Leman Russ will be the next loyalist primarch to come back. The recent SW leaks show that he'll released at the end of this edition
Vulkanbros...
>>94371273Good, he and Lion can finally stop being closet cases and fuck already.
>>94371273Will Angron be the punching bag jobber again?
>>94371452Angron beat Russ's ass even before he was a Daemon Primarch.
>>94371482Yes, ADB, we totally believe you.
>>94371482How many times are retards gonna say this shit out of context? Even fucking Lorgar of all people was smart enough to know Russ tricked Angron and could have had him killed right then and there.
>>94371490>>94371500>Russ on ass>Angron standing over him with a raised axe>hurrrr Russ really won!Seethe, furfags, your puppy daddy got whipped.
>>94371521Yes, yes, Aaron.
>>94371273I dunno, ask /hhg/
>sacrifices entire Legion and the defence of Terra to poke Horus and doesn't finish the job when he could have, dogfuckers claim great victory>tricks Angron by getting his ass kicked, Agron is still alive, dogfuckers claim he could've beaten him when he didn't beat him in any way besides a gotcha moment>gets actually knocked out by the Lion in a fight, dogfuckers cry foul>gets entire companies of allies killed in friendly fire because he's a space viking who somehow never learned how to coordinate space ship battles>lets his Legion get wrecked by the Alpha Legion while he's crying and moaning about the hard life of killing his traitor brothers>after his first engagement was against Magnus, who was also crying and moaning for the better part of the battleWe get it, Russ isn't a retarded loser, he just makes a very good show of pretending to be it.
>Be Ultramarine>Dedicate your life to the text of the Codex Astartes>Primarch comes back>Tells you to stop being cringe>Rewrites Codex Astartes into it's 2.0 version>Be Dark Angel>Dedicate your life to hunting The Fallen, torturing them for confessions and erasing the stain of dishonor from your Chapter>Primarch comes back>Tells you to stop being cringe>Let's the non-Chaos corrupted Fallen back into the Dark Angels and makes them his elite bodyguardAt this rate, what will Russ do when he comes back?
>>94372269>Be Space Wolf>Dedicate your life to fucking dogs until you become one and teamkilling Inquisitors who don't want Chaos-afflicted Astra Militarum regiments going rogue whenever the Word Bearers poke their head out of the Eye of Terror>Primarch comes back>Tells you to stop being cringe>Space Wolves become depressed alcoholics who don't divert resources best spent on keeping the Imperium free of Chaos taint
>>94372258>>94372287Space wolves sure make you seethe, did one kick your ass at a tournament or what?
>>94372258>>94372269>>94372287>>94372389Nobody asked, lil bro.Just put the fries in the bag.
>>94372389>>94372401No one likes you or your Gary Stu army.
>>94372535>marinefag arguing why his lumpy corn turd meal is better than the other marinefag's sloppy diarrhea smoothieNobody asked lil bro
>>94372269>Primarch comes back>Tells you to stop being cringe>Rewrites Codex Astartes into it's 2.0 versionReminder that most of the Smurfs, including Calgar, are seething at the holy Codex being changed and some of the particularly Codex-adherent Chapters are resisting the changes. Including the Smurfs themselves because they feel replaced by Primaris.And that doesn't even get into Calgar's autism over the chair, and his constantly feeling like Guilliman hates the Ultras.
Will Thousand Cucks ever stop being mad?
>>94372548>autist enters thread full of things he doesn’t like and wonders why he’s feeling butthurt Stop blogposting
>>94371410Who tops?
>>94372287The Inquisition is at least partially over what the Wolves did.
>>94371521Context, anon
>>94371273I'll probably be disappointing, they'll probably try to make him more Odin than Thor and that's boring. Guilliman is a concern for Chaos because logistics. The Lion is a concern for Chaos because military leadership. Russ SHOULD be a concern for Chaos because it's like trying to fight a wrecking ball made of blenders and all you have to swing at it with is nerf bats.
>>94372610If Russ didn't faceroll every other Primarch (used to include Horus too) they wouldn't care. Literally the only reason anyone talks shit, is because he's inarguably at the top, and he has the "furry" legion.
>>94373202>I'll probably be disappointing, they'll probably try to make him more Odin than ThorThat would be turbo gay since Odin role is alredy taken by Allfather aka Emperor. Also Russ was never know to be sage, just attack dog, if anything Magnus is more like Odin than Russ with sacraficing eye for knowledge.
You can only have a character in your story return to life when he's needed most once before the gimmick becomes cheapened. Warhammer sucks and I don't understand this boards infatuation with it.
>>94373563It was cool before it focused on characters. Like Calgar, Dante, Abaddon, Creed, Trazyn, Ghazgkhull, Eldrad all were important characters inside universe but there was no real metastory, just shit is starting hitting the fan and stop, despite things happening it was more like nothing ever happens. With Guilliman's ressurection we got true metaplot and multiple books about it and it only get worse further we go. Now everything is about characters, Guilliman did this, Liond did that, Abaddon won some super important mcguffin.>tl;dr metaplots suck
>>94373563Most primarchfags are fatherless and/or ESL, so watching big burly Fagman punch bug bully Queerman whule screaming and crying appeals to them in the same way DBZ does.
>>94373208Too bad the only Primarch he ever facerolled was the weakest fucker of the bunch, and never again did he succeed at executing any of his brothers. In fact, Magnus is still alive, so he even failed at ganking Magnus.
>>94372905>the pettiest, nastiest, most uncompromising organization in the Imperium>getting over murderous defiance coming from ridiculously divergent Space Marines bearing Chaos weapons and killing their best weapon against the biggest threat to the Imperium
>>94373202Russ' overall character arc during and after the Heresy paints him far more in the direction of the tempered savage than some turbo berserker. If he comes back and all the actual forward momentum of his experiences during that time and his 10k years in Nurgle's garden are flushed down the proverbial toilet for "le big wolf man" then I'll be pretty disappointed. Plus he'll be bringing back Isha, lets not pretend that's not happening.
>>94375012Russ is a fucking Gary Stu who always wins, even when he loses.
>>94374717Noting well that the bar to clear for beating Magnus is set at "being bad at dying" so it really isn't that big a feat
>>94375022That doesn't address any point of my post or really contribute to the thread in any way.
>>94375012>HE'S GONNA BRING BACK ISHA BRO HE HAS TO BRING BACK ISHA BRO GILDERMAN HAS THE YNNARI ELF SO HE HAS TO GET AN ELF GODDESS BECAUSE PRIMARCHS HAVE TO GET ELVES BRO HE HAS TO ONE-UP GHILLIEMON BRO HE HAS TO God I hate primarchfags so fucking much.
>>94375492One thing I’m gonna be upset with is the removal of the leman Russ tank because he won’t allow his name to be on an imperial guard tank that isn’t revamped.The second he starts to return I’ll be selling everything bearing his name.Because they’re gonna be nerfed for the new primaris leman Russ tank.
Nobody cares. Tell us what the refreshed Space Wolves are like.
>>94375542I'm sure GW will give them the same extremely high quality and universally praised refresh that the Blood Angels got.
>>94375535I think this is a bit of a deranged fantasy you've imagined yourself in anon. That's definitely not going to happen.
>>94375535There were Leman Russ tanks during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy, though. It's literally the same tank
>>94375012>Plus he'll be bringing back Isha, lets not pretend that's not happening.Is that happening?
>>94375665Yes. No. Maybe.
>>94375535Anon leman russ literally got new 30k models this year.There are old and new models of LR tank currently on sale.
So he’ll get a decent mini, a mediocre black library book, a codex lore entry that won’t match said book, and then GW won’t mention him ever again?
>>94375843Bobby still does stuff, no reason to think Russ or Lion will just fade away after their debut.
>leman russ returns>announces that he has the pattern for a new tank and will name it after his most trusted warrior>his most faithful lieutenant>his fellest hand>bjorn feels happiness for the first time in 10 millennia"Revealing... The Geigor-pattern Super Good Boy Tank!"
>>94373478>Odin role is alredy taken by Allfather aka EmperorYes. But do you think GW is capable of any other way of portraying "aged viking?"
>>94375675I don't know.
>>94375975>>94375675can you repeat the question?
>>94374717Magnus died, dingus. It literally says corpse. It also says "once again fulfilled," so Russ is who killed the two lost primarchs. The fight with the Lion was never a real fight and Russ was literally done with it when Lion sucker punched him, and if he's defeated Angron it would have defeated the point of fighting him to begin with, and even Lorgar knew that. Are you dumber than Lorgar, anon? Or are you talking shit because Russ is king of the mountain and this site has given you a hair trigger for furries?
>>94373202Lion is a concern because he's THE anti-chaos primarch. He can both sense warp corruption innately and permakill warp denizens.
>>94376018>permakill warp denizens.Every Primarch is going to get some fucking macguffin to do this like Guilliman. Don't pretend that's going to be something super special to Lion.
>>94375992>The fight with the Lion was never a real fightLmao.>Russ sucker punches him>Lion tanks it and starts fighting him>disarms him>outright stated he pulls back the follow-up killing thrust through Russ' chest because he considers the matter settles>Russ takes advantage, starts brawling him>they fall through a bunch of balconies >Russ finally realizes how retarded the whole thing is and starts laughing>Lion understandably boiling after enduring multiple insults to his honor from Russ during that campaign clock him>cracks his skullThere is no amount of mental gymnastics that make Russ good here.
>>94376044Also for context, remember that previous to this>russ threatened to kill the Lion>the Lion saw the wulfen >the Lion, out of respect for his brother and professional courtesy, decided to not have russ and his legion put down for being mutants>the Lion put an end to the battle as a matter of expediency to save russ' dogs from further humiliation at the hands of the enemyAnd that subsequently>russ, in his own book, declared the Lion to be the winner
>>94373208>>94375992>>94376044Don't forget that he canonically was scared shitless of Curze and didn't think he could beat him.
>>94372610no, because deep down they know they fucked up and the emperor wasnt really against magnus, but its far too late for regrets and they have to blame someone other than themselves for their shitty situation
>he will never prove that he killed a traitor primarch.
>>94376075>'The Lion never spoke of it,' Russ said. 'Never. He could have told the Imperium of our sickness and made it worse for me, but even in his anger he said nothing.' The primarch mused on it. 'He could keep a secret. He saw our imperfection, and he suffered it to remain, and that was the heart of his nobility. In the end, then, he truly was better than us. The archetype of Legions, the First of all. If I owe him anything, it was for that.'Too be fair, Russ makes it clear in his retelling he understands how noble Lion was there and how grateful he is. It's a nice bit of character development.
>>94376075>>94376194you guys really think the emperor wasnt aware of the flaws and mutations some of his legions had? I think he just didnt saw them as bad as whatever happened with the lost legions, the primarchs were just unsure about it
>>94375992>Magnus died>still alive and kicking as a daemonSeems like he's not dead, buddy.
>>94376242Aware of them? Absolutely. Willing for them to be public - and if they were public, willing to back them? I will remind you that he made legions of psykers and sycophants, and then publicly condemned them for being what he made them to be.
>>94375992>It also says "once again fulfilled," so Russ is who killed the two lost primarchsYou literally posted a blurb about an in-character propaganda piece, dingus. The lost Primarchs had fuck-all to do with Russ, Magnus didn't die, Angron didn't die, the Lion won the fight.
>>94372648they are vers switches
Man what is it about SW and Russ that makes faggots seethe so much? Like an utterly psychopathic frothing derangement, no other legion inspires these kinds of autistic outbursts. It's so bizarre and frankly pathetic, SW haven't been front and center in years man.
>>94376333>trips of truthChecked. And I dunno why but I find it incredibly funny.
The unknowing retard defeats the cognisant autist handily. Extra chadmosome-sans... I kneel
>>94376264Being brought back to life doesn't mean he didn't die, anon.
>>94376289Cope
>>94376333Because "reee furries." That's the whole reason. They pretend woofs have some special free pass for bullshit, but every first founding does. Take the wolf out of Space Wolves and suddenly all this retarded bitching vanishes.
>>94376194Yeah don't give the Lion a special pat on the back for this, the Wulfen aren't just some mutation, it's because of the canis helix Emps gave them on purpose.
>>94376696could they be regular space marines without that? or would they just die during induction process because Russ genes require the helix to be stable?
>space furries
>>94371273>le
>>94376333Dogfucker cope post lul
>>94376687>nobody bitches about UltramarinesFursecution delusion real
>>94377144Smurf bitching is because they're treated as the main characters when they're not, but "the book out dad wrote is the rules everyone has to follow" is fellation at least as egregious as what woofs get up to.
>>94376725They'd probably be fine, supposedly it's there for some kind of superior loyalty thing, which is about as nonsensical as all the other "science" in 40k.
Has Lion done anything? Is Lion in 40k actually cool or is he just like an event on the timeline?I don't want Leman Russ to come back (which will remove a piece of mythology and culture for existing factions you can play with, so in my mind a good piece of world building) just for him to be a wet noodle that doesn't actually add anything to the fun of playing, RPing or reading about 40k.>>94372258Scientists confirm HH novel lore is retarded
I don't see any space wolf leaks, op.
>>94371482That was before Russ got his two power weapons and the Horus-raping spear, right?The situation may or may not be very different now, especially considering Russ rapes and humiliates Angron on the tabletop in HH.
>>94376075>>the Lion, out of respect for his brother and professional courtesy, decided to not have russ and his legion put down for being mutantsHe also swore everybody who witnessed it to secrecy, and never said a single fucking word about it. To anyone. He didn't even tell the Emperor he had seen it.
>>94376333Memories of their jobber armies being demolished by 75 Fenrisian Wolves with invis + invulnerable + FNP?
>>94377496He has a novel. It's decent enough for Black Library.While Primarchs in general are a bit cringe, I will confess to taking a guilty pleasure in seeing the Primarchs trying to handle and deal with the 40k era. Guilliman bitching about all the praying and worship, for example (especially when he is internally seething at the Ultramarines for being all religious and hidebound), or the Lion complaining about why he feels so old (right after slaughtering a dozen Chaos terminators in maybe a couple of seconds and everybody else is confused as fuck because all they see is a blur of murder-death-kill and now he's bitching about feeling slow) and internally cringing at why the technology is so primitive compared to his era. They come off as the only sane men in the world of the mad, which is a good way of showing how dumb 40k is.
>>94376333I have nothing against the wolves. It's the players.Every SW fan I've ever met is a massive twat, obsessed that they don't follow the follow the codex, thinks they're some type of uber marines and is generally insufferable. also the way they redid wulfen was fucking shite and I miss the metal guys with bits of chaos armour
>>94372269Damn I knew the nu40k lore sucked ass but is it really that bad?
>>94377769I just like space vikings and think melee is more fun than shooting.
>>94378358how is that bad tho? it just shows how much the legions deviated from their primarchs during their absencegranted, they probably tried their best, but they did became cringe, going as far as to clash with the rest of the imperium either over codex astartes deviations or to hide the fallennow, I'm not sure what are the space wolves doing wrong right now, but if they are being cringe too, then russ will likely but them straight again
>>94376333Shit army, insufferable players, ridiculous lore.
>>94378902but enough about guardfags
>>94377265Yeah, being obvious mutant Space Marines who never take an L that isn’t somehow contrived into a win, even when all they accomplish is a fuckload of nothing that other Chapters would be crippled for, having a fucking Chaos god of wolf in their homeworld giving their librarians powers and repeatedly doing shit like bearing Chaos weapons taken from Khorne daemons and teamkilling Grey Knights and Inquisitors without getting the ork sniper treatment for millennia truly makes them a fit for the setting. Shit army for shitters who have to feel superior at plastic men playing.
>>94377496He's pretty cool in his new book.
>>94377252The lack of self-awareness is delicious
Primaris Wulfen now
>>94376018>permakill warp denizensLike he did to Angron? Yeah....
Sanguineous will be the next to return.>Guilliman first>Lion second.>Plenty of references to dante.The writing is on the wall.
>>94372648Whoever wins the pre-seggs wrestling match
>>94371273>EC next year>with FulgrimYeah nah cunt
>>94372269>At this rate, what will Russ do when he comes back?Officially recognize Wulfen. And burn Sortiarius. (Nothing personnel, Magnus.)
>>94378922Yeah, obviously mutated space marines, the Imperium never handwaves that for ANYONE else.
>>94371273Obviously it's Corax.He and his whole 10(!) member fanclub are ecstatic
>>94383739Can confirm, we are.
why no one ever reply to my posts? I make good arguments but people only reply to bait shitposting
>I make good argumentsYou don't, thobeit
>>94376333Wolf wolf wolf
>hope Russ will return as an Odin like character, more calm and wise, and maybe remorseful for his actions against Magnus>will likely get Wolfy McWolf LupinWolfyWolf
>>94387538>TTSniggerYou get what you deserve
>>94383739Corax have too much fun giving Lorgar wedgies and shoving him into lockers to leave warp and return to Imperium
>>94387621Obligatory reminder that Lorgar permakilled emo chicken wigger and forgot about him.>verification not required
>>94371273>40gayNo one cares 30k is where it is at, 40k is for fags now.
>>94372595That storyline was dropped when Calgar crossed the Rubicon Primaris, now Ultramarines have seen the truth thanks to their spiritual liege.
>>94387538>an Odin like character, more calm and wiseI mean, Odin means something like "The Furious One", some of his other names include "Fighthappy", "Fire-eye", "The Unhinged One", "The Rager" and "The Terrifying One", plus he's the patron god of berserkers.He's been known to be a bit irate at times.
>>94371273does anyone care?primarchs are boring in general and he',s the most boring of them all
>>94387629According to what?
>>94378902>insufferable players>when eldar and guard players existI could say orks, too, but they can take a joke.
>>94376333There's something annoyingly dull and mary suish about them. They're like reverse Ultramarines - smurfs are boring because aside from their vague Roman vibes (which most of the Imperium has by default) and being well organized (wow!) they don't really have any specific theme or gimmick. Space furries are the opposite - they're boring, because their theme is so blatantly one-dimensional, overdone, obnoxious and omnipresent. They feel like a selfparody. Compare that to Salamanders or Blood Angels or Thousand Sons who while obviously themed around dragons, vampires and mummies still manage to have some fun twist in their lore that makes them a bit more than they seem at first glance.tldr SWs are fucking flat + vikang fatigue
>>94387772>t. salty yifftranny
Primarchs should have never come back. Ever. None of them. They're ok in HH, but they should have never been in 40k.
I like the Space Wolves but they did lean too much into wolf wolfing wolves a bit and not enough on being space vikings.
>>94387962Also this. The whole Horus Heresy should have never been elaborated on with the exception of shrouded in history myths.
>>94387992I do agree with you, but with a caveat: HH is the only large battle game from FW I enjoy nowadays. I know that Bligh was fine with the Black Library (shit) and while I do wish the HH had stayed a mythical event, I did enjoy the black books since they were 1) in-universe, 2) very well done, and 3) didn't claim to be /the authority/ on the HH and there was explicit understanding that this was an in-universe perspective that, while well enough researched (in-universe), but wasn't entirely truthful or correct. Now we have unironic rivet-counters (not that I have anything against them, really) for a conflict that didn't happen that takes both Black Library shit and the black books as holy gospel that is the /only way/ to do anything with the HH. If you understand my meaning here. For modeling/painting, I do agree that there should be standards to what is presented as 30k and all that, but a lot of (retards) go way too far. No, that does not mean I want Primaris in 30k, by the way.
>>94388033I'll be honest, I'm more of a secondary(I bought some nids, painted some, realized this wasn't really for me, and confirmed it with tabletop sim), but love the TTRPGs and such. But I do think: the actual wargame > whatever lore because that is really what it's all about, even if it's my least favorite aspect.
>>94376333There's just something about Vikings that attracts the most boring fake-edgy dorks. The same dynamic exists in historical re-enactment where even uber nerd rejects who spend their time and money pretending to be knights or whatever all fucking hate Viking reenactors and think they're insufferable. Being alleged furfags doesn't help.
>we will never get Daemon Corax
>>94387538GW can't do nuance.
what sw leaks
>>94376333I read a theory that Russ is characterised as a jock and most 40k fans being nerds have residual hate from their high school days, this is why most SW hate comes from armies perceived as ''smarter'' like Thousand Sons and why DA/UM players usually get along with them, think that MovieBob meme where it says ''political views based entirely around being vindictive against people who were mean to them in high school in 1997''
>>94394344That'd explain why all 40Kiddies seethe at the Chad-coded eldar.
>>94375775I didn’t know that.All I know is the new truscale came for my guard army and now I expect all of my models are on the chopping block.
>>94377629This is the best quality of the primarchs. The Rip Van Winkle quality is one of the best and allows for very unique story telling.Especially with HH being used to cement their personalities prior to their arrival in 40k.That being said, it’s not a gimmick you can milk for a decade.
>>94397593>allows for very unique story telling.lol
>>94371273I doubt it
>>94394344>implyingSpace Wolves are Vikings In Space, vikings are popular, edgy contrarians on 4chan hate what's popular which means they hate vikings and thus by proxy hate the Space Wolves. That and, y'know, the furry stuff, but that's separate.
>>94371273>end of the edition>several armies still dont have codexesSo in like 3-4 more years?
>>94371273hopefully he will murdersuicide with the lion so we are back to only gule-man.
>>94394344I like how yiffcucks have to invent all these different mental gymnastics copes to justify why they're disliked when the answer is staring them in the face.
>>94387538>maybe remorseful for his actions against Magnuswhich will be the funnier because the furry will come back with one less eye toomaybe he will even bring a mutated corax as his pet/feathery wincest buddy
>>94406123Oh no the furry thing is part of why they're disliked, it's just a stupid reason.
>>94381463So Lion every time?
Other than being annoyingly wolf obsessed is there any basis for SW being called the furfag legion? Seems more like grasping for things to hate about them from my perspective.
>>94414480Scroll up, people also complain about the special treatment they get in the lore but...all the first founding legions get treated differently. They don't ALL do something that another chapter might get punished for, but plenty of them do.
>>94381012There's a small problem you know...he happens to be deadAnd bringing him back would diminish his sacrifice
>>94391283Is not a daemon, even Lorgar said it
>>94414480>turn into wolfmen>turn into literal wolves>literally ride their wolfbrothers into battle>worship the wolfsona worldspirit of their homeworld>have special fursona helmets
I just hate the fenrisian wolves being people so fucking much, it's really really stupid. I think Wulfen would also be much easier to like if it was more of a psychological insane berserker thing like the death company, without the bad hair day. I guess the literal werewolf stuff must appeal to somebody, but I can't take it seriously.
>>94414480It's just fags from reddit seething. Yes I know "ur reddit" is a pretty common pejorative around here but r/40klore has a deranged, seething hatred of SW. Since so much overflow from them come here, it's inevitable /tg/ would absorb some of that retardation via osmosis.
>>94416046>it's really really stupidThen just ignore it. It's only as canon as you let it be.
>>94413787It's far from the only reason they're disliked, Space Yiffs happen to be the center of a venn diagram consisting of multiple different but equally loyd and obnoxious groups>vikaboos are loud and obnoxious >furfags are loud and obnoxious >wolffags (distinct from furfags despite massive overlap) are loud and obnoxious >marinefags are already loud and obnoxious, but Yiffs are special snowflake marines AND HH/founding legion marines, which appeal to an even louder and more obnoxious subset of marinefagsCombine all of these groups together and you get a uniquely bottom of the barrel fanbase that also has a massive victim complex, as seen by posts like >>94394344 and >>94416101.
>>94417167god you're a whiney little girl
>>94417394t. dog wolfborn impotently wolfing his wolfclaw
>>94414647They literally made new ones on account of how terrible those were lmao
>>94376333The SW were a cool variant chapter right up until the 5th edition codex came out. The word "wolf" was overused to the point of absurdity, they got literal wolf cavalry, their chapter master drove a fucking santa sleigh... They became a frequent target of mockery and punching bag of shitty writing in addition to being pretty powerful rules wise which attracted a lot of powergamers and generated bitterness towards them.Then the HH books started to come out and the wolf stuff was just straight up jettisoned. Their BL novel focused entirely on the viking theme and portrayed them as smart guys who intentionally use the whole barbarian thing as cover. They're now back to being just a cool variant but there's still a lot of holdover hate from 5th edition. People around here just regurgitate the same stale memes.
>>94417629Horus heresy is where the fenrisian wolfs being people thing comes from.
>>94417633And that's about the only wolf thing it has and even then only an implication.
>>94417647If we are talking implications then Kaspar's buddy is implied to have been turned into a wolf by space wolf apotecharies going by the final scene.
>>94371288Salamanders don't have their own codex and have two named characters as their "chapter specific roster". It was always going to be Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and Blood Angels. The fifth is a little more up in the air but probably Rogal Dorn comes back so you can run him in a black templar army because why not?
>>94417662not a huge fan of the primarchs and big centerpieces, but since it's gonna happen anyway I hope they throw a curveball and give us jetbike khan. would be excellent conversion fodder (and dorn would be boring as sin)
>>94417629>and portrayed them as smart guys who intentionally use the whole barbarian thing as coverWrong. They are literally retarded barbarians who claim to be smart and that the barbarian thing is a cover but then all they do is charging into the enemy Like when they pretend to be dumb barbarians and get trapped by the alpha legion in that nebula, and their only way out they can think off is to charge the AL ships, only to get slaughtered because ofc their super smart "we are not dumb barbarians" plan of a frontal attack was obvious to see through for the AL.
>werewolf stuffWarhammer's obviously trying to take back the millions of fans it lost due to Warcraft
>>94387785All your knowledge of ultras comes from reddit
>>94417394I accept your concession
>>94417629>They're now back to being just a cool variantLol, this is some severe HHtranny cope
