>Enters /tg/
>what if patron deity of motherhood was edgy evil and insane
I dont get it. Tldr?
>>94263621>"POV: you ordered a FAT DOG WIFE from Wish"
>>94263835What ever happened to that guy, he get perma'd for spam or something?
>>94262166I thought it pretty funny that in the videogame her priest was one of the nest advisors.
>>94264340gotta compensate for alienating half the other advisors I suppose
>>94262166Reminder that there's an entire Lamashtu dungeon with a giant pregnant gnoll boss who lactates corruptive milk.
>>94264387>>94264340>>94262166All of this is ancient lore. Modern Paizo is not about this. They lost their edge.
>>94263621when mom won't get you a puppy, so you try to make one yourself
>>94263843Considering _I still wifepost on /a/ and /fit/, not likely.
>>94265724Oh thank god. I thought you left.
>>94265698Are those the satanic animals from the South Park christmas episode?
>>94262166>tfw it was the magical realm of DM when I went to college, she got our party lost in woods where this crazy cult had their basis of operations and wanted to the captured girl adventurers of the party bred with monsters and the guys turned into girls so they can be bred with monstersThe worst thing was that the other girls of the group seemed to be into that kind of creepy horror magical realm narrative. Give me the whimsical whizzard any time, adventures are supposed to be a fun, not freaky horrorshow.
>>94265772looks like it's referencing itfuck that guy for not spoilering the image though
>>94262166>>94262552>>94262585>>94264340>>94264387What made 1e Pathfinder/Golarion such a quintessentially coomercore setting?
>>94265802>party of girls into weird guro shit in their teeteearepeegeezI mean, I don't like tf but I wont pretend that I wouldn't covertly enjoy some qt chicks RPing ryona
>>94267653It was made by 3.5 nerds who had a free outlet for their fantasies, no matter how degenerate. As they pivoted to being political more over the years the writing became less and less creative.
>>94262552I know talk about unoriginal
>>94262166Why did they make the goddess of abortions a pregnant woman and mother of monsters?
>>94267722And?
>>94268826Shiggy never even did anything wrong
>>94262585I actually quite like that monster. I find pregnancy, complications during pregnancy and birth deformities to be an interresting effective, if a bit underutilized horror theme. I can imagine a horror campaign where the PCs keep fighting horribly mutated monsters who seemingly spawn from nowhere, or who are born from creatures who shouldn't be able to give birth to them. Like a mutated hill giant who was born from a woman who was thought barren and who has never seen a single hill giant in her life, or a Ram-headed manticore who was born from a sickly horse or pig. Eventually the PCs fight this thing as a final boss. I'd give her some ability to impregnate surrogate without being noticed (Like a change shape (Polymorph) or something) and make those pregancies take like half the usual time for the host species.The main problem is keeping a campaign going long enough for the player to reach a level where they can feasibly fight this, And I'll be damned if I ever run a mythic campaign. The secondary problem is that most player will probably view it as a depraved fetish campaign
>>94269951>The secondary problem is that most player will probably [my depraved fetish campaign] as a depraved fetish campaign
>>94268826we like older deities
>>94269993Yes.
>>94262552The cosmic evil stepmother
>>94267653Monsters are taken from mythology which is full of kinks. Drakainas as mothers of monsters are something from IRL myths not something Paizo made up.
>>94262166I never understood this depiction. Isn't Lamashtu supposed to be infertile?
>>94269070>>94270740I figured its a metaphor of sorts. She's the Demon Goddess of dead babies and abortions and gives 'birth' to literal walking abortions i.e. misshapen, inhuman monsters.
Stuff like this make me believe that the 80s Satanic panic had a point.
>>94269070Moloch would've been too on the nose.
>>94267653>What made 1e Pathfinder/Golarion such a quintessentially coomercore setting?It was made by 1e fanboys to be the refuge for people disgruntled that WotC were dropping 3E for 4E and those fanboys were also very into kinky sex and fetishes inserted into their products. All the adventures Paizo wrote for DnD had some fa/tg/guycore shit in them and so did all the early adventure paths.But then Paizo decided to rebrand and become the cool inclusive company and they dropped all that and now they're just another brand of DnD.
>>94269993
>>94264425Honestly amazed the comics actually touched on this
>>94262166I got a massive preg kink.
>>94271531>It was good to falsely accuse school workers of being child molesters because... a tabletop game has a pregnancy fetish demonokay
>>94269993>>94271974Even the SFW-ish remake version of "The Elder Sister-like One" has some absolutely fucking incredible panels of the Black Goat and her friends.
>>94272889heh, that's a very direct reference to Frank Frazetta's "The Cat Girl". Pose, background color, composition, even a lot of the background details.
>>94271531Who can find what the finders hide?
DnD 4th edition also had an adventure where they players had to fight an extremely pregnant dragon broodmother of each chromatic dragon types, so it's not like the Paizon boys had a monopoly on this particular magical realm.
>>94276188>falselyanon, I...
>>94278418Back to Facebook with you, gramps. How the fuck did you even find your way here in the first place.
>>94262166Yeah.
>>94269993>>94271974>>94277286>>94277309Kino art
>>94278729Cope zoomer
>>94262166I like this design, but I don't like that she has a skull thong, it's too much.Also it doesn't make sense for her to be Lamashtu, they should have chosen another god/demon.
>>94278418Yes, contrarian imbecile, falsely.
>enters /tg/
>>94262166This art sucks. Bring back Medusa girl sneaking a lock of snake up my ass to headbutt my prostate while she sucks me.
>>94279067cope redditor
>>94279230I'm sickened yet curious.
>>94278418You have any evidence other than your brain worms?>inb4 it's probably out there educate yourself
>>94262552You already described her as the deity of motherhood. The rest was just redundant.
>>94279906I don't know if you didn't understand what he said or this is an attempt at a joke.
>>94279893
>>94279937the brain worms have progressed
>>94262552Kali is labeled a mother deity, and though she did some insane shit, she isn't evil
>>94280047Ok, I don't know what it has to do with the topic of the thread.>>94280030Go back to r*ddit
>>94279032>>94279486>>94280440You're trying too hard.
>>94279639This purple skinned floozy>cappi NNGAAA
>>94262166>>94262552>>94262585>>94264340>>94264387>>94268826>>94269993>>94270274>>94278746Unfathomably based monster type.
>>94262166I enter her.
>>94264367That doesn't really happen from what I remember. Nobody just says "fuck it, I'm done with all the monster fucking" and leaves.At least they didn't when I played,Man, that game is pretty fun.
>>94280613thanks for proving that you are a redditor.
>>94281898NTA, but I guess you do have one point: anyone who keeps talking to you obviously doesn't belong here.Don't reply.
>>94282134>a reddit meme from a marvel slop seriesgo back to r*ddit,nigger.Stop interrupting the mother monsters thread with your political nonsense.
>>94277611Paizo exists literally because WotC had the bright idea of shutting down their magazine division, it's very possible that article is a product of a future Paizo writer.
>>94262552Leave my wife out of this you bastard!
>>94271974>>94269993>>94277286>>94277309Apparently I didn't scroll down enough to find fellow Shub worshippers. How wonderful.
>>94269993>>94271974>>94277286>>94277309>>94282567>>94282600The dog is better.
>>94278729>>94279067>>94279893>It's okay to casually claim Catholics molest kids>But it's off-limits to suggest school workers molest kids
>>94282600Do the older deities even like being worshipped? Aren't mortals matters beyong the ken of eternal elder ones?
>>94284289I know its baby's first epic trole and you're throwing random shit at the wall to see what sticks but this convo was about the '80s Satanic Panic, not child molestation.
>>94284266I respect your opinion, but disagree severely.>>94284383Usually it's a coinflip as to whether the eldritch senpai notices you, but some of them take more interest than others. All I know is I'm giving Shub here a Thousand Young, or maybe more. Imagine...
>>94282600Shub is everyone's big sistermommy
>>94284383I'm not well versed in mythos lore, but Shub should be one of the "nice" ones that do enjoy mankind's attention. Also something about rebirthing/reshaping her most devout followers.
Reminder
>>94287663this isn't necessarily either/or thing, you know
>>94287663>>94287866Indeed!
>>94278418dumbass
I've never actually read any of these eldritch waifus manga that apparently exist. So like, are the old ones just playing a little game or something? Is interacting with humanity as cute girls the equivalent of playing with their ant farm or something?>Kinda bored, might shrink down and dick around on the mortal plane for a few decades or until I feel like lunch, whichever come first tee hee~Is any of it worth reading?
>>94288459it's basically romcom, cute couples doing cute things, or light smut, but with somewhat darker overtones, unless you like the base genre, eldritch waifus probably aren't gonna carry it on their own
>>94288459IIRC, the only one I've read a bit of, the Shub-Niggurath one, basically has a kid accidently complete his dead(?) warlock dad's summoning ritual and calls up Shub-Niggurath. He mistakes her for an angel and asks for someone to spend some time with him and she basically goes "Y'know what? Fuck it, being mistaken for an angel is hilarious and I have nothing better to do for the next century, sure kid, I'll be your big sis/mommy/waifu". In the porn version /ss/ and cute slice of life with the occasional bit of mythos horror ensues, in the nonporn version the same happens just without the /ss/
>>94262552>>94262585The idea of a mother of monsters goes all the way back to Greek myth, if not even further.Whether it was purely coombait all the way back then is probably unlikely.
>>94269993Need a girl that's older than my first ancestors
>>94289041material evidence goes back to 6000 BCE
>>94264387> Disguised as a vagrant, Othine enteredthese tunnels and was soon captured. Overpowered and thrown in chains - all part of her plan to infiltrate the gang - Othine was destined for the auction block, until she caught the eye of the slavers' leaders.>It was then that she discovered they were a wicked cult of Lamashtans that secretly manipulated slave operations for a far darker purpose. Unbeknownst even to most of the other slavers, the Lamashtans covertly removed prisoners from the slave pens and used dark magic to make them hosts for monstrous children. The cultists then reintroduced the unnaturally pregnant slaves to the pens and auctioned them off to unwitting buyers throughout Golarion, sowing the seeds ofLamashtu's fiendish children.>Yet when the cultists took Othine for their dark rituals, the drugs they administered caused the knight to lose her senses and reveal her ties to the Twilight Talons. The Lamashtans proceeded to break the daring abolitionist with magic and torture, brainwashing her into serving as a double agent.>Her loyalties thus shifted, Othine began working to increase the cult's activities and influence. Wow! Just like my Taimanin anime hentai!Like, someone looked at the stupid ass plot for these games and just thought, "yeah, that makes sense."Some people say there is a fine line between fetish and horror, and they're wrong. Horribly wrong. There is no dividing barrier, there are no limits to which we can sink.
>>94289041>>94291798The feminine chaos dragon is an ancient archetype.
>>94288459Nyaruko-san (>>94287663 ) started out as a parody of web-anime of the "X-day-until-Y" form with short, comedic episodes about Nyarlathotep wanting to bang a regular human and the remainder of the Mythos moving in to sort-of harem. It proved so wildly popular that it got a TV series, which has a more serious tone but the same basic characters. The "Shub-niggurath one" is Ane Naru Mono/The Elder Sister-like One. It's sort-of waifu bait except the author genuinely cannot help himself and the Elderones keep breaking through into the storyThen there's another one I'm struggling to find that's about a young kid whose best friend is an all-devouring eldritch abomination protecting him from all the things who want to eat him. It goes some weird-ass places.
>>94291863>The cultists then reintroduced the unnaturally pregnant slaves to the pens and auctioned them off to unwitting buyers throughout Golarion, sowing the seeds ofLamashtu's fiendish children.lmao
>>94292268>Ane Naru Mono/The Elder Sister-like One. It's sort-of waifu bait except the author genuinely cannot help himselfherself, Pochimaru is a lady and occasional VTuberthat's why there's so much focus on /ss/
>>94291863Sounds like a pretty good set-up for a breeding cult. Great hook.
>>94292268Pochi is a thirsty woman si- >>94292348Oh wait, someone else caught it. All hail our Avatar of the Black Goat.
>>94291863>Disguised as a vagrant, Othine enteredthese tunnels and was soon captured. Overpowered andthrown in chains-all part of her plan to infiltrate thegangRetarded idea, how did she even think of such a dumb idea in the first place? Just send forward someone else to get kidnapped while having a team of paladins around the corner, knock out the kidnappers then use them to get to the slave auction or at least where the slaves are being held and take it out.Hell, she figured out they were cultists before she got drugged and she didn't try to escape?What a retard.
>>94270274Now that's a blast from the past. Such a shame that comic was abandoned.
>>94262552Ahem
>>94279155>enters /tg/>nobody caressad
>>94297065She wasn't edgy or evil, she was just a jealous cuck.
>>94291863>>94291798>>94289041>>94291878Apparently horny geeks with a corruption fetish is apparently universal across time and cultures. Ancient myths, western tabletop campaigns, Japanese VN porn games, etc etc. Amazing really.
>>94298515Anon, that's because that's how women are. Most myths are based on reality.
>>94297065Tied to a man that constantly cheats on her and also happens to be her boss so she can't really do shit against him... so taking it out on his lovers instead is, perhaps not exactly "normal", but certainly understandable.
>>94300026>>94297065Yeah I gotta that I really can't consider her evil, or at least not any more evil than most of the Olympians in general. Being the goddess of marriage while constantly and openly being cheated on for the world to see must be a fucking miserable existence.
>>94297065there's better examples
>>94303639you dont need to censor actual art, amigo.
>>94300212Greeks were fucking chads>heh babe, our gods are fucking around constantly. But the goddesses settle down after marriage. it's all cool. they do it we do it.>Typhon and Echidna, the only stable non cheating marriage iirc, produces all the monsters>Persphone and Hades, almost makes it but I'm pretty sure one cheats at some point.
>>94306820Hades and Persephone do seem to be the most stable relationship between the Greek Gods. I can't really think of a case of one cheating on the other, whereas at least half the myths involving Zeus consist of him dicking some mortal woman behind Hera's back. Also, an interesting detail about Persephone is that it seems her origin story might be a mythological equivalent of a retcon: that is, Persephone the queen of the underworld seems to have appeared in myths before the story about her being a daughter of Demeter that Hades fell in love with and kidnapped (but it's OK because she genuinely fell in love with him and decided stay with him in the underworld), as the Greek equivalent of Ereshkigal. She's also often referred as "dread Persephone", which isn't exactly the epithet you'd expect to be associated with a daughter of Demeter but does make sense if she's basically Greek Ereshkigal.
>>94303639damn Wright Barker could draw some real straight lines back in the day
>>94306861>it seems her origin story might be a mythological equivalent of a retconRemember that mythology was never set in stone; it's a continuum that changed over time with old stories getting incorporated into new ones that themselves eventually change over the course of history. The Spartans (yes, those Spartans) worshipped Aphrodite as a fucking war goddess; people just know about the Athens-era mythology because Athens wouldn't stop writing about themselves and how great they were.
>>94264387Also an adventure that featured mpreg.
>>94308342mpreg is a classic one
>>94287663Beware the Frenchman
>>94306800I've been b& for less.
>>94262166>attempts to enter >gets its dick chopped off>screams and howls in agony as it diesFuck off, faggot tranny.
>>94262166Yiff in hell furfag
>>94306861There's one myth I know of where Hades cheats: iirc Hades has an affair with a nymph by the name of Mente, and Persephone finds out and kills her in a rage. This resulted in the crew of mint as a plant. And yeah, Ancient Greece isn't one continuous era despite what people think. What we consider to be ancient Greek usually refers to the Hellenistic/Classical periods, but in earlier iterations of Greece, which were considered ancient to the ancient Greeks themselves, the mythos is way different.Persephone was the ruler of the underworld, an old iteration of Poseidon was the rule of the gods and based beneath the earth, and Zeus was just a minor sky god. Eventually Zeus' cult became popular enough to take over as 'king', and the Proto Poseidon was split into two different gods: Poseidon and Hades. Plus Aphrodite really was a war goddess, a big one too. In Athens though, they changed her into a love goddess and made a special snowflake goddess based on her war theming: Athena. Aphrodite has the worst PR, she basically got bimboized and split into multiple goddesses by multiple different cultures and city states across centuries.
>>94278887Pochimaru is a stellar artist
>>94280683Sauce?
>>94309936The best.
>>94309928>Zeus was just a minor sky god.If you go even further back in history Yahweh was just a regional deity of war.Funny how things develop over time.
>>94317082Yes, he was also a sky god.
>>94309928I'll do you one better, the commonly known myth of Arachne not only has an attributable origin, but is also a very specific political allegory.
>>94319651"don't piss off those that have power over you" isn't particularly political, I'd wager most people learn it in early childhood
>>94279155They actually drew him lolfinding this guy was one of the funniest things I ever read, I had to do a double take
>>94262166because sometimes risk of venereal disease isn't bad enough and you also wanna risk rabies
>>94272889Nice. Is this still available anywhere / worth reading?
>>94337301should be covered in one of thosehttps://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Pathfinder_Comicsno idea where to pirate them, but /co/ might know
>>94324605>"don't piss off those that have power over you" isn't particularly politicalOnly because we've had centuries of reinforcement on that concept, anon. The idea of a politician being "Draconian" was coined by Greek experiences with a man named Draco.
>>94309928>bimbofication of IshtarIshar was always pretty bimbofied, though. Gilgamesh literally turned her down because she was a slut going around fucking dogs and she flipped the fuck out and asked Daddy to smite him for her
>>94278746>Am I termagante?
>>94280683why
>>94341395>Gilgamesh literally turned her down because she was a slut going around fucking dogsActually it was because she's a slut and her lovers tend to end up dead when she gets bored of them. She also fucks dogs, though. Ishtar fucks anything.But anon's point was that Aphrodite is pretty much just a toned-down Ishtar that only has her "goddess of love" aspect, while the original Ishtar is a psycho bitch who has more divine domains than you can shake a stick at, which does include love but also war, due to beating up and/or fucking other gods and stealing their domains.
>>94341512>Aphrodite is pretty much just a toned-down Ishtar but that is not true, it is just a theory that modern people have.
>>94284383Shub canonically answers a request for knowledge of a spell.So they get something out of it even if we could never understand.
>>94343887It's a plausible theory, of course we have no hard evidence because records from the era are fragmentational at best, but it's a process similar to adaptation of Greek deities into Roman pantheon (for which we have a decent evidence), and it's far more likely than two cultures developing those same parallels independent of each other.
>>94267653Unfortunately moder paizo is abandoning its coomer roots in favor of modern shit-flinging.
>>94285309>Usually it's a coinflip as to whether the eldritch senpai notices youAnd then its a coinflip if getting a their attention was a good idea in the first place.
>>94309928Ishtar didn't become a bimbo, the greeks were as afraid of her in the form of aphrodite as they were Ares.Don't forget that she started the largest and deadliest war in greek mythohistory.
>>94317082Funnily enough, yhwh was also married to a goddess called something like "Anat", who was a precursor to Athena.
>>94309928>>94348554In hostorical context: Ishtar, the goddess of love/sex/beauty, war, and political power is afopted by the phenocians, and then the spartans(who loved war gods).The athians didn't like the idea of a goddess of Love and War at the same time, so actually created a political smear campaign to make her Only a love goddess. Their "Crowning" move on this being the illyad where the author makes aphrodite a weak goddess who zues outright states has no place on the battlesfeild.But the Context for the Illyad fucks that up because Aphrodite started the whole war by offering hellen(a person blessed with her beauty in the first place by aphrodite)to paris. In context, the trojan war is a fight between the trojan's back by Aphrodite vs the greeks back by both t Athena(the goddess of War and strategy) and Hera(the queen of the gods), andbit was a fight the greeks almost Lost(the horse was a final desperate hail-mary).In further context eros/cupid used to be one of the scariest gods in greece, because he was a Primordial(the generation before the Titans) who was stronger than Zeus, because as the god of lust zeus was his Bitch. However, the moment aphrodite arenia touches down in greece, eros is demoted to being her servant-boy and now wears the same wings that are a symbol for ishtar.On top of that, when the romans rise up. Their take on aphrodite/ishtar reclaims the spot as goddess of political power and is codified as The Mother of Rome when virgil penned a third book to the Illyad/odyssey.That's not even getting into the Isis situation.TL;DR: Ishtar's story is one of those thing that makes a good argument for gods being real. Like amercian hospitals accidentally using the symbol of Hermes instead of Asclepius and becoming scams almost instantly
>>94348880Athenians did her dirty
>>94262552...Magna Mater! Magna Mater!...
>>94280683>the writers barely disguised fetish
>>94300026>>94300212She mind whammied Hercules into killing his first wife, and in some versions his kids.
>>94358541The other way around, killing his childen is given, killing his wife varies by version. And he got a dozen or so other wives later no biggie...Also, in context of Greek mythology, he should be called Heracles, Hercules is the Roman nomenclature.
>>94358511way ahead of you >>94262585
>>94262585>>94358511Hot
>>94280683I got a big boner as a kid when some lady gave birth to snakes in X-Files
>>94348880>>94354638that's a fanfiction from redditors.
>>94377648>the voices told me
>>94377648Not quite. We have the recipes. The conversion ofIshtar>astarte>aphrodite arenia>aphrodite is as close as anthropology gets to a case-closed hard fact.Not sure what the fuck anon was getting at with isis though.
>>94262552source?
>>94344445I wonder how Shub feels about the manga depiction. Do they see it as a promo, getting more attention. Or do they get flooded by the metaphysical coom, getting traumatized every time the 'Onee, I am coming' echoes in the void.
>>94264387what if instead of pathfinder it was called freak finder, and instead of fighting monsters and getting treasure, a giant hyena woman forcibly breastfed you (with evil milk)
>>94265698What in the hickory smoked fuck am I looking at here
>>94383977>what if instead of pathfinder it was called freak finder, and instead of fighting monsters and getting treasure, a giant hyena woman forcibly breastfed you (with evil milk)That's just PF 1e.
>>94383981"Disney Princess gone bad"
>>94271531Ironic, given how much of a faggot you are
>>94361939Heracles the guy who killed the lion?That guy was really cool, a good teacher too. Plutarch told me.
>>94379699>have a different unsubstantiated theory than me? You must be insane!
>>94310741One of the supplements for Shadow of the Demon Lord, it's a player option.
>19 daysI want the autosage back so fucking much... at least the board didn't look this dead, forcing shitposters to make new threads
>>94391089YJK
>>94395191>> https://www.4chan.org/janitorapp
>>94391388Yeah, strangling lion with impenerable hide was one (first?) of his Twelve Labors, and he did the Twelve Labors as a penance for his frenzied murders. Greke-roman myths are often connected in some way.
>>94262585/tg/ enters her.
>>94262166system?
>>94402895Pathfinder, retard.
>>94403378I'm kinda surprised they kept her around for 2nd edition, but then her lore has "female empowerment" angle to it, so maybe that's why.
>>94399419speak for yourself
