Everyone knows that swords are the most classically heroic weapon, but what's #2?
>>94370369Hammers.
>>94370369Axes or hammers. Not counting ranged weapons like bows.
>>94370369hammers and axes are tools not weaponsthe real answer is the lance the weapon of the chivalrous and the main weapon to a soldiers side armeven "lancer" is a trope for a hero's the number 2
>>94370369Western fantasy: Axe or Hammer.Eastern fantasy: Spear.
Polearms.In the west its usually a form of halberd or lance. As noted in >>94370579, Lancer is even the secondary hero in a team. In the east the polearms tend to be glaives or pikes.>>94370378>>94370476>>94370608He said classically heroic, not viking fetishism or postmodern fantasy deconstruction.
>>94370579Please don't try to pass off fake tropes that come out of tropes.com as real ones.
>>94370369In the west it's probably the spear/lance? But it's a DISTANT second.>>94370610You nigger you have to go into viking and celtic shit to even get spears to be represented in any meaningful way. What legendary spears do you have outside of that? You have King Arthur's spear which is mentioned all of like twice, you have the Spear of Longinus and that's basically fucking it.
>>94370369Bows, then Spears, then Clubs, them fighting barenaked w/your fists and having a torrid, brotherly, friendship with a man
Why does no one say bow?
What weapons are clasically the most villainous?
>>94370369Sword then spear/lance. Only /v/aggots would say Hammers since they really only have that spot in video games
>>94370822Flail.
>>94370369Classically it's spears, which rivaled swords. But in regards to modern fantasy, it's guns. Specifically revolvers.
>>94370643>PolearmsAme No Nuhoko - The naginata used to pull the first island of japan up from the bottom of the ocean.Chiron's Spear - A spear he made for Peleus and was later used by AchillesGae Bolg and Gae Daerg - From welsh mythGreen Crescent Dragon - From Romance of the Three Kingdoms.Jiuchidingpa - The fighting rake from Journey to the WestLævateinn - From Norse myth, might be a staff. Sure as shit isn't an axe or hammer.Lance of Longinus - From Christian myth, as you brought up.Rhongomyniad - Arthur's spear whose name you didn't know.Tonbogiri - Spears created by the murderous swordsmith MuramasaTrishula and Mahdu's Trident - Tridents made by Shiva, one for himself and one for a favored asura or rakshasa (can't recall which Mahdu was)Vajra - Lightning javelins used by Indra. Zeus and Odin had theri own versions of these.Vel - The spear of Murugan lent out to various hindu heroes.Zhang Fei's Spear - From Romance of the Three Kingdoms.>Hammers and AxesAx of Fosite/ForestiHephaestus's hammerLabrysMjolnir (both as Thor's hammer and Donar's axe)ParashuUchi No KozuchiSwords win by a large margin, then spears come second. Then Maces and clubs come after spears. Then finally hammers and axes combined take up fourth place. You have to get into fiction written in the post modern era for axes and hammers to start showing up as weapons of merit.Stop being wrong on the internet, and read more history instead of game wikis.
>>94371091Gungnir too bro.Zeus's ThungerboltsHalf a dozen knights/hero's had spears
>>94370369Anyone who knows anything about history will tell you it's the bow.
>>94370815Because bows aren't heroic. They're plenty cool, and widespread, and useful; but not heroic. The list is swords -> maces -> halberds -> warhammers in my book.
>>94371662FALSE. For thousands of years from Sumer to Egypt to Greece, the bow and the chariot were the weapons of the hero and the noble.
>>94371667FALSE. These are foreigners and foreigners are defacto the enemy when you are a hero. Furthermore 'being foreign' is a state of mind, a state of mind that commonly involves using a bow. Heroes only use the bow when they are too far away to charge heroically into the enemy line.
>>94370369The lance. Picture a knight on horseback wielding one as he charges the forces of evil. It feels right, doesn't it?
>>94372208İ suggest you check out the attached pdf as an introduction to the points I'm making.
>>94370369Cocks. Big ones. Rape happened daily in the medieval period.
>>94370369What does classically heroic mean? What measurement method are you using?
>>94370369In what game?
>>94370369My dick
>>94372786>Rape happened daily in the medieval period.>"Learned" history from Game of Thrones and Berserk
>>94371662Why?
>>94371091There's nothing to be wrong about. "Heroic" isn't a property that exists in the world.
>>94373264There is no way you earnestly believe that.
>>94370369Revolver.
>>94370369A scepter? I don't know why kings own big golden scepters but they own them for a reason.
>>94370369/tg/ is going to hate this but it's trueA handgun
>>94370369Swords are a show off item for poncey posers. Since time immemorial, real heroes use the spear.
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>>94374240Would agree but the question is about classically heroic weapons, and I wouldn't count the Wild West to the classic period.
>>94370369Daggers.Paladins and fighters have swords.Rogues and rangers have daggers.
>>94370369Revolver
F-22
>>94379494Forgot heroic pic.
>>94370369Lord of the Rings spelled it out.>you have my sword>and my bow>and my axeThat's the order, contemporaneously.But if we look to the Antiquity, it's spear all the way.
>>94379494>>94379501F-18s are more heroic.
>>94370369spears obviously
>>94373264t. anime villain
>>94373264>literally a word/concept that humans invented to talk about human behavior>nah doesnt existyoure the reason the word "faggot" exists
>>94370369The penis mightier than the sword.
>>94370369Bow is the most classically heroic weapon, not the sword, see Assyria, Egypt, Greece and othershonorable mention to>>94374231>>94371662>>94372208kill yourself retard
>>94370369>Everyone knows that OP is the most aggressively homosexual poster alive, but why does he still feed the need to post
>>94375581>DaggersFucking finally. With bo-staffs being the third. Just look at a collection fantasy art.
>>94387084No, while daggers are common in both fantasy and history, I wouldn't call their wielders heroic. They're antiheroes at best. As many have said a lance or a spear would be more likely.
>>94370369sideswords
>>94370369The Colt Single Action Army.Six Bullets. More than Enough to kill anything that moves.
>>94370610>He said classically heroicYeah, hammer
>>94396241>Viking fetishistYou don't have heroes. You have gods who were, to a man, aheoric dickbags you pretend are heroes because you lack a moral backbone.
>>94371091heroism is completely absent from chinese myth, so you need to remove all those shitty examples if you want to properly compare
>>94384276>>94379501
>>94396582Precommunist China is full of heroism, you historyless fagalooon.
>>94370369The rapier.
>>94370369Fisty cuffs
>>94370822Knives, concealed weapon = deception = dishonesty/trickery. That or staves being tools of sorcerors and those who meddle with powers beyond mortal understanding.
>>94370369Your "Milk-Finger" is the most heroic weapon.
The 1913 Patton Cavalry saber
>>94396510I don't know what makes you think you get to decide what the criteria is.
>>94371091So your rebuttal are weapons from cultures he already mentioned, and Chinese shit that doesn't matter? Lol ok.
>>94370369Bows
>>94370369Bows are used by 'heroes' like Robin Hood, Ulysees, Appollo, Artemis, Legolas, English Longbowmen. Crossbows on the other hand in films are often used by a lazy villain.I would put the lance as a close third, as nearly always used by good knights.
>>94370369Gonna go against the grain and say bow. “Archers” in warfare may not have been considered heroic, but a hero can use a bow to great effect. Many poetic words have been said about the grace and beauty and thrill of a good hunt or hunter, which lends additional support and more mythological figures who use bows.Lance (spear too) is close competition but I put it 3rd. Those things can slay dragons of course.
>>94370369Peanus weanus
>>94405647GUN GOOD, PENIS BAD!
>>94397907What makes those cultures invalid as answers?>there are no examples if you discount these cultures in which there are several examplesNo shit, numbnuts.
This board should be deleted just like the loli board. It's garbage
>>94370369>but what's #2?Bastard sword.
>>94370369Historically speaking spears.But in modern pop culture I'd rather say hammers/axes.
>>94410901On sentence to summarise 70 posters arguing about nothing.
>>94370579>hammers and axes are tools not weaponsGood to know that they can't be used to inflict bodily harm.
>>94371173>Zeus's ThungerboltsHe said Vajra.
>>94410901>Historically speaking spears.except you are completely wrong
>>94370610>>94396241I believe he said /classical/ not medieval.
>>94410901>>94410905Historically speaking it's the bow.
>>94371662Greek heroes like Orion, Odysseus and Heracles all used bows.
>>94418618In that case, consider clubs. Only Odysseus is not depicted using a club as a heroic weapon, and I don't care about some Nobody.
>>94396884>>94397266That's a sword.
