Return of Old Friends edition.Infinity is a 28mm tabletop skirmish game produced by Corvus Belli, and includes the related games Aristeia, Defiance, TAG Raid, REM Racers, and Acheron's Fall. Corvus Belli also produces the fantasy games Warcrow and Warcrow Adventures.>Latest official update:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZGhyMO8pmI>Rules and missions:https://infinitythewiki.com/index.phphttps://infinitytheuniverse.com/resourceshttps://infinitytheuniverse.com/games/infinity/its>Beginner FAQs and guides:https://pastebin.com/x06JG55Uhttps://pastebin.com/xtQzRcq5https://pastebin.com/xUBR7QFU>Model identifiers (what each faction can take):https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1T2IiNCg093KtAte3Pvry-OaHyk59ZzlH>Corvus Belli AI that you shouldn't ask rules questions:https://infinityuniverse.ai/>Semi-unofficial catalogue of fluff, dossiers, and unit models:https://human-sphere.com/index.php>Unit Dossiers archive:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YlopTsqhvT4yfgsEAYr6L_XxJ4Ovc7a0>Books:https://mega.nz/folder/NkglXaCD#Kj16fd7nQhEcaId8hKD4oA>Infinity Army (official list-builder app) and hacking helper:https://infinitytheuniverse.com/army-apphttps://www.captainspud.com/n4/Previous thread:>>94348096
Tohaa stay winning. get fucked Varuna
Fuck PanO. Can't wait for CA to QAZ Neoterra into a black hole.
PanO won.
>>94382013Incorrect, PanO is number ONE. >>94381929Varuna isn't dead, it's submerge right now.
New paint contest:https://infinityuniverse.com/blog/paint-contestThe prize for the first place is still €5000, not bad.
>>94382099I wonder if they rate conversions higher or lower?
>>94382144There is an extra €500 prize for the best conversion.
>>94382042I paint Kamau right now. Fuck CB, Varuna will live forever.
>>94381882>EM CarbineAlright, what are its range bands going to look like since it's either a rifle with a shorter barrel or it's firing pistol calibre rounds?>inb4 it's just an smg with an extended +0 range bracket and can -6 out to 40"Also will it be N+EM? E/Mitter is probably in grave danger in any case.
>>94382365>I paint Kamau right now.Post it.
>>94382443They are still in WIP stage.
>>94382518Luv me Kamaus.
>>94382435I suspect it'll be the Plasma Carbine but with E/M ammo instead of Plasma.
>>94382865>I was right about the -6 out to 40"I honestly forgot Unidrons and Samaritans didn't have plasma rifles.As I suspected, E/Mitter is completely BTFO.Interestingly it is B2 Damage 14 so it's covering the close range range bands that the Thunderbolt doesn't.
>>94382365They are living now in Varunilla. I just miss my echo.
>>94382435The only N+EM weapons are CC weapons. The rest are only EM.So it will be a carbine with EM ammo. No N+EM like cc weapons, no terminal template like plasma. Just a B2 short range weapon
Echo Bravo has a great mini but I'm not surprised that they didn't feel the need to put a plain parachutist in one of the limited vanilla slots.
>>94383119Was it revealed to you in a dream?
Varunilla is a very funny word
>>94383184No. But there is no reason to expect a sudden change in how carbines, or EM ammo works.What was revealed in a dream is that a classic TAG will have a slot with Multi HMG, and EM Carbine +2 Burst
The Infinity live-action movie is shaping up to be a great one:https://x.com/Neneko0814/status/1856632803523240222
>>94383283Not gonna lie bruv this was pretty cringe innit
My N5 wish is to get a new szalamandra pilot that is a cute lady
>>94383421In N5 pilots cant dismount their TAGs, so...
Akalis when?
>>94383518What's with all the new dedicated Pilot units (Mekhamobilya, State-Empire Pilots, Taguraida, etc.),then?
>>94383532so you can use your old pilot figures as stand alone profiles
>>94383518>sauce: I made it up
>>94383152It's peak pano armor design to me. I love everything about it, aesthetically. I might even strap a jetpack on and run one as a banshee just so I can field that awesome model.
>>94383421Seeing all the pilot profiles per faction, I'm guessing CB is unifying all pilots into single profiles. So instead of lizard pilot, gecko pilot, etcetc, it's just going to be just whatever the nomad Pilot is called.>>94383778That makes even less sense. Lizard and Maggie Pilots have been discontinued for a while now too. So If one of their goals is to tackle bloat and skus, why add a completely unnecessary profile and eventually a product for a mechanic no longer in the game.
Anyone have the jizzamurai? Is the head a separate piece?
>>94384195He is two pieces cut bellow the armpits for the main model. There's also a gun and sheathes, two pieces, that you glue on to the waist.
>>94384262Damn. Thanks for the info anon!
>>94384502Oh, for sure. He's one of the new designs I'm dying for a Joytoy already. This unit single handedly convinced me to start collecting JSA.
>>94381882Is 'Probability of Survival' the most pointless change in the game's history? Mathematically there's no difference, it's not 'easier to understand', and a fringe side-effect is that it'll make it easier for people to cheat, as they don't need to alternate between rolling low/mid on the d20, and rolling high on ARM/BTS saves. All the people praising it remind me of those who asked "why doesn't the game just have you roll as low as possible to make it easier?".
>>94384098Doesn't change what I said really, I wish the new pilot for the szally is a cute lady even if it is also the pilot for gator gecko and lizard
>>943846031. d20s already make "cheating" hard by scattering results across all the faces; a high number will almost always be surrounded by low numbers, so weighing your dice to favor a side doesn't benefit you to begin with. Only MtG spindown life counter cluster similar numbers together, and they aren't balanced to be rolled anyway and should never be used.2. Infinity's black-jack-ish dice mechanics already means there isn't an ideal value to roll. Rolling a 2 when you hit on 15s means you probably missed because it's so easy to cancel, rolling an 11 when you got ambushed and are dodging on 6s means you're going to get hit, and so on.I don't like PoS either but I'm not going to pretend it's bad for the game or anything. It's annoying having to change and the name is clunky, but I can understand them wanting a unified mechanic.
Is playing games against myself a good learning method? I thought about setting up a small scenario just to get a sense of things before I invite others to come check it out.
>>94384531So I thought about converting him to Neko Oyama, because the new Neko model sucks. I thought jizzy would be a great base for him especially that pose, but I don't know if I want to go through the removing and sculpting process. >This unit single handedly convinced me to start collecting JSA.I'm still not sure if I'm sold on JSA until there's more biker models, and maybe a proper Asuka resculpt instead of kuroshi rider. But the new shit in general looks really good.
>>94383264> how carbines, or EM ammo worksIt's not about how carbines or E/M ammo works. N+E/M is not just E/M ammo by definition. Carbines, by your logic, should all have impact templates, because the only carbine in the game currently is plasma.Also, normal E/M ammo had only been present in the form of a grenade, a template weapon or a specialty weapon, which fire darts for all we know. There never have been E/M versions of conventional guns, like E/M rifles, E/M pistols, E/M carbines and so on — therefore your claim is entirely unfounded.I think that it really might be a N+E/M gun specifically because it's a carbine: with B2 and short range, N+E/M ammo won't be that devastating.
Returning player here, I intend to spam CM, tell me how she's different from 6.8X.
>>94385842What
>>94384603I like it, it definitely is more intuitive to roll everything under or matching instead of just one thing being roll over. It's also more evocative: the smaller the number, the smaller your chance of survival. How does it make easier to cheat? If you don't care to be aware enough to see if your opponent rolled his dice again or just left the same result there without touching it I'm pretty sure you have bigger problems than bad mechanics.
>>94385203I do this for some games but I feel like the cognitive load of Infinity is too high to get much out of playing both sides since there'll be so much stuff you're gonna miss or forget. Especially since the ARO system means that both players have to focus on both turns.
>>94385416what are you saying?1: Plasma is what makes carbines have template, not the carbine itself. Im claming nothing2: No other EM weapon in the game, aside CC weapon, have N+EM. Carbine is a BS weapon, Blitzen (or e/mitter) is a BS weapon. No one have N+EM trait. So is easy to asume that carbines will also lack of that trait. Also, we dont know what projectile will be shooting. Mostly all weapons in the game except ariadnan and some morat are caseless gel, gas propeled, projectiles, so EM carbine could also shoot darts or flechettes.There is no evidence for EM carbines being N+E/M damage, only your desires
Tunguska stuff.
>>94387061
>>94387061So this is a new unit? Where do they post these things, their xitter?
>>94387109It's leaked to warcors afaik.
>>94387061I wonder how much of a points break Switchers get for having to WIP into the better profile vs just having the better profile's stats baseline. Also>Immunity (BTS)Goddamn. I assume this is just vs weapons and not Communication attacks, but still, goddamn. Fuck yo E/M, Breaker, and Viral shit.
>>94387233Yeah, it's just for ammo. Still pretty good. I also like the viral ccws.
>>94387284Oh hell, they're bringing back Bioimmunity under a new name?
>>94387289What do you mean? Bioimmunity is already a skill, it lets you switch your BTS and ARM for saving rolls. Or are you referring to how it worked in older editions?
>>94387303Yeah when Bioimmunity was just budget Immunity (Total). At least Immunity (BTS) is only one-sided, though; presumably there will also be Immunity (ARM) that covers the other half.
When you thought Achilles couldn't get more scary.
>>94387449I wonder how good Joan and my MO is going to be if this is 55 points.
>>94387449Fake, it doesn't have the new achilles logo (on top of being Absolutely absurd stats wise)
>>94387449Fake and the color palette is gay.
>>94387449SR?
>>94384531Nago?!
>>94387979Ewww, strive is gigacringe
>>94387999Yes, but some of the new characters were fun.
Anyone know where I could find the main lore book for Warcrow? I just recently discovered the setting/wargame and would like to make a more in-depth dive to its lore before commiting with the Winds of the North box. Seems like the Mega link in OP doesn't have that main book though
>>94387979These designs have three characteristics in common; sami blades, masked and dreads. Everything else in so different that I don't think I'd ever confuse the two if they were standing next to each other. Prognosis: Design blindness.
>>94387061>STR but needs a WIP roll to transformDid Praxis get hired to make fuckers even more borged out than Uberfalls?
>>94388676>taking a dumb joke this seriouslyPrognosis: autism
>>94388657It's this one: https://store.corvusbelli.com/en/books/rules/all/warcrow
>>94388754That was a dumb joke
>>94388826Well, at least your reading comprehension is above a third grade level.
>>94388773Yeah, I know I can buy it, but I wasn't asking for a legal copy, especially since it would decide if I'll buy the actual minis or not.
>>94388984Most people posting here are mostly ambivalent about Warcrow at best. I doubt there will ever be scans of that.
>>94388984Usually the community won't scan rulebooks as it's a pain in the ass CB provides all the rules for free, and the lore is the only thing they ask money for.
>>94388984people usually dont scan lore books and almost nobody have interest in warcrow, so...
>>94388727Yeah. The lorebook describes their image as "a regular looking guy surrounded by corpses and covered in blood that's not theirs". I'm guessing the box will have two switchers that look pretty normal, along the lines of a securitate but sharper dressed and then two buffed form minis with more visible augs. Or maybe a three mini box with the pilot or something. They don't really do boxes with two separate minis and the triggerman will probably be its own box since it has guard.
>>94387979Strive killed Guilty Gear. I do not give a shit that they are trying their best to balance the game toward older GG title. the franchise is dead.>>94387549that profile is fake but I am REALLY interested in how they are balanced. something tells me they will be more in line with Torchlight Brigade with better LT options and proper chain of command
>>94389607Pretty curious how they're going to box these guys up, might be a box of 4; one smg and the other one of the rifle profiles, both with normal look and cyber hulked out. Triggerman is pretty much guaranteed to be just him and his assassin nannybot.
>>94389655Both profiles are S2, so I'd be surprised if they bother making a model for each form.
>>94389634>Strive killed Guilty GearBy selling better than all the previous titles combined?
>>94389634>Strive killed Guilty Gear.I agree entirely, there's a reason all my friends jumped back to Xrd the moment it got rollback. Nago and Goldlewis were still fun additions thobeit
>>94389634I get that Strive is in many ways different from the older games but saying it killed guilty gear is stupid>>94389686True but I feel like it'd make sense fron both a marketing and gameplay purposes. I just can't see CB either selling a box with two minis or putting more minis than there is ava for them. Can't really think of any profiles that would make sense as a third mini in that box either. If the pilot gets its own mini it will probably be a blister since you wouldn't need one if you didn't play tags/vehicles. Unless you can take them standalone. We'll see...
>>94389745>all my friendsBoth of them?
>>94381882So the models look cool and the game seems more fun than killteam, but how easy/hard is it to find an IRL game?
>>94389958Why are you asking us? Shouldn't you be asking your local gaming group? We have no idea what your local conditions are like.
Did Shaekonnit stop selling infinity splits???>>94389634Joan v2 is so fucking cute
>>94390045>The list has been moved over to eBay for speed and convenience, but if there is anything specific you need which isn’t listed you can send a message via the Contact Form to place a request.Ask him and report back how much shit he has available nowadays.
>>94390176I don't follow the forums anymore, and his ebay page haven't had anything new in sometime. I guess I'll shoot over a message.
Chums, I don't know if I want to base in Black or White anymore. Which do you prefer? Why? Are zenithal highlights mandatory?
>>94391425>Are zenithal highlights mandatory?Yes. If anyone finds a model painted without using them, you'll be beaten and kicked out.
>>94391706I mean the exampled pic the guy did a zenithal highlight and then... painted back over the mini with primer and a brush anyways. It seems so pointless if you don't actually do thin transparent layers.
>>94391706This is true. I've seen it happen at my lgs. Some guy said he simply washed and brushed over a flat base layer, and everyone dog piled on him before he was literally thrown out. Even the mtgfaggots got in on it using socks stuffed with commander decks.
>>94389634whoever drew that should have either looped the loose end of the belt on the other side of the buckle, or turned the buckle to face the other way. now that I've seen it I can't unsee it.
Blink Profile leaked
>>94392999What's PS=5?
>>94393048Possibility of Survival, the new Damage mechanic. PS 5 is equivalent to Dam15 under the old system, so the Blink profile is akin to HRL (+1 damage).
>>94393057This is so confusing.
>>94393067Not really, it's literally just the damage mechanic but roll under. Armor and cover make the number higher.
>>94392999Blink-182?
>>94392999Nu-hexa
>>94393241Basically, she is literally a Hexa asset, from that organization. She even has the cloak (but only the inline since shes undercover).
>>94393082Well it's confusing because usually when speaking of damage bigger number = better and here's it inverted
>>94393530That's why it's called something else than damage now. I think there's nothing confusing about "smaller number means smaller chances".
>>94392999Nine nine nine, blink and you'll miss the get. I'm not sure why I would take anything other than the heavy rock it lawn chair.
>>94393568What's wrong with the multi sniper though
>>94392252What the hell are you talking about, looks normal to m...fuck
>>94393600same damage than the blink HRL, but lacks of template, and no more B2 DA in active
>>94393568>getNobody cares
>>94393954Superstitious get from several threads ago disagrees with you
>>94389815I know quite a few fitegaem niggas, I'm sorry you don't have a wide group of friends with diverse interests, but not everyone is you.
I keep reading Blink as bikini.
>>94394000Trips of truth, kek
Took me out of the immersion of the lore dump, but OK. This seems like an odd thing to note; is it because the next model they make will not have an X Visor sculpted in?
https://youtu.be/piXc8wdGnZ0>CB is so important in their little city the Major gave a speech at InterplanetarioKino
>>94387233> and not Communication attacksThat includes comms attacks too, based retard. It means that stuff like pheroware won't have ap/da, and hacking programs wouldn't have ap/da either... well, if this guy was hackable or targetable by pheroware in his BTS-immune form, lmao. So while you're wrong overall, you're right in this particular case. More realistically, this will aply either on stuns or e/m (there seems to be a lot, lot more e/m weaponry this edition, intredasting).Will YJ take texas and new york?
>>94395346Gift basket!
>>94395346I hope that there is an Interplanetario 2025. I'm not sure why there wasn't one this year.
Kamau done.
>>94395939Beautiful. Varuna lives on in our hearts. (And on the table)
The glowing bits many nomad units have on their arms are probably comlogs but is there a lore reason for the lights in their guns?>>94393882Oh right it's changing in N5. Makes sense.
>>94396326>>94396326>is there a lore reason for the lights in their guns?SWAG YOLObutnotreallycauecubeslmao!!Other than faction aesthetic choice I can only offer speculation.Combis and MULTIs used to be hackable and the Nomad armory is largely military surplus bought from PanO. Also to keep with the old throwbacks would be that in N2 there were more minis painted across factions that had glowing guns like PanO spitfires also had needless side lights.Another angle is that many Nomad guns share a common fire control system that can be used for quickly interchangeable barrels and receivers:SMG and Feurbachs are essentially the same platform, like using an AR to fire 9mm and also .50 Beowolf.
>>94396479I think the shared fire control with exchangeable parts makes sense: almost all nomad guns look very similar, not just those two.
>>94396504I was merely drawing a parallel. We can't yet use the same controls a Javelin has and also use it as your daily concealed carry with just a quick change lmao.I also assume there is a lot of cyberpunk stuff going on in the backend; weapons being smartlinked and only being operable with the correct biosignature, that kind of stuff nevermind that MULTIs manufacture ammo types on the fly IIRC.
>>94396566Yeah, I think that mass produced parts for the parts of the gun that don't need to be different fits the resourcefulness needed to overcome Nomads' lacking manufacturing cabability. I'm pretty sure that that's how it works. Regular combis are also little school science projects that mix the liquid propellant and round projectile in the chamber and that multi rifles just have different stuff to mix and match.
>>94396583It makes a ton of logistical sense. It's also really just the DC-17 in a spanish weeaboo paintjob.
>>94391727If you listened to him, he did it for the same reason that most people do it: so that they can clearly see all the details on the model while they're painting it.Generally speaking, priming in black is better because if you miss a spot on the underside of a model it looks more like shadow.
>>94395220>>94392999>considering entering the painting contest >really want to paint a few models from the December Beyond setWhen are they due to be out? If I start now I have more time to hone my entry.
>>94395774Esbozos was a bit tired of organizing all the event and CB did nothing to organize the event themselves
Want to paint my Morat army, but I'm completely loss in how to do it.I wanted to follow probably a theme. I know many models are adapted of real-life examples, and wanted to do so with the Morat, but their influence is not direct since its units names are not direct references.Anyone has some good references?Pref. advanced/professional level, want to take my time with each model.
>>94399120What do you mean, like real-life references? The Morats are inspired by those red macaques you find in Japan.
>>94399120Building on what the other anon said: those monkeys warm themselves in hot springs during winter like you can see in his image, so what about winter war themed assault apes? Could make their lore that they served in either the polar regions of Dawn or Svalarheima.
>>94399178>>94399398Hmm interesting.I thought they were based more around old mongolian or even japanese folclore (Oni).
>>94399447There's definitely that in the mix and the numorats have some (cringe) viking influences but they are supposed to be apes at the core of it
>>94399120Imo red skinned morats with bone-colored armour and maybe black and gunmetal accents would look very good.
>>94399479>morats with bone-colored armour and maybe black and gunmetal accents would look very good.Yes but I will also hunt down and kill you for aping my color scheme.
>aping Heh
>>94400085Show paint job... it's for a friend.He promised it's for research, not theft.
What's the deal with the bdsm demon the daemonist keeps dragging around the unit fluff doesn't mention it
>>94401977>why does Bakunin...I am all for knowing why things are they way they are but when it is Bakunin, the answer is probably "because"
>>94402043Yeah but like is it something like a pupnik? An android? A freaky human sex slave? Just some girl who hangs around her bestie?
JSA basing in a jar. Gonna try some of this stuff out.
>>94404236Thought it was some kind of food from the thumbnail lol.
>>94404236Bro, I think your salad has spoilt.
>>94402630Yes.
>>94402630All of the above
>>94404633kek, my first thought was to quietly replace the cap and throw it out without disturbing the mold.
One more day until n5 drops!
>>94407171kek
>>94407171Anon...
>>94407171Im afraid it was delayed until december, where have you been this week?
>>94407171I know, right? I wonder what my sectorial will get in the new edition!
>>94407275>inb I play scots btw
It's okay it isn't out yet. I'm still trying to figure out what to paint my PanO. Today I made a paint test file so, we'll start slapping other colors on it soon. For the moment I just had to get the stock configuration outta my system. It looks fantastic, but I feel like I can do better after seeing where all the colors are placed in this test.
Do you think they will post anything today as a teaser? Gosh I hope so.
Do TA players assign ctrl groups to traps or just navigate to and manually select them at the time they want to use them?
>>94409486Hopefully>inb4 they forgot to remove the scheduled videos so they all get out anyway
Real...
>>94411352fake and gay
Eclipse in pano. Alledgedly sval gets it on vargs and boygs
>>944118612nd part
>>94411528This one has the correct symbol that matches the CB video, probably real.
>>94413005It's definitely Real (Fake (Real))
>>94411861>>94411872PanO won.
>>94411861>Activate Disco Ball SkillPanO best factionhttps://youtu.be/PwUQWamRNiY?si=MBuiKiFVCZLYY0OB
>Pano engoodenedAre they really going to pull off the Imperial Service update?
I just realized: all the faction boosterpacks tag packs etc. For Nomads became oop not because they are changing the sculpts but because they are going to rerelease everything as is but under the essentials label instead of codeone. I hope I'm right because I don't want to miss a metal szally.
>>94413769Cancelled, it's PanO'clock.
>>94408194That is fuckkng cool.How'd you do it?
Why does O-12 use shotguns and e/m weapons if they are such huge war crimes? Hypocrites the lot of them
>>94413238My PanO is only throwing Italo Disco Ballshttps://youtu.be/6KEELwYFhrs?si=TY9Oumosxq9cfSwM
>>94414605From what I understand their shotguns are also somehow non-lethal. It just isn't represented on the table.
>>94414483Very nice of you to say so. I went ahead and took a screengrab to show you my process.I edited the 3D mini renders that were shown off earlier in an art program, for me KRITA was handy. Next I used mouse and keyboard to make new layers for each material type and then I hand brush on paint, just like I would if it was a 3D object. After I've painted it once I can select that layer and change the color to whatever pleases me. Really great for practicing before you begin a project. If I could find my tablet this process would go along much smoother because mouse doesn't have pressure sensitivity.
>>94415525I forgot to mention under each layer, depending on the effect I'm going for, I can choose how it stacks over top the layers behind it. So for the blue armor I did "burn" but for most everything else it's "multiply." Why you do this is that it makes the layer transparent and you can see all of the dark shadows from the model through the layer of paint. Previously I planned out my JSA forces in the same manner.
>>94414089>metal szally.best thing I own, and probably heavier than the entire rest of the stuff on the board as long as it's the only tag lol
>>94416640>chuckling Haqq player slamming his Maggy to the boardy
>>94417430How much does the new Maghariba weigh? I have the Avatar and it's heavy as fuck because it's almost solid, but Maggie's huge, so it may go either way.
>>94417464Acording to the shop, 362g. For context, Szalamandra is 200g
>>94417464>I have the Avatar and it's heavy as fuck because it's almost solidFuck, to clarify I meant the old Avatar, it's so iconic I forgot there was a new one.
>>94417804>Acording to the shop, 362g.Where do they post the weight? I couldn't find it.
>>94381882cute ass
>>94417912my bad, according to A shop...https://shinygames.uk/product/maghariba-guard/
Long Wang profile.
>>94418445
>>94418445Is it me or is this thing not very good? The lack of an AP weapon seems rough for an expensive TAG.
>>94418491It's very thematic with the biometric vision.But yeah, more of an anti-infantry unit / defensive TAG, which fits its role as a antiriot unit.
>>94418445>remote operatedBlasphemous! When did the perfidious chinese aquire such technology?
>>94418491I missed the BS Attack -3. I'm glad that other armies are getting it too. I don't think that it's amazing but you could do fun things with the shangdiao moving in tandem with the Longwang.
>>94418574It's not, it doesn't have remote presence and the art shows it having pilot arms.
>>94418574The pilot is probably welded inside. The REM doesn't have the pilote skill and we know that pilots are still a thing due to the rosters.
i was expecting BullShit -3 to dissapear from the game in N5, but is expanding... That's not good
>>94418804Why would it be disappearing when they've kept on adding it to new things at the end of n4
>>94418895only to that shitty O-12 Prime. I was hoping to them to think again and rework that skill
>>94418445>BS Attack (SR-1)whats that?
>>94418983Why does it matter what they put it on? It still shows they didn't intend to phase it out. Rework it how?>>94418996Saving roll -1, basically damage +1
>>94418804Man people are just making up shit to get mad about.
>>94419034is a skill with no counter, and it should not exist in the game, like in the past when they take it down from the kriza borac and substituted with mimetism -3
>>94419098Are you actually retarded or just pretending? That's like saying a unit with high BS and a good gun has "no counter."You counter BS Attack (-3) by not getting into a fair shootout with a unit who's better at it than you. Stack visibility, range, and cover mods so that he won't use his own BS attack. Hack him. Fucking get him into melee with a CC22 dude who can safely eat the penalty. You have options other than braindead shit like "we both stand in our optimal range bands and exchange fire until someone falls down."
>>94419098Why does everything need a counter? I asked you how it should be reworked. Replacing it with another, shittier skill is not a rework. Hopefully kriza can get it back now.
Your reminder that the most BV efficient weapon is the Mortar 8.
>>94418445He's really close to tikbalang, both in stats and cost, and tikbalang is one of the best TAGs in the game. Looks like a very good TAG, and also no bullshit like limited cover or anything like that.His guns cover all ranges nicely, too.
>>94418445>Fast Attack FireteamsImagine a Su-Jian with this guy.
Really dig this ninja. Please have a fierce profile...
>>94418445Getting hit non-lethally by a TAG PARA CC weapon is still funny as hell. Overall a pretty neat TAG.>>94419521Activate your Enhanced Imaging mechwarrior, you're in the wrong thread!
>>94418445Adhesive Launcher Rifle:>Like AP Rifle ranges>2 Burst>PARA ammo>Saving Roll attribute is PH -6>Non-Lethal
>>94420332"Stop resisting!" The statempire goon cries out as he turns you into pink paste with his "non lethal" baton
>>94418445>longwang>adhesive launcher
>>94420645The logo looks like a scifi uterus too
>>94419151to be a fair and balanced game, maybe?
>>94419149He's a nogames fag who comes here to bitch and moan.
>>94420977Having a cookiecutter counter is not balanced.
>>94420977Ah yes, the nuanced balance of making msv even better for zero reason
>finally get my griffin troop >It's hard as hell to line up his arm pieces>there's extra flash inside the joint that's difficult to scrape out Guess I have some heavy seam filling to do on this one. Anyone else have difficulty with theirs? It didn't line up to have his gun arm's air tube connecting with his face and have a clear connection for the supporting arm to line up at the wrist. A part from that I'm so happy to have one at long last, and the design really is one of my absolute favorites from the box set.
>>94423621so is he a horse?
>>94423653It's the new name for the veteran skill. Also as a new addition it removes the negative modifier from bs attack (-x). Hey, that anon got what he wanted. He must be elated.
>>94423653Hung like!
>>94423621Quit horsin' around.
>>94423707Just from BS(-x)? Or is it a more general “ignore these mods”?
>>94423857Just BS (-x).
>>94420995i have more games played than you, incel
>>94424068Suuure you do, ESL.
>>94420645
>>94423621discoball is a BS attack, right? Does it means that adil has continuous damage eclipse?
>>94424243I'm pretty sure you have to do damage to trigger continuous but I guess he does? Not that it matters.
I heard about something new called "disco ball" and honestly, it sounds ridiculous. I would expect it to do something like forcing every model within range to roll WIP to take action and upon fail being forced to dance for the rest of the turn.
>>94424330Disco baller shoots s1 str1 arm 0 bts 0 deployables that act like eclipse grenades and can be reactivated with a deactivator
CB will have a black friday, without N5 and without establised roosters for the sectorials. What a brilliant marketing move
>>94424418Why would the sectorial lists change all that much? Do people stop buying stuff for their armies because the rules will bw updated soon? This isn't gw we're talking about.
>>94424446is GW now, with complete sectorials becoming unplayable in N5
>>94424446Kinda. I have a long backlog anyway so I'm comfy not buying anything until N5 hits, but if I knew for sure some units are getting revitalized I'd be tempted.
>>94424446My sectorial was removed from game for being too good. Go figure.
>>94424459They should've become unplayable after N3 and they still kept them around for a whole edition, I don't think that's very gw>>94424466Fair, I buy minis based on what I think is cool and just paint them in my colors. Trying to think what to play echo bravo as in nomads rn.>>94424529Cry about it I guess
>>94424646they resculpted Caledonia and Acontecimento, then they went OOP shortly after and now they are unplayable.But thanks for your empathy, shill
>>94424704I'll reserve my empathy to people acting in good faith, troll.
>>94424710you have no empathy, you are a corpo slave that should defend every move of a company doesnt care about you or any other like you. You are not part of the company. They are not gonna say "thank you for defending us". You are nobody. Like we are.
>>94424738I just don't care for the removed factions personally and annoying concern trolls like you are annoying. If you expressed the same opinions in a less petty way and didn't repeat them every single chance you get it'd be easier to treat you like an actual human and not just a nogames faggot crying for the sake of crying.
>>94422065I get the impression not too many people in the thread even own Sandtrap yet. I've seen only one anon posting their models.
>>94424858so miserable human with no empathy for others, as suspected. Check
>>94425059Wow you sure are proving me wrong by continuing to whine in bad faith
> that retarded faggot is backI wonder if he even knows what "bad faith" means.
>>94425503Yeah, in this case it means "claiming something you know isn't true because it being true would be useful"
>>94425522Then how is it applicable to this case? People can think, feel and express whatever they want about what happened, and your posts saying "you're not supposed to be upset, here's why" just show us your overall intelligence and maturity level. You either are an edgy online teenager or have been him for the last twenty years or so, who can't stand people having a different opinion or not applying his own specific set of deranged logical rules to their thinking.
Another Varuna group. I don't have more of guys from this sectorial anymore, however. 4 helots, 5 Kamau, 2 Zulu-Cobra, Crockmen, Echo Bravo and Orc. Montesa, Squalo I and II and Scarface acting as Cutters were painted before.Varuna will live forever in hearts of their players.
>>94425631I'm not saying people can't be upset over a sectorial cull, I'm saying that the lazy concern trolling is transparent and retarded
>>94425879>Immunity (ARM)Didn't expect to see it so soon but there it is.
>>94426202>>94425879So, he is essentially invincible? Because weapons that target BTS are not that common.
>>94426473I assume he's just immune to reductions to its ARM.
>>94426202>>94426473>>94426513It just turns ammunition types rolling against ARM to Normal ammo, just like total immunity did. You can still kill em all the same. That being said my insane take for N5 is that flamethrowers should roll against BTS
>>94423621>AP Spitfire>Disco Baller>Still has X-visor>+1 Martial ArtsFUCK YES! finally getting some insight on IS having non-normal weapons!!!
>>94426544They would probably need to be rebalanced quite a lot but I agree with you.
>>94426473>>94426513Like the other anon said, it just turns special ammo types into normal. Like this >>94387061has Immunity (BTS) to tell breaker and viral ammo to go fuck off.>>94426544Just have a pulser with (continuous damage) like Adil.I'm still mad that fire doesn't burn camo.
>>94426670>I'm still mad that fire doesn't burn camo.Those little interactions added a lot of complexity and stuff to track but they should bring some of them back.
>>94426567Obviously yeah I just think armor is more about stopping kinetics and shit and bts is not only like your ICE or antidote autoinjectors but also how well sealed your suit is. Like how patchers lose 1 arm but 3 bts when going battle ravaged.>>94426670You really can't do that all that much though, right? Adil is pretty damn stacked. Hopefully the ISS gets more nice stuff. My glowing chinabros deserve it.
>>94425788What do you use for that blue?
>>94426670I mean breaker loses the AP but you still roll it against bts. Same goes for immunity (arm)
>>94423621I REALLY hope they figure out how to point or make the Pheasant Rank better than it has been. even if they kept the same loadouts just make them cheaper
>>94426815>You really can't do that all that much though, right????Instead of the usual stuff like nanopulser(+1B) just have nanopulser(continuous damage).Or just make a BRAAP thrower that targets BTS so both ARM and BTS have teardrop templates that attack them either as single instances of damage or continuous: chain/flame for ARM and pulzar/aerosolized super polonium for BTS.
>>94427093I'm saying you can't just replace that many flamethrowers with continuous damage nanopulsers. Nor do I really want to because i'm not saying it because I want a bts dtw with continuous damage, I want flamethrowers to save with bts because that makes more sense to me, fluff wise. You dig?
>>94426864AK "archaic turquoise", for highlights mixed with "snow blue".
fari is a faggot
>>94427867oh look, child9 has a hyperfixation in him so strong that he followed him here. You want his dick in your mouth? That will pacifie you?Go to a fucking motel and leave all the communities clean, for fuck sake
I'm gonna assume this is about some forum drama and say that you should go back to your unmoderated shithole
>>94428010I have no idea who that is, I just checked the forums and saw someone posting similar doomposts in similar broken english as the person spamming them here so I decided to throw a stone to see what happens
>>94425522ok, what i said in bad faith according to your superior judgement??
>>94428034doomposters are everywhere, anon
>>94428143That I am a sociopath because I think you are an annoying spammy faggot
>>94428150obviously but the person posted the same things at the same time here and there so I thought it was kinda funny
>>94427185>fluff wiseAh I get you now, but then we no longer have an ARM thrower and I think higher BTS is way more common than high ARM so you would in effect nerf flamethrowers by wholesale changing their damage type.
>>94428184Yeah I don't think it's a good idea balance wise that's why I specified that it's an insane opinion at the start
>>94428184As I understand BTS is cheaper because weapons that check against it are rarer but a ton of units still have zero bts. You just see cheap profiles like the raveneye officers have pretty high bts which might explain it feeling common
>>94428154no no, before that:"I'll reserve my empathy to people acting in good faith, troll."i didnt called you psycho yet.
>>94424243More importantly it benefits from the x-visor. tosses it 24 on 13s
>>94428346Before we continue are you that esl fag from the official forums the other anon mentioned? I kinda don't care about arguing with you if that's the case. Just go back to your whine containment chamber.If not, if someone has only started/held onto armies that have been oop for a whole edition and is somehow shocked that the most bloated to shit factions got culled AND spams retarded passive agressive moaning about it every chance he gets I don't find it as agreeable as someone expressing the same sentiment in a less childish and annoying way.
>>94424243it doesn't do any kind of damage retard-kun
>>94428386why they should not be shocked? CB never cutted anything that big before. That armies were part of the lore since day one, not like all that merc bloat, and even remained playable. Other retired armies went OoP and made their return, like Shasvastii, Steel phalanx or Qapu next year. Is bad that they expected their armies to came back reworked as others did? Is bad to feel betrayed after investing time, effort and money collecting figures for your favorite army, learning how to play them and now being unable to play them anymore?But the worst goes for all that people saying, Git Gud, just simply buy new shit. I dont want. I already had the things i wanted. I was happy playing what i liked. Why i should buy things i dont like? What if i buy a new army, who is gonna guarantee that wont dissapear in the next two years to leave space for a totally new sectorial?
>>94428228BTS is way cheaper for spec-ops; 5 xp for 1 ARM vs 2xp for 3BTS. The weapons that do target BTS generally are rarer but really nasty in some combination of AP/DA. It feels just as likely to have 1ARM 0BTS as it is 0 ARM 3BTS or 1ARM 3BTS, wish the army list builder let me filter by ARM and BTS values so I could quickly tally this. Not sure if REMs should be included in the list since they bare minimum have 3BTS by default.
>>94428643I mean Caledonia came back inside Kosmoflot, it's not like they are gone-gone and you don't have to use ruskies, frenchies, nor spacenauts. Frankly I don't see your problem beyond wanting to complain, it's not like you're a Combined or PanO player who actually lost stuff with N5, and it's not like you're required to consume new product. If you're that unhappy then just move on.
>>94428791>you're a Combined [...] player who actually lost stuff with N5Wait, what did CA lose?
>>94428643If you truly do feel burned and betrayed by CB and no longer wish to give them any money or attention, I understand. Hell, I sympathize with that feeling, getting your faves nerfed, let alone actually cut, always sucks no matter how "reasonable" it may look from the outside. Everyone is free to support or not support any game for any reason. But fuck's sake, just leave and move on in that case. Dropping Infinity is defensible; claiming you're dropping Infinity and then continuing to sit in it's general thread every single day yelling at others for not also leaving is at best deranged and more likely a sign that you just like complaining more than anything else.That's why people don't take these sorts of complaints seriously. If you actually felt that the culling was an egregious sin worth leaving the game over, you wouldn't still be in the thread that talks about the game. You'd be somewhere else, doing some new fulfilling activity you actually enjoyed.
>>94428879Skiavoros, and technically a bunch of shit getting sequestered in sectorials.
