Was original Nagash the worst model ever put out? I still remember it getting relentlessly laughed at right through the '90s and early '00s.
It certainly had that reputation when I played in the early 00's
>>94667409nah
>I still remember it getting relentlessly laughed at right through the '90s and early '00s.what's the point of making shit up like this?
>>94667409Worst Gary Morley sculpt certainly. Definitely not the worst GW miniature. Not even of that era. Plus, far more horrendous CAD shit has come out of the design studio in the last few years.Definitely not even close to the worst mini ever put out, the late 70's and early 80's were full of talentless sculptors trying to get that D&D money. For all that, there is charm in how silly it is.
>>94667409It looks okay for its generation with a more subdued colour scheme
Obligatory watching if you are gonna talk shit on Gary Morley.https://youtu.be/jLgWChbsB68?si=k5zO0tG_0HWfMoBe
>>94667569>>94667409He does look better when not painted fabulously, but yea, he was laughing stock, which was basically only because of the stupid head.
Its a huge model.
>>94667589Original version was rejected by marketing. Morley made a new, less grimey head, just a huge dumb skull, they'll have to reject this one as well and accept the original head, that's what he thought would happen.Also he just recently sold some of the casts of the OG head he still had lying around.
>>94667635Honestly the skull looks better than the giant pouty lips
>>94667606for you
Not even close
>>94667409
>>94667955So many choices
>>94667409I love it personally, warhammer figures were peak when they looked goofy as hell.
>>94667481What exactly does he have behind him?
>>94667409No, because it wasn't released in that time. It aged badly, but so did many of the models from this era.
>>94667946>>94667955>>94667965You seem not to understand the difference between sculpting quality and design. Try again.
>>94667481I looked up different angles of that model and I don't get it. Is he supposed to have a tree on his feet, or are those just super mutated hooves or some king of magical swirls?
I like it. Sure the face looks like a pervy octogenerian that sucked on a lemon but everything is cool imo
>>94667873In magnus' defense, that's an epic model and thus tiny.
>>94668106It still looks better than his modern incarnation too
>>94667409It's not even the worst Nagash model.
>>94667409im casting the original plastic rat ogres into the hat, these things look shit
>>94668067He's just meant to be standing on branches, with roots/vines creeping up around him
>>94668167great eastern slavic energy
>>94667409No, the Kyborgs were always shit.
>>94668766Or Obliterators, depending on where you lived!
>>94667544>far more horrendous CAD shit has come out of the design studio in the last few years.There’s a difference between bad design/execution and looking like literal shit
>>94667589>>94667569You guys are making him kinda cool to me
>>94668040a slugs body/foot.
>>94667409>>94667444>>94667544>>94667569I found out very late in my life that the original sculpt was not a skull and then management complained and we got the final version
>>94668052cope more
>>94667589>>94667635prefer the skull, the original makes him look like Fu Manchu which is frankly weird for an Egypt-lookin army the skull at least carries some of the Sauron look a few years before Peter Jackson decided what that wasto be honest I think what really kills it is the hat, the hat is stupid, it's like a goddamn cuckoo clock
>>94668226Not as bad as these atrocities
>>94667946Nowhere near the worst but the fact they don't have proper jump packs activates my autism in the worst way
>>94667409Dude got cheekbones like Cher
>>94667873Always in our hearts
>>94672793Wtf are you smoking these are gorgeous
>>94667965If you're bringing up modern models, there can be only one winner
>>94672940>gatling barrels in middle of chest>shits gorgeous brothey're trash, the armor sucks, the concept sucks, the rats are bucktooth stupid looking
>>94672964You suck, the trash is inside your head and your mother looks like the original rat ogre
>>94672972no u
>>94672963Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking with this one? I really hope it was an unfortunate case of the design team having to rush the model out the door for the codex, surely they didn't look at this and think people would like it
>>94667965I agree with suppressors and invaders sucking, but what's wrong with this one?
>>94672963This made the stilt sniper look good. But it's depressing how many of the contenders for the worst miniature ever are extremely recent.
>>94673004Do we know which sculpts are done by which people?I'm not asking for any specific reason. Just curious who did this one.
>>94672963This year, yeah that's probably it. Especially since they put out this guy shortly afterwards.
>>94673014I really like the stilt sniper but I can understand why people don't. You're right though, between Coteaz and most of the Blood Angels stuff there was a long stretch where it felt like every 40k release was absolute dogshit
>>94672963
>>94673010It's just a stupid fucking pose
>>94668226Cloud be worse.
>>94673420Let's not forget Brian nelsons destruction of the orc line
>>94667409there's a whole bunch of mid-late 2000s fanatic specialist games sculpts that are just total crap, badly sculpted, scaled weirdly, oddly shallow detail, and multi-part metals on top of it. Fanatic necromunda sculpts were some serious garbage, and a huge downgrade from the older necromunda sculpts, however I can't decide if the ratskins or the scavvies are the worst.
>>94667409This version of the eldar phantom titan is much worse. It's just completely hideous.
>>94673460i like the helmet options, they look cool
it's hard to describe how bad this model is, it's worse in person too
>>94672963yes,Coteaz is the worst model they've put out this side of the millenium.Hands down.
>>94672963>10/10 would conduct business withjokes aside, I would love 40k to be true scale. the argument about being able to recognize what's what is stupid. Historical wargames have solved this problem 50+ years ago while using even smaller scales
>>94674181I like it
>>94673961torn between what the fuck, Dave Andrews and heh, Revenant Chicken
>>94673961There's nothing wrong with it.
>>94673018Such a thing no longer exists. At least two sculptors are mandated to work on every miniature. Sometimes they would even take miniatures designed by different people, rip them apart and smash together the parts they liked, as happened with the dogshit Liche Dragon for TOW (the dragon and the howduh come from different projects, and it sure does show)
>>94675178I remember one of the designers crying on Twitter that he hates the end result
>>94675178Well at least dragon skeleton itself looks nice. Not wyrm-like old WHFB dragons and not like dragon with autism from AoS
>>94675178I forgot that abomination exists.
>>94675178>>94675372what is wrong with it?
>>94675178>At least two sculptors are mandated to work on every miniature.lol whut
>>94675158The textured surface and hard right angles are entirely at odds with all eldar models before and since. The feet and wings are especially fucked compared to the previous model.
>>94675427>right wing interferes with shape and pose, conflicting with howdah/saddle/pulpit >head crest on monster also breaks up own shapes and motion >tail spike is generic while rest is hyperegyptian >tactical rocks again That's before we even get into how retarded the howdah/saddle/pulpit design is
>>94675475I disagree vehemently, ribbed gigeresque eldar are the pinnacle of eldar design.
>>94675517Good thing you disagree with all the models ever.
>>94675427It's a fascinating model. You can never tell whether the howdah will crush the dragon or keel over and fall. And if you remove it, you're just left with a very lame and non-threatening dragon.
>>94675521I can't parse this, please take antipsychotics before you post.
>>94675275>looks niceIt's awful. Look at those fucking wings, the whole thing seams to be a dollar store toy
>>94675537>get btfo so hard you lose cognitive capacity lol cope esl
>>94675178>.>>94675372>>94675487>>94675533>>94675543It's still better than Coteaz.
>>94675257He didn't just cry on X, he left GW over it.
>>94675543>the whole thing seams to be a dollar store toyCommon issue for 90% of GW's centrepiece models
>>94675517Okay secondary
>>94675099>>94673961These things look like they're inside out, with detail that's supposed to be inset panel lines as meaningless raised greebles instead.
>>94675517You're right.
>>94675565Cortez isn't supposed to be the big centerpiece you show off.
>>94675719That may be, but it's still a dogshit model.
>>94673018I believe it's the same guy who is behind pic rel "female" inquisitor, nuSquats and the custard shieldcaptain with a shield. no idea who he is, but for years now (a full decade?) nuGW reeks of nepotism and feminism.
This ugly cunt
>>94667946The design could be better, but conceptually I kinda like the idea of flying Devastators. They're basically miniaturized close air support.
>>94675864I actually like that model more than I thought I would. The head is fucking terrible but giving an ordo xenos inquisitor high-tech power armour fits pretty well.removing the dragon from the chunky power fist also helps a bunch
>>94675864>I believeStopped reading.
>>9467418520 years ago if you submitted this as portfolio material to work at GW they'd have turned you away. It truly is a disgusting model
>>94673460The fact that you prefer the old look (like you've heard that the cool kids do) doesn't change that he did a great job.
I hate Vashtor so much. Ugliest model I've ever seen.
>>94676433This is fascinating. Post the prettiest model you've ever seen so that I could get better insight into your brain.
>>9467606640 years ago they turned away Jes Goodwin, so he had to work on his art and get better before they accepted him.
>>94676448How about I spread my cheeks so you can get a better insight into my ass*farts*
>>94675678>>94675517I would say this is more Beksinski-esque than Giger-esque.
>>94676459It's definitely Giger-esque, and, in fact, the painter (Kirill Kanaev) confirmed it.
>>94673018The only way we tend to find out these days is through GW staff crediting each other on social media>>94675864That Xenos Inquisitor was sculpted by Steven Buddle (confirmed on Insta by Connor Richardson, who painted the studio model). He's been with the studio for fucking ages, even worked on some stuff for the 54mm Inquisitor game and is now a lead designer
>>94676459stop insulting Beks like that, faglord
I never liked these. With a bad paint job they were horrendous.
>>94667409It's absolute SOUL and you are merely a NPC.
>>94676575Giger is one of the most famous and important artists of the 20th century.Beksinski is only known to internet edgelords and Poles.
>>94675936i forgot about this one, stupid fucking santa and his sleigh. this thing is a comedy piece: it's not just the futuristic sled led by wolves and being ridden by a guy in power armour, it's also the RIDICULOUS amount of wolf decorations. the cape, the head on the front, the wolf carving on the side, the wolves on the little shields, the wolf on the rear side, the wolves on his axe, the wolf on his shoulderpad, all the skulls, the wolf head next to the engine. fucking incredible.a million thanks to GW for nuking those 30k wolf heads and replacing them.
>>94676646please don't mind me, just nooticing things.
>>94667409Cringekino
>>94667409>Was original Nagash the worst model ever put out?No, coteaz is
I kinda like him. Nagash, that is. Yeah, his face is doofy, but that's part of the model's charm. A lot of old models were like that - and they were all the better for it! The models back then were just so cool.
>>94675456Post Duncan GW is mandating all creatives be faceless as they don’t want people using the internet to leverage salary during pay negotiations, where people can just buy STLs and watch content made by creatives and the creative can make more than the 35k they pay staff artist.
>>9467645140 years ago didn’t they have to beg Trish Cardin to join the team because her jewelry working experience made her the only sculptor who really knew how to cast in metal
>>94675517She's ribbed for your pleasure.
>>94676795>this thing is a comedy pieceIt is unintentionally funny, but is not badly sculpted in any way, shape or form. It's actually quite wonderful.
>>94677071That sounds like a huge crock of shit because Bryan Ansell, the founder of Citadel, was by his very trade a caster.
>>94676451Speaking of Jes, he must be close to retirement age, but I think he is still at the studio. Is he still the main design guy/overseer for 40K? When he did the official Warhammer podcasts he said he was. Darren Latham is listed as Lead Miniatures Designer on his IG, so I am assuming he's like second in charge, if Jes is still there? Or is Latham number one now?Also I'd imagine there is a different creative lead for the Age of Sigmar minis, so many miniatures and the ranges are stylistically pretty different. Also I think especially this year AOS sculpts have been mogging the 40K stuff hard.
>>94667946There is definitely something off about them but I'm not sure if I can name what is it exactly. Is that the poses feel somehow very stiff and the guns are needlesly large. I mean the whole flying marines idea is pretty stupid I agree, but if you really want to go that way what would you do to improve this design?
The old metal possessed are something else
>>94678783Remove the armour and axes and it's a typical night at a Nottingham disco in the 90's
>>94678699Jes just does what he wants to, namely all things Eldar. Latham is number one. Seb Perbet is the AoS creative lead.
>>94678970Who was number one before Latham? Is he to blame for the current releases or someone else. I know the studio works with multiple years in advance, so like the stuff we got this year was made couple of years ago. But is Latham's leadership to blame for stuff like the new Coteaz, or the guy who was in charge before him?
>>94668766I like these more than the newer ones. They all suck thoughever
instagram.com/p/CWApWi4MwvS/?img_index=5
>>94681494
>>94679976Really? The newer ones are much better. Even when they look like they are from Dark Eldar.
>>94681496
>>94673420What are you talking about? They look good!
>>94681501Thats a good conversion.
>>94675864That model looks good though. Bitch.
>>94677696doesn't mean he was any good at iteverybody knows a shit tradesman
>>94681508imagine the smelle
>>94676319A great job at what? destroying whfb? wow so great
>>94675958Conceptually how would firing a gun with massive recoil work when flying?
>>94678970Explains AOS having good sculpts, seb himself was one of the best
>>94681508Lol lmao
>>94681645Milk and herbs?>>94683630Good modular build, easy convertable and not too much details to do.
>>94683657I still like the older minotaurs, they had a certain charm to them.
>>94673460Brian Nelson IS orcs, retard
>>94684687Lmao retardKev Adams and Alan Perry are greenskinsNelson killed orcs like the other tards that "refreshed" better lines with new shittier sculptsPost his best orc and compare a average perry one, or his best goblin and compare a Kev Adams oneWHFB died because they got rid of the older far better sculpts and replaced them with absolute shit new miniatures and where getting absolutely mogged by 40k
>>94683657Anon just look at the middle ones foot
>>94673961I was there when the 3rd Ed Eldar titans were released. It was a WTF moment. They were a complete downgrade.Nagash is better than these atrocities.
>>94684043The Trish Carden minotaurs mog the new plastics. The plastics have these weird blobs of muscle bulging out of them. They are legit bad sculpts.
>>94684858Something tells me Jes Godwin still needs regular therapy sessions.
>>94667409I prefer it over the modern model. Has an cartoon villain look to it.
>>94684043I like both of them. The newer ones arent bad either. I just see them as different kinds.Old metal = classic minotaur, hollywood movie/theatre costumeNew plastic = Beastmen minotaursSigma = beast ogryns
>>94673460Nah, I love these niggas like you wouldn't believe
>>94687580This. It's fucking nagash, he doesn't need to pretend to be cool some like emo helf he's completely sincere.
>>94668167i love quasi-nude models, however>the hands are 3x the size they need to be>massive shoulders>her peduna is massive and unbalanced in proportion>hair is not obeying what the model's pose is doing>face like ruth bader ginsburgyeah, i'm going to go buy a Nagash now as a form of Eyebleach.
>>94690712>i'm going to go buy a Nagash nowFunnily, both Nagash and Kruellagh were sculpted by Gary Morley
>>94690959yeah, but one is better....
>>94667409>the worst model ever put out?lollmao even
>>94667409I think it is a matter of taste, but I'll be honest.At least that model is stable. The current plastic Nagash looks like it could fall to pieces of a sleeve grazes and gets caught on it or one speedbump away from some plastic pieces snapping.
>>94689100Looks dumb as fuck, but glad you posted a armoured gloved one as he can't sculpt for shit and the more covered up the better
>>94691243These are pretty good if you trim the helmet and do a weapon swap
Hail centurion!
>>94695230How is it any dumber than any other era of Warhammer Orc? Don't just state, explain>as he can't sculpt for shit Obviously silly thing to say
>>94695344Best model in GW history.
>>94691243They look fantastic
>>94695232>they look good if you change their designyeah, otherwise they're just a way to detect retarded faggot>>94695676beep beep beep
>>94684043My first time seeing these. I like these quite alot and would say they could hold up today. >>94681500I like the obliterators however these guys have something about them that makes me miss the termie ones. Not sure why that is, as the termie ones dont make sense as being tech marines. When I first saw these I assumed they were new mini hell brutes. >>94678783I think that possessed are best when you have them being DIY with optional add on sprues. Other than the one in the middle and the bottom right, I don’t really care for these. >>94677673It just has a stupid design. The detail is fine but it’s so stupid to make a space sleigh. Completely out of tone with the rest of the line’s aesthetic. >>94676877Absolute dogshit. I will excusesome of the older models because of age but this just looks lazy. It looks like a literal stormcast with CAD designs placed onto it in a digital modeling software. >>94676646Not a fan of these. They work for the eldar because the eldar are supposed to have the slender look to everything they own. Even their “heavy” equipment looks like it can float while the Imperium should maintain a blend of WW1, cyber punk and diesel caterpillar design. Especially for the imperial guard who are regular soldiers instead of the warrior monks of the Space Marines. >>94676487Amazing model that acts as a canvas for genuine talent.>>94675864Barely better than the Sigmar reskinned inquisitor. >>94675475I love this model and want it. I can tell it’s old but it holds up. >>94675178I hate how out of place this model looks. The wings shouldn’t be on this thing. It should be a skeletal croc. The basket the guy is sitting in also looks out of place. What the fuck is it supposed to be made of? Ceramic? I also remember the artist had a fucking bitch fest on his insta story when people said they disliked this model. He even was @ing people on his posts who talked shit. Genuinely one of my favorite Table Top Spergouts I have ever seen.
>>94673933I dislike these. This comes from my favorite era of GW but the minis are just bleh. >>94673019Not terrible but not good. The fake smoke is retarded. >>94672793Does not look like a real skaven mini. Too busy and something seems off. Makes me think of magic the gathering or warcraft done by a chinese fiverr artist.>>94668812>>94668766So I like both however the older ones are very much of their era. If you compare them to things today they fall short.>94668226Absolute dogshit. The joint being open for the arm is the pathetic. When the push fit version for Island of Blood looks better you know you fucked up.>>94668251>>94667481Lmao what the fuck is even going on here>>94668167I like it just because of how unapologetically sexual she is. It’s very 1990’s female wrestler in BDSM/Heavy metal attire and I am here for it.
>>94695989You're either lying or you have the worst case of false memory I've ever seen. The sculptor for lyche dragon called the model shit, said the company destroyed his sculpt by meddling and quit.
>>94696017They have their charm. But Obliterators look like as if they had no idea how to translate the concept. Buy a Terminator than Green Stuff them with weapons is a bettier option.
>>94667409Here's your Lahmian charmer, bro
>>94696101The dragon itself was a second sculptor. The basket had it’s own unique sculptor and he threw a fit on instagram over it. It was his first model for GW.
>>94696017>Lmao what the fuck is even going on hereI will say, it's one that *could* work, if you gave it a very vibrant paint job to clearly distinguish between the different elements. But yeah, the sculpt itself is really not very readable at all
>>94699543>guys hear me out
>>94701709fuck this cartoon is old, I forgot the capital ship had legs
>>94667946>>94667955>>94667965I'm just impressed it took this many posts for the Primaris seething to begin...>>94691243...and THIS long for the AOS seething, holy shit. /tg/ you're slipping, used to be the boogeymen would have come out post one and gotten a cavalcade of "FPBP"s!>>94672793Warmahordes lookin ass
>>94678970Based Jes still keeping the dawgs fed after all these years
>>94675178>>94675427>>94675533The Howdah looks like it was supposed to be a BSB heavy chariot or something, as it stands now it looks like it'd topple over if the dragon lurched forward a little too fast. I guess you could have it sit right on the dragon spikes but that'd look just as dumb.
>>94675864Put a different head on and it's fine
>>94673961>>94675099I'll never understand how, when it came to 3rd ed Eldar, the design team thought that what the smooth, sleek Eldar line needed was some stealth Necron shit.Less pejoratively, I wonder if what they were aiming for was something like the Banshees in the DoW3 trailer, but if so they failed horrendously.
>>94696017>very 1990’s female wrestler in BDSM/Heavy metal attirebut compare it to the artwork were she is this giger bio-mechanical succubus and Morley has gone off on one again.
>>94699543
>>94702067Is that meant to be Kruellagh? I can't find it in the Codex, and it's not used in the WD article from when she released
>>94695344Prob cos the head is half the height of the mini? And 1/2 the head is the upper lip, looks absolutely fucking retarded + Exaggerated claw hands, squinty eyes, every orc standing at the half squat, it's pure shit
>>94673933All the minis put out by Fanatic that you refer to were done by trainees.
>>94683561If the A10 Warthog can manage it with Cold War-era technology I'm sure making it workable with flying power armors is achievable within the next 38,000 years.
>>94702743>Prob cos the head is half the height of the mini?>And 1/2 the head is the upper lip>squinty eyes>every orc standing at the half squatYou do realise that all applies to Alan Perry's Orc sculpts too, right? The divergence is just that the Perry sculpts put those features onto hunchbacked humanoids, whereas the Nelson sculpts go for more of a primate body
>>94702743You realize it's an orc and not a human right?
Probably the stupidest looking model I have ever seen, especially with the ridiculous proportions and the massive Jew noseWhat was Games Workshop thinking with this? Glad Total War Warhammer upgraded her look massively.
>>94690959Every single coombrain that got a copy of that model painted her as naked.
>>94703478The story goes that she was sculpted to be naked, the senior execs hated it because this was squarely in the 'we want little Timmy's pocket money' era of GW marketing, but Morley was friends with basically everyone so he was able to leverage that into getting it released on the proviso that the official paintjob put her in a bodysuit
>>94702247
>>94703413she has the face of a giraffe and saggy tits.
>>94703413Ah, yes, the Barbara Streisand fairy
>>94667409Karen The Large Fries Marauder is in my personal top 5. No McDonalds is safe from her marauding.
>>94703495Looking at possible inspiration material for the design also supports this.
>>94667409SOUL
>>94667481
>>94703033Aa10 weights over 10 tons and is travelling with that weight and momentum cushioning the recoil you spastic, maybe if it was a Cessna with the a10 gun mounted on the side you'd have a point
>>94703285Lie better idiot, we can see those heads aren't 1/2 the miniature and the top lip isn't 1/4 of it
>>94703344you do realize that isn't the first orc right?
>>94706379The marines there aren't exactly hauling around GAU-8 either.
>>94706656so why bring it up?
>>94703285>>94684802>>94673460Was the shift to the bent forward, butt out, "gorilla"-stance orks one of Nelson's creations? I don't know my sculpting history.
>>94667409>Was original Nagash the worst model ever put out?Looks like a lich pope to me.
>>94706408>we can see those heads aren't 1/2 the miniatureCan we indeed?> and the top lip isn't 1/4 of itWell of course not, and it's not the case with the Nelson Black Orc. I understood that to be hyperbole to emphasise the difference between the two styles, because the alternative would be that you are retarded. You're not retarded, are you?
>>94695296Honestly, if they didn't have the underslung guns and had maybe a sword or spear, they'd probably look pretty fine. The big goofy strap ons just ruin the silhouette so much.
>>94667409>I still remember it getting relentlessly laughed at right through the '90s and early '00sNo you don't because it didn't, fuck off newfag
>>94683561conceptually how would aiming a human body in a power armoured suit with a jet engine strapped to the back work?we've all seen iron man movies of course but uh I don't know if you've seen how awkward and full-attention the actual modern jet pack stuff is, not to mention the JB11 (with auto-stablizing! for the first time because it's the first time the JBs have had more than 2 engines) kicks out a lot of fumes, like a LOT of fumes that you don't want to be breathing; fine for your power armoured guy and the enemy, but not so good for your allies if they all go to sleep whenever the assault squads pass over themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDGHFCrVioand the JB11 is still slow as shit with terrible accel/decel rates and see what that pilot's doing with his legs? nothing? yeah, because his cog is so low down relative to the thrust that if he kicked out, as well as the thrusters setting his legs on fire, he'd flip over and thrust+gravity welp he wouldn't have time to recover even if he was 500m up, that's a death spin auto specialthen there's the Browning/Daedalus/Gravity pack everyone was raving about a few years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtyHS59d_cstill undergoing usefulness trials though between you and me I think it's probably not met those given that it's competing with drones that don't need training for most of its potential jobs780kW output to move a guy "a couple of metres" above the ground in normal use, so probably only useful for mountain rescue and even then, under ideal conditions where the patient isn't laid close to the edge and, honestly, can do a lot of stuff themselves like applying bandages and splints, because once you're strapped into that thing you're not coming out without assistance; useless for boarding actions the Telegraph video envisages (like buccaneers! get it? Brexit!!!! Britain's still relevant, guys!) because a) automatic weaponry exists and b) doesn't actually shoot repulsor beams from hands
>>94673933Everything I've seen from this line was such an unbelievable downgrade, maybe with the exception of some Mordheim
>>94673460Their only problem is the gorilla ass, which is a big fucking problem, but they are still cool
>>94695989>literal stormcast with CAD designs placed onto itNot even a real stormcast, but what /tg/ thinks a stormcast looks like
>>94691243Miniature with a topheavy helmet is worse than a lump with barely distinguishable features
>>94684802>WHFB died because they got rid of the older far better sculpts and replaced them with absolute shit new miniatures and where getting absolutely mogged by 40kArguable, plastic dwarf warriors from the skullpass are ugly stupid garden gnomes, but night goblins from skullpass are some of the best infantry kits gw ever done.I've seen much more people complain about older models not being updated, than that they were removed, the fact that the Island of blood didnt come with updated elven spearmen/archers is still the most retarded decision GW made with an edition starter
>>94695230>more covered up the betterImo, shitty armored model > excuisite half naked one, thats why i will never get the love for dwarf slayers, and who the fuck are people playing with marauders, who in their right mind wants a naked retard amongst an army of heavily armored dudes?
>>94712186gorilla grip orcussy
>>94667409Plastic Catachan are worse.
>>94684802>WHFB died because they got rid of the older far better sculpts and replaced them with absolute shit new miniatures and where getting absolutely mogged by 40kdelusional sperg, your beloved orcs were replaced in 6th ed and warhammer only started dying from 7th
>>94712316https://youtu.be/8oTSRxFi-aY?si=ZzxSrIp9wQvKY8iK&t=63
>>94716868>warhammer only started dying from 7thNope, get a clue retard, WHFB was once as popular as 40k
>>94709736Anon why did you not use the model of the shaman we were talking about? cos I was right? yeah
>>94712298Yeah anon, those are the new dwarfs that replaced the old
Fascinating thread.I just love miniatures. I even bought some the other day from a website with no catalogue pictures, so I had to use Lost Minis Wiki, both for his shop and the ranges he's inherited from others, to figure it out lel
>>94722346>the shaman we were talking aboutWe were talking about the Black Orc. The one I posted and you called 'dumb as fuck'. And then I asked how it was any dumber, etc. I'm sorry if following a reply chain is difficult for you.>cos I was right?Still no. Interesting attempt at avoiding the point though.
>>94722449I love this guy. GW sent me a £10 voucher for no reason so I used it on him since he's £9 at the momentI might leave his Choppa off though, I don't think it helps the silhouette
>>94672964>the rats are bucktoothWhat did he mean by this?
>>94703495would
>>94691243These are great. They shouldn’t have gone with horns AND the pointy helmet, but that can be easily overlooked. All lumineth look great, really.
>>94722389What shop was that
>>94673460Hey cool the nelson schizo is back
>>94722711>easily overlookedlmao the sheer despair behind that cope
>>94703652>EmasculatorsI love old school GW
>>94683561Technically speaking, Suppressors don't shoot while flying. Their jetpack is extremely small because they use it either to assist drops or to take bounding leaps to reposition quickly. The whole package is also used while stationary to counter recoil and allow them to use the massive autocannons that would otherwise very hard to use even for a marine.
>>94722735The Baggage Train
>>94722449Retard we can see the chain, clearly talking about the shaman>Prob cos the head is half the height of the mini? And 1/2 the head is the upper lip, looks absolutely fucking retarded+ Exaggerated claw hands, squinty eyes, every orc standing at the half squat, it's pure shitYou can't see the claw hands or giant upper lip the the shit Nelson black orcLie better
>>94722449Anon that's like 1/5th model...
>>94694365I think this is what GW wants to happen. GW wants the models to be more fragile than they should be that way that the piggies rebuy models for specific pieces that snapped off again and again.GW has forgotten that their miniatures are first and foremost gaming pieces before they are display pieces.
>>94726783I think GW knows their minis are display models that can be used for games!
>>94722905>we can see the chain, clearly talking about the shamanAh, so you *are* just too retarded to maintain a conversation. Good.So, what, you're making sweeping generalisations about 1 mini posted ITT, emphasising that you're describing that one mini and that it doesn't apply to other minis from the range that have been posted ITT, but insisting that they're reasons why the entire Nelson range is bad? You see the issue with that, right?>Exaggerated claw handsThey aren't especially exaggerated, they're just long nails> squinty eyesHe's wearing a hood. You can't even see one eye.>every orc standing at the half squatAs opposed to picrel?You are chatting pure shite, mate
>>94668226These are great for converting, by the way. Too bad they look horrible without it and came bundled with giant rats. Early computer sculpted GW models were ass. Newer kits generally look better, but have regressed to dynamic monopose with excessive tactical rock foundation.
>>94681500Too much flesh, not enough flesh metal.
>>94689017Big Krampus energy.
>>94729575Thats a good word. They look more like a Krampus!
>>94729004Bro take the Lthis is just sad now
>>94673460i like his whfb orcs but fucking despise his 40k orksAlso i like the older orcs but not the actual sculpts more so just the aesthetic and design
>>94729426Those werent digitally sculpted
>>94675178In all honesty it would've made more sense if it were a mummy dragon and having enough muscle to somehow better keep the pulpit on its back.Also they should've went for a normal saddle instead of a pulpit.I know the Bone Dragon was supposed to be a nod to the Nehekharan Zombie Dragon from the Tomb King army list from Warmaster, but they could've done it better.
>>94691243Honestly?If you remove the bull part of their helmets and give them swords, they could be pretty nice proxies for Swordmasters of Hoeth.
>>94736888Agreed, if you remove all the retarded parts it's not retarded anymore.
>>94736888Whats wrong with the hammers?
>>94735962>>94673460"Nelson's orcs are bad" is probably the shittiest of all the dogshit opinions I ever read here
>>94741460Dwarf coded.
>>94742213So are great axes, no?
>>94742401Thing is Elves and weapons with sharp edges are a better combination than with bludgeoning ones.
>>94742401Those guys are woodsmen, so they get a pass.
>>94741824why did you group me in with the disengenuous retard, all i said is i hate his 40k orks
>>94742401Yeah those are bad too.
>>94677071Well she wasn't a fucking caster anon so I doubt it, it's not the sculptor's job to cast the models and anyone who could cast anything could have cast miniatures
>>94673933Not just fanatic anon, the Perry tyranids were needlessly replaced with unbelievably inferior sculpts that were themselves quickly replaced, the same with IG but they weren't replaced and things like plastic high elves went from perfection to absolute garbage
>>94667955I can't hate this, Mario Kart is my friend
>>94672940>>94672972They don't fit the Skaven aesthetic at all. The chest armor silhouette looks like something you'd see on a Marvel action figure.
I'm surprised no one put this boring mass produced crap
>>94687580Don't know what you fags want most of the pointed out details like shoe bones and spine goaty are fucking hilarious
>>94741824>"Nelson's orcs are bad" is probably the shittiest of all the dogshit opinions I ever read here
>>94750675What are you talking about? They are really good minis. They are just monopose game models.
>>94751624The problem is that they are monotone as a mass unit. But when you want a legion thing or like Stormtroopers standing in formation they are great.
>>94709868It's the magazines. If they had ammo feeds instead of those wires they would look a lot better. I still love them nonetheless
>>94750928>post a picture of a good miniature
>>94669418Wasn't is also that because the sculptor hating it so much that it had to be a skull that he went for the goofiest fucking skull sculpt he could make?
>>94753840Check out Jordan Sorcery's interview with Gary Morley for his full story on that. In short, yes he did prefer his first sculpt and hoped they would approve it.
>>94691243NPC behaviour to act like these have any serious problem.
>>94751624I prefer the 3e marines but the 2e marines do have a charm of their own
>>94668167Trans Kane
>>94675864If you pretend its male its good
>>94722795You made that up to post-facto justify why they aren't wearing jump packs.The actual reason is simple: Tacitus armor jump packs didn't exist when Suppressors were sculpted.
>>94759295Indeed.
