>>94422542
Mono green stompy because i refuse to spend wildcards on rare lands

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>mtg arena already mentioned

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>TQ
Rakdos aggro (standard)

>>94422574
There's more Arena players here than paper players, grandpa.

>>94422574
I don't have to smell the sewage-scented 300lb jewish edh-player that plagues my LGS if I just play arena instead

>>94422575
By rakdos do you mean mono red with a single adventure card with a single black pip? Or actual rakdos?

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>>94422626
If I had a nickel for every time mono red dominated Standard with the help of one black card, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it is quite strange.

what are the best Standard decks (to fight against the red menace)

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>tq
a fffuucking pile

>>94422574
95% of paper magic is commander. Seethe rage and piss yourself about it all you want but if it weren't for arena 60/40c fomats would be totally dead instead of just functionally dead.

When anons in this thread talk about games, they're talking about games they played on arena.

>>94422690
>When anons in this thread talk about games, they're talking about games they played on arena.
"no"

>>94422690
Arena is the best way to play Magic (because Draft is the best and drafting on Arena is free)

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>>94422640
Did hazored run pic rel too, or was that just mardu vehicles?

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Do your old friends still play?

>>94422088
Well you see EDH players hate land destruction and we want to print some exciting EDH lands, so even though the monoC artifact lands had to be banned in Modern for making affinity too good, surely making them 2c won't cause any problems as long as they come in tapped!

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any suggestions for this one?

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>>94422899
some of the shop dudes from the before-time have come back. we've gone from 4 to 12+ for modern. in the before-time we'd get 24+ but it is what it is.
i'm playing this next week. i originally posted it as ur twin-at-home but i think the white reanimator stuff is probably better than accidentally binning all my exarchs with thought scour. WIP obviously and open to suggestions if there are more efficient cards i'm missing. this one's all-in combo with no protection or plan b, where i ended up putting murktides in the other one for a plan b.

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>>94423171
this could be a sidegrade from Cathartic Reunion/Bitter Reunion
Heliod + Walking Ballista is another 2 card combo in your colours that works with Soul Cauldron (you can Helping Hand Heliod as well)
Fable of Kiki-Jiki is another Kiki-Jiki themed discard enabler
could also jam more interaction or One Rings or whatever

>>94422899
They weren't really my friends.
I wish I had at least reached out to the autists at my lgs beyond trading.

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The haste is just too much

>>94423301
You mean not enough. Should've had an ability to get first strike too.

>>94422899
I'm to much of a phantom outside of my hobbies to keep in touch with people without them, so no.

>>94422899
I don't have old friends. I don't have new friends either.
God being an autist is suffering

>>94423301
It would be fucking garbage if it didn't have haste.
Burn is still worse than pump spells at the moment and will probably be dead in a year

>>94423103
In edh they still end up being exiled because of farewell

>>94422899
one of them got jailed for being a rapist
another turned trans at one point, don't think I've ever actually seen him since
third one moved halfway across the country to get further degrees in english
dunno what fourth guy is doing but his parents are unironically ultra rich jewish lawyers so he's probably fine
and me and another guy haven't done much in the past decade

>>94423223
oh fuck yeah thats the sauce. i have fables and spyros but i felt like leaving 3 open was more of a move so i could reunion+helping in the same turn. i think arena of glory might deserve a slot as well if i'm going to mainphase a bellringer and combo off with haste, though generally i'd want to end-step flash it or reanimate it with kiki ability on a darcy so i can just do the thing.
i will win an fnm with some manner of kiki-cauldron. i might even just play jeskai with Otherworldly Gaze and Dispel for my combo turn, or Surge of Salvation or something.

Do you think anyone has ever won by morphing a card that doesn't have morph and beating down with the forbidden 2/2?

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>>94423421
I've done it several times

>>94423421
Casually, maybe. Aren't morphs forcibly revealed as part of ending a game so you can't cheat with the almighty 3 cmc bear?

>>94422690
I mean you always have Fallen Empires and Alpha 40

>>94422752
You're technically not too far off but you should be cubing or using draft sims instead.
>>94422690
Arena is putrid dogshit, for a large variety of reasons.

>>94422899
>NY Era
>One doesn't play at all, haven't spoken to him in over a decade, last I knew still worked at GameStop
>One got a job at the LGS, works part time there, but at one time was a full time employee with benefits. Stole from me. Last I spoke to him was 2 years ago at my fathers funeral, says he still casually plays EDH once in a while with some other mutual friends
>One Quit Magic entirely, has a 6 figure job, a wife and kids, a sports car, and dog. Don't communicate.
>One went to Chicago, disappeared
>One stayed in the area, disappeared
>One became a pro-player. Worked for the LGS, got fired. Got sponsored by another store, got caught cheating on camera, lost his DCI. 'Retired' from MtG
>others, but don't remember as well.

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I've got to give it to them, some of these Standard dual lands have some nice art

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Friendly reminder there's another one of those Arena events with real life physical prizes happening this weekend.

Format is sealed best-of-one. Entry fee is 30 dollars. Play until you get 3 losses. At 5 wins you get your entry fee back so you can try again. 6 wins gets 2 foundations booster boxes mailed to you.

2 booster boxes for beating internet randos? Easy money if you fancy yourself good at magic. You ARE good at magic, right?

>>94423729
>look at my gems
Heh, I have a couple of free tries to open enough bombs.

>>94423729
is it gems-only entry or can you spend gold? (I always spend my gems and just save gold)
what's the EV compared to a Limited Open?

>>94423761
Gems only.
Why do you save gold? There is no gold-exclusive stuff, convert it to gems.

>>94422899
yes. Although it's just random decks for the lulz.

>>94423776
Arena Opens have a lower buy-in if you use gold, and they are the only way to convert MTGA in-game resources to dollars afaik.
And at a 61% winrate it looks like you've got a 5% chance to go 6-0.
So like 100k in gems to get 2 boxes of booster packs if you are very good at Sealed.
Maybe you'd make 20k of that back from your 4-2s and 5-1s, so let's guess 80k gems for 2 play boosters? If I had to guess.

>>94423804
First, you are allowed 1 loss. So with 60% winrate you have a 15.86% chance to get prize from one attempt.
The chance to immediately retry is 7.46%. I will return with more math shortly.

>>94423828
And all together it gives you around 17.2% chance to win the boxes from an initial email investment of 5000 gems.

>>94423841
...i don't know how that "email" got there, it shouldn't be there.

>>94423729
Correction: Play until 2 losses. So you can lose once and keep going, but second loss puts you out.

So is it me or are all the best standard decks still exactly the same with virtually no foundations cards even included?

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Any RW Omniscience gamers?

>>94423313
It should have attack trigger, deal 1 damage to any target.

>>94424048
5 mana is too slow for standard

squirming emergency, zombify, reenact the crime, beseech the mirror can all work. Even abuelo's awakening can work, but that's your only RW option

>>94424042
I've seen a few Hare Apparent decks in mystic

>>94424091
huh Abuelo's Awakening is definitely better, didn't even know that one existed.
thought Seize the Spoils would curve into Omniscience pretty naturally but yeah red sucks for it.

>>94424119
huh didn't know seize the spoils got reprinted

but abuelos has a huge downside that you can only expect to cast ONE spell from your omniscience, and none if there are any ETB triggers on creatures (authority of the counsels / etc) and you have sorceries
at least omniscience only dies at instant speed to get lost or tear asunder otherwise in most decks, but a 1/1 flying omniscience dies to cut down, go for the throat, shock, burst lightning, etc etc

Reenact the Crime + Beseech the Mirror + Collector's Vault / Matlazanti is the best way

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UH OH
BRATTY GOBLING

NEEDS BOLT CORRECTION

ps. I need a good gobbo deck for her

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>>94424128
Seize the Spoils and Highway Robbery both look nice for setting up Omniscience and continuing the combo once you start going (this one is even + on cards). But UR can't be good.

Have you tested the Picklock Prankster + Chart a Course + Founding the Third Path self-mill package that the UW Oculus deck uses?
Or the new Thassa?

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>>94424153
I remember when anime loli cards were a Yugioh thing and we made fun of them for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CERGa1b0wT8

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>>94422899


A friend of mine game his Tempest Lotus Petal when I was in the deepest pit of depresion in years, during the last year of med school. It was my birthday, nobody greeted me because I was the class rep, had just a fight with my parents and I was just sitting next to the window waiting for the day to end. Then, my friend comes up and gives me back my notebook I had borrowed him the other day. Class was about to start so I took my notebook to take notes and I found a birthday card with "Even if you think everything is shit and hopeless, keep going anon, don't give them the satisfaction of seeing you sad. Also, take this:" and he attached the Lotus Petal (he knew I was an artifact junkie back then). I gasped and felt tears well up. I turned back, saw him and smiled back at me for class had already started. It really pumped my day and we went for McDonald's that night.
Ten years later I still use that petal on my Stax Daretti

>>94424171
>we made fun of them for it
But why

>>94424169
I mean the self mill package sets up invasion of tolvada + squirming emergence but the colors are borked, you need green black blue white
its like the dinosaur squirming emergence rakdos joins up deck, it can have super explosive kill you on turn 3 plays, or just get fucked by its draws / colors

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Hedron archive has done such wonders for me
Do you guys realize how nutty this gets with esoteric duplicator? Duplicator itself lets you pay {4} to draw 1 card, but this lets you pay {4} to draw 2 cards, then get back an untapped archive end of turn which can pay another 2 towards abilities on their turn (or your end step)

I'm torn on what I'd cut for a playset of get lost, every game of standard seems like I need sweepers on turn 3 & 4 or die to everything and spot removal is trash when every aggro deck has ward {2} + hexproof

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>>94424206
are you still on that 3-card Drowner wincon btw?
this grabbing This Town Ain't Big Enough from your sideboard is a one-card infinite loop that draws your entire deck if you have anything like a Matlazanti or Atraxa (or you could just grab Breach The Multiverses or god knows what else from the board).

>>94423396
A lot of my friends played when we were young. most of them gave up when they realized how expensive it is. The one other guy beside me who played regularly eventually got bored and sold his cards, he didnt make much money either, he just wanted to be rid of them.
When I left home my mother got motivated to clean and she threw out all my cards. I was so irritated I cannot describe it.

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wish I could play magic again. I never have any time anymore. I taught my girlfriend how to play and she was excited to build several decks but she never wants to play them with me. I'm so tired bros. I keep thinking how I felt for Thalia and how much stronger my feelings for her were compared to my girlfriend and I hate that I will always be emotionally cucked by that memory. And if I broke up with my girlfriend I would have nothing to distract me from seeing Thalia and her new boyfriend. Theyre probably having sex right now and there's nothing I can do about it. Honestly I hate myself. Thalia got me into this entire situation and I don't regret meeting my girlfriend but having a gf came with so many complications and the guilt I have hesitating to commit to my gf when I would have married Thalia without hesitation is overwhelming and hobbling me every step of the way knowing I'm a dishonest piece of shit but I don't know how else I'm supposed to move on.

>>94424262
3 card drowner wincon is more just insurance in case of a weird stupid 90-250 card opponent. Having drowners in the deck in general just helps breach combo off, so its just 1 extra Get Out which is a 2 mana counterspell a lot of the time

I thought about invasion of arcavios but even with only 1 slot maindeck, I'm not sure how you could make it work with sideboard cards to be reliable. If you mill it over with breach instead of draw it with atraxa, the only way you can get it out of your graveyard is reenact the crime- and not if you discarded it a previous turn. Unlike dowser recuring get out. But if you reenact the crime, the invasion is exiled and you get a token copy, and you can't loop that with a bounce spell. I was trying to figure out a sideboard combo that could somehow copy the invasion but there's no card advantage engine I can think of, only 1:1 copies

Wouldn't be an issue if you could replace dowser with an eternal witness effect instead, but there's none legal. They are all either target permanent or target instant/sorcery, but not 'target card'

>>94424384
They separated and don't worry the gitrog was obviously gay considering he became a cowboy

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It's not a Reenact target but Invasion must be the best (and certainly most fun) card in the game under Omniscience.
First Invasion grabs this from your sideboard and draws your entire deck.
Second one hits This Town Ain't Big Enough and now you can loop them both to cast any spell from your sideboard infinitely.
Do you really need Breach as a Reenact target when you have Atraxa/Omniscience?
If not I'd move the Breaches to the sideboard and replace them with Invasions, and cut the Drowners/Get Out for either interaction or support cards.

>>94424450
its multiple paths to combo off different starters. Omniscience, conspiracy theorist or breach (getting theorist) can all start an infinite combo from a reenact / beseech / zombify. Breach gives theorist enough fuel to let you cast the spells until you hit omniscience and continue infinite.
It lets you run 8-12 ways to reanimate (reenact, beseech, zombify) and 8-12 ways to discard (vault, matlazanti, liliana) and 8-12 targets to start a combo (theorist, breach, omni) and then just being able to hit atraxa in a pinch. So it gives the most redundancy possible.

You can still have some redundancy if you build omni + reenact + abuelos awakening in UW and keep backup wincons like rakdos joins up + metamorph and then use a self-mill package to try to hit your bits, at least such a deck wouldn't rely entirely on omniscience alone. But a deck that NEEDs to hit a 4-of is inherently low reliability

I hope the UW Tempo deck stays kind of playable in Standard but if it doesn't, at least all the expensive shit in the deck is playable in Horizons Block Constructed

>>94424535
what's your list looking like?

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>>94424153
Bumb. Raise the past with goblins sounds incredibly spicy.

>>94424546
Also am I retarded but couldn't you sideboard lightning helix and soul sisters to deal with burn?

>>94424546
The good old days of goblin bidding.

>>94424153
This is the successfull goblin shell for pio, pretty much all best cards available. It worked before Raise the past by just overwhelming with big goblin count.
https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/goblins-decklist-by-cutechandra19-2277076/visual

Standard lacks quite a few of staples but you can downscale it probably to be playable.

Trying to make Alesha work in Standard still and it's rough going. Removal is so fucking pushed.

>>94423729
It's mental watching the really, really, really good limited players stream these events. They'll just go ahead and win like 15 boxes for $300 investment.

>>94424919
Kreat isn't legal in either of those formats though

>>94424180
It's either laughter or tears, and we chose laughter

>>94424445
EIGHTEEN NAKED GITROGS AT RAM JUNCTION

I have a ruling question, why does Overlord make a tapped land with spelunking out?

>>94425177
I believe because the Everywhere land itself doesnt' enter tapped, it enters tapped as part of Overlord's ability.

>>94425194
how is that different than spells playing tapped lands and it being able to play them untapped?
Why can't the replacement effect replace the Overlord?

I'm playing Orzhov Token Control in Standard but struggling big time against Domain. I can beat it, but the only way I win is by stalling them out FOREVER, rather than actually getting a win. What're the best sideboard options to counter Domain in Orzhov apart from Breach The Multiverse mill. I'm sure I've missed something in Foundations.

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>>94425041
>>94424919
I wish Kreat was pioneer or standard legal, she's not even that strong....

Another thing: this art looks incredibly AI. Look at it, I can't be the only one who thinks it's generated?

>>94425177
>>94425194
>>94425251
Never mind maybe it was a bug because now it works or maybe their was a card I didn't notice messing with it on arena

Hello I'm retarded, where do I see what the different lotr booster sets used to cost when they were released?
So many sites track the price history of single cards and whatnot but I didn't see one showing launch info for these booster displays

>>94424546
Samefagging but won't this make humans also viable again or am I being retarded?
>hits meddling mage
>hits Thalia etc
>hits champion of the Parish
>hits coppercoat vanguard
etc etc?

>>94425472
the problem with modern humans isn't that it doesn't have any comeback potential, it's that by the time you manage to make a big board, your opponent already has something much stronger assembled

>>94425286
It only looks generated because this style is usually generated and so became associated with ai images.

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I'm attending a draft tomorrow, 1xKarlov 2xDuskmourn. I'm a decent draft player but there will be some friends that have played Duskmourn draft heavily (they reached mythic in arena)

What advice would you give me to stand a chance? (I'm already studying)

>>94425710
Duskmourne draft is really, really fun. Proactive white decks perform really well (the Cheerleader card and Fear of Surveillance won me so many games). Don't try to make a Rooms deck. Rooms themselves are fine, but every time I've seen someone go all in on Eerie and Rooms, they get BTFO. Green is really versatile and slots into many archetypes surprisingly cleanly. Unable To Scream is much stronger than you think it is. All of blacks good stuff is its removal spells. Your bombs are probably all the cards you expect; Sheltered by Ghosts, Abhorrent Oculus, Unholy Annex etc.

If you can get into RW, do it.

>>94425710
Duskmourn is a super high synergy set.
You'll be in trouble against people with a lot of experience.

>>94425952
Eh, we've had terrible flat key-art for good sets in the past, too.

>>94424542
4 reenact the crime
4 beseech the mirror
2 zombify
4 collectors vault
3 matlazanti
3 liliana
4 breach the multiverse
3 conspiracy theorist
3 omniscience
3 atraxa
2 drownyard dowser
1 get out
that's a ratio of 10:10:10 combo pieces 6 of the fuel pieces

Against control you side in 4x duress 4x floodmaw (for leyline/vacuum), against aggro you side in removal, I'm going with nowhere to run + cut down + floodmaw

>>94425998
No, stfu anon. You must hate new thing.

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Looks like the premodern spammer has finally fucked off, but I never got to answer the guy who was asking me about what I meant when I called it degenerate because I got sitebanned for posting loli on a board where you're allowed to post loli

Well, I used to play (proxy) type 1 back in the day and I was the guy who was calling premodern degenerate trash (also it's nurules anyway so it's not even in any sense not modern). So, how does premodern compare to Type1/Type1.5 in the pre-mirrodin era? Under the 1999-2003 banlist (i.e. the banlist at the end of premodern), picrel cards in my deck are BANNED in type 1.5 and RESTRICTED in type 1. It's completely fucked.
I've never seen a game last more than four turns, win or lose. My only lands either produce more than one mana and enter untapped, or produced any color of mana and enter untapped. Including sideboard, my deck is 5c, as are most decks that aren't monoblue. One of the more popular archetypes loses to a single copy of a card existing in your deck that you do not have to play, because it completely prevents (storm) mill just by being in your library.

There is no tournament scene, but from what I can tell the third most popular archetype is frantic search storm; again, another card (frantic search) that was banned in at-the-time legacy and restricted in vintage. The most popular deck relies on a rules interaction that was changed in 6th edition (and changed back in 2007, after premodern) so "premodern" follows modern rules and not anything from the time. N.B. that the interaction isn't even a historic one, since stifle itself is from after 6th ed. so stiflenaught never exist at all in the time period. Premodern is a fucking joke.

I genuinely cannot believe Sunfall wasn't instabanned from Standard.

>>94426078
I'll admit the art we've seen so far has seemed just 'fine' besides that one.

>>94426106
if you reach 5 mana aggro has no excuse for why you're still alive

>>94426106
Because red is killing you two turns before you can even cast it?

>>94426157
>>94426160
I don't care about fucking aggro shit. I hate that it hoses like 40 other different creature-based archetypes.

>>94426175
"creature-based archetype" is called Aggro

If the only way I can not die on turn 4 is to go turn 1 enigma jewel turn 2 collector's vault turn 3 sunfall then holy shit I will fucking sunfall you every game

>>94426106
>What's that?
>Power Creep AND lower cost?
>At the same time!?
>SHIP IT.

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>>94426189
>"creature-based archetype" is called Aggro

>>94426189
>"creature-based archetype" is called Aggro
Sorry chud, it's called Kindred now.

god this game fucking sucks so much ass

>>94426215
red has been given too much and it's caused a downward spiral of powercreep in every other colour (not green) to compensate

>>94426206
why is every new elf art like that

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Make Magic Great Again (tm)

>>94426206
>me turn creature sideways me ooga booga
Actual brain of aggro subhuman in action trying to explain why his aggro deck isn't aggro

>>94426321
>the only creature-based archetypes are "me turn creature sideways"
See: >>94426206
Go back to the Arena general on /vg/

>>94426321
It's not aggro if it doesn't have instant speed burn

>>94426329
That's what it means for an archetype to be creature based though

>>94426342
Go back to /vg/

>>94424173
Wholesome af

>>94426329
go back to /mlp/

>>94426378
Go back to /vg/

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>>94426350
No you, zoomer

>>94424214
>putting creatures into play with ghost vacuum, restless anchorage, fountainport and mirrex
Nice aggro deck

>>94426070
>conspiracy theorist
What format is this?

>>94426386
You're so overtly an Arenabab if you think creatures exist only for aggro.

>>94426398
That is literally the exact opposite of what I said though?
retard

>>94426404
ESL spastic please return to /vg/.

>>94426081
I don't play premodern but this is an incredibly autistic take

>>94424298
My stint of actually caring about the cardboard itself was like, a year or two at most and that was well over a decade ago at this point.
I still play etc I just do it on tts or something.

>>94426394
that's clearly conspiracy unraveler

>>94426321
Not in standard but Merfolk is Tempo and Elves is closer to a combo deck where the wincon is massive alpha strike.

>Its not an aggro deck Mooooom, its a combo deck, I'm COMBINING monstrous rage and inside out with cacophony scamp
>Its not an aggro deck Mooooom, its a tempo deck because I play 8 copies of removal and counterspells

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>resolves

>>94425286
>Another thing: this art looks incredibly AI
no it doesn't it's just people looking to get mad
same as the people who were clickbaiting the sephiroth art for weeks or literally any art because it gets Views/(You)s

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>>94426511
If I have 8 mana I'm going to cast a spell that actually kills you on the spot

>>94426501
>I'm to much of a bitchbaby to properly reply and have to make pithy comments that don't actually address one of the examples given.
Also you fundamentally cannot tell the difference between between going under your opponent and disrupting your opponent long enough to kill them.

>>94426511
I got this into play against Painter a couple of weeks ago, cleared everything, then killed him over 5 turns by bolting while he did nothing but draw go

>>94426106
We need more good exile stuff like Sunfall. Every colour should be able to Sunfall and 1 mana instant exile.
FUCK Oculus
and FUCK Black reanimator strategies

Are you guys ready for the 7 standard sets next year?

>>94426627
Hammerfall {3RR}
Sorcery
Hammerfall deals 7 damage to each creature. If a creature dealt damage this way would die this turn, exile it instead. Create a 4/4 red giant creature token.

>>94426641
Yeah
I stopped playing

>>94422899
My old friends are all I play with. We listen to music we loved when we were teenagers, cook some nice food and play lots of magic. I've honestly never had more fun playing Magic than now.

>>94426641
what? it's only 6 sets
>aetherdrift
>tarkir: dragonstorm
>final fantasy
>edges of eternity
>spiderman
>final UB set

>>94426523
I at least understand the Sephiroth thing because people are hyper-vigilant about this shit (to their own detriment) and it DID look funky, but simultaneously people don't know what sort of mistakes AI makes compared to what mistakes humans make.

>>94426524
What combination of minotaurs actually achieves a game win?

>>94426724
Treefall {3GG}
Sorcery
Each creature fights each other creature. If a creature that fought this turn would die, exile it instead.
Put three +1/+1 counters on up to one target noncreature land you control. It becomes a 0/0 Elemental creature with vigilance and haste that’s still a land.

>>94426868
Sethron, Hurloon General
Moraug, Fury of Akoum
Neheb, the Eternal
Fanatic of Mogis

Cast Deathbellow War Cry in your first main phase.

You grab Sethron, Hurloon General, Moraug, Fury of Akoum, Neheb, the Eternal, and Fanatic of Mogis, and put them into play.

You generate four 2/3 tokens via Sethron, and deal a minimum of 7 damage to the opponent via Fanatic of Mogis.

Pass through combat.

At the beginning of your second main, Neheb generates a minimum of 7 mana.

Activate Sethron's ability as many times as you can, typically twice, with help from the mana generated by Neheb. If done twice, this will give all of your minotaurs +2/+0, menace and haste.

Play a land, triggering Moraug's landfall ability and giving you another combat step.

Pass to this combat step and swing in with your hasty, menacing minotaurs, with added attack bonus from Sethron and Moraug.

>>94426868
>>94426951
depends on format
deathbellow is too slow for formats with sethron is the main problem
but face it, just getting hasty minotaurs can usually be lethal, no need for shenanigans

in pioneer/explorer you have:
>ahn-crop crasher
>fanatic of mogis
>moraug, fury of akoum
>shatterskull minotaur
>barging sergeant
>minotaur aggressor (pioneer legal, but not explorer)
>akoum warrior as a backup in case you draw copies, since its just a land drop

max damage you can do is
turn 1 skirk prospector
turn 2 wily goblin
turn 3 irencrag feat, deathbellow, attack, land drop, attack again

choosing 4/5 of the main ones can vary damage whether you have another land drop or not. Ie moraug is only +3 damage if you have 3x hasters, while ahn crop + shatterskull + barging + fanatic deals only 18

>>94426922
Timefall {3UU}
Sorcery
For each creature, create a Stasis Field token attached to that creature.
Create a 0/0 blue illusion creature token with flying and "This creature gets +1/+1 for each enchantment you control" and "Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability, sacrifice it"

>>94427137
Kragma Warcaller contributes 10 damage if you don't mind the black splash

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i need to get back to 1800

>>94422574
Hasbro plans to turn the game into fully digital. Get with the times granpa

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Can't mulligan this. We almost hit quads

I'm trying to brew a fair pioneer deck but I have hard time coming up with ways to finish matches against stuff other than burn. Any wincons for white/green

>>94427809
what does "fair" looks like in this context? without seeing your list my only recommendation is running the wandering emperor, it's an expensive removal spell but it can also be a wincon

>>94427809
>fair
What even is "fair" in a post-FIRE format? GW coco your speed or no? Or you just want something novel?

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>>94427913
There's CoCo
There's Raise the past

>>94427910
It's probably way too slow but my idea was to cheat out humans with pic rel and enduring innocence.

Looking back. Changing standard from 2 to 3 years fucked things even more

>>94426641
Another year of retards hiding behind sheoldred
No thanks

>>94427333
What format are you running 3 hydras in? Some kind of pauper elf shitbrew?

Can rat agro work in standard? Maybe ub?
Feels like there is so many slop to even make them work

>>94427809
There's always Overrun style effects

>>94428013
probably needs 4x mockingbird 4x bullshit rat
its a problem when a deck gets ONE insanely overpowered tribal aggro card

phyrexians:
>grafted butcher
rat:
>persistent marshstalker
skeleton:
>corpses of the lost
elves:
>voja
deathtouch:
>fynn
rabbits:
>hop to it
etc etc
you only get to have 4 copies of good cards in your deck and totally falls apart if you don't get them. Look at how god awful rabbits are if they don't get tokens. Look how skeletons are just a bunch of shitty savannah lions until oops you went from 4 tapped power on board turn 2 to dealing 9 on turn 3 and threatening more haste skeletons every turn.


Rats are 100% unplayable without marshstalker, quote me on that. Lord skitter is just middling for a 3 drop, its not that aggressive, its threatening 4/5/6 damage on turns 4/5/6

>>94427967
it sounds like you want to play gw coco but worse

>>94428058
Now do goblins

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How I build every deck

24 lands

If mono color:
18 creatures of each color
18 spells of each color

If dual color:
9 creatures of each color
9 spells of each color
12 lands of each color

If tricolor:
6 creatures of each color
6 spells of each color
8 lands of each color

Works every time

>>94428082
You are right

>>94427998
It was Gruul Monsters in Pauper vs Familiars, you can just Bestow every turn until they run out of counterspells and die

>>94428117
goblins have a single pushed aggro card and its better in convoke
if goblins had 1 mana artifact generators it would be better but the fact is NOTHING goblins have actually makes damage above curve other than gleeful demolition

2 power +1/+1 lords aren't even pushed anymore, and goblins got a 1 power lord

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>one store in my city runs fnm (not fnedh)
>format: standard
>barely gets any players even with one of the players sponsoring packs as prizes
>some guy asks if proxies are allowed
>"sorry no"

standard exists only on arena

Nobody wants to play standar because its as full of slop as modern is

>>94428274
Welcome to the year 2020+X
Paper is dead
Magic is Fortnite
FMN is empty but Hell is full

>opponent turn 1 rockface village, heartfire hero
nice standard

>>94428339
But they told me Foundations saved Standard and made it fun again

>>94428354
Its ruined for 3 years as long duskmorn mistakes are there

>>94428348
>t1
>mountain, heartfire
>t2
>mountain
>monstrous rage, dreadmaw's ire
I cum every time.

>>94428354
>>94428410
>>94428415
>three more years of RDW killing people on turn 2
>no bans in sight

>>94428465
ETA to turn1 wins?
Shouldn't be that crazy, fast mana has been in red for a long time. Even something like a tinder wall reprint could do it but it wouldn't be reliable enough to run.

why don't they ever change the starting life total for balance

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>>94428465
I fucking warned you

>>94427967
this card seems more like a soldier stompy legacy card than a pioneer one

>>94428494
this tbqh
I think 25 is reasonable, or even 30 if they add stun counters but for lifegain.

>>94428494
>taken but also increase poison niggers counters to 20

>>94428274
>trying to play a digital only format irl
>no one wants to play it
What did they expect?

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You might hate it but Arena is the best way to play magic
>Historic: curated
>Deck variety: saved
>Fun: keyed

Modern is still suffering from energy decks right? Historic actually gets balance updates and fun new cards that people can toy with.

>>94428465
BO1 is not standard.
Hell, arena in general is not standard.

>>94428705
Historic is just not a serious format so people play whateverthefuck.
If you ever care about your Arena rank for some reason then go farm Historic players.

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You might hate it but Master Duel is the best way to play magic
>Format: curated
>Deck variety: saved
>Fun: keyed

Modern is still suffering from energy decks right? Master Duel actually gets balance updates and fun new cards that people can toy with.

>>94428742
>Historic is just not a serious format so people play whateverthefuck.
Yeah, it has soul.

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>>94428753
Every day this becomes closer to the truth and I hate it.

>>94428753
Nah man fuck that
I scaped from nu ygo cause every match feels like monoblue mirrors

>>94428709
yeah standard is so much more fun when you get to play 2 games in a row against turn 1 leyline heartfire/scamp instead of bo1 vs non-leyline bullshit

>>94428807
I can handle red monkeys
Turn 2 occular nigger on the other hand...

>>94428753
I just don't like it mechanically.

>>94428807
>>94428826
Bros your Authorities?

I just built a mono black deck with 9 removal spells and it has been crushing the red aggro matchups (I'm playing this bo1 arena shit so 75-80% of my opponents are on red aggro)

>>94428877
does literally nothing vs scamp / heartfire / etc

I'm glad we nerfed Hearthfire

>>94428884
The deck is degenerate but it's also very beatable. I think basically any tempo build can farm it for wins if Arena doesn't decide it's time for your designated losses.

>>94429065
wtf the tempo deck's worst matchup is red aggro you retrad

>>94429106
Tempo is pretty good against current iterations of red, because they rely on combat tricks and prowess/valiant creatures. Normally something like flood maw would just be mana neutral and card disadvantage against the red 1 drop of the format, but now if you're timing it right it's card neutral and mana advantage.

>>94429125
This. Any midrange deck that leans into control will also do it. You just answer their buffs with removal.

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>>94427967
>>94428149
If you just want something to brew with, try pic rel
I got my ass beat recently by a WB variant copying "removal on a body" effects. Was fun to watch.
Green gives you coco and maybe ramp? Idk what other etbs Green has.

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We won't ever get such a soulful set again. Lorwyn is not coming back.

>>94429392
autism but i really dont like the flavour text on this
the art tells the joke well enough on its own

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>>94429422
It wouldn't me a modern magic card without god awful flavor text

>>94429476
The LRR flavour text writer has been awful for MtG.

>>94429392
I'm positive Kathleen from LRR wrote this
>>94429513
Jokes are fine, but stop putting them on every fucking card or stop explaining the obvious joke.
I grew up watching LRR skits and unskippable but I don't want them on my cards

>>94429476
things have definitely gotten worse but i've never really liked mtg's attempts at humor (outside of unsets)

>guy says he wants to get into legacy on a budget
>a number of people provide him resources for budget options but its painfully obvious that getting into the format this late in the game is laughable
>link him resources for fake cards
>thanks but i dont want to get banned from tournaments :)
These are the same people who think buying fake sneakers supports terrorism.

>>94429549
I only buy that brand of Pakistani terrorist sneakers that the Taliban swear by.

>>94429599
Based

>>94429599
Ishma my brother

>>94422542
>TQ

Seraphic Steed and Gruul Manifest

>>94429549
>This faggot doesn't want to get banned from tournaments what a fag
Are you retarded?
If you want to have a discussion about how vintage and legacy is only going to die and slowly diminish because of price and availability that's not how to start it

>>94429785
Implying the average person can identify a fake card without unsleeving and using a loupe

>Many Magic the Gathering Players ask the question............gkpx

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I want to Omniscience..

>>94430293
the only cool blue enchantment is battle of wits

>be unemployed
>start a late night mtgarena explorer game
>que into Leo T. Osborne Junior
Yep, it's kino time

>>94430373
I'm unemployed but I wish I were dead

>>94430293
wtf I'm undefeated but the games never last long enough to Omniscience
Collector's Vault + Caretaker's Talent is insane.
Repair and Recharge on a Caretakers talent has actually been relevant too.
should just cut the blue cards.

>>94428500
REDLINE, I am atop the universe!
REDLINE, I'm gunning at the first, oh
REDLINE, although I'm sounding cynical,
REDLINE, I know I'm gonna win!
And the best of us is, rising up to the top,
With the help of, RED LEYLINE (ugh!)

How do I get better at sealed? I regularly trophy in draft, but can barely break even on a lucky night with sealed. I just can't seem to build a good deck no matter the format.

>>94430471
Hope you get a lot of bombs and are prepared for them.
When I play sealed I sperate my cards by color while setting bombs/mythics near the color pile.
Then you kind of just hope you can find a good curve, pulled bombs, and that they line up

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>>94430407
>taps out for a Kaito
>dies on turn 4
okay they are staying in

>>94430492
That sounds like it could be right. I usually end up building around my most solid commons and uncommons with a splash for a strong bomb that is the only good card I have in that color.

>>94422542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ik_QVi8D8I
Hasbro about to get sued into oblivion. They're barely treading water as is, they definitely can't pay bigboy damages and fines for lying to shareholders.

When they go under, who do you think will buy WotC? It's still a money printer, even when Hasbro can't manage it for shit, surely someone will be chomping at the bit to buy it.

>>94430583
nothing ever happens, stop getting clickbaited unless thats your own video then get your bread up king

>>94430583
Yeah, this is a nothingburger

>>94430613
>Yeah, this is a nothingburger
Actually this is actual securities fraud and a very serious lawsuit.

>>94430676
That Hasbro will bury

>>94430578
Sealed is very top heavy and bomb heavy and a lot of times your curve will suck so sometimes it's best to just go all in on multiple bombs at the cost of a good curve

>>94430693
>That Hasbro will bury
*Sacrifice
Get with the times, Old Fogey.

>>94422542
>TQ
>which decks are you playing right now?
I wanna viable weenie aggro deck; any format is fine.

>>94430693
This isn't like players trying to sue them over the reserve list.

You don't get to just laugh off screwing over BlackRock, Vanguard, and Capital Group. They literally own the world.

>>94430827
Are there enough cat cards to make cat tribal work?
You have a draw etb, cat lord, and unique cat overrun in foundations plus other things

>>94430827
>>94430901
Modern Boros Energy is one half cat/weenie deck (ocelot pride, ajani, soul brother i forget the name of) and two halves MH3 block constructed. It is also very, very viable.

>>94426081
>go on the internet and tell lies because you have autism
Most games aren't over before turn 4. BW Control and UW Control are both well represented in tournament scenes and make long games. Stasis and other prison decks also make long games.
Land base is notoriously bad in PM. Anything more than dual color pays a serious price in consistency. Wasteland and Rishadan Port are both legal and widely played in aggro strategies, further preying on greedy retard manabases
Frantic Storm is neither popular nor good. Losing to Gaea's Blessing is 100% a skill issue.
There is a tournament scene, prevalent in NA, SA, and EU. If you don't believe me, I will begin regularly posting tournament results here.
Modern rules are used to allow people to play games and tournaments on MTGO.
Stiflenaught is beatable and can be answered by every color. It is not the most popular deck, which is probably Sligh (and also the reason your 4x city of ass 4x ancient tomb is a larp)
The cards you're whining about in your picture + Frantic Search have a different card pool to work with. Type 1 and 1.5 in 1999 is 93-99, while PM is 95-03. All the cards you posted are beatable by any deck with proper sideboarding. Sure these are strong cards, but the rest of the card pool determines how powerful these enablers can be.
You're welcome to talk shit after you've tried it, but your post reeks of LARP. Post your timestamped 5c deck or commit seppuku.

>>94431045
Energy is getting the banhammer alongside Ring. I hope they hit something like Static Prison so the deck can live just in a worse state. They'll probably ban Ajani or Guide of Souls though.

>>94428465
I played this deck since it's inception, hell, I even used burn together BEFORE bloomburrow in my gruul deck.
I have NEVER achieved turn 2 kill. Turn 3 kills can be counted on two hands. The percentage of games where you assemble a turn 2 kill and opponent doesn't remove your 1-drop is abbyssmaly small.

FUCK YOU WIZARDS YOU FUCKS
YOU RUINED THE GAME WITH THESE FUCKING PUSHED AGGRO CARDS

>>94431068
Sorry, there is no one Energy deck dominating the format, we are monitoring the situation.

I wish vampires were viable as a tribe

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>>94431056
>Type 1 and 1.5 in 1999 is 93-99, while PM is 95-03
And the type 1 and 1.5 list in 03 is the 99 banlist with some bans/restrictions on newer cards. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>Post your timestamped 5c deck or commit seppuku.
I already deleted it. Unlike you, I've actually played the format. It's a bad joke. Sorry kid.
*flings you for 54 on turn 2-3*

>>94431250
Sorry they were only viable in Pooneer, and WotC did away with that quickly by banning the wrong card.

>>94431270
:(

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>>94426641
>Loot will be featured in 7 more sets next year
Hopefully he gets his own vehicle card in Aetherdrift™

>>94431311
Quite frankly, if Aetherdrift is going to be full on Wacky Races, I want Jace to end up being Dick Dastardly and Loot to laugh at him like Muttley.

>>94431270
>>94431307
I get why they banned Sorin, I don't like that they banned Sorin but its a sign that the R&R team knows the current state of Wizards is one in which cards will not be properly tested and things are going to break. Because of this they banned Sorin so that the next time a Vein Ripper tier Vampire comes out we don't get a repeat of this issue. Same logic with Amalia.

>>94431342
>R&R team
They are certainly getting some r&r instead of doing their jobs.

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>>94430827
play UW humans in pioneer
https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=60922&d=657926&f=PI
mockingbird was an amazing addition to the archtype since everything you want to copy costs 1 or 2 mana