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>>94187684Yeah, no forced shutdowns for overheating, even on the highest difficulty
Clanners!!!! Sound off!!!!
>>94187698The Toejam & Earl games accurately reflect a Mechwarrior's reaction to their autocannon jamming.
For that Anon in the last thread wondering about what tanks the MoC has, here's the RAT from brush wars. As always there is some weirdness, like the out of production von luckner being more common than manticores despite them having a manticore factory.
>>94187775They are only ecm jammed unfortunately
>>94187669Large Lasers don't suck, they just get overshadowed by PPCs because people want that 10 damage for a potential can opener.
>>94187720Sea Fox standing by.
>>94187855large lasers absolutely do suck outside of 3025. They get outcompeted hard by ERMLs, ERLLs, light ppcs, Snub ppcs and many other weapons, they don't have a minimum range but they are fairly hot, poor range outside of 3025 (can't compete with real long range options like LRMS/PPCS/ATMS.
To answer the anon in the last thread, there are armor "pods" you can add to your mechs to increase their overall armor. I modded a vulture by converting it into a gauss carrier and used the remaining tonnage to get armor. That tripled my torso armor which definitely helps as the ai loves to core you out.
Does someno have the meme of focht and the clans? The one that he promises a fair fight against clans, and the fair fight shows th hellish tukayid map pack.
>Mechs can only mount so much armor no matter how much tonnage you have left over.
>>94188009Yes, you cant get more than ~19 tons of regular armor on a 100 ton mech
Threadly reminder that Snord should have been a Goliath Scorpion bloodname
>>94187720Snow Raven, standing by
>>94188196Threadly reminder that Snord should have been Sneed
>>94187720Clan Coyote on patrol.
>>94188078That's just dumb even if it's for game balance.
>>94188196Wylie should have been a Coyote bloodname.
Why are 2 of the SRM launchers on the Savage Wolf rear facing?
>>94188269Disrespectful poop missiles.
>>94188269heat
>>94188269For when Fire Moths try getting behind you.
>>94188386So you can fire even more missed shots against them?
>>94188406They're Streak SRMs
>>94188241I'm sad that they completely forgot about Wiley's Coyotes.
>>94187720The Kindraa is ready for battle!
>>94187838Interesting. The earlier books somewhat indicates that the LRM and SRM carrier were the "hot new shit" being given to better regiments, but this makes them look more like bread and butter.
>>94188421They brought them back under a less legally iffy name for Jihad, but I don't think there was ever a resolution for them. They either died out for working with wobbies or fucked off back to the Samoyedic Colonies to kill the wobbies holding them hostage.
>>94188445Based thigh enjoyer.
>>94188105Their navy isn't infinite and you need ground force to capture and held territory.Lance Scarinci seems like actually knowing how to use them
>>94187001You might have taken a class but you have never worked a day in the industry if you think it’s a question of the devs not wanting to optimize more. Nobody making the thing wants to release a buggy or poorly optimized game. It will be the suits above them that make that kind of call.
>>94188445>>94188554gentlemen of taste
>>94187686anybody know what this is? there was a mixup in postage so i got 2 of these things instead of my 4 hunchies
>>94188689Bane 3, has 8x LRM-15s
>>94188689Bane maybe?
>>94188689That's the best missle boat in the game friend.
>>94187899ERLLs aren't exactly great either. At least in DHS era you can run 2x LLs and some ballistics or missiles on required 10 DHS.
>>94188689The old illustration looks so fucking goofy
>>94188860You can blame the fucking Egyptians for that
>>94188860>>94188909The artist is American as far as I can tell.
>>94188935I think he's talking about Harmony Gold
>>94188825better off just adding 2 heatsinks and using ERLL
Mechwarrior 5 Clans artbook and readout screenshots are on the bgbooru if anyone wants to take a look.
>>94188951Now you're at 12 tons to do 16 damage.
>>94189008Works fine for the Atlas II, or you can just take one and a lrm like the grim reaper does
>>94188997Where's the renders of Mia getting gangbanged by the rest of the sibko? You look at her and you know she's down for it.
>>94188386They could've just put the rear-mounted SRMs in the arms so you could still flip to shoot them backwards AND use them like an actually good weapon with everything now being front-facing, but apparently that was out of the question.
>be clan sea fox out at sea>see thisWhat do?
>>94188860Remember the OG design?
>>941888252x LL, 1x AC/10 would be a solid punch.
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>Atlas 3 is supposed to be start of the art>Its just a regular Atlas with a different load out you can shove onto any Atlas.How do we make mechs distinct? Tired of hearing this mech or that mexh is supposed to be amazing but nothing backs it up on the tabletop. They are all the same!
Thoughts on the ANH-1X Annihilator? It seems pretty brutal, throwing out 40 damage per turn at PPC ranges without having to worry about heat.
>>94189630Given the slow speed, more range does seem to be the way to go with Annies, haven't tried that one in particular.
>>94189630once you use an annihilator in game a few times you realise being able to generate no TMM and having absolutely no mobility is pretty awful. You do save a bit on BV but not enough. They are usuable but not amazingYou could take a ANH-5W with 4 gauss for 2500 or a hellstar or crucible for 3k. Once XL engines show up the anihilators tonnage for weapons is not that insane either. A few of the early ones are quite a way from max armor too.>>94189577>Its just a regular Atlas with a different load out you can shove onto any Atlasnobody plays with customs, literally nobody, so actually you can't. And the non command atlas III is an amazing mech, about as potent as a 3/5 can be>>94189522Unironically outgunned by something with like 5 medium lasers, which is like 1/5th of the tonnage>>94189630You'd be better off with the one with 3 gauss and a ppc that also doesn't have to worry about heat
>>94189416We're gonna need a bigger boat...
>>94189750>Unironically outgunned by something with like 5 medium lasers, which is like 1/5th of the tonnage25 vs 26, and hitting 5s instead of 8s and 10, at an entire range band shorter. Mlas spam only works for fast mobile mechs that can control the range of engagemen t and have no tonnage for long range weapons. That's why the mlas crusader is mediocre. If you want a bunch of 5 damage hits, might as well take a RAC/5 for longer range and plenty of leftover heat for an ERPPC or something.
>>94189416Change entire identity.
>>94189861with all that saved tonnage you can afford a bigger engine. there's about a million better options than 2LL and ac10 even for the same tonnage, like a gauss + literally anything else
>>94189750>nironically outgunned by something with like 5 medium lasers,>stays at 10 hexes away in your path
>>94189896>mech with 20 tons of weapons can stay away from mech with 5 tons of weapons
>>941898672x LL and an AC/10 is almost the same BV as a gauss rifle.
>>94189914If you win initiative, yeah, you can. The mlas boat is depending on running to, reasonably, within 6 hexes, preferably 3. The larger weapons will be able to begin engaging with better numbers sooner. You also have to consider that mlas spam spreads damage more, and is less able to deliver decisive damage.
>>94187720The Scorpion is ready to strike.
Which house has the best mech academy?
>>94188997Thank-you!
>>94190027We are less ready than previously supposed
>>94190033Everyone knows who has that.
>>94190033Marik ones have more flavour The Regulan and Orloff ones especially
>>94188666>>94188554>>94188445More like Thigh-her Mandrill ammirite hahahahaha....I'll let myself out. >>94187720Before I go though why does BTG like such literally-who clans?
Are the Azami still semi-autonomous under the Dragon?Was working on a merc command of Arkab origin and wanted to get some details straight.And I didn’t find anything on Sarna, but I know it’s kinda all over the place in terms of accuracy; has the Combine built an Azami-themed mech yet?Figure I’d ask since so many new ones with factional themes have popped up in the last few years.
>>94190193I believe the Azami are still semi-autonomous. Or rather, returned to autonomy. A lot of Azami ended up in the RotS. But what's weird to note is that many Azami moved out to the Periphery too (where they were murdered by the Black Dragon, but still). I think there is still some tension over where to deploy the Arkab legions.There are no Azami themed mechs, no. The closest thing would actually be anything Star League, particularly faster lights and mediums like the Hussar. The Azami core worlds in Dieron are sitting on a lot of old Star League stuff, and they're noted for carefully maintaining old mechs. In the CM the rules let them take much more SL stuff than other Drac regiments.
>>94189630>>94189639>>94189750I prefer the -2A since you get more out of your Pulse Lasers when they're Mediums, otherwise I'd probably downgrade to the -1A for Introtech.
>>94190309>jumps behind you>crits you out with two CERML shots to the rear armornothing personell kid
>>94190179>why does BTG like such literally-who clans?I didn't realize it was a popularity contest. I just like the Fire Mandrills because they remind me of saiyans.
>>94190367"The enemy can not jump behind you if there is already an Urbanmech standing there!"
>>94187720>ClannersSounds tasty
>>94187720I am guided by visions. Even if they lead me to terrible places.
>>94190033I kinda want a degree from space DARPAthey'll bring NAIS back by the way? like the fedsuns where still doing the MUSE projects after it got blake'd, nothing's really stopping them from just building a new institute
>>94190622its called RISC
>>94190375you are autistic infighting chimps, but you are our brothers
>>94187720Hello fellow Clanners. Rate my lance?I picked these entirely off of aesthetic, the theme being "silly little guys with handguns and jetpacks". I have a Stinger and a Wasp in the same scheme. :3>>94187743I agree with your assessment of the AC5 & LLs. I'd also mention that 5s aren't terrible for grogtech on PPC boats, MAD-3R comes to mind. Yeah- it'd be better to stack the AC5's tonnage into medium lasers but- if the mech does it's job and stays at range- the 5 is fine. I'd add another point wrt: LLs tho. 8+(at least 4 damage)=12. So hitting head with a LL is almost just as effective as an AC10, assuming you're fishing with 4+ dmg weapons and not SRMs.do u want to get married? you never responded last time I asked. :<
>>94190778This is a Free Worlds on the Capellan Border lance, likely nearer the core because of the Gladiator. So, Zion Province IMO.
>>94190309>IS MPLS on a 2/3
>>94190818Hey, four of them will tell any brawlers not to tempt you, keeping them in LBX-10 range!
>>94190778AC/10 is way better than a LLfor a head hit because it crits.
>>94187720No knowledge is hidden from Clan Goliath Scorpion
>>94190179>Before I go though why does BTG like such literally-who clans?i painted in Coyote colours because they seemed the easiest.
>>94190375>>94190375What Kindraa(s) are you?
>>94190179For me I personally love the idea of psychotropic drug taking space seekers of lost knowledge as a clan vs the more generic reasoning of other clans. Doesn't hurt that they also have a cool paint scheme or two (I also like Scorpions more than picking wolfs, bears, or birds)
>>94190179>why does BTG like such literally-who clans?Because we are nothing if not contrarian. Thing popular = thing bad.
>>94190778>do u wantI would, but I'm just not into feminine qualities. Put on some weight and get a gut, grow some body hair, and lose that femboy hygiene so you look and smell like a real man, and I'd be down for a relationship. As long as you look like a woman, though, I just can't. As a namefag, I'm far too gay to go for the likes of you.
>>94191046tl;dr we're not ALL gigantic faggots, just mostly regular faggots.
>>94191094>Is in an entirely different plane above all the other factions.
>>94191094>no Butte HoldeIt's manure.
>>94190817The Gladiator is exclusively Kuritan, afaik. Explain yourself. I hate Capellans with every fiber of my being, and I refuse to even imagine playing a game of CBT that even so much as mentions that degenerate filth.>>94190889>almost just as effective>>94191075Ah, sorry~ that makes sense. I understand. I too yearn for a hairy dadbod partner with overwhelming manstink. A real Man's Man. A Manly Man for Men.
>>94190778>Rate my lance?Quite good! I like the color scheme, and you did a great job with the red and white so close together. Did you use masking tape? Is the black on the leftmost from an ink or wash, or did you outline with a very fine brush?Please tell me that those are third party TLs and I'm not so clueless that I can't recognize any of them as normal models.
>>94191094kinda wanna see a cleaned up version, if only so the text wasn't a soup and more bullying could be added
>>94191369>The Gladiator is exclusively Kuritan, afaikYou know wrong. It was manufactured by half a dozen manufacturers during the Star League, including one in the Hegemony.It was by far the most common in the Combine, but not exclusive.
>>94190295>preserved Star League mechs That’s a neat detail I wonder how ComStar felt about it
>>94191094So what faction am I supposed to play where people won't shit on me for my choice?
60t is the lowest weight you can get an AC/10 and 2x LL on a 4/6 with DHS and a standard engine.
>>94191474None. Literally impossible. People will always find something to dislike.Be an adult, pick what you like and just don't be a dick or defensive about it.
>>94190193yeah they're semi-autonomous, and had to fight for independence from the Stoners to rejoin the Dragon. we ran a campaign with anti-Stoner rebels-turned-mercs that were Azami. called them the Fedayeen Markab.
>>94191474Aurigans, Arano (no espinosa contrarian cop out), do not let the crying stop you, do not let the trannies stop you, do not even let CGL themselves get you downyour maverick nature and ability to pluck victory from the jaws of redditors will FORCE the weak willed anons to respect your choice
>>94191498With Endo and XL you can have a 4/6 45 tonner with an AC/10, 2 tons of ammo, 2x LL, heat neutral at a walk, for 1,015BV.
>>94191540Love these guys. Zealots that can match the Dragon's freak are probably terrifying to fight.
>>94191369>The Gladiator is exclusively Kuritan, afaik. Explain yourselfLyrans are the ones who make it again in the era his lance exists.He's got a Wraith (FWL), Icarus II (Retrotech FWL), Firebee (Retrotech CC), and a New Dallas Upgrade Gladiator (LC). That says core border FWL to me.
>>94191551
>>94191540>and had to fight for independence from the Stoners to rejoin the Dragon.Kind of. Al Nair got Dracced and the domes cracked in the 3130's because they were still loyal Stoners somehow.
>>94191605what'd I just say nigger
>>94191474All of them. Forever GM master race.
>>94191605>look at this tranny it makes the aurigans le bad!>lyran mercif anything now you can't play steiner lest the trannies live rent free in your head
>>94190635>republicgrossbut now davionman can scrounge up the pieces and put them towards NuNAIS
>>94191662Yeah nobody wants your kind here. Power tripping faggots. The sooner we move away from campaign play and make Battletech into the tournament game it's supposed to be, the sooner you fags lose your precious GMhood. Fuck you.
>>94191662I miss this time.
>>94191459Be the change you want to see in the world anon
>>94191727This bait is so tiresome.
>>94191727>look mommy I posted the AS bait againget a better hobby maybe, bait isn't supposed to be transparent and people telling you to fuck off isn't that amusing the 50th time surely?
>>94191728That's at least three different times, isn't it?
>>94191734I said kinda, I'm still a lazy faggotAlso I'd need to osmose more thread lore for better bants, someday maybe
>>94190991
>>94188216Not really? If there's specific space for armor there's a limit to how much you can put there. There's modular armor but that's like taping armor on the outside of locations.
So how baby eating evil we get to be in Clans? Are there mandatory destroy local populations missions where you hear the screams of children and their mothers begging for mercy?
>>94191837>giving a shit about squalling freebirths
>>94191765Close enough.
Campaign game tonight, my FWL Medium Lance against a Lyran assault lance. He's got a significant advantage in tonnage/BV, but due to map features I have air strikes, artillery, and minefields. Should be neat. Assuming I can get out of this wretched mood I woke up in.
>>94191873Humbling Lyran trash should do wonders for your mood.
>>94191868>katrina steiner is supposed to be 31 in that image
>>94191858But I want to hear their screams I incinerate their houses and laugh maniacally. Gun down fleeing civilian convoys as we step on the vehicles to kill what's left
>>94191892Good man. Get this guy a ticket to the next Grand Melee.
>>94191868>hey you know what human teenagers look like right?>yes boss, absolutely
>>94191802Ah, how respectable.
>>94191662Even GMs make faction choices. If your players are FedSun mercs, you are still making a choice in enemy to provide them.
>>94191617I wish I was smarter so I could better articulate why warcrimes in old battletech feel like natural escalations, and warcrimes in new battletech feel like lol-randumb violence fetishism.
>>94191474None (Pirates)
>>94187720Aff, lead!
>>94191959Mostly because of why it happened.>We want this planet because of this super awesome factory and stuff.>FIGHT TO THE DEATH, THEN GAS 'EM IF YOU LOSE>Hey this place has space dragons, and this other one makes space boomboxes.>FUCK YOUR WORLDS, SPECIFICALLY
I'm starting to get really bored of painting white, this is 7 coats on the treb, 5 on the archer, and 3 on the hunch.
>>94190193AI slop does not belong here
>>94191947>you are still making a choice in enemy to provide them.Capellans and Taurians early game for easy salvage, and Dracs later for REAR HONORABR CHARRENGE! You got a problem with that?
>>94192003
>>94191810>dosen't know what armor packages areYou should be able to put more on, at the cost of movement and pilot modifiers.
>>94192003>>94192036Get an airbrush?
>>94192042That's exactly what Modular armor is. Down to the movement and pilot mod penalties.
>>94189416Kill the invasive species and genetically modify your totem animal to be even more bullshit op after finding out who put those sharks there. >rename clan to.... Diamond Fox.
>>94192036The treb and Archer look fine.
>>94192036i like to paint gray than layer with white for that very reason shit takes forever other wise
>>94190033Unfortunately the snakes, because MUH BULLSHITTO AND HONORUBU duels matter more than good tactics or common sense.>real life>WW2 >Japan has vastly superior planes, good if psychopath pilots and morale >Americans come up with tactics to isolate and cut apart Japanese squadrons >Japanese quality drops as they lose pilots and aircraft as they don't rotate pilots to bring back experience
>>94191094>Taurians >reddit FAGGOT
>>94192056>experimental Jesus Christ BT is MORE retarded than 40k sometimes.
>>94192003Me but with yellow.
>>94191837We're in an era of writing without teeth, doubly so with Piranha Games.
>>94191892That's Capellans.Clanners don't care enough about Civilians to have such a strong reaction when killing them.
>>94192277Clanners just want civilians to be sorted into their proper boxes and do as they're told.
>>94192392>You are property of the Clan and must do as you are told within your social caste by the warrior leadership.>No we do not practice slavery, why would you think that?Clanner logic
>>94192414Clan society tends to lean heavily into semantics to handwave past logic. Yeah, a caste system isn't completely synonymous with outright slavery, but the with lack of mobility from caste to caste once you've tested being a thing then it may as well be.
>>94192468I really still can't believe a bunch of talented leaders, many who knew a sane society beforehand, heard the bullshit a brain damaged nepo baby began rattling off after one setback and only ONE (1) out of 20 actually said "the fuck is wrong with you" while the rest killed that one and went balls deep in space mongol larping
>>94191434what anon said, wraith (alpha strike box), firebee, icarus II, gladiator (proliferation cycle).I use a 0 or a 1 brush for details.
>>94192468That doesn't follow at all. The castes are huge and each have an wide variety of jobs within them. The slavery aspects are all the stuff where some meathead can bet you on the outcome of a wrestling match and suddenly you have to move to a different city.
>>94192489IIRC the whole story was more about desperation and them thinking it was just going to be a temporary measure while they get established. Then it just became the default and they interpreted the Kerensky ideal wrong.
>>94191467I am engaged by this statement.
>Phelan Kell betrayed the entire inner sphere for THIS.oof.
>>94187720Clan Jade Falcon ready to stringmrtwke!
>>94191605>Behemoth, you're taking the Locust out on this next contract. I want you to just charge strait at the enemy and melee them!>But, there's no armor on this Locust and just a single small laser.>Michelle Perez, you will walk up to the enemy and confront them head on, in an un-armored Locust.
>>94192509I'd say it's more the part where any warrior can summarily execute any non-warrior (Except maybe scientists) at any time for any or no reason. Top reasons for summary execution include but are not limited to being in possession of a weapon or personal wealth.
Is there a HQ PDF scan of FM:Comstar available? The one Snord has is all gumped up and cuts off half pages in some places.
>>94192575Fuck, I'm trying to type "strike" on my phone, then it glitches out on me.
>>94192609Your enhanced imaging implants are giving you trouble again, quiaff?
>>94192581I wanted to do that, but "she" was too useful as a Shad tank, so Dekker was sacrificed to the Blood God in "her" place,
>>94192609You sounded as coherent as Joe Biden.
Smoke Jaguar did nothing wrong Turtle Bay was asking for it
>>94192692>childish Clan throw a tantrum over yakuza bantzAnd THIS is supposed to be who restores the Star League? Be fucked, and Huntress along with you.
>>94192591>or personal wealth.I love that possessing physical money without special permission is prima facie proof that you're involved with the black market. I can't think of a better way to characterize the Clan economic system.
I've recently gotten into Battletech at a terribly old age and want to mostly paint because it's quite therapeutic. It's my first time painting minis.I'm currently painting (most of) the mechs in the beginner + AgoAC + IS striker lance boxes in Kurita colors. My idea is to get a company of mechs for each major IS faction and basically be cannon fodder for my local games store while I learn how to play.My only question is how heavy I should go with the wash paints. They're applying fairly inconsistently unless I really lather them on, which darken the models considerably. I was sponging excess away as directed by a youtube video, but it undid like 70%+ of the inking in places. I drybrushed after pic related on one model and a lot of definition was lost on some parts of the model.Current Kuritan wash is Agrax Earthshade on top of Evil Sunz Scarlet. My project after Kurita is Donegal Guards Steiner using Prussian Blue, but I don't know the required washes and highlights. The unit color compendium isn't really helpful with what types of paint to buy.
>>94192929Try pinwashing instead. Take the smallest brush or brush with the sharpest tip you have and just wash between panels where slathered wash would pool the most.Alternatively, a thin application of the underlying color over the inconsistent "coffee stains" left by the wash can fix a lot of problems. Then you can add a little highlight on the highest edges to make it pop.
>>94190179I just like Corvids, and Snow Raven makes some pretty fucking mean bastard mechs despite being the aerospace clan. They’ve also got some neat paint jobs.
>>94192609>on my phoneNot so fast, filthy clanner.
>>94192575Clan Jade Falcon is a favorite of mine. I'm a Steiner/FedCom loyalist but I've always respected the Jade Falcons as worthy opponents. The Way of the Clans is stupid, but the Jade Falcons have always held to them with honor.
>>94193019>the Jade Falcons have always held to them with *autism.and we love them for it
>>94192929I'd say things are going pretty well so far. If you apply a wash over a whole model, it's typical practice to go back in with a small brush and clean up the large flat panels with the base color. Then do a dry-bushing over the mini with a lighter version of the base color to highlight the edges. As a plus, the dry-brushing will help dull down that glossy sheen that Citadel washes leave.
>>94193033Is there really a difference?
>>94193033Neither of those things are true. It took less than five years in the inner sphere before they were doing false flag "pirate" attacks as part of a gambit to violate the results of a trial, which violates bedrock clan principles in half a dozen different ways.
>>94192129>Japan has vastly superior planesLMAO not even close. The A6M had good range and low altitude maneuverability, but sucked shit at literally everything else. The Ki-43 was the same and got seal clubbed by anything more advanced than the early hurricane and P-40.>don't rotate pilotsThey *couldn't* rotate pilots, because they were all dying.
I love when firefox crashes and I have to go through a several threads to get to the current /btg/ because the 'restore tabs' does not restore the tabs, it restores my tabs from a week ago. Never had this problem with MSE Are there any blakist rituals to fix this?
>>94193117Consult the sacred ritual text filed under "Install Brave browser". Praise Blake.
>>94191605are these just two random people with the same name?
>>94193103>corrupted that quickly by inner sphere tainta sad casualty, thankfully such taint will never again take such a model clan from us
>>94193117Maybe don't have 100 tabs open, Firefox has always worked on MY machine every time the power goes out.
Yo! probably offtopic But what would you anons recommend as some good BT vidya?modded or unmodded
>>94193137twitter is the real tranny, not sure why there's two handlesthey gave enough money to the HBS battletech kickstarter to reach the "write a hireable merc" tier and wrote a self insert
>>94193144MechwarriorMechwarrior 2Mechwarrior 3Mechwarrior 4
>>94193144Battletech (2018) with the BTA 3062 mod.
>>94193019>>94193033Fuck the Green Parakeets. Even their lorebook was SHIIIIIIT!
>>94193144Modded 5:mercs with all the dlc is pretty fun, haven't tried clans but people seem to like itMWO is crystal meth, incredibly harmful and I wouldn't recommend it but that high from a good match with you blinged out custom can be addictive and it has the best variety in mechs of any MW game I thinkHBS battletech is the closest to tabletop, slap some mods in and go wild but vanilla is fine tooclassic mechwarriors, of course
So the King Crabs are only useful as 'looks scary but not actually great and/or threatening' OpFor enemy?
>>94193163I like BTX better. BTA is...too much.
>>94193140No, I like them the way they are
>Bought some new mechs>Now I'm taking RS prints out from the clear file folder, adding new RSs and putting those back in (new) alphabetical orderAnyone else suffering from terminal autism?
>>94193201King Crabs are deadly...but they're also not too hard to defeat with a little tactics. They're good for that.
>>94193201>dosen't run a double gauss>or a x4 UAC-5>or a 2 UAC-20Are you really trying?
>>94193204Roguetech is too much. BTA is just right.
>>94193189Only one man would dare use such dishonorable slander against Clan Jade Falcon. ADAM STEINER!
>>94193201King Crab lives in the same realm as Urbanmech, but with much much much more armor. If you round a corner and there's a King Crab in your face, you're probably dead. If there's a King Crab across an empty field from you, it's not going to be doing much. Unless it's the 001. That's two gauss rifles on legs, it's going to fuck someone's day up no matter what.
>>94193201You can theoretically outrun all assaults with lighter assets but I think people underestimate how much they give up by refusing to ever get into close range.
>>94193239A twin gauss or a twin rac-5 is a utterly horrifying crab to deal with, and I honestly think that the King Crab should have these Design QuirksDistractingNarrow/Low Profile Stabilized WeaponBut all it has is Command.
>>94193239>XL engine says hi
>>94193316
>>94187720Jade Falcons standing by.Furthermore lupus delenda est
>>94193340Good luck doing anything with that before you get hit by multiple gauss shots. It's got plenty of armor.
>>94187720Diamond Sharks, Ghost Bears, and two flavors of Goliath Scorpions.>why yes, i print>how did you know
>>94193340At twin Gauss ranges the only thing you can really do it plink it with LRMs and ERLLs and hope he doesn't cap you.Or bumrush it with multiple Assaults and hope some of them get through.
>>94193346I fucking love this one, it’s the ammo bomb to end all ammo bombs. If this shit goes off you just instantly lose half the guns on both sides of the mech. They could’ve spread the ammo out but some developer was just really committed to making this record sheet as funny as fucking possible.
>>94192779>I love that possessing physical money without special permission is prima facie proof that you're involved with the black market. I can't think of a better way to characterize the Clan economic system.Wait, how the fuck do they have a recognize currency for explicitly illegal dealings?Wouldn't that instead be done with barterable commodities?
>>94193340found the retarded boomer grog who knows less about the game than someone who started playing a year ago, the MUH IS XL thing is pure retardation
>>94193435>Wait, how the fuck do they have a recognize currency for explicitly illegal dealings?They have a currency called the Kerensky for interclan trades, but it's way out of scope for individuals. I'm not sure they ever explained exactly how much one Kerensky is worth, but it enables them to trade in futures and charge quantifiable interest for loans, putting up some amount of Kerenskies to fund infrastructure and stuff.If anyone is caught carrying physical Kerenskies and isn't a merchant actively working inside of a clan bank, they're in mortal danger.
>>94193144both mechcommanders are good
>>94193435>>94193477They have some kind of ration credits or whatever that is in practice a currency, the vibe is supposed to be like in the real world if the cops catch you with a big wad of cash. Even in good places to live that can get you put on a surveillance list.
>>94193346>that ammo bomb That could be seen from fucking orbit.
>>94193477I knew about Kerenskies, but is Clanner Crime just as bassackwards that they are doing deals in what is basically government bonds?That'd be like using blocks of Cocaine as currency; Sure it can be done, but it'd be an instant red flag to authorities.>>94193502>They have some kind of ration credits or whatever that is in practice a currencySee this makes more sense, but only in the ultra authoritarian Clans would hoarding Food Stamps be considered possibly criminal.
>>94193531>but only in the ultra authoritarian Clans would hoarding Food Stamps be considered possibly criminal.Kerenskies are different from work credits. They're only used for inter-Clan commerce. You can hoard as many work credits as you want...except that they have an expiration date to prevent people from saving them up.
>>94193531
>>94193531It makes more sense if you know about how local clan governments work. Each caste has their own local councils that try to allocate resources and work loads and may be able to impose some local regulations. Internally to a clan, these are the entities that are trading Kerenskies the most, the technician council here may build up enough credits to invest Kerenskies into a Labor project there, which will eventually pay out to both areas allowing them more resources assuming the greater clan doesn't hoover it all up to fund more Warrior stuff.Knowing that, council leaders probably do all kinds of shady backroom deals that will get them shot if they're caught. They're the ones who are most able to divert goods for black market barter, and the ones who most need the big official currency.
>>94193547>You can hoard as many work credits as you want...except that they have an expiration date to prevent people from saving them up.Well this is why most modern Food Welfare programs like SNAP are done via a Credit model, not only does it make it easier to control what you can buy with it...>>94193559...It also makes it much harder to transfer.>>94193566>Knowing that, council leaders probably do all kinds of shady backroom deals that will get them shot if they're caught. They're the ones who are most able to divert goods for black market barter, and the ones who most need the big official currency.Well that is how the Sausage gets Made...
>>94187720Glory to Clan Jade Falcon!
Rate the 5k force
>>94193729A fellow blue gauss painter!
>>94187720Falcons here, Wolves suck.
Anyone else here playing in the SoCal Open tomorrow?
>>94187720Jade Falcon enjoyer here.
>>94193435The State has a currency that's for inter-Clan commerce, but it's high-denomination only. It'd be like gold doubloons today--one is worth about 600 dollars and normal people aren't even supposed to have them--but if you're selling shit under the table a gram of gold is a gram of gold.
A medium lance from House Marik engaged an assault lance from House Steiner today at a fortress. Forces were as follows>MarikWolverine 5M that replaced the SRM6 with two Streak 2s, Shadow Hawk that replaced the AC5 with a Blazer, Griffin whose pilot had the Sharpshooter ability, Maxim with platoon of foot infantry, 4x Thumper artillery strikes, Heavy Bombing and Heavy Strike air support assets, minefields>SteinerBanshee 3S, Stalker 4N, Warhammer 6L, Patton tank, all unmodified.The minefields were arranged along the two gaps in the central wall, leaving only a few safe channels in the middle in case I needed to move my mechs through. My mechs could jump, while the Lyrans couldn't, forcing them to deal with mines if they wanted to come into my side of the map.
>>94193926Turn 1 consisted entirely of maneuver - I sent my Maxim to deliver its infantry to the left side in hope of baiting the Warhammer into the minefields, bait it steadfastly refused the entire game, but it did end up out of position to support its fellows. Few shots hit in turn 2, but I called in both artillery and airstrikes, which hammered the Stalker, opening up sections of its rear armor.
>>94193932In turn 3 the Stalker offered its rear armor, a juicy target my Wolverine couldn't resist, and I ran it through one of the safe channels to take advantage, with the Maxim in support. I failed to score any game-turning crits, only disabling an SRM6, and the Banshee's fire plus the Stalker's flippy-arm mounted lasers put my Wolverine on the ground. The opposition then got excited, and ran his Banshee in for a stomp - directly into a minefield, which, combined with earlier damage, opened up both his legs and inflicted a leg actuator crit.
>>94193941I forgot to get a picture, but in the following turn the Maxim managed to stay behind the Stalker, punching SRMs through its rear armor and scording a crit each on its engine and gyro, putting it into forced withdrawal. My Wolverine, now heavily damaged, ran off to try to create distance, which didn't work - the Banshee alpha struck, spiking up to 13 heat but putting the Wolverine on the ground and causing the pilot to black out.In the next turn, the Banshee, already at 13 heat, inexplicably alpha struck AGAIN in hopes of confirming a kill on the unconscious Wolverine. The +2 modifier from heat made all the difference, only inflicting a few nonlethal crits, while the Banshee this time spiked all the way up to 30+ heat, going into automatic shutdown and falling over from a PSR from damage.Then the Blazer-equipped Shadow Hawk moved in and it was time to teach my opponent about Aimed Shots.Sadly, even standing next to a prone target, I didn't confirm the headshot with the Aimed Shot. But that was okay - the Blazer took off one of the Banshee's already damaged legs. With the Stalker in forced withdrawal and only my Wolverine having taken significant hits, the Lyrans called it a loss.My Banshee now.
>>94193893>SoCal Open tomorrow?Damn didn't even know this was going on. Shame I would have requested the day off. What are you bringing to the event anon?
>>94193960My Falcons. Parts of Alpha Trinary, 9th Talon Cluster, Gamma Galaxy to be specific.-Timber Wolf F 3G/3P - BV2 3980-Storm Crow Prime 3G/4P BV2 2736-Incubus 4G/4P BV2 1754-Elemental AP Gauss (Squad 5) 3G/4AM BV2 762-Elemental AP Gauss (Squad 5) 3G/4AM BV2 762Total BV2: 9996I literally just found out about this (well remembered about it really) this evening so I just registered and threw this list together. Fully expecting to get stomped but I've never played in a tournament setting before, only in casual-ish store games.
>>94193899>names and portraits for all 15 mech pilotsDamn, that's some commitment.Are the portraits AI or what?
>>94193956Fuch yeah, glory to Marik! What's your plan for the Banshee?
>>94193979Sick, hope you have fun buddy. Bring glory to Clan jade Falcon
>>94193993So in my last few engagements, my Scout Lance lost their Hermes II and Assassin but captured a Pegasus. I've also got a Zeus in storage. I'm giving serious thought to deactivating the remaining Scout Lance mechs and putting the Banshee and Zeus online along with the Pegasus and the scout lance's Phoenix Hawk, getting me a sort of uneven but capable second Assault Lance.
>>94193983The portraits are from MekHQ, I named all of them though and cycled through the portrait options until I found ones I liked.
>>94191810>>94188078>>94188009There's hardened armor as well which allows for a whole lot more tonnage invested on protection, but you have to be willing to lose that extra MP.
>>94188009>he hasn't invested in Ferro-Lamellar or Hardened Armor before.
>>94189232They're clanners, the boys have been tag teaming her since they were 14.
>>94188009There's going to be a point where you just can't physically stack more. Not every mech can be the mackie.
>>94190179Wolf 31 Flavors, Falcons, Bears (My clan dudes), Diamond Fox. Have the most involved storylines for the setting. But that can lead to em being either boring and/or too much plot armor. Jags are/should be dead. Scorpions got a whole ass kingdom, Ravens are at the edge doing spacer things. Hell's Horses Mad Max and that just lives em open for more fill in from players. vs how many times Jaime got the Goons destroyed and bounced back. Wolf being just a mess of excuses to still exist because Ulric was a souped up Hanse with the serial filed off. Da Bears, it's understandably tiresome.
>>94194060>Hardened armor, Modular armor on every locationYou wouldn't be able to carry much in the way of weapons but imagine how tough that would be to kill.
>>94194125Now if one had jump jets you don't need weapons.
>>94190179>Before I go though why does BTG like such literally-who clans?Much more room to play with.Also, the whole shtick of clans is them being alien to Inner Sphere affairs.Bears, Sharks and Wolves practically stopped being clanners somewhere durring Jihad-Ghost Bears, now they just another Successor States
>>94194135>>94194125I've gone through many concepts of this idea before, but this was what I whipped up before. I have more optimized versions of this mech BUT.>annoyingly hard to hit with Jump 7>Ferro-Lam damage reduction black magic ontop of it being nearly max armored 95 tonner>throw in 2/0 Pilot>enjoy NEAR GUARNTEED DFA hits>DFA does 49 points of damage in 5 point groups on the punch table>DFA self damage is reduced by the reinforced legs quirk and ferro-lam
>>94194232
>>94187720Invincible Strongest of the Strong...The Strongest in all the Clans...The Mortals who surpass the Founder...The Alphastrikes of Awe. The Bloodnamed of Brutality. The Conquerors of ComStar. The Destroyers of Dracs. The Elementals of Eugenics. The Fiercest of Felines. The Galaxies of Gods. The Hierophants of Honor. The Immortals of Invasion. The Juggernaut of Justice. The Khans of Karaboga. The Loremasters of Loquaciousness. The Massacre of Mongeese. The Negsayers of Noobs. The Overlords of Omnimechs. The Pinnacle of Panthers. The Quaestors of Quietus. The Ristars of Ruination. The Starleague of Superhumans. The Trueborn of Terra. The Unifiers of Universes. The Vortex of Violence. The Warriors of Wonder. The Xerox of Xenohumanity. The Yiffers of Yakuza. The Zenith of Zellbriggen.DEATH TO KURITADEATH TO NOVA CATDEATH TO COMSTARDEATH TO WOLF'S DRAGOONSGLORY TO THE CLANSFOREVER FAITHFULJAGUARS FOREVERWHO DARES ACCEPT OUR BATCHALL?
>>94194251>haunts you while you take Wolf knot for eternity
>>94194251keyed
>>94194251Reminder that Aisha would suffer from a -3 Charisma modifier because catgirls are unattractive on the mutation modifier table.
>>94194304Sounds like this "mutation modifier table" was written by a freebirth
>>94187875>>94193729>>94193899This is neat, picking clusters that are not painted in the stereotypical colors for their respective Clans.
>>94194320Going by Camospecs, there are no stereotypical Clan colors. Every Galaxy in a touman variates colors and patterns wildly.
>>94193346Oh! Ooooh! Yeah if that goes off there’s not going to be much of a mech left. In fact, look up the Halifax Explosion, I think you might get a similar scenario.
>>94188209>Threadly reminder that Snord should have been SneedThere is a Sneede in Snord, at leasthttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Samual_Sneede
>>94194363Don't forget his Sneede rifleman.
>>94194331Pretty sure anon means how clans are usually represented. Like Delta Galaxy for CJF and CSJ. Beta Galaxy for CW and so on.
I've noticed that several of the designs that originated from MW:DA have leg mounted weapons, which isn't much of a thing in normal BT, out side of a couple TRO:3025 designs. Did leg weapons work differently in that rule set? I assume they weren't as restrictive.
>play random on megamek>he takes semi guided and swarm lrms
>>94194388I dont think there was any mechanical impact of leg mounted weapons in MWDA
>>94194359It's got CASE though, so its claw pops off and that's about all that happens.
>>94194363>>94194380When did this thread turn into a Dr. Seuss general?
>>94194380Rifleman Formerly Chucke
>>94194399Eh? Oh! Okay I see it now. Yikes that could’ve been an epic disaster.
Best color primer to put gold over? White? Gray?
>>94194399It won't be instagibbed but it will be down to a light PPC and a plasma rifle.
>>94194482Dark brown.
>>94194482Yellow for bright gold, brown for dark gold.
>>94194405>Would you batchall with a House?>Would you duel an Eisenfaust?>I do not like this Steiner scam >I do not like their gausswall spam
>>94194535Audibly laughed.
>>94194491>>94194514You guys are cool. Do not trust Star Adders.
MRC = FAGGOTS
>>94194562>MRBCFTFY
>>94194566no im talking about the 40k refugee WAAC tournament players
>>94194592Qrd?
>>94193316It should have battlefists or maybe a quirk which gives the arm weapons some crit protection
>>94194594MechCommander Review CircuitYou can find more herehttps://scottsgameroom.com/2022/05/13/battletech-play-formats/Basically they "ban" overpowered stuff but otherwise do whatever is legal within the rules to win and treat limits like requirements, like they might set a pulse laser limit where a LPL counts for 5 and other pulses count for one and you can't have more than 21 in a list so of course everyone has 21, everyone uses 4/5 pilots, it's just really lame. They ban some of what is considered the most broken designs but then everyone just uses the 2nd most broken.
>>94194621>community-drivenSo not official authority. Sounds like leftist mob rule.
>>94194621>They ban some of what is considered the most broken designs but then everyone just uses the 2nd most broken.Such is the mind of the tourney player. They can create all the format restrictions and banlists they want, but the problem isn't the game it's tourney players themselves. The nature of tournaments demands that a player seek optimized overmatch by any technically legal means. At the end of the day the only way to "balance" the game is for every player to use the same list, or to remove so much of the game's variation that every list might as well be the same list. These fuckers would all be playing chess if they actually cared about streamlined, balanced play, but that's not what they want, what they want is to discover and exploit the next meta list before that too gets nerfed, to revel in being clever enough to have figured out how to break the current set of limitations and be known as the player whose list everyone copies until the next round of updates. It's a Sisyphean scene.
>>94194621I just did a search for "pulse" and found no mention of pulse laser restrictions within the MRC Rules. Perhaps you're confusing an individual tournament organisers rules - which I saw the MRC booklet does point out as being possible - with the misguided guidelines set out by them.
>>94193502>cashYou really don't understand clanner culture. Anyone other than the merchant caste caught with K-bills is either a thief or a active subversive in Clan lifestyle. Clan police forces can go from Mayberry PD to BLM fantasy++ in a heartbeat, especially if they think you are acting contrary to the warrior caste.
>>94194999So what kind of exchange rate is Clan Sea Fox giving the IS states for their own currencies, and are they hoarding IS native currencies for use in other IS states?
>>94194967that's why I said might, stuff like the pulse laser thing i mentioned has been done beforeThis guys channel is an example of one of them.I don't hate him but he purely approaches stuff from a power level perspective, THESE MECHS ARE TRASH USE THESE INSTEAD.
Hey, if you want your 'mech to have one third of the survivability, go right ahead.
I love seeing mech internals.
>>94195019>exchange rate Kerensky's are for inter clan trade, anything else they use inner sphere currency and anything that they sell is going to be STEEPLY in favor of Sea Fox, though it will be high quality. Clan Sea Fox sells virtually everything to everyone, and if they play their cards right they could topple the C-Bill.
>>94195067You wouldn't put bright analog LED readouts for jump jets in a place nobody could ever see in any situation.
>>94194999You can't not have currency in some form. There is always a need for a way to measure the availability of resources against the worth of potential consumers, incidentally especially so in the meritocratic-pseudo-communistic society of the Clans. It may be points which cannot be used for typical things like recreational items or extra food, but there will be points of some kind to allocate wartime assets to warriors who both need them and can make better use of them than lesser men. The only thing you can do to distance yourself from it is pretend it isn't currency.Kerenskies is just too funny a name to pass up.
>>94190539Not sure what to feel about author slowly switching from cthulhu eldritch abomination to ring builders and unknown agressors from Expance in the last two stories.Still could be a pretty cool lore-accurate stories, since Goons were chasing ghosts near the planet where Black marauder was originally found
>>94195232The technician caste who does maintenance on the jump jet and needs to be able to check its status would.
>>94195029>I don't hate him but he purely approaches stuff from a power level perspective, THESE MECHS ARE TRASH USE THESE INSTEAD.yeah, i watched some of his vids and git a bit tired of the 'the only good mechs are ones with command consoles to get an advantage in initiative rolls'.
>>94195232Just for that, I'm putting one on a machine gun too.
>>94195232Because pod-mountable equipment could have different requirements for instrument panels, omnimechs just have vid screens in their cockpits and cameras monitoring the readouts on the equipment itself. Did you not know that?
>>94191551>AurigansThe issue with Auriagans, is that they don't have any individuality actually (Canopians have catgirls and drugs, Taurians have burgers and Cola, Marian and Fronc have LARPers, Outworld Alliance have space hippies, Outworld Wastes, Dark Expanse, Gum Nebula).
>>94195267>clan currency Kerenskys are for LARGE things, like industrial or military allocations not day to day spending. As for living expenses Clans operate like a military does, with housing supplied according to caste/rank within said caste. A laborer is probably going to live the majority of their life in a quonset squad bay (heating or cooling optional) with a sheet being the closest thing to privacy, while warrior caste officers have their own private rooms. What you don't see anywhere in Clan society is luxury or exorbitant affluence, their society isn't based off wealth.
>>94195460>omnimechs just have vid screens in their cockpits and cameras monitoring the readouts on the equipment itself. Did you not know that?...Why not just have a virtual instrument panel on the vid screens?
>>94195953The clan scientists in charge of UI are failed warrior caste, what do you expect?
>>94195970Yeah that checks out...
>>94195521>The issue with Auriagans, is that they don't have any individuality actuallyWith that name, one would assume that they're in a Cold War that the Davions declared on them after it became apparent that they have a working sewage system.
Do you guys ever play MegaMek with each other? Might be fun to have some friendly competition with anons, and it would be a good excuse to test out Mechs
>>94196129yes but im going to sleep now, you can add me galahad777 on discord
>>94196149You're not a queer are you?
>>94196184no im not a queer
Which is better, max Ferro-Fibrous or max Standard?
how the FRICK do I get MegaMek's windows to just open when I click it instead of hiding somewhere beyond my screen, I have to use elaborate shift+ctrl+something something to get it to where I can see it
It begins.
>>94196202gives the exact same protection ferro just saves tonnage for slots
>>94196237Good luck!
>>94196237
>>94195521their individual identity is making anons seethebut beyond that (and ignoring vidya fans obviously) I guess it's being a general example of their class of faction, like we've heard of itty bitty periphery ministates before but this is the only one I can think of fleshed out to this point, and as the leading example it makes sense to be as by the books as reasonableI dunno I'm just spitballing
>>94196264
>>94195521>Taurians have burgers and ColaOk I am a Taurian now
>>94196237That's a lot of grey minis.
>>94196309The brightest color on the board is dark blue. How depressing.
>mech with a partial wing>jumping 10>LAM>jumping 6>LAMs cant have wingsGuys i think i found the problem
>>94196387They are actually painted i think they just look super close to unpainted lol
>The Jags you play as in the new game are fucking wardens.
>>94196402>literally 2 words>4 words
>>94196415no idea if this is true but every clan had at MOST a 90/10 warden crusader split, or vice versa
>>94196409lol! The fact that you're not sure is just so great. Yes, some of them are painted, grey. Then there's some variety mixed in of slightly darker grey and slightly lighter grey. Make no mistake though, there's also unpainted minis there. What exciting color schemes.
>>94196425I did not sign up to feel BAD about killing fucking Freebirths. I signed up to Jag Harder.
>>94196415Have you considered killing your sibkin?
>>94196387Clan Wolf neutral gray, man. That's a canon paint scheme
>>94196475add it to the pile of wolves being trash tier
>>94196441There's only 1 unpainted mini on the board. The person with the painted Pouncer dropped at the last minute due to Covid. We try extremely hard not to play with unpainted minis.
>>94196415only 1 (Liam) is heavily Warden-leaning, the rest are pretty "normal"
>>94196489Yeah..... be a shame if someone violated zellbrigen and turned a trial of possession into a melee (you get to kill them for this)
>All the other sibs with the pumped up 'mechs
>>94196486LOL at Wolf players. "Oh there's no artillery, we can cluster up and make Mechbricks with no consequences.">Rangers players: immediately and successfully Stackpole the Gargoyle.
>>94196489Isn't liam the fag that uses contractions?
>>94196486Clearly not.>"No unpainted minis on game night, end of story"Simple as.
>>94195970Silence surat, clan science will prevail!
>>94196671I've never seen an Timber Wolf and Summoner not kill an Atlas.
>>94196681shut the fuck up steve or the warriors will not clear the check
>>94196671can't believe gurren lagaan ripped off the clans like this, without so much as a trial
>>94196622Yeah, he's easily the most 'un-clanlike' of the set. He talks back to the saKhan on open comms, lmao. Surprised he didn't get the shit beaten out of him for that. It could be worse: he could be Mia who is both a non-entity and apparently has a $2 microphone stapled onto her helmet. Her audio quality is awful for some reason. PGI's characterization of the Jags overall is honestly too soft. I've only gotten to the first part of the Edo debacle but I really wish they'd just let the Jags be obviously bad people for a minute. Don't have the Galaxy Commander gripe about an 'overzealous pilot' merking the monk on Edo. The op was obviously only ever about extracting their pound of flesh. Just own up to that and complain about the pilot being an idiot for believing the guy. He should have killed MORE. And the little mini-arc with the pirate prisoners was also too soft. Jags don't give a shit about Freeborn laborers. Not really. Have them be shocked by the wastefulness of the harsh treatment but don't have them get all indignant about how mean the pirates are. Jags don't give a shit about brutality; that's their entire thing. Also whoever it is at PGI that decided to make an even heavier gigaheavy VTOL for an awful boss fight in a garbage arena should be kicked in the nuts.
>>94196681>>94196689>shut the fuck up steve or the warriors will not clear the checkYeah, how else are we suppose to pay off our OnlyClans subscription!
>>94196747>Also whoever it is at PGI that decided to make an even heavier gigaheavy VTOL for an awful boss fight in a garbage arena should be kicked in the nuts.Get filtered!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h05yYq0X3pQ
>>94196748>I am NOT a simp quiaff? But that elemental girl is releasing a holovid of her doing a patrol in her armor while secretly naked inside and I am NOT missing it
>>94196790I actually really like the megacopter in AC6 because you have cover to hide behind and can stab the cockpit with your laser sword. The Sokov fight is in an empty bowl, the thing never stops firing, and it has more HP than two Atlases stapled together. How the fuck are a bunch of two-bit pirates even supposed to be operating this thing? The Igor in Mercenaries is a super-heavy but probably rules legal; I can't imagine how heavy the Sokov would have to be.
>clanners are currently invading>hey major you're actually going to attack the combine rightWhat was his major malfunction?
>>94196827Have you made it to the gazelle boss yet?
>>94196869I have not. I just got the Yakuza bondsman.
>>94196486>The person with the painted Pouncer dropped at the last minute due to Covid.Muh covid. Don't forget to get your booster fag.
>>94196931what did we say about lazy bait?
Ah what a beautiful bay area.
>>94196917They turned it into a pocket warship and filled it with gauss rifles and PPCs.>the bondsmanHad an awesome headshot me with all 3 of its PPCs on that mission
Are there any interesting stories about Elementals leaving the Clans and war behind and just becoming civilians in the Inner Sphere?Picture unrelated, it doesn't have to be horny. Haha... unless?
>>94196943mechwarrior makes some of these places look so fucking cozy, I want space frontier cities on relatively unmolested planets with novel geography and climatealso >SPOILER_lmao, hey guys new lore just dropped smoke jags aren't nice to turtle bay
>>94196943Anyone posted the OST yet?
>muh turtle bayPerez did nothing wrong. Amazed PIGgy made a non linear story and you are not forced to be a warden. Unless the split leads to teh same ending.
>>94196962>shun molesting a child>not larping as the child getting molestednot canonalso elementals wash out of placement and get blue collar jobs pretty regularly, don't know if the battle armor troops retire too often seeing as any trueborn even wanting to peace out of the clans is unusual (but not impossible)I dunno, there's probably an above average amount of snu snu in the dominion if that's what you need, and sarna says you can have freebirth elementals if a washout labour caste elemental(s) smash so that's not only a cool setup for a story but confirms they get into normal relationships
>>94196593LOL at Wolf players. The prone Timber Wolf *also* Stackpoles. The Wolf CO mentions, "there seems to be something wrong with our bloody Mechs today." Beatty is evidently now a Bloodname.
>>94196960>They turned it into a pocket warship and filled it with gauss rifles and PPCs.Of course they did.
>>94196835Hang on, I know this! Give me a second to look over TVtropes to make sure I got it all correct.Yes! So In the classic “5-man-band” ensemble, the common archetypes are: the Leader, the Lancer, the heart, the Brains, and the Muscle.I’m pretty sure Ciro was supposed to be the early show’s Lancer. And the Lancer’s role is to be an allied foil to the leader, creating this yin and Yang within the party. And in stories where one of the party members betrays the rest, it’s usually going to be the Lancer. When done well you can get characters like Han Solo, or Kira Nerys. When written lazily, you get Ciro.
>>94197189Now that I think about it, Star Scream would also be a lancer. I just don’t know if he’s an example of a lancer done well, or a lancer done poorly.
>>94197173Keep your off topic shitposting out of this thread namefag. Nobody cares.
>>94197173Take it to 'em. Fuck Clan Wolf.
>there is a fight with three (3) Sokov VTOLSomeone is getting batchalled for this.
>Make Mechwarrior game>About the SMOKE JAGUARS>Literally Clan 56%>They're all white>They don't act like Smoke Jaguars>They're all hyper-professional>Nobody Jags harderJesus fucking Christ it was the slowest pitch ever, right over the plate, and you somehow swung three times before it hit the catcher's mitt are these devs fucking Swedish or something?
>>94197398In current year you can't depict nigs being genocided.
>>94197036I want to kill MORE Freebirths. I want to go door to door in Edo and kill entirely families. I want to flamethrower hospitals and dump thousands of rounds of 14.5mm indiscriminately into orphanages. Total Drak Death.
>>94197398>are these devs fucking Swedish or something?no, but the hyperconglomerate that scooped them up is
>>94197398you're low level, the higher ups are busy getting kamikazed, your direct superiors are middle managers at best
>>94197398>They're all whiteYes. They're the bad guys.
>>94197189Pretty sure the lancer is Sakamoto. Ciro functioned more of a "heart," being a ideologically motivated, Kerensky faithful, student of the leader.
>>94197431>your direct superiors are middle managers at bestCobalt Star is deployed alongside the saKhan. Middle managers my ass.
>>94197455ah you haven't made it past the tutorial yet, see you in 20 hours
>>94197470Chapter 1 isn't a tutorial. Even on Edo Jayden is directly involved in conversations involving the Galaxy Commander and the Demi Precentor.
>>94197419This but unironically, and nuke nova cats too
>>94197452Sakamoto Was the replacement lancer. Actually I think Ryder might’ve been the actual heart.
>>94197540You're a light star tasked with scouting, gotta tell the big guy's what's up so they can better fall into traps.
>>94197620Okay I gotta ask, and this is just from how I keep seeing Clans portrayed here:How did these morons ever pose a serious threat to the inner sphere?
>>94197647They hit before you can shoot back.
>>94197647What is the inner sphere going to do against all of the clan war ships when they have none themselves?
>>94197647Clantech. It's bullshit.
>>94197647Cobalt Star is five dudes and able to cut their way through like 80 mechs without losses. Clantech advantage means quite a lot. Also the Clans had really for real warships.
>>94197671>the Clans had really for real warships.>beaten by a single ASFYeah, big threat. It's just author fiat. There's no legitimate reason why the Clans did what they did.
>>94197663As I recall someone pointing out in a history of battletech playlist, battletech warships are only really good for fighting other warships. Since no one in the IS was really bothering with maintaining fleets anymore, the value of building up a fleet became suspect.Plus by the 3rd succession war, the only IS planets still inhabited were self-sufficient. So once the invasion force was killed or captured from their own arrogance/incompetence what were the orbital ships supposed to do? Wait for their supplies to run out then sulk back to clan space?
>>94197724Just completely ignore nuclear orbital bombardments.
Behold - the Fire Moth v 0.5
>>94197647Because the Inner Sphere is just as incompetant, but everything is from their perspective, so they don't look as bad.
>>94197734Even the Clans must know that once you start Nuking everything, the strategic value of the planet is lost.Actually… and I present this only because in medieval Europe this was a thing to make sieges easier, have the Clans or IS ever just parlayed with the besieged planet and went:“Look, we don’t want to deal with a long siege, you don’t want to deal with a long siege. So let’s put our cards on the table here! How long can your supplies actually last for? Let’s just agree that if you can’t break the siege or are not relieved before that time you surrender the planet to us? Well even let your defenders leave, I mean the mechs and other wargear has to stay, don’t be ridiculous. But you and yours will be free to leave and no one will think less of you, after all if your superiors think so little of you that they can’t be bothered, or so incompetent that they are not capable of protecting their vassals, how much of your loyalty do they really deserve? What do you say?”
>>94197825Reducing population total reduces need for resources, Earth would be doing really good at current tech level if we lost an excess 7 billion useless mouthes.
>>94197896Actually we produce plenty of basic resources for everyone. The problem is usually one of logistics.
>>94197734Clanner war doctrine is meant to avoid unnecessary destruction. Both them and the IS understand nukes aren't strategically viable.
>>94197967it's arguably necessary, population is too large and decentralized to accomplish the end goal of re-establishing and maintaining the Star League.reduce population to a sustainable size on a couple dozen planets and the problem is practically solved.
>>94197948desu I'd nuke all three of those without any of the justifications you listed
>>94197984That doesn't make much sense, the IS is arguably less populated than when the star league was around, and hasn't expanded much if at all. As well all the successor states are already able to sustain their populations(some more than others). The IS by the time of the clan invasion was arguably in an economic upswing not a declining one.
>>94197948Nah man. I agree that a lot of humanity are sub-80-IQ animals with less light behind their eyes than a zoo exhibit, but you only need 10k'ish humans in contact with one another to continue the species. Even worst case scenario, we should survive.>40% of north american farmers are projected to die or retire with noone experiemced or willing to take over.That's why farms have consolidated the last 75 years. Farming was 50+% of the population in 1950. It was 2% in 2000. The 40 acre subsistence tards are all gone. A single farming family can do 10k acres when left to their own devices. The real issue isn't the farmers, but the hedgefunds, foundations and developers coming in to grab the land in places like Iowa.
When you guys play for BV do you stick by the normal MegaMek BV values or have another one that you use because cheese louize armor costs a lot, and double heat sinks seem to cost as much as single heat sinks what the heck
>>94198093Megamek is the best because it does everything according to the official rules including tweaking for pilots and stuff.
t. guy that wants to run slow moving maximum armor unoptimized rough and tough mech teams at low BV values
>>94198099The old maxim "Bury the clanners in armor" exists for a reason. It's better to take the 3rd War shitheaps than 3050's upgrades if the only balance is BV.
>>94198113Yeah, and I go pretty hard with it, to the point of putting most weapons in the torso so arms are basically extra torso armor. I have gone into ICE engine Mechs a little bit as well but I don't think most players would agree to fight against them without a heavy look at the list at least. I LOVE clunky mechs
>>94198093>>94198098Megamek requires downloading, so fuck that. I’ve been using masterunitlist.info for calculating BV… sometimes, other times I just add it up myself (from BV values I grabbed off either Sarna or master unit list, I don’t usually worry about mechwarrior stats because I’ve rarely adjusted them above or below baseline, preferring more mechs to better pilots.
>>94198125Dieselbacks are peak DA shit.
>>94198144>Not having your force commander be the top dude in a better machineYou dishonor yourself.
>>94198125>"It took them 300 years to graft a stick to a mech? How bad are things out here?">anon, about to roll up with his company of diesel powered lead bricks
>>94198146OH HELL YEAH
Abridged Batrep for the Falcons at SoCal open. Jade Falcons vs Raven Alliance, game 1.Bottom line upfront, I won but I was the lowest over-all scoring winner on account of time. I deleted 60% of his force by turn 6 but then we ran out of time, (mostly due to shit luck and me winning initiative 3 turns in a row) neither of us scored the objective which was a touch and go type. So I won, but neither of us did well on the points over all, but he did really badly.
>>94196407>mech with a partial wing>jumping 10>LAM in airmech mode with its wings out>cruise/flank flight speed 12/18>LAMs cant have additional wings next to their wings
>>94198178Dragonfly wings Mech would be too cool im sorry
>>94197647the IS is that much worse you see
>>94198146It could really use a flail though ..
>>94198211>Flail>Can't take advantage of the TSM because always 9 damageI say no to you sir.
>>94196943>>94197007Why is it so uncomfortably square?Like, I'd get a grid layout if it was an area that could be further developed, but it's a square block in a square canyon.>>94197948>No, and it's getting worse, in the next decade 40% of north american farmers are projected to die or retire with noone experiemced or willing to take over.BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!It's going to be immigrants, aka the "illegals" already shipped in to work the farms in the first place, and not even that many since Big Ag prefers working millions of acres with only a handful of crew.>>94197984Gihren please go...>>94198084>The real issue isn't the farmers, but the hedgefunds, foundations and developers coming in to grab the land in places like Iowa.Is there any land left to grab at this point?It's been three or four generations since the consolidation started.
>>94198282the megafarms pump the ground full of GMO roundup shit which ruins the soil so I'm sure there will be plenty of sand to buy from them in a few years
>>94198146>>94198162>>anon, about to roll up with his company of diesel powered lead bricksWelcome to the Sticks motherfucker!>>94198178bUt DoUbLe ThE wInGs MeAnS dOuBlE tHe LiFt!!1!!2>>94198298Nah, the GMOs are killing off the natural pollinators, it's the nitrates and other fertilizers turning the soil toxic, and erosion that's washing that sometimes literal shit out into the Gulf.
>>94198282>Is there any land left to grab at this point?>It's been three or four generations since the consolidation started.There's always land available in a good downturn. In the early 1990's, my family that had been pretty broke since the oil boom in 1910 grabbed about 2000 acres of good cultivation. I tried to convince my dad to buy up some of the current farms at market price the last couple years with the generation change but he won't budge about his 5% lease return rate. So shortsighted.Now, certain places that have geographic advantage like central Texas have been totally fucked. 10k/acre for fucking scrag? Hell no. Nobody can make a living farming that who didn't get it as inheritance or does it as a rich man hobby.
>>94198332Well I was specifically talking about Iowa, I don't think there is any that doesn't belong to a Corporate Farm, a Developer, or the State already.It's why the last two acres of our Family Farm, mostly the old Bin Lot we moved to when the Highway bought both Farmhouses for the Overpass, commanded a price when we finally gave it up.
>>94198364Yeah, Iowa is the most fucked of the great plains states right now. Not in small part due to Gates sticking his fingers in the pie directly.
>>94198511Does Gates have any money here?Corporate Kim wanting to privatize every social service is the biggest kneecapping we've faced, making the Brain drain even worse...
>>94198544Gates Foundation invests in Iowa farmland only behind California farmland and alone accounts for over a quarter of corporatization of cultivation.
>>94198332>Now, certain places that have geographic advantage like central Texas have been totally fucked. 10k/acre for fucking scrag?Blame the ranchers for that. They're asking for that much to put a wind turbine on.
>>94198558Not in central. That's like Oklaunion and Windthorst where the windfarms are.The central folks got that sweet gas frack money in 2008 so don't have to give up anything. The prices are all about development around Austin and I-35. Austin is like a fucking cancerous tumor. It's bled as far north as Salado right now.
As interesting as the disenfranchisement of the farmer's proletariat is, I don't see what it has to do with Battletech.
>>94198549Bah, better Billy Microsoft than foreign money firms, kinda hard to stay sovereign when China or Russia technically own your bread basket.Plus he might actually require shit like Conservation buffer strips.
>>94198596Just talking shit as I groundtruth my mini collection.>I'm going to have to model arms for my lone RakshashaSo be it.
>>94198596Do you even AgroMech Son?!
>>94198598Yeah it's hard to feel bad for these aging farmers when they cause their children to cut contact and then sell to the chinese the first chance they get.Any farmer that sells to a foreign entity deserves to be strung up.
>>94198570>SaladoAustin's in for a fight if it wants to go any further. Temple tried to annex Salado in the '00s and got bitchslapped so hard their growth's shifted from south to east ever since.
>>94198692On topic, though, Temple has a good game scene, I haven't found Waco's at all.
>>94198696Copperas Cove here. You boys want an old Forever GM grog who actually has modern ilClan shit too, I'll host you, anytime.>I haven't found Waco's at all.The one TTG place over by Valley Mills used to carry BT and was where I played back during the Jihad when I was at Baylor.
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>>94198596This conversation is fine. It's shitposting like >>94197173>>94196593>>94196486>>94196475that's off topic and a problem.
>>94198322>bUt DoUbLe ThE wInGs MeAnS dOuBlE tHe LiFt!!1!!2
>>94199813It was more of a dig at the AeroGavin...
