Jumping the Shark EditionNow with scans of the new booksPSA: Free online PDF rules for the Kill Teams have extremely high-rez images of the modelsPrevious thread: >>94240344>Rules Scanshttps://gofile.io/d/AinK04>Newshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yk1xvxpw/storm-volkus-with-orks-and-ratlings-in-the-latest-kill-team-expansion/>All team rules for KT24 are out:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xfV8vUOg/download-the-kill-team-app-and-faction-rules-today/>Official GW KT app:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamesworkshop.kt3https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kill-team-the-app/id6479447973KT24 is now fully playable.>Key Downloads, FAQs and Erratahttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/kill-team/>Rules and Teamshttps://wahapedia.ru/kill-team2/the-rules/introduction/ (KT21 only for now)https://ktdash.app/>Brief team summaries if you are wondering who to try out nexthttps://files.catbox.moe/ni93d1.png>Homebrew teams by a kind Anon:https://mega.nz/folder/RedyyTTZ#hNv1fp2Yocqg536MozmbyA>Game assistant-database thinghttps://kt.albecortes.com/>Thread QuestionWhy haven't you posted /your guys/ in the thread yet?
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>TQI'm painting them rn
>TQGetting somewhere. These guys are just the team I had on hand to paint. My hunter rat clade team I'm going to flesh out.
>>94273682Still havent assembled Nemesis Claw but have these guys.
I got the Kroot KT (spure only), what else do I need to pick up?
>>94274292They look pretty boring and dull. Maybe create a little more contrast.
>TQThey are unpainted, but are full conversions of old CSM of Word Bearers + Dark Angels, so I'll definately show off when done
>>94274407>mouldline>contrast sloppa applied horribly>thiccck black paint on the rim
>>94274498theyre infiltrators, they arent supposed be a pride flagpost models before you speak faggot
>>94274407Yikes>>94274427Sufficient tabletop quality
>>94274427Clean up those base rims. Otherwise, looking slick.
>TQWorking on them today
>>94274539>arent supposed be a pride flag
>TQBecause my paintjob is really bad.
>>94274539Don't be mad anon, sorry for the honest critic, maybe you should go to other places where you always get positive reviews even if you fucked your models this hard.
>Local scalper having a melty at the FLGS because he won't be able to sell recasts of the Death Guard sorceror for £50 each to rubes anymore.The rare GW dub.
>>94274292>>94275269Shut the fuck up retard, we all saw how you cherrypicked the model with the least contrast to try and prove your dogshit point.
>TQBecause i only just started doing the trim and it fuckin' sucks!
>>94275357>>94275269He didnt pick anything but he's defo right on all accounts. Fuck off to reddit for smoke blown up your arse.
>>94275395Reddit is also full of snarky pieces of shit who think they're painting experts and talk down to better painters at every opportunity. If you think that the highlighted model isn't the model with the least contrast then I suggest you go to either your nearest opticians or your nearest bridge
>>94275438That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying it was me who took that screenshot and it was to highlight your "pride flag" comment as that model looking like a fat dyke. Go take your spakker meds.
>>94274825>>94275461Back to /pol/ before you start shitting up this thread like you did the last one
>>94275461Lol. That was a different guy. I agree with him, but I just think the models are well painted. They do look like bowling balls but that's the sculpt not the paintjob.
>>94275514rofl, that's the thing, they are not badly painted, man is fucking wild for raging against one lads opinion
My models are fine, black coats are cool. I need to repaint the bladekyns face though.
>>94273682>TQI have, plenty of times. Here's an updated group shot of one model from each faction that I've played a fully painted kill team as.
>>94275599>raising the bases with additional plastic for the manlet complex of the midgetsKEK
>>94275599They are
>>94275869It's resin toppers.
>>94275599I think they're pretty cool. The glowy bit is nice to make sure they're not too blank, looks good.>black eyesI'm terrified of screwing up faces and eyes so I've considered doing this, is this something that's satisfying to you as you see them in person?
>>94275921Black eyes look fine on tabletop, also makes them extra grim.
>>94275599How did you make the black stand out so well? Did you dry brush white on? Asking because I have trouble making black stand out on my figures.
>>94275921nta, but I've done it and I like it. Makes me think of Lego minifigs
>>94275921>>94276223though I should add I think the figures I've tried it on have smaller faces than GW minis, so that might well skew how well it works
>>94276158Black primer, dry brushed the whole model with very light grey then went over the coat with VMC Black and express medium 50/50 mix.
>TQMy dudes growing
>>94273682Haven't posted in a while, been busy with University.
>TQquickest and dirtiest
Have we seen any of the Deathguard rules yet beyond the starter set intro stuff?
>>94277444NoThey should go up on warcom when the box releases
>>94276635>Its exactly what I do, I just suck at itJust what I feared. Thank you.
>>94275921I did the black eye thing for my Mordheim dudes. It looks fine on the tabletop, kinda reminds me of Darkest Dungeon.
Compendium team, how are the armaments on the Warriors?I kind of just threw everything together to be diverse, didn't know you could use Warriors in Kill Team, so I didn't build them with any kind of meta in mind. I did read that bringing the 5 Genestealers is a good pick.
>>94273682They're not done yet is why.
>>94273682>>94273724>Gunfighter>LazpistolsEnergy weapons aren't guns, they are poor pretenders to steel and gunpowder
>>94277769Not clear if you aren't aware or if you know and are just running homebrew, but compendium is for KT21 and not really compatible with KT24.
Building my night lord legionaries right now, how does this bat wing backpack look on the anointed? Too much?
>TQSPACE FEDSMiss your Tithe? That's an Arbites Audit. Late on your Tithe? That's an Arbites audit.Don't know what a Tithe is? You best believe that's an Arbites audit.Love me dog, love me shooting in melee, 'ate marines. Simple as.
>>94273682>TQApologies for being a box art scheme pleb, it's my first team. Now hopefully I can find someone to actually play with
I'm having a legionary kill team, and they feel more like a bouncer gang sent in to cave in some skulls, rather than spec-ops "operatives". What team would come close to Spliter Cell-ish Spec-ops team? Preferably not only in style, but also in substance. No xenos. Preferably Humans.
>>94277769>Compendium team
>>94278054Phobos are probably the closest to Splinter CellKasrkin or Exaction Squad are more like playing SWAT
>>94278054Kasrkin? but they don't play similarlyMaybe Phobos? Spliter Cell-ish Spec-ops team is vague
>>94277924Of course it isn't. It's like that dog with the fucking ball>Buy Models?>Oh sure. Where can I play them?>NO PLAY>ONLY BUY
>>94273682>TQBecause they look like shit
>>94278099>>94278089Well, I think about some sort of ghostly stealth operators, which are not as tough up-front, but have evasion and tactical skills which allow them to out-maneuver enemy.Phobos looks close, as I was thinking maybe Space Marine Scouts might be close to what I look for, but not sure about the difference. Need to check rules, I guess. Any other suggestions? Thanks regardless.
>>94278089I want a set of Phobos done up as Alpha Legion.>>94277745is that an actual mod?I'm going to paint and restrip my boys and maybe permanently reassign my burna boy to a regular boy. Any suggestions for color schemes?
>>94278203Holy shit. That's actually a great idea for conversion
>>94277999Those blades are gorgeous, makes me ashamed of my Necrons
>>94278181you're basically describing Corsair Voidscarred word for word, but they're a xenos faction
>>94277931Is this too stupid or the right amount of stupid?
>>94277931I like itAssuming that your playgroup is cool and won't try to claim visibility from the extra wingspan
How do Extraction squad play? I currently play blooded and kasrkin, do they play differently to both those teams or should I think about getting something else
>>94273682what do I paint my justian team up as, I don't want to do them as just my donut steel chaptercurrently leaning towards something between all thesedark krakensemperor's shadowscarcharodonsflesh tearersblack templarsmarines malevolentblood ravenswolfspear
>>94278757Deathwatch.But if you're only considering chapters on the list i'd go black templars or blood ravens
>>94275886That's not a coat, it's a duster
>>94278757Angry Marines
>>94278757Blood Ravens, most of the other choices are cringe or don't fit the models (too broke or melee focused)
>>94275357Didnt see either comment, but whoever says this stuff is the bigger dumbfuck. Your delivery was so shitty that your message was lost.
>>94278181Yaegirs if you can get past the gay stuff (or just buy new heads). Corsair Voidscarred are definitely more raider-y in fluff, but a lot of the individual models fit the sneaky evasive theme you're looking for.I've been thinking about running a Catachan-types as Elucidian Starstriders. The Vietnam-era SOF-types calling in CAS/orbital strikes sounds sick, and every model except the Electro-Maester can easily be subbed and fits perfectly with the flavor. Warrants of Trade become Intel support, and the ploys fit. Only issue is the 4+ to hit indicating non-elite training. If you're willing to put in the work and think that this is as cool of an idea as I do, maybe you'd be interested.Then Phobos is the obvious choice.
>>94278681Exactions main strength is in their close-range shooting and retaliation in melee, so they play pretty differently from both of those
What's the recommended way to build the Corsairs? Best options for the gunners, sniper or dual-swords dude, etc?
>>94275357>>94274292>getting this mad over someones(fair) criticismYou should try some other websites anon.
>>94278681They play very different, really a unique team imo. Friendly operatives can shoot at enemies that are tied up in fight range with somebody else, and many operatives have a lot of ways to stay alive in close combat. They're also shorter ranged than Kasrkin (can't speak about Blooded).
>>94278907leader w/ neuro disruptorwarrior w/ pistol/power weaponheavy gunner w/ wraithcannongunner is tough b/c you can't take both wraithcannon AND blaster, but you probably still build blaster and just don't take heavy gunner except against elites, because it's almost always better to get rid of a specific target w/ blaster's piercing than it is to get an extra shot off (or even two) on targets that are lower-priorityfate dealer vs kurnathi is a tossup imo
>>94278757Mentors, Emperor's Spears, or Angels Eradicant are also options with some pretty nice colour schemes. If I had the time and will to add another SM squad to my collection I'd probably do Emperor's Shadows myself.
>>94277940Love the model, I like your paint scheme more than the box art. Here’s my exaction proxies I painted a few months ago
>>94273682>TQ: I'm shy
>>94279197Don't be, anon. I want to see them
>>94273918Paintjob looks really well executed so far
>>94273682>TQCause I'm extremely lazy and only have 2 of them painted up beyond the halved basecoats
Got the breachers to a point where I could put them on their bases. Now i just have to add the base details that I couldn't do without the mini on them.
>>94279302When you've got to protect the forgeworld at 5 and flip burgers at 6
>>94279316Is GW still selling them? I can't find them in the site.
>the three sided shape is one!>the one sided shape is two!>the four sided shape is three!>the five sided shape is six!What slobbering cockney troglodyte came up with this?
>>94279385when you remember that american measurements were invented by the britbongs
>>94279385It's okay, they got rid of this nonsense.
>>94274427I mean what else do I need to pick up to play the game, I don't have tokens or books n shit
>>94279437Terrain, measuring tape and tokens. Rules can be found online. Hell, you can replace tokens with a notepad or pieces of paper
>>94279385The eldritch shapes are dead now, thank goodness
>>94279385Drooling retards who can't use rulers aren't going to make that connection either.
>>94279380They're being repacked for a price hike. Should be availaable again in the next few weeks.
>>94273682Reposting my rocket launcher dude Ready to launch frag rockets into civilian habs where Orks are probably hiding
>>94279302awesome job on the cloak, is that all freehand?
>>94279581good color choice, but thin your paints
>>94275761I've always loved your Breachers, anon.
>>94278180Very fixable. Don't give up yet.
>>94279323how dare you insult voss prime like this>>94279698thanks ye, yeah all but the long rifler's red sleeve, tried some tamiya masking tape and didn't like the result so the rest will remain freehand
>>94279404In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, there is ONLY IMPERIAL MEASURMENTS>Tau trying to get everyone onto Metric>The Automotive Industry of Man keep blocking them
>>94279745The cell phone camera adds thiccness My layers are Duncan approved
>>94279316These are sick! Any guides you could point to for this style of painting?
>>94280533>The cell phone camera adds thiccnessI don't believe you, take a picture without flash inside your refrigerator
>>94275761I envy your kasrkin. I never get lens glow right.
>>94278757Always blood ravens but paint the weapons as they're from different chapters
Help me decide wether to get hivestorm for myself or not. My friends only play 40k and are not very interested in kill team, I could get a couple games here and there but I'm not counting on it. I want it mostly for painting and hobbying and for the terrain. I do like both teams but the only downside is that they can't be used in any of my 40k armies.
>>94278757>carcharodonsOr you can be based and do them blood ravens. Personally I am going with the "I am building a team"narrative and have them of various chapters such as;Blood Ravens - brother tychusNovamarine - captainSpace Shark - assault marineRaptors - sniperAurora Chapter - heavy bolterrest could be; silver skull, flesh eater, white consuls or something like that.
>>94274816Oh cool, what is your kill team? Later heresy SoH?
I have only finished one kill team this year. and my pile of shame is constantly growingFinished - HirotecNot Finished:-Hand of the archon-Vesepids-Yaeger-Brood Brothers-Gellerpox-Fellgor-Kommandos-Vetguard
Played a game with Kommandos against a friend's Aquillons yesterday, he mined the objective and instantly ran away, thought you'd guys like the pic of his demolitionist hiding in the shadows in took
>>94282254I can't tell what method you're using in the pic but this is a quick MS paint sketch of what I do on all my reflective glass surfaces. Highlights going away from an imagined light source, and the white dot in the opposite corner.>>94279876It's a shame the way they're looking this edition, for my inqy agents I've got every incentive to just bring kasrkin instead and as a standalone team the nerfs to their fun stuff places them at the bottom of my list of teams I want to get to know in the new edition.
For fluff reasons I'm wanting to run a team that features a lot of Servo-skulls, originally I was gonna go for a Chaos team and split the servos as the cultist and my main 'team' as Chaos Marines but that's no longer viable. Looking at the pathfinder team, how many drones can I take and how much will I be gimping myself? I don't care about winning but I do care if it's going to be so easy it won't be fun for the other guy.
so am i reading this right that you can have like 5 attacks with a shooting attack but can only ever roll 3 defence dice? doesn't that mean if you hit all 5 they are guaranteed to take at least 2 damage
>>94284588Yes, it makes damage probabilities much more varied.
>>94284588yes but remember that crits save from two normal hits and cover adds automatical save as well.
>>94284671>crits save from two normal hitsNo, you can save a crit with two normal saves but not the other way around>cover adds automatical save as wellIt doesn't "add" saves, it sets a save to a normal success without rolling it e.g. instead of rolling 3 dice you take one as a normal success and roll the other twoThere are very few cases where if the opponent gets more than 3 hits, you can entirely block the damage.
>>94273682Does anyone have these marines already? I'm curious if it's possible to switch in alternative heads on these guys. I've got my eye on some of the more scarred and nasty heads in the assault intercessors kit to make Marines Malevolent.
>>94284795since they're push-fit, they have L-shaped nibs on the bottom but there shouldn't be any major issues putting on a generic head.
>>94284313>a lot of servo skullsInquisitorial Agents
>>94284313Gellarpox infected has small flyes and fleas good suited for proxying with servoskulls and the other units are kinda something like mutated servitors. Maybe that team would fit your theme.
>TQnot a good painter but since you asked
I've never played KT before, and I've been out of the 40k loop for many editions. I've been thinking of getting into KT because it's one of the few games played at my local FLGS. Any advice for someone looking to get involved? I'm interested in a few different teams, the blooded, ork kommandos and the kasrkins. I still have my old metal storm troopers I could use for kasrkins, but if I remember correctly my special weapons are thin. 3 flamers and a GL iirc without digging them out.
>>94282780That's the plan, using the HH models mostly
Ceaseless: You can re-roll any of your attack dice results ofone result (e.g. results of 2). can someone explain what this means to me please im heavily retarded
>>94285666You roll 1, 1, 2 which fail because you hit on a 3+You can reroll all results of 1, so the 2 dice that rolled 1
>>94285666it's like re-rolls of 1 but you pick the number instead of it defaulting to 1
>>94285510Kasarkin are fine if you want to practice some casual games or play solo but if you want to play in earnest remember you can only run one flamer in their KT. You could run the gattling laser as a hit shot volley gun but you're still short one gunner or a marksman. Your best bet right now would be buy a box of Kommandos (or if you wanna save some money, just buy the sprue off eBay) and play them. They're a simple team that's pretty easy to master and will help you get a good feel of conceal/engaged mechanics.
>>94285510If they play it at you lgs why not ask for a test game and what people there recommend? They would be able to give better advice suited to you, especially on your models. But in general for models the important parts are base sizes and that you can differenciate the specialists. If you say the flamer is a melta or plasma instead it is fine (if you have only one flamer on the field) rest may need some conversion. like giving comms specialist an antenna on the backpack or things like that. On the teams i do not know about recent balance because of the new edition thats somewhat hard to tell but they are generally liked and kommandos are often stated for nicest and most fun teams to play.
>>94283053That's a rad picture.
>>94285666After you rolled your attack dice you pick one number from 1 to 6 (not random, you just chose one) and then you can reroll all dice that schon your chosen number. Usually you chose the number with most failed attack dice.
>>94285686>>94285683ahhh i got it thanks anon
>>94285472anon that looks really good
>>94285510As someone who plays all 3, kasrkin are the most beginner friendly, bur blooded are so much fun
>>94281134Thanks. I guess you could call it the "grimdark" paint style, because everything needs a shill name. I did my NC with a similar approach, but the flourescent pigment really messed with my camera, so here are some KT unrelated DG on whom I tried it first.Plan the coloursheme of the mini out first. Having a split complementary sheme helps a lot I find, but use the complementary colour sparingly. The Breachers are mainly red and orange tones with only a little verdigres as contrast on them, which is in turn far more abundant on the base, to tie it all together.It is mostly quick painting techniques, so I use a zenithal with contrast equivalents and metallics that coat in a single layer, plus a wash for the metallics at least. Gloss coat that and apply an enamel/oil wash, removing most of it and blending a bit. Usually streaking grime or rust streaks, starship grime is good too, for ready made products. The goon's grime ones suck, I bought the green and magenta, and greatly dislike the way they behave compared to the product they are supposed to replace.After wards its a matt coat, so you can paint on the surface properly again. Maybe reastablish some highlights and mess about with stuff.Follow that up by airbrushing in some light. A filter of the sky's colour from above and one from the grounds colour from below. Add OSL effects after that.The part I haven't done on the breachers yet, is to give the materials a fitting varnish. I like a matt finish best, but with the high amount of metal on them, I might have to handbrush on some satin varnish there. Having different finishes on the model is also another way to add contrast.>>94284795Switching the head is trivial, you can glue one onto the torso as normal and just not use the ones on the sprue. Changing the shoulderpads is a pain though.
Does this overrule the restriction against using the same action twice in an activation? In other words, could I dash, shoot, and then dash again if the shoot action kills an operative?
>>94284795>primarishit
blooded chads, any way to get a chieftain and a corpseman from one box or are you fucked?
>>94286327Yes, thats the way I read it
>>94286242thanks anon, i can be very critical of myself when dealing with white
>>94286327I think so, usually a free action still has to play by the usual rules, it's just an action that costs 0APThis specifically says even if its performed an action that prevents it from dashing
>>94286414Yeah you just gotta do some swaps, I however recommend getting a hold of some blackstone fortress minis if you can
>>94287280Paint your models
>>94287300>>94277061Bro I been churnin em
>>94287300how bout you paint yours
>>94287315they're looking good>>94287472I am, got one more blooded to do, but i've been distracted trying to come up with a kommandos skin tone I like
>>94283408They'll get rebalanced. Don't lose faith, friend.
>>94275484You know pol is tg right?
>>94287280>>94277061lookin great anon, im looking forward to posting some of mine once ive got some paint on em
>>94287978Eventually for sure. At least I've got several other teams to try in the meantime.Just sorta feelsbad.
Do we know what the Ratling Kill Team composition is?Like what their specialists are?
>>94278757Dark Krakens are extremely kino, and I rarely meet fans of them at the hobby shops. It would be refreshing to know that somewhere out there someone did a team of them. That was a fun white dwarf. >picrelMy current batch of a WIP Night Lords Legionaries team. This marine is a recent recruit to the warband and created from pilfered geneseed, basically a modern inductii
Opinions on drybrushing? Do people think its a lazy method that looks like shit?
>>94291816It's a tool and it has its uses, mostly on terrain/bases. It is a lazy method that looks like shit when people think they can use it as a lazy method to get out of highlighting a model. People will bring up some youtuber example that looks better than average to defend it while ignoring that 1) said person also knows how to paint well normally, 2) it still has the noticeable drybrush texture and 3) if someone could paint to their level they wouldn't be asking the question in the first place.
>>94291816It has its place. Some things are best done with drybrushing, even when you're not being "lazy." Best examples I can think of are creases with poor but present definition like creases in boots and clothing, uneven and jagged surfaces such as on bases, and highlighting things that otherwise do not lend themselves to being edge highlighted the normal way
>>94291451Negative
>>94291816Like other anons say, it has it's place but you shouldn't use it as a crutch to avoid improving your highlighting and layering skillsI typically use it on furs, terrain and anything I want a more rough texture on instead of a smooth highlight
>>94291816I use it for larger but less important steps because it saves time and energy. I have a limit on how much effort I can put into each model and still achieve a finished team within a reasonable amount of time so it helps a lot for that without costing too much quality-wise.
