>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>94336589Roots, edition >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com >Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/ >Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/ >Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/ >Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php >Thread question:What's the army you care least about and why?
>>94354733>Roots, edition
>>94354733I thought that was a Lord of Skulls in the background for a second
does anyone have the most recent obr tome
>>94354733OBR, 100%. I don't care for Soulblight but I like vampires and normal skeletons, they just don't look like a AoS faction together. OBR, on the other hand, I just hate. They look so bad to me that I can't imagine that they could ever be good, not even a single model. I somehow like every other version of engineered bone construct in any media less because of them
>>94354733TQ, Idoneth. Anemic as their range is Fyreslayers have had an impressive role in the fluff being mercenary bastards. DoK are a constant thorn in everyone's sides with how they're shifty bitches. Idoneth just exist. I know of no other faction which are more like video game NPCs. Even Tyranids have a galactic war against them and OBR are an important part of Shyish. In comparison Idoneth are literally Dark Eldar, but everyone forgets about them. Their only major part of the fluff was being ancillary mooks for DoK, who get inevitably sidelined. This isn't to mention that their mechanical niche, glass cannon melee charging, is shared with Hedonites and DoK. The most literally forgettable faction.
>>94354891Yeah, they're just stupid. It's like a KoW army or something
>>94354733>TQIf ogors disappeared i wouldn't even notice
>>94354891they looks good, unique, alien. you have autism and dislike change. the unfamiliar. you are a nurglite.
>>94354733FEC, Tzeench, Nurgle, Skaven, Sons and Ogres are the ones I'm least interested in and of those I'd say Tzeench is probably the army I'm least likely to ever get into.I guess I don't like ugly/nasty things.
>TQJust fyre slayers I think. Maybe cities of Sigmar to some extent, I would also like sylvaneth more if they had less elves.
>>94355227Technically Sylvaneth has only 1 elf in its whole roster
>>94354829Yes actuallyhttps://files.catbox.moe/r34plr.pdf
>>94354891Same here, OBR are total fail for me. Not even one mini.
>>94355360thanks
>>94352223It’s been retconned like sometime around 2nd
Does anyone know of a proxy or better looking conversion for this piece of shit? I made my own avatar and medusae some time back, but I can't bring myself to buy this thing even though the croneseer really needs it to work.
>>94355677Hopefully DoK get a refresh.At the same time, I fear they will be updated for modern audiences
>>94354891>>94355083>>94355398I thought I was the only one who hated OBR here. I shit on them relentlessly and I always got pushback from OBR paypigs. Their aesthetic is unfocused and ugly. Truly a mystery as to who they appeal to, some of the ugliest range I’ve seen for any game system ever, let alone Warhammer. I think people glaze AoS for the “ freedom “ it offers in terms of faction creativity, but OBR as a repudiation of that freedom being always a good thing.
>>94355767they appeal to tactical geniuses
>>>94353564Ironjawz SpearheadOrruk going to get some for of giant feetGtimob army box>Wolf Chariot>Doomdiver catapultSoulblight Gravelord army box>Zombie dragon>Skeleton themeCogfort for Cos
whats with the navel obsession that the designers have for this game
>>94355709This and the doomfire warlocks are the only real ugly holdovers from fantasy, everything else either looks good or is new. I just don't like its design. Just a T-pose on top of a fragile cart with no indication of how it moves. (no horses or cold ones pulling it, slaves pushing it, etc). Magic isn't an excuse for something being designed so fiddly.
I'm putting together my first unit of Blissbarb Archers, and even building another ten of these seems like a big ask. I can't imagine how I'm going to feel after actually painting a full unit of these flashy fuckers.Hedonites players, how did you do 30 Blissbarb Archers?
>>94355767(You) and the other totally not you samefagging anons are wrong, fags, and also gay.>>94355809This guy is also gayOBR appeal to people who were told 'this AoS army wants to act like an army.'We were lied too, it's just SC bullshit all the way down. But my ranked up spear mortek on a movement trays look amazing even if I lose to metagaming fags constantly.
>>94356699I'm not even joking when I say I know a guy who literally stopped playing HoS because of the thought of having to build and paint more Blissbarbs (he had 20 fully built and painted; he said it was one of the worse kits he ever put together or painted).
>>94355809Yeah I can understand the appeal, even if they don't appeal to me personally. They're toy soldiers. It's an army that has intentionally eschewed all the character and weirdness of all the other armies in the setting in favor of just doing army stuff with maximum efficiency. This, of course, makes them by far actually the weirdest.Like, if you've read Catch-22, remember the part where one officer briefly considers sinking bolts into all his soldier's femurs so he can attach chains from them to their wrists so when they drill they will all have the perfect swing to their arms. Bonereapers are a whole army made for that guy.
>>94356712each one is built differently, and insanely. Like, look at piece 2 here. It's the pony tail, quiver and right foot. This is the work of a madman.
>>94356717I'm glad the standard soldier dudes are also skeletons assembled and mish mashed with all these different cultures.Then mix that with giant constructs. Ala tomb kings and I dig it.
Anyone got the image of the ahaego face but it's the killabosses shield?
>>94354891This. Truly an abomination of a faction. One of the ugliest and lamest in any fantasy setting ever.
>>94354733>TQSkaven, entirely because their playerbase are the scum of the fanbase and all terrible fucking people. That or Slaves to Darkness. Who the fuck thought that basic bitch chaos was worth having in the game when you could have cool godmarked chaos chads instead.
>>94356699>>94356712Mood. My HoS army is fully painted outside of some newly built Twinsouls and my Blissbarbs.I actually will put off painting them as long as I can because building them was awful and painting them isn't much better.
>>94357134Give me basic gestalt on Skaven players.
>>94357167Every skaven player is WAY too into their faction. They do the rat double speak in person. They talk about how whacky and zany their stuff is. They hang onto a single bit of lore about their faction, true or not, and repeat it endlessly. They love to do conversions and kit bashes that are just throwing rat bits onto other models and saying they're "ratcast" or "ratorruks," or they're mad into monsters or whatever. Basically, they're the ork players of AoS, and they're just as bad.
>>94357178Well, I'm not going to defend lazy conversions but most of those points sound like positives and I like Ork players.
>>94354733>What's the army you care least about and why?Cities of Sigmar. I really don't like the models being a mix of overweight inbreds with warts and missing teeth. That's something I didn't like about the Bretonnian peasants and Empire state troops models either.
>>94357134Slaves to Darkness is the right option. Aside from being basic bitch Chaos, they also have a terrible fanbase of edgelords. They are the type of people who get Chaos tattoos and say shit like "Varanguard are the coolest models in the game" and "Archaon's the coolest character ever."
>>94354733I'm going to shill this Kickstarter because familiars are neat and the guy is offering a lot of them for cheap
>>94354733Dont hate them but i have had enough..Stormcast. They re too on the nose. They get everything and more while there are so many factions languishing. Just too much already man. Stop it
>>94357297I have a friend who has Chaos tattoos and he's never played a game of Warhammer in his life. Just plays WH video games and reads the shitty books. Makes me cringe hard.
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>>94356032How is 1 sea theamed army a naval obsession?
>>94357451Agreed. It's probably why I hate them, this ridiculously wide range whole other armies have almost nothing.Not to mention so many things which all do the same thing. I haven't kept count but it feels like they cut more than they introduced this edition. I hope they do same with the next. Squatting their models isn't an issue as they all look the same anyway
>>94357509Thankyou anon, but I am looking for the one where the shield has been made to look like it's blushing. Here's one I made that is just a worse version on the original.
>>94354733>TQRegardless of game, setting or power level I do not give a slightest shit about undead so Alliance of Death. Also, N*rgle.
>>94357523I have this saved too. Seams similar
>TQGoing by GA's:>OrderThey're fine. Some have issues, but none are unsolvable and ultimately not one is super awful. Sure, SCEs are over represented, but they are cool. CoS desperately needs non-human refresh, but the new humans look great. Fyreslayers are a bit of a meme, but that makes them fun, etc. >DeathOBR. I hate how their joints look. They could be so close to being awsome mega-skeletons, but the puppet / bone-necron look ruins it. >DestructionA trick GA! I would insitctively say SoB, because they look bad, have a crap range and ultimately are just a gimick faction. However, Orruk's are the real answer. Not because they aren't cool or that I don't lie them, but because they should not even be a faction. They are kind of like if Cities of Sigmar only contained OW Empire humans, Kharadron Overlords and Lumineth, while the latter two weren't even factions. Just split it into Kruelboy and Ironjaw armies and bin the old crap, unless you want a refresh for those OW orks. >ChaosNurgle. Looks fucking disgusting and even of its their theme, I don't want to look at em. Others are cool, but it feels like StD might also suffer from early symptoms of Orruk problem with how its now a mishmash of Darkoath, Archaon and Belakor.
>>94357178>Describes players having fun and vibing with their faction identityMan-thing in need of a rutting, good and hard-hard fast
>>94357178>they're the ork players of AoSThat makes way too much sens
Ideally the StD battletome would go up for preorder next Saturday. But it won't.
>>94357798Aren't Gitz and Orcs next?
>>94357803StD is coming out right now with the new wizard model, greens are after it
>>94355009Idoneth being the most forgettable faction is pretty meta, if you think about it.
>>94357803Gitz and Orcs are 2025, StD is the last release of 2024 with the already revealed Spearhead
>>94354733>TQNurgle, like in every GW game. I know a lot of people love the highly detailed and comically disgusting models but I just can't bring myself to like the aesthetic.
>>94355767>I shit on them relentlessly and I always got pushback from OBR paypigsha ha yes they work 24/7 and pay for it.OBR are made by people who never seen how bones work. I work in medical field and anytime I look at their range I die a little inside from cringe. There is some potential in concept of bone golem's but why it looks like nGash made it with 3d software? Kinda Tyranids but waaaay worse.
>>94355955>Zombie dragonMy body and soul is ready. My backlog is not.
>>94357166I haven't done Twinsouls yet but painting the Painbringers was a joy. Those guys are the perfect Battleline model kit.
>>94356742>that picI'm so glad I don't want slanesh mortals.
>>94356712>>94356742Being weird doesn't make them hard to assemble. Just fucking glue 2 pieces of plastic together
>>94358344>Being weird doesn't make them hard to assembleYes it does. Like, it obviously does. Having to check the instructions on every single guy and parts that come together in unusual ways is obviously harder than just "glue front of torso to back of torso, then glue torso to legs".You can't get into a groove like you can when assembling other Battleline units.
>>94358354>You have to glance into a booklet!!!!>even though it's literally only 2-3 pieces so if you know what numbers make a given archer you don't even need to see how they fit
>>94358441OK, man, I don't know what you're doing here. I have built more traditional troop kits and I have built Blissbarb Archers, and the more traditional troops where you often don't even need to look at the instructions because all the pieces go together the same way are significantly easier to build than 11 bespoke little weird guys who each go together differently.Like, that is so obviously true the fact that you're acting like it's not is making me think you've literally never built a model before in your life. Or you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
>>94357167The word is "gist", not "gestalt".
>>94357542Yeah Destruction is objectively the most fucked up GA, and being the "focus" of 3E did almost nothing to fix it. You've got GG which for all intents and purposes are the poster boy faction of Destruction and get all the love. You've got SoB which are meme tier, unloved Ogres, and the endless pile of mistakes and bad ideas that is Warclans.
>>94358472Basically every modern GW model is made like that. Sounds like you only bought 1 box of Blissbarbs for your models this decade
>>94358752You can literally compare them to the other infantry kit that came out for the same army at the same time
>>94358276I'm wondering if they make a straight update for the zombie dragon like they did for the blood knights/wight king on skeletal steed or a reimagining like they did with vampires and vyrkos/more east europe.Either way I hope that the model has a helmet and a weapon that makes sense on such a mount like a lance.
>>94358907I don't think it will be a straight replacement because the kit still has to exist since the fec need the terrorgheist half and tow is not going to get it back too soonI think it's going to be a special character, vordrai or however it's called, so same aesthetic as the other blood knights
Anywhere to find battletome pdfs?
>>94358768Not a monopose kit. Look at apples in other armies instead of some oranges
>>94358907I think they'll make a named character on a dragon, or a smaller dragon kit like stormdrakes vs stardrake
>>94354733Soon
>>94354733>tqCities of SigmarThey feel too one note and models are way to detailed. Especially the infantry models. High marshall is way too good for tis range and Horse knights are way to detailed for conversion or personalisation. O and Manticore Girl has no generic option. The whole thing is a mess really.
>>94359130>High marshallCavalier Marshal i meant
>>94357178>or they're mad into monsters or whatever.What's wrong with this?
>>94358927They could also bring back abyssal terrors for the big vampire mount and soft retire the ridden zombie dragon.Honestly I would like a dedicated prince vordrai kit because it probably would be a easy proxy for the generic option. >>94359106They should bring back hellsteeds
>>94359400>hellsteedsIsn't that just a Nightmare?
>>94359440winged and a bit more demonic than undead
>>94359440>Isn't that just a Nightmare Similar but the hellsteed has wings, scales, claws and a fire tail
>>94359460Nightmares sometimes have wings too in popculture
>>94357909>>94358023The roadmap is so fucking terrible.Why can't they do a Q1-Q4 thing?
>>94358269I have a bone you can work with
>>94359080Here.Ask for a battetome and someone will share it
>>94354733Ogres. Nobody plays them and they're not an AoS army.
>>94360135Ogors are going to get an update wave this edition and it's gonna blow everyone away. Better than the FEC update.
>>94360198>Better than the FEC updatDoubt, but mostly because FEC had a better fundation.I've never realy seen anyone speculating about ogor future with excitment, just "well that metal thing should just be plasic".FEC had a tone of concepts flying around
>>94358907New blood knights are too soft for me but Wight King is absolute kino.
>>94360210>give us abhorrant unit already and not just heroes
>>94358907Eastern European dragons are just... dragons.Unless they plant a Cossac Vampire on a Basilisc (the chicken type not the Harry otter type) i don't see them changing it much.
Hashut will save Aqshy from the VermindoomOr maybe daemon Khul willOr maybe Skreech will
>>94360235>give us Slann unit already and not just heroes
>>94360210That's because Ogors are starting from a much stronger place, having been a full army in WFB. Whereas FEC were literally three kits but with a whole lot of unexplored potential.People say "replace this old kit with a new plastic one" because they had a ton of old kits that were where the army got a lot of their flavor. Replace those old kits, give them a dash of AoS flavor, and do new Glutton and Leabelcher kits so they have more than literally two bodies across their entire infantry range, and you're absolutely golden.
>>94360289We can see on the very recent examples of Skaven vs Seraphon, that updating is much less exciting than innovating.Skaven releas felt realy boring compared to te lizard one and that's with all the shilling and support that's given to the face of an edition.Ogors getting a skaven brand update as a middle of edition thing will probably be well recieved, but forgetable.You'dneed soemthing actually new to make the impact
>>94357178holy mother of based
>>94360251could a Zmey type dragon
>>94360198Ha, pull the other one.
>>94357541>seams
>>94360739...how man cocks do you have?
>>94360750More than enough.
>>94360289I still think ogres should have gone with the beastclaw raider winter theme instead of just going fantasy ogre kingdoms 2.0. their entire theme of the everwinter gives them a much better visual identity and more options to expand on than normal ogres and their nomadic lifestyle is also more important when chased by a magical ice storm that is maybe caused by old death gods.
>>94360712That would be awesome i dislike that all vampire mounts are undead when in fantasy they had stuff like nightmares and even used chaos beasts.
>>94360210Yeah that makes sense, now can we get a few more units please. Year of death right?!
wish the vampires looked more regal and less homeless
>>94361095Agreed. Vampires should not be wielding rusted and decrepit blades.
will tzeentch ever have interesting models
>>94361148How do you feel about Ephilim's Pandaemonium?
>>94361220ahah nigger i would like something more than just pink and blue and tzaangors and cultists
>>94361241You got the coolest wizard in the game
>>94361148
>>94361095Wouldn't realy be a curse without the crack addic part
>>94361313such is the power of nagash
>>94361313They're supposed to be crack addicts draped in fineries
>>94361337A monkey in a wig is still a monkey
>>94361350Yeah but that's kinda the whole point of vampires. They're monsters dressed up like royalty, but they're ultimately monsters.
which tome is the best page turner
>>94361355Just say you hate russian "people" and their """culture"""
Man I fuckin' love cheap prices on rescue minis, but holy shit I wish I knew what fuckers did to these minis. I spent 3 days stripping and trying to clean a fucking Arkhan and it's like I can never fully clean this god damn thing. I kinda wanna just prime him to see if I can save him with paint but I dunno if it's even possible.
Christmas boxes all feel like they are missing something
>>94361739Ya know what would have been cool, replacing one unit of crypt whatever in the FEC one with the Warcry Warband. The rest I got no clue what I'd change or add but I do see what you're saying, even in the pictures it feels more sparse.
>>94361739Last year many of them had named characters, this year i think only FEC has one and it's a small model
>>94361522Sons of Behamat. Because of the nature of the army it reads like a collection of fairy tales
>>94361733Prime him with something you know strips easily and if he has too much texture just continue stripmaxxing till he's clean. Also suggest you try the goat if you haven't yet
>>94361887I've been using high percentage alcohol but maybe I'll see if I can find this stuff anywhere.I did prime him though and he's got this gritty and caked in bits on the little skulls on his mount and just kinda all over. This fucking sucks bro.
>>94361915Check you local autozone or automates store. I know Walmart and Canadian tire has it sometimes too
>>94361733I gave up on buying rescues. Too many models poorly fit together and completely swamped in plastic glue.
>>94361959I got a walmart a decent walk away from me, maybe I'll go take a peak.>>9436196760 bucks for Arkhan the black and a NoS Kavalos General was hard to pass up. Though unfortunately I'm still lacking in what could be called anywhere near a usable army for OBR. I figure worst case scenario if Arkhan's mount looks a bit rough i'll paint it with that in mind to try and make it look like some worn down fucked up bones or something.
I finished building my Blissbarb Archers today, with a bit of luck weather will be good for priming tomorrow.It was amazing, as I built them the number of details I thought I decided I could get away with just doing with a coat of Black Legion steadily increased
>>94361887Okay just got a jug of this, can I just use it straight or do I gotta water it down? Any tips?
>>94361739I really want a Hedonites battleforce that doesn't suck. The one they did a couple years back was horrendous. The exact same contents as the Vanguard, even down to the same monopose character! and two boxes of Painbringers. Wow.
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>>94363318Wow, looks like shit. That'll be $40 for the tiny goblin boy btw, love GW prices.
>>94363318Back view. Alternate haed.
>>94363318YEEEES
>>94363318Man, I should make fakes and sell 'em, that'd be good money
>>94363318>Can only take HS in his regiment>Attack profile: 3, 4+, 3+, -1, 2>Only ability will be choosing a unit of HS to fight in sequence
>>94362654Use it straight for max stripping power, use diluted for a slower strip or for resin models. This stuff will turn greenstuff into soft purple boogers so keep that in mind. No clue what it does to milliput but I imagine about the same. Can leave plastics in it indefinitely, have forgotten multiple minis in a jar with this for over a year with no issues
>>94363318Nice hat (lemme guess: toady of Chorfs?)
>>94363318He reminds me of the symmetrical Fyreslayer
>>94363576Isn’t that the hobgrot’s whole gimmick
>>94363499Well it's been like 10 minutes and shits already floating and being stripped. Holy fuck you glguys weren't lying. I guess time to let him soak and see how he turns out.Side note, I'm trying to figure out a decent basing scheme for my bonereapers. I wanna go for winter since I've done seasons for my other death factions but not sure if I wanna shoot for just snow and ice or like dead grass and snow.
anons, I'm a click away from pulling the trigger on skaventide and getting into aos40kg is a fucking shitshow, I've been lurking and it's so chill here
>>94363785Go nuts, if you want something cheaper just pick up a spearhead. Or just check ebay, there's probably some massive fuckoff Skaven lot floating around you could snipe.
>>94363789Looking at a skaventide box for 190 NIB (decent price for 2 spearheads?) on ebay right now. I really want to build Soulblight since I loved vampire counts in old world, but I figure I can start building that later. Want to get something playable and invite some friends over
>>94363798Skaventide is pretty decent to dip your toes into, you get all the books for normal play and spearhead and a board with some terrain. Your get two spearheads plus extra units for both factions but the spearheads are B to B plus quality so not bad but not board wiping good.
>>94363318Here's hoping i guessed the base size (probably not)
>>94363318Awful
>>94361739Dunno about others, but CoS is tailor-made to supplement the Spearhead. So in that way it is missing in its own usability, but combined its perfect.
>>94363874Why is he so arms
>>94363318Feels like he wants ot be symetrial, but isn't because his weapon is much longer to the right
>>94363734Wear gloves when you take him out. This stuff will pull all the oils out of your hands and your hands will dry out crazy bad. Also you can strain it and reuse it quite a few times.
>>94363734Forgot to mention to also give him a good rinse once you've got all the paint loose to wash off the degreaser.
>>94363798Soulblight is actually really cheap. Generic skeletons and zombies can be gotten for cheap or 3d printed. wargames Atlantic is selling 10 cavalry and 15 footmen or 32 footmen skeletons for $34. Dungeons and lasers sells a dragon called thall the defiler that makes a good proxy for zombie dragon or terrorgeist for $31.
>>94363318GW has been realy leaky with images of model lately
>>94363798Mantic zombies cheap for what you get in the box
>>94364025Honestly aside from the jobbers second hand hero units are a dime a dozen, plus the mortarch kit with a bit of conversion work can give you a big guy and 2 hero looking dudes. Plus people seem to dump pff death units in bulk so second hand is easy and cheap (for GW plastic) I've found one too many good deals since I started collecting death stuff.
>>94363318nice. i'll definitely get one, i've got 40 of the little shits.now hopefully he can actually make them...you know....do....something. anything.
>>94363318could have some more armour, but not bad
>>94361241they should definitely use the next dot release to make a fuckton of spawn models and mutated knights
>>94363318Were they already using this type of box or is this somehow new?
>>94364254That's way too based for GW.
>>94363318I weep for my kruleboys brothers
>>94363318>orrruk warclansAre they still insisting on ork soup? I thought we were done with that this edition
>>94364303I´ve seen it before with the underworld bands but i think this is the first time they are using it for something else
>>94364421I ment specifically for "blister" heroes.I guess comemorative guys had somehtign similar, but Hobrgot boss looks to be in some weird combo of an old blister and comemorative box
>>94363318Kino
>>94360289>>94360866As an Ogor player I say this from the heart.Fuck off and leave us aloneThe fact that they're still so close to the WFB iteration is why they're the best. None of this new design faggotry. Our kits are easy to assemble, easy to customize, cross compatible with every other kit in the range, not cluttered with details and not stupid as fuck like half of the AOS designs.They're survivors of the era of peak GW. They do not need replacing.
>>94364505>The fact that they're still so close to the WFB iteration is why they're the best. None of this new design faggotry. Our kits are easy to assemble, easy to customize, cross compatible with every other kit in the range, not cluttered with details and not stupid as fuck like half of the AOS designs.>They're survivors of the era of peak GW. They do not need replacing.This but for Crypt Horrors fags who call them outdated never did conversions with them, simply elegant model that's great base for much more if you so chose.
>>94364505>>94364554Mentaility like that is how you get squated.Then you can be unbothered by not even being in the releas cycle
>>94364558Fucking do it bitch. I don't care, I'll take my fatties and play TOW. Doesnt change the fact that modern GW design is a fucking nightmare and Ogre models are fantastic.
>>94363318they always cheap out on armour, it's unbelievable
>>94363318>orruk warclans>goblin
>>94363318>that modelHoly fuck, nice. I hope that he has high rend with that weapon. Just give me some other hobgrots as a cavalry and I'm golden>orruk warclansNevermind, I will be ending my life shortly
>>94364646That's not a goblin. He's yellow and twice the size of an actual goblin
>>94364670what about these dudes?
>>94363318so the pity model for the new Orruk Army book?
>>94364698Slaves
>>94364505OK well look forward to your whole ass army getting squatted then
>>94364744could be worse least the beastmen got a TOW retirement Savage Orcs weren't so luckly
>>94364670>>94364698the kruleboyz actually have 2 different species of grots working for them. the regular grots which serve as assistants, laborer's, beast handlers, and so on, performing dangerous, menial, or servile tasks for their orruk masters. then there are the hobgrots, which serve as more independent mercenary forces (it specifically calls the kruleboyz their employers, which means their cooperation is financially transactional) which accompany the kruleboyz but dont seem to be directly subservient to them, and also act as arms dealing intermediaries between the kruleboyz and the chaos dwarfs, who trade a steady supply of slaves for armor, weapons, and munitions, as well as dealing with other destruction races. they appear to be a mix of mercenaries and merchants, running a greenskin black market/silk road of sorts.
>>94364764The decision to develop kruleboyz for the 3e launch box instead of beefing up bonesplitterz or ironjawz is still weird to me even now. Aesthetically, narratively, all mechanically they're all so starkly at odds with what orcs had been like for the longest time.
>>94364787>or ironjawz
>>94364505I'm an oGOD and i want new kits but they don't replace the old ones. customizable maneaters kit, make a new kit that includes two new bodies and customizable parts that are compatible with the ironguts/gluttons
>including a warcry band in iti mean i like this warband but i'm not sure how i feel about this choice
>>94364922Those guys give Nurgle some much-needed shooting, it's a pretty standard thing to include in a regular Nurgle AoS list.
>>94364787Yeah, feels mostly the same way about it. I do like Kruleboyz and glad they got released, but at same time I'd preferred they spent the energy on developing bonepslitterz and ironjawz first before adding another stark looking orc faction and a few redundant units for Ironjawz when said faction still missing certain roles that could be filled instead (and was usually filled by bonesplitterz.) And with underworlds updating splitterz; I don't understand why not just relaunch the faction instead when they are unique enough as units and their shamans are very lovely design that stands out for the rest unlike Kruelboyz, who I do love, look kinda samey next to other faction army heroes of their type.Then again AoS is still a game where Fyreslayers are a lazily copy+pasted army model wise and have limited design space on the table despite their books having a great deal of detail for how they could be expanded to more than a few naked dwarves running around with different selection of weapons and a magmadroth leading the pack. And god forbid they release a hero who isn't the same type of hero they already released 3 fucking times. I just want more for both Ironjawz and Fyreslayers man.
>>94364922Warcry bands are just units. This is Nurgle version of Blisbarb
Hows spearhead? Im thinking about starting my AOS collectionI come from 40k and combat patrols wasnt well thought out
>>94359125Just switch to OPR, this game is too autistic to be fun anymore
>>94355677Why would anyone want to be near a cauldron of blood? If you worked in medicine youll know it smells like absolute shit when its not refrigerated. I can already smell it.
>>94365051except blissbarbs match the theme of the rest of the factionbamboo shields do not
>>94365155probably one of the more fun gamemodes GW has done. its the right level of enough models to be interesting, but not so many that you cant get a team up and running quickly. its well balanced, and despite the games small board and limited missions, the missions have good replayability through random cards and events that keep the game somewhat fresh. it plays fast, even for age of sigmar which is already significantly faster than 40k, and serves as a great onramp to the full game with most of the units rules and mechanics being fairly similar to the full game, with only minor adjustments to make the game mode more fair. its much better than combat patrol, and also doesnt tend to try to saddle you with strange forced loadouts you would never want to build your units with for the full game, with only a few exceptions (off the top of my head kharadron is the only one i can think of)
>>94365190They're ill guys in green. That's close enough
>>94365199The Idoneth one also tells you to build your shark and eels with the wrong equipment/as the wrong unit, but that's not a big deal.
Necromunda but for aos when
>>94365190And they'll get squatted in a year
>>94365305Lol no. They're here forever
>>94363318SYMMETRICUS LIVES
>>94365294can we trade underworlds for it?
>>94363318> same shitty blood effectYikes
>>94365036>just want more for both Ironjawz and Fyreslayers manDont you worry my man you will get your more in next footnote lore piece of the grand narrative where new SCE unit of knights excelsior mops the floor with naked, faceless dwarves on their way to purge the REAL enemy. See you in 5th ed and hope you fare better there!
Do we have scans of the new rules for dwarves and OBR from the latest WD?
>>94365375Oh boy, can't wait a much awaited release of a naked dwarf on foot with an axe in one hand and a torch in another. I only have to wait till 2027!
>>94365333After seeing the new underworlds I wouldn't mind.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-us/articles/zyxsgv6r/warhammer-underworlds-download-core-rules-organised-play-updates-and-digital-fighter-and-warband-warscrolls-now/Enjoy anons, I hope you like your 13 re-released digital warbands. Don't worry, if you have a warband without any rules you can just use the 2 generic ones for each of the 4 factions.
>>94365199Yeah but 3x3' table is a no no. Has anyone played it on normal 4x6' board?
>>94365425thats not how it works. spearhead is meant to be played specifically of the spearhead boards. they are baked into the missions, with objective cards calling out specific dias emblems
Question, 6 morghasts guy here: swords or halberd? I'm caught on which to swap one of them to so they can have the 4/2 split instead of 3/3 split. Or just keep it as 3/3 and mix them up.
>>94365412unbelievably lame. They really are trying to bury the older warbands as much as possible.
>>94365615Rules might flip next time they get updated. If you have a good idea for conversion do that one
>>94365433I don't care, playing wargame on 3x3 Is cucking yourself and calling it hobby.
>>94365412being a fan of underworlds must be insane suffering. the game just gets worse with every season, doesnt it?
>>94365676well, you're wrong. but given the tone of your responses has turned to shitposting i'm done explaining any more of it to you, so you can figure out for yourself why
>>94365686Not realy
>>94365686I was pretty happy with the most recent set, minus GW specifically not releasing the warbands so they could put them out for the "reboot" and them pumping out way too many coreboxes. This whole thing feels less like a reboot and more like the standard GW sales ploy. "Look everyone the game is much simpler now and you only need this one new box" after effectively pointlessly gutting everything and making minimal changes.
>>94365699dude I asked about specific thing and you go all autism about how they designed it for this and that. I get it but I don't want to play 3x3'... it's not wargame anymore but just board game. I can adapt rules I have been doing it for some time.
>>94363874Gotta say 4 armed oni/asura orcs would be pretty cool
>>94365675I'll probably wind up some more bits. I'm changing my Sepulchural stalkers into Immortis so maybe I'll use the swords from them for either a big glaive or cooler looking swords.
>>94363318>Design half a model>Hit mirror image
>>94361266im so fucking angry it's not in the STD roster
>>94365888Retard post
>>94365992They called him retard because he spoke the truth.
>>94365992ENTER
>>94365992RETNE
>>94366089Just let me have fun you fuck
>>94366010>>94366018looks like a tough one, not gonna liebase stats seem equal, lower hob seems to give up a reliable baton for a double edged tool, aside from that we have to assume there may be differences in boosts from the trophies, with baton hob having some esoteric choice in the hands while lower hob going for pure brutalityI say bottom hob has got it
>>94366089Easy now, suggesting that an ounce of creativity or individuality might be nice may cause the kids severe emotional trauma and soiled underwear. They really need the warm, safe embrace of familiarity to not freak out.
>>94364066>>94363828>>94364025Thanks for the input all, pulled the trigger on Skaventide, will likely pick up the Soulblight spearhead too for variety. Bringing over a few friends who are interested in learning AoS and 40k.Does spearhead have any co-op/ >2 players rules or homebrews?
>>94365768NTA but> the size of the board is what makes it a wargameOk retard. If you didn't just want to 'play a board game' you won't he playing AoS . It's all it is at this point.But if you don't want to play on the spear head board... just increase the size of the board and change the objective locations to match. The shit isn't difficult, at all. This WILL mean you score less, as the objective cards basically assume you can get across the board in one move+charge (as you can on the normal board). But that can be tweeked or just accepted as part of the game.Also, anyone with a lot of shooting (ie Sylvaneth with the biw hunters) just got a lot more powerful on a bigger board.
>>94366269No.Just have 4 people and split into two teams.
Are Kruleboyz chimpanzees and Bonesplitterz gorillas?
>>94366376noironjaws are orks, kruleboys are orqs, splitters are orcsunderstand?
>>94366376Yes but only if FEC are baboons.
>>94365628Nah man, eyes of the nine got a buff. Look, the brimstone horror and blue horror are just out now!
>>94366376Kb are more orangutans than chimps
>>94366527Orangutans are dumber and peacful. Kruleboyz are peak inteligence and violent for no reoson
Anyone have the pdf of 4E core book including PtG?
>>94366644I'm assuming this has everyhting
>>94366706thanks anon
>>94366706And now give me the 4e battletomes.
>>94364780Why don’t they just give better slaves for better weapons are they both stupid this is very inefficient
>>94365294God I wish. Necromunda is probably my favourite game, would love an AoS version
Is cursed city a good start for a soulblight gravelords army?I like pic related and the zombies/Skeletons but I feel like it's not worth it when compared to the spearhead box and I'm paying extra for stuff I don't need like the order heroes.
>>94367015Guessing you're the anon who just bought Skaventide, it's not really comparable to the spearhead since there's a couple of catches. Zombies and Skeletons only come in 10 so you'll need to nab an extra 10 of each to fill them out, the heroes are good since you get a better necromancer and a decent vampire lord alongside a wight king equivalent. You get a little elite squad of vampires with the Vrykos, you get some bodyguard ogryn zombies that I really don't think they're particularly needed but they're fun models.It's a starting place but you'll end up probably spending more than you would in general just picking up the spearhead and the extra dudes you want. Unless you're really wanting those models it's not worth it. (Also you get a board game, but if you're not interested in that either it's double not worth it) I'm giving this advice as a guy who bought Cursed city years back and now has daisy chained myself all the death armys.
>>94366269Nice, the models fit rather nicely together so unlike with the orks there is very little gluing or gap filling to get the looking right.
>>94367078that's a different anon, but cool to see others like death too. I also just bought the spearhead for Soulblight, though>>94367103Looking forward to it. Continuing to paint my necrons while I wait
>>94367110Honestly I got Skaven initially expecting to be all in but then daisy chained a series of deals into death and realized I like Skeletons and Ghouls more than I like the few cool Skaven. I think skaven are still great but the Death factions in AoS are all great.
>>94366859Hobgrots run around with granades, that's way better than what most people have in the setting
>>94367123Death has always been my favorite in WHTH games, if there were a death box with two spearheads I would have bought that. But I want to have a few spearhead options for friends who will be learning with me to play anyway, so it works out. I do kind of like SCE and Skaven too, so it works out I guess
>>94367160WHTW*
>>94367160At least you're buying into the spearhead, I fucked up and just kinda get random bullshit here and there from local stuff or ebay. It's fucked since I want to play spearhead but I kinda had to hodgepodge my way into having the units for spearheads instead of just having them outright.
>>943600825ft edition skaven,And ogre.tomes
>>94367366Here's 5th ed Skavenhttps://files.catbox.moe/rffskf.jpg
>>94363318Needs more armour. I like it otherwise.
>>94367078>It's a starting place but you'll end up probably spending more than you would in general just picking up the spearhead and the extra dudes you want. Unless you're really wanting those models it's not worth it. I thought as much and that you only get 10 zombies/Skeletons is also ass.I remember that you could buy the death characters from cursed city separately but I don't find them on the store anymore.
>>94367964There was a "Radakurs Court" box but it also fuckin' sucked. I don't think it even had them all in one and cost about as much as the fucking game itself.They're cool sculpts and all but it's probably more of a hassle than it's worth for what you get. If you enjoy the idea though Radakur (big beefed up version) and a few other similar characters exist in Soulblight but no Vargulf, Vampire squad, Shovel... Thing, etc will be available.
>>94368015>Shovel... ThingI always seen him as a Pyraimd-Head standin despite having very little do do with him
>>94368099He's a cool dude admittedly, I have yet to paint him since I went whole hog on skeletons and kinda left my zombies to metaphorically rot. I've got so many fuckin models i'm bumping back and fourth on at this point.
does anyone have the most recent LRL tome?
>>94367015Not really. You get 10 zombies, with the smallest group you can field is 20, 10 deathrattle skeletons, which is half a box, 3 units exclusive to the game, all of which kind of suck, some character with no rules (the heros), and a handful of underwhelming characters. The only good thing is radakur and maybe torgillius if you like a deep strike flanking style.
>>94368327https://files.catbox.moe/z2y41k.pdf
>>94368432thank you kitten
>>94365628Some of the generic warband abilities are pretty pushed. One of the order ones lets you inspire whenever one of you guys starts in friendly territory and makes a successful attack and makes you immune to partial and full support on defense while in friendly territory.
>>94354733I dropped a rock on my model.
Watching Vince Venturella paint his Skaven makes me want to buy the Skaventide box. I don't have any AOS models, but I feel like my pile of shame is too big. Is the Skaventide book any good?
>>94368697Check ebay, I saw a massive fuckoff lot today for decently cheap.
>>94361805>>94361839Would have been nice to get the Cardinal too.
New morbegs have one knight lady as a rider. OK. That torso have diffrent neck socket so only 3 female helmets dont gave gaps when you swap. Fuck you too James.Also almost no bits like weapons ect.
>>94364922If I just wanted the Harbringer would I be able to unload the rest and get most of my money back?
>>94369129I wouldn't count on it being a fast or profitable venture. Either you get rid of the shit and maybe break even, or you sit on it for awhile to walk away with some scratch.The Harbinger is probably 70% of why that box is desirable. I've never seen Maggotkin players lust for anything like him.
>>94367392Another Skryre bites the dust
>>94368940I mean there is no reason they couldn't have done Cardinal, Goremayne, and Executioner and dropped the crypt X's. They would never do that but still.
>>94369293That would've made my Christmas
>>94368548Lel
>>94365199Are any of the spearhead boxes especially good or bad?
>>94369532DoK is a bit of a funny one, generally you will go elves or Sneks and it has a bit of both.If you want a combined force it's a good start. Warlocks are ugly but actually decent in game this edition.Gitz is just great.Those are my 2 armies, can't super comment on others
>>94369532Cities is very poor overall, I can vouch for that personally.In my experience:Skaventide's Spearheads are good, GSG is very reliant on the Troggoths, Seraphon is pretty solid, and the Yndrasta one is too.Cities is: can you get a good card to use twice and how well is that cannon going to roll. If both of those are below "very well" you're mostly fucked.
>>94369532FEC is pretty decent, gives you the best hero with the archregent, OBR seems eh but good calue cuz it's an elite army? If anyone can correct me on either please do.
It’s amazing what a shitty spot imperial agents are in right now from an investment standpoint. Either half your range gets squatted next edition or the models get updates which sure as shit will get new base sizes that invalidate old models. You also have the chance of getting wholly ignored as well.
>>94369532I don't the Skaven box but that's because I hate the Stormfields models. Plus the clanrats can be bought cheaper "used" anywhere so it's not really a good value box. The Nighthaunt is pretty underwelming too but saves you quite a bit of money. Well they all save you money compared to buying the individual units but I bet you can get most of the basic units cheaper online if you look.
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>>94354733I got a bunch of Stormcast models at an auction, does anyone know where I can find the points for them?
>>94370674https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-age-of-sigmar/Core Rules and Key Downloads -> "Battle Profiles and Rules Updates"
>>94370674https://www.listbot.co.uk/listbot/also here's an army builder for aos 4.0
Anyone have SCE painted up? Trying to decide on a paint scheme, would be interested in seeing what any anons have done with theirs
>>9436970540k thread is down the hal and to the left
>>94371317Here you go anon. This colour scheme seems to resonate deeply with many not only in the SCE community but AoS in general.
>>94371491>thumbnailYou can't even save images right.
Do we know when the new battletome for std is coming out yet ?
>>94371494Damn. I sure as hell won't be sleeping well tonight after this.
>>94371496Probably in December
>>94371491I like it on fabric heavy armies like old Freeguild but flat coloured armour looks too 40k
Any FECbro around with fun list without Big U?? Everyone I try I'm 80 short or 10-20 above the line.Abhorrant Archregent (190)[General]- 40 x Crypt Ghouls (340)- 6 x Crypt Horrors (300)- 10 x Cryptguard (120)Abhorrant Gorewarden (160)- 3 x Crypt Flayers (170)- 3 x Morbheg Knights (170)- 3 x Crypt Flayers (170)Abhorrant Ghoul King (120)[Savage Beyond Reason]- 1 x Varghulf Courtier (180)[Charnel Vestments]- 1 x Royal Decapitator (100)Charnel Throne2020/2000pts3 drops
>>94371804Everytime*
>>94371491>painted in colours of T.>thumbnail imageWhat did the Anon mean by that?
>>94372030Anon's not used to 4chan layout being different from Discord
>>94372030He 41%'d the image
Does only the Clawlord on Gnaw-beast and Stormvermin kit come with a pistol? I know the Master Moulder technically comes with one too, but that's a dart gun.
>Want a Lord-Vigilant for my Dominion guys >Arbitrarily these bogstandard Stormcast don't work with this bogstandard Stormcast so get fucked and used a chunky ass fatcast dracoth hero we'll squat in a year instead
I really hope warcry doesn’t get price hiked like kill team for Jewish reasons. Have we gotten an idea on what the underworld warbands will cost now btw?
>>94371491I think you should've posted this in /40kg/ instead anon. I'm sure you'd have gotten way more attention you so desperately crave there
I now decided against cursed city and instead bought the spearhead.I really like kastelai their warrior theme is really nice and the crimson keep is also a cool concept. Prince vordrai is also a interesting character and I like that all bloodlines can join the kastelai which gives the option to include vyrkos/avengori units.I also have two questions 1. Is there a completely closed helmet in the blood knights kit or is the mouth part always free. I want to head swap the vampire lord the spaghetti hair looks awful.2. There was a picture of a vampire kastelai/order of the blood dragon girl in anime style but I can't find it anywhere can someone post it.
>>94372685Best of luck anon welcome to death and all that stuff.
>>94372685Idk, about the blood knight kit, but the most commone headswap for the Vampire Lord is Knight of Shrouds
>>94372750That's a rough fuckin kitbash price wise but I can see it.personally if I had to pay for a foot hero I'd just pay 10 bucks more for the crimson court
>>94370623Damn that's good. The LoC was one of my first really big units. I hope I can get to that level eventually.
Could Nagash beat him in a one on one fight?
>>94369660Yeah, cities definetly is burdened by the cannon rng (also the "weaker" grapeshot flat out does more damage statistically). One homebrew solution I thought of was to replace the cav marshall with a fusil major. But maybe then it would be too OP. Another annoyance is how make or break the cavalry is. Its awsome to delete shit when you charge, but a bad roll can lead to them getting stuck in combat and lose figures, becoming way weaker, like some sort of elite HoMM unit that gets widdled down by chaff.
>>94373857>my freeguild comes from trench crusade
>>94360210I'd like more ogres but I really don't care for their current lore, especially the subsection that gets chased by winter. I was going to get the Spearhead/vanguard when 4th was coming out but you guys talked me out of it with what happened with BoC.
>>94373857I love Necromunda too
>>94374000I feel like ogres in their current form barely differentiate themselves from the other destruction factions.They are not the big retard melee faction because that's warclans, they have goblins but there is a entire faction of those too.Ogres have the most shooting I guess but even then kruleboyz have their crossbows and their ballista.
>>94372745The best grand alliance honestly all factions look great and they are much more interesting as antagonists than chaos.>>94372750I already get the extra blood knight helmet with the spearhead box so it would be the cheapest option for me I asked if there is a closed version in the kit because it looks cooler on a foot hero.
Why does GW despise mixed demon armies? They barely give a fuck about Belakor
>>94375261nobody ever actually liked mixed demons and belakor will never feel at home anywhere until gw makes a range of undivided demons or you accept that his place is amongst the slaves to darkness as the big leader in opposition to archaon
>>94354733Since underworlds are in a peculiar place. I Got Ogre pirate band for half a price.
>>94375356And...now I notieced those bits in his beard...FML
>>94375356Pretty dull and boring scheme imo
>>94375356Sucks his Warband was nowhere near as good as Hrothgorn.
Wait, do the fucking Morteks on horses have little winged hussar bits on their backs? What the fuck are the ossiarchs even supposed to be. I feel like there's bits of every historial dweebs favorite thing shoved into random spots.
>>94375295I was perusing the comments on a recent youtube video discussing if GW will eliminate the daemons codex from 40k and there was an astonishing number of people claiming to have mixed daemon armies and who are worried about them being squatted. I can't fathom how so many people actually like the clown vomit lore rape army.
>>94375538It's kind of the point: The OBR are Nagash's project to synthesize a perfect army by mashing together aspects of different warrior cultures, while making the warriors comprise bones from various creatures.
DoK, does anybody of you play all aelves? How is that part of the army? I have seen all snakes, but is it possible to run list with 100+ elves, something likeKretusa as general4x20 Witch AelvesCauldronGladiatrix2x20 Witch Aelves
>>94375668Yeah. Either go elves or Sneks.I would put some Shadowstalkers or doomfires in there to give you some more speed too
So i assume pic related will get a unique model, most likely as the pity hero for the battletome.It's also the only named character that is still just a generic kit and a fantasy leftover as far as im aware.
>>94375901would be a bit odd to call it a pity hero considering they're also getting new graveguard etc.
Is there some collection of the lore bits from various Underworlds sets? I've seen one of them in person and it had a ton of great art and lore about the region where the set takes place, would be cool to look at all of em
>>94375901>big special character on monster>pity herono wonder you play soilblight
>>94375960I wouldn’t call graveguard just yet anymore, before the VLOZD rumor I did, but that’s changed since the rumor came out. The halberd could just be a weapon option for him and GW has a track record of up to 3 Rumor Engines for a single model.
>>94375295>nobody ever actually liked mixed demonsFUI play with demons in 40k and they are fun army, chaos is ultimate soup tome but GW made some decisions and gotta pull that weight now.
>>94375668>120thats a lot of bodies
>>94375538>What the fuck are the ossiarchs even supposed to be.cool boneboys
Whenever I feel annoyed about AoS 4.0 I just remember that chuardin are coming next year
>>94375538I think that's a gelmet piece, not a back piece.But OBR theam is "cradle of civilisation" which gives them acces to any culture in its early formative appearance.Most notably they're a mix of Meditorenia and far East
>>94375261>demons have rules balanced around the god armies>mixed demons mix conflicting balancing from 4 factions They're a rules mess. When they were legal it was just spamming strongest Khorne martials and Tzeentch wizards for a Jack of all traits and master of all to win
>>94373932>tfw the Grapeshot is better than the cannon ball and it's still assI've said it since the box was announced: replace the cannon with Fusiliers. The cannon is probably the most out of place model there. It's meant to be a small scouting party/part of a larger strike force. Who the fuck is going to lug a cannon when you have 6 dudes on horses and 10 footsloggers?It also solves the issue of playing a horde-y army with only one batch of horde models.
When do Stormcast and or sigmar get to win again we’ve been getting our ass kicked since the forbidden power
>>94363318what a bad pose
>>94377027I wish that he were posed mid-swing or with the sword resting on his shoulder cockily.
>>94376514Never.After Morathi blasted your asses so badly back in 2nd ed, you will never recover
>>94375901I've never enjoyed this model every much. Tactical rocks don't tend to bug me but the tactical limestone traffic cone is not to my taste. I think the pose kinda boring and wish he was either more fleshy or had no flesh at all
How fast does this list get tabled? I’m trying to make an order army with the least amount of effort with the kits I have and this is what I came up with. Thunderstrike 3 2000/2000 pts-----Grand Alliance Order | Stormcast Eternals | Thunderhead HostDrops: 3Spell Lore - Lore of the StormPrayer Lore - Prayers of the StormhostsManifestation Lore - Primal Energy-----General’s RegimentKrondys, Son of Dracothion (560)• GeneralKnight-Vexillor (120)Praetors (150)---Regiment 1Yndrasta, the Celestial Spear (340)Liberators (110)Prosecutors (140)---Regiment 2Knight-Draconis (250)Stormdrake Guard (330)• 2 Drakerider’s Warblade-----Faction TerrainStormreach Portal-----Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The AppApp: v1.4.0 (15) | Data: v181
>>94376514That was 3rd edition anon. And 4 years ago...
>>94377553Whoops, meant for >>94377078
>>94377553>>94377561Nope, BR was end of 2nd
>>94377791>>94377791>>94377791
