What happens if two liches decide to use the same object as their phylactery? Has this ever happened in any settings lore? Does one get shunted out? Do they have to share? Do they fuse?
>>94376672they're married
>>94376672Their minds fuse into one mind and their souls both go to gay hell.
>>94376744>gay hellthe viziepop one?
>>94376672>what happensOne of them stays dead. Forever.
>>94376744You must know from experience?
>>94376672>What happens if two liches decide to use the same object as their phylactery?Hmm. You know, I don't think any description of the ritual actually says you can't do this, so by Air Bud rules, it's allowed.>Do they have to share?I think this is the best option, if for no other reason then the comedy potential of two liches who hate each other but can't kill each other.
>>94376885>if for no other reason then the comedy potential of two liches who hate each other but can't kill each other.Shit, he's right, that would be completely great. A thousand years of human history could be shaped by the fallout from their slapfights.
>>94376924OUR SCENE BEGINS AS ONE SKELETON HOLDS A HAMMER ABOVE A NOVELTY STATUETTE OF A GNOME WHILE ANOTHER WATCHES, ARMS FOLDED:>I'll do it this time Xathos! I swear I'll do it!>You idiot! I swapped our phylactery for a fake one decades ago!>But Relthon! Where did you put it?>In the one place you would never think to look!>Where?!SILENCE PASSES BETWEEN THE TWO CORPSES>I don't remember.>Fool!>Idiot!Then some adventures are hired and some rival adventures are also hired and a campaign can happen.
>>94376885>>94376924>>94378401
>>94376885>>94376924>>94378401I'm guessing that the "slapfights" consist mostly of them taking turns imprisoning each other and ruining each others' research because those are basically the worst things they can do to each other.
>>94376672The first one gets it (and the other soul can't enter), or they break the phylactery, or their souls merge (doubtful), or one soul consumes the other.
>>94376672One or both of them fail. Each lich has to cast enchant an item and I'd say that once the phylactery has been enchanted by one lich it would become a source of contaminating magic preventing a second enchant an item spell being cast upon it and the second spell could contaminate the first. Or vice versa.
>>94376672Whatever the writer wants. None of this shit is real. Retard.
>>94379292> and I'd say that once the phylactery has been enchanted by one lich it would become a source of contaminating magicYOU’D say that, but it’s not explicit in any description of the ritual. So are you SURE Air Bud rules don’t apply?
>>94376672There are several reasons this question is stupid.First is that the ritual to become a lich is individualized to each caster requiring unique reagents and items, so they wouldn't share.The second is that casters who become liches are generally paranoid egotistical sociopathic loners and a second person trying to become a lich in close proximity is a danger, so doing it by yourself away from others is paramount.You cannot enchant an already enchanted object and two casters trying to enchant an object at once cancels each other out. One or the other gets the object.A phylactery is not any random object, but a purpose-built item decorated in jewels and precious metals within which is kept a series of spellbound scrolls that act as the receptacle for the lich's soul. Its individualized nature is a reflection of the caster's personality and soul and an important component of the ritual. A phylactery that is not built by the lich will not work. (and why /tg/s obsession with cosmic liches who use concepts and abstracts or immensely large objects like moons as phylacteries are retarded)There are other reasons but these are the big ones that prevent it.
>>94382837Source?
>>94376672Seems like the simplest answer is that destroying the phylactery destroys them both. If the liches are gregarious enough to share a phylactery in the first place, they get the benefit of being able to split the production cost.
>>94384234>Source?The writeup for litches usually includes a description of the phylactery-assembling process.
>>94376815>not even confident in your own shitty zingerLow test beta male detected
>>94384234You'd already know if you actually played games
>spider ribs
>>94382837>You cannot enchant an already enchanted object Says who? It was certainly possible in 2e and 3e, at least, since both of those had magic item crafting rules that often required existing magic items, or allowed for upgrading existing magic items.
>>94376672They Get They Dick Sucked
>>94388088D&D: NoD&D Basic: NoAD&D 1: NoAD&D 2: YesD&D 3: NoD&D 4: NoD&D 5: MaybeD&D: Doesn't even mention phylactery.D&D Basic: Doesn't even mention phylactery.1: Mentions phylactery once, doesn't even say what it's for let alone how to make it2: Tells you the spells for the phylactery and the potion.3: Writing "requires Craft Wondrous Item feat" does not describe the process4: Barely mentions any details of the lich's transforming ritual, doesn't describe the process of the phylactery5: The phylactery is "prepared" with the inside having "arcane sigils" but it makes no mention of it being a magic item.
>>94376744what if someone's overthrown the kingdom to instate gay marriage though
>>94376885>Air Bud rulesTHERE'S NO RULE THAT LICHES CAN'T PLAY BASKETBALL
>>94391307But what if the basketball was both liches' phylactery
>>94391636Then we're entering Space Jam territory, and as everyone knows Michael Jordan would beat a Golden Retriever in a wizard battle.
>>94391307I mean I'm half convinced that the reason /tg/ has gone to shit is because Bill Murry wasn't able to beat the Lichnomancer when he came to jam.
>>94391644If Air Bud was a Blink Dog, however, it could go either way.
Whenever one of them dies, they both get yanked back to their phylactery
>>94393106Yes, that's perfect, and then they can bicker hardcore while their bodies are regenerating.
>>94393106>>94393279For such a simple premise this is a really fun thread.
>>94395900This is an elegant thread from a more civilized age. For over 9000 hours /tg/ used to be like this all the time. Before the Dark Times. Before 2016.
>>94395999You seem exceedingly upset people point out you don't actually play games
do you think the liches accidentally switch bodies now and then? having to deal with each others magic specializations and grumbling all the way through it, having to ask one another as politely as they possibly can for help with why a ritual isnt working for them and insulting them as thanks, etc.
>>94395999Nah, /tg/ went to shit when nazimod got control of the board and banned literally any thread that wasn't 100% related to video games. It was so effective at destroying it, trolls still use the same tactic to this day, claiming anything and everything is not /tg/ related.
>>94401232I feel /tg/ could have recovered from that, but the 2016 never ending tourist season was the fatal blow.>>94396185This is another problem. No one in /tg/ ever used to care whether or not an active game was being played right now. Because it was nonsensical to care. Unless you’re tripfagging, we’re all Anonymous here. There’s no possible way to actually know, and different tables can have such different players at them that you can’t possibly counter with “no one would ever X”, because there is 100% a table where someone is Xing right now.Does whether or not the Dread Gazebo story was real actually matter?
>>94376672https://youtu.be/Eiw8FtCt7N4?si=cvadD41kAxyyiC3l&t=22
>>94405203>There is 100% a table where someone is Xing right now.Feel like I need this point in an image I can repost every thread someone tries to make that argument.
>>94405203>Does whether or not the Dread Gazebo story was real actually matter?It does when you use it and shit like Bearington, Old Man Henderson, and other fake shit to build your whole "culture" on. People complain about the Matt Mercer Effect and how Critical Role fucked up the expectations of people heading into TRPGs, but /tg/'s subcommunity of people LARPing as TRPG players have been doing that for years with their lolsorandumb greentexts that never even happened in the first place. Eventually, people got sick of it and especially of your insistence that it doesn't matter if you're caught lying.
>>94408269>It does when you use it and shit like Bearington, Old Man Henderson, and other fake shit to build your whole "culture" onDoes it, though? Does it really?>your insistence that it doesn't matter if you're caught lying.But that's the thing, you haven't caught anyone lying. You couldn't possibly have done so. This is an anonymous message board, you don't know who you're responding to and don't have any information about them.Today in my Sunday game, with a group I've been playing with since 2005, my character found a treasure chest at the bottom of a river of wine and blood in an evil carnival's tunnel of love wine while fighting off vampires.I just told one lie there. Which was it?
>>94376672The second attempt destroys the phylactery eliminating both nerds in the process or it creates a magical object with 2 souls in it.
>>94408362You lied that old man Henderson has any level of plausible truth.
>>94376672Probably depends on the game you are running. Which is?
>>94409554See? You can’t do it, so you get quippy.It was the vampires, by the way, they were actually merfolk.
>>94378411Hires group of adventurers to kill the other lich>Rogue, scout>Paladin>Sorcerer, pyromancy>Fighter>Barbarian>Artificer, artillerist>Cleric/Warlock multiclass>Ranger>Rogue, assassin
>>94380883faggot
>>94382837A wizard did it.
>>94378401Meet the Liches (Sitcom). Tue 9-10 pm on FOX.
>>94405203>This is another problem. No one in /tg/ ever used to care whether or not an active game was being played right now. Because it was nonsensical to care.No one who showed up after 2015 is ever going to understand that. At best, they think they're clever for lying about their personal lives, and they think they're clever to accuse you of doing the same. At worst it's the only reason they come here, they aren't in it for the discussions, they're in it for the posturing.
In 5e the MM explicitly says that a phylactery can only hold one Lich at a time. In the 3.5 it also says that "each Lich must make its own Phylactery".So I suppose the 2nd one would just fucking die trying to become a lich because the chosen object was already occupied.
>>94411692Forgot the images.
>>94408362>Does it really?Seeing as it attracts nogames fags like yourself, very much so.>I just told one lie there.That you have a game at all, we all know you're just here for "the vibes"
>>94376672>Lich uses an mithril-plated drolem as it's phylacteryUndead wizard with a metal dragon skeleton as a body. Always fun.
>>94412741Have the other lich ride it, either physically or possess it and hitch a ride that way.Put them in kilts with flaming keytaurs. Beholder drummer.Liches are metal.
>>94411692>>94411696source?
>>94376753Is this how Astarion ended up being a deer person down there? Did he fuse his soul with a radio then fused a deer's soul with the same radio and then someone smited him for not being attracted to women?
>tv show>old sorcerer chooses to cheat death>decides to become a lich>cleverly picks the safest phylactery:>the moon>finds out he's not the first>there are a bunch of liches on the moon>also werewolves>et cetera>it's a sitcom>lich roommates>lich moonmates>tv show is called:>moonmates
>>94420140Making something as large as the moon a phylactery is a huge stretch but the moon is probably the safest place to hide your phylactery, or at least good enough at seeming that way for your premise to work.
>>94420140>moonmatesVery nice.I once had an idea for an animated sitcom about how the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse appeared but it was too early so they had to get jobs and an apartment.
