So, is Titus now the face/main character of 40K? This is very odd.
Scale creep is getting out of hand.
>>93936330>cad sculpted>monopose>tactical rock>primarisDoesnt seem any different to any other marine model from the past 10 years
>>93936330What is that pose, why are primaris so lanky
>>93936383>why are primaris so lankyStormcast got called fat so they went the other way.
>spending tens of thousands on a statue to commemorate a flop
>>93936442>people play the campaign and then move to something elseShocking.
>>93936442Those numbers are good though. Like really good.
>>93936465If it doesn't have literal World of Warcraft 10 million chinese playing fa/tg/uys barely register. Yesterday I saw a post claiming all of these "dawn of war secondaries" were invading as though it were 2004 again
>>93936463>>939364652/3 of the playerbase lost in less than 2 weeks isn't good, especially for a live service game
>>93936475It isn't aiming to be live serviceIt was just released unfinished.
>>93936475You're a retard. This happens to literally every triple-A game. People hop on to try it out when it's new, then move on to other stuff. Those numbers are still alot higher than most other live-service games. Destiny 2 wishes it could pull half that many players anymore.
>>93936475It isn't a live service game, though. It's a single player game with a couple of extremely dated multiplayer modes and some modern DLC season pass garage bolted on, and publishers have been doing that for twenty years already. Like, I know you learned a new buzzword from the Concord debacle but please at least learn what it means before you start repeating it. It doesn't mean. "any game I don't like," it is a specific subgenre of always online multiplayer games.Helldivers is a live service game. DRG is a live service game. Overwatch is a live service game. Space Marine 2 is not.
>>93936442>>93936475Considering SM1's numbers this is fucking insanely good
>>93936330You missed the general.
>>93936442The current all-time peak is 225,690, and as of typing this post it's got the 16th highest current player count on Steam Charts (ahead of Stardew Valley and War Thunder)Besides which, it's a cross-platform title and has apparently just crossed 2mil sales combined between PC, Xbawks, and PS
>>93936514>it's not live service, it's just offering a continuous product full of micro-transactions to keep the server running>>93936528It's a coop game with always online "singleplayer", also see above. Live service>>93936552For a warhammer game sure, but for any AAAA video game this is a flop
>>93936606The game barely broke even
>>93936614What was its budget?
>>93936528It is coop game.Even that story campaign is designed coop in mind.I hope that SM3 has pure single player campaign.Maybe coop campaign too.Just drop the pvp.
>>93936620200 mill, considering it spent a decade in development hell that's pretty reasonable. Especially compared to other big games like GTA 6 with an estimated budget of over a billionThis is GW's first huge investment into the live service cash cow model, shame it's going to be completely dead by October
>>93936442>>93936608>>93936614>>93936643Cope.
>>93936606>barely higher than Call of Duty (actually 4 different CODs + next years)FLOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>93936643>that's pretty reasonable.>Especially compared to other big gamesWait, so you've just made up a number?Space Marine 2 is obviously not a AAA+ game, it's at absolute best a double-A game, why the fuck would you use GTA 6 as your benchmark?
>>93936679They spent 200 million USD, released at full price, and all from a studio of 3500 people. Its AAA, stop coping.
>>93936608>DLC Season passYou get all the content>Live serviceMissable eventsMissable content>Cosmetic season pass/dlcAll the main content is freeExcept skins that we sell to support our gameSM2, KF1 RS2V>Micro transactionBuy our money to buy over priced skins and lootboxesLines aren't written in stone
>IT'S A FLOP>WHY IS THIS VIDYA NOT SOLD OUT? A FLOOOOOOOOOP>A TRILLION BILLION PEOPLE AREN'T PLAYING IT RIGHT NOW A FLOOOOOOP>HNNNNNNNGGH I'M FLOOOOOOOOOOOPINGIt's all so tiresome.
>>93936679Helldivers is AA, releasing at $40 with a studio of 120See >>93936708Space Marine 2 was an incredibly high budget game obviously built around maintaining player engagement. They just fucked up like Destiny did and forget to include more than 10 hours of content in the base game
>>93936717>live service is just FOMO>mini-dlcs for selling cosmetics aren't micro transactions>2 years for a $60-$100 game to be worth its price isn't life servicelmaolol
>>93936338Nice
>>93936330Better Titus than Gulliman the Usurper
>>93936741Your lack of knowledge screams underageOr troll
>>93936800>zoomer defending cosmetic microtransactions calling someone else underagekek
It’s crazy the 40k posters here themselves wanted this game to flop hard./v/ is having multiple better 40k threads daily talking about lore and miniatures better than /tg/ now
>>93936708>They spent 200 million USDAgain, where is this number coming from (and, no, "it was revealed to me in a dream," is not actually an answer)? You are just making shit up>and all from a studio of 3500 peopleSaber Interactive's got a staff of 2,700.It's also a studio that's working on a huge number of games concurrently (including publishing other devs' titles), not an entire studio developing one game at a time
>>93936330Way too skinny, Titus in the games is thick
>>93936852Its horse armorAnd its dlcNow fuck off
>>93936608My guy, I'm literally playing the game on a Steamdeck with the Wi-Fi off. It is not always online.
>>93936475>live service gameIt isn't you retard. A game that sells 2 million copies isn't a flop in this or any other universe either.
>>93936330Fucking love Titus!
>Titus serves in the deathwatch for 200 years>Is the exact same boring ultramarineMaybe Tzeentch cursed him to be boring
>>93936330>This is very odd.Why?
>>93936353This. How am I supposed to know who this particular faceless space marine is?
>>93936353He has that chain on his arm
>>93936442Wow you literal transvestites are still seething about how we won?
>>93937894GW didn’t create this character. It’s not an OC from their books. They had no part in his creation.
>>93937812Mate, this ain't Black Myth Wukong
>>93938950Yeah, it's a game that succeeded without being chinkslop.
Why are you taking this fag's bait? Its bad enough on /v/.
>>93938938Since when does GW give a shit about that? They're always trying to get normies into buying plastic army men, and SM2 is the biggest casualfag entry point into the franchise they've had since they got Henry Cavill to talk about doing a series. They're following the money.
>>93936442How consooomer brain broken does someone have to be before they start spending their time making posts where they rationalize about the success/failure of corporate products? It’s like the ancient Greeks coping about storms or their family dying to random diseases by describing the emotions of their gods. Only the gods to you people are corporations and products
>>93938938You seriously believe he had no say when designing Titus?
>>93936330Well in what is it now, 7 years? Yeah in about 7 years, GW have still completely utterly failed to "sell" Primaris as a concept to the core audience. Oh lots of people buy the models, they have little choice if they play the game and want to collect a Marine army that doesn't suck balls, but the only parts of Primaris design and fluff anyone's ever had any genuine praise for have been things that make them more like classic Marines. SM2 is their big chance to win people over, but it'll never work because in the end the knockoff will never be as well regarded as the original - even people who weren't there to appreciate real Marines when they were the only Marines will still regard them as superior, the same way most people look back fondly on how their country used to be in decades before they were even born; most people may be *simple* but they're not *stupid*, and are capable of comparing two things and discerning which is superior.
>>93936442>>93936475can you go back to /v/numbers-autism is genuinely a plague
>>93936330It's a shame he got such a crap miniature then. What is this pose even meant to be?I wish GW sculptors would use references or at least try a pose physically before committing it to miniature.
>/v/igger takes any opportunity on any board to be an obnoxious retardThat place is worse than pol nowadays
>>93936330Better than fucking cato sicarius
>>93936330skub marines are not cool and never will be. they made the character look retard for corporate IP shilling reasons
>>93936330Same energy
>>93942431Being vastly superior but dumb normies hate you for no good reason?
>>93938938They had no part in creating half the factions in warhammer. Why would lack of originality stop them now?
>>93936330Wait... Titus looks like Henry Cavil... Fuck. The Amazon show is going to be about Smurfs.
>>93936330I mean, he's an Ultramarine named character and protagonist of a really big game, how is this surprising even in the slightest
>>93936338tgeyre increasing the model size to sell more paint.
>>93936608>for any AAAA video gameInteresting, considering there's no such fucking thing as a "AAAA" video game.
>>93936442As a general rule the number of reviews x 25 equal the number of sales of a game on steam. 58,971 x 25 = 1,474,2751,474,275 x 60 = 88,456,500I wouldn't call an estimated 88.5 million in revenue a flop. And that's just the steam sales too.I wonder how much GW will make from the licencing of this. And how much they make selling space marine models.
I'll probably get the game on it's first discount, for some reason I'm willing to shill out more for a box of gaunts than a video game.
>>93943224You forgot steam cut of 30% nigga.
>>93942809New Coke introduced the plague on soft drinks that is HFCS. For that reason alone it deserves to be despised.
>>93936330Its /v/ who also brought Oldhammer back. You religiously buy all the new figures, you praise the fem-custodes changes and religiously kiss the ground beneath Games Workshop, then it turns out its the video games that actually matter.
>>93943167As the "AAA" comes from investment reliability, the brainless money-printers like EA's sports titles could count.
>>93943167>there's no such fucking thing as a "AAAA" video game.Term has been in use for a while in two forms AAA+ and AAAABasically games that cost hundreds of millions and require hundreds if not thousands of workersRemember when GTA4 was biggest thing?Well its basically that manyfold.
>>93936475>2/3 of the playerbase lost in less than 2 weeks isn't goodyeah, it's about average
>>93936879>where is this number coming fromi made it up
>>93943946>HFCS>in cokeWhat? Is this some murrican thing I'm too European to understand?>>93944172>Its /v/ who also brought Oldhammer backWhat oldhammer? Space Marine 2 is nuhammer, it have all nu GW bullshit starting with primaris.
>>93944602Considering how many AAA flops there have been recently, I wouldn't take their self described reliability indicators at face value.
>>93945165High Fructose Corn Syrup(HFCS) is a sugar dense liquid so it is easier to transport and incorporate into a production line than a powder.Organic powders are a notorious fire and even explosion hazard
>>93948191It's more to do with corn being cheaper than dirt thanks to wildly generous government subsidies. Anything you could use corn or a corn byproduct for will be cheaper 100% of the time. Sometimes it's even cheaper than not having anything at all.
>>93948191I know what is it, but what have it to do with coke?
>>93948296They put it in Coke.
>>93936608>to keep the server runningthat's not only not what live service is about, it's not what microtransactions are about.It's about profit.But I do agree it's taken the live service pill and that is disappointing.
>>93936330It's because GW knew the game would sell well and made a statue as part of the promotion. Now that the game is out what else are they gonna do with it?
Scouts are $80. Jesus Christ. What the fuck.
>>9395086640k players fucking up the price for kill team
>>93950997Do you understand how retarded that sounds to any business that wants money?
>>93951283All the kill team only teams are 65 and some of them even come with more plastic than those scouts, so care to explain why GW wouldn't jack the price up because there is also demand from 40k players
>>93936330>This is very odd.Literally how.
>>93951294Because price gouging like this pisses away good will of the customerbase. GW did it to themselves before and they just pulled themselves out thanks to vidya licensing
>>93951347GW literally don't care and enough people will continue buying their minis
>>93936717>Missable events>Missable contentThere's no events in this game thobeit
>>93938950>It's a flop because, despite not being a flop, it could have been even more of a not-flop!Can you grasp at straws any more desperately? Just go back to pulling development costs out of your ass. Tell me SM2 is a flop because it cost a BILLION dollars to make.
>>93941838>What is this pose even meant to be?It's called running, anon. You might have seen it on TV.
>>93949882Not where I live they did not. I'm quite sure hfcs in used in soft drinks mostly in murrica
How do you do fellow Ultramarines.
>>93936717THE devs already confirmed that the stuff from events will always be available.>>93936608sm2 its a AA game at most and it did bank cash.
>>93936442>>93936475>if a game isn't at its all time peak playerbase then it's dead
>>93936330I see nothing wrong with this, at least of the space marines themselves, Titus is awesome
>>93936442Yeah yeah go dilate about it.
>>93941132"Primaris" isn't a problem, the dogshit force org and unit org is though.Just gimme primaris as trad tac squads, etc, and I'd have no issue. Although to be fair they DO seem to step on the toes of decades of some pretty neat chapter lore. Girlyman has really damaged the whole point of the setting, that humanity's glory days are far behind it and even the marines are basically just fading shadows of better times.Primaris would have been better as 30k marines. Although irl they were just an excuse to sell new, upscaled models, which didn't require any lore rationales at all. Literally just start selling them. It'd hardly be any more jarring than gonig from those old school monopose minis to the more dynamic pose ones for example.
Weird.
Finished the single player and co op parts if theis game, went to my lgs and got a snap together marine have put him together and started to paint him to see if I like the hobby.
>>93936643Anon, Space Marine 2 is -maybe- a 25 million dollar game.
>>93936330Titus teaming up with Malum Caedo when?
>>93936353>No golden fucking laurels on his helmet>Almost no visual battle damage>No distinct feature or extra detail you can add to a life size statue like interface ports, mechanical access slots and other things you'd expectWhy the fuck are they such amateurs, also why a helmet? That thing better be 2.40 tall in real life excluding tactical rock.
The fucking cope here is unbelievable.>It didn't sell well!It sold extremely well.>It cost 200 million dollarsConcord cost 200 million dollars. SM2 is not fucking Concord people. You know what this game would've looked like if it had had a 200 million dollar budget? It would've had 600 dollars on release. They could've modeled and sold a full cosmetic pack for every first founding/HH legion at launch, I can't even BUY a fucking Night Lords helmet.Where do you people think the money goes? 200 million dollars would be enough to pay the entire team of Bethesda to do nothing for 20 years.
>#1 seller on Steam for over a week>dropped down to JUST the top 10Yeah, totally a flop
So is that game canon or not? People started to discuss it being canon but I thought it was officially not canon? Also it sounds insane that Titus wouldn't be canon now that he is by far the most famous and popular space marine even though Cato Sicarius is the de facto protagonist
Why didn't Roboute Guilliman just make Cato Sicarius, the greatest ultramarine and hero of mankind who isn't Roboute Guilliman himself a chapter master of his own super-marines, the Catomarines?
>>93964743Because Cato is the strongerest but he's also the dumberest
>>93964716The SM game series is alt canon. It's very close to real canon but there is no Captain Titus in the real 40k.
>>93938192Maybe he was recruited from a fashion conscious biker gang?
>>93964716Everything is canon. In the past SM1 was in an alternate timeline where sicarius is captain of a different company. SM2 is now in the present timeline, and Titus was captain before Sicarius, which causes a few timeline issues but theyre just going to brush past those. Also Titus is now the protagonist of 40k.
>>93964896>Also Titus is now the protagonist of 40k.that will feel weird after decades of Cato being some kind of near chosen one figure doing a lot of ridiculous feats and being the best ultra ever
>>93963527>also why a helmet?Looks better at 1:1 scale than a plastic face
>>93936442How in the fuck do those numbers indicate a flop?
>>93965003What has Cato really done? Killed one warboss (with help), jobbed to Tau, jobbed to Necrons, irrelevant against chaos in the ultramar invasions. Titus 1v1'd a daemon prince, he's easily chapter-master tier.
I hope Titus and Cato end up like Batman and Robin or Obi Wan and Anakin with Titus as the mentor/former commander, their personalities would fit well
>>93952383It looks more like he's about to hit someone with his sword-like object, kick them, and shoot them at the same time because he couldn't decide which option to go for and as a result will end up losing his balance.
>>93936608That's absolute cancer. Glad I don't care about>primarisslop.GW is unlikely to license anything good ever again.
>>93964772Nope, both games are fully canon per GW.
>>93963526boltgun should remain fanfic
>>93942809People who liked Coke didn't like New Coke, people who liked Pepsi just kept drinking Pepsi, it was lose/lose for Coke. To be fair, GW has a bunch of newer players saying they actually like Primaris, which is what Coke was hoping for with New Coke.
>>93974241>GW has a bunch of newer players saying they actually like PrimarisThe vast majority of older players love Primaris as well. It's only on here that you find tertiaries who decided to make this a battlefield in the culture war.
>>93974287>The vast majority of older players love Primaris as well.The vast majority of older players either love primaris, or stopped playing 40k.
I just think the Primaris helmets are lame. I liked the Mk8 frownies better. Heaven knows how good the beakies were too. Let us swap helmets, wtf.
>1980sVideogames are shit like Tetris, and therefore superior to modern "gaymes">1990sShadow of the Horny Rat brings hentai to warhammer>2000sBlood Ravens are the face of warhams>2010sTotal War Warhammer and Karl Franz are the face of Warhammer>2020sTIGHTUS and Dreadnaught are the epic new 40k memes, all the tertiaries say they love how the dreadnaught wants to punch magnus in the face.
>>93963527>also why a helmet?so that it can just be generic Primaris once the game is no longer relevant
>>93936471>mfw I was the dow secondary/tg/ and /pol/ have the oldest fanbases of any board, except /biz/ with that tripfaggot Scoops and that other tripfaggot Baggie since both are in their 50s. You are here forever.
>>93974382Precisely no one stopped playing 40k over Primaris.
>>93969382No, he's running, I know you have this retarded hipster urge to talk shit about GW and Marines especially because they're the most popular wargaming thing, but don't let it overcome your rational thinking, ok anon?
>>93974571I did
