"A Sign" EditionArchives & Other Resources: https://pastebin.com/wETipqYwAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous Thread: >>94125088>Thread Question: Do you believe humanity will survive?
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Does Project Aegis cuck your own reality warping and magic?
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>>94128708No, you can turn it off and on at will.
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>>94128727>>94128725I guess I won't be taking it then.
>>94128737What? You want it to cuck your own powers?
>>94128727>>94128725>>94128740Nonono, I'm taking it.>>94128737Fuck. Forgot picrel and I misunderstood.
>>94128748Focus on posting the cyoa. Focus. Conversation can happen after.
Is Sex Magic REALLY worth 2 points? I don't think it is but the author's own test build took it, so I don't know what to think.
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>>94128772Italics...
I've been clicking through the homestuck story for 40 pages and I understand nothing. Did I get trolled for 40 pages straight or is this really homestuck?
>>94128832Act 1 is very slow and boring, but sets up the main four characters. Once you hit the end of Act 1 things ramp up quickly.
>>94128838How many pages left? I can't take much more of this.
>>94128844*Pages left in act 1.
>>94128832What the fuck is this, lmao
>>94128844Act 1: The Note Desolation Plays is approx 247 pages. You can skim through it until you reach the Meteors.
>>94128869>247 pagesAHHHHHHHHH>You can skim through it until you reach the Meteors.Good.
>>94128883Yeah, most of the pages up until them are just building the characters, them dicking around, and explaining the mechanics of the game and setting, like how their inventories work.
>>94128899Does it actually get good?
>>94128902It gets really fucking good, sadly it is a little dated, as many of the animations previously used flash which is no longer available, so you don't get the full experience and instead get youtube videos lmao, unless you use the homestuck collection here https://homestuck.giovanh.com/unofficial-homestuck-collection/.But yeah, it has some great animations and music throughout the story, even a few flash games.
>>94128759Depends wholly on you, it's a taste thing. It's there for all coomers to enjoy with their gifts. Offering means to experiment as well, feels like it hits home with fleshcrafting as well.As you can see to me it's expensive, but i couldn't live without it. To you, skipping it might be for the best.
Vampire cyoas?
Posted in the last threadThe reason mindthread are so good is because they are some of the only echoes that boost non-magical traits that aren't just strength or minor personal fleshwarping. Intelligence and the ability to store blueprints has no bearing on your actual ability, and technology acts a crutch since you can make handheld gigasuperlasers or bioandroid super soldiers, and even magitech is fully within your grasp to emulate, as an example I keep seeing, you could absolutely make a unflinchingly loyal bioandroid like android 21 who eats magic and absorbs abilities to grow permanently in power or some shit to fight your battles for you. Other echoes like feather, shroud, horn, ash and stuff that grant magical abilities have a cap on what they can feasibly do and do not grant the same kind of utility or potential wide range of abilities. This makes hyper-specific abilities like heart and scale completely worthless, since they don't even have the magic part and only affect you physically in a cyoa where physical traits and even the magical abilities are only slightly above average at best, and far below at worst.
>>94127806It's a common atheist cope. Supposedly you'd run out of steps on the hedonic treadmill if you lived forever and you'd grow completely bored with life and want to end it all, and that's why an afterlife would be a bad deal. It falls apart because most people in any era have been okay with making a routine to fall into, especially the people who say this idea. If I can be okay with living in one way for ten years, then I can be okay with living in it for a hundred, or how many other zeros you add to it.
>>94129034That sounds retarded, why would magic be imited, but not science?
>>94129089Anon needs to sleep.>>94129034Go sleep.
>>94129089Magic relies on your own magical sources and your own power, not using intelligence to make something that relies on external power. How do you get the ability to kill more people at once with shroud? You don't, whereas this question is answered on mind by simply making a better weapon.
>>94129089In a cyoa where you yourself are weak and moat of the powers rely on you for potency, the strongest powers are the ones that allow you to overcome your shortcomings.
>>94128925Homestuck CYOA when? I miss it
>>94129210The only ones that fit are Ultimate God by Aromage and The Game by Highlander.
>>94128514>Thread Question: Do you believe humanity will survive?Yes.All the woke shit that exists in the media is subconsciously steering humanity in the opposite direction.Soon the arc of a just militaristic humanity that slowly takes over stewardship of the galaxy will begin. It has been written. Everything is proceeding as I foreseen.
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>>94129140>>94129151So there are no means to use external powers to boost your spells? And i keep seeing so many stargazers too, shit is boring. Should be more than one way to get good, maybe go all in charisma? Get people to do all that science for you? Multiversal peace? Easy. Get in Ivory's pants? Easy.Have yet to finish the cyoa
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>>94129222Perpetuity, Intelligence, endurance(REDACTED)I love my submissive goth gem wife.
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>>94129222>a bunch of extremely annoying 'dom' womenor>a bunch of doormats you need to write a dissertation for before they're willing to consider sex without getting PTSDGrim selection.
>>94129322>>94129249Duality of man
>>94129322You make the dom women be submissive to you, simple as.
>>94129383This doesnt work for most of them.
>>94129390That's quitter talk. Human male willpower is the strongest force in existence, it is known.
>>94129403If i swapped yo a dominant one, it would be emi, same traits. But I don't think that I can fix her that way.
>>94129229No matter what build you pick you can theoretically finish the cyoa since you'll be carried by your allies, but there's a big difference in a stargazer mindthreadchad building megastructures and modifying species to submit to them or making new robots, vs some fucking divine-scale dragon whose going to die to the mindthread dudes cosmic railgun if it gets uppity. Even if both builds can techincally 'win' there's a big difference in both how and how much they win.
>>94129222Perception, Intelligence, PerpetuityAsterHell yea I want to wed a deity and travel the cosmos. And I'm certain that she can get someone or something to augment me further.
>>94129514My wife Mati whose 15x stronger because of break of mortality and strength of bonds solos ivory no diff, not accounting for my other wives or my gigatech. Sorry ivory, but in the end the power of love (and gigatech) prevails against femcels.
>>94129627>>94129545I quoted the wrong post fuck. I'm not fixing it.
>>94129223Nta, but here.
>>94125402why does Earth Technique, Earth Companion, and Balanced Bloodline all feel like they're better than their Heaven counterparts?Balanced Companion also sounds more useful than Heaven Companion
I'd trade an active Italics for an active New Observer or Imaginos
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>>94129750I wouldn't.
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>>94129746You're insane.>Earth TechniqueMerely flashes of insight vs grandpa in a ring, the cheat of many many MCs.>Earth CompanionAppearance. Lol, lmao even. Cultivators get naturally more beautiful, not to mention the myriad face changing techniques. Literally the difference between Heaven and Earth compared to the support of someone who can dominate your current world.>Balanced Bloodline"stronger and more durable" vs "powerful body, unique mystical abilities, and can transform into a true monster". The latter literally includes the former and has additional powerful abilities.
>>94129807>Merely flashes of insight vs grandpa in a ring, the cheat of many many MCs.actual insight and dao comprehension vs discount yao chen chatgpt>Literally the difference between Heaven and Earth compared to the support of someone who can dominate your current world.>"subtly aid"literally fucking nothing compared to someone with your exact talent who can cultivate with you from the start when you need ityou're better off with a magnet stuck to your face instead of the voyeur stalker>stronger and more durable" vs "powerful body, unique mystical abilities, and can transform into a true monster". The latter literally includes the former and has additional powerful abilities.unironically just build-a-jobber simulatoryou're actively nerfing yourself into glorified weekly fodder by turning yourself into a spiritual material farm monster like that
Quick reminder that despite what shitposters say Tok is one of the most likeable authors around. Look at EA as an example of a dislikeable author this is an incomplete list of authors who hate him:>Tok>Aromage>Cyrus>Italics>Thief>Gil>Husanon>Hyenanon And many many more. Tok looks like a saint in comparison and he's not as hated as people think just that there are a handful of shitposters jealous of him. He's not as hated as someone like Italics much less EA. Also koreans like Tok a lot and even reddit still looks for him despite their past. This is a sign of likeability and influence.
>>94128772I reject your false dichotomy. I choose POWER SEX.
>>94129010>Vampire cyoas?Any particular spin on 'em?
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>>94129942>>GilWas Gil even around when Entropist came out? I remember him disappearing on us before then.
>>94130046>(small)What's the big version?
>>94130071About 300 pixels too long for 4chan, but otherwise identical. I originally found So You Want to be a Vampire on Imgur (but no longer have the link).You're the first person to ever notice (and comment) on that, by the way.
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>>94130091There's no higher res version? How disappointing. My eyes hurt from looking at it, so I guess I'm never playing it.>You're the first person to ever notice (and comment) on that, by the way.Probably because I'm the only one to obsessively try to get the highest res version of any cyoa that peaks my interest.
>>94130112>My eyes hurt from looking at it, so I guess I'm never playing it.Try converting it to black and white. I suspect the issue is the dark red lettering on the grey background, rather than the actual resolution.
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>>94129942New frens won't even have heard of Tok by the time he finally releases a cyoa that gains some traction.That humaltion ritual cyoa he's working on won't be doing him any favors in the popularity department, that's for sure.
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>>94129942I have literally never even mentioned EA
>>94130440Why are you responding to toks baitpost
>>94128759If the author took it then it's op.
>>94129229>Get in Ivory's pants?Does Ivory really deserve you?
>>94130586Aww gee anon, thanks for your concern. Well there is the caveat of her putting earth back in it's orbit first.But yeah, just something about powerful, crazy women chasing you halfway across reality.
>>94128759I took it so I could fuck Ais.
>>94128759Sex Magic only does one thing. It's up to you to decide how important that one thing is to you.
>>94128759If you took Succubus and Matrons then its free ( i did it. Not only matrons are fairly strong, versatile and useful outside of combat but also have advantage against True AIs)If you didn't its a pleasure option, the worth is decided by you. If you go 100% for power, its not worth it without the matrons. If you want to live happier, then its worth
>>94130440He mentioned Thief, who did a fan cyoa in his honor as an author that hate him. Thats how bad of a bait it is.Between them, the only ones that hate him are Tok and maybe Aromage because people keep talking about it but i didnt see her seething to him. Tok is hated by everyone but Tok and thats because the League of Tok is not real otherwise he would be included
>>94131375the only author that aro seethes about is sand because hes a huge asshole
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>>94131399jobber
>>94130887AM deserves happiness. He was also a victim.
>>94131385She consciously/openly seethes about SandShe subconsciously/secretly seethes about Gil, but also SDA
>>94131612I consciously and openly seethe about gil
>>94131627we know, anon.
>>94131627mental illness
>>94129942Tok...
Can somebody who is less of a brainlet than me explain what Aether actually does in Power Creator Xenon? Been rereading it for thirty minutes and I still don’t understand it.
Hey Tok, if you're around, I have a question for you, actually. Revisiting Dragonfall right now.The Pocket Dimension Tier 1 spell allows you to create one portal to your pocket dimension, and creating another one collapses the first. But can you also close the portal early, and thus have no active portal to your pocket dimension? I'd like to make sure that it can't get invaded while I'm away from the portal and/or that I can use it as a completely safe and unassailable place to recover if something goes wrong.
>>94131985Tok...
>>94131999Shut the fuck up retard, not everyone who plays Tok's CYOAs is Tok and I would actually like an answer to my question.
>>94132003Tok...
>>94131985It would make sense for it to work like that. Just consider it your own headcanon, Tok is such a profound retard that he'd tell you otherwise for no reason just to be annoying.
>>94129545I agree that it’s most clear on how that combo can grow, but I don’t know if I would really say it’s the only winning combo. If you take enough techie allies, I think your individual contribution doesn’t matter quite as much. The stargazer heritage minions seem like they’d do a good job. And presumably, each heritage had some means of improving over time outside of just recruiting more strong people, though it’s not as clear what that would be. Pathfinders I guess make increasingly more fucked up deals?
>>94131985Tok revealed the answer to me in a dream. He said: Simón.Whatever that means
>>94129034>i can really make this Magic eating DBZ character Nah lol
>>94132096does he ever say anything other than RAW?
>>94132120they really treat technology like magic.>I have good iq so i can make tech>that must mean I can make anything with tech, ignoring time, logistics, that i am 1 person, how the fuck do i discover things how to make a bio android loyal decently powerful and capable of eating magicYeah, they are in for a surprise
>>94132135Simón and RAW. I think he uses Simón as a yes and RAW as a no. I have to confirm it
>>94129034bro thinks he's doctor gero, ignoring the part where gero got killed by his stronger androids
>>94132140He's got that rick and morty brainrot
>>94132120If it's a magic system, and you can experiment with it like any science, it's not too improbable to use it as fuel.If it's the kind of whimsical fey magic you can't understand, I don't think you can sci-fi your way through it. In both cases you have to think of the things >>94132140 quoted, find a way to miniaturize your discoveries enough to implement them in the biodroid (which is another project entirely), make sure the manaeater module is correctly working, doesn't overheat and explode, don't bother the rest of the biodroid. All that while you're being pursued. Science is fun, but sometimes magic is better.
Is Gateway actually bad?
>>94132179Did you like it? I've tried to read it, but couldn't get a grasp on its identity compared to Ultimate God and Children of Ski. They look and play too similar for me.
>>94132140That and it's a no-limits fallacy where anything he can imagine is a garuntt3d success
>>94132188Beyond retarded. This is nothing like ultimate god. You must be brain damaged to think so. The better thing to say is that it is just nexus all over again.
>>94132140>>94132178>ignoring time, logistics, that i am 1 person, how the fuck do i discover things how to make a bio android loyal decently powerful and capable of eating magicWhy are we acting like the rest of the cyoa doesn't exist? Time/being pursued are the only valid limits here.
>>94132206It's an impression made from cursory glances, anon.
>>94132210I still think the android 21fag will fail tho, not because what he wants is impossible but because he'll probably try to do it too early or get the Dr. Gero treatment like this guy said >>94132155
>>94132179It's alright. I like it better than most of her other cyoas
>>94132140That's actually how perfect mind idea supposed to be limited in luminary.Something that I'm explaining with more detail with Earth's companion that's a cyborg.She is a prototype supersoldier created by Kleidi with the idea of creating an army of them.But she saw that the cost benefit was too low.It took al ot of time and resources just to build one.So she eventually opted to try to find a Luminary to use the artifacts for her.You also have to take into account that most people in earth are not nearly as intelligent as you so even giving maintenance to your creations might be too much for them let alone repair them.There are many things to consider with technology.
>>94132258>Not letting me ignore the logistics of uplifting earthwhy do you hate techGODS like this?
>>94132178>>94132140>everything anon quoted is on the lower end of tech in the setting and has already been done beforeErm its not possible even though you have quantum intelligenceSorry jobber, you lost to mindthread.
>>94132285I don't I just want to have a semblance of balance in the CYOA.besides many of the drawbacks can be solved with other artifacts.Like Chu to for example build a giant factory and then create a terrestrial god to inhabit it.boom you have a fully automated factory that needs no maintenance or repairs and the god can easily reshape it to be easily updated by you in the future.He would only need some worshipers similar to 40k tech-priests.
>>94132327You're forgetting that the player is narratively meant to be a jobber, everyone can make that stuff except you because you're still not smart enough
>>94132258Or just. You know. Have simple robots give maintenance to themselves and the infrastructure too? Humans are not needed anywhere in this equation. As much as people try to cope against technology, that is all it will ever be. Cope.
>>94132258>people aren't as smart you>so you can't teach people, or god forbid, you leave instructions and a detailed blueprint on how it works and how to fix it>you also can't make maintanence drones which are easier to maintain themselves while everyone else catches up worst case>all of this is assuming your android is somehow so indecipherable that even with bith of these the hyperautists cant understand them stillTechchads only lose if you have no creativity.
>>94129942>hate himI don't hate Tok. I just don't care for him, I wouldn't wish him harm or anything since that would be wrong since he never harmed me. But I just don't care about him or what he does.
>>94132384This is even forgetting that we already, in real life, can automate so much stuff. In reality, all you need is a better AI and then you can automate everything.
>>94132380As far as the cyoa goes we're only behind the actual peak sophons and egregores in raw intelligence. Anons like them haven't read the cyoa nor the other two and so don't realize shit like continent superweapons and space habitats are low tech. Or that exactly what i've said about the bioandroid has been done already. Mindthread ia indisputably the ruler of the cyoa, nothing else comes close.
>>94132384>so you can't teach peopleWell it is a bit of a spoiler but there is a way for you to teach others how to use powers you have mastered.As I said there are ways to deal with the logistics.But you are still ignoring the material limitations.That's a huge deal.
>>94132409I know bro, I'm just joking around >>94132416>there is a way for you to teach others how to use powers you have masteredtech route just got so much better
But why do you need this super robot solider that is not cost efficient to make? Is this robot blowing up a city with a single punch or something? else, it does not matter. This is like in ww1 and ww2, retards bringing up old tactics thinking times have not changed. Similar to the war nowadays with expensive tanks being 1 shoted by the 35 dollar walmart drone from a civvie that just learned to fly it 5 minutes ago.
>>94132381>Or just. You know. Have simple robots give maintenance to themselves and the infrastructure too? those "simple" robots are already more complex than any technology we have nowadays. And you are ignoring, again, the time to make them, resources, trial and error, discovering things. We don't cope against technology, but some retards think technology advance is like fucking Doraemon thinking in this century we would have time machines, flying carpets etc... Technology advances by baby steps the great majority of time. Also, if Husanon says an android supersoldier is already not worth in the setting, you thinking "then do simple (thta are already very complex) machines" fails to see the point
>>94132430It's 40k and really most every Ci-fi setting logic my friend.
>>94132434So what, retard? There is already space civilizations and you are telling me the setting does not have this technology? are you stupid?
>>94132434>an android supersoldier is already not worth in the settingmaking an army of them isn't worth it
>>94132447See >>94132258>>94132449>But she saw that the cost benefit was too low.It took al ot of time and resources just to build one.
>>94132430>But why do you need this super robot solider that is not cost efficient to make?because it's coolmost anons will come up with a thousand cope reasons for it but most anons go by rule of cool instead of logic
In luminary it may not be feasible to actually be doing supertech right away, because even though you're really smart, that's it, you're just really smart and you're one person. In gateway you literally have a super-boosted supercomputer that can do quantum calculations millions of times at once and can store blueprints of objects just by touching them and shit while having nanites that can create them from nothing if you have white-gold heart. There's a wide margin between the two.
>>94132459The fact that an android super solider is something that can exist already tells you how advanced AI is in the setting. You do not need to put the AI on a stupid android body. Just have that AI control drones which are cheap to make. We already do this in real life.
>>94132472>Cyborg meaning a human enhanced with tech.
>>94132467The rest of the cyoa also has you get started on empire-building to make up for being a weak bitch so you're not just one person anymore.
>>94132258>It took al ot of time and resources just to build one.How much time are we talking here? A year? Ten? The average smartphone takes about 9-12 months to make. Damn near anything can become time efficient and worth it if you just apply it in economies of scale.And what resources are you talking about? Even now in the modern era our latest technology still doesn't take anything absurd like unobtainium nanocrystals to make. NVIDIA's latest AI chips are still made out of roughly the same shit their 2010 chips were made out of, the motors of today that are far smaller, more efficient, and more powerful than the motors of 1920 don't use exotic helium-3 to accomplish that, etc.Always felt that "resources" was a nonsensical cope when it came to technology.
Is Italics really hated here?
>>94132498depends on the month
>>94132498Shut up. Right now we are hating on a different author. Either join or fuck off
>>94132498No.
>>94132485>Always felt that "resources" was a nonsensical cope when it came to technology.just means fantasy sci-fi tech needs fantasy sci-fi material to do its fantasy sci-fi shit, common way to balance tech in settings. you dont want gravitational beam emitters to be common or everything goes to shit
>>94132501>SHITALICS-SAMA DON'T DELAY LUMIN-ACK!
>>94132472>You do not need to put the AI on a stupid android body. Just have that AI control drones which are cheap to makeCheaper to make, how much cheaper? it could still be not worth it. And aesthetics is probably the thing that cost less in the whole android, you could barely make it cheaper making it still not worth it.like>Making titanium bottles to store water is too costly!>Just don't make bottle caps and its cheaper lol>Great! now instead of 100000000000000000, it now cost only 99999999999999900!> already tells you how advanced AI is in the settinghow advanced can it be, the cost and time of creating one didnt cross your mind?
>>94132500We aren't even hating on anyone though?
>>94132499If OC released by Italics: GOLDEN AGE will return again.If Italics just WIP Posting: Italics, babe, PLEASE just release X (Echoes, etc). Italics: NO.
>>94132521He thinks any kind of discussion is hate.
>>94132527I literally could not care less about his cyoas that aren't star runners and magi case and apparently they're all last.
>>94128514>Do you believe humanity will surviveIt's possible. but not at the rate its going. Only if we make a concerted effort to unite and address the problems that have plagued this world, to varying extents and in varying expressions, since before recorded history, will we survive the end of the century.>>94129222Braindead
>>94132501>>94132509Ereyx is just a GigaStacy and best girl.
>>94132485Basically what >>94132503said you could almost consider tier technology in the setting something similar to magi-tech.
>>94129244Also Merope best girl
Can someone post the luminary pages again?
>>94132553>>94132503This still doesn't explain what resources the cyborg needs, or how long it would take to make.
>You can't just make super-advanced magic bioandroi-ACKNah, i'm built different, mine will work.
>>94132510>you could barely make it cheaper making it still not worth it.What is this stupid reply. Making a human body that can move like a human can would be incredibly costly. Specially when the drones only need the specific parts to only do their specific job. Hell, many of the infrastructure on earth can already be controlled by an AI.>Great! now instead of 100000000000000000, it now cost only 99999999999999900!Strawman>how advanced can it be, the cost and time of creating one didn't cross your mind?You only need a few AIs to control all production. It would be worth it.
>>94132561Husanon doesn't want to explain it because he knows techGODS would deconstruct all his rationale and find a way to do it in a week for under a thousand bucks.
>>94132567Vortex best boi.
fordKEKs...
>>94132535>that aren't star runners and magi caseUh it seems you meant to say Echoes.>star runnersFurries in space, undoubtedly his worse idea yet. You are just being a contrarian.>magi caseWe have Fate at home. We have Mage the Ascension at home.Name 3 things fucking Magi Case does that is even slightely different from existing urban mage franchises.
>>94132579>huspedo angered the fordkekss and now they're shitting all over himGood, that's what he gets for being a lolicon.
>>94132579The one clan that hasn't been nerfed...
>>94132571he's arguing against you solely to argue against you, no argument would be good enough for him
>>94132581I don't care about echoes, give me star case or magi runners NOW!
>>94132575vortex is a girl just like rimuru and i must fuck her until she dies
Perfect Mind is going to get nerfed hard as punishment for this melty
>>94132592You are right. I will ignore them now.
>>94132535Why are you interested in them?
>>94132581Echoesbro we don't need to kick the space furries and Auctor victims while they're down, their cyoas are already at the back of the list.
>>94132598Strange, since this is about luminary.
>>94132596>vortex is a girl>just like rimuruAnon...
>>94132606Rimuru is whatever you want to believe he is
>>94132614>he
>>94132614you used "he", you lost
>>94132614That is not how you use genders anon. Stop being a bigot. Use they.
>>94132616>>94132618I'm not that anon
>>94132625You just lost the argument for him though lmao.
>>94132631Nah I said *You* not *I*, Rimuru is whatever anon believes he is
>>94132640>he
>>94132640Aro...
>>94132648What?
>>94132647>>94132648I'm still not anon, I lack insight
>>94132640He is a male in body, he doesnt have sexual organs. Everybody that knows him intimately treats like him like a man, is the king of the monster nation. Everything points at him being male except horny fans
>>94132652You are not going to enter the list of cute authors by acting like that.
>>94132561It's hard to give an exact answer because as I said she is a prototype.She was build after alot of trial and error on other people, planning, gathering material and building/developing the necessary tools to even do it.It is a lot of work.Let's use your cellphone example.Let's say you want to build an Iphone but only know how to build the most basic telephones and are in America during the revolution and you are have a middle class income.To make cyborg armies useful you would need to have access to tons of highly trained manpower and resources of a country.The prototype is more of a work of art than a mass produced object.You need to be careful to not kill the person but it is possible to make the process much more efficient in the future.Like the god emperor mass creating space Marines instead of imperial guards.
>>94132658I don't blame them, even other characters in setting sometimes get flustered by how cute he can be and how he acts like a girl sometimes. I might just fuck him, desu.
>so retarded someone mistook me for aroam I cooked?
>>94132668Slightly seared
>>94132668aro...No, it's just a meme.
>>94132593>Star RunnersAgain, space furries with a Star Wars premise.>Magi CaseYou dodged the question and you already have Magi Case.>>94132602>their cyoas are already at the back of the list.Magi Case is but I'm sure space furry is supposed to be close on the list. Honestly, I would rather have fantasy furry over space furry because space stuff is usually boring as hell or its not that fleshed out in terms of world design. You often have one race represented by one government too.
>>94132658True, but all of this... IS FUCKING IRRELEVANT! Because this is meant to be a new character who is a magitech weapon from the start. Also, they are not called he or she in the entire description.
>>94132675>space furries with a Star Wars premise.Peak>You dodged the question and you already have Magi Case.I need good magi case.
What's stopping me from copying your bioandroid design with heart of nature?
>>94132686Nothing.
>>94132686Probably it being 2 different cyoas. At that point, this is the same as some anon saying the killed you in their imagination, lmao
>>94132680Vortex is male dog pet name
>>94132686it's one hundred feet tall
>>94132693You watched helluva boss didn't you anon...
>>94132692The bioandroid discussion came from Gateaway, so its the same cyoa
>>94132693Vortex is a whirlpool.
>>94132686Can't copy the cybernetic parts.
>>94132697What's stopping me from copying the genetic template of legion to surpass that limitation?
>>941326991. Yes.2. They put him that name because its a classic, basically is the John of pet names for owners that want to make their dog have a "cool" name.
>>94132709The same thing that stops someone with magic to learn the spell that insta kills ultimas.
>>94132703And Cupcake too, still is a pet name
>>94132709You lack power
>>94132725>And Cupcake tooCupcakes are whirlpools?!
>>94132709Nothing, but why simply make yourself an eden when you could clone a legion of legion?
I like HxH... do you like it?
>>94132734No, the character designs are mostly shit.
>>94132718Bioandroids aside there isn't a reason you can't copy Legions genetic template if you have Heart and Genetic legacy. Same with Entropy. It's also reasonable that you could turn yourself into a genetic Chimera of the two as well as other beings.
>>94132730bro is asking for the Dr. Gero treatment
>>94132728I meant Cupcake also has a meaning outside of it being a pet name. My brain skipped that part
>>94132740retard
>>94132744Dr. Jobber is not me, he didn't even consider failsafes in general lmao.
>>94132753cell was the failsafe
>>94132752You get angry because you know it is the truth.
>>94132744Yes please...
>>94132742Anything that makes you personally not a jobber is against the canon of the cyoa and therefore, impossible to do.
>>94132767why is he panicking?
>>94132774>Aro specifically put 'unlikely to' instead of 'incapable of'>Claims that it is impossible to grow
>>94132780He can't get it up anymore. Even with all the technology, he failed.
>>94132774>unlikelynot likely to happen, be done, or be true; improbable.>Impossiblenot able to occur, exist, or be done.Please tell me what the difference between these words is
>>94132794I don't know, i am a techchad
>>94132794NTA, but 0.001% isn't the same as 0%.
>>94132794>>94132782>t. thinks they will be speshulEnjoy your desk jobs, jobbers.
>>94132804I'm already speshul enough to get a flame while everyone else doesn't, why can't I be speshul again?
>>94132780He's surprised after god knows how long the super hot android (that may or may not have been designed after his dead wife) is still down bad for him. this is a non-canon spin-off I think btw
>>94132824You think? lol
>>94132662>It's hard to give an exact answer because as I said she is a prototype.>She was build after alot of trial and error on other people, planning, gathering material and building/developing the necessary tools to even do it.>It is a lot of work.>Let's use your cellphone example.>Let's say you want to build an Iphone but only know how to build the most basic telephones and are in America during the revolution and you are have a middle class income.>To make cyborg armies useful you would need to have access to tons of highly trained manpower and resources of a country.>The prototype is more of a work of art than a mass produced object.So it's only time consuming and expensive because the required supply chains, economies of scale, and trained personnel don't exist yet? Isn't that the same with literally all new radically different technology? Phones were difficult and expensive to make (with the first cell phone in 1983 having a price of $3,995), now you can get a smartphone for under a $100. Seems like Kleidi wasn't willing to bear the R&D cost required to make cyborgs a staple of her army. I'd also argue that with some critical automation technologies this problem wouldn't exist but ehAnd doesn't Chu kind of trivialize some of these? Terrestrial spirits lets you make machines that operate themselves with no AI or maintenance required. They don't even need to be particularly advanced, you could turn a life-sized doll into a useful worker, much less some specialized robot created for a specific task. Not to mention Master Craftsman speeding your crafts up exponentially.Would Master Craftsman even see something like engineering as a "craft" anyways?
>>94132829I don't read dragonball.
>>94132140>all these posts replying to this>not a single one mentions the greatest tool in a Mindthread build's arsenalWhy the FUCK is everyone just glossing over the Nanomachines option? They completely solve all time and logistics and manpower problems. With them you have unlimited manufacturing power. The only thing you need to concern yourself with is designing the new technology, after that you can shit out infinite amounts of it.
>>94132843 (me)I read tokmaballs instead.
>>94132853With white-gold heart you also don't have to consume matter to create things at the (albiet initially slow) build speed. I already said this.
>>94132853I already said that anon is pretending the rest of the cyoa doesn't exist. The problems he mentioned only exist if we pretend you only get mindthread with no other synergizing powers, Legends, or minions
>>94132865Ah, I see your post now. In my defense your post wasn't replying to that post
Gateway is pretty much the epitome cyoa at this point that asks the question:Do you want to have cool powers, or do you want to pick the options that actually allow you have a semblance of strength? Aesthetics vs power is such a painful choice.
>>94132842>Seems like Kleidi wasn't willing to bear the R&D cost required to make cyborgs a staple of her army.Correct, she saw it as not cost effective as her main plan.So she went to extplore other possibilities and one of them worked (You) she has potentially gained a game changing advantage with considerably less investment.She is curently in quite the desperate situation.That she hopes you can help her with with a mutually benefitial agreement.>And doesn't Chu kind of trivialize some of these?Many powers were created to be used in tandem with others to be synergistic.>Would Master Craftsman even see something like engineering as a "craft" anyways?The rule of tumb is that if you are forging or building the thing yourself it counts, like Tony Stark building his suits.
>>94132908Power. There is the only answer.
>>94132908Power, just fake whatever Aesthetics you want later
>>94132908The epitome of shitty design
>>94132908>form vs substanceImagine choosing the former lmao
>>94132945>That she hopes you can help her with with a mutually benefitial agreement.Her ass cheeks and hand in marriage is the payment
>>94132973>>94132974I don't even know how you would fix it desu.
>>94132974This is why I only play Living God. Every other CYOA would require me to be weaker than it, so there is no point.
>>94132990The problem is being capable of creating stuff from nothing.
>Living god out of nowhereObsessed
>>94132990Spelling out how the other heritages kept up with the stargazers probably. If they didn’t have their own (faction level) growth mechanics, they’d have been btfo by the stargazers once they advanced their tech sufficiently.
>>94132990>>94133002No the real problem is that most of the powers like horn, feather, shroud, etc give you magic abilities and nothing else, whereas mind, thread and divine all give you mental boosts. Magic doesn't matter when you're weaker than most of the companions, all that matters is what you can play to your strengths, of which most echoes cannot do.
>>94132990The problem is personal strength. Since aro wanted you to be weak. That means that things that personally boost you are a waste. It is that simple.
>>94133028That only personally boost you, I mean. It also makes the gift section a section for your allies rather than for you and I don't think that was the intent.
>>94133018They do have their own growth and stuff, and for the most part they could also have super-intelligence. and whatever. It literally is, normal planeswalkers are playing nexus while we're playing gateway, which doesn't have a lot of the freedom and stuff that nexus has. I like the companions (Well, really I just like the daughters of light and the dragons) but gateway is just a nexus that forces you to get non-planeswalker companions instead of railroad you into getting planeswalkers you don't care about.
>>94133039That's another true part yea, stuff like the giants gauntlets I considered integrating into power armor for a companion or something since like, wtf am I gonna do with it?
>>94133046Basically this. The companions being so much better than you means it is better to focus on making them even stronger by giving them all the boosts, items, magic, tech, etc... This translates to the whole cyoa being more of a 'be the support' cyoa. Specially since you are paying legions to work for you by giving them resources and help them with their expansion. Key word being 'their' not yours.
>>94132978If that is the payment I may have treated Kleidi too harshly...
>>94133039My take on Gateway is that it is primarily a faction builder CYOA, and the personal powers are really only there so you can leave your safe haven to explore.
>>94132978>>94133082She is a minor...
>>94133091I agree with this. Even when you go out, you will be accompanied and in safe zones if you are smart so not even that. Personal powers are only so that you don't die by tripping on some stairs or similar type of accidents.
>>94132662>space travel exists but cyborgs don'tIs Luminary not actually that high tech at all?
>>94133106In the future, once you have done your job, it will take years
>>94132543>Braindeaduh oh visiting redditor girl mad at me :(
>>94133091>>94133107I've been mulling over making my real build instead of the mindthread build I think is the best, I guess I may as well cause you're kinda right.Now I just need to justify how I pull Mati even though I have shroud and undead...
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>>94133040I don’t mean “how did the individuals grow”. I mean, how did the Wanderers keep up with the Stargazers (for example). Technology is a faction-wide boost to their power. Did the wanderers just keep working out to get more buff and just hoped their top dogs never died? Or did they develop new magic to make sure all the new wanderers got a bigger and bigger head start? If it’s the latter, the same idea should apply in Gateway
>>94133128>I mean, how did the Wanderers keep up with the Stargazers (for example).Plot magic. You aren't supposed to think about these things too deeply; the author sure as hell didn't. It's like asking how the Institute doesn't wipe the floor with the Brotherhood of Steel.
Realistically. In gateway you are the president. You do zero fighting and only go out for some important meetings and even then, you are guarded by your special forces and is in an area that was secured beforehand. You will probably not even be the one making new stuff besides ways to transport between planes. Just a bunch of bureaucracy. Thankfully, we can all imagine something less boring.
>>94133147Bureaucracy can be fun. Magocratic Convention v2 was.
>>94133159lol, lmao.
>>94133117Has husanon said how old she is?She could be one of those characters that are a thousand years old but the human equivalent is like 12 years old.
>>94133164Only 6 years old.
>>94133080>Key word being 'their' not yours.Nah I'm an emperor
>>94133166OUT OF TEN
>>94133164It is always so funny how all anime lolis are 12 year olds. Like come on, everyone was that age at some point and can tell no one looked like that. They all look like they are 7 at best, but more like 5 most of the time.
>>94133166>Only 6Out of 5
>>94133119repost>SatietySeems like a good starter boon, especially for what it morphs into later on, but it doesn't immediately help with my first challenge.>GoblinThis can easily go bad but I'm an adult and the goblin is only as strong as a pre-adolescent child. I can get stabbed but as long as it's disarmed and killed before I bleed out I'll win the challenge and get healed. That machete is too good to pass up, it makes my lack of strength much less of an issue.>Assault (Healing)Satiety once again won't help here much but armed with the machete no armor or shield can meaningfully stand up to me thanks to it's sharpness and I'm sure I can get in at least one surprise kill thanks to that. Picking up a shield or something would be nice, but as long as I can kill 4 guys I pass the test. Completion will unlock the true power of Satiety, Healing is OP as fuck and will undoubtedly be useful in the future.>MineIt seems like this one was made for people with Satiety. No mention of anything else in the mine with you, so the main challenge here is probably not going mad from being stuck in a lightless mine for a week. Which is doable... probably. Walk in one direction, talk to myself, and hope to the gods the seemingly infinite tunnel doesn't have Amigara Fault-type shit in it.>Greed (Upgraded)I was tempted to get Wisdom's upgraded insight but two extra boons is too tempting to pass up. Going to do the Zombies challenge and use my machete + healing + satiety to kill as many as possible while taking minimal breaks. Machete slices through bone, concrete, and steel like butter, some decayed zombies shouldn't be difficult at all to kill in large numbers, especially in a month-long time frame. Every 500 kills is an extra +100% of my current strength, 5000 kills is +1050%, which can bring me from average to strongest human in the world, and beyond that is superhuman territory. Can't really say how strong I would get after this, but 5000 kills is only 167 kills a day.
>>94133147Aren't you allowed to play Gateway however you please, like any other CYOA?
>>94133147Eh, that’s why I think Shroud of Night and Eyes of Reality are mandatory takes for my builds. I want to be able to go explore the multiverse however I want, and those are two of the best anti-gank tools available.
>>94133183Second boon will be the sword technique, combat experience, and general wisdom of Lord Damian. Now a machete isn't a sword but I imagine an actual swordmaster could use a machete better than I can, and having experience and wisdom like that could potentially save my life in the future.>Goblin Village (Forcefield)Armed with superhuman strength, a machete that can cut through damn near anything, fairly fast healing powers, and extensive years of combat experience, taking on even 600 goblins shouldn't be impossible. Just rip and tear until it's done. The forcefield should greatly increase survival chances and turn otherwise fatal blows into something survivable, allowing me to be a decent bit more reckless in combat.>Josephine, Lee Ho JaeJosephine is a no-brainer, that handgun of hers is near-unstoppable and can be a potent weapon against the dragon, and being able to teleport brings her survivability up a few notches. She even has a potent one-time superweapon, maybe we could drop it in the dragon's mouth or a wound in its head or something.Lee Ho Jae... uh, I guess he would be useful against the dragon too. Can use his superhuman speed to dodge and his spear to deal damage if the damn thing is ever grounded. Together we can probably overcome this foe.Not interested in trading any boons or equipment. I'll see how far the stuff I already have gets me on the other side.
>>94133184As long as you post your build so we can give you our superior opinions
>>94133184>Thankfully, we can all imagine something less boringDid you finish reading the post you were replying to?
>>94133193techchad please have mercy
>>94133166>Buil a cyborg at sixBased department?>>94133177As she appears in luminary she looks like 114 or 15 kind of in the middle road of teens.
>>94133201Enlightenment, however painful, is the ultimate mercy
>>94133177That makes it better. 12 is super old
I'm already figuring out my build for Luminary.>Perfect mind >Soul mark>That power to teach powers>And if I have left over points some spirit stuff from Chu.Time to uplift earth...
>>94132945>>94132842Isibros... we might need more than just our wife after all...
>>94133193You don't even reply to mine when I post it>t. techchad
>>94133226Where's your lord of the armory/instantaneous awakening?
>>94133232Post your last pathetic build so I can end this, Yugi
Aro, why did you ignored my build?
>>94133246i'm working on it >>94133126Do I want to combine divine + shroud, or horn + shroud...?
>>94133237I might get awakened avatar to have a instantaneous bodyguard in case of emergency but otherwise I'm not fighting lol
>>94133256Because you're bad at english.
Imagine having to fight. Just shows how weak you are that your enemies can make it all the way to where you are.
>>94133262>Deciding between hot crazy demoness and twink angelMy guy…
>>94133281fighting is fun
>>94133281>t. hidden behind his waifuspathetic
>>94133291No its between shard of divinity or horn, i'm taking the demon no matter what. I might take ambriel, not sure.
>>94133304waifus? I have long since surpassed the lowly needs of flesh.
>>94133262I'm not seeing the synergy in either, except maybe evil larp for the latter.
>>94133308Honestly, if you have samsara, you are already plenty save from dying from something random. Horn is probably better.
>>94133304It's not my fault anon, Aro forced me to be too weak to contribute against our enemies
>>94133314TechGODS.....
>>94133281>>94133314Why techcels like this?
>Fordfags>now thisWhy are techfags so autistic?
>>94133308Do you want to be buff or create more minions? Horn lends itself better to evil build for obvious reasons, but I guess it could be neutral. Shard is neutral so easier to make sense of angels and demons on same team.
>>94133333Quints of techCHADDERY
>>94133324I'm pretty much just a poser, I love the dark lord aesthetic and dark energy and death and shit is cool as fuck, but I don't like being mean to people most of the time...
>>94133326Samsara would never proc against anyone half competent. Imagine not destroying the souls of your enemies lmao.
Why does Tech superiority cause so much controversy?
>>94133349Tok.
>>94133347>Relying on your personal power to survive anythingYou lost Gateway
>>94133347This is for people who are not fighting anon. This is to survive random shit happening to you which is, of course, not going to destroy your soul.
>>94133349People hate that which they can not understand.
I'm too lazy to check, are the other Echoes at least stronger than the minions?
>>94133349Because you pretend that everything is limited except for tech, which in your mind works as a no limits reality warping ala reddit and morty
>>94133365Yes, the only ones you are weaker than are the Legends.
>>94133368>you pretend that everything is limitedsorry for reading the cyoa
>>94133368Except the setting has shown it has these types of technology, retard. It has giant ships the size of moons, androids, some planeswalkers even used technology to traverse the multiverse. You are just crazy mad because you are wrong.
>>94133358Unfounded worry. Even the weakest personal power echo combo far surpassed what "random shit" can do.
>>94133345IMO, you only need horn OR shroud to get the edgy aesthetic. Horn AND shroud is how I did my evil emperor build. If you think raising undead and creating mutants wouldn’t be a fun thing, then it’s probably not the best choice
>>94133345What are you trying to take as your primary ability, horn or shroud?
>>94133386Samsara is just a better failsafe. That is it. You are not going to use any of the other shit from divine shard anyways if you are not fighting. It is a waste.
>>94133396Creating mutants is only good if I can make monstergirls.
>>94133382The problem is we are talking about two cyoas at the same time. In luminary tech is much much much more limited in everything, so making a build based on that has its advanatages but also a fuck ton of weaknesses (and is gay)In gateaway tech and biology combination looks like the strongest path
>>94133405Shroud.
>>94133417Then imo take Shard and become the Death God
>>94133415Mostly because on gateway it is the ultimate god setting. So there is stupid crazy tech and biology. There is probably some ancient weapon that can destroy entire universes too.
>>94133409That’s probably more Heart of Nature, unless your tastes are very different
>>94133417You called?
>>94133435>probably heart of nature>heart has no way to manipulate others????
NEED OC RIGHT NOW
>>94133415>>94133428The main reason I'm sleeping on Heart is because I'm not sure how much I should believe it when it says any living creature
>>94133448Nta but genetic legacy
>>94133448Good point, I was thinking Legion’s powers, but I guess her baseline ability is as close as it gets
>>94133457You probably can't turn into Vortex.
>>94133458Yea, but you have no way to manipulate genes with heart.
>>94131985Tok don't care about dragonfall, or anything else that is popular with the majority of people. Now get ready to eat your upcoming AGP sloppa Tokling!
>>94133469Yeah but where's the limit there
>>94133469Its just a big humanoid dog furry, you can
>>94133455Sorry, Italics stubbed his pinky toe against the edge of my bed. There might be a slight delay .
>>94133474Thats... thats why he acted like a retard with Flesh dancer build faking he thinks he could win against anyone... he knew he would be made a slave and hoped to be raped by sons...He played us like a fiddle
>no very low fantasy isekai where you can use your scientific knowledge to larp as a wizardyou're all hacks and frauds
>>94133497That's just called africa.
>>94133457I will believe it 100% and become an Ultima.
>>94133477Space whale
>>94133477As long as its build falls between tardigrade and blue whale, you can become it. This includes giant fuck off birds like a Roc, tiyanki, great hybrids, chimeras, smaller dragons, etc.
Oh no, aro came and delivered her DOGSHIT response
>>94133501Ultima are conceptual lifeforms, not organic ones.
>>94133116Kleidi and her followers are survivors basically stranded on a forgotten corner of the cosmos. She is extremely intelligent but lacks access to instructions on how rebuild stuff she took for granted.
>>94133415>>94133428I was actually just thinking that Heart and Mind of Machines is the sleeper combo that really hasn't been talked about, especially if you take nanomachines, genetic legacy, and consider my post here >>94132742
>>94133521What about Life Ultima?
>>94133497>And these computers, could you build one for us?>Well, no…>Okay, but then perhaps this internal combustion engine?>….well
>>94133520Aro...
>>94133527concept of Life
>>94133494Yes. All sons trying to rape him all got outsmarted by tok. It's what he wanted.
I'm goint to make one of the worlds a basic medieval setting where one science autist got isekaied and now control the royal family from the shadows and is leading a techno-magical industrial revolution.He wants to come back to earth to conquer it once he is done with this world.
>>94133525hus how old is Kleidi? and how would she be in a marriage, loving or cold type?
>>94133494>>94133556At last I truly see...he really was being retarded on purpose.
>>94133562She is aproximately 14 in human years.Hes species lives up to a thousand years.
>>94133558I'm making pic realted the world in my minion cyoa #n+1.
>>94133598Damn, too old then. She's already a hag.
>>94133605>the world is a bunch of ugly bimbosgrim
>>94133605Grim
>>94133605Grim...
>>94133633>>94133621>>94133612You called?
>>94133562And in marriage well depends on your attitude and how you treat her.If you really like her she will return those feelings or it could be a cold political marriage.>>94133608She is expired...
>>94133605Are those Bratz dolls??
>>94133598She needs a form to live longer then, probably some artifact can make it, right?
>>94133640I am going to kill you.
>>94133640Yes, please delet this universe>>94133605
>>94133641>And in marriage well depends on your attitude and how you treat her.If you really like her she will return those feelings or it could be a cold political marriage.Loving then, if you marry someone you need to treat that person with love and care. Just hoping she isnt too mad if some artifacts are there in the middle
>>94133656The next Hound is going to kill him, out of respect, he is clearly too damaged mentally
>>94133670>marries a hagdisgusting
>>94133696Love is love
>>94133409>I like the aesthetic of being evil but don't like being meanVeigarmaxxing
>>94133676I wasn't planning too
>>94133720No, you silly, I am the next Hound, what a silly mistake...
>>94133734Machine killing son....
>>94133676Is he really mentally damaged if he's strong enough to fight an almost omnipotent dragon god? Whatever he's got going on is clearly working.
>>94133647Yes 2 artifacts can grant agelesnessOne is the axe as it can turn peopl into superior undead this is passive but comes with drawbacks.Another grants it by performing a personalized longevity ritual that keeps you at your ideal age and at peak physical performance.
>>94133758>How to cure schizophrenia with weight lifting
>>94133758He has a fractured mind, does things without logic behind, only sometimes has a semblance of a rational thought rambles and acts demented.The guy must have been a beast before whatever happened to him that got him mindbroken but right now he is a body of incredible power, insticts and madness
>>94133676>implying he canIf you know, you know.
Get along, try again>>94133826>>94133826>>94133826
>>94133605>Tok plans to torture lolifags by forcing them to see giant tits in the sky.Is he secretly a genious?
>>94133829I'm tired of redditors posting new threads almost immediately after we exceed 350 posts just to repost the same CYOAs.
>>94133856Stupid tarditors
>>94133856It is fucking annoying, we had 4 danm threads at once not too long ago because people just pop threads before shit slide off the board
>>94133856Oh? What cyoas do you think are getting reposted thread after thread?
Deepest Pit
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Conduit Agent
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Shine
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I'm Angry!
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Rock Golems
Monster High
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$#|tty Monster Marriage Agency
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Supernatural Investigator
Echoes
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KAIFU
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Institute of Your Class
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Archnemesis
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Suitability
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College Roommate
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Illegal Space Empire
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Craftlovian Baked Goods
Comfy Apartment
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Secret World (a.k.a. the Bee)
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Dimensional Traveler
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>>94133640Fun show. It's a shame that Cartoon Network was so touchy about the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and kept trying to add other storylines and groups (like Hector Concarne)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpLRJyWe814&pp=ygUPYnJhaW5zIHZvbHRhaXJl
Wow . . .slow board.
>>94140240There's a new thread if you thought this is the active one>>94133829
