Cursed Conversion edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>94377791 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread question:Post other cursed conversions
>TQRequesting the flesh-colored fatcast
Anyone got a SCE 4th ed battletome PDF they can share?
>>94402736Not yet
>>94402563>TQthat one anon here who sculpted a shitty diaper for a gargant
>>94402563Requesting slaves kissing Krethusa's feet.
I have the Cities of Sigmar army box. What should I get from there to move towards 2k? I was leaning towards buying fusiliers, and then continuing to buy fusiliers until someone kindly but firmly asks me to stop.
>>94402563Soon
Skaventide box came today. Lot of fucking models holy shit. Made the mistake of picking up the SBGL spearhead at the same time.
>>94403451Nigga how the fuck are you surprised at there being a lot of models in skaventide? It literally SHOWS you every damn model you're getting!
>>94403754It can be more than expected. I got Hivestorm and the terrain is more than expected. IRL and photos are two different things
>>94403754Nta but what can seem like a reasonable amount of models can seen overwhelming once in hand. I tend to feel the same way once I go to start painting units with more than 10 models
>$240 for this year's battleforcesthe only one I ever bought was the Ultramarine box a few years back and the fomo made me get the nurgle one this year. I plan to sell some of the flies but the harbinger was what tipped me over the edgehopefully I can get a 3d printer between now and the Chorf release. I don't plan to buy anything from GW for a very very long time. Just need to decide what printer to get.I think GW has officially broken the threshold for me. kits are too expensive and they recently changed their distributor contract in my country so everything is full USA price even though our exchange rate and wages aren't proportional. >>94403890>dozen listings for hivestorm book, tokens, and terrain on my local secondhand hobby marketplace cause everybody bought the whole box for just the models
>>94404226>$240 for this year's battleforcesWhat the fuck are you talking about? Where are you buying these?I just got the valorstrike lance from my lgs tonight. I paid 190, which is just 10 more than the usual boxes are (This lgs does full gw prices)
>>94404226>dozen listings for hivestorm book, tokens, and terrain on my local secondhand hobby marketplace cause everybody bought the whole box for just the modelsLol I bought it for rules and terrain, sold the models as I don't care for either team
>>94404283Was going to say probably leafbux but they're 290.
Does anyone have the skaven battletome pdf?
>>94404447If Castro Jr. has his way, they'll probably be 390 next year.
>>94404226Im holding back on fec box too I still have a nice backlog to paint and will fish for minisbfrom that box from second hand. Paying almost 600 slavic pesos for one box of minis is bonkers It wasnt so long ago when SC! were costing less than 200.
Do people still play this? Aos used to be more popular than 40k at my lgs with regular tables filled on game night and huge monthly tournament showings Hell, there were even waiting lists for quarterly GTs. It occurred to me on Friday at the lgs that I haven't seen anyone play it in over a month now.
>>94404226>$240 for this year's battleforcesHow much were they last year
>>94404542really hard question to answer anon. might be popular in other LGS's.All we can really say is that the new spearhead mode is generally well received>>94404548NTA but they were $210 in 2022 and 2021. they were a 30% "discount" and i'm sure they still are a 30% "discount" this year since the price of everything GW has gone up. In 2 years it's gone up by 30$ for some reason.I've about had it with james' kikery and incompetence.
>>94404634>All we can really say is that the new spearhead mode is generally well receivedOh yea. People were playing here pretty consistently until they weren't.
>>94404542>>94404634It's mostly Spearhead at my LGS. 40k is still the top game, but we had dedicated days to Necromunda and other specialist stuff.No issue ever getting an AoS game going, just had to make plans as opposed to walking in and slapping down a 40k army with zero planning.
>Anons bitch and moan about Spearhead being just Combat Patrol 2.0 that noone will play>it becomes the default way to play instead
>>94404696>>94404704
>>94404722Beautiful chonky boi
They should start adding modelless stuff to Spearhead.Like throwing in the Dr. Frankenstein vampire with a bunch of deadwalker zombies and writing their rules as if they're all acrwalkers
>>94404863I mean WD has gotten some rules for modelless stuff.
Hey, leaker here, just to tell you the AoS reveals coming up (at the WC Event)>The wight king>Hobgob boss>Teaser for Chorfs>more Warcry quasi-units
>>94405030Who gives a shit? Wake me up when I can use Thunderscorn in DOT again.
>in the Dawn Bringers book there was art of armoured Fyreslayers>GW still won't make armoured FyreslayersFucking why. They need new units, it would be visually distinct, you can't use the Grombrindal United Dwarfs army in comps (not that it matters) due to Legends and it would be COOL. I dunno, Forgebearers or something. Guys who work in the heart of the lodge and need the armour to protect them. Make them tanky.
>>94405084Weird they didnt follow with marked ogroids or god forbid rules without models.
>>94405098nah mate, all I can give ya is more naked midgetsIts funny we have 4 ed of this game but some armies are just fuking barebones as the day of realise. I know what we need....shorter editions!
>>94405098>>94405127>,it would be visually distinctBut Anons, your naked screaming midget retards have twelve distinct colouring schemes.
>>94405098Anon the art was of a model that already exists, it was one of the two kits you could use in the army of renown in that book, and is clearly the aesthetic they’re leaning into going forward
>>94405151I do not envy the artist who was tasked coming up with this shite.Just add something to them James, some monsters, weapon teams. Anything. The idea of fire dwarfs is so wasted here.
>>94405030I thought we were getting a soulblight dragon
>>94405175>I do not envy the artist who was tasked coming up with this shite.>standard oragne hair>dark hair>blond hair>multicolour hair>white skin with dark soot>dark skin with white soot>silver armor>gold armor>bronze armorWow i bet he spent a long time trying to figure those out
>>94405244>Jim i need you to do designs for our new fyreslayers. But youre only allowed to do use Reds oranges blacks and metallics.Not saying that it was hard. Just that it was probably a soulsucking and unenjoyable task.Also you seem very cynical, might want to log of the Internet for a while
>>94405256Idk why you're trying to paint this simple task as some soulcrushing effort. He was done in an afternoon of mixing simple ideas.There isn't even any weird stretches here like vulkites actualy made of gold or lava. Just his attempts at finding a sheme for a groupe of guys
Slaves to Darkness preview in four hours, surely.
>>94405272>previewYou mean preorder?
>>94405030>>more Warcry quasi-unitsok, but which ones, dude?
>>94405235he's probably talking about the limited edition floaty wightI don't think GW revealed him officially yet
>>94405098We haven't seen yet what Fyreslayers will be getting in 4E, all we know is that they won't be early next year. Which is actually a positive sign, it's mostly the armies that aren't getting shit that are first up for new battletomes.
>>94405030Pretty sure there's no Warcry at the next preview. And they aren't going to tease Chorfs when the next notable releases are going to be Goblins and Vampires.
>>94405372>notable releases >GoblinsSmall hero × book designed to put Dawnbringer units into a real book
>>94405415Anon, we literally have a roadmap stating that Gits are getting an armybox next year, and multiple credible leakers stating that it will be gitmob focused. Why even try to be a pretend leaker if you don't know anything?
>>94405453I'mnpt a pretand leaker, i'm just seeing the pattern with Fawnbringer releases and early 4e tomes
>>94405151>second row: blackfoot and whitefootHow creative.
>>94405521the models are mostly naked and the faction is fire-themedit's not a recipe for a great variety of functional colour schemes People should be more encouraged to play around with cold colours and tattoos in their scheme and to not be afraid of easing on the fire theme
>>94405569>fire-themedYou know, fire goes through most of spectrum from red through orange, yellow, white up to blue. They don't have to be all in shades of orange.>easing on the fire themeExactly. Ghyran Fyreslayers with mohawks dyed green, Ghur Fyreslayers with bodies painted in orange and black stripes, Ulgu Fyreslayers, sickly pale and with big bulging eyes...
I'm starting a Hedonites army. How many Blossbarb Archers is the correct number of Blissbard Archers?
>>94405372They teased EC for 40k already even though we know there are at least three Codexes coming before them.I wouldn't be surprised if they put up a Hashut symbol or somethingThat anon was totally full of shit of course, but a CD tease is totally possible.
>>94405372It can easily be put under the heading of AoS because shit like gorgers and HoH are tome units as well as Warcry stuff.
>>94405372They said "40,000, Age of Sigmar, Horus Heresy, the Old World, and more". So they could announce stuff for any other game under "and more"But the next Warcry release is basically guaranteed to be a new edition launch box, so I'm not sure it would be "and more" I feel like they'd call it out in the preview for the preview stream where they'll reveal it. But I guess we'll see.
>>94405657Still mad there are no topless female blissbarb archers, but after that sculptor talked about the Night Lords KT I guess GW is really fucking cucked.
>>94405754There are topless ones, they just have ponytail convenionyly placed on the boobs.If those models ever moved you'd see nipples
>>94405634>ghyran fyreslayers with Mohawks dyed green…You rang?
>>94405792Yeah that's what I meant, I'd like the nipples exposed... Or if you can't (why?) then have some pasties on or something.
>>94405823GW females are incredibly ugly most of the time (though my DoK have been a nice surprise). look at something like raging heroes if you want exposed nips and decent faces.
>>94406008>raging heroesI have Raging Heroes, they're fucking terrible. There is nothing wrong with GW models, but the painting. There are dozens of nice armies there where people have done specific painting. This meme has to stop.
>>94405754>after that sculptor talked about the Night Lords KTlink
>>94405823>Or if you can't (why?)What part of the world do you even live in?
Sunday preview is up>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eueoinsr/sunday-preview-chaos-comes-to-the-mortal-realms/
>>94406082As was foretold.
That's a dope burning bullgor head. Too bad there aren't any bullgors in aos any more.
>>94406094Hashut though
>>94406036UK. GW used to do nudity. Harpies, Morathi etc. They did it on the new Fiends.>>94406032https://bsky.app/profile/edgeblend.bsky.social/post/3laycguk6gk2s
>>94406094Fire Bull is Khorne coded imagery
>>94405084Marked dragon ogres were always a shit idea that never made sense in fluff.
>>94406122>GW used to do nudityThey also used to be a much lower profile company instead of international stock market darling with big push for the orveseas markets
>>94406138Right which is what I said and the post I provided proves. That they are scared of falling foul of 'decency laws' so they gotta get their numbers up so doesn't matter. Why GW can't do a 'Games Workshop Black' or 'Games Workshop Grimdark' where they have novels et al that are more adult, designed for adults. They have kid sections.
>>94406161Content of novels isn't the same as box art of models.You can find 50 shades of gray in your local book store, but its cover liekly doesn't have tits on it.Same with any BL trash's writing.Visual media is different from text media
What's there to expect for AoS?
>>94406206the theme of the preview is Humans, so I would either expect a single new mini for Cities of Sigmar and a Battletome reveal or something Death-relatedTOW will be Empire, 40k will be Kreig, no idea about HH BL reveal could be basically anything but I would guess it's the scouring series that has been rumoured for a long time now GW has to continue the success of the HH series somehow
>>94406122Says post unavailable for me, you got a screenshot?
>>94406094HASHUT HASHUT HASHUT
>>94406215The "theme" of the preview is "the rise and slaughter of humanity" which could be literally anything
>>94406314could be some khorne related then
>>94406206AOS>Hobgrot Slittaboz already leaked>Orruk endless spell>Campaign book?TOW>Empire captain on mount already leaked>Hedge wizard (what rumor are saying)>Warmachine (what rumor are saying)HH>Plastic Glave and Fellblade tank40k>Krieg army box which should include Kreig captain on horse, Heavy weapons, death riders and other Krieg stuffBlack Library>Announcing the post-Hersey books in the Scouring series. One of the anthology book was already leaked
>>94406134No it's not.
>>94406359>>Campaign book?Oh right weren't we supposed to get a path to glory supp?
>>94406206>40kKriegProbably Fire Dragons since their hand was forced on Fuegan>AoSThe Hobgrot character that leakedThe Ironjawz Spearhead boxmaybe one of the gitmob guys>Horus Heresyone resin character model>TOWThe Empire range>Black LibraryThe Siege of Terra story collection that was leakedannouncement of the Scouring series.Not a bad reveal stream, compared to other streams
>>94406206Orruk pitty hero + battletome cover reveal,Then either Grot or Vampire releases teased for next year
>>94406495Chunkieth the undsated
>>94406435>cow horns are corn>fire is cornFire cows are corn
>>94405343He's going to be expensive isn't he?
>>94406876Same as all of those comemorative models
new grave guard with the rumored zombie dragon please.
>>94406958I don't think those guys look cool enough
Anyone got a scan of the new Skaven battletome?
>>94407005nopwe in wait still
We lost Noah...
>>94407242Who
>>94407242Godeater's Son was too good, I guess.
>>94407267Guy who wrote Godeater's Son.
>>94406847He’s worshipped as a flaming brass bull by I think some Excelsis cults? The brass bull beastlord from the old world was also pretty clearly khorne blessed, which I guess that’s a reference to
>>94407270Also wrote that really good Yndrasta book
>>94406847cow horns aren't Khorne, cow horns are Hashut
>>94407553or Slaanesh
>>94407564or Beasts of Chaos (RIP)
>>94407576It still stings.
>>94405030>ChorfsHow much dakka are they going to have?
>>94407910Less than kharadron
>>94406958Not in the boxes releasing next week... >mfw I'll never get them.
>>94407910Their dudes so far have shrapnel granades and greek fire throwers
>>94406134you sure about that?
>>94408189His absence in 40kek allowed Khorne to steal it thoughever. Hashut in general is just an aspecy of Khorne when it comes to traits
>impulsebought stormstrike palladors before reading their rulesi am the biggest retard
>>94406134>>94408189>>94408207The similarities between Hashut and Khorne imagery is something that's mentioned in (Fantasy) fluff but it's left intentionally vague
I kinda wanna get that ironjaw battleforce. Any greenbros know if it's good or no?
>>94408671It's solid. Arboyz you want, Ragerz are good. Big pig is probably the weakest link but it's an awesome model
>>94408671It's a good chunk of the Ironjawz range, if it's not good then Ironjawz are in real trouble.But either way, Orruks are getting a new Battletome in a few months, so anything that's not good now could be good then, and vice versa.
>>94406137You are wrong and also retarded
>>94402563>darkoath army set released with cool sub faction primer, at premium price>the entire sub faction rolled into STD main battle tome 6 months laterWhy do we keep letting GMoney get away with this
>>94409762Nigga they were literally always part of StD. Just cause you're stupid and missed obvious information doesn't mean you got scammed.
>>94409771>sub faction>"waah you didn't read the armies name and promotional material and obvious marketing layout, waah waaah"Listen cunt, maybe you need to read. I called it a sub-faction in my post. And that's not the problem of them being in STD. I'm saying that just waiting 6 months for those rules would be fine if they said they were going to be in the next book. Instead by releasing it like this it implies it would be a sub faction, ala Harlequins. Instead now it just feels like some overly expensive early access cash grab
>>94409807Being released as standalone box doesn't imply being a subfaction.FEC box released 3 month earlier and nobody assumed that.Only difference is FEC released with a tome, so it didn't get a booklet like Darkoath or Orruks
>pre-order box 30 minutes after they went live at an LGS that mails and has an online retail front>forgot to input the last comfirmation PIN on my banking transfer app to send the money>check my account balance 2 days later>Suprisingly higher than I thought>I didn't send the money fuck>send the money but idk if I missed the bank transfer deadlineI mostly wanted the force for the rotmire creed and harbinger but if I didn't reserve then I guess I'll just get a 3d printer with that money.
>>94409762what are you talking about? Are you upset they didn't get a supplement with the StD book release? their entire identity is being chaff looking to make a name for themselves in battle to rise in the chaos ranks>>94409807>cash grabeverything GW does is a shameless cashgrab. it's just a given
>>94408213By the time you finishe making them they'll get FAQed
>>94409762I would bet they're going to get army of renown rules in the new battletome, which is all they ever had anyway
So when is the next reveal thing?
>>94410801after this Friday?next year probably in January or February
army for a retard stuck eternally in retail?
>>94410812Whatever you think looks cool? You'll only know what's to your tastes after having understood the game. Start small, you don't have to play tournament prep games
>>94410801This Friday, and then probably a couple silhouetted models shown off on Christmas like they did last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLIgS55RRGg
why is tzeentch's symbol a duck now?
The bundled old warbands cost 80 eurobux a box
>>94410880Post linkhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/n1672vmf/raise-corrupt-banners-and-transform-heroes-into-daemon-princes-in-battletome-slaves-to-darkness/
please give me new and freakish tzeentch models...
>>94410880god of change. It used to be a flame, but it changed to a duck. Try to keep up.
>>94410881>80 for 4 warbands>35 for 1 warbandoutrageous
>>94410885Oh cool, We will still get heroes promoting to princes liveI only owned Prince models specifically for when that happens
Wait, does this mean that Undivided Daemon Princes just stopped existing in AoS again?
>>94410926looks like it
>>94410926I swear there must be some kind of spiteful underground game of ping pong on the matter at GW
>>94410926I suppose there's a remote chance that Undivided would be baked into the warscroll as a baseline, but I wouldn't put my money on that.
>>94410950ADB threatening to mail his cum to whomever allows undivided princes
>>94410950I doubt it’s spite and more like no one can be bothered to give a fuck about what it means for Belakor or GW really just don’t like undivided being associated with anything but an amorphous demon less blob. Like undivided is for babies unless your Archaon type shit
>>94410965Remember the Ruinstorm demons? It’s so weird because they especially had the chance to make undivided demons a thing during the heresy
>>94410969 yeah I guess there is a chance they come back in plastic for HH but i wouldn't bet on it
>>94410955As is, the DP can be Undivided so that it can hand out buffs to Undivided unitsBy the text of these pledges, it doesn't seem to actually overwrite the Mark of Undivided, you'd just have an Undivided hero who also in this moment has decided to lean towards one of the gods
>>94410926Damn! 3 dice for all my charges! That’s not too bad considering knights only folly is speed.
>>94410926Belakor killed them all off-screen to remain the only one
>>94410880Lmao
>>94411028He's going to be so mad when Malerion gets shadow demons and he doesn't
As long as Vashtor and Belakor exist you’ll never get a real undivided
>>94411035He will say they are demons in name only And he will be right, they are Ulgu elementals
>>94411037Undivided has atleast three different armies. Every chaos god gets one. We need to step back and look at the real issue here
Does GW have an System for their Apps that notices if you log the same account into several devices? Thinking about making a shared account for our gaming club where we can stuff in the codes, so everyone has access.
>Gaunt Summoners, the Mutalith Vortex Beast, and the Slaughterbrute already have the relevant Pledge to Chaos Keywords, while a Daemon Prince also gets to pick a pledge at army creation.* 'gets to' or do they mean 'has to' is the real question then>If the target has a Pledge to Chaos keyword, the Daemon Prince has the same keyword. Otherwise, pick 1 Pledge to Chaos keyword for the Daemon Prince to have for the rest of the battle.This implies there will be Slav heroes who do not have a pledge, which sounds like Undivided doesn't count as a pledgePledge to Chaos in general sounds much gayer than Mark of Chaos, makes me think of frathouse shit
>>94411049>spoilerisn't that what the Crowmen from Cathay in Total War are?
>>94411069Those are actual demons cause they're chinese.
>>94410812>retard>retailso assuming you want something easy to play and cheap?maggotkin, gloomspite trogg heavy, ironjawz, kruleboyz (not easy to play but VERY VERY cheap thanks to dominion), stormcast (some of the more alpha units are expensive but you can get the core troops and elite infantry for basically nothing thanks to dominion and skaventide), deepkin cavalry list, seraphon saurus/krox/cavalry, skaven (skaventide plus some cheapish 400pt heroes fills up a list quick, not easy to play though). ogres (but beware their models are very old and potentially up for a squatting or refresh), slaves to darkness warriors/knights/chosen/varanguard, maggotkin mortals, fyreslayers, bonereapersavoid slaanesh, tzeentch, lumineth, daughters of khaine, sylvaneth, kharadron, non trogg gloomspite, cities of sigmar, soulblight, nighthaunt, flesh eaters. all either expensive, complicated, require a lot of game knowledge/bookkeeping, or all of the aboveand of course ignore ALLLLLL of that if a particular aesthetic speaks to you. the game is not so complicated or expensive (an army of aos is like half the cost of a 40k army) that a beginner cant learn a complicated or difficult army, and is it really worth going for a cheaper army if you dont like the models?
>>94402736Why would you want that? Just use Wahapedia
>>94404704>make the game extremely tedious to play>make army building completely unfun with the least freedom yet>people only play the meme tutorial mode with no army buildingWho could've thought
>>94411069I don't care cause it's not canon anyway
>>94411169Spearhead isn't plagued with "Whoops, all reinforced" meta
>Gaunt Summoners, the Mutalith Vortex Beast, and the Slaughterbrute already have the relevant Pledge to Chaos Keywords, while a Daemon Prince also gets to pick a pledge at army creation.Wh-what about my Soul Grinders
>>94411259>OH NOOOOOOOO NOT A UNIT OF 20 INFANTRY4e is so fucking boring, give me back my bricks of 40 chainrasp
>>94410885Lmao StD fucking smashed with a nerf bat.This is so much worse than the old ability.No more turn one 'this block of 6 varanguard will now roll for more buffs.'
>>94410885>kino roll table replaced with....thisHas 4e done ANYTHING right?
>>94411299>5+ saveFucking why?There's no reason these over 60 reapers or harridans.
>>94411310Ask the shareholders
>>94411348Cheap as hell both $$$ and points wise, absorb buffs well without being a priority target for debuffs and shooting. Tend to preform pretty well back in 2e and sometimes even 3e. They've nerfed Chainrasps every single edition since 2e though, not sure why they want NH players to only spam Named Characters (fag units), Bladegheists and Hexwraiths. Every other unit just gets nerfed over and over while those units remain the exact same
Rest in piss.
>>944114144e really is the "fuck you" edition
>>94411414>the warshrine wait, what? why? the old world wasn't claiming that one, it's not even stylistically unfit for darkoath or the newer slaves to darkness
>>94411414>Soul Grinder
>>94411450yeah they were
>>94411263>the Mutalith Vortex Beast, and the Slaughterbrute already have the relevant Pledge to Chaos Keywordswhen did gw forget that mutalith and slaughterbrutes are NOT aligned to one god or another?
>>94411518They are in AoS and have been for ages.40k too.
>>94411501what part of that doesn't fit with slaves to darkness now?
>>94411522fuck me I'm out of the loophave a jabber
>>94411450>the old world wasn't claiming that onemaybe it will by the end of the edition
>>94411414AIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>94411525Being a WHFB kit in a range that's otherwise AoS
>>94411414Lowkey surprised the chariot lived, honestly. Maybe only because it's in the old spearhead and they want every army to have two viable spearhead builds.
>>94411569it's in TOW isn't it?
Is it just me or are more things being squatted than released the last few years. It's all just meme little underworlds and warcry warbands which are basically just Basic Battleline + small ability, and those get squatted all the same
>>94411562are the chaos chariots, chaos spawns, mutalith/slaughterbrute leaving the range too?
>>94411414>variety of cultists culled in favor of generic barbarians with shit sculpts>no manticores>no warshrine>no coalitions>no undivided>no rewards tableWhat is even the appeal of StD at this point?
>>94411577They literally mentioned mutaliths and slaughterbrutes in the same breath as a new mechanic so they're in.And also >>94411414
>>94411571the chariots? yes, both the normal one and the gorebeast one, rules and promotional pictures hell, they're even included in the big army boxset for chaos in the old world
>>94411590What's the appeal of AoS at this point? It's more stripped down and competitive-autism focused than 40k at this point
>>94411577Yeah eventually
>>94411593The point of his post was to point out that your argument is flawed because there are models which fall under your criteria without being removed.
>>94411590>What is even the appeal of StD at this point?You vill buy ze darkoaths, or else
>>94411574In terms of the overall game, more new things are being released for sure. STD in particular is almost 100% new models at this point. That said the squatting over the last few years has been substantial, not just in AoS but across all of GW's game lines. Even Middle Earth just had like 100 profiles/models nuked for the new edition. GW is really not wanting to bother keeping the charade of long term support going for old shit that doesn't sell, the new underworlds edition is a good example of this, you can technically "play" your old warbands but it's a joke, just generic GA template rules that no one is actually going to bother with.
Chuardin please save this shit edition
>flesh eater courts>but instead of thinking they're bretonnians, they think they're space marines fighting xenos in 40k
Is it just me or is 4th edition giving off a very big "We want you to play the army as we intended, stop making weird lists and using niche units and just fucking make it look like the promotional pictures" vibe
>>94411608>black female special character as faction leader>no troops in full armours>no big artillery pieces>just spiky fyreslayers and winged bulls
>>94411615Those are just flesh eaters from Chamon
>>94411626I don't give a fuck about special characters and I'm not a kneejerk culture warrior anyway
>>94411625I don’t want to entirely subscribe to that, but the shitty ass regiment system being so needlessly restrictive, especially for small armies, makes it feel a little bit that way.
>>94411625Pretty much, every army has one forced play style, every unit that doesn't support that play style got gutted. It's harder than ever to throw in a fun foot hero or unit with how limited the regiments system is. Less spells, artifacts and command traits too, and the ones we have are so extremely basic you can't make a cool off-meta list with them.It's pretty clear why they did this, if every army has no cool internal balance and plays exactly the same then players looking for a new experience will buy a new army.
>>94411625GW very much wishes it could convince the playerbase into wanting fixed liststhe positive reception of spearhead is a step in that direction for them
>>94411662They want that Star Wars: Shatterpoint / Marvel Crises Protocol audience it would seem
>>94411615All of 40k is just a bunch of ghoul servants running around the castle while king's dead corpse rotts away in the grand hal
>>94411414SOUL GRINGER IS GONE!!!https://youtu.be/LDU_Txk06tM?si=bep0q1GR4j2vbPS-
>>94411414Okay I guess my Soul Grinders are Defilers for 40k now fuck me
>>94411615>>94411690the entire collection of novels about the horus heresy from black library is being written by a mad ghoul for the king's library, but nobody in aos knows how to read english
>>94411700This is a pro-soul-grinder websiteYou can celebrate missing the point of chaos being beyond time and space elsewhere
>>94411731Future historians will mark the decline of AoS, and GW as a while, from the date they LEGEND'D the Soul Grinder.Rest in Power King.
>>94411414Why u blur out names
>>94411731it's all or nothing, it was either integrating all the possible fluffy and aesthetically cross-compatible units or none of themand I never saw anyone arguing in favour of demon primarchs or the lord of skulls
>>94411731>This is a pro-soul-grinder websiteI think you took a wrong turn. Tumbler is that way -->
>>94411751is tumblr even still a thing?
>>94411750>and I never saw anyone arguing in favour of demon primarchs or the lord of skullsI have actually repeatedly argued that the Lord of Skulls would fit in BoK.
>>94411750They should add daemon primarchs to AoS but have them be hilariously weak.
>>94411751Oh yeah, because when I think "Tumblr", I think... the Soul Grinder?
>>94411731This, soul-grinder was the last bastion of fun jank in AoS. With it's death we have entered the official no-fun allowed era
>>94411414Never been any more glad that I hopped onto the Trench Crusade kickstarter. I give GW an edition, two tops, before they insist on fixed lists for matched play. The Warshrine isn't even in fucking TOW, It's the crab boiling meme.>They weren't in a Start Collecting, it's okay they got squatted>They weren't in a Grand Alliance tome, it's okay they got squatted>They weren't in a Battletome, it's okay they got squatted>They weren't in a recent Battletome, it's okay they got squatted>They're in TOW, it's okay they got squatted>They existed, therefore it's okay if it gets squatted
Kill Soul Grinders. Behead Soul Grinders. Roundhouse kick a Soul Grinder into the concrete. Slam dunk a Soul Grinder baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy mecha demons. Defecate in a Soul Grinders food. Launch Soul Grinders into the sun. Stir fry Soul Grinders in a wok. Toss Soul Grinders into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Soul Grinders gas tank. Judo throw Soul Grinders into a wood chipper. Twist Soul Grinders heads off. Report Soul Grinders to the IRS. Karate chop Soul Grinders in half. Curb stomp pregnant Soul Grinders. Trap Soul Grinders in quicksand. Crush Soul Grinders in the trash compactor. Liquefy Soul Grinders in a vat of acid. Eat Soul Grinders. Dissect Soul Grinders. Exterminate Soul Grinders in the gas chamber. Stomp Soul Grinder skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Soul Grinders in the oven. Lobotomize Soul Grinders. Mandatory abortions for Soul Grinders. Grind Soul Grinder fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Soul Grinders in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Soul Grinders with a ray gun. Kick old Soul Grinders down the stairs. Feed Soul Grinders to alligators. Slice Soul Grinders with a katana.
>>94411780Skar’torath the Monarch of Screams help usSkar’torath the Monarch of Screams please save us
>>94411778Trench Crusade is just another Turnip28 meme wave, I just play One Page Rules at this point. Don't have time for all this meta chasing nonsense
>>94411793>meme wavenot sure about that, they have an actual model range unlike the normie-inaccessible turnip/inq28
>>94411803So did many other failed GW competitors. I'm sure it will reach a nice stable point with an edition or two, but finding longevity in a non-historical wargame is incredibly difficult. I wish you best of luck though, hope you and your group have fun with it and I'm just being overly cynical
>>94411793Congrats, enjoy seeing units squatted from your army with rhyme, reason, or warning. Enjoy the reduction of lists to the absolute barebones with 0 flexibility as we've seen in 4 editions happen. Enjoy seeing entire armies vanish, while you scream that you "knew it all along suckers!" Enjoy raging on this very forum when eventually the wheel turns to where GW shits in your army and you helplessly rage about it.What a fun game.
>>94411808Did you make it past the first comma in my post?
>>94411414Soul grinder and manticore I can understand, but the warshrine is a shock, thats a staple unit for multiple editions and not an ancient kit either.More old wold "can't sell a kit in 2 games" shenanigans?
>>94411848The warshrine isn't in TOW; that's what makes it so shocking.
>>94411852The TOW people might have pulled some skullduggery to steal it back.
>>94411852I think we really are going to have to pull anbage of sigmar 0.5 edition again as a community and TOs are going to have to start ruling all these "legends" units legal for event play. This shits getting out of hand, whole armies squatted for no reason, models left and right out of ranges sent to legends, hell stormcast are losing a dozen kits that aren't even a decade old, it's out of control. The age of sigmar community overruled tames workshop once before, we may need to do so again for the sake of our fellow players getting the shaft non stop
>>94411875Yeah it's pretty stupid to have fully functional and compatible rules and not be "allowed" to use them just because James says so
>>94411806This is like the nicest fuck you I have read on this site.And I get it. And I wish I had a group of players near me that would like to try small skirmish games like that, where we each invest like $120 into our warbands and maybe another 100 a piece into terrain to us, and we have fun with it for a few months.Instead I live where it's AoS, 40k, or basically nothing.
>>94411875Stormies can easily keep using all their models though, since who can tell the difference between one gold boy with some cloth flapping about and another
>>94411870but the tow people didn't want it backespecially not the 8th ed version
>>94411848>not an ancient kitIt's not ancient, but it's almost twelve years old. It's been a little while.
>>94406082I'm pogging out
I should definitely not buy an arachnarok right now right
>>94411848i think the modus operandi with age of sigmar is that if its an old world model it will be replaced or removed
>>94412006I wouldn't buy spiderfang, no. Also probably hold off on ogres
>>94412006do you want the model or do you want the rules?
>>94412009Where does that line stop though? Chaos warriors? Night goblins? Clanrats? Ironguts? Daemons?There seems to be no way of knowing who's going to get the axe, GW isn't communicating it, and frankly I don't think the aos team is steering the truck on this road. I think specialist games has someone high up with Carte blanche to take whatever they want with basically no warning and because of dumb internal reasons they can't just sell a kit for 2 games at once
>>94412009end times models are the exceptionright?
>>94412022I want to buy models and then use them and not be left holding the bag within a year
>>94412033I'm sorry, unless you're open to proxying I can't help you with that
>>94406847Can you point out a Khorne model that has any cow features? Horns are a general demon thing
>>94412097
>>94412097Juggernauts
>>94410885I dont get it, 4ed seem to be ed of we made cool tomes in 3rd.....lets fuck it all up this time. Dose any wargame peak at 3rd ed?Nurgle banner sounds cool.
>>94412026>Chaos warriors?replaced> Clanrats? replaced>Night goblins?will eventually be replaced>Ironguts?will probably be replaced this edition>Daemons?Being updated over time, like slaanesh fiends
Under what circumstances would Warstomper find himself working for Tzeentch?
>>94412157Blightkings, Luminark, Juggernauts, Plague Catapult. It makes no sense and you have to admit it.
>>94412171They pay himThey brainwash himThey trick himThey find a common foe
>>94412171Are you really that unimaginative?
I wonder if Sigmar will ever hit a comfortable point where squatting stops for a few editions. Until then I don't think we will ever get super invested hobbyfags again
>>94412218I can easily imagine Warstomper getting involved with Khorne: Mega-Gargant saw a random fight and without second (or even first) thought joined a fray and after the battle ended found himself surrounded by cheering warriors. But why would he get himself involved with weak, squishy, puny, nerdy faction?
>>94412196Alright. What would TZEENTCH do to get a warstomper working for him?
>>94412341Put a big thorn in his toe and blame the goblin tribe in the nearby forest
>>94412341Put a little daemon mite in his ear that keeps yapping and making him angry
>>94412338Megas think everything smaller than themselves as 'wealth squishy, puny' Khorne included. Also why couldn't a bunch fo Tzneetch chaos warriors (who are still big armored killers) not cheer for a Mega, or be directed to do so by their lord to manipulate the Mega?
>>94412289i was no shit just putting together a list for the weekend specifically for std. chaos warriors have always been my favorite and seeing them in aos made me want to get into the game mode. but seeing that this new edition not only squatted an entire race but multiple std units has put me off of it completely. genuinely this "no models in 2 games" rule has to be the single dumbest thing and actively losing them money.
>>94412383Now I imagine Tzaangor Shaman flying to One-eyed Grunnock and whispering to his ear: "If I paint this symbol around your empty eyesocket then your headache may cease".
>>94412171They work for money, Anon.All Tzeentch has to do is pay them
>>94412430>>94412341
>>94412341I assume average Gargant will fall for entry level illusions
>>94412453>Tzeentch doing something straightforwardSacrilege.
>>94412497All the shemes will be spent on getting the money
>>94412171the warstomper is a decoy, it's actually a cultist shapeshifted by a summoner
>>94406480>>94406359>>94406495Holy shit that's some low expectations.
>>94411414Fuck you GW. 4ed is dead game. AOS have only 3 ed, just as 40k.
>>94412597It’s always best to set astronomically low expectations for reveals. GW has an unparalleled skill to fly under subterranean expectations.
>>94412527>All the shemes will be spent on getting the moneyAnd then they'll build a mech and start searching for the Dokuro Stone.
>>94411605Sadly.
>>94412597We more or less know the next few releases and they're all months away. So Expecting GW to play their whole hand now isn't the smartest
>>94412625The last time I remember anybody being excited about sigmar reveals was 2e when we were getting suprise faction reveals every few months.
>>944129352e feels like the last time there was any sort of passion put into the game ngl
>>94412941Still chasing the high we had when BR:Morathi dropped.
>>94412969Har Kuron isn't even playable anymore and the fluff has basically retconned it
>>94412969That really does feel like the last hoorah before they took AoS in the complete wrong direction, just a shame it was when no-one could fuckin play warhammer.
>>94413056It has been retconned?
>>94410903Not just that, but that's $160 with exchange, $200 with Australia tax. Fuck me
>>94411626Can't wait for daemonsmiths that aren't actually wizards and can't buff war machines
>>94411035I actually had a dream about Malekith and the Umbraneth. I can't remember exactly what was happening but I think it was the new CoS book being shown to me by a GW employee and they still hadn't changed Delves so I told him "I guess you still don't know what you're doing with Malekith's faction yet"
>>94411055It's GW, they're probably not that advanced. But that's a good idea.The only issue is only 1 list still unless you have WH+
>>94405569each dwarf take in AOS turned out fucking horrible. Like who the fuck thought this was a good idea.
>>94413317>Like who the fuck thought this was a good idea.me
>>94413317I'm not even big on dwarfs in any setting ever but this looks dope
>>94413317>best dwarfs in wargaming>bad idea
>>94413334>>94413348>>94413351horrible taste. Flying midgets are always bad.
>>94413317I've never seen anyone articulate why these are bad without just gesturing at them and hoping that people agree already (i.e. "just look at them!")
>>94413358Not if they're flung by a giant or something
>>94413362Specifically the big gas balloons ruin any hope of a silhouette. Dwarves are short and stock. What the backpack on this guy does is fill space behind his head and make him more squarish in profile. What those pieces of shit do is add length, making them into giant tubes, which is worsened by having them be attached to the armour. Theirs a clear delineated mark between horse/rider or acolyte/disk which works because it's 2 profiles.This is one weirdly shaped un-dwarfy profile that looks like someone took a shit on aerodynamics.
>>94413317kharadron ships and ball guys are great the problem with kharadrons is that they ALL have face-masks instead of healthy mixture of diving helmets, normal helmets, open faces AND facemasks
>>94413317kharadron are awesome apart from their gameplay. the models are great
>>94413410>open facesthere's a reason for that. aethergold will melt your fucking skin off. you need to be in a protective suit to harvest it, which is generally what kharadron are out there doing
>>94413362It's like they tried to recreate tinman but made it extremely garish and the ones with the mini blimps just look so unwieldly like a baby held up by their onesie.
>>94413430rule of cool comes first, fluff can be justified in a thousand ways
>>94411741Yes.
>>94413399Thank you for actually giving an argument
>>94413459this isnt a "get your hands dirty" guy though, so its fine for him. he'll presumably be in the ships office below deck, or in the back lines far away from the action dictating the code over loud speaker. arkanauts and riggers are the ones having to actually secure the aethergold, while endrimasters are working on the aetherboilers and maintaining parts of the ship which could spew causitic chemicals, and the khemists have to firsthand evaluate the quality of the aethergold seams and aid in refinement. presumably the admiral could potentially not have to be close to the seam, though they may opt to if they prefer to take a lead from the front approach, and grundstok are the enforcers so it makes sense for them to be armored head to toe even if they arent directly working with aethergold. all of that said though, if you want some dwarf heads that will work, just talk to a votann player. hearthkyn kits come with like 30 heads per 10 models, so they'll have extras, and they are ball socket head bits so no conversion or cutting necessary
Are DoT any funIs there anything I should avoid in terms of models
>>94413484>this isnt a "get your hands dirty" guy though, so its fine for himthe other kharadrons aren't necessarily getting their hands dirty harvesting aether gold during the gamethe model might not wear a helmet but still fluffwise don one when needed
As a new player list building feels awkward. There's so many hero units that I feel like I just can't play? Feels super limited, unless I'm misunderstanding how regiments work
>>94413623No, you're right. Regiments are a totally fucked mechanic. Fucks over both hero models and non-hero models.
>>94413497DoT are about infinite chicken exploit and spamming endless spells (specifically the Krondspuyre or w/e it is called).
>>94413098Latest novel frees the captured Stormcast and affirms Morathi did no wrong
>>94413623It's retarded because so many factions don't actually have units. They have one, maybe two, maybe three. That's terrible. Then they have twice as many heroes as units, so you can never actually use all your heroes... Regiments was to stop people doing shit like that LRL comp player where he took like six heroes and three units of battleline just to be legal.
>>94412969Gods the game was kino back then
>>94413749What's the downside now of just adding heroes through more regiments with 0 non-hero units?
>>94413317>Like who the fuck thought this was a good idea.John Blanche himself
>>94413968Putting in random heroes as auxiliary choice or w/e the term is means you're limiting what rules apply to them.
>>94413779>battalions modifying warscrolls make a comeback >hero keyword given to regular units >warscrolls for kitbashes and variant warscrolls in WD >allegiances mixing things up with coalition rules or basic composition (Lethis Defenders or CoS)>rounded out battletomes for every army finally and supplemented more in WD/BR/misc campaign books 2e was definitely going places, shame they consistently prunned realm artefacts to chase competitive players though
>>94414035>to chase competitive players thoughThis is what I hate the most. Fucking STOP IT. If you're going to chase competitive players then give us FLUFFY things for people who just want a bit of fun.
>>94414035I think what’s pissed me off the most is the removal of choice under the pretense that limited choices would be more competitive between eachother for your attention only to still have 1 clearly good choice and 2 dogshit ones. If they continue this trend of “streamlining” I don’t know what else they could prune before turning the game into a glorified coin toss. I want them to go crunchier for once. Crunchier, but convenient is what would aim for. Shame I’m probably shit at writing rules because I’d love to write an alternate ruleset with that mindset.
What?
>>94414056The reason they removed options is because by and large there was always a top option and nobody picked the rest. For example, the Oldblood on Carnosaur, one of the weapon options was just flat out worse than others, like you'd think there'd be a trade off.. another rend, another damage, another attack or more range. Nope, it just flat out did not wound or hit as easily I forget. Why would anybody take it? So they crushed that all down into 'Celestial Weapon' or w/e the name is now. You can put whatever weapon you want on the guy, it doesn't change how it works.On the flip side, having options is always better, but if 95% of people just pick the statistical best one because you do 0.001% more wounds on average with it, then they'll pick that. However the channelling towards comp play is a deteriment to 90% of the player base who just want to play matched play but not in comp settings.I am also annoyed that GW produced all these models in the past and did rules and now doesn't update them to 4th. The guy who bought Vorgarath (spelling) is now fucking screwed. The guy who had a mournghul is fucking screwed. Etc.
>>94414100Reposition your demons while in combat. An extra fancy pile in. Can probably snag control pretty well. My question here would be though if i can set them up so they tag additional units they didn´t before
>>94406949So 8-9 usd from every recaster?
>>94414175>supporting commies and commies adjacentshan't.
>>94414124>The reason they removed options is because by and large there was always a top option and nobody picked the rest.Don’t get me wrong, I fully understand that. I’m more mad at the fact that GW has trimmed away so much and still can’t manage to make the limited options a choice between “oh, this is good” and “why would I ever want this?”.This might be my old 40k brain speaking, but I feel like adding points costs back to options would possibly alleviate the funneling of people into one clearly superior option. I remember having to tinker around with my lists that were a few points over because I wanted X relic or Y wargear piece. You could introduce something like that by making artefacts, heroic traits, and maybe even battle traits cost anywhere from 10-50 points and it wouldn’t add a crippling level of complexity to listbuilding for the modern wargamer.
>>94414326People don't want that because majority of people hate facing giga heroes. It's why it's in TOW but not here. For example, in TOW, you can make a Saurus Oldblood that is 3+/5++ with -2 to hit. Or a Black Orc Warboss with like 3+/5++/5+++. Or a Bret Duke with +2D3 extra attacks. You get silly stuff. I mean GW seems to clearly want to make them different. I am mad there is just less options in general. Give me more artefacts. GW also nerfed funny things. In 2e, Seraphon could take an artefact that made a SKINK unit FLY. It could be taken by a Stegadon unit, so that could fly. It lead me to ask Lewd Anon to draw pic related for me. But they fixed that in 3e and said 'has to be on foot' or some shit.
>>94413982Wait am I misunderstanding this? Can't I just add extra heroes by adding another regiment that has 0 non-hero units? Isn't the only downside that if you have more regiments you don't decide who goes first?
>>94414124Yep, especially with a system overhaul. You can argue about the playability of legends but they had the same rules any other army did through warscrolls and despite persisting for a decade they're gone now as 4e reworks the basis for warscrolls
>>94414391No you're not. But yeah, you're putting more drops down.
>>94414429Yeah I don't understand it. They updated Legends stuff but not FW stuff that has been legends for awhile. My friend has a legit FW bought Vorgarath and he just flat out can't use it. Yeah it was 1,200pts or something daft to play, but still, a fun model for a meme game.Why they can't update the old FW stuff I don't know. It doesn't cost them much and it allows people to use (very) expensive models.Another thing I am annoyed at - models equipment not being intuitative to what they do. For example, in 1e, 2e and 3e... If you have Liberators with shields, you knew, instinctively, they were going to be tougher than Liberators with two hammers. It was very clear. You traded damage for damage resistance. There were odd things, like Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur having 4+ save and a Scar-Vet on Carnosaur having 4+ save despite having a shield. But in 4e? It's like 'lol who cares'. Liberators have two hammers, but have 3+ save. If you put a shield on them, they're still 3+ and they still have two attacks each. What the FUCK is this? Who thought this was a good idea? Why is it even an option then? Then new model updates like Stormvermin used to have shields as options in 1e and 2e, but lost the option to take Clanshields in 3e and now the models don't even come with them. I guess nobody bothered to take them?
So what models are you currently working on anons?
Is there any good AOS books? I havent really gotten into the lore so far and was looking for a nice jumping in point
>>94414804I enjoyed the Grombrindal ones. Spear of Shadow. Clan Pestilins. The issue is a lot of the good ones are from 1e so all the lore has changed so doesn't really make sense in context. I've not read any recent ones, none have really appealed. Recent ones were the Grombrindal ones.
>>94414818Thanks I'll try those
>>94414574Working on skeltals rn. Have 10 from cursed city and am building 3 more out of the previous gen sprue to fill out the sepulchral guard to 10 models. Probably going to convert a bunch crawling out of graves with whatever bits I've got left over
>>94414574Crypt horrors, first ever freehand banner.
>>94414574a tree guy
>>94414574Started working on my Bladelords last night and within 30 mins of it, my friend notified our group she was entering the hospice stage of her cancer treatment. So that kind of took the wind out of my sails for the night. I managed to type up a message to her, so I'm glad I could at least get my thoughts to her. Ironically enough, we were notified that her CAR-T therapy failed within the half hour of when I started building the same Bladelords kit a few weeks ago.I've only got a coat of silver on them right now, so it's not worth a picture.>>94415065I'm loving the color saturation on this guy.
>>94411414>Introduces model scale creep in fantasy, that becomes absurd in AoS>Stays useless for four editions>Leaves to be absolutely useless in 40kR.I.P. you derpy bastard
>>94415148>>Introduces model scale creep in fantasyno, it didn't
>>94411590It never had much appeal. It's for braindead retards who want heavily armored knuckledraggers who move forward and win or lose by round 2. Oh and then Belakor is kind of cool looking.
>>94414574Mortis. For the first time I've actually been wanting an airbrush.Also, it's very interesting how the horses are actually covered in soft spots of fluorescent green but none of it show on camera. It's like invisible ink or something.
>>94411590GW clearing stuff out to replace with new stuff is hardly shocking. Christ I would hate 4chan to exist in the 90's where you just had shit flat out removed, no warning, no legends, nothing. Oh you have Kruellegh the Vile model? Oh sorry lol she gone senpai.
>>94415253oh no, a small special character model disappeared!it's definitely the same as 3 long-standing big plastic kits disappearing
>>94415280I gave an example. Plenty of kits have just left. If you've not bought those kits in the last decade plus, that's your fault. I could understand being pissed Sacrosanct chamber or Blacktalon being replaced within 5 years, but not something on the march to two decades old, anon. Again, GW will replace it with something. You literally have lost nothing if you already have the kit as it goes into Legends so unless you're playing GW Events you're fine to use it.>b-b-butAgain, nearing two decades old. It's on you if you don't have the models. People like you would want the Phoenix Lords to hit fucking 30 and be like>nooooo don't update themmmmmmmm old long standing models nooooooooo!
>>94415253Okay man so where's the new monster-mounted chaos lord and sorcerer, buffing centerpiece with god-marked abilities, and really big war machine to replace them
>>94415303>Again, GW will replace it with something.lol yeah I'm sure there's a new soul grinder right around the corner
>>94415065Looks good mechanicanon
>>94415309Already got the Krakadrak. You're just going to have to wait, sorry. You gonna screech that GW hasn't given Eldar jump pack mounted troops since they purged Barraoth and Swooping Hawks? Shit happens. Things get removed. Seraphon players lost razordons.>>94415320You can buy the Soul Grinder right now anon. It's still for sale. You can still use it. Dunno what the issue is.
>>94414574Forgot my ownWorking through skaventide. I think I need to trim off of the push-fit pins more. Going to go back and fill these gaps with milliput later. There were a few pretty bad seams on the lord vigilant
>>94411590Wait did they get rid of warshrines? Aren't those not even usable in old world?
>>94415303>(lesser and less often) squattings happened, that makes this ok!>it's your fault anyway for not buying it more! (even if it's this isn't tied to sales)>gw is replacing it anyway (it isn't), just buy the newer different product goy!>just use the third class rules that will be outdated in 3 months! (IF they get them)at this point this is no longer bootlicking, you're straight up deepthroating those boots
Chaos sorcerer
>>94413738Oh cool, that novel's out? Spoil me anyway.
Is this a good box for starting DoT
>>94415829no
>>94413738>affirms Morathi did no wrongBased
>>94414391You can.But for competitive lists, the general opinion is its better to have as few drops as possible, since whoever deployed his whole army first gets to decide who has the first turn.
That red gobbo shit feels more forced every year.
>>94404226Why do they all look like this?
>>94416869it feels like they removed the one thing that actually made the red gobbo unique in the first place, the commie shit
Is it actually possible to play Seraphon if I just want dinos and no magic shit? Bonus points if I can get away without just a hoarde of Aggradons. I haven't played anything beyond Spearhead yet but my impression is that if you don't have some kind of wizard you are basically fucked.
>>94416869Repeating the same joke over and over gets stale.Same with cosplay Grombrindals
>>9441457420 gutrippaz, some of them will be converted knto monstakillaz since I hate their (mk) design but like their lore and role on the battlefield
Where could I find the last edition Cities of Sigmar battletome pdf?
>>94417353https://files.catbox.moe/10o161.pdf
What is /aosg/ opinion on the vengorian lord now that it's a bit older.I originally didn't like it but now I find it rather charming it it's something unique that didn't exist in fantasy and it fits more in a monster mash list than the normal vampires.I do have to admit that it looks like something ripped from a castlevania game.
>>94417452I like them, but wish Avengorii got more types of mutant vampires for their monstrous theam
>>94417452it's unnecessarily bigit's an inferior design compared to a vampire riding an abyssal monsterthe background is redundant with not even a portion of the ghoul's charm the special character in particular is so poor at reflecting her origins it's laughable otherwise it's an innocuous alternative build of a vampire on a monster
>>94417479it wouldn't be a problem if they could field some ghoul units
>>94417524Abhorants aren't mutated in any meaningful way, they're just bat dudes
>>94417056The magic shit has been all but removed. They completely reworked seraphon. The entire army now revolves around saurus, kroxigor, aggradons, and skink cavalry.Kroak and slaan are still good, but optional, they no longer have summoning points, extended spell ranges, and their spell lores leave a lot to be desired. The army now plays fair, regular warhammer
there's some cool artworks in the stormie booktoo bad the scan is shit and only in spanish
>>94411414Its so fucking over for AoS
>>94417682>gimp in bottom righ breaking the 4th wall
>>94415731The Ancients, yeah. A Knight-Incantor plague by visions of the Stormcast Morathi trapped begging her to save them goes on a quest to free them against the will of her superiors because Sigmar wants to ignore the problem instead of upsetting the uneasy alliance he has with Morathi. Her and a group go to infiltrate Anvilgard while her superiors hunt her down. Whenever they arrive at Anvilgard though, they just join the city's forces in defending it alongside disbanded loyalist Freeguilds and Stormcast in hiding who haven't been captured yet against a Khorne invasion and the Stormcast are released as a favour for the gesture and everyone agrees to act as though the whole situation never happened so it can never be brought up again. The human citizens they focus upon as being oppressed aren't really addressed. There's a theme of memories and the importance of those to Stormcast, but mainly to highlight the existential horror of being held captive or waiting in hiding for a decade. Ven Brecht makes a cameo as a disgruntled Morathi hating chad who wants nothing more than to rescue his allies but ofc he's not the protagonist so he comes across poorly with his inaction. Also the non-binary Tetra from Soulbound feature which makes it canon ig. It's a mess honestly and the interesting framing is quickly dropped.
>>94417682Why couldn't Sigmar stop Trump?
>>94417850That's really funny in context, by the end I was almost expecting the twist to be that Morathi was mind controlling the Incantor into thinking she was based all along or something
>>94417850>Also the non-binary Tetra from Soulbound feature which makes it canon ig
>>94417861As Morathi and Malerion demonstrate, Sigmar can never bring himself to fully turn on an ally if they are too based.
>>94417574This edition is all about spamming Endless Spells (or Manifestations) and Seraphon can spit those out with ease.
>>94417682Where the scan? Please i don't mind it being in Spanish
>>94417031>the commie shitIf you read the short story they did last year in Xmas WD, that is still there.
>>94415476I mean he's right. What do you want GW to keep the entire range around for fucking ever and never ever ever remove stuff? You know the most expensive part of a business is storage, right? You want them to just keep 15, 20, 25, 30 year old models around forever so your fee fees aren't hurt? You complaining they have 'third class rules' is hilarious because under Kirby, they just didn't get anything. At all.You're like a child that isn't playing with a toy and then the adult takes the toy away and now you suddenly want to play with it.
>>94417987these people are retards, they don't understand that you can, you know, use whatever models you want>b-b-but the rules!!!okay? rules change regularly as it is, there is absolutely nothing stopping me running the manticore as a karakdrak or w/e. there is nothing stopping me making an AoA unit either.>b-b-but matched playif a guy won't let you play with an AoA unit then they're not worth playing against anyway, you pay points just the same.these people will say shit like the tau sniper drones are 'sovl' despite nearing two decades old. like who the fuck takes tau sniper drones? but you can bet your ass people will moan when they eventually go.
>>94417987>under Kirby"This water is boiling, they're cooking us alive!" Said the crab."Be grateful, the water is less hot then last time!" Said another.Bear in mind that you can't use them in tournaments, or they could say, update the model without squatting it. Or that similarly aged models are kept, ostensibly for sales, but we can't actually see that data.Keep licking those boots crab.
Idoneth Deepkin from Chamon
>>94418010Thunderfury?
>>94418009>Bear in mind that you can't use them in tournamentsYou can use them in tournaments, you can't use them in official GW tournaments. It literally says that. Again, you're like a child crying that a toy he hasn't touched in years is being removed. Grow up. I'd actually be on your side if it was something like Vorgarath the Scarred because he was expensive and lasted about 6 months. But this shit is literally 15 years old. Why the fuck are you arguing for decades old models to be kept around for... for... what exactly? Note I am saying about selling them. Your models (assuming you bought them and aren't just a rabid nogame nomodel retard) are still there. GW's Henchmen haven't broken into your house and removed them. If you're honestly crying you can't walk into Warhammer World Tournament and play a fucking Manticore Sorc then you need therapy. There is nothing stopping me walking down the street and using my old Morathi or Malekith as Black Dragon Sorc or Black Dragon Lord for CoS in a tournament. There is nothing stopping me putting down Grombrindal in my FLGS tournament. Because it is not an official GW event.You're literally in tears because GW removed 15~ year old models from sale (and one of them is still for sale!). This was one of the huge problems with old GW. The constant SHIT models that hung around for decades. But I guess you're a zoomie gen-z retard who doesn't remember how fucking shit some of the models were. But you might have gained information from memes, so, Abaddon. If you know, you know. For 23 years (bar the remake in resin) we had that shit model. But for you, you'd rather it stayed forever because reasons>b-b-but it was replaced!And? Your complaint is still the same. That old models get removed.Finally; why are you here if you hate GW? >w-w-well I buy recasts!And you still support the game by playing it, talking about it and so on. Just quit. Just stop interacting with all things GW. Go play something else.
>>94417850isn't Soulbound and other RPG shit already canon?
>>94418010Brother, that’s Alpharius.
>>94418010That's Alpharius' spear, lad.
>>94418053*Solomon Akurra
>>94418051Not really, it's a third party project. Very little of their seemingly original work makes it beyond their own books
>>94417987>What do you want GW to keep the entire range around for fucking ever and never ever ever remove stuff?You mean you don't want that? why wouldn't you want that?they could get around storage by reserving those models for periodic made to order runs if it was really a problem to keep them stocked at all times
>>94418051yes, soulbound was directly referenced in the 3rd ed rulebook already.quality might be all over the place, but it's definitely canon
>>94418044>But this shit is literally 15 years oldand? someone somewhere got it 6 months ago and was fucked all the same
>>94418044I bet there are a dozen changs/dimitris making recasts for those models because they have been available for so long so it's not even entirely gone. It's also unlikely that GW won't update the models they removed especially the chaos war shrine.It's clear GW wants to remove all fantasy leftovers from the game minus end time stuff like nagash for obvious reasons and they have been slowly updating everything or made a equivalent for it.I bet the actual reason for the removal of the soul grinder and other models is that it just doesn't sell anymore because everyone who wants it already owns it, this is also why kits like SM tactical squad and the old ork boyz kit are still sold they make enough money to justify their production/storage even when updates exist.They also probably want to repackage the fantasy kits for TOW so they can sell them for more than they currently do.
>>94418009How can a bioling water become cooler over time?
>>94418044They should replace old models, not dumpster them. I've been waiting for a new Soul Grinder for years. And yes, I do own one, and a Plague Hulk, and a Defiler.
>>94417905The worst part is the favour was unexpected and only due to some background DoK petty fued
>>94413738>>94417850that's some pretty gay shit, like the author wanted to write a different story but it got sanitised to hell and back because someone upstairs said he couldn't make dok wrong or evil
>>94418276https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l1t9gpfe/strike-a-dark-bargain-with-renowned-slaves-to-darkness-regiments-and-armies/>Always in the shadows, Be’lakor has now amassed enough power to play his own game with the Ruinous Powers. His Legion of the First Prince has a wide roster, including eight daemon units (which have warscrolls in the battletome): Bloodletters, Bloodcrushers, Screamers and Flamers of Tzeentch, Plaguebearers, Beasts of Nurgle, Fiends and Hellflayers.THE DARK MASTER RISES
>>94418293That's a very strange selection of units. Why no Horrors or Daemonettes?
>>94418314Maybe because this selection has less overlap
>>94418314Because it's someone's specific vision for how the micro-army should work and >>94411625
files dot catbox.moe/6dp5t5.epubThe Ancients epub btw
>>94418342Already got that one. You don't happen to have the newest anthology on hand?
>>94418293I fucking hate soul, but this might actually be the best way to implement it. Really small scope, very limited use case so it doesn't end up being the major of the roster.
Give it to me straight guys, what are the chances/ETA on an eshin rework, and will we see a new Snikch model? The current deathmaster isn't as satisying and the silver tower deathrunner is gone. Plus, the basic troops are still the mordheim age box, that didn't really age well.
>>94418393Soup not soul, fml.
>>94418314The unit variety incentivizes a mix of daemons rather than going all in on Tzeentch or whatever
>>94418293should have had just bloodletters, furies, skull cannon, screamers and flamersthey're the only demons that could visually fit alongside belakor once painted black
>>94418427>painted blackMixed daemon players are allergic to unified schemes.
>>94418396the only thing you can look forward regarding eshin is one warcry band that has a mixture of gutter runners and night runnersno snitch
>>94418293So basically what 3e LotFP had + some more
>>94418427Really wish we had proper undivided daemons by now
>>94418427does he even need demons? he's got furies, chaos legionnaires, the centaurion, his own circle of varanguard with eternusplus in total war they made him capable of uplifting mortals to princehood under his own shadowmark, so there would be a few other big demons in an army dedicated to him
>>94406285Bless you.
>>94418458That means having to get the old night runners, remove weapons and put them on clan rats...ok for a warband, but how many clanrats do you need?
>>94418493>plus in total warNobody cares about fanfiction
>>94418293I still can't get over how pathetic this guy's showing was in End Times.
>>94418504he's got his own mark and hands out demonic gifts in vermintide too
>>94418427
>>94418588Specialist games model anon so these won't be in 40k or AoS.only HH and maybe TOW when they want Demon models
>>94418588Are they still making those?
>>94418620no
Let me take the Mindstealer Sphiranx in DoT James
>>94418787>sphiranx in std, dot and hos>fomoroid in std, bok and mon>mutalith in std, dot and mon>slaughterbrute in std, bok and hos would it be fair?
>>94418913I really dont see your your choices for maggotkin, the rest is pretty fitting though
>>94418934I don't see them as particularly striding with nurgle's aesthetic and I can see the force labor of the fomoroid or the wellspring of mutation of the mutalith being integrated into the expansion or maintenance of the gardens of nurgleif anything I'm surprised the slaughterbrute with slaanesh didn't make you raise an eyebrow, because my reasoning for it fitting into hos has a bit less to do with aesthetics (even though it is a kinda crabby creature) and more to do with the idea that it might fit into the sadistic/masochistic nature of slaanesh as well as its cults of personalities, given how the beast is ritually tortured and controlled with the swords on its back and usually its mind and wills get directly chained to a chaos hero, making it a convoluted outlet or source for sensations
>>94418934The Fomoroid is monocular like a plaguebearer, I guess
Why does the Centaurion Marshal's melee profile mention a gladius when he doesn't have any kind of sword at all
Finally got my troll trader and cheap ebay stuff in, got a bunch of new paints, now to determine what basing I wanna use and the bone boys can begin.
Lists for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyRoXZDtKzo
>>94418010
>>94418913And what would be a Khorne/Tzeentch unit?
>>94418913Do the Slaughterbrute and MVB even actually have any Khorne or Tzeentch markings anywhere on them? I always found it a bit odd that they were mark-locked, when they felt like the fantasy analogue to the Forgefiend and Maulerfiend in 40k.
>>94415075I think it might be because of the greens I've used for the leaves and his "hair". They're AK and I really like them>>94415321:3
>>94419454I need to pick up some AK paints. Only ever heard good things about them.
>>94419466They've been my go to along with duncans for a while, definetely worth trying at least
>>94419422no, they were released as undivided things in 8th ed of fantasy
>>94419339Everythings blending together
New>>94419889
>>94417452Its way to big and dosnt fit vampire phisonomy at all. Cool monster for conversions.>>94418276>kinda MoT gives wizard againI see some breadcrumbs
>>94418913Nurgle opose Tzentch and Slaanesh opose Khorne.So brute for BoK and MoN & vortex for DoT and HoS.
>>94420219but it's either one or the other, not both, no opposition happening
>>94417943Sorry chud, it's simply cool worldbuilding to give different fictional cultures their own unique gender traditions. That shit is everywhere in the real world, there's no reason it wouldn't be in a heightened fantasy one
>>94418080A bunch of it makes it into mainstream shit, soulbound as a concept are mentioned in the 3rd ed corebook and the 4e one vaguely references one of the adventure modules in the greywater fastness section. A lot of the baseline worldbuilding it sets up worms its way into BL writing just because of how detailed it is for day-to-day life, so its an easy source to pull from. Part of that is probably because that info gets onto the wiki and BL authors use shit like the lexicanum as sources since its easier than getting lore info from GW, though
