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Is it possible to build a viable deck with him as your commander?
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>>94185748>TQReturn to Lorwynn probably. I’m interested in Innistrad Remastered but only because if they reprint Avacyn, Angel of Hope and The Meathook Massacre the prices might drop.
>>94185748>What set are you looking forward to the most in 2025?I will never look forward to another set as long as I liveEach set is one step closer to the end and we have already endured so muchId be down for a break
>>94185762>is one of the stronger WU commanders good?Iunno anon you tell me.
>>94185762yeah but be prepared to be hated out before the game even begins on reputation alone
>>94185788>Return to Lorwynn probablyI cant wait to see how broken the untap shit is going to be and how fucking awful they fuck the aesthetics
>>94185810With extra releases and UB shit we're at what.. 8 releases per year, now? I feel like spoilers for the next set starts coming out the same week a new set releases
>>94185762I don’t think Grand Arbiter Augustin IV is ever going to be a viable commander when everyone whose ever seen him knows to nuke him on sight
>What set are you looking forward to the most in 2025?I've wanted a "throws equipment at people" commander for fuckin YEARS so after that Cap America leak I'm very interested in seeing how his card is
>>94185748>TQLike you even need to ask.
>>94185816>How do we fit more poc and trannies into this set?!
>>94185861Please learn to think about something that isn't American twitter-politics
>>94185812Its no where near as strong as Najeela though.
>>94185868Tell that to wotcNothing would make me happier than mtg changing its aesthetic to permanent bloomburrow modeThat way they wouldnt feel the need to constantly shove things in for twitter reasons
>>94185897I'd like it too since it meant I could finally quit. If they decide to make every set like one of the sets I skipped going forward, then I don't have to care anymore.
>>94185907Win/win
Does anyone have that Meme that went with this LotR image about EDH groups?
>>94185928The one that's just like, a solid block of pseudointillectual waffle?
>>94185748So... What's his bracket?
Is Izzet even playable without it devolving into Solitaire??
>>94185975I'd say T2. T3 at best.>>94185984You have to force yourself not to. Can't include most blue/red cards in your deck.
>>94185897I just think there are better places and better ways to express your discontent than raging about trannies in a thread of people who have been hearing the same complaints ad nauseam for god knows how many years now. >Tell that to wotcWhy don't you? Directing the rants about Aragorn or that one duskmourn cheerleader to their twitter accounts or something would probably be more effective at influencing a faceless multinational corporation than putting them here (a place hasbro suits are certainly not reading) among people who would probably be more inclined to share your beliefs if you weren't so insufferable about forcing them.You can call me a libtard or troon or whatever but it's just tiresome, man, beating a dead horse for ages. Can't discuss shit in this thread without some teenager popping up to whine about DA WOKIES every single fucking day.
>>94185991>T3 at bestIt's a 1 mana 6/6 with Flying and Lifelink.
>>94185928You mean this one?
>>94185984Wizard punch is a perennial favorite of the old guy at our store
>>94185993>Can't discuss shit in this thread without some teenager popping up to whine about DA WOKIES every single fucking day.20 years later, still the truest thing to ever describe the internet.
>>94185993You might think there are better places to bring it up but I don't and so he we are. Congrats on using a lot of words to say nothing.
post irl decks
>>94186008>Wizard punchI'm interested. Is it some wizard-voltron thing? Wizard tribal that runs the usual "buff your creatures/your stuff has trample" setup?
>>94185997dies to tier 1 removal
>>94185997yeah it'd be cracked in limited
Is he any good nowadays or has he been left in the dust? I want to play Big creatures rakdos and he seems to be the way
>>94185997>T4 kills the table turn two>T3 casts swords on it>T2 wipes board turn fourI didn't realize I was talking to a T1 player.>>94186040T2, PL6
>>94186027Go wide with wizards, old fart uses og niv miz and controls the board mostly by drawing cards and dealing damage to would be blockersCuriosity combo wins him about half of his games the other half is turning archeomancers sidewaysCoat of arms, Kindred Charge and shares animosity help
>>94186023Feeling really proud of it after tonight, so I'm posting the brand new pic. Don't really feel the need to change anything out unless I come into having a Strip Mine for maximum damage. I draw cards pretty well, it mills me pretty fast, and the violence is awesome.
>>94185984Yes but it means you aren't 0laying spellslinger, so you basically aren't playing izzet.
>>94186067Blessed shovel bro. The dedication is admirable
>>94185958Yeah, that one.
>>94186067>shenanigans>no liquimetal torque
Unban Mana Crypt
>>94186112I have considered this at length, do you think it's a good idea? I've probably got a copy of that sitting around somewhere>>94186094Now I have all 3 prints, the profile, foil etched, and the base one from the precon
>>94185748>innistrad remasterNo opinion>death race 0laneRetarded>TarkirDon't really beed more dragons, but sure. Maybe they'll give us the final 3 color elder dragons (they won't).>final fantasyKill me>another scifi setI hate scifi, but the concept art looks okay>return to lorwynSounds fun but I'm skeptical without details, especially with the kamigawa comparison.>strixhavenNo opinion>endgameI have no investment at all in the story after jace got "loot" for no apparent reason only to lose it to volgavoth for no apparent reason. Seemed to just be a handoff of a mcguffin, which is shit so my investment is zero right now and the end of the arc means nothing to me.So, in summary, Lorwyn might be cool, or they'll ruin it, let's see.
>>94186126>>94186067>>94186112thisLiquimetal Torque has a long and respected history with Shenanigans for repeatable removal.
>>94185984Yeah. Izzet is great for polymorph into Eldrazi or Hullbreaker Horror or whatever.
>>94186140You forgot about Marvel
>>94186140>final fantasyI still don't know how the fuck they're going to do this. Are they doing all 15 games, or just like.. the 5+ most popular? Is it going to be like 100+ legendary characters and some shit mobs?
>>94186195Not sure, but I hope we get equipment and W catgirls.
>>94186112>shenanigans toqure>not shenanigans coatingshiggy
>>94185748Can I build Najeela without it being OP? I kind of want to do warrior tribal.
>>94186140I’ll only give a fuck about Tarkir if they go back to the original Khans color typing. I don’t know what the fuck they were thinking starting off with a fun concept and then going “actually it’s just 50% of Ravnica now… b-but with dragons though!”
I've lost count of how many times I've found a legendary creature so extraordinarily interesting, and have such an intense desire to build a deck with them, only to be like "eh what's the point, it'll just die to removal the second it's on the board" and abandon it completely. This guy is so fucking cool but MAN it'll get targeted so quickly
>>94186324Yeah, abandon the 5c ability.
>>94186341Just make all of the equipment protection. Dude doesn't need any more help swinging when he gets dressed.
>>94186341That’s how I feel any time I actually want to do a Voltron deck. One of these days I’ll pull the trigger.
>>94186372Went with him and it's *okay* cuz he'll still get exiled a lot of time before I have a chance to draw out one of my hexproof equipments. When he does work thought it's real fuckin neato getting Battalion off with trample
>>94186341Thats me but with any commander over 5 CMC. Players see its high cost and just save removal for the second I cast it. That and there are much cheaper commanders that run amok.
Building her for reanimator. What are some spicy creatures to bring back, and how many reanimation spells should the deck run?
>>94186327I and most people I know agree with you. Dragons were fine, but Khans was much cooler.
Played a lot of BG3 and am now just starting to step foot into MTG in general. I'm just starting my first real EDH deck and when I saw Minthara I knew that she should be the commander I build around.Does anyone have any cheapish Minthara decks they can recommend for someone just getting into the game? I'm not looking to be uber competitive since it's just a couple of casual friends that I'm playing with.
>>94186419Okay but what if 3c dragons
>>94186406Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur and you should have at least 9 reanimation effects in the deck >>94186444https://moxfield.com/decks/ivS_2ZGOzkCAFC12RBJxHw this list is a good starting point
>>94186444>Cheap lands that fetch a basic>Cheap creatures that ETB sacrifice>Cheap token producersYou'll have to find the cards yourself, but that is the simple and cheap way of building her.
>>94186319>Not the full Shenanigans/Shattering Pulse/Torque/Coating packagengmi
how do I make her work???
>>94186444edhrec.com and plug her in
>>94186484>Jin-Gitaxias, Core AugurFirst creature I put in the 99. Well, second, but I count Sol'Kanar the Tainted as reanimation.
>>94186493By playing the good side, for starters
>>94186444>>94186493>>94186519wtf is with my dumb monkey brain that sees wildly-colored skin and instantly goes into "dear god I wanna mate with it" mode??? fucks SAKE
>>94186057>T2 wipes board turn fourafter taking a 24 life-swing and blowing his own board? a-okay. >T3 casts swords on itProtection Exists.>T4 kills the table turn twoCounterspell Exists
>>94186528That's your lizard brain desire to conquer and inseminate foreign tribes
>>94186519>By playing the good side, for startersNope, I want the one that discounts my x spells and could lead to sick turns of spells going off at the same time
>>94186444Worth noting that experience counters are given to the player, not the creature, meaning that generating them from multiple effects applies the bonus from all relevant cards.
>>94186444>On a budgetCards to add:>ProliferateWhisper of the DrossUnbounded PotentialProud Pack-RhinoNorn's Choirmaster Drown in IchorMetastatic EvangelStaff of CompleationContagion Clasp>Flicker effectsEphemerateFlickerwispCloudshift>Non-Minthara flicker targetsSpirited CompanionSolemn SimulacrumCircuit Mender>Go-wide enablersJacked RabbitNested ShamblerElenda, the Dusk Rose>General ideaFlicker Minthara repeatedly to build up experience counters, using Proliferate effects to add even more experience counters. Once you have 3-5 counters, most tables can't kill her outside of board wipes that don't target. Then you just build up a large board of tokens and kill everyone
Didn't know this card, it's kind of neat. Generates five bodies to sacrifice for a single card, one mana per body. Not bad for aristocrats decks
>>94186558Minathra should be your LAST target for flickering. I also think that conjurers closet would work as a budget, repeatable flicker option since it also triggers at beginning of end step and you can choose which trigger to resolve first.
I have decided to remove all forms of ramp from my decks.
>>94186341>>94186372Go faster + protection. My krenko deck has like an 80% winrate. Helps that his ability seems like nothing until I still a Stoneforge Masterwork on him and he's swinging for 30 and making 15 more blockers.
>>94186634If you had no permanents leave the battlefield that turn before the Conjurer's Closet trigger, Minthara won't trigger. CC and Teleportation Circle are still both good, repeatable flicker effects, but they will not give you experience counters.
Is he any good?
>>94186688So you're pubstomping
>>94186702No.
>>94186659This will make your decks much worse.>>94186688>I play dork>I play Selvala>I play Serra's Emissary, name creaturesHonestly depends on the power level of the pod if those aggro decks are viable or not.>>94186528Just jerk off? That makes the horny go away for a while.>>94186538Okay, you can prove me wrong by protecting your 1 mana 6/6 and killing the table in 21 turns.
>>94186714>killing the table in 21 turnsI don't need to kill the entire table with one card. I just need to do pressure on the right opponent. If i'm forcing someone to spend a removal after taking 12-18 damage to the face for 1 mana, that's already good enough.
>>94186713Why? A 2-mana 8/8 flying that can get fatter seems pretty good.
>>94185748Going to build him as stax. How do i break parity with him? Hes good at killing mana dorks when opponents are recovering from a wipe and accelerating, how else could i do so after casting stuff like obliterate and devastation?
>>94186493Okay, I'm not 100% on this because I'm not very familiar with the gameplan, but let me try and grok it.Uvilda comes in turn 3. If you can haste her, she exiles that turn and on turn 6 your sorcery or instant comes online, otherwise she starts turn 4 and goes off turn 7. Each turn after that you can have another spell queued up and ready to cast from exile. With their costs reduced by 4, you're arguably going to be only playing their colored costs, with that in mind:- You need haste sources. Things like cunning coyote that you can plot the previous turn, or any other non-mana haste granter that costs less than 3 is ideal. Otherwise you need a little ramp.- You need board presence before she comes online: You're going to be playing some cheap control or putting out some chump blockers. Control route might be okay, but redundant haste-granting dweebs might give you some cheaper board presence.- You want some plot cards: Even with all the mana you're saving with her exiles, we don't want big turns, we want huge turns. Fblthp, Lost on the Range opens you up to plotting anything you like, as does Jace Reawakened.- You want to run Paradox Haze and The Ninth Doctor for additional upkeeps. If you have both down, you start getting your honed spells the next turn. So far as I can tell this is your only way to accelerate Honed spells other than extra full turns.- You want... well, the sorceries and instants you're gonna be honing.A sample (idealized) opening might go like this:Turn 1: Mountain, Sol RingTurn 2: Island, Uvilda, Haste source instant or sorcery for 1, Tap Uvilda exiling ???A more realistic but still fast opening might be:Turn 1: Mountain, Bloodlust InciterTurn 2: Island, Plot Cunning Coyote or Highway RobberyTurn 3: Land, Uvilda, Haste Uvilda, Tap Uvilda exiling ???As for the rest, you're on your own. I have no idea where to go with it.
>>94186724>2 mana 8/8You do realize there's a 1 mana 6/6 flying lifelink in the format, right? >>94185975
>>94186444I made this list a long while ago. Just cut out some expensive cards I already owned. Probably cpuld use so more draw an needs a ton of cuts, but it's a solid base, I think.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nW3zLj2I60GP3VbzFWXarQ
>>94186709It's like a 30 dollar deck, and I only bring it out when we want a fast game. They all know the deck.
>>94186714>serra's emissarylol, lmao even
>>94186728>I have no idea where to go with itI'm thinking she needs untap effects that way you compound the benefit of her ability. If you could use her ability even twice in a turn three turns later you'll get 8 extra manas worth of value
>>94186752That's another good idea. In any case you wanna be fidgeting her as early and often as possible. Run big X spells but remember that you're telegraphing hard when these are coming down. Expect to have to play through counters and protection. That being said, you're going to be untapped fully when these go off, so any soft counterspells you're going to be able to blow off like a parking ticket. Another good option are spells that will copy your spells.It's good to remember that while protecting Uvilda is necessary to exile your spells, they'll go off no matter where she's at, and at 3 cmc she's not going to be impossible to recast.
>>94186731The 8/8 is bigger and he can keep getting bigger though.
>>94186769The 8/8 doesn't make a 12 life-point swing at turn 2.
>>94186722>1 mana card take 1 card from an opponent is goodWow, this 1 mana black common can take out 3 cards and 6 life!
>>94186726>break parity on an effect that isn't symmetrical>asking for help on a commander that spews cards and lightning boltsDon't breed.
>>94186790Hey aside from bolt and get extra cards what am i expected to do? It feels like if i don't have a definitive lock or some kind of "I win" setup going my opponents will just restabilize with enough time.
>>94186825Cirrect. It's a very open card. Not much guidance. Izzet goodstuff, usually.
>>94185997Right, but it doesn't just immediately win the game. It's not an infinite combo piece. It's not a part of any T4 strat, so yeah, T3. T4 is comp. At best it's a blocker/removal target to stall the game out a bit. In lower tiers it wrecks house cause removal is sparse and turn 2/3 wins don't happen. In T4 you creature is a beater and can be completely ignired cause it won't do anything to get in the way of or further a wincon.
>>94186825all the "blow up all shit" cardshe's indestructible, you're in redblow up the board (jokulhaups) and draw things until you can spit in your opponent's faces with isochron-reversal combo or something
>>94186023Need to take a better picture once I finally got some bloody free time but Im enjoying this one alot more than I expected. It won't keep up with Korvold but at decent powered tables it can atleast carry its weight.
Does this seem like a fun deck? I really don't have any go wide decks, I feel like they're all sort of the same buff + attack strats, so I don't really touch them, but I need a boros deck, so I want to ask if this seems like fun to people.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/JKy5bpXVQUicIeTiqTh0wA
>>94185984Very
>>94186973Please tell me, I need a replacement. I tried to make something interesting and chose Eruth of all commanders. It's as solitaire as solitaire gets. Literally go through my entire deck multiple times every time I play it.
> Box Art> vs> Art on the Fucking CardI'm actually seething. It's literally some frida kahlo shit. Only straight men and lesbians should be allowed to make art.
>>94186993Jhoira10th doctor
>>94185984I built it spell slinger token generators. Young Peezy, Talrand, Murmuring Mystic, Balmor, ext. Mine is kind of weak, but I like drawing cards and I like making tokens. You can probably make a higher power version. I'm not sure. Maybe Jeskai is better?
Look the clown zone made something to laugh at againCaptcha: PRAAA8
>>94187000Worst offender is Lathril imo. Box art looks great, card art looks like some WoW reject shit. Sort of like Dina, her promotional art looked good, the one where there was the glowing fish, but the actual card looks like shit.
>>94186195They've said it will contain stuff from every main series game. Who knows if it will actually be good fanservice or not, although I hear they did well flavor wise with Fallout and DrWho
>>94187046I agree with everything here except unbanning leovold and keeping limited resources banned.
>>94187014>suspend crapShit out big things is expensive and boring.
>>94187054>Disa and LathrilHaha wow, I bought the deck on release and honestly forgot about how nice that art was.
>>94186040>Rakdos, male preg
>>94187054Many such cases. I don't understand why.
>>94187086I used the art to make a custom elf token counter. Good shit.
>>94186067>two copies of a worthless commander>hodgepodge of mechanics like descend, dredge, and bloodrush(?)>almost no removal>0 board wipes>no combo that i can see to actually close out games>UBshit>jumbled borders>jumbled arts>slop basics>only 12 basics>pointless land subtheme with no payoff>ugly cheap foils
>>94187046Leovold, panoptic, Eryao and Golos are on the "Should stay banned" List. Leovold for degeneracy, panoptic cause it's a 1 card infinite turn combo, Erayo since it's just genuinely awful to play against and banned as a commander ain't a thing anymore, and Golos because it just genuinely a large swathe of commanders obsolete. Recurring nightmares shold definitely be in the could unban tier since grave hate is so fuckin' easy to come by nowadays that the difficulty destroying it ain't much of a problem. For the record when it was banned I think the only real graveyard nukes were Tormod's crypt and that was about it. >>94187065Limited resources is a card that just flat out should not exist outside of a 1v1 format. it doesn't scale properly and can easily just randomly shut one player out of the game entirely for a single white mana. It ain't the strongest card on the banlist for sure, but it's just flat out not a good time to play against or around.
>>94187105we get it you have shit taste in decks
>>94187046>Unban FlashThese people have played the game before, right?
>>94187014>>94187084I should say, I also don't want artifact theme, wheel theme, tribal theme, or exile theme, as I already have a couple decks for each of those.
>>94187140Evidently not since they think leovold and golos are anywhere but "Keep this nigga banned at all costs" tier. They legitimately might not have started playing until like this year or last year.
>>94187149Both a very much rule 0 okay, but should remain banned.
>>94186825>indestructibleSymmetrical destroy wipes leave Keranos. You can very easily toss in a handful of red "all creatures take damage" spells to shit on the board>sometimes isn't a creatureMass creature bounce or exile will sometimes ignore Keranos>cares about top of librarySensei's Top, tutor-to-top, Scroll Rack, Future Sight, Lantern of Insight, sell mill. These are all tools that can guarantee which trigger you get>draw a cardAlways strong>bolt a creature or playerControls the board. Damage lasts until end of turn so you can bolt something and follow up with more burn spells to finish higher toughness creatures.>how do I win6/5 indestructible commander that clears blockers can kill with 4 swings and has built in protection for voltronCard draw engine helps power through your deck to assemble combosGroup slug builds are aided by extra draw and extra damageMeme decks can use cards like Helm of the Host or other legendary copy effects to generate one shit ton of lightning boltsDecks that want to win off the Keranos triggers can use damage multipliers like Furnace of Rath to make those lightning bolts very painful very fastIf you want to make your opponents very sad the Keranos trigger is lethal in games that go real long, such as stax or lock out builds.
>>94187161Also scrying and surveiling (obviously) for top of library shit. There's also a couple cards like brainstorm that let you fix what the top of your library is.
>>94187046I think Upheaval could get the Worldfire treatment in a few years since phasing and nonblue counters have become more of a thing.It's not quite there yet, but I feel like WotC will print anti-bounce and anti-phasing tech to keep selling cardboard. When a critical mass of this stuff exists, it will be easy to play around.
>>94187121I'd never unban nightmares since it's only 3 mana and repeatablethe problem is not that there was less grave hate then. it's that you will not always have it and at that low of a cost it comes down pretty early before people have even drawn many cards and it has to be instant speed. if you plop down a spellbomb or whatever in time then you have to pray it doesn't get removed since you telegraphed itsure there are other reanimation tricks that are also good/fast and can win the game on the spot but unbanning more is not the solution
>buy some bulk>find a legends print picrel in the boxDo any anons have any experience playing with or against him? Are there any fun jank, interactions, or deck builds or is it just value flickershit that id be better off selling to recoup my cost?
>>94187149b-but muh deck diversity!! golos is just better than my current commander so I should just run him!
>>94187190>PhasingYes>Nonblue countersUh... Not really?There's also a critical difference between worldfire and Upheaval. Worldfire progresses the game state, Upheaval strictly regresses it. Yeah, both of them wipe the slate clean, but worldfire puts everyone into sudden death mode and that can be used to turn it into a wincon VERY easily. Upheaval just.. puts everything back into its owner's hand. Life totals are the same and outside of phasing (which is still pretty rare) there's not much to dodge it. The only way it puts any player at an advantage is if they had a reliquary tower so instead of discarding most of their boardstate, they just have to slowly build it back up.
>>94187190I thought that's why sway of the stars was there
>>94187121Graveyard nukes that aren't instant speed are practically useless against recurring nightmare. And even if they are, you just fill the graveyard back up and play it again.
>>94187203"I won't always have an answer to a problem" is not a valid argument as to why something is too powerful. You also don't seem to understand why grave hate fucks it over. Even at sorcery speed, grave hate still fucks it over since it removes the option for them to actually bring shit back. Even if they try to kill your spellbomb or relic or whatever you can still get a good amount of their yard out of the equation. Plus, nowadays there's MULTIPLE ways to just say "No" to the concept of graveyards existing. Yeah, they can get recurring nightmares online turn three. Rest in peace comes out a turn earlier. So does Dauthi voidwalker. And leyline of the void can come out two turns earlier than that. All of them prevent 'yards from even existing.
>>94187147>>94187084Then you're an idiot. Don't request non-combo commanders and then go "XD BUT NOT THAT" fucking smart ass. No, there is no whatever fucking weird niche you want>Uh I want a deck but not with 99% of themes or deck typesMaybe just don't make a new deck
>>94187149Most commander players are retarded and don't understand what makes a card busted. Most of the banlist is good with only a couple of cards that have an argument for unbanning.
>>94187046>Keep Lutri bannedNo, Unban the fucker and just make an exception. Stop acting like you can't.>keep griselbrand, the merfolk, nadu, trade secrets etc banned but unban shit like prime time, primordial, blinkable MLD and a commander that makes mono color auto scoopThese niggas dumb as hell
>>94187236What if rest in peace, dauthi voidwalker, leyline of the void or grafdigger's cage is busy existing on the battlefield? Those aren't particularly uncommon cards to see, and Cage is fucking colorless alongside relic (Which is instant speed grave hate) so it's not like being able to deal with this is exclusive to any color in particular. Similarly, Graveyard horseshit is so prevalent nowadays that you basically HAVE to have some way of being able to burn someone's yard in your deck in order to be competitive
>Format is already cancer to the point that it's been divided into cedh and regular edh.>I know, we can make the format better by unbanning more cancer cards!You know, I think we should ban more cards. Get rid of fucking fast mana, tutors, and cheap combos.
>>94187046Chaos orb doesn't need to be on the list because it is defacto banned in all formats under the whole "physical abilities" rules. No need to tell me a card requiring physical activity is banned when they are all banned automatically in all formats. Might as well put un-cards on the ban lists.
>>94187279Manual dexterity, ante and Sherezade are banned in all formats (Except kitchen table). So there's no need for them to be in consideration to be unbanned.
>>94187244>is not a valid argumentin my opinion it is when the threat is this low mana cost and repeatable>you can still get a good amount of their yard out of the equationas a graveyard player myself. getting nuked once or twice is not that backbreaking because I don't overextend. usually just get one or two scary things in there to bait out exile effects anyway. sure I might not always have the backup but that's the playpattern>Even at sorcery speedit's already too late most of the time>Rest in peace, leyline of the voidyou CAN play these yes, if you feel like the meta is grave heavy. but other than that these are dead cards and I wouldn't just jam them in if my deck didn't synergise with them. say, an enchantment deck. Dauthi voidwalker is a good example tho. that card goes to many decks and can be there just because it has a good effect. same with scavenging ooze, hearse and the new vacuumso yeah. there are new ways to fuck up yards and it's going in better direction BUT it's not incidental enough to let graveyards run free. it's the same reason why people hate treasures. they are plentiful but the treasure hate cards are not plentiful enought to run in every which deckI was a bit hasty to say "I'd never unban" tho I give you that
>>94187260their reasoning for iona and braids was that you can always decline to play against those decks when you see them on the table. same didn't apply to leovold and golos for some reason tho
>>94187319So their logic is that they don't have logic.Good to know.But we already knew they were mentally deficient when they posted the list and didn't even include the entire commander banlist and included shit on the VINTAGE banlist
>>94187319>their reasoning for iona and braids was that you can always decline to play against those decks when you see them on the table.This is true for every fucking commander. So yeah that is a nonsense excuse.I also do not see much reason why Nadu is "OMG NEVER UNBAN BUT GO AHEAD AND UNBAN LEOVOLD." I adamantly believe Nadu gets all this shit solely because of modern. He was never a problem or even a major deck in commander. The fact no one cared is a testament to the fact no one fucking played him anyway.
>>94187334He should be on the banlist since his existence is a mistake.There's a few cards like that. Like most of Ikora.
>>94187261>Those aren't particularly uncommon cards to seeDauthi is the only one I even expect to see. Maybe if my meta(s) had more graveyard, I'd see the others more es well. But I never see them outside of enchantment decks.
>>94187342I agree with this if they banned other mistakes like Roaming Throne.
>>94187348Graveyard is an extremely common strategy these days. It always has been, but there's some very good commanders now that focus heavily on it.
>>94187358Yes, and?
>>94187350and arcane signet
>>94187369Delete brawl from arena as punishment
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
aw shit this is gonna devolve into one of those "just run silver bullets" like the mill discussion, isn't it
>>94187385I wish you would say why
>>94187393why would 40 be better than 30?
>>94187248Just found out how Nin works, so brewing her now. She fits my specs just fine. Also booba.
>>94187266They're breaking it into tiers to make certain bs cards easier to call out, like fast mana-- except sol ring because nonsense.
>>94187411KYS shitposter who refuses to answer. Die.
>>94187428right back at ya
>>94187422the tiers are to increase revenue and no other reason
>need a couple of cheap draw spells in naya>remember that Rocco existsis there anything this gay elf can't do
>>94187385Anon, you know it's spelled forty right?Also fuck it, go for 60. 20 life per opponent as god intended.
>>94187436Be playable by autists
I sincerely hope that one day, a retard will punch a high-ranking WotC employee to death. And then, when they do their usual corporate newspeak about toxic fans, I hope it happens again, several times in a row, until they are too afraid to ever spout shit like "hurr durr fast mana bad, except SOVL ring" ever again.
>>94187436>cheap>costs 4+ mama to get anything than creature land or memeknightit's a cantrip, anon. which by definition is not draw
>>94187455Do you really believe that the RC were wotc employees?
>>94187462Do you really believe this wasn't a coordinated effort?
>>94187441Not him but it should be spelled fourty, and was for a very long time. Then people started spelling it forty for no dicernable reason so now that's the spelling, again, for no real reason. I say bring back fourty since it makes a great deal of sense and forty makes none.
>>94187459wrong rocco, I'm talking about the 3cmc impulse draw one
>>94187462Yes. Post evidence otherwise>I have noneYou lose.
>>94187468Based on them explicitly stating that there was a lack of communication and lots of people were pissed off and quit the RC and related groups because of exactly that? Yes.
>>94187475Anon its been 400 years, let it goIt's forty now
>>94187468i dont think wotc wanted stores to lose shitloads of money on cards and lose trust in them and their product, so no
>>94187491IT'S FOURTYCOLOURTRAVELLER
>>94187459
>>94187491If there was no reason to change it, and there'as a good reason to change it back, I don't see why I should.
>>94187494>thinks wotc gives a fuck how stores feelWOTC is very aware that stores need them. Wotc doesn't need the stores. If they cared about stores then you'd never have had shit like SLDs and things like stores getting a whole one 30th anniversary pack, and all others being direct from WOTC.If WOTC cared about shops then they wouldn't make a massive set and then refuse to ever allow shops to sell it.
>>94187501You couldn't save it the first time and you can't change it now.This is all your fault, immortal
>>94187475Forty takes one less letter than fourty, which matters when printing a newspaper or buying neon letters. It's the same reason why some places use donuts instead of doughnuts.
>>94187459Who the fuck plays the tutor Rocco? It does nothing. When someone says Rocco they mean the fun one.
>>94187510If that mattered that's just use the number 40.
>if you cast a spell with converted mana cost 6this will only check for what's actually written on the card and won't trigger with X spells, but it will trigger with 6cmc spells that are being reduced by stuff like medallions, right?
>>94187514>Who the fuck plays the tutor Rocco?Rocco players who want to tutor the fat hobbit
>>94187529After the switch over to mv, I have no clue. Pretty sure it was the opposite before the switch.
Door lady is pretty fun and ETB: Draw 7 is pretty good
TONIGHT I'M PLAYING FEATHER (THE BAD ONE) AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME
>>94187620TONIGHT I AM PLAYING A GIANT MARSHMELLOW MAN AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME
>>94187626I’m just sad no one can stop your diabetes and hyper tension.
>>94187643I'm not eating him, anon.
>>94187626You can really tell they were reaching when they made that one. It's almost as bad as the Ghost Busters symbol being Boros Charm purely because it is red and white.
>>>94186023hey
>>94187484gays can't multiply
>>94187491kek 400 years rent free must be a new record
>>94187161actual advice i needed, thank you.I want to run stuff like land equilibrium and a few walkers as my wincons after i oblterate or jokulhaups, that solid combined with everything else youve mentioned?
>>94187650I think it works fine for Stay Puft. All he is is a giant marshmellow man that does nothing else but be big and destroy shit
what else should I add
>>94187212chromatic orrery/filtering and a flicker creature?or infinite colorless with Eldrazi Displacer?
>>94187657This better be a fucking proxy, anon
>>94187657to tier 4 with ye
>>94186023
>>94187657Jesus christ anon how much did this cost you??
>>94186444Just know you are beginning to play mtg during a pretty awful period in general and with a format that is currently being dragged through the mud. For the love of God, please proxie your deck before you buy stuff
My local scene fell apart, how's yours?
>>94187000Bring back NielsenThe game is for everyone
>>94187825Averages like 50 people each week
>>94187000Both are bad.
>>94187046>could unban braidsPlaying against t1 braids sucks an unmitigated amount of dick and balls absolutely not
>>94187706He is not a frog tho
>>94187825shop moved into a bigger building and now there are even more people clogging it up.I never went to commander night because you have to literally step over people and their tables to get anywhere, and now the situation is even worse. I fucking hate it. doesn't help that half of those people are yugi players
>>94187455Johnny come lately doesnt understand why sol ring is an exception, color me shocked.
>want to build reanimator with pic related>almost every fucking reanimation card costs 5 mana>all the good ones are sold out at LGS and my favorite retailerI hate that this mechanic is so one-note. I've never had a problem building enchantment or equipment decks
>>94187835don't be a baby, anon. nobody is forcing you to play against her. just decline : )
>>94187853It is very rare for them to take into account typing when doing these "skin" type cards.
if I bring ~10 1-2cmc mana dorks and have another one in the command zone, should I just skip 4cmc spells?
>>94187708You can condense a lot of these and have an actual bingo card>community mention>muh players Same thing
>>94187869>all the good ones are sold out at LGS and my favorite retailerThe worst part about building decks for me is having to buy from random shops on TCG and waiting 3 fucking weeks for the cards to show up in the mail. Time for you to enjoy the same bullshit
>>94187865the reason is "bad design that we cannot backtrack from anymore"
>>94187825Our lgs closed because one half of the owners was a huge fat obnoxious loudmouthed redditor who refused to man the register if anyone was playing warhammer with him (which was constantly) and would groan loudly on the off chance he had no excuse not to help.
>>94187902The real reason is that highlander is intended to be a high variance format and sol ring is a good facilitator of variance. If players optimize the variance out of edh that's their problem and are unironically playing the format wrong which is not the RCs problem.
>>94187792>>94187774the cradle is the real deal and cost me most of my trade binder it's my favourite deck and one day i will finish foiling it
>>94187835Banning cards just because they're "obnoxious" is retarded. You can ban hundreds of commanders with that reasoning. Better to keep the banlist light.
>>94187105This is so sad because it's very obvious how shit you are at the game lmao.
>>94187933>highlander is intended to be a high variance formatso you play nothing but inconsistent decks for "high variance"?
>>94187933>playing the format wrongNo? They chose the variance they wanted and stuck there lol. I hate bad narcissists
>>94187064>Boone in ceaser deckYeah, no. Honestly if did have done 4 decks per game and I think they could do it great but shoving related characters into the same decks under the leadership of Caesare, Mothman, Dogmeat, and that one lady everyone forgets is a flavor fail. But off the top of my head the cards themselves aside from Nick Valentine who shouldn't care about artifacts dying but machines as he's a synth detective who works for and investigates human murders.
>>94187902the reason is "we don't want to ban like 70 of our products."
>>94187955Based.
if I play tall green, should I just skip stuff like guardian project and move directly to "power matters" draw?
>got like $7k from my tax returns>going to spend $4.5k on an engagement ring for my gf>the rest is for meI want to buy a magic card in like the $500-$700 range, anyone got any good suggestions of obscure or exotic foils? I'd love a chains or a tabernacle but those are out of my price range. I run a monoblue artifacts deck and a weird monoblack abomination sort of thing.
>>94187046Coalition victory should never be unbanned, since there are a bunch of way to turn any land into every basic type. There are even land cards that count as every land typeSame for creatures, even colorless creatures like Transguild Courier
>>94188119>I want to buy a magic card in like the $500-$700 rangeWhy? Aside from just wanting to spend money because you can. You could build a good deck for 500-700.I would never suggest buying a 500 dollar card. Just fucking proxy.
>>94188119>>94188125Don't listen to that proxigger, buy a dual land or a foil Metalworker or something.
>>94188138Buy a cool 500 dollar deck box instead. At least people will think you are cool at the LGS
>>94188125I like to collect things. I have most normal cards you could want in my decks already and I dont need anymore decks for my purposes until the tier list drops. But I do have a fetish for rare and exotic cardboard, and if I'm buying my gf a big useless rock, I should at least get some neat cardboard. Like I'm picking up a power artifact seperate from this whole schtick, but a foil grim monolith, a guru land, or a timetwister is out of my budget. I was thinking maybe a foil japanese k4rn, which is kind of a waste since I already have a regular japanese k4rn and a normal one, but I'm open for suggestions.
>>94188158>I am bad with moneyGot it.If you HAVE to spend money like that on a card then get a signed card.
>>94188138I think most duals in good condition are out of that pricerange, but I may be thinking beta prices. Metalworker is a great suggestion though!>>94188142What cool deck boxes exist? I use a shitty old bfz fatpack.
>People who want to join wizards official "commander panel" are being given contracts with non-disparagement clauses that last for life, even after the contract endsShit sure is lookin good at the start of WOTC owned commander. Everything's comin up Millhouse
>>94188164If the guy has enough disposable income to buy all that shit and a 5k engagement ring then he clearly is better with money than you.
>>94188164I have this in my binder from years ago. What cool signed cards are even out there? A rob alexander basic is probably only a couple bucks, maybe a tedin signed vault would be cool but I've never really bought signed cards before.
>>94188109Skip? Doesnt sound very wise at allMix them? Sure.To make a long point short, it's better to have more tools in hand before your tall piece lands, than after.
>>94188186This is some crazy projection
If only elon bought wotc over twitter
>>94188252It would be bankrupt now
>>94188257Still better
>>94188119Hear me out. Proxy the card and buy 2 boxes of mystery booster 2. Well worth it.
>>94188267
>>94188119Congratulations on your upcoming engagement anon. Any idea on what kind of ring you want to buy?
In my experience, most players take the EDH banlist pretty seriously, but how about cards like pic related that weren't banned for gameplay reasons? Do any of you have experience with playing with any of them with strangers or asking people if they mind you running them?
>>94188195well, I packed the deck with some combat damage draw since my deck is pretty much all trample no brakes. I also like to do it fast and early, so using my 4 drop for a draw enchantment feels that does nothing for a turn just feels kinda sticky.in other news, how broken is shadow in the warp?
>>94186126It's very good. It allows you to machine gun any permanent. Repeatable Vindicate.
>>94188281Nah I dont gamble.>>94188317Thanks anon! We just got a house and hopefully a kid will be on the horizon. She wants a rose gold ring, I was going to keep it simple and one diamond about 1ct. She says she wants leaves or celtic knots or some shit, but I'm just ignoring that, I know I have good taste.
>>94188398Nobody in their right mind will associate a magic card with racism.
>>94188398I can't see anyone caring except for leftoid looney troons
>>94188119>going to spend $4.5k on an engagement ring for my gf>could tour several countries with your gf and have experiences that last a lifetime>could go on a good cruise, could dine out together every night for the entire year>instead I will buy her this hunk of metal (not even the wedding ring)LOL do normgroids really?
>>94188439>Nah I dont gamble>Instead, I gamble on pieces of cardboard retaining value while also wasting even more on worthless jewelryfunny and sad world we live in
>>941859752 maybe 3.If Serra Ascendant was a commander I would be spooked and call it a 4.
>>94187545maybe I'll build her as a 5c enchantment deck with some blink strategy...no rooms though, most of them suck ass
>>94188439Gamble? Its the best draft experience possible. I got to doomsday into a thassas oracle and play with the power 9
>>94188439>I'm just going to ignore what my wife wantsClassic beginner's mistake
>>94188616>Setting the precedent for being a doormatRookie mistake
>>94188439anon the ring is cute but listen to your wifeand also gamble
>>94187888I tried to separate things more specific so there are more varied cards
>>94188643You do what she wants for her stuff, and make the decisions elsewhere. It's a tightrope. If you fuck up, for instance, the ring she will be salty about it FOREVER.
>>94188439A tasteful laurel pattern typically isn't that much extra to add.
>>94188695Doormat confirmed.Also don't marry children
>>94188651>>94188616Nah she wants something nice thats rose gold. She wants to show it to her friends so they get jealous and to take pictures to brag online. What she doesnt want is overcomplicated fiddley nonsense that she thinks she wants after getting decision paralysis looking at 2000 rings online, like celtic knots and leaves or whatever. Normal woman stuff, I'm a pro at this point, I know what she wants and have been shopping for over a year.>>94188508Bruh the ring and my cardboard are worthless once purchased because I'm never selling either of them in the first place. There is no gamble here.>>94188495Oh we're going to do that too. I want to go to germany next year for oktoberfest, and she wants to go to mexico next year once we put some money down on the house. Pretty sure wedding bands are just basic rings that you wear with the engagement ring, but correct me if I'm wrong. I asked my family and whatnot.
>>94188721Really? She couldnt find any good examples to show me, any suggestions o where to look?
>>94188125Seething poorfag>>94188495Seething incel
>>94188508>buy thing to own with no intention of selling it>This is gamblingDamn this engaged dude cause a ton of seethe
>>94188758Based. Dont listen to the other anon. Knowing what your partner wants more than they do is a good sign in a relationship.
>>94188758Yes weddings bands are generally basic daily reminders and the engagement ring is extravagant, comparatively
>>94188758>Pretty sure wedding bands are just basic rings that you wear with the engagement ring, but correct me if I'm wrong.I've never heard of this before but the mores regarding wedding rings vary wildly with culture.You'd be better off asking her family than your family since her views on the matter are going to be shaped by them.
>>94188780This is the ring I gave to my fiancé. It has a laurel pattern although might be a little hard to see with this pic quality. I just asked the jeweler about filigree and he showed me some examples of what he could do to a band and told me the options, and then I settled on a laurel pattern. If you buy it off the shelf it might be harder to find something that fits your vision though. Are you planning on having it made from scratch?
>>94188175Etsy has some pretty cool handmade ones. Some pretty impressive woodwork deck boxes/other MTG related stuff
>>94185851Id shit myself if we got an Omega card.Even harder if its the FF7 version
>>94188826Good job anon, I wasnt planning on having it made from scratch, but I dont really know what I'm doing or how long that would take. I just need to see it in person so that I can get a good grasp of what I'm getting. The ring I posted is lab grown from a large retailer in my country (leafland) and comes with good insurance.>>94188816This is what I thought, good to know.>>94188818Oh, fair enough. Her parents are german and english, but like 3rd gen canadian. Blue collar smalltown white folk. I think they'll just be happy I'm putting a ring on it.>>94188810That's what I figured, thanks anon.>>94188835Neat I'll take a look, I can definitely up my box game. Maybe I'll get the metal worker and a sick ass box. Do they come in standard sizes?
>>94188877Im the Etsy anon and yea, they have a wide variety of sizes and designs. Id actually suggest all you fags check it out, there's some pretty cool stuff there you cant get anywhere else
>>94188695>Forever salty about a ringI mean there are for sure such women but if you ended with such one in the first place, you definitely are a doormat. For mine I just gave her a 100 buck silver ring with zirconia stone and she was happy just as much as she would be with a 1k ring.
>>94185748>Death raceHate it, I dislike vehicles already and some wacky races death race sounds like a Thunder Junction tier idea doomed to have Thunder Junction tier execution.>TarkirTarkir's pretty great, shame about the dragons though. The Jeskai were mentioned in MH3 so hopefully we'll see a Khan/traditionalist rebellion of the three color wedges against their shitty dragon overlords.>return to LorwynI'm afraid they'll add humans. Kithkin, elves, and Faeries are confirmed but I haven't seen elementals or scarecrows confirmed and the Kamigawa Neon Dynasty comparison doesn't make me hopeful. Kamigawa had great flavor because it was such an alien world but Neon Dynasty made it too contemporary/popculture. I did like the lore about Boseiju, the tree refusing to bend or break and growing to to eclipse the skyscrappers around it, no idea what was going on in the story but I would've liked to see a cyberpunk versus classic kamigawa conflict>return to StrixhavenLorehold is nice, Silverquill is okay, but Witherbloom, Prismari, and Quandrix feel too much like their Ravnican counterparts. I think a monk/religion/natural philosopher type bent would've been better for an alternate take on U/G. The pests/token focus and Blex are pretty nice from Witherbloom and Dina is cute but they have some odd cards Woe-Eater and they still have zombies and druids when I think they shouldn't have either. Although I have no idea what sort of flavor would have fit for an alternate BR, you'd probably have to start from the mechanical ends being different take of BR then build the flavor from there.Overall Strixhaven is meh, too popculture, not a fan of fantasy school setting, and it has missed potential. But I don't hate it, overall I think each of the schools needed more time devoted but that's a complaint I also have for Bloomburrow, Duskmourn, and March of the Machines.
>>94188966>guy with an Etsy postingbut I actually agree
>>94189019>Hate it, I dislike vehicles already and some wacky races death race sounds like a Thunder Junction tier idea doomed to have Thunder Junction tier execution.Execution is always separate from concept. Not that I have high expectations of WOTC to execute anything correctly, its just important to realize that something can be dumb but executed brilliantly
>>94189069Any thoughts how they can make vehicles actually interesting? Ive never ran into a single one played at various LGS, and people here seem to dislike them too, but they hate everything so that only goes so far. More Animate Artifact type effects?
>>94189130Vehicles are already interesting: they're good for tapping creatures and a lot of opponents are hesitant to block them because they're usually overstat and killing one doesn't generally disfigure one's board state. If you think they're boring you should build picrel as Vehicles.dec
>>94189142Fair enough. Since you have experience with em, what would you like to see as the new play mechanic in the Deathrace set for vehicles?
>>94188398in my experience most people just laugh and think invoke prejudice is a funny card i also doubt many people even know its banned
>>94189162Accelerate X - Pay X mana as an additional cost. If you do, reveal cards off the top of your library until you reveal X land cards. Put one onto the battlefield tapped and the rest into your hand, and put a haste counter on this vehicle.Pileup - When this artifact becomes tapped, if it isn't a creature, you may sacrifice it. If you do, deal damage to target artifact equal to its mana value.
>>94186444She's a lot of fun, I started playing her after I stopped being retarded and realized YOU get the counter instead of her
>>94189214Pileup should read "deal damage to target artifact creature equal to its mana value or destroy target artifact with mana value equal to or less than this artifact"
>>94188758>Bruh the ring and my cardboard are worthless once purchasedas worthless as gambling, yes>>94188808>buy useless thing>this is better than gamblinglmao
>>94189172Do they still think it's funny once it hits the board and stops them from casting creatures
>>94189306some do some dont
>>94189306>casting creatures>2000 + 20 + 4
>>94185829Do we have any idea when it may be coming?
>>94189069That's why I separated Thunder Junction into idea and execution. But honestly I was being too harsh on Thunder Junction, a western themed set isn't that bad of an idea but it had terrible execution, those stupid wand swords things are also silly looking, just give them guns. Wizards was already moving away from classic fantasy by doing a Western set and there's no reason to just make them generic flintlock/blackpower/whatever type guns when you add in magic.Vehicles is more of a gut response, Kaldesh block was when I came back to magic after a break and it left a terrible impression, I did like the mechs from KND but they could have been done better by having something like Kaiju Spirits to fight against. They just felt like they were there and didn't add much on the whole but I'm sure they could be done well.>>94189142>>94189214Pretty interesting recommendation and ideas. I might trying building it, maybe it'll make me like vehicles more.>>94185829Me too Anon, but honestly I think it's a shame it came in the form of the crossover. I just wished we got normal non-ip versions of the crossover cards. It would've made me dislike universes beyond less if they came as just themed alt arts, like if the Hobbit/LoTR came out at the same time as return to Lowryn they could've just reskinned Kithin both new and old.That said I do like some of the unquie card we have gotten, shame about the crossover though.
It would be nice if they actually reprinted all the banned for racism cards as completely new cards so we could get their abilities back. I actually want to play invoke prejudice just because i love tax abilities
>>94189504Then just play it bro. Only absolute troglodytes are going to have an issue with it.
>>94189534nta but if I start playing banned cards so will my opponents and I'm not willing to play against all that shit
>>94185762It\s extremely good at making other players hate your guts since turn -1. Just saying that you play this fucker will make you enemy number one.Slap any good taxes, counters, drawing cards etc into your deck, don't think about strategy just make sure that every card will make your opponents' lives harder. Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study are two most obvious must play cards.
>>94189589It's not banned for legitimate gameplay reasons though. The reasoning is literally "muh raycism".
>>94189589*slams down my stone throwing devils in response to invoke prejudice*
>>94189646I have just the response for that
>>94189675
>>94189624Besides invoke and the Gypsy one they really dont have any good reason. Jihad and crusade are perfectly reasonable names and their abilities are usable. Stone throwing devils being banned is dumb since no one thought that way until they banned it.
>>94189720Israelis did, and Israelis are important part of card game market. Or any market really.
>>94189214Accelerate is retardedly pushed
>>94189624our group has this "no house rules" mentality because it opens a can of worms for everyone to start adding stupid shit which will eventually be too complicated to keep track of. for example this one guy has been pestering us for a while to change rules on cards and whatnot and we decline every time so it would be a rules for thee and not for me situation
>>94189825Thats more of something for your group. Rule 0 is generally fine
>>94189833I know I'm cucked but if the cost of me not seeing dockside and jew lot is to not play one stax card that I can replace with a similiar effect anyway then so be it
>>94189720>Stone throwing devils being banned is dumb since no one thought that way until they banned it.Reminds me of a few years back the paint company I work for changed a bunch of color names to be “more culturally appropriate.” So they changed any color with the word Colonial (Colonial White, Colonial Blue) to something more generic. They changed the names of anything with a race or culture like Navajo Red, Indian Muslin, China White. But then they also changed a shade of brown called “Monkey Madness” which was the funniest thing they could have done by even calling attention to it.
>tfw I'll be out of 67€ in about 5 minutes
>>94189646that card seems like a draft bomb, 1/1 with first strike for 1 black mana seems stupid strong for the time.
>See a card for a good price>Show other cards on wishlist from seller>Open up new tabs for each one>See that the other cards are being sold for double the trend price>Close all tabs
>>94188398I played this back in 2013 maybe 2014 had it in Lu Xun, most players just groaned about the effect, never had anyone bitch about the art. did have a krenko player rage quit calling it an "anti edh card"really miss the simpler times
>>94189933>onlywhat you get anon?
>>94190334>what you get anon?an expensive ride to hosed city. population: me.
>>94190358If that was a box at least they're all playables
>>94190358is The Tale of Tamiyo good? I feel like it is and you should reliably draw two or three cards off it but idk
>>94190358hey, that's me!
>>94185748How to make curse deck work, feels like it's too slow and not enough action or protection in early game. I'm using Lynde. Any tips? Feels like I'm targeted all the time because people just want me to lose. Then they get mad someone else winning than they.
>>94189900I hate to make the "tHeRe tHe rEaL rAcIsTs" argument but to an extent its true. They saw the blm riots and went, "hey that reminds me of stone throwing devils"
Should I just play Alania instead?
>>94190432Play either Eriette instead. Opulence is the only decent red curse anyway, with WB you have auras to stop heavy hitters going your way, and with WUB you can even control their creatures and have Blue interaction.
>>94187434Yep, wotc saw that players split EDH into 2 formats and instead of supporting those 2 or merging them into 1, they decided to make another 2 to sell more cards. You can clearly tell they don't know wtf they're doing. The banlist is now going to be managed by sales and people bitching on twitter.
>>94190013It's weird isn't it? Own or two good deals and then everything else is weirdly over priced. The owns that really annoy me are the sellers that sell on average decently but refuse to sell any cars for less than seventy five or fifty cents.
>>94190508They're significantly different.
>>94190508Im tempted to. Whats the coolest stuff to do with her
>>94188401If you drop it early, it really fucks with people over the course of the game I've found
>>94190358Seems to me you just about broke even. Not sure what is foil on the picture.
>>94188401I've seen games where if did the majority of the damage. It's a pretty powerful card.
should I keep him in my naya haste deck or will he generate too much salt?
>>94190685if your opponents don't always have it then holy craw
>>94185771How do you think he smells?
>>94190714depends which crease you sniiff
>>94190699>if your opponents don't always have ityesterday was fun>bloomburrow bat friend plays t1 Serra Ascendant >drop Managorger Hydra t2 myself>keep attacking each other while other 2 friends are mana screwed and just drop useless small shit that buffs my hydra>drop orfeo and double hydra damage>not a single removal in sight>barely hold it together against bat friend by dropping an Essence Harvest on my buffed hydra>friend plays Sunbond on SA>2 turns later, my turn, Serra is up to 18 counters, hydra up to 14 (+orfeo double power)>friend has ~44 life left, I'm down to 20 or less>topdeck chandra's ignition>attack with 28 trample, then ignite the table>everyone scoops
>>94190714He smells like Ugin's cum.
>>94190801grim, truly
>>94191226>Storm on literally any instant or sorcery>Flying, vigilance 3/4 for 4 mana>Which means extra combat spells work with herNadu is back!
>>94191226>Kalamax but betterman what the fuck
>>94191276You're fucking insane if you think she's anywhere near as good as Nadu.
These are going to be expensive as fuck
>>94191292I was being a bit hyperbolic since Nadu goes off with practically nothing. But putting the infamously broken keyword on such a cheap creature seems pretty broken as well.
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>>94191305nta but to me storm just seems like a worse narset
>>94191305nadu was only notable because it was printed into a format with an actual competitive scene
>>94191303Non-foil: $39.99 USD Rainbow foil: $49.99 USDAlso the full images are out, you dont need to post these shitty phone photos
I might sincerely just take a year off magic and come back after all the marvel shit is done
>>941913054 mana in 3 colors is not insignificant in a Storm deck and she has to hit face to be anything more than a french vanilla.
>>94191325They're out? When do preorders open then?
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>>941913432024-11-04limited supply
>>94191335wait what. they will be gone after a year?
>>94191343The images are out, not the cards>The Superdrop releases on November 4, 2024.
>>94191335Wotc will just make the game even worse later. lol
>>94191340Hitting face with a flyer usually isn't that hard if you don't care whose face to hit.
>>94191358afaik all the marvel sets are slated for 2025
>>94191365True but without the flying she'd be terrible
>>94191357>LimitedAh there it is. I wont bother with this one Im sure the bots will be there .000001 seconds ahead
>>94191311My god that's broken, especially since she has built-in evasion.Question though: would a card that already has storm get anouther instance of storm?
>>94191226>Storm on anything>In greenAbsolutely insane, at least she doesn't have haste but that statline is too way too big for that effect, size her down to a 3/3 and at least she dies to bolt. But I can easily see this storming off of a cascade or ramp spell and vomiting your entire deck onto the board in short order.
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>>94191357Lame. I would have thought Marvel would try to force it into as many hands as possible and leave it open.
>>94191311>another berserk printingnice, still wish the original art was a bit cheaper though
>>94191382Yeah but she has flying so your entire point is kind of retarded? "Nadu would be nothing special if it would be 2/2 vanilla for 2!" kind of craptalk.
