Catch Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, 'woke' culture war, or discord shit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo dieselpunk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online, but are split between the website and the discord. They have all been collected here for your convenience:https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc>Trench CompendiumCompendium: https://trenchcompendium.netlify.app/Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/k44MxmJxWu3upDHT8>Previous thread:>>94343178
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New subfaction for New Antioch, The Red Brigade.Sadly, despite it's name, it's not Slavic in origin, but rather a suicide squad of sorts. One with a lot of War Dogs.
>>94367906(also, added to the Mega)Red Brigade is also what the Westfalia TC Minis kickstarter is about.
>>94367906Thats a pretty neat team, like its based on trophy hunting, that ability to earn an extra glory point for any glorious deed and recovering all equipment from the fallen is great. I really dont know what to build for at this point still and they are still adding more cool shit. Still waiting on a mechanized NA faction that focuses on the engineers and does something interesting to their heavies.
Is there a reason why the heretics are depicted as german soldiers and the "good" guys as brits?Dont get me wrong, I like it that way, they look great, just curious if there is a lore reason behind it such as German crusader being the ones who opend the gates of hell for exampleor if its simply the lack of models so far.
>>94367962the good guys you mean antioch? are a hodgepodge of nationalities.Yeah heretics are kinda on the nose nazilike. They also have uboats.To balance it out theres an antioch subfaction coming thats Prussians. they look like wolfenstein.
>>94367962Germans are evil, Brits are good. That's the way it is in the Monster Manual innit. Simple as.
>>94367962Because the HL are "bad" you get to have cool aesthetics, consider that if they were NA they would have to just wear normal uniforms and weapons>NAWW1, pick your flavour of faction. If you want to play as an equivelent of WW1 germans the prussians are a faction.>HLWW2 germans, pick your flavour. You have a faction that gets to design around the best looking faction of WW2, thats great.With HL you can play as the naval assault forces faction and just run a bunch of blitzkrieg SMG guys if you dont want to use their wierdo units.
>>94367988>>94367984I really hope they add something interesting lorewise such as the german crusaders cursing the blood of the germanic people because of what they did and explain down the line what the consequences were and how they effected the civilians.Something cool to read if the project gets bigger and they maybe add literature.Its very disappointing to think its gonna be just the generic "German steel helmet = evil guys"What a wasted oppurtunity that would be...
>>94367962It's because germans, as a people, collectively have the mark of Cain
>>94368077>such as the german crusadersYou can play as Prussia.
>>94368077its more interesting that they are nazis but sooner. it implies weird timeline distortions and stuff.Like is Hell somehow getting knowledge of future technology from an alternate timeline
...am I not suppose to make Mitchell and Webb jokes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY
>>94368077Prussia is a faction in this anon, if you want german crusaders just run armoured units like the shocktroopers.
>>94368118You're not to engage with people trying to derail the thread into discussions about IRL Religions/Discord/Reddit stuff. It all gets removed because it always derails the thread.
>>94368120>>94368087I dont necessarily care about the prussians (altough they are cool), with the crusaders I were referring to the beginning of the horror that ensued.From what I understand, the Trench Crusade universe differed from our universe at the end of the first crusade.The europeans were succesfull in taking Jerusalem, but opened the gates of hell, beasts, nightmareish figures and far more terrifying monster haunted the world ever since then.I was just spitballing some lore up as to why the Germans are so prominent in the Heretic Legion >german crusaders cursing the blood of the germanic people because of what they did (Opening the gates of hell despite the other crusader being against this decision?)thus dooming the germans in their homeland to be eternal servants to the devil
>>94368273Edit: please read my OP >>94367962
>>94368061Why is "bad" in quotations
Do you think TC could smoothly transition to a grimdark dieselpunk setting?
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>>94368321I mean it already is, it just also has some spooky faith science and supernatural stuff sprinkled in.
i lik it when the uh when the knight guys fight the german demon guys with the Penitent dudes :)
>>94368419I like it when the Hell Priest announces surprise Taco Tuesday.
>>94367906>6 subfactions for Antioch>Trench Pilgrims, the most iconic faction, still at 2 despite several more being named, including the flamerthrower subfactionCool though. Glad you can still take two sniper priests, as my first thought was the russian widows of WW2.>>94367962Reminds me of Hellsing Ultimate, which had KKK-looking dudes with capriotes and gun halberds vs vampire nazi stormtroopers. Probably just the aesthetic is top for anything that's a brutal war.
>>94368454Antioch is clearly their Imperium or Ultramarine
>People make warbands for the New Antioch on Etsy>No trench pilgrim shitAm i crazy? Why is there no Pilgrim love theyre clearly the coolest factions
>>94368316Becuase anon identified a faction as "good" guys so Im using his verbage to describe the "bad" guys.
Loving the setting, totally wanna play, but no idea what Faction I wanna get intoNone of them are really speaking to me :/
>>94368592I know. Im just waiting for someone to make prints of helmet designs so I can just run with my own stuff.
>>94368736New Antioch and Heretic Legions are good as entry factions. Just kitbash some medieval shit with some WW1 shit and you've got 99.9% of the warband done. All the other ones will take more effort so getting one of the easier ones out of the way so you can play a few games while/to help you decide where you'll want to settle.
God I can't wait for them to roll out Metamorphosis, Beast, and the Slavamps.
How funny would it be if TC had its own version of the Christmas truce
>>94368273>The europeans were succesfull in taking Jerusalem, but opened the gates of hell, beasts, nightmareish figures and far more terrifying monster haunted the world ever since then.It will only end when the heretics succeed in taking the Vatican, only to discover unknown divine artifacts beneath and unwittingly open the gates of heaven. Pottery, it flows.
>>94369110>open the gates of heaven.That's the goal though. Storm those gates by force.
>>94369058>turn the cross sideways as a compromise>use the head of a member of the iron sultanate as a football>a wretched scores a match winning point and earns freedom>antioch engineers build a recreation of the manger, heretics provide the bodies to fill it>the heretic's roast tastes a bit off but is surprisingly well seasoned once you get past the burnt part>antioch soldiers receive presents of porno mags, heretics get hand carved crosses (they're universal as they can be turned upside down)
>>94369163>a wretched scores a match winning point and earns freedomThats pretty funny, like he just teleports away as hes celebrating.
>death commando failed 4 dashes over 4 rounds>fired his pistol twice all game, dealt one blood marker>never got into melee combat>diedmore funny than anything since it was a one off game that ended in a draw, but if that had happened in a campaign i'd be seething
>>94369206Only one game in on TTS but I didn't realize when I chose Naval Raiding Party that the +1 die to dashing would be the most important part of their rules. It's incredible. That and mountaineering kits for climbing out of walled trenches; shame they're limited for whatever reason.Death Commando in my game eviscerated three people before a Lieutenant put them down, although I forgot the -1 dice to be hit with ranged. Then rolled Strength of Samson post-game and the +1 to injury die seems brutal. Shame claws are cumbersome or I'd take a shield.
>>94369285>climbing out of walled trenchesyou don't need to climb out of trenches, they're considered to have footholds(page 6 in the PDF). my and my group just count them as vertical movement, usually 2"but yeah, enemy dashes are outright the most impactful way to use blood markers outside of a bloodbath. stopping a big scary melee praetor from doing anything all turn by forcing it to roll its dash with -3 dice is massive
>>94369163>TC Blood Bowl.
>>94369336>you don't need to climb out of trenches, they're considered to have footholds(page 6 in the PDF)Ah shit, that makes sense, we were wonderingBut yeah having consistent vs inconsistent dashes is kind of crazy. 100+ ducat auto shotgun stormtrooper chased one of my 40 ducat bolt action dudes off a point after firing a shot, kept chasing until he realized it would be impossible to get back in range of someone who always moves double and he's just eating gun fire for trying. Eventually (permanently) died due to the blood markers from the attempt. Had the trooper run across the map to cap an abandoned point while I was at it.Keep an eye out for anything that adds dash dice, almost guarantees double movement or move+charge every turn. Although musical instruments seem a little awkward with how short their radius is, but war wolves are gonna move 16" (+d6 if charge) every turn and Wrath court has three options for +dash.
>>94369163>heretics get hand carved crosses (they're universal as they can be turned upside down)kek
i can honestly think of no reason to not spend the extra 5 ducats for assault when it comes to comparing bolt action rifles to semi auto riflesmaybe if i absolutely need to drop 5 ducats somewhere, but even then i'd probably try and make up the difference somewhere elseperhaps SARs need a range debuff or bolt actions need a slight range buff to make it an actual choice?
>>94369206Maybe he should have just done regular movements and taken the long range penalties, then dashed after. Why use your risky action early if you're not setting up a charge?
>>94369591>Why use your risky action early if you're not setting up a charge?because i was, every single time i tried ithe was infiltrated right up the board, almost in range to charge each time. he moved a total of 6" the whole game(i just moved normally and shot in round 5 since i'd given up on him and only need him to screen an objective)it was just one of those freak statistical outliers that seem to happen more than they mathematically should
>>94369463>almost guarantees double movementWell I went and found the math after posting this, seems it's 80% vs the normal 58%Wouldn't call it almost guaranteed, although it sure feels that way when you only fail two dashes over a 6 turn game with 7 models
>>94369163>>turn the cross sideways as a compromise
If anyone replies to this shit I swear upon The Iron Wall
>>94368463Imagine if it was called Eldarhammer 40k. Nothing else about it changed, marines were still the poster boys but who got all the releases, but a side faction was the name of the whole thing.
>>94369808Hi, I see you're having trouble following the rules for the general. To help, what faction are you playing/planning to play. Feel free to post some photos of your warband.
Got myself a 3D printer lads!Gonna try printing a free model online and painting it!
Local should be hooking me up with some pilgrim units soon as well as the free dude and dog. I should go with a black primer to get a darker look for the browns of their clothes right?
>>94369919King, make sure you show us. Also make sure you use protection. Resin is bad stuff. Make sure you're not doing it anywhere near your family, pets, kids or whatever.
>>94367984>Prussians. they look like wolfenstein.Got any art pics? Sounds amazing.>>94367984>>94367962Now you guys got me having an autism and feeling like pic related. Maybe the deliberate usage of the stahlhelm to represent the forces of hell being the bad guys with no exception was cultural oversight if I'm being honest. I would prefer if the forces of hell looked like a mishmash of corrupted looking western front WW1 uniforms that got aesthetically "helli-fied" if that makes sense. I'd like to see some heretic legionaries in corrupted looking WW1 British, French and American uniforms. Speaking of America what lore do we have about the new world?
>>94369975Sadly did not get a Resin printer I have a FL SUN SR
>>94369979Ooh I dunno about that. FDM printers can't do minis for shit and that's a lot of money to spend on something that can't print minis if you're only using it to print minis.
>>94369977check out the 2 million ducats update
>>94370002I only spent 100 and ive seen the quality, I think its fine desu. I care more about the painting then le high def details
>>94370010>I care more about the painting then le high def detailsWell the problem is with the painting. To be fair, I've never tried painting FDM minis, so I have no idea, but from what I've seen, FDM stuff has lines all over it. That will make it very hard to paint, because paint will catch on the raised edges of the lines and stand out. Like if you want to drybrush something, I feel like that would be impossible. Hopefully I am proved wrong though.
>>94369977>Speaking of America what lore do we have about the new world?very littlecolonization never happened due to all resources being directed to fronts foreign and domesticspain/portugal are said to have made contact with native americans and actively trade for goods such as tobacco with them, heretic submarines permittingthe heretics using submarines but also having naval supremacy is a very odd thematic misstep imo
>>94370003>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1405364378/trench-crusade/posts/4246128Are you referring to the pickelhaube lad and the thing next to him?Looks pretty good so far.
>>94369975Do we have many stls? I've got a resin printer, have printed tons of 40k stuff (and posted a bit on 3dpg) so I'm quite confident I can get decent models out.
>>94370028Guess we will have to seeI will print a Prisoner soon (my favorite troop and what got me into the game) and post resultspeople can say its gay after or not
Praise be the lord we will break 3.2 million by the end
>>94370043yeah. I think they are trying to say Heretics are made led by Prussians and Teutonic templars but not all of them are heretics. Theres some faithful.
>>94370052I donated for the book. Kickstarter only asked for my zip code and no address. I have donated to STL kickstarters before but not a actual physical product kickstarter so I'm a little nervous about getting my book.
>>94370046They aren't released yet, but you can get them on the kickstarter. I imagine you'll get them pretty quickly after that through the pledge manager when you pick what you want. If you mean do we have them for free yet, then no, but I'm sure that will also be pretty soon after the kickstarter.
>>94370047I'm still keen to see the result either way.
>>94370064Fair yeah. They seemed quite expensive on the kickstarter when I glanced at it. Unless I was misunderstanding.
>>94370059They will probably ask you when theyre done, which wont be for like a year
The anti-tank communicant is so fucking goodHe just hangs around 18-36" range being really good at picking up 2-4 enemy models a game, but he's juussstt a little too tough and out of reach to make dedicating activations to take him out worth it if you position him well and use blood markers to force some flubbed hit rollsIf you're playing a one shot game and have 5 glory he's always worth taking. If you're playing a campaign as antioch or pilgrims save up 5 glory NOW and thank me laterI love this lanky anti-tanky nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>94370071Hard to say. The prices on myminifactory are all over the price. You can get a soldier from between 50 cents to 30 dollars. I'd say 7 bucks for 1 elite infantry model STL is pretty expensive though. I mean you can print as many as you want, so still better than 13 for 1 physical mini.
>>94368454>Hellsing Ultimate mentionedHow would the Major from Hellsing fare in the Trench Crusade universe as a heretic legions commander?I really like the Schaft cover of Broken English (I think it fits the theme of Trench Cruade too) that played during the missile striking of London scene. You gotta skip the first 50 seconds to get to the music though. That Goebbels speech wasn't edited into the zeppelin over London scene it is actually in the song.
>>94370059>>94370083All that info is going in the pledge manager which is supposed to be right after the kickstarter.
>>94370083Hopefully that is the case, I guess I'll have to keep a close eye on it like I have with Wargames Atlantic's The Damned Gamefound.
>>94370091literally A*ch in anime form
>>94370089Yeah. I was thinking the faction buys, since I'm sure I'd want a whole faction.The STLs are on the kickstarter but they're not actually being sent to anyone yet right?
>>94370091yeah i like that song, i remember someone put a really rad german metal song to the Capirote army in Hellsing.I was sad it vanished
>>94370108Man it's spelled Arch I think.
>>94370087>Antitank is OP vs infantry Well, yeah. Checks out.
>>94369808>he started this general because he was saltyThat OP left a while ago, he got banned for shitposting and deleted the old mega in a hissyfit. I’m the new OP and operate the new mega. I just like the setting, I’m only in the discord to snag files so you fags don’t have to go there to get them yourselves, as well as grab images of warband that look cool.
>>94370113Nah, only content creators have their hands on some of them at the moment.
>>94370128is there a gallery of all the art uncensored
>>94370087After putting about 15~ blood markers onto a machine armored heavy infantry and still failing to kill him, despite I and my opponent accidentally allowing him to be downed, I'm thinking anti-materiel rifles and satchel charges and whatnot are really going to make or break matches and thus warbands in campaigns.Heavy armor is so good. -3 means your opponent HAS to roll double 6's to take you out unless they can bloodbath or direct hit with artillery or something, which is like a third of the odds of being taken out with -2. And not being able to be downed makes getting bloodbathed more difficult.
>>94370128>I’m only in the discord to snag files so you fags don’t have to go there to get them yourselves, as well as grab images of warband that look cool.Thank you for your service.
>>94370133No, annoyingly. The only time I’ve actually posted in there was if there was one and to tell them to make an archive for it.
>>94370133Considering they are trying to sell a book where the main hook is the art and the lore, I can't imagine they'll want it just free to access.
>>94370130Shame. Honestly I'm not even sure which warband I'd want to do. Probably trench pilgrims. Nothing has quiiiiite grabbed me yet at least in the official minis, so, I might wind up looking for proxies/third parties or even learn to do a tiny bit of digital kitbashing.
>>94370152i mean all the art already freely available
>>94370152Anon the files are in the OP, you can just have them for free already. I intend to just print them out myself.
>>94370121To be fair, he'll more often than not want to be targeting things that would be insulted enough to torture you for all eternity if you classified them as simple "infantry">>94370137>Heavy armor is so goodYeah, -3 is so unbelievably strong on something with Tough if you don't have a reliable way to roll 3d6 or ignore armour.I violently exorcised a 210 ducat desecrated saint in two activations by bonking it with an anchorite's wheel then doming him with a AT commie(the mald from my brother will sustain me for weeks), but we then played another game the day after as sultanate vs heretic legions and i just couldn't shift his war wolf, even after hitting hit with 3 bloodbaths because i had nothing to deal with it. Turns out getting 12 from 3d6 is actually a lot harder than you might think, and failing 3 1/3 chances is pretty fucking high all things considered
It happenedThoughts?
>>94370253lol the previous gen doubted my prediction
>>94370253Makes me wonder if I'll see my minis by the end of 2025.Or if they'll even be of good quality.
>>94370195>wondered why TP had so few elites>communicant with armour and shield, can choose to step into line of fire/melee for friendly units, and loses a blood marker each turn>prophet can remove blood markers from friendlies nearby>on levelling up the communicant gets 2 livesLike, so long as the elites stick together they are practically unkillable unless youre an idiot, give them weapons with critical and just bait those critical hits while outlasting the enemy, and the 6 elite limit per warband is that you can ressurect those pilgrims into martyrs where they now have a "-1 to any injury rolls", put some shields and armour on those and level them to make them elites so they can get abilities and you have some pretty nutty units, like its actually worth making elites out of TPs bog standard infantry. Some factions just start good, where others build up over time.NA is the only one I cant think of as being very strong, it seems their thing is tha they can replace losses very cheaply, where other factions need glory on their more impressive weapons, NA can just slap them on cheapo infantry, even if they die there isnt much of a loss for it to recover for the next game.
>>94370253Hoping for wargame rules, skirmish games are hard to get people for as they require multiple sessions to actually work, and I like the setting enough that I would like to build big armies for any of them.
>>94370280sad stl it is
>>94370280They're printing on ABS-like. Probably either Sunlu, Elegoo or Sarayatech. Sirayatech? Whatever. That one. I print on Sunlu ABS-like and it's really quite a nice resin. My printer is only a 2k screen Mars 1 (more importantly, 50 micron pixel size), but, these 5 Witchseekers and their bases were all printed on it. So I would assume that the quality will be this or better, since the company they're working with is likely printing on like 23 micron pixel size printers.
>>94370294>they require multiple sessions to actually workSays who?
>>94370317Those bricks look too chocolatey. Th paint job is great, but all I can think about is how tasty the floor looks.
>>94370294>skirmish games are hard to get people for as they require multiple sessions to actually workWhat? None of my friends will get into a wargame, but I can convince them to get 10 or so figures.
bear in mind theres solo rules coming.
>>94370317I'll see how it goes when the product does roll out. Never done resin before, so it'll be a learning experience either way. And, if I hate it, I'll just go kitbash my army like everyone else.
>>94370318The rules are made for a campaign. Like TPs pilgrims ability to ressurect is useless outside of a campaign game, as it requires they die in one game to come back in the next one, some units are just not very good until they level up and become elites too, where factions like Court just start with a full list of elites.
>>94370329The base coat is Willow Bark Xpress Color by Vallejo, then the red overtop is Burnt Red Vallejo Model Color. When licked off the brush I'd describe Willow Bark as having a more earthy note, with actually a tiny hint of cloves that can become overpowering when drank straight from the bottle.The Burnt Red gives you a slight smoked paprika tang that I find much more pleasant, that doesn't seem to get too much stronger regardless if you're brush licking or just taking a quick sip during a session.Overall I'd describe the bases as an acquired taste
>>94370341Yeah. I'm just sayin' that their choice to use ABS-like shows wisdom. It's a very slightly more expensive material than standard resin, but is more durable which makes it better for being used for actual games, than the more brittle standard resins that are cheaper but more likely to get fucked up when being used in a game.It's not like a super big price jump but the fact that they're willing to put in that little bit extra for a better quality mini is a good sign.
>>94370342That's not what anon was talking about. They just said Skirmish Games require multiple play sessions to work, which is a silly thing to say.
>>94370253Somewhere, he's out there shitting and pissing and crying himself to sleep.>>94370294They've said that they're interested in doing a wargame down the line.>>94370342There's also provisions for one-off matches, like upping the warband resources to 900 ducats and 8 glory points instead.
>>94370347It's unreal how good vallejo smells. I switched from Citadel to Vallejo this year and I don't understand why their paints smell so tasty when they are all still just acrylics. Especially their black primers.
>>94370373Jokes aside, for some reason Black Lotus Xpress color has a smell that reminds me of bananas.
>>94370294>skirmish games are hard to get people for as they require multiple sessions to actually workmy experience is the exact oppositeskirmish games are cheaper with a smaller barrier to entry and often have slightly more complex rules BUT fewer "X does Y but actually Z in this case and oh my dudes can actually deepstrike 3" and i forgot to tell you that :^) but it's your fault for not remembering that the tempestus knobgobblers can do that if they gobbled a knob last turn" interactionsa full on wargame like 40k requires game knowledge of the interactions between 26 factions and like 13 different flavours of space marines and chaos marines alone, with dozens of units eachthat said, i'd 1000% love a full fledge 40+ model war game 5 or so years from now
>>94370359>>94370359Yea Im wrong, a lot of skirmish games are about a campaign where you make a warband and level them up and shit, not all of them. Thats what I meant, THIS game is a skirmish game made around a campaign. How do you reckon with stuff like the 6 elite limit for factions that dont have 6 elites to even take without the levelling up process to make them elites, while stuff like court has an over abundance to take.
Please let this game go down as a massive success Please don't let them fuck it upPlease
>>94370280>Or if they'll even be of good quality.>Only-gamesNo the minis will be of awful quality no matter what resins used. I really want to be wrong. Doctor told me that it was best not to own a 3D printer even if I have it ventilated and rock a gas mask. So I need a good 3D printing service so much it is unreal.For now I just horde STLs.
>>94370407seriously what does it matter the games assured. It will probably crash and burn. we got game
>>94370397With chaff. I dunno if you're asking about model wise or rosterwise. But I haven't played it yet, but surely 4 regular Azebs at 25 a piece shooting at 1 elite hell knight at 100 is probably a fine match up for the Azebs.
>>94370408>theres stl shopping sites>theres one that print and deliver them to you>apparently theres none that also print your stls and deliver them to youi dont know if im just not looking hard enough but thats whst i want
>>94370408I mean, I run my 3d printer in the kitchen, at night, door closed, with a weed growing tent around it that vents directly outside.I think it's pretty much fine. If you have a decent setup you'll be alright. Hilariously, the VOC meters apperantly pop the fuck off way harder when you open the isopropyl alcohol you use for cleaning stuff. And obviously like, they use that shit in hospitals and whatnot for sanitization so you know, maybe don't inhale a bunch of it if you don't have to but it's hardly gonna kill you.
>>94370397Quantity has a Quality all its own.You just do what you'd do in 40k: swarm them with dogshit to keep things tied down while the other 57 models you have do objectives. Their 10 dudes can cleave all the trash they want, it'll be too late by the time they get done.>>94370408Check the local library? Mine has a 3d print lab you can use. Never done it myself, but it's there.
>>94370425>theres stl shopping sitesYes>theres one that print and deliver them to youIf you're talking about only-games then from what I've seen about reviewers is that they're bad.>apparently theres none that also print your stls and deliver them to youThere are. The problem is that the local one I messaged doesn't have good resin resolution for 28mm scale miniature bits. Then when I look up 3D printing services near me I get a lot of stuff about prototyping and designing and it makes me think that these companies would refuse miniature model requests.
>>94370432>>94370420Sure, that would be fine I guess, I was thinking in regards to the 10 model limit, you could just remove that and use quantity over quality at that point it seems if youre not playing the campaign.
>>94370408>>94370429Oh, right, ignore this advice if you have some kinda respiratory thing or whatever and your Doctor is specifically saying that you need to be careful because you're like a baby deer or live in one of those bubbles or whatever. For everyone else, I mean bleach is bad for you if you inhale or drink it but it's perfectly fine to have in your house and use, as long as you take a couple simple adequate precautions and aren't a fucking retard.A resin printer is literally the same as that. Yes resin can harm you, but it's not going to sneak out of the storage cupboard with a knife and come get you. Wear gloves when handling uncured resin, wear eye protection if there's *any* chance that the resin might splatter or flick or pop or whatever (ie: when cleaning the vat, removing a failure from the FEP, or if you're prying models off the build plate before cleaning because you don't have a wash and cure. If I'm just chucking a print on and the resin is just sitting in the vat, then I don't). Wear a mask if you want though I mostly don't because I vent the fumes outside and am only near resin straight up for a couple minutes, and that's when it's not being cured so I assume it's releasing a hell of a lot less garbage, and given how well I've isolated the printer when it's running, those N69 masks or whatever feel like overkill.
>>94370450i mean... theres stl markets that hook you up with people that can mail them to you.But theres no market where you can hook up with someone that can print your provided stls discreetly?Makes no sense.
>>94370407Going to make luce my desecrated saint
>>94370456I'm sure it's a lot simpler than it sounds, but resin just sounds like a pain in the dick to deal with adequately. I'm A) lazy and B) moderately retarded so I've made my peace and will pay others to sniff the chemicals for me.
>>94370460Actually having read my posts I think it wouldn't hurt to ask some 3D printing service websites if they do miniature requests. They should be familiar with them.
>>94370473What country and what service do you utilize?
>>94370451I mean that's not an awful point. You'll both only have 10 models max on the first scenario. In the short term, gear will play into it. Court models are expensive as shit, so you will be able to have more chaff with better gear. They might have 3-4 big scary models and a bunch of chaff to fill out the rest, but they won't be able to equip those models very well. Whereas you will have a more consistent playing field of well equipped chaff.In the long term though, your losses won't mean shit, whereas if he loses a model, it's a big set back. So maybe you lose the first scenario, but the outcome of the scenario has put you in a better position than him for the next.
>>94370479My LGS.
>>94370473It's one of those things where when you're first learning it it feels like a lot of bollocks to deal with but once you know, it's quite simple. Resin is annoying but a wash and cure station makes a huge difference to the workflow and preventing the majority of potential resin contamination in the processing step. Right now, my process 90% of the time is: attach the build plate, make sure the heating strip is placed correctly, turn it on for 30-45 minutes beforehand to make sure the resin is nice and warm. Then I arrange files on the build plate (45-ish degree angle with prominent/main details to the top), hit Light Auto-supports, then go through and add a couple medium supports to each piece to make sure everything adheres decently to the build plate, run island detection, then export/slice to the USB stick.The USB stick then gets attached to the printer, and I press Print. Once the print is done, I pull the plate off over a piece of cardboard that it might drip on, I attach it to the wash and cure and clean the prints + plate for 10 minutes, put the cardboard on the window sill so the sun can cure it. After 10 minutes of cleaning, I soak the prints in warm water for 1 minute then remove all the supports, and then run 3 minutes on each side in the curing station. It sounds like a lot when you read it like that but it really really isn't. It's like 2 minutes of steps, wait a while, 2 more minutes of steps, wait a while, 2 minutes of steps, done. Troubleshooting if something goes wrong is where the real 'skill' comes into it. And even then like, you just muddle through.
>>94370494You are lucky.
>>94367859What's the projected timeline for this being relatively easy to jump into? Say I told a friend about it and he wanted to start playing. When could he just go online, buy the book and a warband, and get to playing? I want to back to kickstarter, but I move relatively often and would rather pay a little more later. I'm thinking maybe 2028 for all the infrastructure to be set
>>94370501>It sounds like a lot when you read itIt really does. I'm definitely the kind of person that would just rather pay for someone else to do all of that for me.
>>94370501What >>94370528 said. I also don't have much space for any of that stuff, (un)fortunately.>>94370525You can get the rules for free on their website and use any models as long as the base sizes are right. It's very low-cost if you want it to be.
>>94370420>surely 4 regular Azebs at 25 a piece shooting at 1 elite hell knight at 100 is probably a fine match up for the Azebsi dunnominimum viability for a 'zeb is like 38 ducats(25 base, jezzail 7, alchemical ammo 3, trench club 3) not 25but the hellknight is probably going to have at least a hellblade and a shield(strong units can 1H a single 2H melee weapon), maybe a ranged weapon as well. 130+ ducats, so like 3.4 'zebsa hellknight kills 3 'zebs over 5 rounds if he can survive and close on them, especially if he's got a bit of assault shooting as well3-4 'zebs shooting a -3 hellknight need to get VERY lucky to kill him, even with a bloodbath or two(37.5% chance vs 2.77% without)
>>94370537Yeah, I understand that. I'm hoping to play Trench Pilgrims.I'm more on the modeling and painting side of the hobby, so I'm really waiting for official models. The game looks fun, but it's more a bonus than my main driver.
>>94370469BASED
>>94370538You figured me out, I'm just trying to trick people to go against my tricked out hell knights with peasants.
Everyone, even the most ignorant Trench Pilgrim, knows that Heaven has no spies inside the legions of Hell. No righteous Christian could keep themselves sane and hidden amidst those unholy lands.This is a lie spread by the Kannon-bushi, the hidden soldiers of Christ inside the lands of Hell. Saved by Saint Amakusa in 1638, the Jesuit Order of Maria Kannon has dedicated itself to hiding in impossible places, forsaking everything they hold dear and sacred that some of what they learn will come to aid Heaven's victory.
Okay it took a lot of tard wrangling but I was finally able to get my new printer to recognize my SD and its begun warming upI bought some paints and precise brusheshopefully it will only take about 30ish minutes to printwill post Prisoner soon
>>94368815>MetamorphosisYeah, unfortunately I cancelled my preorder just because I saw the Church of Metamorphosis. It just fucks so hard I'm willing to wait.
>>94369058I'd be down for it. It'd be kind of fun.
>>94370635Actually before I startis this normal? it looks like its trying to incase my model in a shell... what is this
>>94370578very in character for the court, this praetor is going places(said places likely being right into the thick of the enemy lines waving a malebranche sword around)
>>94370635Fuck I thought you said it will only take you 30 mins to paint. Was writing up a big post about watching tutorials and slowing down or you will be very disappointed. But I just can't read.
>>94370662I'm so keen to see if shooty Sloth Court build is viable.
>tried to look up etsy again>entire front page is disgusting fetish porn again
>>94370697my admittedly limited experience is that most ranged options for the court outside of the hunter of the left handed path is rather mediocre to subpar compared to even average shooty factions like hereticsthat said, i don't even know if the hunter is actually any fucking good since i lost him turn one before i could even activate him in the only game i've ran one.a fucking observer arrived right behind him because of the fog of war deployment rules and proceeded to roll a really fucking lucky 12 on his first wound roll. just shoved that halberd right between his heretical cheeks exactly like God told him to i guess
>>94370688>30 minutes to paintIsn't this what Contrast Paints are for?Basically the steps should be>Primer>Zenithal Highlights>Few coats of Contrast Paints
>>94370724Yeah I am historically bad at basically every game I play, so the fact that I had the idea means it's probably awful. But I really just want that 3 hell knight core each with the rifle that that rolls extra dice for shooting at longer range and shooting at enemies behind cover. All the while the hunter, if possible, will have the Sloth power that makes terrain 6 inches around him difficult terrain. If not, it'll just go on a hellknight. Then some Yokes just with Arqebussies and nothing else to pad out the numbers.
>>94370731Yeah, but I hate speed painting and contrast paints. I generally hate all of the paints and techniques that cut corners. I like having full control over the paint and taking the time to make it look right. But I also have never had to paint a 2000 point army or any big wargaming army. Only skirmish stuff, so I totally get why you'd do it. You can't see detail on the table and you just need to get it done to play. I'll be spending months on my minis when they arrive to get them how I want them though.
>house of wisdom can choose one pilgrim and one antioch weapon to have access toWhat's the coolest/best options, particularly in the context of arming a disgustingly expensive giant three armed homunculi?Heavy shotgun to combo with a shield and keep a hand free? Heavy flamethrower with the bull flame cannon to create a fucking dragon? Grenade launcher with bull cannon and hawk eyes for a highly accurate mobile artillery piece? Punt gun?Or do you just stick to your own shit and throw this stuff on your elite Faris?
>>94370738well you've got to pay the praetor tax since every warband requires a leader(and you shouldn't be upset about that because he's out and out the strongest leader in the game currently), but other than being a little low on models, which the court tends to be, i don't see why it couldn't workyou could get the hellknights and a hunter with what you wanted plus some extra equipment(melee weapons for the knights, reinforce armour and a shield plus a basic melee weapon for the hunter) for about 580 ducats, so if you're happy to take a very under equipped praetor then it could work for a campaign. for one shot limits are really up to you and who you're playing with, though most people do 700d or 900d/8g atm
>>94368736Same anon, I am just waiting for the rules for jews.
>>94370781>Or do you just stick to your own shit and throw this stuff on your elite Faris?pretty muchobest thing to buy is a grenade launcher for an alchemist, since you can drop 3 blood markers on multiple targets via blast, shrapnel and then add gas from the alchemistor just get another machine gun and run 2 dakkemists to potentially shit out up to 12 blood markers a turni'm not 100% sure the latter is legal since you're limited to 1 machine gun, and i don't know if purchasing it from new antioch bypasses that, but it SOUNDS fun
>>94370786>well you've got to pay the praetor tax since every warband requires a leaderWrong. Read the 1.5 rules. Court gets out of that. They don't have to take a leader. I theorised in the last thread that this is because Court doesn't have a leader option below $18 (physical) like the other factions. At least as of now, Court has no rule stating they must take any model and none of their models say they must be taken. Basically, Court just keeps winning. I'll own a Praetor anyway, so I'm sure I'll use it at some point.
these go really hard for the Pilgrimshttps://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/32mm-trench-war-tech-cultists-hoods
>>94370828huh, neat if it's intentional but it wouldn't surprise me if it's an oversight, since RAW basically no heretic unit except the commando can even take ranged weapons in the current version, so other mistakes are likely if one that big slipped through
>>94370854That is almost guaranteed an oversight because in all the prior versions of the Court PDF it was listed directly under "Nobles of the Court". That said the anon is correct that you don't have to pay the Praetor tax either way since you can use a Sorcerer instead.
>>94370813>machine gunYeah unfortunately you're not allowed to pick something you already have access to, although I'm almost certainly going to eat the HEAVY to apply FIRE to a machine gun, probably stick them somewhere in the open with a shovel and let rip. Could add the fancy cloak to double the cover bonus too.
>>94370828>>94370854To follow up on >>94370870 (me) cuz I remembered this immediately after posting, they also changed it so that Grail can take either the Lord of Tumours or a Plague Knight in 1.5, so they likely meant to copy how it's done there and missed it.
>>94370828>hunter as leader with a bunch of hell knights and wretched for a warbandNeat, you can actually roleplay those monster hunters of hell they talk about for the hunter by just not taking any monsters.
LMAOTHE PRISONER WILL SPEND HIS PENALTY INSIDE THE PAIN CRYSTAL FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS
>>94370831Pretty good, but I want something metal looking.
>>94370883Let him out, give him a chance anon.
>>94370890this picture made me realize that while looking cool and gothic, those tall pointy hats would be a real detriment in trench warfare, the enemy could see exactly where you are
Lord of tumors with viscera cannon yes or no?Giving my leader blood counters seems like a bad idea.
>>94370870>>94370879Yeah it's possible that it's an oversight, but I still think it's intentional. Look at the prices of all the leaders. The plague knight still matches the price range of the other leaders. Sorc is still quite expensive and the Court has so many Elites, that it makes sense that any of them could lead a warband.
>>943708833D print they said. It's easy. Did you look up how to do it, or did you just slap the STL into the printer and YOLO it?
>>94370916You get the Sorcerer in the starter for a reason
>>94370904Of course, what shows bravery more than conciously letting the enemy know your position at all times and when you are ready to charge.
>>94370926Yeah, it's an option. We'll see though, I'm sure someone in the discord has raised it as well, so it'll probably get fixed next update if it's wrong.
so myminifactory seems better for stls. For whatever reason etsy just returns /b/ tier shitposts as results, some asshole must be trying to destroy their business >>94370916God the heretic priest is so shitty, its even shittier than the war prophet, which is second shittiestevery other leader looks good>>94370926yeah i dont know why one anon has been trying to argue for 3 weeks that the Court doesnt come with a leader
>>94370944>>94370945Personally I'd like the option to use a upgraded Hell Knight as a leader, but I just want to caution people that it's probably a mistake and not plan their whole army around a Hunter or Knight leader.
>>94370878 (me)Oh there is a way to get a second machine gun though, through your patron
>>94370945>For whatever reason etsy just returns /b/ tier shitpostsIf you let coomers in, they will take over your business. There's a reason Etsy stopped selling sex toys. The more I delve into creative hobbies, the more I realise that most people learn to create for the big cum. All men learn how to draw so they can draw women or whatever they are into. Turns out everyone that 3D models also got into that to make big titted futa mummies as well. I'm not against it, it's just the world we live in. Big cum is too powerful.
>>94370945>yeah i dont know why one anon has been trying to argue for 3 weeks that the Court doesnt come with a leaderThe alternative is that they don't proof read the rules before sending them out, which is not great. I'd rather think it's on purpose.
>>94370997im talking about stuff that isnt anything to do with 3d models.Im being loteral here, loteral /b/ porn posts. Ive seen similar shit all over the web. Its like some deranged discord of schizos doing it
this would make a cool TP somethinghttps://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-scarlet-crusade-altar-290128
>>94370317These are beautiful. Good job anon
>>94371034That's just normal internet. Not sure why that shocks you. In fact you finding that gives me hope for the internet. Everything's become too controlled and sanitized on the internet these days.
Wait are there jets in this setting?
>>94371094why do you retards always assume its the shock that people get annoyed about.Its utterly fucking annoying and time wasting to have search results spiked by irrelevant shit all the time.One of the worst examples i experienced was trying to look up a womans name, i entered her account name exactly into a search. It returned graphic pictures of men fucking.
>>94368736> New Antioch - Very balanced, with a focus on long range. Access to good guns. Don't have any single super powerful unit, but make up for it with general units being rather competent.>Trench Pilgrims - Hordes of shitty guys centered around elites that can buff them extremely well. Playstyle involves getting as many guys into melee range as quickly as possible. Have a lot of units that can regen themselves or others, making them unreasonably difficult to completely kill. Don't have as good of equipment as others, except for a few weapons which inflict high damage while injuring the user. Have probably the scariest melee unit in the game.>Black Grail - Wish.com Nurgle. Hordes of weak zombies supported by a few extremely powerful elites. Work best through attrition, sending zombies forward to engage and weaken enemies, alongside general power of elite units. Somewhat weak on the ranged side.>Heretic Legion - Balanced bad guy faction, with a preference for closer combat. Good at breaking formations and fortifications, taking out valuable single targets, and generally fucking with enemy units.>Seven Headed Serpent - Only true magic using faction, allowing for sudden changes of fortune. Demonic lords of huge power (and cost) alongside garbage disposables. Lean slightly more towards melee combat.At least, that's how I view them. Others might interpret their intended playstyles differently.
>>94371104>It returned graphic pictures of men fucking.Nice.
>>94371117not nice, it was actually far nastier than just that which is gay.
Black grail is superior Nurgle and im sick pretending otherwise
>>94371094when you get older. Nothing shocks you, just annoys you
>>94371106Seems right to me, although I haven't looked at Black Grail at all yet.Not sure how to judge Iron Sultanate.>can get good shooting on even disposable infantry>can make their high cap elite infantry as good at shooting as leaders>they all get STRONG too, to use a 30" range +1 injury rifle with that +2 ranged dice>alchemist incentivize flashy ranged weapons>so they're the ranged faction?>but then there's time hopping dual-charging assassins, cheap and fast monster lions, brazen bull as living tanks with melee/short range/long range loadouts, and a standard flexible main leader>oh and then the subfactions are practically their own factions with unique perks, equipment, meaningful alternate units, build-a-monster, and heavily increased/decreased unit caps
I can't decide on whether to back the Kickstarter, I hate being such an indecisive bitch. I've been struggling to decide all month.
>>94371094well you are pretty foolish. This stuff will lead to the complete sanitisation of the net
>>94371154just throw 5 bucks at it
>>94371154Do you have money you don't need? If yes, back. If no, don't back. Simple as.
>>94370918YOLOAfter lots of trial and error I finally got a decent one outNow i need to print the base and print,
Is it worth even bothering purchasing the STLs? Surely they'll find their way around, right?
>>94371189how did you even get hold of the stl for it
>>94371191You wouldn't steal a mini, would you?
>>94371106> New Antioch - Very balanced, with a focus on long range.This couldn't be more off base. Antioch excels in short to middle range, but not melee. They want to be in the sweet spot where SMGs, Shotguns, ARs, etc excel.>Heretic Legion - Balanced bad guy faction, with a preference for closer combat.Legion actually prefers a more distant playstyle with the War Wolf and others tying up melee while your Witch and Chaff (half of which can get +1D ranged) fire away.
>>94371202https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/ecclesiastic-prisonerfound one online, obv not official and this is definitely worse then the real deal, I just wanna try painting lol>>94371191Bros better post STLs here istg
>>94370329Fa/tg/entlemen, never change
>>94371209What paints did you end up buying?
>>94371191i was going to get a few phy minis but im not site goat fucking company can deliver.So ill just get a few stls i guess
>>94371223not sure*
>>94371218Acrylics from Walmart, not the best or worse
>>94371240>First time 3D printed FDM mini>Cheap Walmart Acrylics not designed for minis>First time painting a miniI'm actually so excited for this.
>>94371259>First time painting a miniWRONGI painted the whole Introductory setand I think they look pretty good
>>94371283Not TC and maybe not the best ever but I think they came out well
>>94368273>Germans are so prominent in the Heretic LegionThey're not, you're just reading too deeply into a helmet design. It's just an artistic choice. It has no ties to any particular nationality in-setting.
>>94371283>>94371291Sad, yeah that's a fine first go. I was hoping for a disaster. You'll be fine.
>>94371310Sadly no results tonight, just figuring it out took to long and now I must eep. I will post a painted mini tomorrow.
>picrelHoly shit
>>94371304they use uboats and have german guns though and they have some kinda wolfenstein looking stuff
>>94370795>Capital of the Heretic Legion is IsraelWhat did Factory Fortress mean by this?
>>94367859Do you guys think kitbashing an actual crucifix into a desecrated saint counts as a real life sin?I think it would look metal as fuck, but don't feel like going to hell
>>94371429some redditor turned a statue of mary into an artillery witch.Hes defo going to get ass fucked in hell for being a redditor
>>94371429Iconography isn't sacred unto itself but I wouldn't call it good practice.>>94371435That's distasteful.
>>94370528>>94370537Godspeed then. It's definitely not as hard as people think, but, it's also not for everyone. Knowing that about yourself is a good thing.>>94371090Thanks man. They're a 3rd party sculpt for Sisters of Silence Witchseekers, Sisters of Sacrifice Crematoria, very very nice sculpt.
>>94371429If anything to do with tabletop games is a mortal sin, at all, then you're already doing it by finding enjoyment in triumphing over your enemies as incredibly fucked up demons, so fuck it, do whatever's coolJust maybe don't tell any religious family members about it. Although them seeing a representation of a desecrated saint on your shelf that you spent hours slaving away over to get perfect probably couldn't get any worse anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU6gTJ0jpcY&t=5400sDeuuuss vullltttt
>>94370253I'm changing my pledge from physical warband to digital. Not optimistic about their production.excited about all the interest though. there's even talks of a campaign starting up at my lgs
>>94370781Heavy Shotgun with Fire shield on a Faris seems to be a popular choice.And while the Dakkamist looks tempting, having to be stationary can be a death sentence vs some factions. So generally the Automatic Rifle seems to be a good compromise.
>>94371149IS are the true jack of all trades faction. Because NA/HL are somewhat the posterboys, people assume they would be. But IS can turn their hand to every aspect while never being the best at it. The one thing they do struggle with is cracking armour as they don't have a huge amount of ignore armour or +/3d6 injury dice outside of a few select things.
>>94371097Yeah. They started a space program in 1899 too.
>>94371717Of course, I knew about the space program but for some reason jets in my head came after that.
Does this game have a decent RPG yet?My brother used to play other games (DND, Farfinder) and I want to figure out a decent Christmas present for him without him spending a few hundred into figurines
>>94371762No. Might happen eventually, but it’s far from a high priority right now.
>>94371781
>>94371791Bro it's not even out of kickstarter. Let it release before they start making spin offs.
>>94371395>u-boatsYou mean submarines? Where are they referred to as u-boats?>german gunsWhere?>kinda wolfenstein looking stuffMore so than anyone else?HL are about as german as the Helghast i.e. not at all.
>>94371429I'm sure if you explained it to a priest he'd just be pleased you're playing a board game and not a video game desu>>94371435That's a pretty fun idea>>94371486There's tens of millions of them, tons of low effort shitly made ones also. Doing it for personal enjoyment and art is less distasteful than selling shit quality ones for profit
>>94371798It's more that he loves roleplaying games and Im a duck out of water. God speed to the fans of this game
>>94371820Look into ACKS II + Domains at War. Dnd shit at low levels, war gaming at high levels. You can roll up some 5th lvl characters and just fuck around fighting orcs and Not!Gengis Khan if you want to get stuck into big combats. No minis exist for it yet but it's fun regardless.
>>94371802Don't bother with him, he's probably one of those fags who is trying his hardest to subvert TC into his ww2 nazi LARP shit.Why else do you think he is so obssessed with the german?
>replying to yourself because you got ignoredpathetic Actually heretics are my least favourite faction because i find the Wehrmacht look alike thing boring.
>over three million dollarydoos>18,592 backersHoly shit, there's no way they won't switch from onlygames. Unless they've completely overhauled their business, those guys will never be able to fulfill an order like this.
>>94371923>Its literally accepted by the entire TC community they are nazisNope.
>>94371923>HL literally resemble ww2 germansDo they? Their helmets look like WW1 Germans imo, but that's the closest they get. Funnily enough, they actually lack all the silly frills and skulls that often distinguished the more recognizable WWII German uniforms.
>>94371366I'm glad I'm not running a wildly successful Kickstarter cause I would be stressed tf out right now
>>94371923They look more like they're wearing a variant of mid to late WWI German Empie uniforms. Their chestpiece even looks a bit like the semi-segmented armor some German infantry had between 1916-1918.Still, the Germans = evil method of design is clearly in full effect.
>>94372263If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>94371960Who even has the capacity to fulfill 18k orders for miniatures at a reasonable timeframe other than GW themselves? It would be very funny if they had a factory they rented out to over people to make big batch orders like Trench Crusade and thus also get a monoply over indie non GW mini creation. But they struggle to met they're own demands, hence why shit goes out of stock all of the time
>>94371960I ordered a couple of minis off them because I want to see just how congested this shit is. There's no way they can fulfill normal orders for months because of this.
>>94367962But thats not true? there might be some tendency to go towards Kaiserism aestheticly in the Heretics, cause it looks metal, But lore wise Prussia and the HRE are on the side of antioch and church pilgrams. The Prussians are specifically known for sending Stormtroopers to fight for Antioch.Anyways, shit like pic related is pretty german-esque and is antioch.
>>94372635Man the artstyle for this game looks so damn cool, they got a pretty good cast of artists with them
>>94372645pretty sure thats cause the game came from the art, not the other way around. Some guy did concept art and then they decided to make a kickstarter game from it.
Is there a reason the Lions and Bulls for the Sultanate have an ability noting they're Artificial, rather than it being a keyword?
>>94372413mark my words the commentsection and the discord will be a clusterfuck because of this, people warned them, they did not listen.you reap what you sow.
>>94367906I like them, they might be warband of my choice.
>>94372645visions of pic related
This game's already getting ruined by fedora tippers, isn't it?
>>94373556if by 'ruined' you mean 'reddit' then it already was when their lorebook mentioned demon-piloted submarines and a church space program—all before 1900
>>94373640What’s the difference between “reddit” and fun ham?
>>94373689YMMV.
>>94372645The game spawned from the art, its a neat way to make a game honestly. Stuff like this is the reason I dont know what faction I want to go with;>NALove ww1 aesthetic with trenchcoats, brodie helmets and gasmasks>HLGet to play WW2 Germans, who have the best looking uniforms in modern warfare, with Wolfenstein wierdo shit on the side>TPUnused Bloodborne designs: the faction>ISAssassins Creed but with guns. Also a "build a monster" function so you can play Spore at the same time>BGI like their mechanics but nothing really stands out in terms of models for me. The designs look like they smell bad, which is the point I guess as they are the only faction that causes fear universally>CourtTheir elites are some of the coolest looking in the game, if TP is the Bloodborne faction, Court is the Dark Souls boss faction
Final tallyNew posthttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1405364378/trench-crusade/posts/4250008
>>94374301And we have proper scale for Shrine Anchorite. WAY bigger than I anticipated.
>>94374345Fucking sweet.
>>94374345Me on the left with a hammer
>>94374345That breaking wheel volunteer is really carrying that fight.
>>94374452>>94374496>>94374535Also confirmed on discord that HMI (the Trench Marines) are bigger than Primaris.
>>94374345Rad.
>>94374159I'm having this same problem too, mainly between the NA and TP since I want to be a soldier for the Lord Jesus (though I do think the Heretic stuff looks awesome too). I might go with the TP though since I like their rough style and lore.
>>94374575That sin eater is most likely going to eat few of those wretched
>>94374159It was tough for me too, decided to go TP as I like or even love most of their models, and I really like the troop aesthetic.Court of the Seven-headed serpent elite models are sick and might collect them down the line.
>>94371811>Doing it for personal enjoyment and art is less distasteful than selling shit quality ones for profitYep. I wouldn't do it with something created with love or as a gift. But these are just commodities for the most part
Does anyone here actually play Iron Sultanate or am I the only one
>>94374847>Does anyone here actuallyOh you're funny, anon
>>94374847I plan on getting a brazen bull to paint, but I don’t think I’ll play them.
>>94374301>3 mirrionscongratulations and good luck
>>94374847I went to my local gameshop, and asked is there interest to play Trench Crusade. Store's owner had looked over the rules, but no games has been played.In january I should have more time, and I'll try to find people who are interested, and get a group going.
>>94374847They're currently 3rd on my priorities assuming we don't get the bugs, wolfs, or vamps any time soon. So right now nah I don't. Very very interested to see what people kitbash for their homunculi though.
>>94374748I am the exact same. Nice choice anon
So now that's wrapped up, what did everyone end up getting? I'm curious to see what our numbers are like.>Book>All of the Court minis (physical)>NA Warband to get friends into it (physical)>Trench terrain (physical)
>>94375680I got book only as I do not have talent for painting or 3d printer.
>>94375680Book, all court models, court dice, hell sprues, and the scripture guardian. I lack a 3D printer. Desperately hoping I can find games, but while the local GW store is very very active, I have fuck all idea of the game scene outside it.
>>94375686>as I do not have talent for paintingIt's not a talent, it's a learned skill. If you just watch some videos on what kind of material you want to paint before you paint it, you will be fine. For example, I didn't know how to paint leather, so I watched this video, followed all his steps and it came out exactly like his.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9D3aa6HKZM
>>94375680Book and all of the sultanate minis in digital form.I was hesitating on what minis to get all the way to the end, but decided on the sultanate. I might later get the Red Brigade from westphalia kickstarter.
>>94375686You can expect a few painting tutorials for Trench Crusade models specifically once they start rolling out. Hell, might be a couple already.
>>94375710>court diceI almost bought the dice until I realised they were just their 40k Chaos dice with a different symbol photoshopped on.
>>94375680BookAll the sultanate minis phyisical Accessories and weapons Some extra Azebs to kitbash
>>94374847I'm thinking about it, but I've not decided yet. I like the idea of House of Wisdom, but then I also wonder if I'd rather just play with more footsoldiers and an Alchemist to support them rather than sink all my ducats into monsters.
>>94375680Nothing. Don't like resin. Prefer to kitbash, anyway. Happy it succeeded wildly, though. Also happy to see people from my FLGS talking about it and supporting it, means games in the future.
>>94375680>Book>All of Trench Pilgrims (Digital)Was going to get the terrain STLs too, but I figured if I really want it I can just pick it up later. I have enough terrain to print as it is. I do want to pick up the church weapons sprue though, forgot to add that.
>>94375779Same! There's people at my LGS who have already been playing with proxy armies.Do you guys have any people in your area interested in TC?
>>94375809>tfw no LGS
If I went TL (Ghosts), I could give all my units -3 (at least) armor by giving them standard armor and a shield, which stacks with their innate -1, right?I can't tell if I'm misreading somewhere because that sounds insane.
>>94375760oh fuck my life
I just paid the observer fee so that I can get some stls off the pledge manager when I get paid.
>>94375851If it makes you feel better, it seems to be at a bit of a discount. Those chaos dice are about 35 USD on the Baron of Dice site.
>>94375851>>94375884Oh and you can probably change it in the pledge manager and put the money you pledged for the dice to a model or something.
>>94375680Book, all TP and BG minis. Trench terrain I’m splitting with a friend.
Finally got home and tried painting and it’s a lot rougher then I thought lolNeeds a lot of work, waiting for it to dry rnFeel free to laugh at this first try it’s awful
>>94375994Don't give up, anon! I keep my first model on my desk as a reminder of how much I've improved.
>>94375994Did you prime it? Because you hadn't primed it yesterday and primer needs 24 hours to cure.
>>94375994Everyone starts somewhere man.
>>94375680bookbunch of individual stl files i like
>>94375994Anon this was always going to look rough even if you were a god at painting, FDM printers still just cant really do miniatures stuff because of how thick the layers are
>>94375994If you want tips, check out Duncan Rhodes.
>>94375680Book + 10 buckaroos for the Castigator model since I think he looks cool as hell.
>>94375680Book, Warband, and while i could increase it i probably wont get more for now.Was debating on what warband that i wanted though, and while i like the models for most of the warbands i figured that court and black grail have the hardest to convert models, and i figure that black grail will have more different textures to paint than court will (based on their warbands, if court had ONLY the models that i like the most then id probably get it instead)
>>94375680Got a Book and im probably going to wait for STLs to be posted / wait for people to sell their prints
>>94376205>i figured that court and black grail have the hardest to convert modelsSo many 3D printer companies do disease based demon armies. I think you'd be fine to find proxies for Grail. Court too could just use various demons. Yokes are just beastmen and they are everywhere. Praetor could be any winged demon.
What armies are you guys using or are you just going to use the Warbands to play? Any strategies yet?
>>94376225>So many 3D printer companies...yeah and most of them do not fit the aesthetic that i want.And what im not getting from the tc kickstarter im making in plastic
>>94374159>Unused Bloodborne designs: the faction>Their elites are some of the coolest looking in the game, if TP is the Bloodborne faction, Court is the Dark Souls boss factionI think you hit on exactly why I picked both of these two factions
>>94376196Those warhammer painting videos are unironically a great place to start. After a year or so of painting you'll naturally start to move away from their techniques because the warhammer painting methods base, wash, highlight can be pretty limiting, but god damn if Duncan hasn't perfected it on his stuff.
>>94376284This is my Black Grail list at the moment.>Any strategies yet?Uhhhhhhh shoot them until I can get into melee. Thralls are chaff and my hound and herald are mobile threats.I'll likely be playing against New Antioch most of the time.
>>94376473>Got to exactly 700
>>94374345>>94374575Fucking sick.>>94375680I got the basic heretic warband, plan on getting my friend to 3d print a witch for it as I like that model more, and picking up the weapon accessory spruePlanning on chipping in on the thing too>>94375994>getting to work immediately and posting your first modelAlready more respectable than me with my first dozen models.
>>94375994You can always use LA's Totally Awesome to strip and repaint. But it's a good idea to keep your first ever painted mini to see how far you've come in the futureWe all have to "paint the bad minis out of ourselves" first. So enjoying the process is the way to go
>>94376698Yeah 100%. Although he has already painted a mini before that here >>94371291. But i love going back to my first little ork boy. I did a fair amount of research before starting, so it wasn't awful, but it's great to see improvement in each model after.
>>94375809Guy at my FLGS made a Bushranger/Ned Kelly team.
>>94376769Those look sick.
>>94376769>>94376787Also I really like the colour of that red wood. Do you know what paints he used to get that colour? I got something similar mixing I think it was evil sunz scarlet and mournfang brown that I used for red leather boots.
>>94375680For me it was,>Book + Trench Pilgrim Warband - Digital>Trench Pilgrim Bundle - DigitalWill probably add>Mercenaries Bundle - Digital>Trench Terrain Bundle - DigitalOnce the campaign manager launches. Then purchase more faction STL when they go live come New Years (a friend and I are pooling money to purchase a resin printer next month). Hoping the dice will be sold separately as well.
>>94377017>Hoping the dice will be sold separately as well.Yeah I don't see why they won't be sold on the Baron of Dice store. They have a bunch of off brand warhammer ones and some officially licensed ones as well like Infinity dice.
I like the Trench Pilgrims
>>94377203Me too, bro.
Found some very interesting STLsOnly version of the Pilgrims and other Figs I can find online
>>94377221I honestly would not be surprised if these are actual KS files desuhttps://wetransfer.com/downloads/7e691af92d60a473d44bf2c2995e416120241113022341/1f0989?t_exp=1731723821&t_lsid=d992861a-8f29-495d-b8ed-7704fad156d4&t_network=link&t_rid=Z29vZ2xlLW9hdXRoMnwxMDgzNTIxMjAzMzYwMTkxMTg5MzM=&t_s=download_link&t_ts=1731464622
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>>94377203Yeah I think I'm gonna collect them when the time comesThey're one of the only factions I feel like is doing the whole "WW1 + Crusaders + Supernatural Shit" thing justice rn. Like most of the other factions lean too hard in one direction or the other.
>>94371962considering the popularity of Hellsing Ultimate and people are keenly aware this game is Capirotes vs NazisYou are more than wrong, you are gay.
>>94377274>They're one of the only factions I feel like is doing the whole "WW1 + Crusaders + Supernatural Shit" thing justiceNah, I don't see any WW1 influence in them which is part of the reason I prefer NA over them as a good faction.
>>94376284At the moment I’m going for the base Trench Pilgrim war band, plus an extra communicant and AT commie/monk comboOne skirmisher group made up of the nun and a few chaff pilgrims for snatching relics and running.One melee battle group consisting of the prophet, communicants and rest of the pilgrims, to delete anything in melee, and form an extremely tough defensive formation in objective battles. Maybe put a punt gun somewhere in there.The AT commie is used as basically field artillery, to take out enemy ranged options so the battle group can enter melee as intact as possible.
How do you build your army?
I think I will play NA just because Heavy infantry looks like Heavy tf2
>>94377290They have bolt action rifles and that's a hell of a lot more WW1 than the 7 Headed Serpent models, which all look like they forgot what game they were supposed to be in
>>94377310Pick the units and equipment that look/sound cool. Repeat until you have ≤ 700 ducats.
Will the fire obsessed trench pilgrim subfaction have rules in the full rulebook?
>>94377338Well the Court is just hell. They are at the very end of the spectrum. Hell doesn't have to follow mortal rules. I like that they have a more demonic faction as well as a mortal industrial hell faction. If anything the Grail stands out weirdly, but I like them so it's fine.
>>94377310>Pick models you like>Get to 700 ducats>Remember you need equipment as well>Get rid of some models and add equipment>Buy those models>Wait until June next year to get them>Spend 4 months painting them>Find an opportunity to play in 2026>Lose horribly and realise your warband was awful>Repeat until dead
Can an anon explain the covenant of Hell to me. Heard it mentioned off hand in some fluff videos with no further explanation. So true demons aren't allowed to led attacks into Earth and must stay behind the Hell Gate? Thats why Praetors who are half devil half predatory animal are the ones who led the Court of the Seven Headed Serpent armies on raids. Is that correct, half demons can led attacks and true demons can attack if they're just soldiers like hunters of the left hand path, or hell knights, (or are they part mortal?)
>>94377412Yeah I'm not sure it's been elaborated on. There's a bunch of stuff in the lore that are stated as fact but never elaborated on because the people in the setting would know what they mean but for us it creates discussion. But yeah it's something to do with demons and angels not being allowed to interact with mortals or earth in some way.
>>94377412It’s basically a cold/proxy war situation.If the demons themselves come into battle, then the angels will also. While the demons will get utterly shitstomped, it will probably also destroy the world if both sides throw everything they have into it, which the angels do not want. Hence why all the combatants are either human cultists, artificial life forms made in hell, reanimated corpses (either BG or TP), or sinners turned demons (I.e the sin eater or yoke fiend)I’m not 100 on the praetors . They could just be demons of such thoroughly low standing that their presence is mostly ignored, or some sort of semi-demonic construct. That, and Hell knights may just be equivalent to plague knights - humans corrupted to the point of being completely inhuman/demonic
>>94377412i don't believe it but apparently when the hell gate was opened, hell invaded but.... hell cannot actually set foot outside the gate?lolSo its just like Beelzebub perioidically farting and belching through the portal
>>94377502>>94377500>>94377469So the Iron City of Dis isn't on Earth but the demon city on the other side of the Hell Gate?, and thats were the court of the seven headed serpent have their meetings and organise 'hunting parties'. Which is the demonic legal defintion to explain away their strategic military attacks as not being attacks so hell is not officaly at war with heaven and creation
>>94377524Yep, Dis is from Dante's Inferno. It's a big city that consists of the 6th to 9th layers of hell. It's cool to think of it having industrialised on a war footing where it produces weapons and ammo.
>>94376284>heretic naval raiders>buy bare minimum troopers to hold ground>take the legionnaires allowed by purchasing basic dudes and fully kit them out with armor+shield and submachine guns>use them as stormtroopers to assault with the priest, later upgrade them to infiltrators and probably keep the priest back>death commando similarly infiltrates and goes nuts, preferably towards an objective>artillery witch stays in the back to "snipe" and discourage pushing just two guys with bolt action rifles>purchased an annointed after first game and gave him an AMR, if I can get STRONG on the priest I'll probably switch it out and give him infiltrate, otherwise he's on armor hunting dutyWorked fairly well, 6-0 first game with Over the Top, which is defending while assaultingWould have skipped the helmets/gas masks on my stormtroopers for infiltrate sooner though, but my opponent isn't running any explosives yet
>>94377361probably they will surprise us with lots of stuff
>>94377631What were you playing against?
>>94377679Should be easy enough to attach sconces and torches to everything as well.
>>94377702>attach sconces and torches to everythingI hope they instead get inspired by these great Darkest Dungeon 2 enemy designs and have them be fanatical madmen who burnt flesh is running like wax
>>94377768They are literally covered in sconces and torches. I'm sure you could add some texture to the skin and paint it reddish as well.
>>94377699Vanilla New Antioch, friend running five shocktroopers with assault weapons and a mechanized heavy infantry with a machine gunHe mostly neglected to buy armor to instead have more guys with nicer guns and medkits/helmets/gas masks though. In the end only his MHI was left standing (albeit in my backline fucking shit up), and his casualty rolls killed half his men while his lieutenant suffered brain damage. Which actually might work well for him as he is taking the reinforcement option to recover his almost 400 lost ducats of guys/gear and reallocate it into capping out on heavies.Also a bit of a tip, glorious deeds are big and super worth it. We both ignored an easy one and regret it. +EXP, +promotion dice, and +glory points. And glory points seem to break the ducat threshold limit? While providing exceptional (and cool) units/gear. My commando getting a charge off from out of line of sight was the difference between me bringing a dog and me bringing an anti-materiel rifle to my next game.
>>94377801>He mostly neglected to buy armor to instead have more guys with nicer gunsthis is the biggest mistake i've come across when it comes to list building so far in the 6 games i've playedimo it's ALWAYS worth taking 3-4 guys with standard armour and/or a trench shield with mediocre weapons instead of 5-6 without any protection with better weapons, especially in a campaign i'd imagine.that said, i've only played one off games so far so i can't say for sure beyond -0 armour mooks drop like flies in my games. any injury roll has a 1/3 chance to just doctor manhattan them, and they're gonna face a LOT of injury rolls over 5+ rounds
If you're in Australia, Proxy wargaming has a pretty good warband that looks like it could proxy a few Sultanate models. I've ordered a single knight model from them to see the print quality. 70 dollarydoos for 10 models though. But if you're in Australia you should already be used to spending all of your wage on your hobbies.
>>94377801Should be noted, NAs thing is cheap replacable units with good weapons. A lot of factions good weapons require glory points, NAs doesnt. You can just slap a sniper rifle onto some random guy and it will do work, and if he dies, you didnt lose anything valuable, where other factions losing those units would lose something that at times cannot even be replaced.
>>94377950haha no way thats too expensive, theres better proxies for half the price and double the minis
>>94377982Physical in Aus? Please point me towards them. Shit is so expensive here. If you find something low price it ends up being like 30 dollars shipping. At least this place is in Aus so shipping is cheaper. I've ordered some Frostgrave minis off Amazon which I think were like $60 for 20 models, which is probably the best I've found so far.
Not trying to break OPs rules but generally curious, how does TC Christianity differ from irl Christianity? From what I can tell they don't call themselves the Catholic church despite the aesthetic throwbacks, and there are new books added to the Bible.
>>94378014I dunno if they've really gone into it at all. It's just faithful nations or not.
>>94377996why do you need it from Aus. https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/the-age-of-chivalry/products/foot-knights-1150-1320https://wargamesatlantic.com/search?q=ottoman&_pos=1&_psq=ottom&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Lot happier with how this dude came out
>>94378014The setting will probably never delve into deep theological distinctions. But they have cloned christ and eat his flesh and torture him. Also YWAH, god of the setting, seems to actually be the Demiurg
>>94378050>why do you need it from Aus.Because I live in Aus and shipping costs are a thing. No point if stuff is cheaper if the final cost ends up being more because of shipping. That stuff you posted though is only 12 bucks shipping though. So $66 for 24 models. Very nice, thanks for that.
>>94378066bro learn 2 read websites. Shippings free over $50
>>94378055Okay up close its a little gross but in person its not so bad
>>94378070Yeah, sites lie, which is why I went through checkout to get it to calculate the price. I guess they mean over $50 USD. So maybe if I bought 2 boxes it'd be 0 shipping. But I also don't need 2 boxes. Might get a knight one and some WW1 models though. Either way you did me a favour.
>>94377982Since coronavirus/brexit/ukraine shipping has exploded. The days of buying cheap overseas and getting it posted here cheap is over.
>>94378094sometimes but also not really. I wanted to get a model from a us company and they wanted to charge me 60 bucks for the shipping.Loterally scam prices, thats nothing to do with muh recent history, thats just scammin
>>94378014They main church is the New Syncretic Church, which means it incorporated a whole lot of doctrinal variations as long as the core tenants remain the same (god and jesus = cool beans, satan = gay and lame) and they're backed by nations. That said, they're less tolerant of Trench Pilgrims, who don't have official sanction, but they are still allowed to roam around as long as the cause more trouble for hell than heaven.>>94377996>>94378066GapGames has a lot of hard plastic kits for 10% - 20% off RRP (and metal blister packs too), including WGA, Frostgrave, Konflikt 47; all stuff that can be used to kitbash a lot of Trench Crusade lads. After that, Reaper Minis is a good place for models and they have an Aus version of the website that ships from the Aus warehouse. GapGames is one of the best places for discounts in Australia from what I've seen. Even GW shit usually gets a 21% discount.https://www.gapgames.com.au/Also, The War Library has a decent selection of individual sprues if you don't want to buy whole boxeshttps://thewarlibrary.com.au/collections/sprues-28mmKnock yourself out, slut.
>>94378113Yeah I've been browsing GapGames as well. Was gonna get my frostgrave stuff off there, but it was cheaper on Amazon. Don't think I've seen the War Library though, thanks for that.
>>94377500Praetors are cambions - they're the result of demons fucking beasts and producing half-demon spawn. Said half-demons are still so absurdly spawn that for all intents and purposes, they may as well be representative of actual demons.The only times you can argue 'true' demons stepped foot on Earth would be the two cases where Black Hrail Hegemons were successfully formed, since those are specifically stated to be remote avatars of Beelzebub.
>>94378137*absurdly powerful I mean
I have rethought my black grail list to include 9 models.I’m looking forward to trying it out.
>>94378014No East-west schism, no Protestant reformation.There do seem to be a lot of splinter factions which disagree on small things (I.e the Pilgrims who don’t believe in the metachrists) thus allowing NA and TP players to fight each other and themselves, but they seem to recognise overall that their attention should be on the guys with dead babies on their belts.
>>94368316Because we heil hitler here nigga
>>94376284It's gonna be bad, but I'm gonna have fun being bad.
>>94378346>>94378181How are you guys doing this?
>>94378352Go to the 1.5 playtest rules, look at the costs of everything, open up notepad and a calculator and go for it.
>>94378352notepad
>>94378432He'll need an beta invite to use it though.
>>94375847The trench ghosts skill is -1 dice not -1 to the result, still good but not immortal (unless effects on the attacking side) good
>>94374159Imagine being literally incapable of describing something without comparing it to video games.Holy shit.
>>94378542Ah. I knew I was missing something. Still seems very good though.
What kind of stories or books do you think will be told in this universe? Anything on the level of WH? does TC have ambition to make books and such?
>>94377280What people? Are the people in the room with us now? How many of them are here? Do they all agree with you? Are they all retarded?
>>94378659I predict 2 short stories. One from Graham McNeil and one from Gav Thorpe.
>>94378660>>>/lgbt/
>>94378611um theres already several video game references in TC
>>94378611That or I just described them in the breifests and most likely way that people would actually understand, and most importantly, instantly understand the appeal of.I invite you to describe each faction to someone who knows nothing about any of them in the briefest way possible that also sounds appealling.
>>94378684>>94378691Don't fall for such easy bait.
>>94378697i dont know i just think its ironic because the artist for this is a video game artist
>>94378691>I invite you to describe each faction to someone who knows nothing about any of them in the briefest way possible that also sounds appealling.Since you only described aesthetics and not playstyle, I would simply show them the art. Moron.
>>94378772Of course its going to be a superficial descritpion anon, Im not trying to describe them, Im saying why I was interested in them. Yes, aesthetics is important for picking faction, it is the first thing people see, knowing nothing else about the game let alone the faction, the visuals give an indication of what they are about. The descriptions I gave can serve as inspiration for making your own stuff by just referencing them, so you dont just have to work off the official art where you just try to replicate the official models.
>>94379018ignore the troll, 60% of TC is inspired by soulslikes
>>94379018Fascinating how you're still convinced you said anything of substance.
>>94379183Even if that was the case it was more than anything you have done, shitposter friend.
>>94375680>>94375680>Book>All of Black Grail physicalMy lgs community is rabid about the game and I think we already have 7-8 people pledging and designing terrain for games. I'm almost certain I'll get the sultanate and court at some point.
>>94378137>The only times you can argue 'true' demons stepped foot on Earth would be the two cases where Black Grail Hegemons were successfully formed, since those are specifically stated to be remote avatars of Beelzebub.They're not true demons though since they're made from human corpses>thousand or millions of innocents sacrificed Which is a crazy amount to visualise. But still just human bodies
>>94379664I'm mad these ones are so huge because they're the coolest black grail thing to me and I would've bought one as a faction leader. I much prefer the rusty armour look to the sloppy flesh look
>>94379664How large is the hell gate, if that thing comes through it? Or are hegemons born on mortal plane?
I'm going to run a four man warband with New Antioch, seems like it'd be a laugh with the Fireteam rules.Mech suits and automatic guns for everybody!
>>94380052Nah its made on the mortal plane.>When the Black Grail is allowed to spread unchecked, then eventually enough living things will be tainted, and so many Thralls, Amalgams, Heralds and other blighted servants of the Lord of the Flies swarm in one place they can become host to a Hegemon of the Grail, a terrifying shadow of Beelzebub on Earth. >The metamorphosis begins with strangely beautiful chanting, the servants of the Grail call out to Beelzebub from their ruined mouths, singing plague hymns that give praise to his beautiful creations, and petitioning him for aid.>Thousands or even millions of innocents are sacrificed. Their bodies are cut open and their entrails arranged into a sprawling mandala of inscrutable and powerful sigils. >The air grows thick like mud, swarms of flies coalesce into strange and ominous symbols. A dreadful abscess forms in the sky from which great bolts of diseased blood strike the tortured earth.> The chanting servants of the Black Grail, still holding the living and suffering humans within the foulness of their bulk imprisoned, slowly march into the center of the mandala. In an agonizing ritual, they meld together into a putrid mound of colossal proportions. As the last vestiges of the human hosts melt away, this quivering mass transforms into a new and terrifying shape.>If not destroyed by holy fire, then within thirteen days an armoured titan crowned by a swarm of Beelzebub’s winged children rises from the swarming mass of twisted flesh. Thus a Hegemon of the Black Grail is born, a nightmare who walks the earth. Thus far, only two Hegemons of the Black Grail have risen during the Great War. One was slain by Paladin Engelier who tragically perished in the duel. There are only 9 Paladins left, 2 died in battle and a third has gone traitor (and probably doing some ritual to prevent more Paladins from being made)
>>94375735Do we know if they will come as STLs or only physical miniatures?
I'm late to the hype party and completely out of the loop. So uhh are they going to release minis for this or are you largely expected to kitbash your own stuff? Because I can't really be bothered doing that
Question, does this game have rules for narrative play/campaigns?
>>94380227Imagine being a scout and witnessing that. Pure nightmare fuel, if you get back alive, you will not be sane when you give the report.
>>94380327Pledges and additional purchases have descriptions. They mention are they either physical or digital.
Ive been working on a court of greed warband of heretics as i wait for my physical pledge of the court of the seven headed snake. Its almost all wizkids as a base as i had those lying around uselessly and some actually fit like the artillery witch. Im almost done modeling and will be also do get to basing, my favorite!
Had a look through the rules and factions and now want to proselytize the game to everyone I know. Didn't see anything about Russians/early Soviets, though, unless I'm blind, but if there's no information then what are we thinking? Might use this as an excuse to get some of those WA WW1 Russians for kitbashing, but has there been anything said for their faction in the game, whatever it may be?
>>94381624Russia might be heretic controlled territory. Finns are apparently halting advance of ice demons.Rulebook will have a map, and we will be wiser. Although I think its missed opportunity if there is nothing like a tsarist Russia, or something like that.
>>94381624Theyre still adding factions. New Antioch has a lot of different uniforms even in the official art, if you wanted to make a WW1 Russian themed force it would not be out of place at all.
>>94380476Yeah, they’re up on their website for free. It reminds me a lot of Warcry’s narrative rules.
>>94380346The game will have official models through Only Games. The kickstarter that just ended had them available too.
>>94381089Neat. Ive been enjoying people making their own artillery witch.
Anyone have a New Antioch Warband?
Flesh Bred>>94383067>>94383067>>94383067
