean this shit?
>>93927853this is irrelevant
>>93928365Yes but without the shit awkwardness of being double-faced
>>93928383Uhh.. Well I dunno how u anons play those kinda cards. I've got 5 of them in my dogmeat and I just never use the backside. I play em front side as land. It's not that hard.
>>93928405YES the anon of stpidest takes is here!never stop posting all your opinions. they genuinely brings a smile to my face every timekek, you are unironically my favorite poster
>>93926601They're just fucking with us, aren't they?
>>93928317>>93928299>addicts act out and act shitty during withdrawals>blame everyone elseI smoke too much pot too but when I come off it and everyone starts annoying me I realize I'm the problem ^.^
>>93928382>white is ripping off of green>actually green ripped off of white>well, uh, that... thats irrelevant...
>>93928251give it a solid month and it'll be all good bro
>>93928466anon.. that's not an opinion. It literally says in the bottom left of the card what the backside does.I.. I have no words. I dunno.. do you like, have to wear a helmet all day.. the special needs kinda helmet?
>>93928479No, he's just an insufferable retard. I don't have this reaction to anyone else in the group. Ironically someone else hated him too and quit cuz of him and I defended this guy at the time too. What a mistake I made.
>>93928479you can't get addicted to weed retard, it doesn't have withdrawal symptoms. Just like how it's impossible to get "addicted" to videogames
>>93928518Objectively incorrect>>93928511Wow I've never seen an addict lie to protect his mind before!
>>93928405Might just be my 'tism but I absolutely hate double-sided cards.Using the WotC-approved proxy note card shit is just awkward as there are cards you will struggle to convey the effect of, and looking through your actual cards just reveals info unnecessarily.Buying 2 copies of a card, one to sleeve normally and 1 to sleeve in a clear sleeve so both sides are visible, is also awkward. You run into the same problem of not know the other side verbatim unless you either look at the clear one or unsleeve it, again revealing info.This concession is fine if you end up with a singular powerful card being double-sided, but with stuff like the double-sided one-land one-other cards, its just a pain in the ass. Some non-sorcery/instants look like they are in play for example.Duel Masters goes for minimum info, with upside-down icons. There's potential visual design space in replicating that sort of thing for those MDFC-land style cards
>>93928534>projecting this hardlemme guess, you're the retard of your group
>>93928487pure conjecture. all I claimed was that moonshaker is craterhoof and that white is not original. white being able to buff creatures has nothing to do with copying a card 1 to 1 no matter who has the rights to the effect in colorpie
>>93928557its not a 1 to 1moon shaker has higher stats and makes the weenies fly
>>93928545You could always just not play those. I refuse to ever buy or use a card that has split text, like.. the weird book thingy where 2 descriptions are on the front. I just find those cards uglier than a nigger crack baby so I'd never use emFor me magic is 90% card art so those are a no go.
>>93928505I knew reading comprehension (or anything else for that matter) was not your strong suit but man, the anime pic really is the cherry on top
>>93928592aight, nice bait or whatever.. I'mma go get my fish dicks
>>93928590>You could always just not play thoseA fair point, but at the same time I feel as though denying yourself functional cards because of that sort of design choice sucks.
>>93928611Hm.. I feel different about that. I would rather stop playing the game than play a card I don't enjoy playing. Or just.. play a different deck that doesn't need those cards.
>>93928518It is and isn't. It's not withdrawal in that the lack of weed isn't causing the symptoms. It's withdrawal in the sense of listening to loud music in your car for a long road trip, then forgetting to turn down the volume when you get home. Then, the next day, when you climb into the car to get groceries in the morning the radio volume kicks you in the dick. Personally, it's still preferable to liver damage from booze or shame culture at church.
me? I stopped playing magic with my group because for some fucking reason they only play between the hours of 11 pm and 4 amI just can't
>>93924704Hold removal for when I see the inevitable combo win
>>93928518Lmao imagine believing that. I was a daily smoker for 7 years, dropped it for 5 months and currently smoking once every two months or so. Sure, there aren't any physical symptoms but it takes a long time before you feel the mental and emotional clarity again and stop being angry and irritable and getting rid of the memory fog.
>>93928749>hop in bed>phone notification>it's a ping for magicEVERY TIME
>>93928798your anecdote doesn't change chemistry, it's a non addictive substance you're just a retard and trying to pretend your natural low iq is some sort of "clouded mind" from your substance abuse when in reality you were most likely always stupid and coming up with a post hoc rationalization
>>93928749this they dont seem to understand that im an old man with shit to do in the morning
>>93928892Yea, you definitely sound like a totally fried faggot.
>>93928963well unlike you I've only started taking weed this summer. So no, I wouldn't say I am. I'd say you're bitter and projecting
>>93927797It's a bad craterhoof which is even funnier, it was supposed to be 7 CMC but being a white card they bumped it's CMC up
>>93928995Ari stopped working on magic a while ago. Surprised he had any connection to moonshaker.>>93927797MaRo had said G/W have the most overlap. Blame whoever keeps giving G stuff over W.
Still trying to make Uchbenbak work. I dunno, I firmly believe there's something I can do here to make it workable. I guess I need more removal and a wincon or two?https://www.moxfield.com/decks/mkuRagNVvEK_q-a9bBNXDQ
>>93923805I love pic related because it's so terrible. Maybe even the absolute worst RL card.
>>93927732Probably 16-20. I could see even as low as 12 if you had a commander who could dig better but that’d be pushing it with Rielle.
>>93927797wotc is too scared to give white banding back
>>93928545cards being double faced sounds cool and convenient until you remember that you have to hold the card in your hand and everyone uses sleeves. Flip cards were a much more elegant "transform" mechanic but I can see why they would want more text real estate.
>>93928383I too wish they would use these instead
>>93929060God, that effect makes me think of all the shitty cards in Prophecy that let your opponent pay x to prevent them from having an effect - Rhystic Study was a standout, but nobody talks about Rhystic Scrying, or Rhystic Cave and for good reason.
>>93924835Sultai Sidisi or black Sidisi?
>>93928167you don't need proliferate
>>93924704You leave my boy alone
>>93928995Cratherhoof and Moonshaker are both 8 CMC
thugshaker cavalry
>>93929254Sultai
I hate this general so much.
>>93923982But gifts ungiven is too strong
>>93929434I hate you too, jerkoff
>>93929646Is that an order?
>>93928892Anon cannabis withdrawal is well studied and no one with half a brain denies it's existence. Not sure why you're bringing uo intelligence when it mostly manifests in restlessness and being irritable. But beyond that it's also known, if you smoke during development, to definitely reduce your limits
>>93929249>study was a standoutNah not really it was never played, because it is and always will be a shit card
>>93928892Anon you can get addicted to just about fucking anything.If it stimulates dopamine production you can absolutely get addicted. It doesnt have to be chemically addictive like nicotine.
>>93929048As much as I'd love to see it work, it's still basically a vanilla creature. The most interesting trick is to transfer the finality counters to opponent's shit, but that's about it.
>>93929930i think dopamine addictions are much more easily waned since you can source dopamine from other joyous activities
>>93929294Stop posting, you're wrong.
>>93930025demonstrably false
>>93929048I like the progress you are makinglooks like it still has some room for more draw spells and ramp>Fellwar Stone>Liquimetal Torque>Prismatic Lens>Mindstoneall under a buck, all cost 2 and all enter untapped.Millikin is affected by summoning sickness but if you like the mill it does double dutyI prefer decks that have a ramp spell in my opening hand, so I usually run between 10 and 12. I have the same philosophy with cantrips. Some cheap ones are >Siphon Insight>Sleight of Hand>the newly reprinted Diabolic Vision >Impulse is great>Likeness Looter is not a cantrip but its card sorting
>Already cut 76 cards>Still have another 33 to cutThis is getting tough
Once the number of lore counters on a Saga is greater than or equal to the greatest number among its chapter abilities, the Saga’s controller sacrifices it as soon as its chapter ability has left the stack, most likely by resolving or being countered. This state-based action doesn’t use the stack.
>>93930271kill your darlings
>>93930271put 66 cards back in, shuffle it all and split into two piles
>go to the lgs>making small talk with a couple of people while waiting for my order>they're bragging about their super strong decks and how I should be careful if we play>decide to shuffle up and play a game with them>turns out they're just playing modified precons>I'm running multiple cards that cost more than their entire decks>the leader of their group is absolutely crestfallen, you can tell he's routinely the big fish around all his friends>my order is ready, grab it and collect my cards>leave while they're still poutingI brought like five decks, why would you and your bros talk a big game like that? Absolutely baffling.
>>93930381Some people don't know the meaning of "Big fish in a small pond"I always err on the side of my decks being less good than they are, which is a different kind of annoying, but I have a couple decks that are specifically jank for lower powered tables.
>>93930381You sound like a douche
>>93930302I'm doing something kinda new to me, so I don't have many. I do have a bunch of duplicate effects though so I either need to cut redundancies or cut different themes.>>93930325Lmao not a bad idea
>>93930325I have a commander for you.
>>93930424go all in on redundancy and all in on one theme
>>93930424>Lmao not a bad ideano thats a terribad idea
>>93930397They were talking about how they go to tournaments all the time and that they run notoriously strong commanders people always complain about. Like I said, I brought five decks at various power levels with me, I didnt know I'd push their shit in until it was too late.
>>93930436It kinda has to be a few themes to be worthwhile unfortunately, but I do think I can cut some subtheme cards>>93930442Yeah I was humouring that anon
>>93930565>Monarch is worse than Initiative or Day/NightAt least try.
>>93930452What were their commanders? It's possible they're relatively new and still think the commander's all that really matters in a deck.
>>93930565Why does the land not continue to burn?
>>93930565>monarchBut monarch is good? Also where is your warp world and insurrection?
>>93930565the deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and
>>93930766Can we talk about how WotC somehow made pirates boring? There isn't a single pirate card in the entire game that makes me think "I wanna play pirates!!!"The depictions all feel weirdly corporate. Like these aren't cool pirates, they're the kind of pirates you'd see on store-brand stationery
>>93930816Mama Cass being the og Ixalan commander was all I needed to see
>>93930816they're playmobil pirates instead of evil bastards who loot and steal. it's probably because they made the "bad guys" from the pirate set conquistadors so the pirates can't be that bad in comparison.
>>93930816They're pirates with ALL the grit and edge removed. I legitimately can't think of a single card of the pirates doing anything even criminal. Which, mind you, that kind of depiction of pirates isn't a BAD one, it's just... Really immature. Kid's show stuff.And this is coming from someone who knows a thing or two about the ACTUAL pirates of the caribbean.
>>93930266Notes taken, thank you
>>93930816You know its bad when Edward Kenway, a literal crossover character, has more "pirate" than anything Ixalan and after put out.
i know its been a long time coming but phryrexian arena being powercrept this directly feels bad
>>93930929drawing a card without losing a life is an unironic color break
>>93930939It's conditional on controlling a creature associated with black. Admittedly, that would be borderline for black, but it also has a penalty for failing that condition in the form of life loss.
>>93930929I can't wait for someone to say phrexian arena is better because you can use the card you draw that turn rather than waiting for your endstep
>>93930963Both arent very good. But the room has upside and simpler devotion.
What commander should I play if I want to my deck to be the complete antithesis of what people enjoy about commander? Anti durdle, anti value engines, the faster it wins or the faster it makes someone lose the better
>>93931257Ruric Thar with a truckload of rampMarisi with a low mana curve
>>93931257There isn't really a unified thing that people like about commander further than making decks and playing them anon
>>93930885I think you're right. Most of the time they're just looting treasure from ancient ruins or shipwrecksImpale is the only card that feels like it wouldn't show up in a kid's show about pirates. Walk the Plank, Hostage Taker, Skulduggery, Hornswoggle, and all of the cards showing off cannons are somewhat criminal, but are still fairly tame and cartoonish.Angrath and Vraska seem the most murderous out of all the pirates and they're not even from Ixalan.
>>93926565Same energy
>>93931343I can't even really remember angrath doing anything remotely extreme. From what I can tell all he's done is par for the course violence for an IP that SHOULD be directed at teenagers.
Besides Marina Vendrell who'd be a good commander for a Room deck?
>>93928251Take up drinking. It's healthier.
>>93931257Look at cedh decks.
>>93931374Literally ANY enchantress commander. There's like 2 legendaries that specifically care about rooms any other will only care cause they are enchantments.
>>93928518He means "mental addiction" which, like everything in psychology, is effectively a theory and you need to have faith in it just like religion.Psychology is about as scientific as tarot cards.
>go to commander night>looking forward to playing new deck>open bag>I left that deck at homefucking fuck god fucking damn it fuck
>>93928518>>93931398You're both retarded. Your body will operate differently if anything is introduced to it habitually. Your neural pathways will form around it and your bodies functions will also adapt to it. Removing the substance will create physical and mental imbalances. Fuck sakes stop talking about things you don't understand
>>93931374I hate the design of this card
>>93931430By this logic you shouldn't be able to diet if you habitually ate fast food, considering all food contains various chemicals.
>>93928793well see thats the problem, someone has to hold up mana to be the table janny while the other 2 guys compete to win
>>93931585hold up mana? no, stax their combo ass out of the table
>>93931663posting the wrong stax to stop combo anon
>>93931701Stop? Just let them combo and respond with your own combo once they're done giving you mana.
>>93931469That isn't at all what he said, but ignoring you randomly bringing up random unrelated bullshit, food addictions are possible, and addictions of any kind can be treated. Having a fast food addiction wouldn't make it impossible to diet any more than having a smoking addiction would make it impossible to stop smoking. It just makes it much, much harder.
Dead general, dead game format.
>>93932029Nah there are external factors. Post a cool card.
>>93931663>>93931701gonna make my Otharri deck more prison now
>>93932029What part of /vg/ did you crawl from?>>93932079Game changer cards are the best
>>93932079
>>93923349Only multiplayer format I can get launched anymore sadly
Is picrel fun?
Do you run:>Fast mana>Tutors>Infinite combos>Stax pieces>Counterspells>Rhystic Study>Partners>Instant speed removal
>>93931257Going to second ruric thar. He's been a cedh metabuster off and on over the years and punishes durdling and value engines hard.
>>93932362Yes to everything but partners.
>>93932362>Fast manaI've got a Mox Amber in one of my decks, but I struggle to remember which one. And I'm considering putting one into Sidar Jabari.Otherwise it's pretty much all talismans, sol ring, and like other 2 cost mana rocks.>TutorsAs many as I own as often as I can>Infinite combosI think I only have this in Urza to get a Thoracle win, but more or less I'll say yes>Stax piecesAs many as appropriate if possible>CounterspellsLike 11ish in Urza, pretty much none elsewhere>Rhystic StudyYes>PartnersI can't find a pair of Partners I like>Instant speed removalI like having a bit of this on hand, yeah
>>93932150one of the generals that goes through 5 threads a day
>>93932309He's a spellslinger/voltron hybrid. Just accept that most modal spells are inheritly gimped and you use the most mana efficient ones. I also run Stunt Double effects in mind for flavor and getting more of his triggers.
>>93932421Lose the trip
>>93932362Everyone runs sol ringWhy would I not use tutors?Infinite combos are a valid wincon. Not everyone wants to swing gishathsDepends. Do people genuinely consider shit like ghostly prison "stax"?Why the fuck would you not run counterspells in blue?No.Define partners. Do you mean ALL partners (including doctor's companion and friends forever, which are way more restricted) or just the OG "partner with anyone" stuff?Yes I run instant speed removal. Why would you not?
>>93932426>the ones with the most schizos/shitpostersSheesh. Sounds rough, anon.
>>93932438That nigga made it through /assg/ with his trip intact. This soft af general isn't going to make him take it off.
>>93925018I will say I specifically like exalted in my Myrel deck, since you can keep swinging and shitting tokens even though she's kinda smol in most board states, and in my King of the Oathbreakers deck since it's an easy way to "voltron" him up since auras don't work. The power boost snowballs pretty fast in those decks.
>>93932362>Fast manaPulled a LCI mana crypt and put it my meme ashling deck for more ramp if that counts>TutorsUnconventional tutors like muddle mixture>Infinite combosNot on purpose but sometimes running a deck you'll find something loops forever >Stax piecesBlood moon and RIP aren't stax they're hate pieces so no>CounterspellsIf it synergizes>Rhystic StudyI pulled the anime version so it'd be a shame not to>PartnersFor 1 jank deck but 1 partner is just for color>Instant speed removalYou'd be retarded not to
>>93932362>Fast manaSome more than others>TutorsSee above>Infinite combosSee above>Stax piecesI have Tymna+Kamahl and Klothys for that if we're talking dedicated stax>Counterspells2~10 depending on the deck>Rhystic StudyOnly 2 decks have it>PartnersReyhan+Tevesh Szat; Tymna+Kamahl, Silas Renn+Sidar Kondo>Instant speed removalI have a Toshiro deck lol
>>93932447Speaking of Doctor's companion, I feel like the way they worded that shit was terrible and will get worse as more non-Who doctor type creatures are added. I wonder if anyone tried pairing a doctor companion with Arcade gamon or shapeshifter only to be told they can't. It should actually read>You may have two commanders if the other is a Doctor Time Lord with no other creature types.Since that's what it actually means.
>>93932501The Doctor isn't "a Doctor", though. It has nothing to do with the character being a "Doctor" type creature, it has to do with them being "the Doctor", a specific character. If you want to get technical, the Doctor shouldn't have the "Doctor" creature type, since he isn't a doctor.
>>93932516The actual ruling in game terms as to what constitutes as "The Doctor" is exactly what I said. "Time Lord Doctor. No other creature types." That's the criteria in the rules.Otherwise I could pair Clara and Morphon.
>>93932543"Time Lord Doctor with no other creature types" is very long and clunky, "the Doctor" is shorter and very clearly intuitive to anyone who has ever so much as heard about Doctor Who.
>>93932566And what about people who don't consider a septic tank fine dining?
>>93932501You can't pair her, but her "do it twice" ability works on anything with a Doctor creature type
>>93932516>>93932543>>93932566Wow, who knew the rules of some gay british show would be so complicated when put into mtg?
>>93932579Why would you be using, or even aware of, a Doctor Who card if you know nothing about it? If you're just randomly searching scryfall or whatever and stumble upon it, wouldn't the phrasing "the Doctor" on a card from the Doctor Who set tip you off that it's not referring to just any doctor, but the titular Doctor?
>>93932362>No because it's gay>Only in limited capacity and never with wincon access>No>No>Yes>No>None of them are interesting>If you don't do this you are the problem
>>93932623I can't play magic alone.
>>93932589Yeah there was the whole thing during spoiler season way back for the Doctor Who products where there wasn't exact clarification. So logically people were like: "Hey maybe I could Orvar or Morophon as my commander. After all they are a Doctor."
>>93932623>Why would you be aware of UB slopMaybe I could ignore it if it wasn't being poured onto every facet of the game.
>>93932660Those people were illiterate, the card very clearly says "the Doctor".
>>93932665>maybe i could ignore it if i wanted to because i hate it>so i'm gonna also theory craft with the cardsyou make no sense
>>93932501why is doctor who surrounded by dimes constantly
>>93932692it's the only way to get people to watch british television
>>93932692Dimes?
>>93932710grandpa it's time for bed
>>93932676You'd have to be a doctor who fan to know the distinction so naturally nobody came to that conclusion
>>93932566>>93932623Honestly, if someone wanted to run a companion with any Doctor, I would let them. I also let people run 10 card wishboards, venture into whatever dungeon they want, and use paired legendaries like Brothers Yamazaki as partners. My group also doesn't use commander damage or planeswalker commanders.
>>93932676It is forever and will be shit wording. Just as dumb as Time Lord being one creature type. I don't give a shit how clunky the wording would actually be, its about as bad as having a Day 0 errata on your card text.>(You may have two commanders if the other is a Doctor Time Lord with no other creature types.)
>>93932739Only dimes I know is when someone attracts lots of money. Which doesn't make sense with "surrounded"
>>93932784a dime is 10 centsdime is 10 (out of 10)she's a dime = she's a 10
Anyway I cast One with Nothing from the top of my library. I'll demonstrate for you.
>>93932710>>93932784Dime is a play on the word "dame" which started out as a respectful title for a matriarchal figure but eventually got used to describe beautiful women in general.
>>93932801>>93932807I have never heard of this and it sounds like some 1930's shit.
>>93932805i'll mana tithe my copy, no i don't pay the 1
>>93932805Too bad no companion pairs well with him. They're all just "Oh yeah...that's there"
>>93932692If you were an immortal time traveler wouldn't you surround yourself with prime pussy and convince them to live in your magic flying house with you?
>>93932692Because ratings.Reminder Nardole was best companion.
>>93932830Its not. From looking it up its a 1979 romantic comedy movie called "10". If you want to look it up also type in "bo derek"
>>93932830It is. Old things periodically get dusted off and used again when young people rediscover it.
tfw im an oldschool chad trapped in the body of a new mtg player.. have yet to find anyone to play with irl that has the same approach / taste in the game to get some really comfy games with the old mtg feeling / vibe. instead i just gotta make due with being that one guy at the table with the really soulful old border deck while everyone else is like "umm why are your cards so ugly anon i can barely read that.. anyway i summon this gay transformer piloted by hatsune miku and black doctor who" fml bros where are the 50 year old boomers that play old school goblins
>>93932807I thought it was rap slang. Like dime as in short for a dime piece, or a perfect ten. It could have also resulted from dime sack, a 1 gram bag as opposed to a nickle bag or half a gram, or "dropping a dime" as in providing an assist in basketball.
>>93932649Blue players can
>>93932801What is this ghetto slang nonsense. Speak like humans
>>93932501>>93932516>>93932543>>93932566Is "Time Lord" a creature type, or is he both "time" and "lord"?
>>93932901Is Uncle a creature type?
>>93932901It is an actual creature, specifically it is a singular type the same way elf or goblin is a singular type.
There's no reason Time can't be a creature type. They just made "Glimmer" a creature type.
>>93925086>>93925338honestly i really like this card, i might test it out in edh, it would fit in my grouphug deck as a way to accomplish two things. the main one being intel - when you get to look through their 99 you can get an idea for their deck in the process, knowing what to anticipate potentially and perhaps even share that information with the other people on the table as needed for politics. the second one though would be to make a deal with someone to get them the hand they want in order to deal with the others / get back in the game if they've been behind.main issue is that we're looking at 6 mana, and it's telegraphed unless we can untap permanents, it might draw some heat and get bounced, which could cost us even more mana to play something like heroic intervention, or pic rel.
>>93923805I have over one hundred copies of this card
>>93932888Kek, very nice
>>93932951Old cards look like russian fakes kek
Who the fuck is Jack?
>>93929249Rhystic Tutor and Browbeat are funny cards as nobody wants to pay when they are in stack but at the same time doesn't want to give the caster the benefits.
>>93932807What's the play on words here anon? It's 10/10
>>93932362>Fast manaYep>TutorsYep plenty of them>Infinite combosYep>Stax piecesTrinisphere is the goat>CounterspellsEven my lier deck has some counters>Rhystic StudyYep>PartnersDargo/jeska is the only combo with soul, punishing value decks by swinging for lethal turn 2 with dargo is fun>Instant speed removalEven retarded Dino swinging Timmys run StP, only actual sub 80iq tards don't run instant speed removal
>>93933304Why are you an asshole
>>93933330Being archenemy and still winning is fun
>>93933349I'm impressed u still have people to play with. I'd just play vidya on my phone or go do other stuff.
it's like you can tell who has sex and who doesn't
>>93933361You are implying he does. A lot of people in this thread are #nocards who only consume youtube videos, theorycraft their decks on moxfield and havent played in forever.
>>93933389Hold the phone.. those kind of people exist? I mean I love building decks on archidekt for funs like any other anon but I actually buy most I've built and play em with mates.
>>93933373right after i posted this the virgin to my right tried to swing out on me with his +64 thromak and when i declared my multani as blocker he tried to "gotchya" me with an instant speed destroy target creature spell>mfw multani has shroud
>>93933361Pods in my area are high power so most of them are doing the same thing. Besides that I'm not a sweaty neckbeard who gets mad about losing a children's card game, I take care of myself, enjoy the game, talk, laugh, help people with theory crafting or deck builds. People will put up with all sorts of cancerous builds if you're pleasant to play with.
>>93933492You play stax and blue.. nobody else is playing the fucking game. They are just sitting there, watching you play a solo game. This isn't about losing or winning. You literally aren't allowing them to participate
>>93933506>implying I only play stax and blueGood players can wriggle out of stax and play around counters, and if they can't there's 2 other players to work with.
>>93933475Ah I see your playing long game of multani.
>>93933588i lost, the thromak guy owned us all in the end by pinging huge counter numbers off a kediss that nobody (including me) removed all game. i could have on my next turn but alas the writing was on the wall. if i had a better start i could potentially have multani out at turn 3-4 but i don't usually like the heat. games like this one where i can get howling mine + font of mythos / rites of flourishing / horn of greed, are usually a lot more entertaining, cause it gets everyone online way faster so shit can really hit the fan, but sometimes they're wise to it and archenemy me just on the percieved threat of multani before i ever even get him out. i prefer waiting out everyones removal stuffs and seeing what we're dealing with in general before i get him out cause i don't want to waste mana on resummoning him versus building up more engines to really pop off when i do bring him onto the field.
>>93933373>>93933475You sound underage
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>>93933660lighten up chud, these people were nice and i enjoyed playing with them and don't actually think anything negatively of them i was just bantering while waiting for my next turn.
