GROND editionPrevious thread:>>94076218>New to The Horus Heresy? Here’s Everything You’ll Need to Get Startedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#the-horus-heresyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#the-horus-heresy>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics>HH1 Black Books<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>NqlCmSpI>HH2 Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>1rki2Q6D>Miscellaneous Extras (Visions and Old Rules)<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>Q61izSiS『Adeptus Titanicus and Legionis Imperialis』>Adeptus Titanicus Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>IukARSLT>Legiones Imperialis Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>Fi9kQSwB>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.orug/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>homemade missions:https://clawsandfists.blogspot.com/2019/09/matched-play-missions-for-adeptus.html>Thread question:If you were a demon what would your summoning ritual be?
>>94085044Recite the long lost lore of Fires of Cyraxus and I shall appear
>/40kg/ and /wip/ have been talking about marine juice>it is a wash mix invented by ForgeWorld's painting teamWhat are your thoughts on such a wash mix?According to posts the new mix is dark tone, lahmian medium, and reikland fleshshade dumped into a single bottle and shaken.Did the ForgeWorld painting team when painting the Horus Heresy miniatures come up with other wash mixes?
>>94085139>According to posts the new mix is dark tone, lahmian medium, and reikland fleshshade dumped into a single bottle and shaken.Interesting, has anyone shared their results of using this?
I did Armies on Parade today and my models were recognized as cool.
>>94085170Recognition well earned
>>94085170let me guess, the army with the flashiest paintjob (that wasnt painted very well) won because people see OOH BRIGHT COLOURS and vote for it
>>94085176thank you
>>94085170The impalers are looking good
>>94085139I made a variant of marine juice when I was mass painting my World Eaters. >25% Blue wash>25% Nuln Oil>50% MediumWorked pretty well over white primer to establish shadows and gradients without losing the white completely.
alright back with this idea>ZM>coils of the hydra>take 30 interemptors>interemptors are elites and thus cost 2 RP so 2x3=6, you get 6 RP to deploy units on the board at the start so you can deploy all 30>interemptors get fearless until a unit comes on via coils>when a unit comes on, it gets +1 to hit in both shooting and melee via coils, which pairs well with how you can come on via multiple board edges in ZM and thus quite close to unitsshould I?
>>94085180NMM in a nutshellWhay an ugly-ass style, and yet it wins every competition because muh skill or something
>>94085170does that reaver have a fucking laster blaster as a head?
On a scale of 1 to don't even bother, how hard is it to find some of the OOP Adeptus Titanicus stuff? Especially in regards to some of the terrain.My groups thinking of picking it back up and I'd like to try to chase down some pieces of never gotten. I assume anything like the FW tiles or some of the transfers are going to be impossible or overpriced. Thanks for the help!
>>94085149Did a little bit of skimming /wip/ and found these posts:>>94078164>>94061758>>94062364Seems anon got a bad bottle of dark tone and it makes the wash get a glossy finish. Might be a good thing in the long run as it will mean he can matte down any gloss he spots on the model.
>>94085180Nah that guy came second. His stuff was real good though the blending was hot.
>>94085206inch resting
>one entire loyalist player at the monthly meet up>theme was 2v2show would you guys justify these sort of teams narratively where very traitorous legions need to partner with loyalists?
>>94085196yeah that's laserface.
>>94085220Based
>>94085192I came 3rd in mine because the winner was a 40k thousand sons army that had a rough paintjob (the torsos werent even painted behind the gun), but because it had bright flashy colours with a teal and some red and yellow flowers on the bases, it got all the votes
>>94085188Go for it. I play DA and always run at least 10 interemptors just cause I like them, they also happen to be very good.
>>94085211Happily, Traitors don't really need a reason to kill each other. The loyalists showed up and decided to stomach temporarily allying with a small traitor force in order to take out the greater evil/secure vital resources.
>>94085220I have an extremely acute fear of laserface and I hope to never face him on the field of battle, what a truly terrifying foe
>>94085139I use it. It's a great all-rounder wash, it runs well doesn't streak and fits with basically any color.
>>94085206Has anyone used it on a primed white space marine? My friend is asking me
>>94085232I feel like trust becomes much more tenuous during the heresy, many loyalists would probably walk willingly to their deaths instead of having to put any amount of trust into the ones that have already betrayed them onceoh well, here's our team game today where NLs had to team up with IF against two SoH armies
>>94085065>"For so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned"
>>94085240Please pardon my retardation. How exactly do you apply the wash to your models? I saw a video about it and apparently you are supposed to move the wash in mostly a single direction preferably downwards. Is this correct to minimizing the chances of streaking?>t. getting into the hobby with Horus Heresy.
>>94085351Look at what could have been...
>>94085333Is that 2 spartans and 2 LR? what point level is that?
>>94085374it was 1750 per player so a little more than your average gamethe spartans were filled with tacticals btw
>>94085351
>>94085333I wouldn't say it would be a question of trust - of course no one would trust each other. A loyalist fighting on the same side of a conflict as a traitor in HH may only be doing so for as long as necessary, each party believing that they'll betray or kill their 'ally' as soon as their task is done and they can get the upper hand. Your pic is the perfect example:>Night lords believe they've been slighted/injured in some way by the Warmaster's legion>Decide to take up arms against one of his generals over petty personal problems>Imperial Fists in the same theatre are hunting the Sons of Horus for legitimate reasons>Fists and Night Lords agree not to kill each other temporarily, as they both want to prioritize the Sons of Horus>As soon as the SoH leave the field, Imperial Fists and Night Lords both get to work killing each other (or retreating, depending on the state they're in)
>>94083956 #My specific problem is that the squad gains Outflank, but the vehicle doesn't. Which forbids it from outflanking in it, since "every model in the outflanking force must have Outflank (or be inside w transport that has it)", and the transport doesn't have it.
>>94084100Interceptor dooms any single squad. But multiple still have a chance.I outflanked one Land Raider and two Rhinos once, and the LR fucking ate it in the Intercept (2 Autocannon IF HSS). But the Seekers it carried luckily emerged un-pinned, and 30 guys with special bolters are still useful.I thought the LR dying to Interceptor was strong, but was my opponent's Reaction meant to be fruitless? Ofc no. Anyone would like their dice to carry some consequence
>>94085333>"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"It quite literally is as simple as this. Humanity has hundreds of recorded accounts of circumstances that fit this scenario, of humans temporarily allying themselves due to a momentary common foe despite being at war with one another. Humans are creatures of convenience- astartes, despite their super human nature, are still human, and so it should be that there are many instances where foes who normally would clash blades find themselves back to back to take down those who would end them in the moment since it's simply benifecial and works in the interests of both parties. It doesn't mean they trust the other side neccassarily, but it means that for this moment in time, on this battlefield? They are united, for breaking that bond would lead to the destruction of both. Even going off the caricaturesque personality traits of each legion, you can find reason for most to abide by such decisions momentarily, even if such reasoning comes down to the simple case of>"They aren't shooting at us right now, but THEY are...We'll go for them first since they're actively killing us."
>>94085044TQ:"With anointed blood, with the orphan of the silent god, under the pale blood moon, rise oh shining moonlight, rise and put this world to your sword!!"
>>94085505I guess the issue with the whole allies of convenience thing in this case is that you would have to be an absolute moron to allow the Night Lords of all people close to you.You, as a loyalist, have no idea if they would even appear in that sector at all. Night Lords are equally as paranoid and would not be likely to engage first as a sign of good faith. Actually, I wrote all that but it may work if the NLs have already shown their hand and had failed in actually getting the upper hand against the SoH after they were weakened in an engagement against the Fists and are already in the process of routing alongside them.
>>94085211Depends on the legions involved.Dark Angels would probably be quite willing to force traitors to walk into a minefield at gunpoint.Ultramarines might be willing to offer amnesty or at least a fair hearing if the traitors repent through their actions.Blood Angels maybe might have gone a bit crazy. Whoopsie.White Scars might not give much of a shit at all about this politics bullshit - if someone's willing to fight and die at their side, they're allies.Raven Guard are split between "FUCKING SHOOT THEM BEFORE THEY SHOOT US" and "WAIT NO MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SEE US".Imperial Fists don't see allies or enemies. Only building materials.Iron Hands are too angry to realize that people who aren't shooting at them yet might shoot at them tomorrow.Salamanders are hopeful enough to realize that people who aren't shooting at them yet can be shot tomorrow.Space Wolves are too stupid to know who is on their side.
>>94085741>Imperial Fists allow for a temporary truce with a traitor force because stacking their mkIII corpses for cover would be slightly more efficient than stacking the enemy's mkV corpses for cover
>>94085505>(or retreating, depending on the state they're in)One of said states is "Being a Night Lord"
>>94085819I love my legion
>>94085220Based Laniaskara appreciator.
>dude spider and scorpion necron robots lmaoIs this all we should expect from dark mechanicum in the future? I suppose it’s better than dinobots
>>94086023wtf
>>94086023Kinda looks like a proto-venomcrawler from the 40k chaos side
>>94085170glad you're still around
>>94085517dedicated transports gain outflank
>>94086023>darkmech for ligma first instead of in book 9 Bligh dying doomed the timeline
>>94085382>1750 per player so a little more than your average gameMy play group meanwhile is playing regular 2v2s with 3k per player
>>94086236Legions Imperialis is way better than big Heresy, rules are way more fun, doesn't have that stupid AP system, lascannons aren't the be-all end-all, Auxilia are actually fleshed out...
>>94086398go back to 40gay you 8th refguee
>>94085771>the ally I know will betray me is better than the ally I have to worry about betraying me
>>94086398aren't lascannon literally the best loadout for marine tanks?
>>94085170Spoilers: It's because your models are cool.
>>94086404Nah, I played epic back in the 90's when Armorcast was still a thing. >>94086414Nope, don't listen to everything Goonhammer tries to tell you.
>>94086236>Crucial character has died, revert to last save?
>>94086460wtf is a goonhammer
>>94086460don't care, if you think the gay aids 8th ed armour system is better than AP I think you're cancer, and I think if you're playing ligma instead of NetEA you're turbo cancer
>>94086497They're a website that talks about 40k that suggested that lascannons were the best thing evar at Legions Imperialis's release. >>94086503If Age of Darkness had battle cannons having a 5" blast with AP 3 I'd be with you. As it stands Astartes are just too durable to make any sense. At least in LI they die like flies when caught in the open like they should.
>>94086486
>>94086513>if AoD was the gay pieplate spam tanks only marines are useless meta of last edition id love it
>>94086681Sounds like they should point things better then. Regardless, LI is a fun game and more intriguing than AoD. Then again AoD 3e is coming out next year, hopefully they'll patch a few things.
>>94086692lurk moar
>>94084335>What the fuck is Type D MKVIA - The original RTB01 beakiesB - GW metal/plastic mkVI from 2e to 7thC - FW resin MkVID - HH2 nuBeakies
>>94086023Reminds me of the Tom Cruise War of the World walkers.
>>94086794Tortuga bay sells classic RT heads btw, I'm tempted to buy some.
>>94086497Goonhammer is a trans friendly warhammer community and push for female space marines.
>>94086932They look to me like small Mass Effect's Reapers
I’m not sure about this for Thousand Sons lorewise; but could Achean helmets be compatible with MKVI armor? I like their look but I only have MKVI tactical sprues in my pile of shame.
>>94086990Compatible? yes. But those in your pic are actually more like Mk2/3 helmets. Do yourself a favour and get a sprue of nuMk3 if youalready have them in hand, or get the actual TS Mk6 helmets
>>94086990>but could Achean helmets be compatible with MKVI armorThe general rule is that II/III and IV/V/VI parts are only compatible with each other but helmets are always fair game
>>94085703The other big factor in the heresy is confusion. Although generally speaking entire legions have declared a side, individual chapters are less clear until their actions show their allegiance. Also, I imagine there'd be a kind of delusional hope especially among the loyalists who want to believe that their former brothers haven't turned against everything they used to stand for.
>>94086023I love the eye stalks. I think that touch alone has sold me on these.
>>94086023I think these look exceptionally kino, and I hope they produce some more Dark Mechanicum stuff and/or upgrade sprues to make Castellax 12% more spiky
>>94086972That's an unfair characterization anon! They're also pushing for every game to be "competitive" and to be played with strangers at tournaments. Next to 0 hobby content outside of "how do I speedpaint 2000 points of the latest meta-chasing space marine slop in rainbow pride colours for my tournament next week"
>>94086230Nowhere in the rules does it state that
>>94086023On the subject of Dark Mech, do we have any sort of guide to colour schemes or anything?
>>94087168ah I think you're right, they gain infiltrate if the unit they're transporting has infiltrate, which also confirs outflank
>>94087140>in rainbow pride coloursI so dislike that they claimed the rainbow for themselves. No one can own the rainbow
>>94087176>You have to outflank on footREEEEE
>>94087176Yeah if they have infiltrate or scout you're Gucci, for some reason tho if you only have outflank you're hiking like a bitch
>>94086236Judging by these images, the 28 mm ones are already done as wellMaybe they are releasing them for Ligma first as a desperate attempt to shore up sales?
>>94087197those look like the ligma scale to me
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/pg4mfy13/warhammer-day-preview-more-machines-roll-out-from-the-martian-forges/Article is finally up.
>>94087197Didn't we get SA in LI first too?
>>94087178Yeah it kinda sucks. Things in rainbow colour used to just be cool and rare, but now if I use them I'm aligning to a political agenda
>>94087205The new Warhammer community site looks unfinished compared to the old one. Is this some kind of long-term marketing stunt where GW keeps updating their websites to be progressively worse and worse
>>94087203The main gun and they eye stalk have noticeably finer detail than the previewed models do. As far as I know, all their promotional images in this style feature 28mm models
>>94087222they keep going with the same shit contractor. must be a mate or family or something
>>94087222It doesn't just look like dogshit, it's actual dogshit too. It took them this long to put the article up because yesterday the site was down for hours.
>>94087222It's not even a matter of being finished or not. They stuff they have made is straight up worse to use.>>94087233It's not a contractor, they inhouse this shit for some reason.
>>94087172Dark Mech AKA the New Mechanicum as they called themselves swapped the martian red for black and that's it.The ones in the BL books and the new Martian civil war book always wear black and gold/bronze in comparison to the loyalists keeping their old paint scheme.
>>94087205Oh shidd big. I thought they were dread sized but no lol
>>94087209rainbows have been "political" since the 80s, anon. 40k Rainbow warriors were created as a reference to a Greenpeace ship sunk by french glowies in that era.
>>94087197I wish we got something like chaos androids.
>>94087249A minor scrapcode infection
>>94087266>Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. ... I am beyond your comprehensionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZyPamkEUs
>>94087172Book 6 has Xana and Sarum. I think there are more on others but I just woke up and those are the ones I rememeber.
>>94087172Xana is canonically brown with black trim, otherwise black and bronze
>>94087284Sovereigns casual disinterest was just so much more interesting than Harbingers weird obsession
>>94087276We might, the article implies dark mech will get more things, enough to make it another faction from traditional mech which is completely retarded because for more than a decade they had normal mech things too.
>>94087205I don’t wanna be that guy but can loyalist mechanicum get something to look forward too as well
>>94087276Sorry anon,the best we'll get are tech thralls in baddie colors
>>94087205calling it now, this is the only new modelwhat a joke.
>>94087271Maybe I was just more ignorant before
>>94086023this reminds of me of some mantis like daemon engine that was made either by fans or WD staff to be used by blooded and it even had its rules. too bad I can't find the damn pic anywhere.
>>94087289>>94087287>>94087254I kind of want to do a colour scheme that's just genuinely unpleasant and hard to look at. Like "Childs play area carpet from the 90's" bad.
>>94087266So if we get a whole new dark mech book when these come to 28mm (directly after mars lol), I wonder if there'll be anything in the loyalist list which is off-limits to the traitors. Otherwise the traitors just get the same units plus more
>>94087197>>94087205>>94087266Oh look! Another fuckhuge centrepiece model most people will never ever use while we lack anything smaller than a fucking armiger!
>>94087276With the 1.0 rules you could do something close. >frag grenades and RA for the melee buffs>carapace for carapace>ropt for fearlessThey just need lasguns and the order roll off thing and you reach 1:1 with their old rules.
>>94086023This actually works really well as a dark mirror to the 40k admech, but the 30k mech not so much
>>94087249Not just "for hours" for over SIX hours. A full quarter of a day. The day when they did a big fucking reveal. The download section of the website also broke when they tried to put the new Killteam stuff in there in the week as well. I've seen worse visual """upgrades""" in my time, but in terms of actual functionality, this is impressively worse. Like... normally this is the sort of drop in functionality and basic utility you have to go to the big corporations like Microsoft to go.Normally I'd expect to see this level of fucking poorly coded from a new version of Windows, or a game made by Blizzard.
>>94087333That's something that has been bugging me as well since the reveal. Those things look more like the 40k engines than the FW ones. Maybe it's the spikes.
>>94087314We all were. Sometimes watching old stuff from my childhood surprises me with hidden political jokes
>>94087320That's slaanesh territory, anon. But remember the "never go full retard" speech from Tropic Thunder
>>94087323Loyalists get arcuitors and malagra i guess, better than all these fuckhuge giant models which most people will never see any use for except in gigantic battles.
>>94087347Oh no, there won't be THAT much hot pink.
>>94087335>we hired you to give our users the AAA experience>say no more
do we know what the pict-recorders (or whatever they called them? picters?) that the remembrancers used looked like?I remember them being used but i dont remember any description of them. would it just be like a normal dslr camera or something?
>>94087359So is the triple-A experience "poorly designed and barely works on release.", and does that mean that the qudrupleAAAA experience is "poorly designed and barely works on release and also has virtue signalling character designs everywhere."?
>>94087370No that's also part of the triple-A package.
>>94087379So what is the one where shit is a poorly designed buggy mess but is actually hilariously fun and somehow get's lucky and captures the market zeitgeist because of that? AKA The Helldivers effect?
>>94087335Blackrock and Vanguard needed their ESG and DIE quota met so they hired a bunch of recently boat immigrated illiterate pajeets freshly graduated from couw dung university of technology in Poojabi to work on it.
>>94087294I never understood why the reaper that came first was called sovereign and the leader reaper was called harbinger Surely it should have been the other way around
>>94087385The non-indie "small" studio experience. Like EDF.
>>94087340It's not just the spikes, but you can also see some similarities in the shape of the leg segments and things like that. As another anon said though, it also has some similarities to the brass scorpion.
>>94087349Yeah true, a new basic troop would be more impactful to the feel of the army than these big guys.
>>94087385Nvm, Arrowhead is an indie studio. Forget the non-indie part.
>>94087411They're using cool-sounding words without really considering what they mean
>>94087349I keep looking for opportunities to try and squeeze an Arcuitor into my lists but I can never find a way to include one that doesn’t just lead to him either>standing in a tech priest auxilia squad doing nothing>standing in a tech thrall squad to give leadership 10I am tempted to run malagra with an archimandrite though; take a WS5 archmagos, a tech auxilia squad and arcuitor all armed with data spikes and load them into a macrorid explorator for a shock assault unit.
>>94087340>>94087418>40k enginesDunecrawlers were invented by Arkham Land and should be playable in 30k if it wasn't for the stupid policy of keeping 40k and 30k ranges separate
I want to give the Reaver wardog legs. Should I use the waist of the original kit with the wardog legs or use the waist and legs of the wardog?
>>94087477
>>94087418>brass scorpionI'm looking at the two side by side but I can't find any. Looks closer to a venom crawler.
>>94086978ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
The new melee kit looks way too nice, and it helps that I need another set of despoilers. Considering that there is a lot of different options for arms, I really like it with the different pose ideasMy only issue is not enough chainswords but I suppose I can get some from other sprues, I have the older MK III as well I may be able to kitbash some stuff That being said, do you like to equip your despoilers to the full or are you keeping them on bare minimum? I started with DA now and I like to keep mine maxed out, while the Stormwing tacticals stand behind and offer support
>>94087113Helmets, Shoulders and backpacks are pretty hot-swappable.The rest is iffier.
>>94087203Also those flare shield nubs don't match the LIgma version in detail or quality
>>94087305>Rudimentary accelerator slugs at point blank rangeSo what killed this little tech zombie?
>>94087203>those look like the ligma scale to meNot really - look at the thralls.
>>94087876Kaedes nex
Any predictions for next week? Feels like there's a ton of stuff it could be, but for once, I don't know specifically how GW will shaft us.
>>94087919Plastic decimators and blood slaughterers, for Ligma.
>>94087919More Ligma or another Fist character.
>>94085351They'll bring it back, it won't be as good, but you will have some cool stuff in it
>>94086990Those helmets are suppose to fit all marks.
>>94087957Isn't Imperial Armour's whole thing about adding in more niche stuff from forgeworld? The same sort of stuff they just culled from 40k en mass? I can't see them backtracking this quickly.
>>94086990Helmets are compatible with all armors
>>94087957AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAA HAHAHHAHA AAAHAHHAHAHAH hahahahahahahahaaagood one.nothing is as dead as Fires besides the big Bligh. it was aborted. Well, the BFG:HH reboot is probably equally as dead lol
>>94087477>>94087491It will probably be a lot easier to use the whole assembly from the waist down from the same kit
>>94088037yes, but as your pic shows they were originally made for mk2/3
>>94088128MkIV.
>>94088257it's weird because the faceplate looks like mk2 but the top air intake vent like mk4
>>94088281
>>94088352I take the produc names for those kits as marketing suggestions. Like the late resin heavy weapons with backpacks that were clearly designed for mk3 but marketed with plastic mk4
>>94088352>Sold Out OnlineI’m worried bros. Even if they don’t fuck up nuMKIV, they’ll probably remove most of the resin upgrades we have left. We never even got redone MKIII shoulders, tho that should have been very easy to do with CAD
>>94088440It's retarded that they changed the size and design of mk3 pauldrons after 15 years, making them visually incompatible with all their own upgrades. One of the main problems with numk3
>>94088440Become a print chad today
>>94088086>the BFG:HH reboot is probably equally as dead lolSo it's not all doom and gloom eh?
>>94088440I don't care, I bought 2 extra boxes of manlet mkiv and I will troon the hips. It's a great box.
I hope they don't stop heresy thursdays again after showing all the martian book stuff.Don't do this to me again.
>>94088037ALL marks matter.
>>94087919Very Likely:>Camba Diaz >Kaedes Nex>Aster Crohne>More LIgma Dark Mech>Deredeo with Lascannons/VolkiteSomewhat Likely:>Plastic Krios>Arlatax>Thanatar Calix>Sicaran variantsWhat I want:>Plastic Vultarax>nuMKIII Legion Heads
>>94088400Power packs can be swapped around.
>>94088487Mark I and the fugly Mark VIII don't.
>>94088546?? Mk VIII is just mk VII with a gorget
>>94088594Lol, lmao even
>>94088594No it also as abdomen armor
>>94088546MK1 kicks ass and I want a proper box set of it
>>94088715And so much more... *sparkles*
>>94088720So true>>94088727Lol
>>94088720>Warhammer - The Old Terra'Battles between the Emperor's mighty Thunder Warriors, brutal Warlords and their forces, savage Tribes and Mechanicum raiding parties.'
>>94088440So much is sold out online now, lascannon javelins, all the rapiersThe sky hunters (and mkvi in general)update was pretty good but from the rest of the new stuff I'm not confident
>>94089189Nah. It needs to be called "Warhammer - Old Night" if it's not gonna have the Unification Wars specifically in the title.
>>94089189Unification wars would be cool>Thunder warriors>Pre-primarch legions>Custodes>Tech barbarians
>>94089238I agree, however, thjat'll be ANOTHER specialist game taking away from heresy
>>94089283Also what would they do about the II and XI legions
>>94089355Also true
Bronze
>>94089546Silver
>>94089546I know the Khan mini wasn't that well received, but I like it a lot.
>>94089557Gold
>>94089546Hot
>>94087876Orks, probably.
>>94088546>calling mk8 fugly>Actually liking mk6 over mk8
Iron Hands praetors and leviathan dreads when
>>94089574Honestly silver looks better painted, this looks like it obly got it because WHOA CENTERPIECR MODEL
>>94089718Absolute bottom of the list
>>94088720I'd like an anniversary mini of something like pic related, I feel like that's a semi-realistic hope for a mark 1 kit
>>94089718>94089718Why bother? There are like 7 Iron Hands left by the end of Istvaan V, nearly the literal beginning of the Heresy.
For me? It is Forge World mk8 with a gorget and champion shoulder pads. Absolutely kino look.
>>94089283Same scale though. And it's not like MKI, Terran born Marines (some who may kept or reutilized their former colours), Tech-barbarians or whatever did not exist during the Crusade and the Heresy. Maybe even some Thunder Warriors. Models would be a nice addition to Blackshields and Militia.
>>94089718What? Never, in all likelihood.
>>94088546All power armour marks look good except for Primarshite armour
>>94089780Not HH, fuck offabsolute kino
>>94087411Sovereign called itself Nazara, Sovereign was the name Saren gave it. Additionally, the meaning of the name is "an autonomous state", not "a supreme lord or ruler" ("We are each of us a nation, free of all weakness."). The original Mass Effect is a pretty cool game and the lore was actually best in the first game.
>>94090105the double entendre was pretty peakshame bioware has become a ghost of its former self
>>94090125Yeah, EA really worked their magic on them
>>94086023Why dark mech is using necron titan spiders?>>94090105OG ME was cool, then it got much worse in 2 and 3.
>>94087323Probably some more stuff from the RPGs that Bligh helped write like the dark heresy acuitors which don't really fit 30k that much but were included because reasons.
>>94090125>>94090207Also, I like how the double entendre is delibrate and ties into the plot. Originally Sovereign is framed a ‘Geth dreadnought’ and you take it to mean “Saren believes his boat and/or himself to be the best”. After Virmire you understand that “Saren believes he has found the pinnacle of evolution”. True kino desu
>>94089546>>94089557>>94089574>NMMinto the trash it goes
>>94090248They had unlimited ammo w/cool down and went back to reloading limited heat sinks.What the fuck. Why did they do that?!
>>94090324>Saren believes he has found the pinnacle of evolutionMy EC OC, seeker of perfection, believes the pinnacle of human existence would be Imperium, Mechanicum and Daemon.Human heart, metal flesh, twinned neverborn soul.
>>94090454It was way to make it more like "modern shooter" you know have mags instead of unlimited ammo scifi guns. So they came up with stupid shit to chnge it.My biggest gripe was change to reapers, OG reapers were cosmic horror beyond your understanding superrobot ships that will just kill you and don't want to talk with inferior creatures, then in 2 main reper is shittalking you constantly and it turn out they kidnap people to make new reaper. In 3 they are retarded ai that kill people to save them and die to red beams.
>>94089773>There are like 7 Iron Hands left by the end of Istvaan VThey aren’t the Raven Guard or Salamanders. Only like half of the Xth died there.
>>94090104>no plate covering abdominal cabling>no extended vambraces to cover the wrist joint>M37 backpack and MkVII helmetClose, but no cigar.
>>94090519I hope they cook up a DAoT AI character for Dark Mechanicum. Something like a Brass Scorpion that could be a warlord and go fight a primarch. Would be pretty cool tbqh
>>94089773Anon IH were most numerous dropsite legion, hey managed to organise gurella warfare with Meduson and have Mor drop nukes and mooning everywhere. They got tens of thousands of marines, unlike Salamanders and RG who lost most of their legion in single battle.
>>94090454The in-universe explanation is that manually reloading a gun actually increases firing rate in an engagement because it's quicker than waiting around for the gun to cool down. The more honest meta reason is that the studio wanted ME to play more lika a conventional third-person shooter.
>>94090454>>94090525>>94090675Unironically "we want the Call of Duty audience".
>>94086023It's kind of boring. The "forbidden tech (which is only forbidden because we say so and it's visually just like other mechanicum stuff)" angle of the darkmech is the least interesting part of it to me. Show me daemons and fleshmetal.>>94087317Stalk Tank.
>>94090694I think HH is a bit early for fleshmetal daemonic machines? Or at least before the Siege of Terra.
>>94085362You do it wrong a few times and notice where and why those coffee stain like borders occur.Then you know how to shove the paint around so that those do not occur.Or you skip all that and rinse your brush in mineral solvent. Makes them flow completely different - almost feels like cheating
>>94090707I know. I'm a 40kfag, but GW seems to be signalling that DarkMech is not coming to 40k, especially since they're shoving all of the cool daemon engines into 30k.
>>94090707the mechanicum were probably doing this shit long before the heresy and would finally let them see the light of day after the schism
>>94090694I want to see the bastardized xenos tech and the unsanctioned weaponry and the demon engines and AI, not evil lasers
>>94090454Logically it should've been a mix of 1 and 2/3. You have a heat gauge that climbs as you fire and cools down when you don't. At any point you can eject a clip and replace with a new one.
>>94090690Kind of. That's why the third game introduced a multiplayer mode that players were forced to engage with if they wanted the "best" ending in the single-player story.It was always a bit underreported, but the fact always was, the games were never roaring commercial successes. Not to say they sold poorly by any means. There were a lot of loyal fans and strong, vocal and very visible communities online, but after EA acquired the studio this franchise was one of the poster children for the whole publisher, and it never really had the sales to back that up.
>>94090707>fleshmetal daemonic machinesIf the last book is anything to go by HH is at it's lowest when the stories are about that part of the dark mech. It turns into below 40k tier of writing which says a lot.
>>94090767The multiplayer in 3 was the best part desu
>>94090675>>94090690I reckon reloading stuff is cooler than cooling itself. But the gun not "regenerating" ammo (which is actually Thermal Units) is literally inferior. As in, you could say the gun still cools down on its own; it's just that Thermal Clips are much faster>CoD audienceInfuriatingly enough, some future-themed Black Ops has an attachment that passively recharges a gun's battery clip, not unlike ME1 cooldown.You can still reload it, you just don't need to do it so often
>>94090747This -> >>94090973
>>94089753>>94089773>>94089847Cant have shit in 30k or 40k
>>94090767I heard the original ending was going to be the symbiosis of flesh and machine, and that the asari narrators and even the trees and floating pollen, would all have circuitry-electoos. A galaxy of fleshmetal, but with a soul.Like Necrons is the C'taan hadn't been dicks.
>>94090454The laser weapons in Helldivers 2 are unironically the best of both worlds for this concept.>gun doesn't use ammo, generates heat>as long as the heat sink isn't burnt out, it will eventually cool using the venting ports>burning out the heat sink means you need to reload a new oneSickle = Avenger
Bioware was always shit and always put out shit games quite honestly
>>94091070>symbiosis of flesh and machineJust like what Saren wanted. While TIM wanted to control the Reapers. Meanwhile everyone wanted to destroy them, no matter the cost. Even the Geth were ready to die for that goal.
>>94091070>>94091195Symbiosis is such shitty ending, grean beam go boom and everyone is now cyborg. ME 3 ending was pure shit desu, but symbiosis was most retarded.
>>94087266Of course Daddy-long-legs is huge... I mean, it's called 'Overlord' and in Ligma.>Serperos ‘Overlord’ Heavy StalkerSOHS... S'Over HS... don't now. I think DLL is okay. I mean... his legs are long.
As someone who has some interest in theology and world religion, I would really be interested in reading Keeler's Divinatus if GW ever did publish a copy. Unfortunately knowing BL it would be full of references to later events in 40k (so people could clap at knowing the thing) or bad historical tidbits like "in the Lyvant region of Terra, it is said the people there once called the Emperor by the name of an earlier Catheric holy man, Iesus, while the Romanii worshipped from their stronghold in the Vaticar"
>>94091258>killing the reapers, the main goal from the beginning, is somehow the bad ending
>>94091258It's what you get when you're halfway through a story and suddenly switch writers and change the main plot while ignoring all the threads presented so far.
>>94091659whos this fag supposed to be?
>>94091846John Volkite
>>94091846Horus after winning Heresy and finding cure for baldness deep in Emperor's dungeon.
>>94091846Curze after a shower.
Are basic hand flamers worth anything? I have a few and they look cool but so do the bolt pistols.
>>94087957They won't bring it back. They might have the lore sored somewhere, but they must've forgotten about it like Mechanicum techpriests>>94088042>>94088086Plus it's Firstborn lore. It literally doesn't fit modern 40k
>>94091846John Gaius, the Necrolord prime, the King Undying, the kindly Prince of Death!
>>94087007>those in your pic are actually more like Mk2/3 helmetsYes, but as with all legion-specific helmets, they are of unclear pattern and are not forcibly paired with a specific markThis new beakie-specific helmets are a novelty.Before you had Phoenician-pattern helmets worn by 3rd legion marines in both Crusade and Maximus armor
>>94088512I hate that Camba Diaz is at the top of the list, but it is sadly the most likely model
>>94092009Diaz is new IF character?
>>94092044yes
>>94088512>>nuMKIII Legion HeadsWhat's that? Re-release the old MkIII Legion heads and charge £10 more than before for them? CAN DO!
>>94089557>>94089546>>94089574Man, I hate NMM so much
>>94091986The beakie heads are weird, some like the TS and ECs are obviously MKVI, then you have the DAs and SoHs which look like the could go with most marks
>>94091986A lot of the legion helmets were clearly inspired or based on specific marks, but they (like helmets in general) were not limited to a specific mark. The new MkVI heads are not that different from old legion helmets, which came with, for example, distinct MkIV designs. I'm fine with more toned down, mark specific heads, as it lets you make units that are still a specific mark, but with some decorations. Rather than just slapping clearly MkIII design helmets covered in legion iconography on your MkVIs.
>>94090385>>94092231What's NMM?
>>94092361Non metallic metal. Using different shades of non metallic colors to simulate metal. It requires clean blending so it's seen as an advanced technique.
>>94092379its faggy 'eavy metal slop that looks like cartoon bs
>>94090694>Stalk Tankthat's the one! thanks!
>>94086023It looks like Necron Seraptek Heavy Construct.
>>94092400It can look good.
>>94092452Well a shard of the Void Dragon is buried under Mars after all... Maybe it's just "inspired" by it.
Gib plastic brass scorpion.
>>94092564Already exists. Or did you mean Greater Brass Scorpion?
>>94092593Both
>>94092564Why would they? Entire point of brass scorpion in 40k is having easy dark mechanicum unit with no effort from GW. Scorpion was alongside other FW 40k daemon engines squated in 40k and put into 30k for no reason other than GW being lazy.
>>94089546I went out of my way to avoid looking at the golden daemon minis this year because I find it incredibly sad that the HH category is filled with 40k painters that came here to so they don't have to compete with the rest of the 40k painters. GW could do something different like favouring models painted in the old FW way but instead we get heavy metal(tm) 30k.
>>94085192>he doesn't enjoy carnival ride art on minisngmi
>>94092593Can I have one
>>94092624That's converted defiler daemon engine very old model.
>>94092603Why would daemon engines be limited to post HH?
>>94092618It’s because the ”eavy metal” team consists of narcissist capeshit comic book redditors who think anyone who doesn’t paint in their style is inferior and seethe about the fact that people actually liked the more realistic old FW style.
>>94092603They are referenced in book 6 and 1.
>>94092653>>94092664Brass scorpions? Kytans? Slaughterers?This were 40k engines, but were squated from 40k and put in 30k as low effort way to make dark mech. Somehow lord of skulls isn't in 30k despite it's kytan but with tracks instead of legs. There are also no fiends, defilers, venomcrawlers or heldrakes. FW moels GW no longr ants were put into their sidegame, so the don't need to came with anything new.
>>94092618>but instead we get heavy metal(tm) 30k.That doesn't look remotely like the 'Eavy Metal house style, what the fuck are you on?
>>94092644
>>94092657What really pisses me off is that there were some weathered models...in 40k, titanicus and aereonautica. No hh ones, after all the heresy was known as being characterized by how pristine everything was.>>94092704>Brass scorpions? Kytans? Slaughterers?Yes.
Anyone got the Mega with the audio books?I'd like to listen to scars among other things
>>94092704>40k enginesBecause they FW made models for them in 40k? Brass Scorpions and Blood Slaughterers, among various other daemon engines, date back to RT and plenty of daemon engines are that, daemon in origin, not just daemonically possessed. It's why they can be found in WHFB as well.>lord of skulls isn't in 30k>no fiends, defilers, venomcrawlers or heldrakesNo wolf sled, Custodes Land Raiders, SoS Rhinos, etc. either.
>>94092519no. its faggy comic book shit.
>>94092704>defilers>heldrakesDefilers were commissioned by Abaddon from the Dark Mechanicum (until they managed to put them in events predating the commission, but whatever, lol) and I believe Heldrakes were said to be regular flyers that have been corrupted over time.
>>94092742???? Last year we were laughing at that leviathan dipped in shit
>>94092785>>94092809And Brass scorpions are mentioned as first encountered during later black crusades.It's just GW being cheap since they are liquidiating FW stock.
"Only you can stop the puppy crusher, Vulkan. Only you, with but a single press." Curze crooned.Vulkan craned his neck to gaze at the hound lazing in the chamber next to him, unaware of the spiked ceiling coming down above him, spattered with the gore and guts of its many kin. He made to move before Curze continued."But, brother... if you move your arm, the string attached to it will pull the lever on the kitten exploder. Are you that kind of monster - the same as me?" He questioned, all but whispering into Vulkan's ear."NOOOOOOO" He howled. The scream was like sandpaper in his dry throat. "CURZE, YOU FIEND!" Vulkan wailed."Now brother, all I'm giving you is a choice - all I need is an answer..." Curze cajoled, feigning injury at Vulkan's outburst. He paused, letting the silence hang like the sword of Damocles above Vulkan's head as he watched the ceiling creep closer to the canine. As its wagging tail began to brush against the tips of the spikes, Vulkan winced, and closed his burning eyes. He could almost hear the corners of Curze's smile turn up like rearing snakes. "Not long left now." Curze hissed, his rank breath blowing over the tombstones of his teeth like the winds of a cemetery."Once this is done..." he said, licking his lips like a starving beast that had finally cornered its prey, "... we can move on to the orphan shredder."The light of Vulkan's soul dimmed momentarily at the realization of his fate. "If only..." he strained to think, his mind churning like the volcanic skies of his homeworld, "I can bear it - if only they are Eldar children."He knew they wouldn't be as the ceiling drove home.>>94092763>Anyone got the Mega with the audio books?The one one is kill last I checked. Easier to just snag them off audiobookbay. I can drop a magnet link for the whole series if you want.
>>94092856Maybe there's a sweet spot between no grime and all grime.
>>94092856Looks fine to me.
>this hurts the armour autist
>>94092918ahhh noooo its not edge highlighted and the metallics dont look like some gay capeshit comic book! arrrrgghhhhh
>>94092925not 30k
>>94092925imagine trying to shit stir with badab of all things
>>94092875They're daemon engines of Khorne who gifts them to his followers, not mortal constructs possessed by daemons.
>>94092875According the IA vol. 7, they were confirmed to exist during the later black crusades, but rumors of them existed before then. And Blood Slaughterers did exist during HH, but the information was suppressed.
20 Raven Guard assault chuds
>>94092875It's just Talos Envy, that's what it is.
>>94091163Yeah, Lasers have been great for a while now, even before they could set things on fire. Plasma weapons are in a weird spot though. Still not sure why nobody playtested the Purifier at any point, but maybe they'll actually figure out something to do with that thing.
>>94085044TQ>I am the lonely death>I am the worthless death>when you kill, and don’t think twice about it>when you kill dispassionately>when you kill to get the job done>that twinkle of pride you feel for the sheer professionalism of the murder committed>I am the random death, the incidental, the accidental, the collateral>Cold, empty, death>the eternal pit of nothingness the slain soul peers into as it unseats from the body>The thought of plain laborious work that the artillery loader feels, the naval rating, or even the Astartes dispatching mortals>I am the tragedy if Iphidamas>I am meaningless death>Lord Khorne finds me necessary but distasteful>Lord Tzeench is confounded by me>Lord Slaanesh is bored by me>Lord Nurgle thinks me frustrating>I am the black dragon loitering over everything>I am meaningless death >Great slaughter, not even for its own sake, is what lures me out of the woodwork.
any suggestions for infantry sized conversion beamer bits? I want to make a unit of tech priest auxilia armed with them for my ordo reductor themed force
>>94092330These Word Bearer heads were so lame imho. I much prefer the new beakie ones
>>94093095Birbs of prey
>>94093352I used a spare conversion beamer bit from the Archmagos on Abeyant kit on a GK psilencer. I'm sure the dish piece from the tip of a contemptor's conversion beamer can be fitted onto an infantry weapon. Not that it has to be a little dish, since the Decimator's conversion beamer has a more elongated nozzle, something you might find from Dark Eldar weapons.
>Armistos, cool heavy weapon guy>only taken for his cognis, and most people take techmarines to get it cheaper>never gets to fire his cool weaponI feel bad for the guy, would it be too much to give him some special rule about experimental weapons that let him shoot and still use his cognis when his units shoots at the same target?How would you fix him? Or do you think he doesn't need fixing and I'm missing something?
>>94093683I would just make him act like a Coaxial weapon to his unit: he attacks first, if he gets any hits, any models with the same weapon in the rest of the unit get Twin Linked. Simple and doesn't overlap with cognis signum if you wanted to do all eggs in one basket.
>the extent of the dark mechanicums tech heresy is making robots in the shape of bugs and using daemons instead of computer programsYes this was worth the thirty year wait.
>>94092943>>94092951>IGfag tries to shit up the general again>>94092990>IGtard realizes his samefagging is obvious, so he waits several minutes before posting again
Edge highlights are cringe, but preferrable to NMM
>>94093890You can tell they're evil because they're shaped like a bug!
>>94092593What's with Khorne and brass? Silver and gold are both pure elements, neither of which oxidizes. Brass on the other hand, is an alloy of 66% copper and 34% zinc, and is actually bad for weapons, as it's softer than bronze. It's also very good at NOT creating sparks.Overall it goes against the whole killing, maiming and burning theme of it all.
>>94094205Gunmetal and ammo cases.
Is Horus more interesting than Abaddon?
>>94094283Neither are interesting enough to deserve the adjective.
>>94094283You start in on the first couple of BL books and see a foundation for a complex and interesting character in Horus. The potential is immediately squandered and they never blinked once at trashing his arc
>>94094205Gold is luxury, brass is military.
>>94093683>would it be too much to give him some special rule about experimental weapons that let him shoot and still use his cognis when his units shoots at the same target?Yes, it would, because he is an attempt of combining Masters of Signal and Siege Breakers, and he suffers for it:Back in the day, one of the only sources of Cognis-Signums were MoSs, and they pay a price for it: very limited loadout. Now that Cognis are also found on Techmarine signals officers, there's little need to dilute what makes MoS special by giving their Cognis to someone who has even more weapons options.Armistoses also trample on the Siege Breakers' territory, as SB are the only ones who can authorize the use of phosphex...yet Armistoses are the actual Lords of the Arsenal. Siege Breakers are to buff heavy weapons and poke holes for the army to exploit...but they themselves have no Heavy Gun of their own. Which the Armistos has...and chooses not to use over the Cognis.Solution? You won't like it: improve the Siege Breaker by absorbing the Armistos. Let Siege Breakers gain Heavy type (they disrupt HSS because they need a Boarding Shield to get Heavy), and give them the OPTION to buy an MC'd Heavy Gun.Also make them 30 pts cheaper, remove their mandatory Phosphex Bombs, and give them the option of buying them back at 10 pts a piece. That way the overall price is the same but you aren't forced to buy 6" bombs for the guy who may be at the back lines near the artillery and HSS.>But what about my Armistos? I already built him!He's a Siege Breaker now. Congrats, he can now shoot his gun at the same time he buffs his squad with Sunder.
>>94094239>>94094324>Originally used chiefly for making guns, it has largely been replaced by steel for that purposeRip
>>94094351So was bronze. Steel have benefit of being cheap and easy to work with. Still brass is military metal. Even today high command is called top brass
>>94093683People who take him for that are unimaginative, especially since the techmarine is cheaper, as you say. Stick an Armistos into a forward operating squad where their gun does some work but the melee weapon they're still entitled too also does some damage. The cognis is just there in case the rest of the dudes' guns are move valuable than his for a turn.
>>94094328>yet Armistoses are the actual Lords of the ArsenalThey're not. >The skills required of an Armistos are much sought after by the Legion’s Master of Arsenal, particularly in those Legionaries of level temperament who are not apt to charge into the fray but are capable of supporting and supplying their battle brothers without desire for aggrandisement.>The skills required of an Armistos are much sought after by the Legion’s Master of Arsenal
Nice to see some Titanicussy getting attention.The reaver titans seem made for lavish freehand.
>>94094510LIgma is great for dioramas.
Any tips on mitigating hobby burnout? I'm tired of being the driving force for heresy in my group, who all can't stay focused on a single game system for longer than 5 minutes anyway
>>94094540>Any tips on mitigating hobby burnout?Material possession.
>>94094457Anon, it says right there that the Armistos work with the Master of the Arsenal. Maybe they aren't THE master...but they work there in the Arsenal, as they "support and SUPPLY" the battle brothers.You know who doesn't work in the Arsenal? The Siege Breaker.Why do they alone have the keys to the Phosphex? Nobody knows.Siege Breakers prefer to break sieges from the front line. So why do they interface mostly with Artillery and HSS, who are in the backline? Because reasons.Or maybe, it's all schizo. Hey, according to your description, maybe it should be Armistos working for the Master of the Arsenal what allows the use of phosphex huh? Says so right there in the fluff. As if we need even less reasons to bring Siege Breakers (with no big gunz)
SA Cohorts feel too limiting. I love army wide lv 10 stubborn riflemen but I want Vanquishers AND plasma cannon tanks
>>94094569Sounds like a personal problem.
>>94094531Yes.
>>94094556They work with the MoA as in they get the heavy guns from him because of their disposition. >Maybe they aren't THE masterThat's just goal post moving for no reason, even if he didn't mean it he just literally said "yet Armistoses are the actual Lords of the Arsenal", I'm just correcting him and I don't see the point in arguing about this further so I won't.
>>94085239
>>94094549As in "acquire more material possession" or "material possession and by extension hobby should not dictate mood?"
>>94094610The former. The latter is merely a pedestrian philosophy that inappropriately disavows the positive psychological effect a consistent and comforting escape has for someone.
>Chinese recast order of tech auxilia came in today>Expecting very little since Ukrainian recaster I bought from last time was garbage>Open package>Its better quality than any of the forge world stuff I’ve bought>Not a single mould slip or snapped piece>Faster delivery time than forge world tooI feel like I’ve just stepped into a whole new world. Words can’t express the nirvana I feel
>>94094569I mean, as a Heresy newfag I'm finding a lot of SM RoWs being quite restrictive while trying to figure out a list.
>>94094668It will not last
>>94094642Fair enough. Time to buy
>>94094569>>94094669They should be restricting. The point is that you don't *have* to take a RoW, and you shouldn't if you aren't trying to do the specific kind of skew the RoW encourages because the benefits will outweigh the downsides.
>>94094748That's the spirit!
Taking a RoW requires a Praetor or a Delegatus, right? I keep flipping through army lists online and tell me I'm not crazy for thinking one of those is required.
>>94094776Did you read the rules for Rites of WarSomething tells me you didn;t
>>94094746Then I shall enjoy this feeling of awe whilst I can, and at the same schedule another order>>94094776It's quite literally one of the first things mentioned as a requirement for a RoW in the rules section regarding it, that being that you need a model with the master of the legion rule, so a praetor or a centurion with the delegatus consul upgrade. I would highly advise looking at the bare minimum rules for list building before you start looking at what lists people are using
>>94094785I have, my question is if everyone else has. Three dozen people yelling the wrong answer very loudly tends to lead to confusion.
>>94094807Yeah? And who are these people? If you at least pretended better to read the rules you wouldn't be asking this. I'm not saying this to be mean, this should be considered an intervention. Read the rules
>>94094776Praetor, Delegatus or PrimarchIf you take a primarch though you still need some kind of HQ unit to fill the compulsory slot
>>94094540Try to get them more involved. Narrative campaigns etc
>>94094762Oh I'm aware, and would rather not have shit dumbed-down. Just a bit hard to get all the bases sorted without enough on-hand game knowledge. But in some cases it does seem like a few of them do outweigh the penalties, like Hammer of Olympia.>>94094776Master of the Legion rule. That's what make Armoured Spearhead and Fury of the Ancients exist at all.
Now that we have a model for the arlatax, are we expecting a second wave of mechanicum within the next two years? I got some cool lists brewing up and am excited for the deepstriking claw robot boys
>>94094845Probably. Plastic thantar-laser beam is guaranteed, ursarax, and vorax seem probable. If they do arlatax I hope it's not in such a retarded jumping pose.
>>94092879kek, WTF I love Night Lords now???
>>94094882Zased
>>94094845A kit or two is probable; I could see the calix thanatar getting a release as well as the Karacnos since it just requres swapping out one or two sprues for each kit. The Krios' have been sold out for literal months as of now and they got a profile update in the new Mar's book so we're likely due for a kit of those too.
>>94093095One Gal Vorbak will BODY these raven cucks
>>94093002I like to think that over the course of the great game, the four major powers have made pacts with and enthralled many lesser powers with more niche domains. It explains why chaos is so much more clearly defined by 40k, since by then they've taken control of and divided up pretty much everything. It also explains things like Khorne having so much to do with industry and machinery, and also the more recent Nurgle models having plenty of tentacles, mouths, and antlers. Somewhere out there is a warp entity of excessive horns who made a bad pact and is now enslaved to Nurgle
For y'all with terminator chaplains, mind posting them? Making a cata Chaplain out of a spare body and parts from the bits box and looking for inspiration on how to take it further.
Speaking of Arlatax, it doesn’t mention in their rules but because of the jump booster they have bulky 2 correct?
>>94095081The rules don't mention anything about giving the model bulky...So Arlatax just count as 1 model for the sake of model count since they don't have bulky either? There's nothing in the FAQ that's corrected anything related to the Arlatax either so guess that's the intention?Weird thing to catch honestly
>>94095131All of the Automata count as 1 dude, they're weird as fuck. I think even for nght lords they only count as 1 because GW is very competent at rules writing.
>>94095131I thought I was retarded for asking. What’s stranger is thallax are bulky with their jet pack….but they aren’t bigger than an arlatax model and wounds wise. How would you play this out if the arlatax had an arc scourge?
>>94095196>I think even for nght lords they only count as 1 because GW is very competent at rules writing.You're correct, same with dreadnoughts and bikes
>>94095042NL mkIV skull heads are good.What legion?
>>94093095it would be a shame if someone clipped the wings off your little ravens
>>94095204Well it counts as 1 model, and rampage kicks in when outnumbered, so in other words, when facing a unit with more than 2 models, one model with bulky (2) or versing a vehicle at least. In other words, 90% of the time your Aralatx is outnumbered and gains 2d3 attacks. Shoutout to Paragon of Metal that can give an Arlatax rampage (2) by default for a potential 13 WS5 attacks on the charge with precision strikes on a 4+
>>94091258Mass Effect stopped being good after the first one. Yeah yeah everyone thinks 2 is great, but really it's the start of the rot, replacing the quest for knowledge plot set up by the first game with shitty Oim Puttin' Toogeva A Team character-first action shlock. ME3 was just the chickens coming home to roost.
>>94095408special rules do not stack and your opponent can just Hold the Line to shut off Rampagenot like you'll have multiple melee units in a mech army anyway
>>94095449Eh, I wouldn't call 2 that bad, but it did feel much smaller, despite its attempts to build big stakes. Didn't care for most of the new characters though. 3 started fine and had good character moments but the ending of course was so famously bad.I mean, yeah, 1 was the best, but FUCK its inventory micromanagement though.
>>94095490I'm pretty sure Rampage is the exception because of the highlighted text in pic related>roll once for each such variant>present in the unitThat implies that if there are several instances of the rampage rule, you are to roll for each one, doesn't it? What other reason would you roll for each variant of the rampage rule if you can only benefit from it once?
>>94095543because Rampage is on a model by model basisyou don't roll d3 once for the entire unit, you roll d3 for each model and apply the extra attacks individually
>>940954492's gameplay was good, but the story was trash, agreed.
>>94095550Fair enough, and re-reading the rule back it basically spells it out right from the get go>"At the start of ant Fight sub-phase, models with THE Rampage special rule-"If it could be used multiple times it'd probably be worded differently. Thanks for the correction anon
>>94093890What did you think was coming? Dumbass.
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>>94095543>>94095550Is that how it plays? I read it that you make one roll for all Rampage (D3) models, and then a separate roll for any Rampage (D6) or whatever
>>94095714That's how the highlighted text reads to me.
>>94095543>>94095550>applying the result to all models with that variant for the current phaseIt's pretty explicitly not model by model
>>94093683Everyone is missing it. His gun needs to be a longer range than those of the unit you put him in. Mine has a lascannon and sits in a squad of 15 volkite breachers that walk up the board
>>94093890No matter what anyone releases, nomodels fencesitters will never be pleased. Instead you just shitpost about a game you don’t even play.
>>94094668>china is le based, ukraine is so cringe tho :/Noted.
>>94095490>special rules do not stackthis is correct but only because Paragon of Metal separately confers Rampage (2) onto the Paragon model, it is not true across eg Violence Incarnate+Rampage>>94095131>>94095081Arlatax are Automata, so they can't normally use transports (regardless of the Utan jump booster not itself specifically forbidding this - it is more often used by Infantry models) and for most purposes it's immaterial what their Bulky would be; they can use Ordinatus Transport Bays, but their transport capacity is separately described there as 8 (double their starting Wounds); nothing in the Utan jump booster rules suggests it overrules the Automata unit typeif you want a reason why this doesn't apply for rules like A Talent for Murder, then NL aren't intimidated by Automata
>>94096319>if you want a reason why this doesn't apply for rules like A Talent for Murder, then NL aren't intimidated by AutomataThe reason it doesn't work for A Talent for Murder, is that it's a rule that isn't very thought out and not playtested at all. They should either each model with a Bulky value, regardless of access to transports or actually write a mechanic for outnumbering (which could also impact combat resolution!). The current implementation is a mess where a single terminator outnumbers a dreadnought and a sabre outnumbers 9 marines.
>>94092879Please I’d appreciate that!
>Guys, how do we stop our legionaries from craving human blood?
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>>94094510I give him credit for doing his best to make the thing look non-awkward, that kit has a lot of "babies first steps" energy whenever you try to put it in any pose other than just standing, unless you really know what you're doing.
