One on One no weapons who wins in a fight? Stormcast or Space Marine
Usually the spacie. Acid spit is a lovely backup, extra organs make a mockery of exhaustion and blunt-force trauma, and the neurological changes include mind-outpacing-body level perceptions to the point of habitually running trajectory calculations.Even if you take the high-end of sigmarines against the low-end of spacies where they get the strength advantage, the post-human bullshit probably carries through a lengthy initial pummeling.
>>94376692marine espacial, stormcast muere por una simple flecha.
The grial knight.
>>94376692>>94376692Your average stormcast has more knowledge and experience than the average space marine. Between actually being centuries old none of that warp age bullshit and not wearing power armor. Stormcast are taking it 8/10. They’re basically berserker undead what is death and pain to an immortal
>>94376798>what is death and pain to an immortalis being pathetic, because it means that you are incompetent at your only job.At least marines only die once.
>>94376692Neither. Fags all die when I'm DM.
>>94376798>My trick is the eternal war of attrition.Boring!!!
>>94376839*cough*
>>94376692Orks
>>94376839I don’t think marines get to talk about competency when they almost killed humanity
They're the same, nigga.
>>94376692One is iconic but the other is competent, so it's a real tossup.
>>94376692Space Marine.
>>94376746true, Chad Knight beats both.
>>94377058Big difference between a kid turned into a killing machine and a grown man turned into a killing machine
>>94376839Space Marines are literally the prime reason humanity is in such a shit state. Chaos never had armies of roided soldiers to do all their dirty work until half of the Space Marines joined them. Sigmarines are far more competent by that virtue alone.
>>94379586Grail Knights are the worst of both worlds. Not as iconic as Space Marines, and nowhere as competent as Sigmarines. They're just forgettable and accomplish nothing of note.
>>94383781Sugmarines can sugma my baguette honhonhonhon.
I'd say generic Marines beat generic SCE in hand-to-hand. I don't think Stormcast have retarded agility like the average marine.I bet it'd be about the same for named characters outside of the real big dicks like Karl Prime and Hamilcar Bear-Fucker>I do not know Stormcast lore and I refuse to learn that slop
>>94376692My money is on Stormcast. They're basically spacemarine+warp demon combine.
>>94376746What's a grial knight?
>>94376692Brother genericus beat the average stormcast easily.However stormcast power grow ridiculously exponentially fast, with the lord celestant (basically space marine captains) being able to 1v1 greater demons and characters like yndrasta or the celestant prime having feats making primarchs look like toddler.
>>94385093>t. salty marinetranny
>>94384707Grail Knights but Spanish.
>>94383766>Space Marines are literally the prime reason humanity is in such a shit stateNo, the reason why humanity is in decline is Erda (a woman)
>>94384696>They're basically spacemarine+warp demon combine.space marine librarian.
>>94384696>They're basically spacemarine+warp demon combine.Grey knights.
>>94389011>constantly falls to chaos>>94389021>needs period blood to be safe from chaosMy money's still on the stormie
>>94376692Stormcast explode on death.
>>94376839Space Marines have a whooping 50% failure rate just in terms of becoming traitors and falling to chaos. They are, statistically, the single LEAST reliable and effective super soldiers in the entire Imperium. Not even the Guard has a 50% failure rate, let alone shit like Sisters where you can count the named instances of them falling to chaos on your fingers, and they include exceptional circumstances like Khorne personally intervening in Realspace to cast a Murder Curse on an entire fleet. It doesn't take the personal intervention of one of the four ruinous powers to make marines turn traitor, it just takes one slap fight with an Inquisitor and suddenly you've got a brand new chaos warband, or stuff like the Brazen Drakes where brand new Primaris reinforcements immediately turn traitor upon leaving Terra.Marines and primarchs have been a net negative for humanity and the galaxy
>>94377035>>94383766>>94393677>Space marines are incompetent because of the heresy.The fact that they came close to entirely destroying human civilization speaks more to their combat prowess than against it, and the fact that the traitor marines are still arguably the greatest threat to humanity despite millennia of attrition and warp corruption just shows how fucking terrifying marines are.Regardless though, the argument of their overall net detriment or benefit to the imperium is irrelevant. Would you argue a naked guardsman could take a space marine in a fight just because the guard haven't done as much damage to humanity?
>>94376692Stormcast is strong cuz magic which is vague and nebulous and therefore has no obvious weaknesses.Marine has abilities tied to organs which can be punched till they stop working.
>>94376730>>94376721/thread
>>94394168I’ll take that bet.How many single naked guardsmen we talking about? 30? 40? 50 million?
>>94399334The use of "a" implies a singular guardsman anon. I know reading isn't our strong suit here but this is a really basic one.
>>94376692Stormcasts still have regular human reflexes and agility, right? I'm going to have to give it to the space marine, since it's hard to flex your super-intelligence if you're getting socked in the head faster than you can react.
>>94400202>Stormcasts still have regular human reflexes and agility, right?lol, retard
>space marines>designed to fight orks and the occasional eldar, then whatever hostile humans had some decent guns>stormcast>designed to fight everything in the AoS settingSeems a bit stilted. Its like comparing Spartans to Space Marines where the former were just made to be glorified cops.
>>94376692Sigmarines are around a typical Warrior of Chaos in WHFB physically.
>>94403185Anon but orks and eldar are bio weapons designed by ancient race of godlike psychic frogs. Orks can survive decapitation and can build advanced tech out of scrap, while Eldar are psionic supersoldiers with one of most advanced tech based on space magic. Beside SM were designed to fight whatever xeno and werid DAoT stuff was holding human worlds and Space Marines were very good at exterminating entire races of dangerous super xenos, only thing that stopped Imperium from conquering entire galaxy was half of legions going chaos.
>>94403233AoS got elves and orcs too.
>>94403248But they are not designed as living weapons.
>>94383781They get super powers from simping. Simping for an elf. They got turbo catfished. And these are the ultimate supermen of the Warhammer franchises?
>>94376692Space Marine and its not even close
>>94376692Wihtout weapons Stormcast wins every time. They're bigger, stornger and made of magic instead of botched surgeries.Space Marines only wins if he has a gun to shoot a Stormcast with, but he wins most of the time if he has a gun
>>94403258Fantasy greenskins are the exact same greenskins as 40k ones. They were brought on as spores on Old Ones space ships
>>94404586>Wihtout weapons Stormcast wins every time. They're bigger, stornger and made of magic instead of botched surgeries.Stormcasts are so weak that they need the resurrection ability just to have a chance.They die so many times that the forge they go to every time they die has a line of months long.Also, arrow. >>94376730
>>94404384>the bitch said she was human!
>>94383781At least Grail Knights are not pierced by simple arrows.>>94376730
>>94404608Imperium's losses are much greater than that of Sigmar's forces.And Stormcast are the actual front assualt protecting regular people, while Space Marine hide behind palnets worth of Imeprial Guard before fighting anything
>>94404586>Space Marines only wins if he has a gun to shoot a Stormcast withPretty sure stormie bolt-throwers are superior to boltguns too.
>>94376692Space Marines. They actually can for a short moment go into such an overdrive that even a Daemonette can be caught off guard by the sudden burst of speed.
>who would win in a fight batman or superman
>>94376692>Stomcast survives all non-magical injuries and then explodes on "death" permanently killing the space marine in the process
>>94404806Always Batman
>>94404753They aren't a standard equipment, just something select few have.Standard stormcasr gear is melee only.Taking any ranged ones is like taking a psycher Space Marine as a standard
>>94404848So space marines are cowards who are afraid to engage in glorious melee combat.
>>94404837Unlike stormcasts, space marines survive worse things than explosions.
>>94404679>Imperium's losses are much greater than that of Sigmar's forces.The Imperium is a thousand times larger than any kingdom Sigmar has, the losses are so minuscule that they really mean nothing.>And Stormcast are the actual front assualt protecting regular people, while Space Marine hide behind palnets worth of Imeprial Guard before fighting anythingSpace Marines also protect humanity, but they fight in the most important battles.Also, you say it as if the stormcast are the only human army, without mentioning that to become a Stormcast you have to die heroically, which means that the stormcast are not doing their job well if there are still humans dying transforming into a stormcast.again, arrow.>>94376730
>>94405227Requirement to be a Stormcast is just dieing, not being killed in battle. That nigga leading basic gold stormcast survived the battle against Archaon's army as a mortal, moved with Sigmar to Azyr, became a Gestapo leader and got stormcastified as a reward for long service
>>94404631Those arrows are giant bolts that are effectively mobile ballistas, I think. They one shot giant pigs that Ironjawz Orcs ride on for cavalry. Put simply, if used on a Grail Knight they are probably getting one tapped. That Stormcast didn't even die from that, it was the spear tipped in poison that did him in.
