>"the setting has about 100+ intelligent races">"only 5 are playable">"they all look human"are people that uncreative and lazy? just have it be those 5 races then for the entire world!
>>94379582Have you tried playing D&D (5e)?
>this board has 150+ threads>only 5 are readable>they're generals and I've read them all before anywayYes, people are absolutely that uncreative and lazy.
>>94379582Why you want to hate on Talislanta like that?
>>94379582>Make race that is a slightly more different from the standart Tolkien races>Reeeeeeee muh freakshit reeeeeeeee
>>94379998No one outside the 4chan echo chamber has ever used that word.
>>94379998Literally the only time I have ever seen this happen is when furries try to push their degeneracy on the rest of the group.
>>94379582Fuck off furfag
>>94379582>5 are playableHuman is the only playable race you need. If a game has 5 playable races, you're better off just playing DnD slop, because the developers' intentions are in the same place anyway.
>>94379582>>94380116>>94380122>>94380237
>my OC race has 2 heads, one like a tiger and another like snake>they speak in binary>they have 2 pairs of arms and walk on them instead of using their legs>they have no fine manipulators but can move things with the power of their mind>they can smell abstract concepts>/tg/: wow so brave and unique!
>>94379582>are people that uncreative and lazy?Yes, they all copy Tolkien because if they don't retards on /tg/ will whine and bitch that IT ISNT REAL FANTASY.
>>94379582According to /tg/ and pretentious folk, using nothing but humans is the height of creativity and maturity the same obnoxious way that muh monsters/supernatural beings are actually a trauma allegory or we became the hallmark of "elevated horror" in film.
>>94379603It's not people, it's government/corporate actors who want our online experience to be as shitty as possible. https://crestresearch.ac.uk/resources/mining-the-chans/
>>94379582Most settings only have about 5 intelligent races with a positive relationship with humans, populous civilization, and no extreme magical powers. Really it should be only 4 because playing an elf really shouldn't work.And yes, if your snake people meet all those criteria and you reject a player that wants to play one, that's dumb.
>>94379582>>"the setting has about 100+ intelligent races">>"only 5 are playable"This is a good thing.
>>94379582>just have it be those 5 races then for the entire world!Players want variety. Some players want to play something common with a major stake in the story and other players want to play something weird (equivalent to hobbits from some backwater). This is one of the many things that makes TTRPG settings different from other settings. Dumbass.
>>94383698The fuck? I do this for free. How do I get hired?
>>94379582Furries are gay.
>>94379582>i demand to play a non-human like race!>ok>w-what?! i demand you treat my race as human like for all rule and plot reasons! it just doesnt really work or allow you to get pulled into the setting/story. how is he going to wear any of the cloths or armor thats found? how does he fit through doors for huge races and how does he not just punted away for small races?
>>94384637NahIf you really want to peeve them off you make their race common as dirt.The barkeep in the tavern they start in? Air Genasi. The local merchant who sells magic items? Also Air Genasi. First encounter against 6 bandits? 2 of them are Air Genasi. Local Lord? Air Genasi.
>>94384682Didn't happen.
>>94379582You weirdos are all the same. You can't be satisfied with an elf or something like that, you need all your games to have a race selection like this:>Human>Sharkgirl>Jumping cactus>Marionette>Fire elemental>Giant intelligent friendly talking spider
>>94384717ayo sharkgirl got a sister?
>>94384717Spiders are our friends, buddy.
>>94384648Did that whole town of tieflings in BG3 make the race less played?
>>94385023It wasn't a town, it was a refugee camp.
>>94384637Sadly the most popular game that features non-human races doesn't go nearly far enough to make them anything but humans with funny hats most times, so trying to make them too alien doesn't really work.What >>94384648 suggested tends to work far better. Some guy wants to play a centaur? Sure. Incorporate some local centaur tribes and trade caravans. They could simply neighbor the country where the game takes place or be integrated within it, but nobody is going to be particularly surprised or impressed with someone being a centaur.
>>94385253>heh yeah im totally cool with my furry players i just incorporate their fetishes into my game and all the other players and the setting itself just has to revolve around them heh deal with it i think all GMs should just do it without question>n-no im not a furry w-why do you ask?monster races are fine and even a necessary party of fantasy worlds. monster players just dont work though
>>94385271>hear someone mention a creature from greek mythology>immediately thinks of furries and fetishesSounds like a (you) problem, but if you're that paranoid just stick to human-only settings.
>>94384717Of course, elves, dwarves etc. for the most part are creatively bankrupt dogshit.What the fuck is even the point of slightly fancier humans?Either make the races distinct for interesting roleplay/gameplay opportunities or don't put pointless shit in and just focus on humans.
>>94385290>mention centaurs whose most prominent feature was the rape of women and boys>yo bro y ur mind go to rape?youre a fucking nigger
>>94381422>Diversity is so crucialYou know, when I was a kid I could relate to Samurai Jack and the Transformers from Beast Wars despite being a suburban white kid. What did these people watch? Did they have weird ass parents that only let them watch game shows or some shit?
>>94384364ok how? you be mad af if humans exist but you cant play them lol
>>94379595This, >>94381550 That, andG U R P SURPSOr just go play Iron Claw, since that is what you wanted all along, furry.
>>94384637>how is he going to wear any of the cloths or armor thats found? how does he fit through doors for huge races and how does he not just punted away for small races?Meaningless minutia. Most fantasy already ignores that stuff when it comes to the difference between dwarf/gnome/halflings vs humans.
>>94387164>Samurai JackDrawn like the Powerpuff Girl's dad, generic Western hero ethos>Beast WarsWhite as fuck cast, generic Star Trek ethos for heroesNo fucking wonder, you half-and-half looking mother fucker.
>>94385310When most people think of centaurs, they don't think about rape
>>94388456I dunnoEvery time I think of centaurs I think of Professor Umbridge having a centaur train ran on her for the crime of being a mean teacher
>>94387399Ironclaw's a decent system. Also surprisingly lethal with its combat.
>>94379582>>"the setting has about 100+ intelligent races">>"only 5 are playable"Yes, that helps those races actually feel distinct and interesting.Making them playable requires them to be balanced and to not have as many alien aspects as NPC races can have.But anyway, if you're a furfag, you can just reskin shit such as making halflings into mouse people (I think even the 2014 dmg had suggestions like that).
>>94388489The rape shit never made any sense for Harry Potter, it's only people drawing from mythology when Harry Potter centaurs were their own thing.Might as well compare Dobby with Legolas.
>>94379582How do you actually implement a completely inhuman race as playable? And I don't mean something like centaurs. I mean really weird stuff like >>94381550
You don't need 100+ races in the first place, but all of them looking human really is lame as fuck. If I wanted to engage in a humans focused setting I would not be bothering with fantasy in the first place. I see and deal with more than enough humans day to day.
>>94389479I mean... that race isn't actually that hard to make function, it'd just be annoying meme shit like d&d kenku
>>94389595>it'd just be annoying meme shit like d&d kenkuThe 1st thing I saw while googling for "kenku" refers to them being humanoid. How do you deal with a quadripedal player character?
>>94384717Anyone wanna stat a race of jumping cactus?I feel like they should have high charisma and high agility.Shit dex and normal strength.
>>94379582If the majority of race options are just Humans but extra parts just make them Human and make the extra parts a background thing.I swear, it's like trying to reconcile why you have werewolves when wolf-people exist as well.
>>94383698If their end goal is to make us stop hating trannies and kikes, isn't them shitting up the internet only going to make us hate them even more?
>>94385310Rape is just standard in all greek myth, nobody with sense inherently associates centaurs with rape. There's not actually even that much to associate them with admittedly, at best people remember Hercules' archery teacher being a centaur.
>>94384637>how is he going to wear any of the cloths or armor thats found?By that logic the most of the armor and clothing players find shouldn't find them either unless resized, which costs extra. At which point you can just introduce blacksmiths that can resize/modify for any race or magic items that shapeshift to fit the user.>how does he fit through doors for huge racesGuess he doesn't, but it's not exactly hard to set up a game where being huge doesn't lock you out of participation.>how does he not just punted away for small races?Pixies, gnomes, dwarves, halflings, etc - those have long since been staples of fantasy systems. This has been a non-issue for half a century.
>>94392175Actual liberals want you to stop hating trannies and kikes. Governments and corporations want you to hate trannies and kikes and liberals in order to distract you from real issues. It's not that complicated.
>>94379582The problem here is that your RPG system is inferior. Get one where you can play all 100+ races.
>>94381422All market research and studies ever seem to produce is an inexorable dumbing down of a product to try and make it accessible to the "but I ate breakfast this morning" crowd and ruining it for everyone else with a functioning brain.>Verification not required.
>>94395583Creative, intelligent or even just passionate people have no use for market research, they just make what they want to make. Market research is a tool for soulless husks who are only involved to make money.
>>94381422I think there is an appetite for nonhumanoid characters that is underrated by this sort of analysis. Films like Brave Little Toaster, Air Bud, All Dogs Go To Heaven, Lady and the Tramp, Fox and the Hound, etc; supporting cast like the tachikoma, R2D2, Aximili-Esgarrouth-Isthill, all demonstrate that people can love nonhumanoid characters.I do think that it's much less than people like humanoid characters, but there's a difference between that and 0.
>>94379582>are people that uncreative and lazy?He asked, while posting stale bait older than he himself
>>94395643Doing at least some market research is sensible because even creatives have to acknowledge the financial realities of what they're doing - especially if they've got a fair chunk of investment they need to recoup - but the amount of companies that used to put out good stuff becoming completely enslaved to it and pumping out lowest common denominator slop is just depressing.
>>94391175And they should move with a distinct rattling sound.
>>94395643>>94399655Market research is most valuable when you're using it to fine tune a vision you already have. It's terrible for answering the question "should I make something familiar or fantastical?" and better for answering "I made this, is it as fantastical as I was shooting for?" That said you need to take all feedback with salt and figure out where it's coming from. That whole ford quote about faster horses and all.
>>94392175>>94392783Also a reminder that the jannies do far more harm to the site than government actors do. Banning good threads and failing to ban obvious bots is the most caustic thing for board community and culture.
>>94384717Look man, my character art folder is fuckhuge and varied. /tg/ can whine, shit, and piss themselves over "muh melting pot culture" but if I'm bothering to name NPCs them I'm gonna make them look weird and wacky and inhuman as often as I can.
>>94402341Post examples then, if you're so great.
>her fantasy races aren't just extinct or made-up hominids viewed through a fantasy lens
>>94405785Gay. Use these instead.>Normans>Bretons>Franks>Basques>Lutins>Bisclavrets>Laboused an Ankou>Basajaunak
>>94379582Play D&D 3.5e.If it has an LA that's not -, it's fair game, as long as your group is up for that, of course.Also, read Savage Species.
