Palladium Games and Rifts General! /PGaRG/RIFTS! The science fantasy world of post-apoc cyborgs, wizards, dragons, ninjas, giant mecha, super-nazis, robot ninjas, vampires, underwater kingdoms, remnant human supertech civilizations and everything you can imagine all rolled into one setting where interdimensional RIFTS have pierced Earth's fabric and turned it into a playground for aliens and monsters!Plus other Palladium Games about superheroes, zombies, classic fantasy, supernaturals investigation and more.Talk about:>RIFTS(tm)>Heroes Unlimited>Palladium Fantasy>Beyond the Supernatural>Dead Reign>Robotech (lol)>TMNT & Other Strangeness + After the Bomb>Splicers>Nightbane>Savage Rifts>Resources, PDFs, links, podcasts, etc.:https://pastebin.com/nCtwd6Jw>Latest Kickstarter (Savage Rifts Europa)https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/545820095/rifts-for-savage-worlds-europa/>official (highly-moderated) discord:https://discord.gg/xGkk75Z>Scholarly Adventures reviews and guideshttps://www.scholarlyadventures.com/blog>The Rifter torrent with issues #0 to #85https://files.catbox.moe/57wqyo.torrent
>>94648409Still waiting for the whiney 08 player to respond to a single claim ive rebut'edWhat a loser."I need my hobo to compete in battle with my dragon player"Cringe.
>Ectoplasm can be used to simulate limbs>The rifter that expands telekinesis and ectoplasm mentions that the psychic gets tactile sensations through ectoplasmTentacle sex is back on the table boys, time to make six ectoplasm penises.
>>94653611There's already a thread up: >>94653521
>>94653937This one has more posts, so it wins dude.Dems da rulez
>>94654595Shoot, I’m torn cause the other one do have a Christmas related OP image
>>94654887Santa Kevin is all you need...
Honest question; who else here ignores the rule that the zombies from Dead Reign are immune to laser, ion, plasma and basically all forms of energy weapons?
>>94655176Its never came up in the few dead reign games. Never used them in rifts, either but if you don't they are push overs in rifts id imagine.Have you crossed the two alot?
>>94655176What makes them immune & how can I best exploit it?
>>94655219>What makes them immuneThe same thing that makes Vampires immune to lasers, but still destroyed by sunlight
>>94655219Basically, Kevin's notes on crossing over zombies into other settings notes than in M.D.C. settings, they become M.D.C. creatures and they're also impervious to all energy-based M.D.C. weaponry on top of that. Why? Fucked if I know why.
>>94655265>>94655260>>94655176Maybe it's what happens when Kevin tries to balance things. It's a horrible idea. Like if you set a zombie on fire it's the same thing only much more intensely in a smaller area.
>>94655521>>94655265>>94655219>>94655176A simple RAW explanation is that their energy matrix changes to the opposite when infected, as its acmagical infection. If they become neutral energy based
https://youtu.be/7dRtQpssN3w?si=njAlfPYsKH3bK1RGKevin message to us all
>>94658578Idk why I was expecting him to have an unusual sounding voice.
One thing I like about ai art in regards to rifts and the campaign is being able to make a character that looks very similar to how I visualize them in my head. This is a heroine in the campaign that the team is working with and I finally got around to making her first draft of her ai art.
>>94664189Nobody gives a shit retard, go to your slop thread.
>>94664189Burster?
Forgive me, for I have sinned.I caved and did the MDC = SDC x10 house rule.After 15 years, I finally caved to doing the rule.And it makes things so much more convenient.Suddenly minor MDC beings and Supernatural Strength can exist in SDC areas, they're still tough/deadly but they're no longer walking, talking nukes.Laser pistols missing their target no longer obliterate everything in their path.And high end machine guns have a reason to exist.I have fallen into the pit and tasted the water, and the water tastes like honey.
>>94665263I perfer 1md= 13.5sdcIts really simple conversion to do on the fly during combat.....
Does anyone have any of the art of the Nightbane from, well, the titular Nightbane RPG?
So, the Nightbane can officially practice magic by taking the Nightbane Sorcerer or Nightbane Mystic... variant R.C.C.s, I guess? Anyway, the point is, the Nightbane splatbooks introduce alternative spellcasting O.C.C.s, and I'm wondering how you anons would handle letting Nightbane cross-train as these different kind of mages?Looking at the Nightbane Sorcerer and the Nightbane Mystic, we see two different methods of handling things. The Nightbane Sorcerer sacrifices almost the entirety of its free Nightbane talents, getting 1 automatic talent at level 1, and otherwise having to sacrifice base P.P.E. to learn new talents. In contrast, the Nightbane Mystic gets as many free Talents as a regular Nightbane, but does so at different levels, due to not getting the Mystic's normal psychic powers.So, my kneejerk approach would be to divide the different magic-using O.C.C.s based on whether they use the Sorcerer approach or the Mystic approach, and just use the original Nightbane Sorcerer and Nightbane Mystic as my guide. Does this make sense to anyone else?Like, the Fleshsculptor, Cybermage, and Astral Mage are all variant Nightbane Sorcerers, because these three mages all practice what is basically a variant form of sorcery.The Mirrormage is a variant Nightbane Mystic; the Mirrormage's powers revolve around interacting with the Mirrorwall, which is an inherent ability of the Nightbane, so it makes sense it wouldn't require as much 'dedication' as pursuing sorcery would.Nightbane cannot be Shadow Warlocks; these are basically already Nightbane Sorcerers, but coming at it from a different angle - human mages who unlock Nightbane Talents as well as spellcasting abilities. Likewise, they can't be Channellers, because, well, Nightbane are already inherently magical.I've no idea how a Nightbane Arcane Detective or a Nightbane Mortificant would work.Actually, speaking of the Mortificant, did the Nightbane hardcover canonize it?
>>94666721Rifter had some great Nightbane art (that gets recycled into later Nightbane books)There was also a cool descendant of Angel RCC someone made
>>94666834That's how I'd do it.Inherent casters copy the mystic, learned copy the sorc.>>94667710The Half-Angel OCC was updated and canonized in Shadows of Light.
So, in the last couple of years, Palladium has been doing hardcovered "Bonus Edition" versions of their core gamebooks. And as a sneaky little incentive to make you buy a duplicate copy, these Bonus Editions contain extra content. But has anyone figured out the precise extra content in each Bonus Edition version book?Like, I have Chaos Earth Bonus Edition, which includes the Blue Zone Demons and Army of Scorched Earth articles from the Rifter. On the Palladium Store, After the Bomb Bonus Edition says:>72 pages of “bonus” material includes the original After the Bomb® sourcebook and Yucatan Adventures from the old Game Shield.Nightbane, Splicers, Ninjas & Superspies, Palladium Fantasy, Heroes Unlimited; these all have hardcover versions that apparently contain bonus material taken from the Rifter, but does anybody know what said material is? It'd be nice to know that so I can update 1d6chan.
>>94667984Oh christ, I had no idea.Might need to check threads on the palladium forums, surely someone there has talked about the differences.
>>94666721Sure, here you go. ;) Okay, that's a satire of Morkie Borgie, I'll post some real images next.
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>>94668987And one of the funkiest pieces of Palladium art I've ever seen: motorcycle-centaurs!
>>94668989Okay, that should be enough. Thanks for updating 1d6chan, anon.
>>94668158The Palladium Forums seem to be either half-dead or completely gutted in the name of censorship, so I can't make heads nor tails of it personally.I suppose asking at the PDF Share thread is an option, but I don't know that anons will understand instead of just pointing out the legitimate Rifts caches already present...Also, apparently the Heroes Unlimited hardcover *isn't* a "Bonus Edition", as its writeup on the Palladium Store insists that it's no different content-wise to the softcover HU 2e corebook.I do at least have Bonus Edition Splicers and After the bomb on the way from Ebay, being in Australia means I can't buy from Palladium's store directly, but neither of those will hit my shores until the end of January at the earliest...>>94668995Thanks for trying to help, anon! I've been doing what I can to flesh out pages for Rifts, Palladium Fantasy, Splicers, and Nightbane, and I'd love if I could get some more help.
>>94669071All I know is that the bonus edition of RMB included the sketch preview Parkinson did for the original Rifts cover, and it's awesome.
>>94669071the forums got gutted in the name of "tolerance" and "inclusivity" and other stuff. or so I vaguely remember from what little I saw of it. either way its dead and censored and most on the forum are your typical plebbit s0i in mindset so you'd probably get a lecture trying to get all this information together or something. you're better off going to actual rifts reddit over the offical forums at this point.
>>94669110>the forums got guttedWas this around the time Sean took over operations, or earlier?
>>94669789Way beforeThe mods were put in place that are full tumblar, retard being the first word banned (fag always was) .When I left it was hard to have a pro-CS thread without being bombarded with you are a nazi claims. Kitsuma, troon with illusions of grandureSubjecator, autistic fat 0 to 100 ban hammer dropperRatty(cant remember his full handel) mod power abuses including editing posts and abuse like 96 hour bans on people hed call out and challenge to an argument, then ban and mock for not responding Ect.It all came after the crisis of treachery(lord koke stealing money discovered), and marryanne, kevins ex wife leaving completely. Old posts started being wiped out and small edits made to posts by board heavyweights to not ban them.Rpg dot net levels of "unity or banned" shit
>>94667792Kek they even used the same cover art for the Rifter and Shadows of Light. Good catch. I can’t remember the book, maybe core, but Nightbane also had Wampiers. Living vampires that had nothing to do with Vampier Intelligences. Strength wise they were similar to werewolves etc
Nightbane art anon, could you maybe share the art for the Guardians (solar powered greys meets angels) and the Athanatos (shape-shifting half-angels) too?>>94672212Wampyrs were in the corebook, yeah, and they were basically secondary vampire spawnings gone awry, so you got a weaker vampire that was free of the Intelligence's control and which could thus use its powers to fight evil.This was before the World Book 1: Vampire Kingdoms: Revised & Updated Edition made its big Buffy-inspired "vampires are demons that stole the memories of the corpses they are inhabiting" retcons.
>>94672308>Vampire Kingdoms: Revised & Updated Edition made its big Buffy-inspired "vampires are demons that stole the memories of the corpses they are inhabiting" retcons.Shit, what? They were different before?
>>94672580Yeah, in the original iteration, which was one of the first Rifts book I had, vampires were just humans corrupted by the influence of the Vampire Intelligence. They were undead, but not demonic. The Revised & Expanded version plays around with that lore, adding things like Master Vampires turning into demons and shit. I haven't sat down and read the two side by side, but maybe somebody else has and can elaborate.
Sea Titans are better men as all can see from their stats and supernatural nature. Looking at related skill selection they are able to take any skill from a category (except Medical which is limited to Paramedic and First Aid). This can’t be due to their intelligence which is a standard human 3D6. If you look at the other OCC of the New Navy you can see they can select practically any as well. Why? Because they’re working from a Golden Age knowledge base along with educational expectations. This means the populations of Refuge and Salvation Base are some of the most learned on Rifts Earth!
>>94670111This happened to giantitp forums too. There was a big push to fuck up all traditional forums maybe a decade or so ago. Places that used to be pretty good places to discuss things got gutted, speech got sanctioned with no clear line in the sand other than mod whims. It's honestly how I found my way to 4chan, I was searching for a place that would let me geek out without tripping on imaginary lines
>>94674232gitp was like that before it had a single moderator besides the owner lmao
>>94672580>>94673133I'm looking at the old Vampire Kingdoms now.Master Vampire chooses to join a vampire intelligence and has his humanity wiped out to become an inhuman lifeform that just appears human.Secondary Vampires say that all Rifts Undead lose their memories, but Secondary Vampires retain more than usual, hence they tend to kill their friends/loved ones because they have loose memories about these people but don't necessarily remember who they actually are. Only the truly heroic (PC) vampires maintain enough memories to not go full evil.Wild Vampires it says are "mentally retarded" vampires, either created due to something going wrong during the transformation process or driven that way from going so long without feeding.As opposed to the Doc Reid/Revised version saying the human dies the moment he's changed, and the shard of the vampire intelligence puppeting their body has some memories.
>>94653611I was just reading Palladium 1e, and I want to ask something about the rules. On Armour Rating, it says that the attacker must roll higher than the defender's armour rating to penetrate the armour and inflict physical damage to the defender.Does that mean if you go past the AR, you deal full damage, or does the armor still block damage and have a little bit of damage to the HP?For example, the AR is 6 and I dealt 8 damage. Do you deal the full 8 damage or do you still have to reduce the damage by 6?
>>94675668You’re conflating attack rolls and damage rolls regarding AR. If your attack roll is a success, meaning you hit what you’re attacking, you compare that number to the AR value. If it’s equal to or less then you hit the armor. If it’s higher your attack bypasses armor. Roll damage. Apply to armor or person. Armor in Palladium doesn’t reduce damage normally, but acts as sacrificial hit points. That’s why shields and armor have a SDC amount. Natural AR and vehicle AR is different. With does if you fail to get past the AR it negates damage entirely. I want to say in Fantasy there is alchemical, ie very rare, armor that does have a damage reduction effect in addition to SDC and AR.
>>94675668The 6 in your example means you have to roll higher than 6 on the d20 attack roll to hit and do full damage. The 6 does NOT reduce damage by 6 points. AR is like AC in D&D. It's not used in Rifts.
>>94677453>It's not used in Rifts.It is though. See Cyber Knights
>>94677453>>94677627Also used in armor like the plain clothes armor from ngr
>>94665263I haven’t tried it myself or given it too much thought in the past about lowering the conversion between MDC and SDC, but now that you mention this I think this could work great for vehicles if you add a layer to it. Like it always bothered me that you can have a laser tank and its main weapon does like 1D6x10mdc and some dude with a pulse laser rifle does the same exact damage. I’d use that house rule that personal scale weapons and supernatural creatures do the 10 SDC = 1 MDC, but for vehicles and large supernatural creatures (dragons, giants, alien intelligences, gods, etc) their conversion is the regular 100 SDC = 1 MDC
Can any anon share the Scrap Zombie artwork from Rifts Chaos Earth: Resurrection? I'm sure it'd be useful for 1d6chan somewhere...
>>94679128I feel like I would house rule that to say that the AR is if the shooter knows it's protective and that if the shooter does not know and shoots a covered spot like the torso then it should automatically hit the armor. I think that makes things a bit fair since this is a one-hit-and-die scenario.
>>94668989Holy you weren't kidding. It's almost horrific!
>>94670111>KitsumaThere is always one on a board.
>>94683764oh every time on a forum is some fox wanna be troon who thinks they are authority and their autism is the end all be all for anything. the moment I see a fox themed kitsuna type I almost always know its gonna be a drama troon of the highest order that cant function without its daily multiple meltdowns. and for some reason they are usually almost always a mod or person of authority on the site as if the board thinks a sperg like that is a good idea for some reason.
>>94681257There are already rules if you want to shoot someone in the head though and AR 19/20 is pretty high. A regular attack getting past that is one of those “freak occurrences” that is in line with the intended intent of the armor.
How hard would it be to create Host Armors in Splicers based on the Lemurian bio-armors from Rifts?
>>94686671Not very hard. Like there are bits and pieces you can pick that are like the Lemurian armors and you can just apply them to the host armors.
>>94686993>>94686671I converted some to splicers I'll post it after I convert it to pdf or something.
>>94681144Kevin Long is my favorite artist ever.
Considering running a mini-campaign about a NEMA unit who have to team up with some first-gen D-Bees to stop the Black Obelisk. What would be interesting D-Bees to include?
>>94694300I don't know much about Chaos Earth besides the core book. Are undead MDC in it? Are they all dummies because Kevin seems to gravitate to the Return of the Living Dead where the zombies are sometimes stupid but mostly demonically evil.
>>94695603The Zombies of the Black Obelisk are divided into two categories; SDC "Chaos Zombies", which are the basic Romero-esque mindless shamblers, and MDC "Scrap Zombies", which are armored necroborgs created for a number of specialized roles in the horde, though most of them aren't THAT much smarter than the Chaos Zombies.
>>94683989I think its that they get in by always being online, no real life to get in the way. So when you think of a moderator an autistic always on person who grasps the rules to a t is an easy pick. But they us the rules to push their bs then if you boot them, their 5 online troon friends make 5 accounts each and 25 people on a 200 (active people) person board are suddenly crying fowl.Then they bring in their own and cannibalise the whole site.Looks like her angel fire level site is still up if you want to see some power creep extreme bs remove the spaceskitsunesden. xyz/palladium. htm
>>94696210Do you think psyscape/nxla zombies are a bigger threat? I know they are diffrent aettings but nxla is rumored to be a leser old one. So it could be anywhere.Obviously nxla is nearly unbeatable but his zombies i mean.
>>94697209Nxla for reference I dont think its an old one, no power word is nxla in the diabolist or summoners powers
>>94684064Yes it's just-just that I have had so, so many players have PP explosion when rolling their characters in my splicer game. I watch the dice. These people had little contact with eachother. I was going to the roll-what-you-get-and-don't-get-upset. 30+ for everyone one of them. Add that inbuilt bio-weapons get the PP bonus and these fucks can do brainsurgery with scalpel taped to a football from 30 yards away. I have forgotten what it's like when players miss. I have to bend the rules just to not have it be a phenomenal slaughter. I've resorted to throwing dinosaurs and having them practice guerilla tactics just for them to survive. Pick related actually happened in my campaign.
>>94686671There is a good chance that all the bio-armors and most of the other stuff in the Lemuria book were originally intended for an aquatic focused Splicer's book before Splicers was cancelled.
>>94690819>>94686671https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ldh6no6x5TtuStO2UEkemV5Qc6o4Kq1Wd5J0taU4A1g/edit?usp=sharingIt's a conversion of the dolphin suit, tiger fish mount, snake suit, and so on. The lemurian biosuits are supposed to have spells so I gave them mods sand boosted their MDC to what would be average.
>>94699664I forgot to mention. I thought it better to haven them carry a trident, laser gun, and a chig or two as their standard equipment.
>>94700236>>94701517Those are straight up combat cyborgs!
>>94699292You using the penalties on them correctly? If they’re shooting a burst any WP bonus is cut in half, unless they’re standing stock still their roll is -6, and another -1 if the target is moving
I have been wanting to use some sort of virtual tabletop software for combat in my rifts game but it is a challenge to find battlemaps or content, anyone else got any ideas here?
>>94703212>mantis blade>>94703272There needs to be more master psychics with mom implants imo>>94703277>Operation Phoenix
Iron Zombies > Scrap Zombies
Dead game
>>94709174Werejaugaurs are not as cool in the game as this illustration portrays!
>>94704856>When they rolled 20 for aim and 1 in demolitions
>>94713515Can't be dead if I'm playing it.Are you just going around to every thread doing this?
>>94713515>campaign session was 3 friday ago and we played for 5 hourswell if thats what dead means I guess its dead. so it goes
>>94713515So dead....still making books, 3rd party spin offs, a constant thread, im playing tomarrow....yeah totally dead
>Sea Titans don’t need to breathe or eat Think of the spit roast potential!
I just gotta know; do the Wolverine People from the Sovietski world book give anybody else flashbacks to Wolverine & Sabertooth from Marvel Comics? Already loaded the picture up at >>94669071
>>94718246Not personally but im not a big comic book person.
Trying to extract all the cool monster art from the Rifts Bestiary 1, but my image manipulation skills are rudimentary at best. Can any anon help me by merging these two halves of the Cerebro-Scrambler's artwork? Here's part 1...
>>94721615And this is part 2.
>>94721615>>94721623I have many years experience in MSPaint.The CS seems like one of those false hydra enemies where it's more of a neat omnious threat you discover by finding its path of victims. When you face it head on it's not going to be very tough against any PC team that isn't travelling alone. That is at least if one fo them is an MoA or as I like to call them: The chest hair classes.
Honest question, anons, would it be an overreaction to add an article on the Ee-bee Gee-bees to 1d6chan? For context, these Chinese bootleg Ewok-looking things are actually semi-sapient, pack-hunting *spiders* that have come to semi-specialize in preying on humans and humanoids by exploiting the fact that they look and sound so cute... up until they throw you to the ground, glue you there with webbing, and start eating you alive. They even give off pheromones that make most humanoids and even animals more docile and happy in their presence.>>94721726Much obliged, anon!
>>94721726A Cerebro-Scrambler is just a big floaty playful octopus that can EMP electronics and has a handful of minor psychic powers. They like non-evil humanoids even
>>94721764I feel like they only need an entry if you're talking in general about the spider people of Palladium if which there are many.That said their name makes them the most fun.
For secondary skill selection do you like to use the updated rules from Ultimate or the older way of using Related skill choices without the bonuses?
Quick question; I know that Dead Reign has kid-specific OCCs in one of its splats, but are there rules for playing kid characters in any other Palladium books?
>>94721764I'd say go for it. I think it's a good example of when Paladium makes a parody of something.
>>94724916I like the updated rules just because it gives me the chance to take USELESS STUPID SKILLS like holistic medicine or brewing. That way I can have my Juicer dude bro but also can knit or an Archangel that is a total coffee snob.
>>94725019I want to say off hand there’s probably rules in the Rifter for it, but in general all player characters have the same base “adult” attribute rollsFor some games, like System Failure, that have a starting time there is a set age range
Looking for players for a Savage Worlds Rifts Game. Starting date is Friday 17th of January at 7.30pm EST. I'm new to DMing Savage Worlds so we will be learning the rules together. Game will be every fortnightWe will be playing on Roll20. If you are interested join the Discord group. https://discord.gg/cVR35gacCampaign start will be the players are hired as mercenaries to take back a town in North America from Brodkil and demons. Power level for the game will be high so any and all character concepts considered.
>>94724916I remove restrictions on Secondary Skills as long as it fits thee RP.
>>94725019I think Nightbane's Survival Guide has rules for playing a kid nightbane.Which given there are also rules for playing a magical girl, it's kind of funny.If it's not in the survival guide, then the rifter Survival Guide canonized has it.
>>94726617I’d give it a go except I work nights
>>94727176That sucks, if we change the time I will let you know here.
the True Inca RCC has various psychic powers depending on what patron deity they descend from, but doesn’t list what level (minor, major, master) save they use against psychic abilities. Since base ISP is 2D4x10+ME is it fair to assume they’re Master Psychics?
>>94727176>I work nights"Work nights", sure, you fucking vampires are all getting the stake!- Doc Reid
>>94731002Doc “my penis is also a stake” Reid
>>94730409Id say master with all the super psi powers.Major if it's a bit to powerful save wise for your campaign
>>94725019In Rifts, extrapolating from a spell effect, those under 13yo have no attack bonuses and half the usual number of attacks. Those 1-5yo have no combatant skills or attacks at all. Humans under 1yo are completely helpless!Of course if the baby is a juicer it might be different
>Finally put on my big boy pants and roll a High Magus>Finally read the "I have a ley line in my pocket" spellDear god, this class is ridiculous assuming you never have to nuke something smaller than a city block.Sure it can never learn low level spells, but having every 11+ invocation is a game changer for any situation.
>>94734855Totally forgot Minor/Major psychics have the same save of 12. Given that they can continue to acquire psychic powers as they level up I’m going to agree they should get the Master save of 10.
>>9473839510 save with no bonuses is a 50% save rate, its a huge bonus, if you are the gm id explain to the player if it becomes impossible to hit them youll have to nerf them or the rest of the pc's will have to hard a challenge, likely
Honest question; was there ever a netbook or any other kind of project exploring what Japan might look like post Dark Day in Nightbane? Thinking of running a Nightbane campaign set in Tokyo and looking for ideas on what the Japan of Nightbane might look like.
>>94740290The save is on a demigod so overpowered isn’t unexpected
>>94730409>Look at these guys. They are my top umbrella guys. Look at them blonde cc king the sun so good. I could become a vampire and not a thing would change because my guys are so good at blocking that sun.
>>94740814All nightspawn books are set in the usaId treat Japan alot like shadowrun japan. Extreme dishonor for being changed, government camps for the "infected". Same angel's underground, yakuza actively controlled by the night princes, fewer guns, more swords.
>>94741789I hear ya, the true demigod id say is actually a tad weaker than them.Though the godling is as always vastly more powerful
>>94741918Godlings do have slightly beefier stats, but their real strength is the versatility in power (and skill) selection. True Inca are stronger than regular Demigods as you said, but Demigods can select an OCC/RCC which can have crazy potential. Have to mention Sea Titans. They generally don't have any magic, but they have similar attributes and natural powers compared to these beings plus extra ISP if psychic. Also, Sea Titans require fewer XP compared to those guys. Oh, lastly, all the Godlings and Demigods still need to breathe and eat. Which is an exploitable weakness
>>94742076The most powerful aspect of a godling to my mind is the ability to choose TWO CASTER occsSo temporal mage and necromancer Spacial mage and techno wizardOr the most powerful really temporal mage and shifterBe a combat monster and temporal warrior and mystic knight. Sea titans sre rugged for sure but on power scale the godling is insane at even level 1
>>94742220I've got to say, I'm never really understood the difference between Temporal Mage (Wizard?) and Shifter all that well. Both wizards seem like they just specialize in traveling between dimensions. Wouldn't you expect a class called "Temporal (X)" to be good at manipulating TIME?
>>94742337A shifter is a summoner, dimensional traveler with an easy way home if shit goes badA temporal wizard is a master of time magic that only paradox mages and temporal wizard/warrior/raiders generally can learnBotb cast normal magic too. Temporal magic is uber powerful for creative players. Shifters cast nearly as well as a LLW but their communication portal, enslavement, and near witch like pacts make them 3 casters in one.Rifts england has 2 really good magics in it worth all the money even if it wasn't great art, a fun setting and like the only book with dimensional plants that are actual cool.Herbal magic and temporal magic make the book worth it, cant recommend it enough.
>>94742366The intrigue of Camelot is also worth a read even if it never got followed up Had some cool RCC as well like the bug that could transform into different utility forms or the Star Child
>>94742366What's a Paradox Mage?
>>94742500Native American temporal mage
>>94742500A juicer mage? What Prosek's OCC when you combine the lore?
>>94742731In my games Prosek is an Astral Lord
>>94742731>Prosek's OCCHERO OF THE COALITION!
For a hypothetical Nightbane: Japan, what would be a better way to handle hengeyokai - the iconic shapeshifting animals like kitsunes, tanuki, nekomata,etc? A brand new local supernatural race, or just a local identity for nightbane with animal morphuses?
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>>94745960Wow thata hella fuzzy, cant seem to get a better on sorry
>>94745972It's not fuzzy, but if you're browsing 4chan on mobile it opens a smaller version of the image. Click the arrow and click open original image to make it so you can see it at full size.
>>94745478What intent do you have in mind for them?
>>94745960>power of accurate history recollectionSounds like a super nerd! Getting the magic power to be a know it all! History doesn't shoot the missiles Walk-With-Rift-Lines!
>>94745478Sure. The only thoughts I have to contribute to that is that animal like spirits like the tengu have different appearances based on their standing, that bakanekos are a thing, and that filth and bug like monsters are associated with the underworld while mammals are usually not.To explain it another way from the Japanese lore point of view they would see a leprechaun as a nature spirit but fairies as demons. Leperchauns are just paranormal creatures but a fairy has bug wings and bugs are from he'll and thus a fire has limbs of a he'll creature and thus must be a sort of demon.Another point I'm sure you know of this that the Japanese love the paranormal and urban legends. If it's weird they will make a rumor about it. I think a nightmare character could just act normal and they would make up a story about "the scratchy man made of belts who keeps asking where the nearest Arbies is in poor English"
Why does KS hate shields? It’s kind of shitty shields can only “block” ranged attacks with a penalty (bullets/energy -8; thrown objects -3). People IRL don’t need to roll to put a shield between them and bullets! In fact I don’t think you can even block melee attacks with a shield without a roll to parry. If it’s 1v1 I think using a shield to soak damage should be automatic. Fucker is swinging on me? I’m gonna put my shield between me and them. Shit, I’m getting shot at? Let me put my shield in the direction of fire. You want to be clever and shoot me where my shield doesn’t cover? Do a called shot, bitch!
>>94751079>Why does he hate shieldsBecause the only player in his group who liked shields was Coake's player.Notice how early shields could block ranged attacks, and later shields some books say they can and others say they can't.Shields don't even have a higher parry bonus than any other weapon, and cost a proficiency to use properly, so they're just bad.At my table shields automatically absorb damage for you unless a called shot says otherwise, or if you have Shield Prof (which we boosted the parry bonus by +3) they can be used to parry attacks. Successful parry negates the shield from taking damage, but unsuccessful parry means you take damage.We also adjusted MD/MDC numbers across the board though because otherwise the bloat is a bit much.
Anyone knows the font used in the books?
>>94751543You are a scholar and gentleman, sir or madam. Like you look through the psi or magic and there’s a body force fold and shield powers. The body glove usually starts at like 10 mdc per level and the shield has like 60 mdc which makes it equivalent to the previous power at 6th level. A no brainer to pick then until you realize all the hurdles that shields have. I’m gonna rule it like you do. In fact since it’s a power I’d even rule you don’t take any penalties for using it without the skill. Now that I think about it what even are the penalties for no skill use of ancient weapons? I’m glad Ultimate gave the cyber knight a power boost
Does anyone know if any Rifts books have necromantic bionics or implants?
>>94753663Nothing official, but the Rifter #13 has the Necro-Tech; a Techno-Wizard/Necromancer hybrid who creates magical bionics out of necromantically animated undead bodyparts.Nightbane 3: Through the Glass Darkly also has the Cybermage, a techno-wizard analogue who creates magical items by meshing flesh with machinery, although the mechanics kind of suck.https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Cybermage
>>94753663Necromancers can already kinda do that. Plus there are the hell weapons
>>94753748Nice, thank you very much.
>>94751543>We also adjusted MD/MDC numbers across the board though because otherwise the bloat is a bit muchI adjust power armor down but boost the fuck out of full robots.If a power armor suit is 1/3 the cost, or less, smaller faster ect. Why is the mdc so much lower than a big boy robot. Super samas 490 main body vs skull smasher 990Super sam 10ft 1 man crew. Smasher 28ft 5 man crew.Always boosting robots mdc otherwise especially older robots are to weak, no reason to jepordize 5 dudes vs 1 . And if a pc has a robot they are basically so glass cannon it ruins the feel of wading into combat as a behemoth
>>94750388It's even worse. He has the power to be an elitist nerd, who can only knows everything about his subject matter so he can be smug and condescending to people who don't know it.
>>94754331>adjust power armor downI don't use Rifts earth as written so I tend to not need to do that.Triax/Titan tier equipment is the equivalent of artifact magic for my games to explain the ridiculous number bloat.I do step down some Coalition stuff though, given I feel like it undermines the setting when they are superior technologically to 85% of the planet and the most of the other 15% has no beef with them.
>>94754928I mainly lift robots,
>>94755165It’s actually kind of hard to lift most things that are multiple tons in rifts even with supernatural strength or being a giant robot
>>94757473The dynamax from ngr1 (my childhood favorite robot) has ps 50 pic related so 100 times 50, 5,000 or 2.5tons, now that means they cant lift themselves up at a low 12 tons, its on the lighter side of big robos
Anons, a quick question; the Millek's writeup in Between the Shadows says they cannot leave the Astral Plane except by using Astral Projection or Astral Transference. The problem is, these powers are written up exclusively from the perspective of being used by a human Athanatos or Guardian to travel from Earth to the Astral Plane.My kneejerk is that Milleks using Astral Projection create ghost-like projections on Earth, and Astral Transference physically transfers them to Earth until they switch back; does that make sense to anyone else?Also, can any anons hook me up with the art of the Millek, Tarantuloid and Necrophim from "Between the Shadows", or the Athanatos from "Shadows of Light"? Need that art for 1d6chan, and the PDFs I have are too low-grade to extract the images from...
>>94757590I griped in the last a dragon doesn’t have the strength to pick up another dragon and someone countered with an elephant can’t pick up another elephant which, yeah, I get, but it’s lame as hell when we’re dealing with supernatural creatures and sci-fi robots
>>94757590>>94757993Isn't there a picture of a pogtal giant doing wrestling moves to a dragon?You would think supernatural strength would allow pulling that off.
>>94757473>>94757590>>94757993>>94762526The key to playing Palladium Rifts is to ignore half the persnickety rules that don't make any sense. You'll have way more fun that way.
>>94751543The way I do it is that shields get a massive bonus to block(parry but the item takes damage) and shields can block ranged attacks. Shields also automatically block for certain body parts but its only really important for larger shields that block the torso and head(or legs) in use
How do YOU define Supernatural beings?Are they immediately supernatural if they have Supernatural PS or MDC?If so what about DBees or Titan Juicers?What about space alien races?
Anyone have a 1st ed Palladium monsters and animals PDF? I don't want to have go to home to my dad's and kevin fucked up 2nd ed like usual. (Like when he introduced new, worse typos into the 2nd ed book)I'm also trying to convert some 1st ed stuff to non-rifts systems, I might ask on that relevant tred. (It's r20 5e). Monsters are super easy but I think I'm going to have to convert all the spells by hand unless someone else did the work
>>94763212MDC & Supernatural Str is a big factor
>>94762526Only ancient dragons are super heavyHatchlings and young adults can still get chucked around
>>94762526An adult dragon weighs like 18 tons. You need a supernatural strength attribute of 360 to lift that (720 to carry it). A giant robot needs 180 strength to drag it along.
>>94752935>Now that I think about it what even are the penalties for no skill use of ancient weapons? Iirc, you get no bonuses besides what you would get as if it was normal hand to hand. I think in Heroes Unlimited it says it's the same as if you were using an improvised weapon.
>>94763212I define it as being magical or using PPE I. Some way.That pretty much excludes all psychics and aliens my thought is that aliens are normal, just from another part of space, and psychics are an advancement in humans.
>>94764096But is it defining?>>94765872I'm torn, I look at elves for example.Palladium Elves, when converted to Rifts Earth, are SDC with normal strength.Asgardian Elves, while not inherently magical, are clearly supernatural in every way as are most things in that book, but they also have Supernatural to all stats.Star Elves, while also not inherently magical, have similar stats to Asgardian Elves, but are not ALL supernatural, just Supernatural PS and MDC, but technically they're just space aliens not actually supernatural beings. Or should they be supernatural beings?
>>94765964I mean asgard is a magical place space is notWhat matters is context
>>94765964High Elves doesn’t say they are supernatural; just that they have stats similar to a demigod. Also, they can be a borg under O.C.C. choices.Since their regeneration is only hourly and they have no other otherworldly abilities besides Strength they are just a powerful debee like Star ElvesSupernatural Creatures, besides possibly having supernatural attributes, often have other abilities like magic or psychic powers naturally; melee turns quick regeneration; some weakness to mundane materials or types of attacks, etc To add to the confusion, some superheroes, when they come to Rifts are considered Supernatural Beings depending on what major powers (or O.C.C.) they were
Anons, if you could have any three Palladium splatbooks be created, what would they be?
>>94768875Dimension Book 09A book about Nightbane across the Multiverse to more properly build them into other settings.A book that resets Rifts Earth to back when there were only 400million people worldwide.
>>94769013>A book about Nightbane across the Multiverse to more properly build them into other settings.Never gonna happen, the current goal is to better separate settings so they can be licensed individually >A book that resets Rifts Earth to back when there were only 400million people worldwide.Thats up to the pc's to cause to happen....get to killing
>>94768875A proper Sol System World BookThe never delivered Atorian Empire bookPantheons of the Megaverse 2
>>94768875>Rifts Chi-Town>Rifts Lazlo>Rifts Hollow EarthAlso a Megaversal Rules core book which has all the basic rules for all Palladium games.
>>94768875A RIFTS sourcebook where I write a huge book full of my Glitterboy ideas, based on a town full of knightly Glitterboy lords located in Ohio. A few new Glitterboy related OCCs, new Glitterboy tech, etc. I'd even try to convince Uncle Kev to have limited edition books with chrome looking jackets
Okay I'm reading through Warlock spells in Palladium and I have to wonder did kevin EVER fucking playtest this shit? Wall of ICE has 1000 HP. Drought lets you raise the HP of an 80 F terrain to ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY DEGREES FOR EIGHT WEEKS.Diabolist feels like it's for a whole other game. I'm stealing these runes and the lore though, shit's sick. I'll make an NPC do shit related to it in front of a PC
>>94771683>Wall of ICE has 1000 HPPff, that's only 10 MDC in RIFTS.
>>94771194Are you the guy that did the Glitter Boy expansion in a “recent” Rifter? I would like to see a combination of Glitter Knight: cyber knight fused/using a glitter boy with a Psi-Boom Gun! Oh, yeah, in the Rifter there is an undead cyber knight that’s in a Glitter Boy that’s sorta like a Murder Wraith. Well, I want a live one that’s an OCC! Honorable mention to a book about Crazies! I just think they’re neat. Minor bullshit the Asian ones (Ninja Crazy and whatever the Chinese one is called) are less crazy
>>94772366No, that's Hotrod on the Palladium Forums. He made loose ideological groups of mercenary glitterboys. My idea is an actual city state of glitterboys with feudal overtones. OCCs would be stuff like Glitterboy lords, technowizards, Magus, etcI posted about them a few times. Glitterboy Houses/Clans, with inherited armor & political power
