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Thread Question: How dead is Star Wars on the scale from 9 to 11?
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>>94314178
>TQ
About 6, imo.
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>>94314310
>tavira goes full pirate
Kino.
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What is the general feel about the X-Wing Alliance project trying to keep XWM alive?
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God I love wookieepedia autists.
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>>94314759
I like XWA. It feels great to finally be able to play the Separatists without automatically losing. Getting new toys for my Scum and Empire also felt good.

The whole balance shake up was sorely needed, lists like 3x ARCs or 5x X-wings were pure cancer. I am somewhat cautious about their ability to actually keep the game alive though. X-wing has a huge supply issue, some kits are becoming insanely hard to get. I imagine they'll eventually have to get some sort of 3D printing operation going.
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>>94314827
I remember browsing wookipedia for hours in the 2000s while at elementary school
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>>94314843
There is already a shitload of good STL files on sites like thingyverse. The only piece that i think will be hard to replicate will be the dials.
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help me visualize how people fight with Form 7, like Ataru its flips and weaboo fightan magic, Form 5 its big dick swings, Niman its dying like a bitch, but Form 7 no idea.
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>>94317078
Form 7 is 'attack so often and so quickly it's like you have 8 arms all holding their own lightsaber'.
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>>94314178
>tfw will never ever ever fly around in a comfy space ship in the outer regions exploring planets with my dlt 19 blaster
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>>94315592
Fair enough.
I guess it would be cool to get stuff like the Ginivex, the Umbaran Fighter or the Havoc Marauder.
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>>94299463
>he thinks it's only one anon
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The /ss/ miralian enjoyer is easily the best thing to come out of the shit show that was Rebels.
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>>94320212
>Inquisitors
>good
Pick one Dave
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>>94320212
Nah, Inquisitors are fucking stupid, just on principle. The only good thing to come out of Rebels was Ben Kenobi vs Maul duel. Ahsoka vs Vader duel was also great, but was ruined with time travel, ergo everything with them in that show is automatically shit. Rebels is really fucking shit, and it's insane just how much dickriding it gets by retarded zoomers these days. I really fucking despise this show. And I despise that it started the cringe gay ass "found family" obsession trope, and we can't have anything else in Star Wars anymore ever since then.
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>>94320553
It was 10 years old the other day apparently, so people have probably actually grown up with this garbage. My friend was saying most star wars fans now that haven't clocked out prefer the animated shows over the films and I'm starting to wonder if there is truth to that
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>>94320434
>best
>good
Different things.
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>>94320578
Most of the Star Wars films are shit, but Rebels is even worse.
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>>94317605
>Didney Wars
You don't deserve to explore the outer regions.
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>>94320578
The animated shows were at least somewhat enjoyable, even if tehy had some stupid parts. (Inquisitors are 'we desperately need red lightsabers in this shit, what do we do?')
The only good movie Disney made was Rogue One, and that one was probably good by accident.
Live action TV shows were one and a half sasons of mando and one season of Andor that was good, teh rest is varying degrees of dogshit.
And yes, it's hilarious that a Chinese sweatshop-made animation like Rebels is more enjoyable than movies and TV shows that cost hundreds of millions.

Pic vaguely related, one of the few good things in SW live action.
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>>94320753
Rogue One only looked good and had good action. Characters are all shallow, bland, forgettable and one-dimensional. Story is fucking stupid and makes no sense. The only reason anyone even remembers that movie is for the Darth Vader hallway scene - which was unapologetically retarded, gratuitous and self-indulging. And that scene doesn't work at all with the original Star Wars movie.
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>>94320753
>And yes, it's hilarious that a Chinese sweatshop-made animation like Rebels is more enjoyable than movies and TV shows that cost hundreds of millions.
Corporative bureaucracy is greedy as government, Cannot hire good director, or camera-guy if you have to pay salary for all managers and diversity advisors.
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>>94320801
>Rogue One only looked good and had good action. Characters are all shallow, bland, forgettable and one-dimensional. Story is fucking stupid and makes no sense. The only reason anyone even remembers that movie is for the Darth Vader hallway scene - which was unapologetically retarded, gratuitous and self-indulging. And that scene doesn't work at all with the original Star Wars movie.
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>>94320992
What are you onto, retard? That dimwit in your picture worships that movie and probably lost liters of semen jerking off to that terrible Darth Vader scene. Rogue One is a shit movie.
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>>94320801
>Characters are all shallow, bland, forgettable and one-dimensional.
Yeah because OT and PT characters were so complicated....
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>>94320801
The best part is the space battle over Scarrif, even if the ramming part was dumb.

Jyn Erzo is way too passive as a character, yeah. You could argue she is a good stand-in for the trilions of people who just don't give a fuck as long as they get by.
Her change of mind is too abrupt and comes off as jarring, which is probably due to re-writes and re-shoots.
Cassian Andor is the character with agency, or at least the one who is more active and decisive.

All in all, I think it would have been better from a storytelling point of view to turn it into four mini-arcs of two to four episode in a TV series.
But they were in teh process of firing all teh actually good writers around that time, so I guess we got lucky it didn't turn into complete shit like the ST.
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>>94321005
>that terrible Darth Vader scene. Rogue One is a shit movie.
It's actually a pretty good movie, and the one Vader scene is a bit cheesy but it beats all the other memberberries Disney vomited out by a mile.
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>>94321171
>It's actually a pretty good movie
No, it's not. Terrible fucking movie. Barely a movie, really. More of a videogame cutscene with terrible pacing. No characters to care about - all shallow and boring one-dimensional bunch of fucking retards. Garbage copycat Williams knockoff music. Abhorrent CGI Tarkin and Leia. Ruined Darth Vader. The "story" is utterly retarded nonsense that never had to exist in the first place. It attempts to fix a "plothole" from a 1977 movie, which was never a plothole to begin with. The entire plot of assassinating Mads Mikkelsen for some reason is nonsensical and retarded. I really can't fathom how can anyone think this dogshit is even passable. You are low IQ.

>and the one Vader scene is a bit cheesy but it beats all the other memberberries Disney vomited out by a mile.
No, it's not. It makes no sense. It doesn't fit with the opening of A New Hope. You are low IQ.
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Rogue One is retarded shit for dimwits. If you think this slop is good, you are automatically a retard with zero taste.
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>>94321207
I hope you enjoy the rest of Disney Star Wars, it must be right down your alley.
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>>94321247
Case in point. Low IQ dimwit. I don't enjoy *any* of the Disney Star Wars. *ALL* of the Disney Star Wars is bad.

I hope one day you'll stop defaulting to false dichotomy and other logical fallacies. But that's impossible, since you're a low IQ dimwit.
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Rogue One is kick-ass, it reminds me of Guns of Navarrone mixed with New Hope
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>>94321194
>No, it's not. Terrible fucking movie. Barely a movie, really. More of a videogame cutscene with terrible pacing.
You are repeating yourself
>Ruined Darth Vader.
How so?
>It doesn't fit with the opening of A New Hope.
But does fit the Empire Strikes Back ideas as much as possible,
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>>94320578
Tbh aside from the OT the animated stuff has generally been better than films. The Clone Wars isn't perfect but it still ends up being better than the prequel films due to actually having the time to develop characters and show off the themes Lucas wanted to tell, as opposed to having to speedrun Anakin's career in two films and having most of the actual war occur offscreen. Some of the Visions stuff was also great. Tales and Rebels were mediocre, but still better than Disney's live-action stuff aside from Andor and 1st season of Mando (admittedly, being better than Disney's live-action SW is a very low bar to clear).
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>>94321272
Then please enlighten us dimwits, show us what is good.
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>>94321207
>The best Star Wars movie of teh past two decades is retarded shit for dimwits.
You sound bitter and upset. Wanna talk about it?
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Fuck Star Wars.
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>>94321207
That is honestly incredibly cringe, yeah. I think people are just eager to defend Rogue One as the least bad out of a terrible collection of films.
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>>94321639
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>>94320553
So do they just not know how helicopters work? What retarsd are making these things these days?
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>>94320553
NTA, but I assume the point wasn't whether it's good in lore sense, but that hot darkside alien /ss/ mommy is hot.
That lightsaber helicopter scene cracks me up, though. It's just so ridiculous.
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>>94321960
We already had a much cooler dark side alien /ss/ mommy.
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In the Force & Destiny Core Rulebook, on page 107, when acquiring gear, it mentions both in a text and a sidebar that you can lower you morality in order to get more credits, but when I look it up the referenced pages (pg. ~49), it says nothing about lowering your Morality for Credits anywhere, and the Errata says nothing about any of this, either.

Am I having a fucking stroke here?
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>>94321928
Yes, Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie of teh past two decades, even if you imply it is not good.

You still seem bitter.
Do talk about it, we're here to listen.
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>>94323776
>still
You confuse me with someone else.

But yes, let's just be clear; Rogue One is shit, and being the best out of a horrible batch is not something laudable or ever necessarily positive. A turd in a sea of shit is still a turd, whether it floats or not.

That said, I am bitter, as all Star Wars appreciators should be, post-Didney.
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>>94324211
Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie in the past four decades.
You're just a sad, pathetic loser who wants to look cool on the internet, and in the end, just make yourself look even worse.
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>>94320553
Just so everyone's clear, I think the concept of spinning sabers is based, but that letting you generate lift that way is cringe.
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>>94320801
>>94321161
I'm with this anon. Jyn being a charisma vacuum is the worst part of the film, but she's good enough to get us from setpiece to setpiece, and the side characters are entertaining. I also enjoy the raid on Eadu, small infiltration team marking targets for X-Wings to drop out of hyperspace and bomb, then zip away. All in the dark, in the rain, for maximum aesthetic mood. Great stuff.
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>>94321283
I dig that.

On that subject, what other WWII adventure flicks would you like to see made into SW films? For me, it's Where Eagles Dare. I'm obsessed with that movie for some reason.
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>>94323749
The sidebar on 107 seems to still be accurate, just the main text is wonky. I assume that they originally designed it around everyone being light-siders such that having low Morality would be a penalty worth taking in exchange for an XP bonus but then it got reworked and they forgot to update the reference to the new ruleset.

I would've said that it looks like a copy/paste error from Age of Rebellion, but for some reason AoR is the only one of the three core books where step 9 doesn't have the starting credits reminder text or sidebar.
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I think Mandalorians are cooler than Clone troopers and both are cooler than Stormtroopers, and rebel soldiers are the lamest
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>>94326239
Generally agree, but no Mandalorian look is as good as the ARF. I cannot come up with something sexier than this.
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>>94326239
Mandalorians deserve only genocide.
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>>94326530
nah Mandalorian super commandos with the jetpacks look better
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>>94326570
It's a good look, I agree, but for me, there's just something about that visor+fin combo on the ARF helmet that makes it superb.
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>>94326239
>>94326570
Death Watch hands typed this. You are just mad that the Clones do your whole armour shtick but better.
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>>94317605
i just wanna be a tie bomber pilot hulling rebel corvettes and frigates with space bombs. and glassing their bases.
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>>94327020
still think X-Wing pilots are cooler, they're like the coolest rebels
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>>94320598

Almost every time I think about this franchise I end up saying to myself something to the effect of, "This crap would be so good if it was good."
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>>94314178
>Thread Question: How dead is Star Wars on the scale from 9 to 11?

I was still a kid when the 2008 Clone Wars started. Despite that, as a former EU autist, I'm increasingly inclined to say that the show pushed it up to an 8 from the 4 or 5 it was at post-Episode III. The show retconned just about everything it touched, which was a lot. And this was adding on to the existing continuity weirdness the prequels created.

Back in 2009, Karen Traviss published a novel, "Clone Wars: No Prisoners" where Ahsoka and Rex meet Gilad Pellaeon and some of the characters from her Republic Commando books. It's downright surreal to read interactions between characters who, in my mind, might as well be from three separate continuities.

Getting back to the question, I'll rate it a 14. If 90% of the Disney+ content hadn't shit the bed, it would probably be more like a 7.
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Clonefags on suicide watch
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>>94325562
It's just such a glaring thing that I'm surprised isn't fixed in the errata - you'd find it by just going through the character creation process, which presumably most people do. But yeah, I think you're right.

I also suspect that they didn't copy EotE->AoR->FaD, but went EotE->AoR and then EotE->FaD, once it had been decided that EotE would be the blueprint for the other two games, they were probably both forked right off.
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>>94324211
>That said, I am bitter, as all Star Wars appreciators should be, post-Didney.
But why? Mandalorian, Ashoka, Acolyte are so much in tune with RoTJ,
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Gonna play my first game of Shatterpoint on Wednesday. I was thinking about goofy lists and this was the one I came up with, homie has everything. I don't really know what kind of nonsense I created. What am I in for?
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>>94328138
>>94324293
Poor bait. I get that you're trying to drum up freakouts to give the thread CPR, but such things just tend to end up killing them.

>>94328145
At this I'm starting to think that Lando's the one on contract.
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>>94328138
it's somewhat funny as mando and ahsoka could be great shows if they had competent directors and writers. (season 1 of mando was alright.)

lucas carried filoni in tcw.
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>>94328145
Nice Bespin list.
I'd say you'll probably want to reserve Vader to make sure he can kill something whenever he activates, though from what I see you might have troubles moving Vader around outside of his activation.
I'd say Boba, Bossk and Lando synergize well enough with each other and Empire units.
You'll probably want to focus on taking as many objectives as possible while killing support or secondary units, while Lando and Boba use their abilities to shit condition tokens on primaries to help Vader get kills.
>>94327822
What are the expected changes?
+10 points for Commandos, ARC and Anakin I'd say, which will probably be too heavy-handed. They might also nerf B2 a bit, these guys are amazing for corps.
Units with Scout and Recon Intel might also catch a nerf.
What could go down in points?
STAPS, Rebel and Imperial Corps, B1s.
Maybe all the Prepared Positions units since they are kind of overcosted.
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>>94328475
Tbh, even if the unholy trinity of GAR all get nerfed, they still have some great units and strategies that aren't being used. For one, it's the Saber tank that throws 8 + 2 + 2 dice attacks at range 4. Two, the AT-RTs with red sabes that block LOS.

Though my predictions are:
>OpLuke buffs
>Ewok nerfs
>heavy ARC, Commando, Anakin nerfs
>General Empire buffs, especially for the riot control squad, range troopers and inquisitors
>AMG doing a GW and nerfing the sleeper cell right after release
>buffs to Prepared positions units - especially shores and rebel veterans
>nerfs to separatist repair bots
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>>94328556
>>94328475
Oh yeah, also general buffs to all speeders (STAPs, BARCs, Swoops, Imperial speeders). Nobody uses them.
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>>94327311
as i've gotten older and after the prequels, the empire is the best for the galaxy; the rebels/republic will objectively cause more harm than the empire.

hence, tie bomber pilot over a b-wing pilot (i was a massive b-wing nerd, and rebels dropped the ball on that one with its not-super laser. we see the b-wing fire its cannons in rotj, and they're regular blasters; muh prototype doesn't cut it, as you can tell filoni didn't realize you can see them shooting in rotj).
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>>94326239
Nah, clone troopers are the coolest.
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I'd fuck them. Anyone else? Like corrective hate fuck.
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>>94328363
>it's somewhat funny
It's not funny, it's just sad. Honestly most of the post-Didney acquisition stuff COULD have been great (not including the sequel trilogy, it's fundamentally flawed in concept at its core), but it's just not.

>>94328634
Wrong. EU and Legends is more canon than Didney will ever be.
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>>94328659
Maybe with better hairstyles.
Filoni just had to give them the absolute worst of zoomer haircuts...
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>>94328680
Still would. Especially the one on the right. Like how else would they make money in the Coruscant Underworld? That's right. The red lights district.
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>>94328660
>EU and Legends is more canon than Didney will ever be.
They're about the same: licensed fanfiction.
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>>94328701
>licensed
Canonicity is decided by people, not legal documents. I am willing to count the original creator of a body of works as authorative, but the second he's out of the picture, it is left to us to decide what is canon, and most of Legend is, and all of Didney isn't.
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>>94328922
>Canonicity is decided by people
No. That's not how it works. You are a delusional retard. As if there was any doubt, judging by the way you type.
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>>94328660
>EU and Legends is more canon than Didney will ever be.
i agree simply because lucasfilm was fine with anything that didn't overrule canon.
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>>94328659
Hell no.
Both because >>94328680 shitty hair styles and >>94328696 used goods.
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>>94329220
>muh used goods
I guess you will not want to fuck a Twi'lek if that's the case. Well, that's your loss.
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Btw, Jesus Christ, who's taking care of the OP links and pastes? Viluppo has been dead since somewhere between the 28th of January to the 6th of March... 2020.

The Star Wars Roleplaying Games pastebin needs to be updated with a link to the Wayback archive.
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>>94328985
>NOOOOO LEAVE THE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALOOONE IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG STOP BULLYING IIIIIIIIT
The irony of an illiterate and autistic mongoloid calling others delusional must be the peak irony.

>>94328659
Absolutely not under any circumstances. They are completely off-putting. Corrective hatefucking is for wayward women that could still look good if they got pulled up from whatever ails them. There's no saving whoever these two are.

>>94329026
I wouldn't say it like that, because it was still canon, but yeah, they had a hierarchy of canonicity founded in the word of the creator, which is honestly the only sensible way to do it.
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>>94328475
Sounds like a gameplan, thank you anon
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>>94328659
made for pyke rape dungeons
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>>94329637
Canonically true.
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Canonically why are Niman users so bad that most Jedi that used that form died in the Clone Wars?
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>>94328619
Empire is just all that wrong with the Republic but worse (although with cool uniforms). Sure, they got rid of the corrupt senators by turning the senate into a rubber stamp, but they just replaced them with equally corrupt moffs. At leant the Republic didn't land a Star Destroyer on you if you protested against the government.
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>>94324961
Kelly Heroes, because opportunistic raid at a bank for the riches inside is the most classic war thing.
You could have that even with some Separatist changing sides, even a "captured" Munificent-class could get him renown in Republic if he'd pretend to be their officer, given access to Separatist Shadow Feed, but a Lucrehulk treasure ship would be something to raid and steal from. And then use the funds later to buy parts of Hoersch-Kessel Drive's shipyards after the war, to have their private ship construction.
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>>94329842
To begin with, it was intended as a balanced and more relaxed form that was developed as a form of self-defence rather than a primary method of conflict resolution. The philosophy is that other forms that emphasise more aggressive styles or the importance of the lightsaber encourage Jedi to resolve conflicting their lightsabers, rather than diplomatically. So Niman practitioners are mostly just diplomats and philosophers who see the lightsaber as a tool for defending themselves rather than resolving issues.

This means that it has a relatively low skill ceiling and that practitioners aren't really encouraged to practise very often, since Niman treats the lightsaber as a last resort if you must defend yourself, rather than an important part of being a Jedi and resolving conflict.

So when you drop a bunch of diplomatic "violence is not the answer" Jedi who have been caught a more casual and relaxed form that is focused on self-defence into a war zone where the only form of conflict resolution is killing your enemies before they kill you, those Jedi are probably going to get slaughtered while the more martial knights who use their lightsabers more often and practise more aggressive forms with higher skill ceilings more regularly are going to thrive.

Niman works best when it's just one of the tools in a Jedi's roster and not the sole method of self-defence that they fall back on when they've got no other choice.
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Lightsaber forms are fucking dogshit lore. It trivializes Star Wars into this super defined, autistic RPG stat guide cheat sheet.
>NUUUH UHHHHHHHH, MY CHARACTER BEATS YOURS, BECAUSE FORM 69 BEATS FORM 1488 FOREVER AND ALWAYS!
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>>94330218
Just use Skywalker cave man strength form.
It beats everything.
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>>94330218
>frogposter is retarded
many such cases
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>>94330280
Never reply to him, always ignore him.
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>>94330218
It's basically just a way of declaring how different Jedi approach combat, it's not autistic unless you make it autistic. It boils down to:
>Practice makes perfect. Training is everything. He who puts in the most work always wins.
>All you need to do to win a fight is land a single hit in the right place.
>Defending yourself from the enemy's attacks is more important than attacking the enemy.
>Strike first, strike fast, strike hard. Waiting is death, offence is the best defence.
>Endure, then retaliate. Wait for an opening. The best attack is a counterattack.
>Fighting isn't everything, all you need to know is how to defend yourself when you must.
>Never stop attacking. Your enemy will have no choice but to defend and will eventually crumble.
It's that simple, in the end.
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>>94330392
Combat outcome should always be determined by the story, character arcs, emotional state of the characters involved and themes. Not some established RPG rule set of arbitrarily defined """forms.""" What I am saying is, it is incredibly obnoxious when dumb retarded star wars lore fanboys barge in and try to explain the reason for Obi-Wan not beating Dooku, for example, being that "Dooku's form was superior and a perfect counter to Obi-Wan's form." It is just so lame, so trivialized, so reductive, so anti-art, so anti-story. It is boring. It is unbelievably infantile. It's like when retarded kids argue whose character is the strongest one, constantly one upping one another. It says nothing. It doesn't engage with the narrative on any meaningful level. But that is to be expected from the majority of Star Wars fans.
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>>94315337
Ditto. I hand hand written lists of articles I wanted to search. From there my love of fictional worlds in the form of reference book articles began
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>>94328363
>tcw
>great show
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>>94330469
>Combat outcome should always be determined by the story, character arcs, emotional state of the characters involved and themes.
So, you're not fond of any sort of Star Wars game at all, as those will also take statistics, player skill and/or luck into consideration?
>What I am saying is, it is incredibly obnoxious when dumb retarded star wars lore fanboys barge in and try to explain the reason for Obi-Wan not beating Dooku, for example, being that "Dooku's form was superior and a perfect counter to Obi-Wan's form."
I disagree. When you boil down the forms to how different perspectives that Jedi have regarding combat, then the form that a Jedi says a lot about their character.
In this example, Obi-Wan is an altruistic guy who puts helping others and saving lives before victory. It makes sense that he would choose a more defensive form, focused on deflecting attacks and saving lives rather than inflicting damage. Meanwhile, Dooku is a bit of an egotist and enjoys being able to demonstrate his grace and superiority by felling a foe with a single strike, hence his choice of a duellist's form, a style of fighting that allows him to flex his finesse for all to see.
So in this case, you're pitting someone who is a heroic protector against someone who is a storied duellist, in a duel. Taking these approaches to combat into consideration, it's internally consistent and makes sense that Obi-Wan would lose such an encounter, even if it also serves that narrative.

It's not autistic as long as you don't make it autistic. It's just a simple as determining how different Jedi fight and why they fight in those particular ways, then contrasting them against each other.
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>>94330218
I think the idea of "lightsaber forms" is fundamentally fine. It doesn't really rustle my jimmies either way, but it's FINE as such. The problem is that they're referred to as completely discrete forms, numbered 1 through whatever, with a level of retarded granular autism.

If it was just about training forms and combat styles, taught to padawans and younglings as part of their general lightsaber combat studies, and something you're not meant to or intended to stick to as some kind of idiotic moveset rather than moving from one to the other, that'd be perfectly reasonable. But no, some autist had to go and be autistic about it.

>>94330469
>Combat outcome should be determined by "character arcs" and "themes".
Please, I beg of you, autoeuthanize.
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>>94330654
This shitty art looks like AI slop. You should feel bad for posting it.
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>>94330731
That's not A.I Slop, this is A.I slop.
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>>94330392
>Training is everything. He who puts in the most work always wins.
This is not even remotely true
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>>94330392
>Practice makes perfect. Training is everything. He who puts in the most work always wins.
Based Shii-Cho.
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The idea of lightsaber forms is fine. It's clearly based on different Japanese schools of swordfighting, which fits the Jedi being heavily inspired by samurai, and when you have different styles of fighting some are naturally going to match better of worse against specific ones.
But a lot of nerds tend to have a very reductive "rock, paper, scissors" approach to the forms, where character A would automatically beat character B because he uses a form that's a hard counter to B's form. In reality, having trained in a style of fighting that matches well against your opponent's style is just one piece of the puzzle. A more skilled opponent will likely beat a less skilled one even when using a style that's theoretically at a disadvantage due to having a better understanding on both styles strengths and weaknesses and ability to exploit them, and the environment the fight takes place in is also going to play a major part (a style focused on mobility is going to be less useful if fighting in a narrow corridor where there's no room to maneuver).
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>X-Wings actually aren't good and are flawed because they're expensive
Do X-Wings have an actual flaws?
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>>94327020
>tie bomber
a stationary rebel base is likely to outmaneuver you
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>>94331665
Being mortal to unshielded regular ass TIE-fighters.
Everyone seems to forget how few fighters made it back from the battle of Yavin.
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>>94330592
Dooku had nice fight against Obi-Wan and Anakin duo in one of the episodes, where he was fighting in a way that forced the two Jedi fight in complete opposition to their own fighting styles, forcing Anakin on defensive and putting Obi-Wan in a situation where he has to be the one attacking.
All 3 of them were also showing some elements of the style used by Qui-Gon, who was Dooku's student and teacher of Obi-Wan. Which was also the style used by Yoda, who in turn was Dooku's master.
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>>94330654
>The problem is that they're referred to as completely discrete forms, numbered 1 through whatever, with a level of retarded granular autism.
But the numbers makes sense if you think about them as when each of them were developed and why they were developed.
Take them also as philosophy on the approach towards combat.
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>>94330045
Sounds based, and I enjoyed Kelly's Heroes too so it's definitely watchable.
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>>94330971
It's the Shii-Cho philosophy though. More than any other style, it's got the biggest rift between average practitioners and the true masters of the form.
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>>94330731
>This shitty art looks like AI slop.
It's not and it doesn't.
>You should feel bad for posting it.
And yet I'm not and I won't.

>>94332296
This is an example of the autism concerned.
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>>94331665
>Do X-Wings have an actual flaws?
1) Ever looming threat of picrelated invention
2) Very questionable nature of Fighter and Attacker hybrid
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>>94330809
I'll allow it.
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The Legion changes:
>charge/steady/relentless can no longer trigger from thing like Guidance.
>recon intel up to 8, as it was messing with the action economy
>empire changes: only the medical droid went up to 22
>rebel changes: jedi Luke down 10 points to 165, medical droid went up to 20
>Republic: Anakin up to 170 points, ARCs up to 64, ARC strikes up to 26, clone commandos up to 90(!), Delta Squad do 105, Yoda down to 170, Clone commander upgrade up to 30, clone medic up to 20, BARC guns down
>Separatist changes: PK droids up to 22, defense and attack protocol up to 8, engagement protocol down to 3
My poor, poor repair bots. But, I'll take it, as the republic got their ass beat throroughly.
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>>94337544
>Viper droids went up to 9 points
>Backup is now applied before the cover roll
>charge/steady/renetless only work during a unit's activation
>secret mission changes - you only score the VP at the end of the next turn after you entered the enemy deployment
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>>94335173
>This is an example of the autism concerned.
Up till Form III it makes perfect sense, anything after that is debatable in regards to chronology of development.
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>>94335173
>Sorceres
Her Force powers seem to be rather modest in size.
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>>94336046
Strike Fighters seem to work out pretty well in the real world, especially if its carrier based.
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https://youtu.be/pfvymem8SiA?si=XFAxqqGgFRWSoYJk
>Stormtroopers given autoinjectors loaded with spice to make them not have any moral conscience in combat.
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>>94338387
Wacky science projects are great as both an adventure wildcard and ready source of moral abyss for a villain to plum.
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where should I look for inspiration for a heavy blaster pistol? I want something that looks like an oversized blaster pistol, something not German.
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>>94338337
>Strike Fighters seem to work out pretty well in the real world,
Only if they have sufficient technological curve over enemy, quantity&production capabilities to maintain it and well organised pilot training system.
Rebels have only last part
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>>94339009
Here, have my OC heavy blaster pistol from a few years ago.
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>>94339028
this some cut down Mosin Nagant?
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>>94339050
The general shape was based on a photo of an old wheel-lock pistol.
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>>94339064
a little too antique for me, but at least its better than that dumbshit brick with a grip look that blaster pistols from Clone Wars and Rebels have going on
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>>94339159
Well, if you want a pistol that would be a contemporary of the C96 that formed the basis of Han's heavy blaster, there's always the Mars pistol. Basically a late-Victorian era version of a Desert Eagle.
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>>94339013
You are complaining about core genre stuff. Only the mooks get killed by point defense to show how dangerous the situation is just like only mooks can't survive dozens of people with semi auto carbines shooting at them in the open.
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>>94339355
these mfers look retarded.
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>>94328634
absolutely scathing. thank you anon.
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>>94339885
Me when I start my first day as a special ed teacher
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>>94320553
>And I despise that it started the cringe gay ass "found family" obsession trope
Might as well admit you're underage if you're acting like that's a new thing
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>>94337544
Remember when Luke was 200 points and pretty the best hero in the game? Pepperidge farm remembers
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>>94326239
You don't know about SpecForce and it shows.
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>>94321088
The OT characters were very rich.
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>>94340015
Even as a separatist player, I agree with the meme.
Force users are fun when they can do weird things, like with Vader's suppression nuke, or Luke's I am a jedi.
Anakin's OP and boring, he basically just boils down to "roll red dice with pierce 3 and hope for the best"
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>>94339355
these mfers look cool as fuck
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>>94339355
Awful design. Generic and uninspired. Looks more like some off-brand WH40k unit. EU was a mistake.
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>>94339355
Stop posting that sort of kino around here, you're upsetting the secondaries.
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EUfags are secondaries by definition. Tetriaries even.
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>>94339355
The only thing Jabiim deserves is turbolaser bombardment.
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>>94339355
Ngl, I would love to get these for Legion. Maybe as a special forces option with repair and capacity 1
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>>94340737
>EUfags are secondaries by definition.
Good, none wants to be associated with /co/
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>Hmm, do I want to head to /tg/ for the outraged ranting of TROONSCALEanon, the endless Primarch shitflinging, and a nice big shit sandwich of pro/anti-EU dribblers; OR do I want to go to literally any other board for endless Orange Man Good/Bad?
>*loads revolver*

I miss when you could just chat shit on the internet without all this fucking drama about even the tiniest things.
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>>94340737
Secondaries refer to people who don't engage with the "primary" material, i.e. people who've never played 40k but read BL books and watch youtube lore videos. Pretty much everybody who cares about the SW EU are fans of the films (i.e. the primary material) who want to read further stories set in the SW universe or learn more about how stuff in the universe works.
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>>94330392
...these contradict each other in ways you'd have to be mentally stunted to miss.
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>>94342797
That's the point.
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>>94335173
Ahh, deliciosly flat. And seem rather tall as well, would be wonderful if she turn out to be taller than 2m.
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>>94340737
Literally the opposite. EU/Legends canon is a direct continuation of primary material, for better or worse, approved either directly or by proxy by the original creators as long as it does not conflict with primary sources, whereas Didney Wars is bad fanfics as a whole, created and maintained by a committee of people with no connection or interest in Star Wars.

>>94321088
You confuse "complicated" with complex and compelling. And yes, OT characters were in faact highly compelling, and consistently hint at complex underlying characters without needless overexposition. It's literally part of why they're considered cinematic masterpieces.
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>>94342933
>flat
Yes.
>Tall
What is wrong with you?
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>>94314178
>TQ
99. It went from biggest franchise in the world to "I can't stand this shit anymore".
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how do you make rebel soldiers cool?
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>>94343800
SpecForce marines.
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>>94343845
looks too much like a Stormtrooper
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>>94343863
Stormtroopers aren't cool all of a sudden?
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>>94343800
Make them disparate. Limit uniform to a particular symbol or colour, as well as cheap arms and armour that they might have acquired. They're rebels, they shouldn't have access to a military industrial complex to provide them with a strict and official uniform. They use whatever they can get their hands on.

Droids, aliens and humans, all with vastly different aesthetics and equipment, only unified by the orange armbands that they wear or the splashes of orange paint on their chassis.

Rogue One came close to the mark, it just went too far on the individuality and should've had that splash of colour or symbolism to unify the rebel cast.
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>>94343800
Read the old WEG Cracken books.
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>>94343800
make alot of them weird aliens
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>>94343800
First, take the helmet off
Second, and this is very important, touch the fulpa. Trust me kid.
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>>94321207
I remember I went to watch it after a 12 hour overnight flight where I couldn't sleep much and it felt like a fever dream. I was expecting I napped a few times and missed large portions of the plot but no, the beginning in just such a jumbled mess. 20 minutes of jumping between completely unrelated planets and characters with no rhyme or reason, kinda like the Sorcerer but with none of the great characterization. All that followed by the most boring, no stakes battle in the history of cinema. I could have forgiven Force Awakens but Rogue One just broke me. I've never paid for anything Star Wars after that.
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Is Rey more powerful than Luke?
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>>94321207
I liked the X-Wings scenes
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>>94344160
Discanon Luke? Totally.
EU Luke? Not even close.
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>>94343800
Showcase them as the taliban that we all know them to be. Full-on Breivik rooftop Korean vietcong multiclass.
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>>94343800
Watch Rogue One.
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>>94343075
>What is wrong with you?
I am not attacted to kids nor midgets.
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>>94345340
Ur a faget,
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>>94343863
They should. Stormtroopers look the way they do for a reason. It might make for a bad film aesthetic (although not anywhere nearly as bad as >>94343949 >>94345336) but rebels absolutely *should* reappropriate stormtrooper armor and equipment, and their special forces *should* absolutely wear full-body armor.
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>>94345438
>they need to look like the retarded EU oc-do-not-steal troops or they're le bad!
lmao
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>>94345438
Agreed. Why shouldn't they appropriate Imperial gear?
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>>94345364
Cope, femlet.
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>>94342524
I legitimately blame phones, honestly. Having internet at the literal tips of your fingers sounds good in theory, but to me it feels like it's formatted for quick 100 character/short form rather than having a real discussion with paragraphs and the time to properly think out your opinion, as people sometimes do while sitting at their home computer.
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>>94345469
>need
Retard.

>>94345475
Exactly. Reappropriating gear is a fundamental part of guerilla and resistance warfare. Even during the rebellion's terrorist phase, they should've be stockpiling what's available, which would largely have been old republic and imperial gear.

When the rebellion exploded, there should've been entire irregular squads wearing mismatched repainted plastoid clone/stormtrooper armor and the like. And this is completely ignoring the fact that the rebel alliance elite forces would likely be populated entirely by ex-career soldiers, veterans, defectors, and the like. The idea that they'd not use professional equipment that would be comparable to the regular imperial elite (not counting one-off special-project stuff, obviously) is simply idiotic.
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>>94345475
They should until they become the New Republic, then they shouldn't. Early NR I could see using things like ISDs, but they'd want to distance themselves as much as possible. Starships aren't just hulls of metal in Star Wars, they symbolize something.
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>>94345643
Most of the stuff the Rebellion is using is repurposed Coreward PDF gear. The Empire nationalized the PDFs, and their gear fell into Rebel hands. It just so happens that symbolically, it fits with the appearance of the Rebellion. There's no reason to use Stormtrooper gear, because the armor they have isn't really any worse.

Army Troopers were the mid-point between Stormtroopers and PDFs, so when the Army Troopers started getting Imperialized, I figure their gear would've gone towards the Rebellion as well.
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>>94345643
To be fair, the Rebels are already in a weird place as far as gear goes. Their go-to strike weapon in the X-Wing, a design built off a stolen prototype that they have an apparently inexhaustible supply of. This despite relying on nearly 30-year old variants of the Y-Wing as well.

It would be like, in the fight to overthrow Qaddafi, the Libyans hadn't just been receiving American air support, but were actually flying a mixture of F-35s and A-10s themselves. And the whole faction is like that, their fleets are a mixture of militarized civilian ships and newly-produced genuine capital ships. It makes them hard to define.
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>>94345638
I'd legitimately rather read Saxonite powerwanking from fucking stardestroyer.net over modern /tg/, that's how bad it's gotten here.
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>>94345698
EU tried to explain the Rebellion strike starfighters as usually being built in parts in a variety of places and then combined at a final destination. The X-wing was explained as especially easy because it was near-identical in a lot of its components from some widely available civilian models (T-16 skyhopper was one I think, and the Z-95 was galaxy-wide and also used a bunch of X-wing components), making sourcing parts ludicrously easy, so they could just keep building them from scrounged trash. In one of the X-wing novels, it's commented in an aside that dozens of other ships use X-wing parts, and one of Rogue Squadron's Verpine techs actually builds an entire X-wing out of spare parts for a pilot. It's like the ultimate DIY easy-prep starfighter.

Meanwhile, Y-wings had to keep being patched up because they were more difficult to source stuff for (Koensayr made them, not Incom). And A-wings were functionally a fully customised build for each one.
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>>94345743
This. Its a damn shame too. I remember when /tg/ used to be the place where you'd mine stuff for games, get commented on ideas, shipchads would post some obscure ship, or go into more well-known ones.

Now it boils down to 4-5 shitposters and the thread cowing down to them.
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>>94345694
>here's no reason to use Stormtrooper gear, because the armor they have isn't really any worse.
>doesn't even have enclosed helmets
>PDF gear being as good as stormtrooper gear
>basic uniforms being equal to full-covered plastoid
Yeah OK buddy.

>>94345698
It's funny, because fleet-wise, the rebels are actually portrayed perfectly reasonably. The complete absence of TIE-variants in the main films is perfectly reasonable from a filmistic PoV, but does occur in EU/Legends canon.

It's the uniform nature of their gear that is a bit weird, and let's be clear that we were originally talking specifically about rebel alliance elite troopers, and how their elite gear really shouldn't be that different from the (normal) imperial elite, because both of them should be using the best stuff available to them, which should generally be more or less the same stuff.

Of course, not being bound by normal uniform standards and the like means that there's still plenty of differentiation between them, and to be clear I think that >>94343845 looks stupid, but >>94345438 is still essentially correct; the SpecForce marines *should* look a lot like Stormtroopers.

I personally think that they should pretty much have a mix of "-trooper" equipment, supplemented with rebel symbols and repairs, instead of red-and-black and a fucking rebel stamp on the forehead.
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>>94345643
>entire irregular squads wearing mismatched repainted plastoid clone/stormtrooper armor and the like
This, I agree with. However, mismatched looted and stockpiled and stolen gear shouldn't look anywhere near as clean as uniform as >>94343845. A bit of grunge, disorganisation, mismatching and damage is required to make these rebels look like rebels.
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>>94346044
>>94346178
I don't actually care if it makes sense for hidden Rebel factories to be operating, somehow. It makes sense from a cinematic standpoint for the Rebellion and the Empire to look completely different, which really trumps everything else.

Even later on in the NR, they shouldn't be having triangle ships.
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>>94345687
That's more or less how it went in the original EU. In the first years after Endor the New Republic did make use of ISDs alongside the OT-era Rebel Fleet ships since they were capturing them from Imperial warlords and still had limited ability to produce their own ships. Later on they started producing their own dedicated capital ships and phased out the captured ISDs, though the SSD Lusankya served in the NR navy until the Vong war where she was destroyed in battle (though IIRC she had been mothballed before the war and returned to service since the NR needed all the ships they could get).
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I don't think rebels need to use Empire equipment, at least not en masse.
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>>94346738
It should really be a unit-by-unit thing.
PDF unfirms that were surplussed after the Imps took over? Sure, the one Corellian woman has a warehouse full of them and the imps even paid her 'for disposal'..
Imp blasters 'liberated' from a supply depot? Of course.
Clone Wars era MREs that spend 25 years in an abandoned asteroid base?
The logistics officer said 'nice', and Menu 17 'Rylothian Omelette' sounds good.
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>>94346220
>care about cinematics outside of film
Yeah, OK retard.

That said, you could make them look extremely different even with the same equipment, so I think that's a moot point.
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>>94346220
>Even later on in the NR, they shouldn't be having triangle ships.
Cope seethe sneed and seed.
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>>94344160
Rey but she shouldn't be, its just another symptom of her being the best at everything. Palpatine's granddaughter who is the son of a failed clone shouldn't have more juice than Luke.

Regardless, outside of the ST Luke is always doing cool shit and is just more impressive because he earned his stripes.
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>>94320801
I tried watching it for the first time since release and I had to turn it off after blind space monk throws sand in a a troopers face, and it actually makes them stagger/cover their eyes. The fucking HELMETED soldier gets got by pocket sand. Any fond memories/merits I attributed to that movie vanished after that moment.
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>>94349524
You've clearly never worn a face shield before. Trust me, the instinct to flinch is more powerful than reality.
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>>94349524
By your standard, all of teh OT is unwatchable because a Stormtrooper bangs his head on teh Death Star.
Let's not even start with PT or ST.
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the AG280 is better than the E-11
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>>94350283
Stunning and brave opinion, anon.
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>>94350291
Thanks, I formed it on my own. Though, is the E-11 better than the DC-15? Should be right, it is the successor to the DC-15
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If you take ANH completely in a vacuum with no knowledge of any other Star Wars content, this scene is actually hilarious. We know from ANH that the Jedi Order had some sort of religious component to it (hence Tarkin telling Vader he’s all that’s left of that ancient religion) and the way that Luke accuses Han of not “believing” in the Force strikes me as something someone would say about a religious belief.

Anyway, keep that in mind when watching the rebellion scenes and when Dodonna tells the pilots “May the Force be with you.” This makes the rebellion scenes at the end quite amusing, because (again, taking ANH completely in a vacuum) instead of Luke joining a totally secular rebellion, it now implies that the rebellion has a whole sectarian angle and that Luke has joined the space Mujahadeen or something.

This is never really committed to but it’s something I always found funny. If ANH was made today I don’t think Dodonna would’ve said that.
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>>94350496
>Man your ships and may the Force be with you!
Welp. Kinda changes the flavor of that scene.
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>>94350496
>Luke has joined the space Mujahadeen or something
wait a second, I've heard this one before
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>>94350496
Didn't Dodonna serve in the Clone Wars? I'd assume he'd worked with a Jedi at some point and absorbed the old Jedi phrase/prayer in his normal vernacular. And seeing a Jedi again had to bring back some old memories.
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>>94346220
Most of the time they don't. They capture a bunch from the Empire over the years of the GCW, but they stay a minority. They use them anyway because the Mon Cals take ages to build ships, and the NR needs a fleet. So if they capture an ISD, they give it a new coat of paint, fix up battle damage, re-staff it, their Starfighter Corps packs X-wings or whatever in (because Starfighter Command is populated entirely by jocks and chads who point-blank refuse to fly a TIE), and then they send it off.

Even doing that alongside making their own ships, they were perpetually struggling for large capships, it was a plot point in like 3 different trilogies not even counting NJO (which had the military largely neglected through budget cuts by the NR government, and then the Vong showed up).
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>>94350496
>This is never really committed to but it’s something I always found funny. If ANH was made today I don’t think Dodonna would’ve said that.
Based retard.
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>>94351584
>>94351149
>in a vacuum
This doesn't mean something made in the actual vacuum of space, but something independently considered without all of the things around it or that came since. It's shocking that you zoomers don't pick up on colloquial terms just by natural cultural osmosis. Holy shit.
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>>94351738
You are a stupid fucking retard. Rebellion in the original Star Wars, IN A VACUUM, was an alliance to restore the Republic. Jedi Knights were described in the original Star Wars as guardians of peace and justice, heroes of the Old Republic. So of course, Rebels would be fond of the Jedi and believe in the Force. You are so fucking stupid. Star Wars faggot fans are so fucking retarded. You are low IQ, inbred mongoloids. Every one last of you is such an unbelievable cretin, clinically retarded moron. Fucking neck yourself.
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>>94351821
this
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And more so, Obi-Wan Kenobi, legendary Jedi Knight and a former General of the Republic, served Bail Organa, ex-Republic-now-Imperial Senator, who was one of the key players in the Rebellion, a father to Leia Organa, who was responsible for stealing the Death Star plans and was a big rebellion player herself, and who had immense respect for Ben Kenobi. So of course, all of the big Rebellion players knew of the Jedi and the Force, they all revered the Jedi, and by extension, of course they believed in the Force. How fucking retarded one has to be to not get that?
>LOLOLOLOLO DODONNA SAYING MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU IS SO QUIRKY LOLZ WTF
Fucking low IQ media illiterate faggots.
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>>94351821
I blame the Filonifag. We know who.
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>>94351934
What are you onto, you fucking cretin?
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Do Wookies' characterization fall between unambiguous good guy Chewie, and 8ft psychotic ape Hanharr?
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>>94350398
Not a bad conclusion, but it must also be remembered that the Stormies themselves are described at this point anyway, depending on what lore you prefer as inferior to the Clones, at least in terms of military competence. And I have a vague recollection which I want to attribute to one of the visual dictionaries that their armor was also worse, designed to be cheaper and easier to mass-produce, since you now had to make varying sizes since the guys going in them are no longer identical.

If those are both true, then the E-11 may be desgined not as a mechanically superior DC-15A carbine, but as a logistically superior one. It'd certainly be better than the DC-15A rifle with the presumable exception of engagement distance. You can see even in TCW and RotS that the carbine became more popular over the course of the war because it was more maneuverable.
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>>94352826
Yes. Or combination of both.
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Is Clone Wars an accurate depiction of The Republic or is it limited by budget? What I mean by that is it seems a majority of inhabited planets consist of a handful of 1880s US farming villages with some droid assistance. Even Ryloth in the TV show is basically a handful of villages and one larger walled city.

As a kid, I thought that the state of Luke's moisture farm was because he lived on the Outer Rim or because they chose a quiet life. But Clone Wars makes dirt poverty look like the norm.

My working theory is that the Republic cared more about colonizing and taxing as many planets as possible without actually developing them, so most planets are left on their own as long as they pay taxes and Senate decisions don't really impact them.
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>>94352915
No, anon, it's just Star Wars. Entire planet is one biom/one city. Naboo is just Theed. Kamino is just Tipoca City. And so on. Star Wars has never had a realistic scale/intricate world-building. For all intents and purposes, planets ARE just cities, narratively speaking, and hyperspace travel is snappy and fast to keep the pace of adventure up and it is just traveling between cities, essentially.
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>>94352915
>Even Ryloth in the TV show is basically a handful of villages and one larger walled city.
Ryloth is canonically a shithole whose only notable exports are slaves and drugs. Twileiks may be one of the most prominent species in the galaxy, but that's less to do with their homeworld being rich and influential and more with how many of them have been exported all cross known space as slaves because some quirk in Twileik biology makes every species horny for their women.
Though the impression one seems to get from various EU sources is that the Republic in general had a bunch of rich well-developed core worlds and a larger amount of poor poorly-developed worlds closer to its rim, many of which joined the CIS specifically because they felt the Republic didn't give a shit about their world unless they found some natural resource there that could be exploited to enrich the core worlds.
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>General Cassian!
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>>94350398
I'm not sure it's really a case of one being straight-up "better" than the other. Like, is an M4 carbine better than a FAL? Sure, the M4 is newer, and also lighter and more compact, but the FAL hits much harder at a far longer range despite its age.

The choice between one and the other is more reflective of different views of the role of infantry on the battlefield than it is a matter of pure technological progress rendering the older weapon obsolete.

During the Clone Wars, large-scale infantry engagements were common, often fought at long range in open terrain. And the clones were up against heavily armored droids like the B2. As such, a large, hard-hitting blaster rifle made sense. By contrast, the Galactic Civil War an increase in small-scale engagements at close ranges, in and around urban areas and Imperial facilities. And the Stormtroopers were mainly fighting guys wearing unarmored clothing. A compact weapon like the E-11 suited that paradigm better.
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>>94353016
>Naboo is just Theed
???
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>>94350496
Rogue One only leaned into that angle even harder though, down to a major rebel cell being oppressed force believers.
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>>94353206
Is that Grevious fighting Imps? What Rebels time-travel shenanigans would enable this?
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>>94354434
DC-15 remained in Imperial service as an anti-material weapon by the Purge Troopers before being supplanted by newer designs, so it was definitely a case of different tools for different jobs.
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>>94353206
>red saber Grievous
Is that NK Necrosis? That's awesome.
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>>94353016
The amount a planet is fleshed out is directly proportional to how important it is to the main characters. Coruscant, Naboo, Tatooine, even Endor have enough material for an entire campaign, while tertiary worlds are at best an origin point for that funny alien PC or that droid who looks like C3PO with a quirky bug head.
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>tfw the crazed mandalorian is right behind me
>tfw I forgot to play preservation protocols
>>94354564
Nah, it's rebels and K2S0. Think about it as Separatists putting down the uprising on Onderon.
>>94354574
Huh, now that's an interesting lore tidbit.
I just painted them red so that he fits my other seppy lightsaber uses.
I guess Dooku just a few red crystals to him.
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>>94354528
Oh sorry. It's two cities. One of them is the size of a village. My bad. Judging by the movies, the entire population of Naboo, including Gungans, is just a few hundred people.
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>>94354564
The Seperatists, fearful of perfidious tactics being turned on them, undertook a scheme of cloning Grievous near the end of the war. The clone was convincing, but didn't remember all that the real general had experienced to that point hence why Greivous seems like he's just met Obi-Wan for the first time over Coruscant in RotS, it was the clone then. After the clone's death on Utapau, Grievous went into hiding with other Seperatist loyalists and holdouts when it became clear the war had been a charade. He is one of the few who knows the truth, having been so close to the Seperatist command structure. After linking up with General Kalani some time after the events of Rebels, he proclaims the Neo-CIS and launches a campaign to destroy the Empire and those who would see the tyranny of the Old Republic restored.
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>>94355393
Kino.
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>>94352826
You'd get some Zalbaar and maybe the rest of Chewie's family too.Especially his dad watching holoporn with Art Carney
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>>94354528
Y'all remember that time the guy who said "You in big doo doo this time, Jar Jar" killed Grievous in 1v1 combat?
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>>94355762
>Not die, sacrifice
Fucking kino. May be the best death of a minor character in the franchise.
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>>94355805
Incorrect.
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>>94355762
His name was General Tarpals. He gave his life so that you could shitpost, and you don't even know his name? Shameful.
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>>94356018
Humiliation ritual
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>>94355957
Unironically, Trask was a Jedi bodyguard for Revan. Bastilla did not fucking mindwipe OUR BOY just to risk having him die in a random spaceship battle.
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Daily reminder that armada is dead and I'll never stop coping.
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>>94356196
Get that ugly-ass Twi'lek off my screen, anon.
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>>94355957
Based
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>>94356196
I don't think thats regulation rebel gear
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>>94356196
Sex with Mission in the missionary position.
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>>94356196
Armada just had an official GT here past 2 days with new players turning up
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>>94356196
MODS
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>>94357366
>14
outta 10.
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>>94356805
Dude she's 14!
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>>94357636
Refer to >>94357411
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>>94357636
Still space legal.
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>>94356224
>ugly-ass Twi'lek
Twi'leks are hot
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>>94356805
Let me guess, it's also consensual, for procreation and you will hold hands?
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>>94358636
>procreating with aliens
Gross. Aliens are for recreational sex and, at best, they could serve as mistresses.
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>>94358000
Zeltrons are hotter.
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>>94358743
>wanting to fuck a telepathic, emotionally manipulative, pheromone releasing slut species
Nah, I'll stick with Chiss and Pantorans.
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>>94358771
>Pantorans
Good taste anon.
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What does /swg/ think of Zygerrians?
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>>94358905
Exterminate them all.
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Star Wars waifu posting is always hemmed by people only ever drawing TV/movie characters.
You would think the FFG games would inspire something more with character art. But that requires a greater critical mass of players.
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>>94358937
why?
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>>94359374
Slavers are scum.
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>>94359411
slavery is fine, if it was wrong the republic would have stamped it out on planets like tattooine
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>>94326533
Honestly it was just weird that they used basic bitch TIE bombers with nukes instead of a standard BDZ.
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>>94359411
What if we hired the Zygerrian girls as entertainers?
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>>94359411
Fur on the body OR human hairstyles. You can't have both unless you're just showing off a fetish.
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>>94360568
The palace torture master waxed her whole body.
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>>94360568
Only male Zygerrians have fur on face/body. Females are smooth, because they are, in fact, fetish aliens - like most of SW aliens that were made for human fucking.
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>>94358636
>procreation
I subscribe to the timeline where humans can't breed with twi'leks.
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>>94360715
>like most of SW aliens that were made for human fucking.
We know. Humans are the rightful heirs to the galaxy.
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>>94361479
that's a made-up retard EU alien, doesn't count.
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>>94361582
*screams like a monkey because you offended me*
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>>94358905
Cringey TCW alien. Nothing else to say, really.
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>>94360715
>wanting Ziggy girls to be hairless
Enjoy your waifu, anon.
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lightsaber forms are a neat concept, and interesting lore on why some dudes fight like knights, others like weaboo fightin magic
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>>94358905
Kino TCW alien. Nothing else to say, really.
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>>94358905
So, is a Zygerrian who dyes her fur in elaborate pink patterns basically the equivalent of a crazy pink-haired tattooed girl?
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>>94361621
this
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>>94361840
this
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>>94361888
Checked and based. Digits speak the truth. EUkeks lose, as always.
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>>94358905
ugly
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>>94358905
sexy
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>>94358905
diet cathar
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>>94358905
Furry shit. Can't expect much better from a children's cartoon though.
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>>94358905
better cathar
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>>94358905
Sexy catgirl.
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>>94361840
>>94361888
>>94361900
>>94361973
>>94361995
>>94362003
Absolutely mindbroken kek
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Now EU had some real kino aliens........................................
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>>94361621
>>94361870
>>94361902
>>94361981
>>94361986
Absolutely mindbroken kek
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>>94330469
>"Dooku's form was superior and a perfect counter to Obi-Wan's form."
Dooku beat Obi-wan because he was a master at Form 2 and Obi-Wan wasn't a master at Form 3, not because he deployed Form 2 against Form 3.
By Revenge, he's on the Back Foot against Obi-Wan and Anakin, because they'd became masters at Their Forms.
>It says nothing. It doesn't engage with the narrative on any meaningful level.
Worldbuilding is an important part of Narrative, anon.
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>>94361723
I'll acknowledge you anon, my favorite form is Juyo.
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>>94362039
Based Overwhelming Strength and Trickery Enjoyer.
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>>94343845
Damn that's cool
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What kind of Imperial citizen are you?
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>>94362423
the kind that likes EUslop.
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>>94362423
Love the Empire.
Hate Rebels.
Hate aliens (except near-human girls, if they're hot).
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>>94362516
Which Empire are you
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So
Luke in Ep 5 - Ataru/Soresu
Luke in Ep 6 - Djem So/Soresu
Luke in Ep 4 - Shii-Cho?
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>>94362039
my favorite is Soresu
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>>94362632
Probably, I think the kids in episode 2 were learning it in a similar manner to what we see Luke doing in Episode 4.
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>>94362013
That art is an error. Runt is described as fitting inside a Stormtrooper helmet with no problem. He has horse-like TEETH but not a horse head with snout.
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>>94362423
>>94362516
>>94362520
Zsinj for the lols
Pellaeon for the stability.
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>>94361582
>he thinks Rakatans don't exist in Diseny canon
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>>94362980
No I don't. I said they were designed by the retarded EU artists.
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>>94362946
>He has horse-like TEETH
Wait, so he's British? Even worse!
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>OT, and new series
>Fighter scenes use mostly believable maneuvers
>Cool radio chatter
>Feels less like protagonists vs fodder

>New Wars
>Impossible maneuvers
>cringe "WHOA YEAH" everytime Poe does something
>Just an excuse to give Poe some screen time vs fodder

How did the OT and Rogue One get space battles right, while the new movies make me die from cringe? Even Andor made TIE Fighters intimidating and they're in like 5 scenes tops
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Why did the clones shoot down the fucking ship the Chancellor was on, good thing space anti-christ was there
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>>94364552
This also bothers me every time I watch ROTS. They KNOW the Chancellor of the Republic is aboard that ship (Obi-Wan and Anakin knew precisely which ship to board, clones were accompanying them), and they fucking blast it to pieces while they're still on board, almost killing Sheev, Anakin and Obi-Wan. So fucking dumb. Revenge of the Sith is a very poorly written movie. It's no masterpiece, not even close. It is, in fact, much worse than the other two prequels.
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>>94361723
they would only make sense if they were based down from master to apprentice, centered in specific temples, like actual fighting styles. ah, that jedi studied under master so-and-so, that line of jedi all specialize in dingbat form. oh, master whoever, yes she learned flipdick form under master yoda like all of yodas padawans, but eventually she modified it and started her own school of divekick form that got formally acknowledged by the order. etc etc.

the whole thing where there's a bunch of styles but we just teach them all and you pick one like a college major, totally unrelated to whatever your master or their master use, is nonsensical.

>>94359504
tatooine isn't a republic planet, that's like it's secondmost defining feature
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>>94364552
Reminds me of one comic where Anakin fails the landing and Palpatine dies and ends up in space-hell, where the spirit of Darth Bane berates him for hedging the entire 1000-year Sith master plan on one dude's ability to land a burning hulk of a spaceship.
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>>94359411
So you're saying it's morally correct to enlsave the catgirls because they were slavers?
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>>94364552
It's the largest space battle in star wars history, pretty good chance there was just a miscommunication about what ship it was
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>>94364552
Why were all the crews clones too?

I get it for some shock troops, but the whole Republic army and navy being clones is dumb and kinda lowers the stakes.
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>>94364751
>much worse than the other two prequels.
Hol' on now. It may be a dumpster fire, but is in no way the "festering behind long john silvers for three weeks before igniting" dumpster fire that was episode 2.
It almost was, but 2 takes the crown for worst of the worse just because it had more of George's god-fucking-awful romantic dialogue.
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>>94362423
Imperial Super Commando
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>>94370185
>>94370185
>>94370185



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