The most Astroturfed wargame ever
>>94408365What could possibly be appealing about a grimdark wargame in a setting with religious horror overtones? It's not like the most mainstream wargame in the world has the exact same theme.
>>94408365It’s the only gw competition.Good or bad the competition will force gw to rethink current strategies
>>94408451BahahahahaBAHAHAHAHA
>>94408451Why are trench crusade fanboys this delusional?
>>94408459I don’t like it personally. If it’s astroturfed it will not sell.If it sells GW will have to stop gauging.In either case I don’t really care, I play 4th edition and 3d print my models.
Threads gonna be silenced
>>94408365I've seen it arise from the initial Francina concept art. A slow buildup out of your sight doesn't mean it wasn't there.
>>94408451You are out of your fucking mind if you think it has any chance of challenging Kill Team.
>>94408365Are you just mad because it's kino?
>>94408365Explain why.
>>94408715>OP follows a grifter Youtuber and can't avoid going full DEUS VULT /pol/ in public>get kicked out of a Discord because of this>full of sperg seething, he keeps going into Trench Crusade threads to sperg out>gets his posts deleted>returns to sperg seething, repeating the cycle>makes threads like OP
>>94408365I'm trying to figure out if this is a problem and then I remember>there are several Weird World War One games >they are all ok, cheap and encourage you to kitbash>this particular one made the rules freeIt's really not my bag, I'd rather play Early WW1 with mounted lancers and forest shoot outs, or Italians vs Austrians and lean into the alpine fighting thing.MOST OF THE TIME the history stands up on its own.https://youtu.be/MWS5MfJUbUg?feature=sharedBUT YEAH. Play or don't play, waiting for Pirinen to do a fantasy wargame myself >>94408451Nah that's a shit call. Gw sells like 2726467392 minis and Trench crusade like 8. I can't stand Gw but Gw is big enough to be its own thing. Eventually Gw minis will be free to get you into their genetics program, screencap this.
They clearly haven't astroturfed hard enough, I've never heard of it.
>>94408459Whose INQ28?
this shit is so cringe i'm glad its falling apart.
>thousands of suckers threw millions at some guys shitpost homebrew skirmish game>anyone that actually cares got a free game>its going to end up crashing and burning because the community is a toxic shitheap of sjws attacking the fans.Lol it really is the best outcome.
>>94408365No one should have taught /v/ kids the word astroturfed because they all learned it from each other and none of them use it right.
>>94408850tbf this shit WAS astroturfed
>>94408873Explain how.
>>94408940The art for this and concept was being posted on here a year(s) before the intent to even make a game was announced.It was literally spammed every fucking day trying to get people hyped for a hypothetical grim dark ww1 game
>>94408957And that's astroturfing how?
>>94408973that is the very definition of astroturfing you moronic faggot
>>94408743>Kya Vess...the cat lady?
>>94408459Hello TCIDF. If you're trying to make the people calling you fags look bad, do it a little less blatantly.
>>94408980How? I'm not trying to be obtuse, I genuinely don't see how. Which big entity is orchestrating this?
94409071you are retarded.
>>94408365yes, but also why the fuck did you feel the need to make a thread about that
I dont care about politics. I just think it's vulgar, offensive, and embarrassingly obsessed with Christianity.Warhammer may use Christian imagery to create it's own thing, but TC just denigrates it all. I don't plan on playing it.
>>94408451It literally isn't GW competition, GW is a manufacturing company and a retail chain, this is neither.
>>94408984Yes her, she’s active all over the place, on the mod team for TC and is really close to the warcom GW team.
>>94408383Thats the most boring and gay part of warhammer, and trench crusade doubles down on being even boringer and gayer. As far as im concerned i want it to succeed as a containment system for people who get off on BL marinewank
Sometime please explain the butthurt around this game. We all know its like 1 or 2 maligned autistic freaks but humor me
>>94409190This. TC is sick and unironically Satanic. The creators and fans are disconnected from the Holy Spirit
>>94409190im personally not offended by the edgy angle what is obnoxious is how rabidly anti-christian some of the community are.Like its a christianity/religious themed game and theres people trying to insist no christianity anything is allowed in the fandom or setting.
>>94408796i think inq28 stands for inquisitor 28mm so a version of the GW game that was made for 54mm models
>>94409508The Blanchitsu guys. They have a zine, 28Mag, because they're hecking punk rock wargamers. They're behind TC.
>TC>sludge>turnip>the final war>a war transformeddid I miss any of the mudslop weird war 1 wargames that have come out recently?
>>94408365this shit raised north of 3 million bucks, is it really easier to believe that was le astroturfing than for you to accept that you're an autistic retard who struggles with the concept of subjectivity and is confused when people like things you don't?
>>94408365can't wait for it to kill 40k for good kekaroo
Nah fuck all of you.I've been here shitting on Trench Crusade on this board for years. YEARS. Back when it was just a couple of pictures posted here and there, I was there shitting on it. Everyone back then said I was being too harsh. They said it looked cool and could make for a good setting.Now look at it. I was right. It is a shitty just like I always said it would be. And now you faggots get to live with it.
I think the setting is net. I don't know about the wargame part. I kinda just want a graphic novel series based on the artwork shown.
>>94408365all you have is an aesthetic
>>94408788Who the fuck is Kya Vess?
>>94408365True, there are so many obvious shill YouTube videos about it. “So uh trench pilgrims…are like pilgrims in trenches…they like Jesus but the demons sure are scary…wow this is like so scary and disgusting u guys”. Over and over and over. It’s like forever winter. Soulless garbage trying to hock a shallow aesthetic.
>>94409492lmao where is this? The discord?
>>94410127periodically theres some strange raiding probably from the discord where they go to the subreddit or here and other sites and start screeching at people about how no christian anything belongs in TC.Its classic far left schizophrenia
>>94410127Most likely. The most depressing thing about social media is how we're all suddenly meant to be a bunch of old women obsessed with what Our Angie Heard Their Muriel Say About Our Matthew To Their Sandra At Our Jessica's Wedding. Christ, it used to be parody...
>>94410127from what i've heard the discord is basically unusable for anyone genuinely interested in the wargame side of this.They also make people swear some woke oath, to worship gay satan.
I just don't understand what you people have to gain by dedicating such a significant portion of your life to hating something. Not even doing anything (de)constructive about it, just making posts on social media telling people that you hate something in such a manner that it paints you as a seething loser rather than the subject as something worth hating, and not even in the same sphere as the people making it. Where's the benefit?
>>94410559The creators went out of their way to antagonize half of their potential customers, why are you surprised there are so many haters?
>>94410663>The creators went out of their way to antagonize half of their potential customers, why are you surprised there are so many haters?And their cope is to get obsessed over it for the next couple of years?At least the non stop whinging mtg players I can understand, they used to play the game.But you retards bewilder me.
>>94410683>And their cope is to get obsessed over it for the next couple of years?It takes 15 seconds to make a post that will cause you to seethe for an hour.
>>94410663>potential customersDefining your self-worth by your consumption is very bizarre but I can't be bothered exploring that further. And I'm surprised because there's literally nothing stopping you from just ignoring it, either the work itself or whatever the creators say. If you like a piece of media, the opinions of its maker should have no real impact on your continued enjoyment of it - a piece of chocolate tastes no less sweet because slave monkeys were used to make it. If you dislike a piece of media, then there are plenty of ways to affect a change in the market surrounding it. But you people seem to enjoy a piece of media, but pretend you hate it and constantly make yourself angry about it. Again, where's the benefit? You aren't meaningfully changing anything, you're just making your own life worse on purpose.
>>94410693Ah so its not actually about the designers or the game.As you were.
>>94410663>halfHahahahahaha.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>94410706>You aren't meaningfully changing anything, you're just making your own life worse on purposeI'm making my life worse by saying TC looks bad?>>94410711Christianity is a popular religion, anon.
>>94410714>Christianity is a popular religion, anon.I can feel the seething steaming off my monitor.
>>94410714>I'm making my life worseBy constantly thinking about it and making threads about it and crying on social media about it for genuine years on end but never actually doing anything meaningful about it, yes. You're like a battered spouse.
>>94410727>but never actually doing anything meaningful about itLike what? Bombing their offices? The game will be dead in a year anyway, just like 9th Age.
>>94409492You are playing Trench Crusade to be a fantasy Catholic in a dark world.I am playing Trench Crusade to genocide Muslims.We are NOT the same.
>40k but without the humor (the best part of 40k)Yeah, I'll pass.
>>94410714Lets take a minute to talk about how fucking stupid you are. We have:>left-leaning fans>apolitical fans>right-leaning fans mature enough to put their grievances asidevs>salty /pol/fagsAnd you genuinely think the two sides are even? You idiot.You drooling fucking retard.
>>94410760>right-leaning fans mature enough to put their grievances asideWhy would right-wing fans buy a game explicitly made to mock them? Seems far-fetched.
>>94409758I was shitting on it before you.
>all this honest to God seethinglollmao, even
>>94410773Imagine feeling victimised by toy soldiers.What a miserable existence.
>Play a political game>Get surprised when people have political opinions about your gameWhat did you fanboys expect?
>>94410714>Christianity is a popular religion, anon.In Africa and Latin America lmao. People with an IQ have moved on from your dumbfuck cult. God the pearl clutching and GW paypig seething in this thread is fucking embarassing.
>>94410849Damn, you really convinced me to play your game.
>>94410870We don't want you. An increasingly small number of communities want you. You are a blight.
>>94410870I dont even play TC. I just find you cringe beyond the point of words. I bet you LARP in a business suit because its le based trad conservative and pretend to enjoy going to Church. Enjoy importing millions of Africans and Mexicans to your country because theyre heckin based Christians
>>94408365god, i hate this board
>>94410870Gatekeeping you out is the point.
This shit mocks a core tenant of my faith in a way I find unforgivable. The consumption of the Flesh of our Lord is a sacred, personal, sacrament to Catholics and the perversion of that is beyond the pail for me.I don't mind the flagellant stereotypes or even the (not) Catholic church evil trope or the child molester jokes. All are valid critiques that we even discuss as a religion so we can improve and become closer to Christ.To play a game is to exist in the world of the game mentally, I don't want to exist in a world mentally, for any amount of time, where they cloned the Body of my God and it corrupts people. Disgusting. The mind of the person who made this is truly evil and open to the machinations of real darkness.
>>94409190>>94409492There's a lot thats very interesting about the game but because of its attitude it's grotesque in a way warhammer could never hope to be. The concept of the Meta-Christs is probably more disturbing than anything else in the game and by itself would make the Christians the worst thing if they weren't opposing literal satanists. The designers don't seem to be so hostile but certain elements of the community are. Beyond any of "woke" stuff I can't believe there were people moaning about the nudity of all things. I wish TC and their team luck but don't think its for me
>>94410972>Waaaaaa don't make fun of my magic daddyGrow up.
>>94410949At least you admit that you're astroturfing.
>>94410982I'm going to ruin all discourse for Trench Crusade until it is impossible to talk about on /tg/. I am currently succeeding.
>>94410987You're going to keep a lot of jannies busy and then pretend that someone is oppressing you.
>>94410995At least they'll earn their pay.
Was anybody claiming it was astroturfed before Discord cut out festering tumor out if its server?
>>94410949I'm British you handicapped biscuit.
>>94410997They are paid?
The art is interesting and it's good that Mordheim Finn is writing the rules. Will wait and see how good the models turn out. TC reminds me a lot of those early 2000's wargames with great art, cool story but never wemy anywhere.
>>94411007It reminds me of 9th Age, which had a ton of hype that amounted to nothing.
>>94408365But 3 million dollarinos bro?! That's so heckin great. It's over for the big guys. I am literally a GW shill, but this game looks like it's set up for failure. Why? Because your average wargamers are too argumentative and autistic to participate in a game themed around real actual religion. People can barely manage talking politely about the Imperium of Man. Simple as. The stuff looks cool, albeit highly derivative. Also, where do new players come from for kickstarter games? Most players meet other players at LGSs or they meet up to play at LGSs. I don't see how these kickstarter games are supposed to grow? People drop out of games all the time, so if you're not growing, you're shrinking. I cannot think of a worse space to try and get into than competing against GW. It's like trying to design a better handheld than Nintendo; even if you can do it, you can't do their marketing, reach, variety, or willingness to lose money to establish a market hold. Feels like we've been down this road dozens of times now with kickstarter. You pay hundreds, get a big box of paper and resin, enjoy it until the new GW hotness that you will actually be able to play comes out and then it's just kind of there. I guess it's good, more people to sell paints to, but these small games just make me feel sorry for the folks making them. "Small studio ready to take down the big guys with this awesome new skirmish sized game" feels like the toy story 2 buzz lightyear meme.
>>94410987You're making threads because you don't get replies in /trench/ anymore, and when you sperg out you get banned. You're wasting time on internet war. You could be playing wargame instead, but you know any community would kick you out very fast, so all you can do is seethe.
>>94411021I didn't make this thread, I just bumped it this morning.
>>94408365If only you weren’t terminally trapped in 4chan.
>>94411059Trench Crusade is a Reddit game anyway.
>>94410987Unironically fighting the good fight. Inshallah.
>>94410949Why do you think Trump has any relevance to me? I dont live in your disgusting obese and crackhead infested Mexican shithole. >>94410972>the plastic miniatures are hurting my feelings boooooo hoooooooThe eternal persecution complex of Christians never ceases to amaze me. You literally cant even play a game of plastic toy soldiers without some faggot pissing and shitting himself over something something blasphemy.
>>94411108>The eternal persecution complex of Christians never ceases to amaze meNTA but Trench Crusade was explicitly created to mock Christianity the same way 40k was making fun of Fascism. It should be a surprise Christians don't like it.
>>94411016thats a whole lotta words just to say "oink oink im a gw paypig"
>>94411119Proof?
>>94411129You think they're accidentally mocking Christianity? This guy >>94410849 sums up the average Trench Crusade fanboy.
>>94411119>Trench Crusade was explicitly created to mock ChristianityHow?
>game set in a mish-mash of the crusades and ww1>can't talk about the crusades in its threads without getting instantly banned, even on 4chan>the rules are just indie skirmish slop #43 with nothing unique about them>setting is just The Last War with a bigger art budget>extremely boring faction diversity, Christians but sci-fi ww1, christians but CUHRAZY!, islam but not jihadis, and then a bunch of AR ROOKS SAME hell cultistsIt's a coffee table game
>>94411137Ah so no proof. How are they mocking Christianity? Theyre not. Drop the victimization. Even if they are purposefully "mocking" it, maybe just get over it and move on with your life? The world doesnt exist to appease Christians. Youre literally no different to Muslims sperging out over an "indecent" depiction of Allah. No one outside of your psychotic sect gives a fuck. Stick to Bible camp and Christian rock if youre gonna be that butthurt over plastic toy soldiers.
>>94411129>>94411147>>94411187If TC isn't mocking Christianity then why is the Iron Sultanate so much more sympathetic than the Christian factions? It's because the writers know that you can't mock Muslims the same way you can mock Christians.
>>94411137If the average TC fan correctly highlights Christianity as an irrelevant meme in the Western world and calls out GW paypigs for their pathetic seething over a new tabletop game then I gotta say they sound kinda based
>>94411199This, the creators fell for the meme that the Christians were the real bad guys during the Crusades, and the Muslims who were invading everything they could and making all non-Muslims second class citizens were actually the good guys because there was a Jewish account in Spain that said so once
>>94411199Because it's supposed to mimic the dark ages.
>>94411199>>94411206>If you portray a muslim faction as more sympathetic than a christian faction that means you are mocking christianitylolKeep clownin mate.
>>94411214Where Muslims practiced racial slavery and copied Iranian, Indian and Byzantine sciene and culture? Anyway, I think the Iron sultanate is outdated orientalism. Would have been cooler with a Jewish or Tengri steppe faction.
>>94411199Art imitates life.
>>94410972this is the correct analysis/approach and the kvetching against it is tantamount to the feminist hordes seething over women choosing to be stay-at-home moms rather than pursuing office jobs
>>94411229>nuuh, it doesn't count because it was copied!Holy cope. Read a book other than da bible
>>94411221Why weren't they willing to mock Muslims then? If it's no big deal to mock Christians then who cares?
>>94411229https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_AgeThat's right.
>>94411221>And then the Christians created every problem in the entire world by being retarded Christians, while Allah blessed the Muslims with a magical wall that keeps their enlightened civilization safe from those evil, blood-crazed ChristiansWhy can't you just proudly enjoy your reddit atheism game? Why do you have to pretend it's something it isn't?
>>94411244>BUT MOOOM!Holy fuck. Grow up. You act like a petulant child.
>>94411249>reddit atheism is when Christ isn't king
>>94410972It's concerning to think one has to "place themselves mentally" in a fictional setting in order to enjoy it. Like someone figuring out how to make a slippery slope fallacy about suspension of disbelief.
>>94411119>le 40k was made to mock le Fascismus (capitalized)a) you're not even a secondary, you're tertiary b) you have zero clue about both 40k and the ideology of fascism
>>94408957>advertising is astroturfing
>>94411119Tuomas apparently asked some priests and probably imams to help in creating the factions, or so I've heard. If the aim was to mock, I doubt he would do that.
>>94411256Reddit Atheism is the intense hatred for Christianity for the sin of forcing you to go to church sometimes when you were a kid. So you get this sneering contempt for Christianity combined with an avid love of any religion that isn't Christianity. It's why reddit atheist types are so easily lured into cults like Trench Crusade
>>94411199>why is the Iron Sultanate so much more sympathetic than the Christian factionsThat only tells more about you than the game.
>>94411277It's called shilling.
>>94408820>its falling apart
>>94411290They aren't innocent, but they're definitely the most sympathetic faction in the game by far.
I for one support the idea of a general or semi-general thread solely dedicated to christian cryposting about Trench Crusade.
>>94411248>literally just translating Iranian and Greek/Roman texts that already existed>GOLDEN AGEWOW, it's literally nothing. The Arabs were replaced by Turks within a few hundred years anyway.>>94411240Yes, it doesn't count. We should be eternally thankful that the Byzantine and Frankish empires saved Europe from inbreeding and stagnation under Islam.
>Entire setting is art you glance at and think is cool before moving on.>There is quite literally nothing else interesting about the gamelmao
>>94408451They don't even know this exists bro.They make 3 million in like half a month.
>>944113009th Age was popular too... for a year or two.
>>94411311This, I've never seen a single person post about the game itself, only about the epic art
>>94410972>can't even spell tenetFucking embarassing.
>>94409685Sad part is Sludge was an interesting and unique game mechanically (even though I suppose it was more like a scaled up napoleonic game). This TC shit isn't even a 'WWI' game it's Just Another Skirmish Game.But Sludge got lost in the sauce. Instead this moronic not!Mordheim shit is what the sheep wail for. Just further proof it's not how good your idea is, it's how it's marketed. If you don't have connections to get a Well Known industry professional to mushroom stamp your project, don't bother making shit kids.
>>94411240It doesn't. Copying things real people made and then falling apart when you run out of shit to steal doesn't make you great, it makes you a parasite.
>>94409685The Last War was kinda fun, made a warband and all I remember is my Sword bearing leader dying, my sniper being my most effective member, and a giant slug entered the battlefield and forced us all to avoid it like the plague as it could instantly kill any of us. Was pretty fun
>>94411363Damn, this guy must really hate monastic scribes and the renaissance.
>>94409685I remember when turnip was the current over hyped indy garbage. That shit fell apart as well.
>>9441074240k has been systematically removing the humor since 2nd edition it is far too much up it's own ass now
I fail to see how Sultanate of the Iron Wall is sympathetic. They kidnap children who are transformed into janissaries. The alchemists have to do dangerous works to earn their title. If you fail, you go insane and will be held captive in a cell, where alchemists take notes of your ramblings, if you don't die by having a homonculus destroy you from inside out. If you manage to become alchemist, congratz. You can now create homonculi, that are slaves to humans. Some are intelligent, and know they are abomanitions. Unlike New Antioch, Azebs have no choice, they are conscripted to fight.New Antioch, the fighting force of the christendom has no monsters fighting for it, people have enlisted out of their own free will, and are not subjected to alchemical or goetic transformations against their will. They're pretty strict on the morale and religious tenents, but they have good reason to be. Trench Pilgrims who are zealots and break people for the wheel are literally seen as crazy zealots who are tolerated only because they fight against the forces of hell.Anyone who says that the sultanate is sympathetic is just looking for things to get offended from. Or has a bit strange sympathies, and might need some professional help.
>>94411367Once Islam was stopped it slowly died out and collapsed without new territory to steal, meanwhile Europe went on the define the entire world's history. Trench Crusade is written from the John Green understanding of history, where Imperialism bad unless wholesome chungus brown people do it
>>94411383Im going to tell you a little secret. Europe succeeded because of the Europeans living in it, not because of some retarded Semite theology. Remember this snippet of information, it will change your life.
>>94411390The institution of the church itself did a lot to bring Europe out of the dark ages caused by the administrative collapse of the Roman Empire. If you believe anything else then I'll know I'm arguing with someone who gets their history from Family Guy
>>94411381I mean, you just listed off reasons why the Iron Sultanate m, or at least it's military that you play as on the battlefield, can be seen as sympathic. That Azeb who just got murdered didn't even want to be there. The Janniassary is a brain washed child soldier, sent to die. Even shit like the Lions could be sympathic- what if it realizes how fucked it's situation is?You can have sympathy for the people and things being used by the faction even if the faction isn't sympathetic.Also there is zero chance they don't Grim Dark up that shit about New Antioch. Zero chance they have this righteous and clean image you are talking about here.
>>94411383Europe was able to do that because generations of "parasites" spent their lives copying classical texts, you useless mouthbreather.
>>94411383> once Islam was stopped it slowly died outWhat bizarre world shit is this?
>>94411408Not parasites if they went on to use that information to completely transform the world, Islam, a parasitic religion, completely collapsed once Europe became too strong to invade and steal from. It's why the Islamic world has accomplished nothing of note for over half a millennia
>>94411397>the administrative collapse of the Roman EmpireWhat administrative collapse? The economy collapsed, the administration became the church.
>>94411413Islam only exists has a backwater inbred rural religion in the hell hole known as the middle east. Their only source of expansion is the import of their people by GDP farmers
>>94411419The administration became the many regional powers that dotted the continent that gradually conquered each other into larger powers that were bound by church rules not to go overboard. The church remained the church
Its funny that until I read this thread I fully assumed TC was some tradcath incel wish-fulfilment slop, courting sone Venn-diagram mix of secondaries who sim for Imperium and Nurgle players.
>>94411403They will almost make the Sultanate more grim. Far as I remember there isn't lot of lore about sultanate yet. Most information is from lore bits of troops and subfactions.Like I said, you are looking for things to get offended from. Fact that you sypathize with everyone except the christian soldier fighting against the forces of hell, protecting his homeland and family. That is on you, no one else.
>>94411429That's what it was advertised as, but the troon community got to it first and put up their own iron wall. Much like the members of it's community, it won't last lost
>More culture war nonsense between retarded transexuals and retarded jew-worshippersYou niggers are lame and gay and retarded.
>>94411277As long as the ads look like opinions of people instead of ads, you are correct.
>>94411453Knowing I will never hug a tiger feels bad.
>>94410760How come only right-leaning fans must be mature enough to shut up about their views?
>>94411453It's an inherently political game, why are you surprised? The Discord is full of people arguing about politics too.
Instead of trying to be its own thing and using a reasonable scale for mass battle - like 15mm or even 1/72 - it went with trying to be a direct competitor to GW.It has no legs, 20k sales on a Kickstarter is nothing for a game that wants a real playerbase.
>>94411397>dark agesDidn't exist.
>>94411487Being tradcath is ultracringe and weird. Being trans-ally liberal is only about as cringe as being a Tucker Carlson listener, but all of those are bussy railing their 55yo midwestern lovers who love mayo on fishing trips instead of defending Western Values (tm) in a satanist game.
>>94411511>Being tradcath is ultracringe and weirdAs opposed to gooning to OnlyFans whores like your average leftist zoomer?
>>94411432I'm not that anon and I'm not looking for things 'to be offended by.' I posted that because your arguments are fucking moronic. You know what, scratch that. I AM offended by TC, a shit mediocre as fuck game with ripped off diabo art, getting all this time and attention while a genuinely interesting game with cool interesting mechanics- Sludge- got forgotten (I AM the anon who posted the long Sludge post).
I honestly don't really care either way, but the few threads I've seen about the game don't feel genuine. The posters don't feel like they belong here, if you get what I mean.
>>94411523>game with cool interesting mechanics- Sludge- got forgotteRuined by a poor name.
>>94411527There's a discord for the game that organizes shilling campaigns and such, they realized nobody was coming to the discord anymore after banning everyone that even mentioned the crusades, so they're trying to export that same mindset. Just look ITT at how insanely upset these posters are getting about discussions about the game's themes rather than jerking off to it's art over and over
>>94411519Not being a faggot tradCath does not automatically mean youre a degenerate leftie. I know theres no point trying to tell you this. Youre mindbroken beyond belief, utterly incapable of comprehending anything outside of "christianity good non-christian bad". Youre the exact same as the tranny leftists, completely warped by dumb polarised dichotomies the elites have served up which youve fallen for hook line and sinker. Sad.
>>94411560>If I attack the right, then that means I'm not on the leftSorry anon but that's how the world works, when things get down to it and rockets start flying people won't care what shade of grey you are, only which side you pick, red or blue. Your position is completely unsustainable beyond shitposting online
>>94411519>You're a weirdo if you watch and/or pay for pornNo comment desu
>>94411602Paying for porn has been a loser thing for at least 20 years anon
>>94411523Its not moronic, your seething legit tells more about you than the game.Never checked out sludge, and will not. Might be good game, but you have to learn to deal with the fact that others like stuff you don't. Most do that as a children, but you should be able to pull that off as an adult.
>>94410773You got people like Archwarhammer who is right wing and is seething to this day that 40K made fun of his ilk (he still can't stop paying for 40K stuff)
>>94411487Why are you asking me? You think I make the rules?
>>94411621I dare you to tell that around inebriated barstool guys. You're like the libs who can't fathom how Trump can win the popular vote due to ignorance of what the common person really is like.
>>94411428You are an idiot and you don't know anything.
>>94411669You sound like someone that hasn't left their house in years, paying for porn is for fucking losers man. Barstool guys just jerk off to instagram or pornhub, like they have for years
>>94411669lol
>>94411689Cunning insight by the Family Guy school of history
>>94411253>>94411240>>94411123Look upon the intellectual might of the trench crusade enjoyer.
>>94411623Bro the only person seething in this thread more than me about the shit quality of this game is (You). And maybe the weird as fuck Satanic panic faggot posting here as well (I'll take an educated guess and assume that's you too)
>>94411691You know full well that there are hordes of normies paying for premium accounts and other services.
>>94411732It's just coomer whales, they exist all over the world but they never leave the house. You can tell by looking at them, but none of them are barstool guys. Their population as exploded since COVID killed socialization for a lot of easily influenced teens, but they aren't considered normies by any meaning of the word
>>94408689Does she jump around?>what's that sound I hear?
>>94411347Look at our skirmish slop! A simple core mechanic (which will then turn into a clusterfuck of special rules that could have been a statline). We have alternating activations! And a reaction! We're hip!
>>94411728>Satanic panic faggot posting here as wellLol no,my posts are more or less informing that people are wasting energy on hating something for childish reasons.We have retard that blames the game that he only sympathizes with muzzies, one guy butthurt that his faggotry was not tolerated in discord, and people seething that people are interested about TC more than some other game. In both cases its just those people dwelling on their butthurt over stuff that isn't really that important. Its a game you can choose not to play.
>>94410849"Cult" shares the same root as the word "culture" and in academic usage is interchangeable with "sect" so yes religion is by the literal definition of the word a cult.
>>94411214>le dark ages meme
>>94411847>Our society is build around our religion and kills/tortures anyone who doesn't conform to that religion>Our society doesn't let you be a scholar without being a priest>Look at how pro-scholarship we are!Christianity is dildoes.
>>94411859>kills/tortures anyone who doesn't conform to that religionfalse>Our society doesn't let you be a scholar without being a priestalso falseTry yo think like the rationalist you want to think you are not a zealot.
>>94411847Midwit.
>>94408451It's not even competition is the thing, it wishes it was but it really isn't.
>>94411874Oh wow great counterpoint, I guess pseud pop-history is right after all. Those damn Christians are why I'm not living in a spaceship right now, they made science illegal!
>>94411199Yet another example of TC being "safe edgy", you have to roll your eyes. Evil Catholic Trench Knights vs Demons is a strong premise made weaker by the Islamophilia.
>>94411915>midwit goes full melty because people don't take his infographs as gospel. Lel.
>>94411752> skirmish slopI'm stealing this.Love the rest of it though, but I do agree that alternating activations is far far better than IGOYOUGO trash like 40k, mordheim, fantasy, etc.I also don't get why people jerk off tuomas so much. He works on fantasy and mordheim. Then he went to video games. This dude isn't an Alessio or a Chambers. Why are fags so keen to jerk him off.
>>94411931Uh-huh so why don't you tell us about the "dark ages" which you know so much better than the historians then. Be sure to include your primary sources.
>>94411368these games will never work as long as its an art project that happens to have some rules tacked on. People will paint their dozen figures, throw mud all over them and put them on the shelf and move on to the next project.
>>94411957>midwit continues his melty and treats every online interaction as a debate.Kek.
>>94408451Games workshop sold more space marines yesterday than trench crusade brought in revenue
>>94411982Sorry I didn't realize you were only projecting, keep going then.
>>94411956>but I do agree that alternating activations is far betterMy point is that it's become a default rule that these indy skirmish designers like to pretend sets their game apart.Then they go suck off Infinity's turn sequence, which is not actually an AA game.
>>94412000>y..y..y.our projecting!The ultimate midwit defense against self analysis. Keep posting you beautiful average IQ fren.
>>94411300The interesting part about it really is to see if they can pull it off or they're at the kickstarter failure point of being unable to ship promises for long enough hype about the game dies off. You can already see the lack of models in the general. Use to be people posting their own kitbash, now its people waiting for official models. There might be enough people printing their own to maintain the community, have to wait and see.
>>94411418Hilarious how the only successful Mohammedians succeed entirely based on oil that civilized countries buy.
>>94408689>I cast Hydrogen Detonation: Air Burst!
>all these nu-/pol/fags pretending christianity has anything to do with /pol/The only way forward for the white race is Satanic Hitlerism or Hitleric Satanism, not rabbi Yeshua's good goy handbook
>>94412329Satanism is just edgy redditors with daddy issues, they don't even really worship satan and they tryhard being “good guys” with surface level charity and debates to “own the christcucks” and to act even MORE insufferable than baseline r/atheism instead of having orgies and blood sacrifices
>>94408365so this whole thread is for advertisement i think. all of the conversation here seems to be hateful in some way. anyway if im to be honest this supposed game seems to be some kind of kickstarter scam. i dont see how it is mechanically better or even different than any other before it. another comment had mentioned that the game seems completely empty and characterless. and that the only selling point is the very unoriginal aesthetic trying too hard to be edgy which i agree with. another weird war one clone if you will. another comment had said that these games turn out to just be an art project for most people and that the game attached to the figures may as well not exist. people will pick a handful of figures they like, paint them, then move on to the next game. i also agree with this. i would say the creators wanted to hate on christianity more than they actually wanted to make a game to be honest. my final thoughts are that this game seems unoriginal and uninteresting both thematically and mechanically.
>>94412421No one cares about your shit opinions. Stop obsessing over Reddit.
Lots of baiting and false flagging going in in thread. All you need to know is that if type out the words Tranny Crusade in one of these threads you'll get a 3 day vacation.
>>94412471very true. i feel a little bad about the state of these threads. maybe some day there will be a real conversation about trench crusade lol
>>94412486Very true. I'm not too interested in it on it's own merits, but the community and especially these threads are some of the most cancerous I've seen in a long time.
>>94412546What the fuck do you expect? The OP is literally some pathetic 40kiddy seething over the existence of another game, later on some Christfaggot hops in to cry about how offensive and blasphemous it is. People are going to react in kind. Youre acting as if people who like Trench Crusade are the ones being unhinged when its the mindbroken obsessed anti-TCers starting this shit.
>>94412606calm down lol... no need to be so aggressive. i dont know if its cause your unhinged or because you think you have to act mad and stuff cause your on le epic hurtbox 4channel dot org. your here forever in the 4chan EVIL MEAN website D:< lolololol... but please its okay to talk like a normal person and have a normal conversation about things. maybe in your next post you will be nicer! :3
>>94412606Youre acting as if people who like Trench Crusade are the ones being unhingedYou are acting unhinged
>>94412463Butthurt satanist lmao
>>94412455I agree with this post. I'll probably kit-bash some pilgrims, paint them up and admire them for a bit but that's it really.The game has little to no factions besides. The church are the real bad guys and devilishly wicked cool daemons. Oh and our harsh but sympathetic Islamic allies There's barley any models and it's a skirmish game so there are only going to be a few models to choose from so everyone will have similar looking armies. Now if they went with highly customizable but few models that would be fine but they will probably release a few mono-pose models and just tell everyone to kit-bash it. The rules seem alright but whatever.
>>94412955its actually sad how horrible the thematics are its actually laughable lol! woah church is actually the bad guy!? and the demons are rock and roll epic badass!?! wow islam is actually the good guy!?!? laugh out loud for sure... gut splitting humor. and i cant say i have any hope for the figures. all jokes aside this jawn is looking grim
>"why does no-one want to discuss the setting's themes" he said, immediately after posting two paragraphs of headcanon and irl theology
>>94413049yeah? i was at your moms house (also your house) yesterday after she sent me two whole paragraphs on why she needs my dick in her life
>>94410972>claims to be christian>doesn't want god clonedI don't believe you.You must be some kind of anti-christ cult.
>>94408451I hate GW, but come the fuck on...
>>94413117BOOM roasted! Bazinga haha! What can I say anon you got me good. Have an upvote.
>>94413232you are fucking insane... GET. THE. FUCK. AWAY. FROM. ME... NOW. and by the way i have no fucking clue what bazinga means alright? never say that shit to me again.
>>94413263Bazinga.
>>94413340sorry i just dont get it sorry hahaaaaaa yeah girl sorry but like i have no idea what youre talking about *onions* but like what you doin at a jawn like this shiit girl...
>>94413340do you wanna be my girlfriend?>>94413232
trench crusade is actual garbage slop. i dont believe these guys got three million dolla to make this shit lolol. it s gotta be a scam. what are they gonna do with all that money? put it in their pockets? most unoriginal, no creativity "games" ive seen lol. this shit is actually SAD straight up sad... lolololol at everyone who like this shit. pathetic safe for work ass edgy weird war one shit lol. pathetic fanfic because whoever 'made' this "game" had to go to church once a week as a kid and now hes assblasted by religion forever lolololol! and of course he only makes fun of christianity hahaha. im surprised there arent like jewish superheroes that show up and slay all the evil in the whole entire world without any effort heheh. this shit is so socially safe its pathetic. bro is trying to be edgy as shit but can only do it in a way society approves so fucking sad. why are people even supporting this shit THREE MILLION DOLLAAA DOLLA DOLLA MAKE ME HOLLA! this shit is out of this damn universe man...
>>94408451>It’s the only gw competition.No it isn't, but thanks for showing how clueless you are>Good or bad the competition will force gw to rethink current strategiesLike it did for past 40 years?
>>94413789i dont know if there are people out there that actually believe this slop game will scare the shit out of gw and make them lower prices but if there are im so sad about it to be honest actual 'call it mental retardation or troll' moment
>>94408451this will be the one bro for sure lolololol. shut youre fucking mouth and get a life for fuck sake
okay goodbye guys im gonna go get a pizza. yummy
>>94410972Based.
>>94408365But enough about Scythe!
>>94408365literally turnip28 reskinned for edgelords
Bump (:
>>94410974>The concept of the Meta-Christs is probably more disturbing than anything else in the gamewhich is what
>>94416462Jesus clones. The process isn't perfected and they usually turn out disfigured. They offer their flesh and blood to the faithful in an all-too literal interpretation of the communion. Those who consume it gain divine strength.
>>94416996>all too literal version of the communion Read the Bible.
>>94408451lol, lmao even
>>94409190It's honestly not any more offensive than something like Neon Genesis Evangelion. "DUDE, WHAT IF COMMUNION, WAS LIKE, ACTUALLY JESUS' FLESH AND BLOOD?"(which official doctrine already explicitly states it is via transubstantiation) is unironically a several thousand year old idea. like instead of Lilith being crucified with the Spear of Destiny, and her blood being harvested as LCL and her limbs and flesh amputated to grow EVAs, you've got cloned meta-christs who are consumed in ritual transubstantiation to grant miraculous power. Stigmatic nuns walk around bare-chested like jesus on the cross and shrug off bullets and regenerate wounds even as blood spills from them.I'm kind of confused by people who say it's ULTRA edgy, YHWH and Angels are unambiguously 100% good and on the side of humanity, Hell is 100% bad and awful and wants to fuck you up. Angels physically descending is the equivalent of a strategic weapon or straight up nukes, which isn't even at odds with scripture since that's essentially what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah, instead of going blind or getting radiation poisoning you literally turn into a pillar of salt from merely looking upon the city's destruction.The only part that's remotely "blasphemous" is that the premise isn't solved in 5 seconds with "ok god says no and all the demons died" but even that isn't completely at odds with biblical canon; God has proven perfectly willing to allow enormous suffering as a test of faith even if it involves the devil, like in the book of Job, and Revelations explicitly states that shit will get really bad with The Dragon, Leviathan, and Beast of the Earth and False Prophet. "GOD GOOD, DEVIL BAD, GO KILL DEMONS IN A HOLY WAR" is like the single least "subversive" message. It's literally a bunch of boomers who played DOOM in 1993 going "wouldn't it be sick if instead of Mars, the demons showed up in the trenches of WW1?"
>>94418572It's not deal dumbass. Wine and crackers are not flesh and blood.
>>94410974>The concept of the Meta-Christs is probably more disturbing than anything else in the game"What if Catholics were right, and Communion genuinely was miraculously transformed into the genuine blood and flesh of Christ" is an ultra lukewarm take. If you were a real tradcath instead of a fucking LARPer you would be jumping for joy that Transubstantiation is 100% confirmed to be real and all the dirty protties were wrong
>>94411123He's not wrong though, the only thing that can take down GW is GW. Wargames rely on a critical mass of people so that you can regularly get games and maintain interest. The closest anyone's ever gotten was Privateer Press and they shit themselves to death.
>>94418694>Wine and crackers are not flesh and blood.This is the protestant take, not the Catholic one.The Catholic dogma is that Communion IS the genuine flesh and blood of Christ. It's not "symbolic". Early Christians were literally smeared as cannibal heathens by the Romans because the doctrine of transubstantiation is not "We partake of a symbolic offering of bread and wine", but "this bread and wine LITERALLY becomes the blessed Flesh and Blood of Christ and anyone who denies this divine miracle is a heretic"the fact you don't know this means you're probably a protestant, which isn't surprising since only 1/4 of U.S Christians are Catholic, but larping as a tradcath and getting offended on behalf of the Eucharist is silly.Several of Augustine's most famous writings are about justifying how Communion is not just mere bread and wine despite what your eyes might believe. If you think "That's stupid, of course it's symbolic and not literally flesh and blood" you're free to think that, but it's not a Catholic belief, the same way a billion Muslims genuinely believe Muhammad mounted a flying horse and split the moon in half to unequivocally prove the existence of God.
Pic related is half the origin of the seething against this game. The other half are stupid cristcucks and pol rejects
>>94412329Brother Hitleric Satanism is the most 14 year old edgy shit you could have possibly come up with.And it doesn't even make sense. Hitler was probably agnostic.
>abloobloblabla I was told to vacate a trannycord I hate dis gaem now and am being persecuted
>>94418769I don't give a shit about who believes what where why or how. Wine and crackers are demonstrably not flesh and blood.
>>94418658It's the depiction of the "good guy" Christians, how theyre actually psychopaths who would do something like clone Jesus and torture him (multiple times) and how one of their super-soldier Jesus' turned evil and joined satan because of this treatment. The list goes on actually.In my view, there's no way this could be construed as anything other than religious disrespect for the sake of shock value, or grimdark-ness or whatever. Which it honestly succeeds in, but at a cost I'm not really willing to accept.
>>94419028Except TC genuinely looks like it plays like shit meanwhile AOS is the best game GW ever put out and is probably the best wargame rules ever made. 2d6 systems are garbage
>>94418769>>94419297>is>areNot is, becomes, during consecration. Thats the trans part in transubstantiation.And anyhow,>the outward characteristics of bread and wine, that is the 'eucharistic species', remain unalteredin Catholic dogma. So this is really a non-issue. The Holy Spirit transforms the the substance of the elements, but they will still appear as bread and wine.
>>94419534>Holy Spirit transforms the the substance of the elements, but they will still appear as bread and wineMental illness.
>>94419297>I don't give a shit about who believes what where why or how. Wine and crackers are demonstrably not flesh and blood.Okay, you're fine to believe that like other Protestants, but why are you pretending to be offended on behalf of Catholics then?
>>94419416>AOS is the best game GW ever put out and is probably the best wargame rules ever made.lmao no way you actually believe this. don't worry, I'll get up and leave for a few hours while you take a DOUBLE TURN (TM) to write up an angry response
>>94419539No. It's an attempt to rationalize the transaction of salvation, which is a miracle in it's own right.
>>94419610I'm not. I don't believe in that bullshit, I was just answering >>94416996
>>94418658>enormous suffering as a test of faith even if it involves the devil, like in the book of JobJob didn't face "enormous suffering", he just became temporarily embarrassed. He lost his wealth, but got it all back in the end.
>>94416996corpse starch: deluxe edition
