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>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
https://mtgcommander.net/

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>how to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/

Thread Question/Prompt: What's your favorite equipment?
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To the guy that wanted giant growth.dek
Xyris
Sovereign whatever
Kutzil
Servant John
I built Finneas as a giant growth deck as well
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Tell us about your decks you took apart: how many, why?
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What are commanders like this?
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>>94286278
I take apart old decks and make new decks like 2 or 3 times a month. Sometimes a deck doesn't hash out like I thought or I don't enjoy it or it's too good or it's too bad.

I just took apart Zinnia Dinosaurs because it did it's thing a few times then started sucking.
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>>94286294
Ziatora
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>*Solves ur archetype*
Post other commanders that are the de-facto best for their respective builds
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>>94286294
The classic
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>>94286294
Brion Stoutarm
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>>94286310
This? It's too costly and slow. Good luck playing it and getting it to stick.
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>>94286294
Wicked, the Whored Mind.
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Everytime I want to order something on TCGplayer now I have to do a dumb fuckin image match and log into my email to get a code to log into my tcgplayer account, is anybody else having this problem? real fuckin annoying, for some reason a password isnt enough now
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>>94286452
>my opponents held removal for my 6 mana commander and not the 18/6 frog running at their face
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>>94286176
Are commanders with >4 cmc ever worth playing? I want to make a deck with picrel but I'm not sure since he's so expensive.
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>>94286663
the commander literally has a payoff for having a board built for him to land on i think that'd be the first tip off that you should focus on playing the game with a gameplan other than "I rush to cast my commander before everyone else"
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>>94286663
He does have the upside that he offers immediate advantage when he enters, since you can play a bunch of demons and then use him to help refill your hand.
That's already probably good enough to be playable, absent anything else. Being higher cmc isn't a big drawback when you need time to establish a board anyway.
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>>94286663
demons are one of the most expensive tribes, but they are really good, being in grixis colors also enable a lot of rituals so you can cast him earlier than you think
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>>94286663
If your commander is less than four to cast, I guarantee you it's gonna cost eight once I'm done with it.
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Is she any good in the command zone? Maybe she's better as an unexpected drop.
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Thoughts on this? No evasion makes it a bit akward, but +10/+10 is such an enourmous boost that you're likely to kill at least one person, and vigilance means you don't have to worry about retaliation
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>>94286968
the vigilance is actually really nice, can be good for a go wide finisher despite how expensive it is
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>>94286897
Better as a drop, you can just run her as a part of a good stuff pile with her just being a troll pick against a token deck.
Also her trigger is a dies trigger so cards like Rayami which replace dying with another action don't cause it to trigger.
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Gay Bolas
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WEEELLLLLLLL
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>>94286968
I like it. Protects against fogs and such and pretty much ensures next turn if they block you'll still have an open board to swing in to.
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>>94286176
I just looked at Duel Commander rules and couldn't find anything about a ban on picrel. Are you telling me that Duel Commander, a much more conservative format, allows dockside meanwhile it's banned in EDH????
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>>94286278
maybe like 6 decks. thinking of taking apart one in the near future
>my first one, sigarda. she was just a pile of bulk because I had no cards and not really fun in the end
>kadena morph precon. it's a fun deck and I had it for a while but the wincon being an alpha strike even with the pickles lock really grew old after a while. also the secondary legendary volrath was more fun anyway and I still have him
>hapatra. not only did she get powercrept hard but again I transformed it to the nu-volrath so it's still kinda a -1/-1 counter deck
>og thassa. tried blue voltron. didn't work out. now I have minn
>yasova. now we get to the reason I mostly take apart decks. I keep finding ways to combine existing deck ideas so rather than having multiple decks with the same idea I make them a single deck with a new legend
>merieke berit. like yasova I had this for a good while and both of them were steal decks so I just made brenard and combined them both
now I have ratadrabik and brenard and they both make tokens via death so I'm thinking if I should take one apart. I'm also tempted to build balloon man and I think I have a problem
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>>94287137
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>>94287201
https://www.mtgdc.info/banned-restricted I don't see it anywhere, wtf
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>>94287201
1 opponent vs 3 so it's not as bad obviously seems to make sense did you think before posting?
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>>94287201
sure, have my reply, bait-kun. someone's gonna answer anyway
duel only has one opponent so it's not as broken
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When will Wizards come out with the new ranking system, I'm tired of assholes saying it's a casual deck and then playing t2/t3 win decks
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>>94287236
When will Wizards revise their new ranking system, I'm tired of assholes saying my casual deck broken for playing armageddon and still losing
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>>94286176
that one
maybe Gilgamesh's Excalibur/Excalipoor in 6 months
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>>94287137
we're so back
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>>94287289
Wizards should ban you for playing armageddon without having a win con with it.
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>>94287137
>>94287213
>noseless faggot wearing a skirt
original art and design of krenko still moggs any modern slop they pump out of him
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will this lil muffin appear in the Foundations Bundle? he appears on the Bundle box but I’ve never bought bundles before and have no idea how it works. does a card appearing on the bundle imply that it’s going to be the promo card inside it?
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>>94287289
how will they revise it? in their own goddamn stream they were like
>yeah we put vamp tutor in t4 but actually cards don't exist in a vacuum so if you put vamp tutor in your t1 deck it's still t1
meaning even they admit determining "power level" is impossible. That's why all they can actually do is create a ban list for the most annoying cards, construct precons to establish the power floor of the format and just tell people to deal with it
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Who's most worth it in the command zone?
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>>94287406
That makes it sound like it's some sort of cumulative ranking, where you'd need multiple cards of a certain tier to make the whole deck that tier.
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>>94287422
the general sentiment was your true deck power level is determined by its ability to win efficiently and consistently
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What are some truly unhinged targets for this card? Either to disrupt a combo or to combo with
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>The Stolen Child
>Fantasy epic directed by MtG artist Seb Mckinnon

McKino is back on the menu boys!
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>>94287433
changing their island into a plains OHHOHOHOHOHHAAAAHAAHAAAAA now that... now that is unhinged!!! only i could think of something so dark and twisted....
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>>94287416
>To Win
Kaalia or Godo
>For Fun
Baba
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>>94287416
Baba Lysaga goated card here
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>>94287109
He looks like a bottom.
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>>94287406
the og article said a card with a single tier 4 card is a tier 4 deck. I know it doesn't make a lick of sense because of what you said and the revision should address these things
but try as they might. I think the whole tier system is going to evolve through community more than anything and will propably end up being a strict banlist for people who want to play in a certain tier
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>>94287601
I look forward to telling people in my pod to fuck off with rhystic, armageddon, etc
I was already telling someone yesterday that I think straight tutors in general kind of suck for the format.
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>>94287626
What are your thoughts on gay tutors?
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>>94287626
I agree with non-basic tutoring. it just baffles me why people would think something like rhystic or armageddon would be anywhere near some cards that actually win the game instantly and put them in the same tier
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>>94287652
armageddon just arbitrarily extends the game (or you're working around it which is also kind of a shitter thing) and rhystic is less so about its power level and moreso about it being fucking annoying
Obviously you want some sort of direction for your deck but I think the direct intentionality of straight tutors like diabolic etc (at least for casual pods who gives a shit about cedh) is kind of against the point.
Communes, fixing, etc I think are fine though
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>>94287680
I think the problem with the ranking system was that they named it the "power" bracket when it really should be the salt bracket looking at the cards we have there now
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>>94287637
all tutors are gay tutors
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>>94287709
Demonic tutor is as straight as a tutor can get. Can't actually think of any straighter tutor.
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>>94287736
2 is a very fruity mana cost
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>>94287652
Having tier 4 be high-power and tier 3 be high-salt would make at least a bit more sense.
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>>94286350
I'd rather play Marina vendrell
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>>94287736
>as straight as a tutor can get
Wrong. Creatures WILL be impregnated by me
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>>94287737
I feel like the spacing is JUST too much to make it work.
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>>94286663
In some rare cases. Usually if they are partner commanders
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>>94286663
Yes fuck sakes this general is retarded
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>>94286663
Nemata is still great
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Cant wait to add new Koma to my Kiora deck
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>>94287137
HE AINT MY BOY BUT THE BROTHER IS HEAVY
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>>94287389
Why do some of you fanboy over this characters nose? Why is that important to you
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>94287814
instead of going for the obvious changes (blacks, women, and ugly) they go for schizo nonsense that's easily disproven
who knows why
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>>94287737
like credits to a movie
as in
it's over
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>>94287389
Ahem.
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>Swordbro posts a cool deck
>everyone seethes
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>>94287814
yeah I'm waiting for the iconic blue goblins too lmao
oh, wait..
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>>94287416
Only one of those I've played is Liesa, forgotten archangel. She was fun but I'm a degenerate who was using her to loop plaguecrafters which might not be your thing.
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>>94287859
?
mizzix and electromancer are pretty popular
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>>94287814
I just think it's lame that they're removing design elements that used to be key to their look like this. Goblins look weird and have big noses. It's a weird exaggerated feature intended to be part of their feel of being weird, ugly, creepy, or funny depending on the intent of the goblin being designed. A lot of them just look like green people now. Which isn't as fun. Still, all things considered I wouldn't say this new Krenko is that bad. There are worse goblins.
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>>94287814
it is a very obvious design on his original card, he looks absolutely nothing like his original appearance in any of his new versions or new art
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>>94287737
Is there one of these with double strike yet?
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>>94287885
This is literally green under a blue light. Mizzix is also green still
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>>94287885
good bait
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>>94287895
anon goblins are literally the least consistent creature type in the entire game
they're fucking monkeys on ixalan and they were weird furry midgets in tarkir
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>>94287904
One of what
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>>94287905
there are literally blue "goblins" on ixalan tho
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>>94287416
Stout is a shitty Henzie go for Minsc
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>>94287914
Yeah, and on Ravnica they've got big noses. It'd be weird if we went back to Tarkir or Ixalan and all of the goblins were just completely bald.
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>>94287936
>It'd be weird if we went back to Tarkir or Ixalan and all of the goblins were just completely bald.
Oh no ugin fucked up the timeline again after bolas got horny.
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>>94287922
Cool.... those aren't the ones he brought up?
>your examples are wrong
>ermmmmmm but elsewhere!!
I don't care. I'm responding to what is posted
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>>94287944
>Get proven wrong and still try to be a smug asshole about it
yep that's edh for you
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I'm still mad about the blue gobbos. and I will be mad about the lack of their noses just the same
LEAVE GOBLIN DESIGN ALONE
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post your fav goblin art
>no blue gobliggers allowed
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Ban mana crypt in vintage
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if anything this isnt blue, its skin tone is more so a greyish human color under blue light
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Straight Bolas
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>>94287941
God I wish just imagine Ugin pounding Bolas so hard he loses control of his magic and makes the dragons even more dominant on the plane.
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Fourty (40) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
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>>94287895
You must hate the anime goblins then, right? Or are you one of those hypocritical weebs?
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Is Kibo playable or hot garbage in the command zone?
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>>94287961
What was i proven wrong about? Electromancer and Mizzix are green. That is my only claim here, if you want to be right, be right from the get go and don't cry when your original argument is disproven
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>>94285375
What's it like being a true, genuine retard? So stupid that you actually defy reality itself to support someone you don't know for no reason?
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>>94287902
Let's be honest. It's because retards equate large noses to Jews and think that removing that from a fictional race is appeasing the jews
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>>94288070
That's subtle, I'd let it slide until it became a problem
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>>94288070
He is one of the most popular commanders in those colors, anon
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>>94288070
Bananas should have the food subtype
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>>94288089
>deck features discard
>ifnir pays off discard
>this is bad somehow
Anon I am not going to argue with you about tripfags or anything else. I genuinely think the merit to Ifnir in that deck is set in stone and makes a fair amount of sense.
>Declare attack
>Loot
>reward is crippling every other creature on the board in a combat deck
>the first discard kills every mana dork in a 3 mile radius
>guaranteed discard every single turn
>has discard outlets like Call the Bloodline, Blood Tokens, Tortured Existence, Connive, and flipwalker Teferi
I'm not saying it's the best-in-slot primo big dick choice but it's a perfectly serviceable card that will likely see use and alter games at bare minimum. And if the game isn't going well, cycle it away and reanimate it later. I will not continue to reply to your retarded bullshit so please don't even @ me.
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>>94288103
>be jew
>see goblin
>a vile backstabbing war mongering smelly violent sociopath with immense tribalism ideals that once given any ounce of power immediately abuses to subjugate other races
>immediately think its antisemetic
sounds more like a problem with jews to me
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>>94287803
GAVE AWAY MY POSSESSIONS
AND MOVE INTO A CHEVY
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>>94288165
But you're the one who thinks it is anti semitic? Are you retarded?
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>>94287999
never
mono white initiative and aggro shops are based
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>>94288089
Hating tripfags shouldn't make you retarded anon ^.^
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>>94288183
nigger if i thought it was anti semetic theyd be wearing tiny hats have curly jew hair and run all the banks and media, think before you reply you fucking retard scum
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>>94288197
But you just said Jews thought it was anti semitic? Where did you get that from?
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>brand new green enchantment from bloomburrow, has raccoon token generation
>"Oh sweet a new card for Bell-"
>3 mana cost
Why
WHY
BUT SIMIC GETS A PERFECTLY TIER 0 CARD IN KOSMAS 2!?!?!?!?!
BLATANT FUCKING FAVORITISM
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>>94288316
It's always been this way, calm down
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>>94288316
>koma
Is this bait or are you just really bad at the game?
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>>94288233
anon why are they changing the goblins
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Is Henge kill on sight?
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>>94288772
It's not a creature, so you can't kill it
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is this legal as a commander duo or what
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>>94288772
if it resolves it's actually too late since they can break even on mana and gain 2 life so counter on sight would be more accurate
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>>94288778
No.
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>>94287433
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>>94288787
Okay, have a nice day anon
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>>94288777
I know you're being cute but I'm baffled at how many people just do not interact with artifacts/enchantments even if they're in the right colors for it.
The most I see is a Farewell, but never like an Abrade or Disenchant.
Someone will throw out a Wrath of God because there is one 6/6 on the board, but won't even blink at two different mana doubling artifacts/enchantments.
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>>94288807
that might be because
you know
I don't always have it!
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>>94288816
It's not a matter of not having it at the time, it's a matter of not including it in the deck at all.
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>>94288807
An all time classic
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>>94288778
god some of the UB crossovers make me so fucking mad, they really put that young sheldon looking motherfucker in the game
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>>94288850
40k was based, the rest were cringe.
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>>94288858
Everything is cringe except the things you like, right?
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>>94288144
>if a card even tangentially works it's good
i hope you look back on this post someday with shame
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>>94288869
Yes
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>>94288858
Wrong
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>>94288878
and this is why we don't tolerate UB
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Do you pay the 1?
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>>94288887
So you won't play UB cards at all? Even legitimately good ones?
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>>94288316
>koma
>good
LOL
idk how you deluded niggas can cry about koma when etali exists
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>>94288891
>guy at the table always plays rhystic and has insane card draw in all his decks
>add consecrated sphinx
>resolve consecrated sphinx
>he scoops as soon as he sees it and calls it unfair
LOL
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>>94288858
This except Doctor Who
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>>94288850
Honest question: How many times have you seen him played in a game of magic? I'm going to bet 0.
Most would just use the Universe Within version, because it costs many magnitudes less. You'd only see this against some genuine stranger things fan. Some of you whine about UB, but it's cards you will never see at all, and primarily exist as novelty.
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>>94288986
I mean, that'll be true until half of all sets are UB.
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>>94288931
>Etali
Far easier to deal with, and also doesn't fuck you over as directly. Etali can't tap down my 3 plains. Nor can he dodge removal. Also 6 power vs constantly making 3/3's
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>>94288316
>make the card cheaper, therefore more efficient and more powerful
>at least one retard spergs out about it
Amazing.
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>>94288902
I will not. Even if they printed the perfect card for my favorite deck, one that would make it play more smoothly and more enjoyably, I would not slot it in until it had a Universes Within version,
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Anyway, here's a card you will see forever.
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>>94288891
Nigga do you pay the 4?
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>>94288778
I mean they're not the same name I don't see why not
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>>94289042
Meh
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>>94288891
Sure, but I'm swinging for 10 poison counters
GG ez, shitstic study crutch user
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>>94288778
>>94288787
Why wouldn't this be viable? They have different names and Friends Forever is open ended.
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>>94289042
Wasn't expecting a power crept Damnation but here we are
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>>94289068
Because they're considered the same card. Othelm has the =SLD 346, indicating equivalency with SLD 346, which is Mike.
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>>94289042
>of their choice
Why does that phrase exist on this card? It just should say "each player sacrifices thirteen creatures"
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>>94289042
>A bunch of villagers having a party with skelebro
>Blasphemy
Skeletons really are an oppressed race
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>>94289078
Seems to just be a wording change with Foundations. Unclear if it's forever, or just for that set to help newer players.
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>>94289078
>*looks down at my board of 20 squirrel tokens, chatterfang, squirrel sovereign, thornvault forager, and squirrel mob*
Erm... awkward!
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>>94289076
Wow, that's fucking stupid. They created the subname thing specifically to avoid confusion like this, and then they didn't use it.
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>>94289105
Yeah, it's sort of 'retroactively there' for Universes Within stuff like this. Othelm is the "real name", despite coming later.
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>>94289001
that will take a long time considering there were like 96+ sets before they did UB sets
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>>94289042
Eh. won't help vs the token deck with 18 saprolings out, that it can easily replenish. I don't see this as an upgrade to other removal. Saccing is nice, but sometimes destroy all is better.
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>>94289134
It kills indestructible things and bypasses the usual protection that sacrifice fodder provides because the number is so big
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this thing made me draw so many cards in my token deck. nobody ever wants to block 1/1 deathtouch creatures
end of game, my library was down to <20 and there was no mill player in the pod
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>>94288167
VAAAN YEAH IT'S THE MASTER PLAN
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>>94289198
also, this thing is my new favorite tactical board wipe
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>>94289076
Magic is fucking cooked.
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>>94286968
Pros:
>It's funny
>vigilance prevents crackbacks
Cons:
>name doesn't really fit a finisher
>not a being a creature really matters in green

Overall I like it, might try it out in Seton
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>>94289105
>>94289068
>>94288778
now i want lore showing all the innistrad friends forever legends being bros
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>>94289222
Whenever I slot it in a deck, it's always a card I end up cutting. It's good to fuck with token users because you can cast it for x=0, but I've generally got an enchantment at 2-3-4 I'd really rather not have destroyed. Always seems a little too much destructive for yourself in proportion to how much you hurt others.
Though I guess if you go full Golgari, things hitting the graveyard is more of a convenience more than anything.
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>>94289113
Othelm should have gotten the subname if it came second.
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>>94289175
It has a use. Pretending it is objectively superior is simply wrong
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>>94287433
Pic related is pretty rad in my Sol'Kanar deck
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>>94289301
>objectively superior
You said "I don't see this as an upgrade to other removal" and I said that it was good and useful. It costs one mana whenever there are enough creatures to make you want a board wipe, and that's enough to give it consideration. Even in your example, killing 13 creatures and leaving them with 5 is a big setback.
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>>94289262
I guess Rayami could make good use of it since you'd just kill everything under his CMC and then swing in with a flying, deathtouch, lifelink, whatever other keywords you manage to pick up.
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Unban Mana Crypt
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>>94289364
not now, not ever.
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>>94288070
He hoses tryhards and goes very fast.
His only issue is lack of trample natively
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>>94289351
See
>>94289072
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>>94289105
Copyright is one of the worst systems in effect in the world. It should be fully abolished
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>>94289351
I just made infinite zombies. How does this help you?
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>>94289268
Fuck you, no, it's the one that's actually a Magic card.
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Unban it
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>>94289426
Fair enough, I would compare it to Barter in Blood before Damnation, but costing one mana is a huge advantage over either.
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>>94289450
UB cards are magic cards. They are in standard now, even.
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>>94289443
That's like saying my Damnation is bad because you have Blightsteel Colossus.
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>>94289450
Then they should have made the real card first. Unfortunately, WotC is shortsighted and incompetent, so Mike is the original card. Othelm is the alternate universe version of Mike, not the other way around.
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>>94286968
>sorcerysorceey
Kills it.
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Anyone else gonna buy the foundation deck builder box? It looks like it's going to be full of commander playable stuff instead of standard which is silly but I'll take it
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I bought a box of dominaria remastered
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>>94289555
Nice trips
I remember the deckbuilder's toolkit back in the day being a decent product, this seems similar. If it's not overpriced I might pick it up. What's msrp?
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Anyone remember this?
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>>94289594
I've stopped running this is any decks. Doesn't tap for mana and your opponent chooses which creature fights. I've never had this be useful.
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>>94289594
No but I remember this

Also this card is five dollars? I swear I had a stack of them holding up my lopsided desk wtf
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>>94289500
Yes, it is bad in that situation. No one said the new card is bad. Just that it isn't power creep of damnation
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>another zimone card
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>>94286452
Let me teach you about insurance fraud.
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>>94289685
She needs to get impregnated by the elf and quickly, that way she can stop appearing on cards.
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>>94289105
They legally cannot. Law trumps making sense. The entire reason we have these UQ shit is to reprint these cards that will be unprintable again due to copyright law. You can't put the stranger things name on that card or it would need a license just like the regular card did. It is stupid but necessitated by stupid laws. Even if they got permission, it would only be temporary.
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How do I abuse these two handsome studs?
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>>94289042
>amazing art
>extremely powerful effect
>black
yep, instant classic staple
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>>94289723
ziatora
orfeo fling
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>>94289723
traverse the outlands, overwhelming stampede, shit like that
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>>94289778
Neither of those are in Golgari and you'd need to be retarded to think I meant "in the 99" and not as my commander.
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>>94286663
Be’lakor’s fun, he’s for demon tribal anyways so you should have cost reducers like Urza’s incubator or Herald of Slaanesh
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>>94289042
*BANG BANG*
>CAM ON INGLAND
*BANG BANG*
>SAC SOME FACKIN CREATURES
*BANG BANG*
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>>94289496
Nah, fuck you.
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>>94289809
I dont know what you're mad at me for. Its Wizards who made this decision.
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>>94289586
draft it with buddies and post pulls fag

on the topic of universes within, would anybody be into a full sort of “universes beyond remastered” set done with all new universes within versions? I feel like it’s the only reasonable way for them to catch up even remotely on those
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>>94289042
This drummer skeleton is right out of a boomer tshirt.
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>>94290053
I've thought about the same thing. Don't think it could happen though. As a draftable set it would be a mechanical nightmare with no synergy, and Beyond Boosters are a complete flop.
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>>94287463
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>>94289789
it's a "in the 99" creature tho
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>>94289789
>UBslop enjoying dipshit asking how to abuse a Vanilla creature calling anyone retarded.
Pottery
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How good is an elf deck in today's meta?
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>>94290286
One of the best decks I've ever seen had this very version, was creatureless, stax lite, super fucking interactive and a pleasure to battle against.
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>>94290286
Elves are one of the tribals that are pretty much always strong as hell. Elves and silvers are decks I don't like playing against, pretty much ever
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anyone else run the noobtube?
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>>94290409
6 mana and two turns to deal 1 damage? that seems too trash to even be run as dumb fun
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>>94289042
>The party’s not dead just because I am!

I want this on a playmat
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>>94290495
Lol this was my exact reaction until I reread it. It goes away at the *end of turn* which means you generate a ton of mana and then go HAM with it
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>>94290409
That is Wood Elemental levels of shit
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>>94290510
ahhh. Yeah, sure, that pushes it up to the level of dumb fun.
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>>94290510
>>94290511
It's an infinite outlet dumbass
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>>94286176
Welp, just decided on the face commander for my simic deck. It's Vorel, because fuck this 'smug science niglet' trope to hell and back
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>>94288165
>Leftie sees orc
>A stupid brute that prowls the land in hordes murdering and stealing from everyone they come across
>Immediately think of blacks
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>>94290053
I'll be saving it for vacation in a couple months, but I will
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>>94290610
>That flavor text
I love when really stupid people try to write smart people
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>>94290286
Jesper should have all of his art equipment taken away for that migu
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post irl decks
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>>94290664
Some of the dumbest, cringiest bullshit. Made 100x worse when it's little kids that're 1000IQ supergeniuses
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What decks you running in ya boy planktons box?
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>>94290610
The amount of legendries they print is stupid but the amount of the same character they make is retarded.
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>>94290740
saw the ad for the TMNT ones, and these shits cost 2.5 times as a regular one
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Pulled him from a pack. Is it possible to make a lower power deck with him?
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>>94290821
literally no, he's so incredibly busted and the value is so high that it's impossible
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>>94290821
In theory yes, but the well has been poisoned for years and unless you have a tight friend group that you play with they're going to assume you're lying.
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>>94290821
Only if you intentionally build the deck to not have any synergy with him and at that point why use him at all.
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>>94290610
they are pushing this character so fucking hard, this bitch has gotten THREE printings within 2 sets
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>>94289623
I think original timespiral was the last time this card got printed, one reprint at UC and this shit is a bulk uncommon
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>>94290409
I had it in ghyrson for funsies
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>>94290821
No. Everyone should recognize the kind of value you're getting and immediately focus you. Run Sek'Kuar, Kresh even the shittier version of Korvold.
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>>94290821
Sure, just have him be the only card in the deck that lets you sacrifice anything. No treasure, no fetches, no Steve. Nothing but Jund goodstuff. But not too good.
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>>94290740
cursed images
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>>94290053
>on the topic of universes within, would anybody be into a full sort of “universes beyond remastered” set done with all new universes within versions? I feel like it’s the only reasonable way for them to catch up even remotely on those
UW was only ever a promise for secret lairs, they never said anything about doing it for mini-sets, edh decks, or full sets
that being said, that would be a (comparatively) easy set for them to make, only thing you need is art and some guy to make up characters, all the mechanics are done
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>>94291079
>UW was only ever a promise for secret lairs, they never said anything about doing it for mini-sets, edh decks, or full sets
A promise they also discontinued
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>>94290675
Jesper is a good artist generally but yea he fucked up miku's face super hard
which is sad since it's the best card (for me), might pay a friend a few bucks to fix the face.
>>94290286
it's fine enough in my pod but "metas" are 100% player dependent
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>>94291097
WotC already doesn't reprint 99% of cards especially if they're expensive for god knows what reason.
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>>94291041
is this REAL?
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>>94291255
as real as you and me so maybe fake
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>>94291230
Yes, but them reprinting other cards was not promised. They quietly shuttered the whole "Reprint mechanically unique cards onto the list" shit. They did SF, Walking dead and stranger things and then just said fuck it. The list was removed with bloomburrow, and we have nearly 2 year old lair-exclusive cards still waiting for reprints.
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>>94291309
The List was so fucking stupid but they can just shove them into Special Guests or whatever it's called now right
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>>94291328
They should be able to, but last time Maro was asked he said they were "looking for a place to put these reprints."
Which is corporate speak for "don't expect this in the next few years."
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Do you think Swordbro's decks actually work irl?
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Best monowhite commander/decklist?
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>>94291512
Heliod stax is probably the "best" mono white list, but stax isn't everyone's cup of tea.
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>>94291511
real answer: yes, probably okay since he builds decent decks
answer i want to giv: shut the fuck up about the tripfag shut up
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>>94291512
Oswald is pretty strong for obvious reasons. If you just want to have fun though, I would recommend Beza, the Bounding Spring.
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>>94291512
darien + soul sisters effects, if theyre gonna hit you they better hit to kill
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>>94291512
Giada
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>>94287137
>krenko looks completely different in each new card.
wtf?
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>>94288058
Yes, of course I do. They are the main offenders of the green people complaint.
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>>94287416
Man I hate Samut's art, but the effect is one I would really like as a commander.
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>>94288316
Sometimes just one more or less mana cost can really make or break a card.
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>>94288891
No, never.
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>>94287416
>Kaalia, Shroud of dusk, Godo
You will draw a lot of hate no matter how you build them.
>Baba, Ziatora, Forgotten Archangel
These are good for more casual tables.
>Brion
Ziatora is better.
>Samut
I think the deck is too fragile.
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>>94290053
I'm sure there would be people into that for the reprints alone. But Wizard's has already said they weren't going to do that so it's sunk. If what they've said is still true, only the secret lair universe beyond cards are getting the universes within. Eventually maybe we'll see the Marvel ones like Ironman and Wolverine and the other three in universe, but the actual set is not a guarantee and by what they've said seems like it may just not happen. Shame since I would like some new art for the Doctor Who cards since I don't care about that series but like a lot of the mechanics.
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>>94290930
Why is she being pushed so hard anyway? I had thought having a Kellan multiple sets in a row was strange but even he didn't appear twice in the same one.
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>>94292016
Kellan was the main character for a year, intentionally
I think the nigress is their attempt at a strong black womyn after everyone immediately got sick of kaya showing up on every plane
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>>94287842
slop
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Any fun strats for the new mermaid waifu that isn't just Lab Maniac or Thoracle? I've got a stack of Disturb, Unearth, Embalm, Escape and Flashback, as well as Abandoned Sarcophagus to cast cycling spells from the grave.

What else do I got to play with?
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>>94286350
>no blue
>no black
I don't like it anon...
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>>94292016
Wokeness. She's a diversity hire
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>>94292068
I mean she's a flashback and friends commander so do that instead of labman
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>>94286350
Anal slut
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>>94290610
Wotc thought process on creating this character.
>hmmmm we need a strong black woman who isn't violent.
>okay, we will make her a super genius.
>hmmmm can't give her straight hair because that'd be racist.
>okay, we will give her a big ol afro
>hmmmm, she can't be ugly but she can't be too pretty.
>okay, we will make her barely average
and give her glasses. This will also make her look smart.
>man we are so progressive. We are good people :^)
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>>94289202
DRIVE INTO THE WOODS
AND EAT CORN OUT THE CAN
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>>94286350
>de-facto best
Not so sure about that
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>>94292153
It's more like
>We hit our diversity quota
>please give us DEI loan so we can give ourselves bonuses
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>>94292012
Oh that could actually go in my Krarkashima deck
I just threw out ROE Kozilek and Ulamog and I needed something to replace them
Already replaced one with Tasha’s hideous laughter
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Thinking esper enchantment control, do I go with Oloro, Zur, or some partners like Tymna-Esior?
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>>94292012
Gee they sure are printing a lot of Commander cards in this set that's going to be the "foundation" of standard for the coming five years
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>>94292302
You'd be surprised at how much 2HG play gets done at LGS.
Most of my LGS actually switched over to it during OGW and never went back.
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>>94291041
>>94291307
jesus christ it's like some villain cursed the characters into toys. kinda reminds me of toribash where people drew custom graphics on their fighter
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>>94292295
Which Zur? Zur the Enchanter is very strong, but you'll get a lot of hate for him. Eternal Schemer is pretty weak.
Oloro's life gain and draw is nice, but he doesn't really do much for the theme. I'd probably play Tymna-Esior before Oloro if I just want straight value.
If you don't mind taking other people's cards, you could play Saruman or Eriette.
Master of Keys is cool if you have a graveyard subtheme. Gy hate will make you cry though.
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>>94292326
>jesus christ it's like some villain cursed the characters into toys. kinda reminds me of toribash where people drew custom graphics on their fighter
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>>94290664
This has to be some of the worst flavor text we've gotten in a LONG fucking time.
>wow gosh look guys gee wizz i'm so smart :^)
I hate it so fucking much.
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>>94292386
This is still retarded but at least it's not nonsense technobabble from rick and morty
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>>94292409
It might as fucking well be, though.
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>>94292409
That's basically been Zimone's flavour-text thing from the start, sadly. She's not even that bad in the story, all things considered (a bit 'generic smart character' but nothing annoying), but flavour text has to get across the worst parts of every character it seems. Also, yeah, this makes Zimone's 5th card if you count Zimone and Dina, which feels absurd as a number so quickly.
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>>94292415
yea it's definitely not good
the lemur/e joke was kind of funny but they had to ruin it with the "Last words" shit
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>>94291041
Reminds of cubed Taimanin stuff.
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>>94292386
Why does she look so weird here? She doesn't always look this off.
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>>94292460
Artistic variance is a bitch, and sometimes artists just don't do certain characters well for whatever reason. This artist just seems to have problems doing smiles.
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>>94286897
If you insist playing her as commander I suppose you could play her with bunch of small creatures with good on death effects. She's not really a big, flashy finisher or a piece of an engine, tho - just an emergency button that may combo off with some of your cards if build properly.
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>>94292491
Well, open-mouth smiles at least. Zul Ashur looks well enough.
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>>94287842
He looks like he and his army rape elvish women.
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>>94290053
>full sort of “universes beyond remastered” set done with all new universes within versions?
It is my sincere hope that they eventually do something like that, since it would unlock a lot of cards currently trapped behind the slopwall, but they wouldn’t be able to fit them all in a single set at this point, and they’d probably need to glue it together with some non-UB reprints, so it’d need to be a once-every-few-years thing in order to eventually clear the backlog.
It’d probably be called something like “Universal Masters”, though, rather than “Remastered”.
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>>94290759
>>94290930
>>94292016
They needed a new token black character to rotate between Kaya and Vivien in place of Teferi since his cards give everyone war of the spark ptsd. It's interesting that I didn't particularly hate Kaya or Vivien until they started popping up in EVERY set 1v1ing praetors and whatnot, whereas I hated Zimone since her first printing on account of how annoying the black child prodigy character is.
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>>94288778
No.
Some of the cards that previously were exclusive to UBshit/Lairshit and got reprinted with Magic-flavor put into them have number above artist's name telling you what UB/Lairshit card they are.

Yeah, it's fucking gay but so this entire game.
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>>94292386
I hate this character, it's the most repulsive social justice slop garbage in the entire game.
>Geee, a black, ugly, autistic girl that is actually a fucken genus.
Literally we all know that person responsible for her is some white spoiled bimbo with inferiority complex.
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>>94292016
They wanted strixhaven to be the kid drawing plane and they want the young black girl market(because white dudes already bought in). Yes this is stupid as it sounds
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>>94291511
>Coram
Yes
>Sidar
Probably not if you saw the garbage he was including yesterday
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>>94291512
I've been liking Odric.
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>>94292603
Sidar is way stronger than Coram, anon
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>>94292626
>basic obvious information
>being intentionally retarded
His Sidar DECK is worse than his Coram DECK
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>>94292534
Now that I think about it, if people went into Duskmourn to save Nashi, why send the black kid who’s good at math instead of the chick whose whole gimmick is killing ghosts
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>>94292712
You see, Kaya couldn't be there because... Shut up. Also, to be fair, they didn't know what exactly was up with the place, just that it seemed like a weird house. The monsters weren't known beforehand.
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>>94292712
Niv is trying to kill zimone
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>>94292663
Yes and we's saying the sidar deck is stronger ^.^
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>>94292769
Except it obviously isn't. It's a jumbled mess.
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>>94292775
No... it's really not. I'm betting you're the guy who cried about Archfiend despite the deck being filled with discard
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>>94292797
Anon, take his dick out of your mouth. Archfiend has no payoff, and his choice of creatures and mechanics are disjointed and don't synergize well. His curve is terrible and he lacks reasonable ramp. Reanimation is hyper reliant on Sidar himself so a few removal spells break the deck down entirely.
It's a noob trap deck built by a bad player, at least Coram is cohesive and capable of combos and combat with enough recursion to make it work.
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>>94292838
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I KNEW IT LMAO. Archfiend as a baseline makes all your opponents 1 weaker at combat. Kills the majority of creature tokes and mana dorks etc. Im not going further because multiple different people explained to you why you were wrong and you're still going at it lmfao
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>>94292852
>paying 5 mana for a do nothing creature that requires additional input to kill Llanowar Elves
This is not as defensible as you're trying to make it sound
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>>94292852
>I samefagged a lot so I dont have to explain my position
Put your trip back on
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>>94290409
This card is strictly better.
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>>94292852
>>94292838
>ramp
Ahahahaha I love bad players trying to talk about the game. Ramping is never necessary in edh
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>>94292865
Paying 5 mana do you can cripple your opponents board at minimum once a turn is indeed good. Not to mention his deck is full of discard and can probably go off 2 or 3 maybe even 4 times a turn also
>ramp good (and necessary lmao)
>killing mana bad
Sensing some inconsistencies here anon!
>>94292878
This is just sad
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>>94292893
>dying before you play cards is good??
>>94292898
>killing mana bad
Where did I say this? I'm saying that spending that much mana and still needing to input more just to kill things like Llanowar Elves is extremely weak. There were like 3 discard outlets in the entire deck and the curve starts at 3-4 in a deck meant to be creature focused. That severely limits multicasting and makes the deck frail to repeatable removal.
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>>94292916
>anon continues to lie and be mad so he can pretend he had a partial view towards the tripfag
Very said and transparent anon
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>>94292952
>ur mad
>0 counterargument
Concession accepted
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>arrive at friend's table
>bro 1 proceeds to unironically forget his wincon
>bro 2 decides to keep a 2 land hand without any ramp or draw and does nothing for 5 turns
>bro 3 drops half his board and library on the ground and proceeds to scoop
>win by default
>"gg anon!"
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>>94286278
I had a Sek'kuar deck I took apart because it had a shitty win rate, which I removed the red from to make a Meren deck that was too good, which I removed the Green from to make a Yawgmoth deck which I still play to this day.
I had a Riku of two reflections deck that was too good, so I removed the red from it and turned into a Kruphix deck which was also too good, so I retired the entire deck.
I had an Otrimi mutate deck I took apart because there wasn't enough mutate cards that I liked, I'll probably rebuild it if and when we get more mutate cards.
I had a Roon, Mayael, and Azami decks I took apart because I built them terribly.
I had a Lavinia CeDH deck I recently took apart because it was terrible to play against and didn't have a very good win rate.
There's probably more but that's all I can remember off the top of my head.
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This Coram versus Sidar conversation you're having is retarded. Obviously Coram is stronger. The dude is able to fucking kill someone turn 3. Sidar is just a fun knight tribal deck that also happens to care about the graveyard.
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>>94292995
>forget his wincon
As in he forgot what it was, or that he had a card in mind but forgot to put it in, or forgot to put a wincon in it altogether?
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>>94293070
>tl;dr
their discussing two decks made by a tripfag where one is pretty well made and the other is just timmy shit despite being 4 times the price



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