Bulk Bin Rare Edition>Bans (new)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-december-16-2024>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-scheduleMetagame Mentor: Standard at Magic's Spotlight Serieshttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-standard-at-magics-spotlight-series>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>Previous>>94662167>TQWhat is your favorite "bulk bin rare" card?
>>94673795>TQ>What is your favorite "bulk bin rare" card?Spiritmongerhttps://scryfall.com/card/dmr/202/spiritmonger
/ccg/TQ: Your goals for the new year.
>Even Reddit is hating what they did to ChandraIs it possible to go so pozzed your own audience begins to resent you?
>>94673795>TQTarmogoyf
>>94674750you made me look and I don't see it
just went 1-3 in a draftconsecutive games of opponents topdecking bomb rares when their hand is emptyman it's been probably 25 or 30 drafts since I've gone 1-3 this is bullshit I'm not supposed to be able to lose, I'm a fucking god at this game
>>94674796Your brain may not be destroyed enough by the culture war to pick up on such subtleties.
>>94674750it doesn't matter, reddit complains but keeps buying so nothing changes
>>94674750they went out their way to make her flat lmao
>>94674750What happened (this time)?
Are you ready for a race anon-kun?
>>94675058I hate indians
>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6826997#paperModern Marverick bros...
>>94674796>>94675030
>>94675058not making one of them vehicles is still funny
>>94674750Oh cool so they've gone back to making Chandra look like a scrawny teenager again oh well
I feel like I'm not in love with Thalia anymore. I just fantasize about fucking her young body, my thumbs caressing her freckles cheeks, her pale hair and pale innocent white flesh. She is so pure, or at least she was. She's probably had sex with niggers honestly. I don't see her as the angel I once did. It fucks me up inside to have loved someone so strongly and now feel barely anything. I love my girlfriend but it's not the same wsy. I never had that powerful obsessive infatuation I felt for Thalia. Does that mean I don't really love her? I feel like with my girlfriend I faked it til I made it. Now I can't imagine losing her. My life would be so much easier if I was single. I could give up on everything.
>>94675058Can we fucking expect energy in this set too?I'm already tired of energy in Modern goddamnit
Pioneersissies when's the next BR update?
>>94675404I don't think so, unless energy is pushed as a dedicated way to animate vehicles, which is what the entire set is based on. If you're worried about the name "Living Energy" don't sweat it too much, it's a Commander deck, Duskmourn had a Miracle-based Commander precon but it didn't affect Standard at all.
>>94675493>our next banned and restricted announcement scheduled for March 31, 2025.
>>94675502kekI don't know how pioneers do it, they're just built different
>>94675494did you forget energy broke standard when it first came out?
>>94675526No? I said in my post I don't expect energy to return, but in the unlikely scenario where it does, it would probably be heavily attached to a few vehicles, making it less of a problem than just stapling energy on every single creature and instant/sorcery in the set.
>>94675523>I don't know how pioneers do itthey don't do itnobody is playing pioneereven vintage and duel commander (the two most unpopular 1v1 formats on mtgo) are getting more league results than pioneer
I asked the commander thread if Alesha WSAD would be a decent homebrew commander for an aggro warrior build and I didn't get any replies so I'm going to instead build a shitty pioneer homebrew around Alesha. I'll post the decklist in a little while.
>>94675502Why don't they just ban cards when necessary instead of doing this dance around the corpse of a format?
>>94675775>Why don't they just ban cards when necessarybecause they would rather "investors" and scalpers not get surprised by bans than making the game good for players
>>94673795Any good eggs deck since the mox unban? i know there is no KCI, but maybe there are other outlets?
i procrastinated a lot but ended up getting 7-2was never good at drafting but enjoyed drafting at the lgs. shame that shit never fires where i live anymore cuz mtga is cheaper. found out that they started doing legacy monthlies again so i might as well dust off my old rug delver deck with goyfs and stifles
>>94675058>mummy guy>just a guy wrapped in toilet paperMummies are supossed to zombie.
Look at this deck though.
>>94676368It doesn't look bad, but what is the point of going mono green? just budget?
>>94674750where did her tits go?
>>94676501Looks like I'll have to work overtime for DFT...
>>94675925Temur Breach is the closest thing to KCI, something like thishttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6827700#paper
>>94676501They are under the breastplate.
>>94673795>TQThis guy fucks.
Any way to play Gruul without it being a RDW splash?
>>94676368Seriouly what's the eal with fucking Acererak? I tried that deck a few times and for the love of god... I simply can't understand how the hell people dare to go with that meme to a challengue, league or competitive event.Deck is just bad compared to anything else happening in the format right now.
>>94676533>4 mama 2 for 1 you are selfnice meme card
>>94676586which format?>>94676610it's a deck built to prey on durdly piles, there's so many creatures that need to be removed on the spot that eventually a couple push through and you win the game by assembling the combo
>>94676627Historic
>>94675523pioqueer was stillborn, anyone who bought into tht scam has really low IQ.
>>94675676I didn't say anything because I hate that she exists as a character
How would you do it?
>>94676614All I run are meme decks. If I didn't what would even be the point?
Destroy All Humans. They Can't Be Regenerated. A Magic: The Gathering Manga Ends in 18th Volume:https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-12-26/destroy-all-humans-they-cant-be-regenerated-a-magic-the-gathering-manga-ends-in-18th-volume/.219526
>>94676766stop printing one mana cards that take over the game or kill everything.stop making everything a two for one or stapling card advantage to everything>>94676828sad
>>94676828:(
>>94676791that does indeed fuck then
>>94676766My first measure would be to stop printing legendaries for a year.I want to return to the basic form of magic, for gameplay (no commander obviously) and for world building.
>>94676860you just made me realize that the overlords are the new nephalim where they all should be legendary but aren't
>>94675676Commander sucks, don't waste time with it.
>>94676945I'm assuming the rationale would be that whenever one is slain, Valgavoth "promotes" another cellarspawn to replace them.
>>94676501The art director stole them to pawn off and pay for xirs transition surgery.
>>94676956I feel like they would have a different ability then unless he just makes duplicates when one dies.Man Duskmourn is so cool and I feel like it would be extremely popular if they didn't shove in 80s fashion and technology
>draft>play 16 lands>draw only land after land>flooded into oblivionalwaysfucking always
>>94677187Tasty jalapeno pringles
>>94676644i was gonna suggest a more control oriented route with disenchants and Blood Moon but BM is banned in asstoric so to bad
>>94676685Its more that people bought into it as a cope to escape UB and Modern Masters, only to fall prey to the worst excesses of current Standard with none of the counter measures.
>>94676501Not aerodynamic enough
NEW BREW ALERTRebound's interaction with Learn is hilarious.You VILL eat zee pests.
>>94677318seems fun and I like that Blue Ojer gets to do something considering they gave him the worst fucking flip condition out of the Gods
>>94677330>seems fun and I like that Blue Ojer gets to do something considering they gave him the worst fucking flip condition out of the GodsIf you have any suggestions, I'm open. I started retooling my orzhov Leyline of Hope Pests deck and I think this will be a far better home for the Lesson/Learn Pest plan.
>>94677318I feel so bad the only god that actually made something is the bat.
>>94677340the other Gods at least get to do shit in commander but the Blue Ojer got fucked because of the flip condition
So, with the Rebounding Pests plan, we can keep it strictly UBOr we can stretch into White for Narset and the white token buff tools, or Red for Lilah, Galvanic Iteration and a few other toys.i'm keeping it UB for now but both options seem interesting.
The bell is so good with Glarb bros ... fixes your mana, fuels delirium for Swarmweaver, and stores up shuffles for the top of your deck. MHayashi might be a genius.
>>94677363Hey buddy, looks like you took a wrong turn.The leather club is two doors down.>>94674685
>>94677370Glarb is not an EDH card, it is Courser of Kruphix on steroids.
Ah FUCK me Ojer is only Instants and for some god forsaken reason (Which breaks basically all of MTG history consistently grouping the two card types in effects like this) doesn't include Sorceries which most of the Pest summoners are.I just kind of assumed WotC wouldn't be retarded. My bad.
>>94677397i will NOT eat ze bugs
>>94677413You vill not eat zee pests........for nowNarset and Lilah both seem like strong options still. All the Lesson summoning spells are multicolor for Lilah..WHY DOES OJER NOT HIT SORCERY WTF LMFAO
>>94677340I like the green Ojer in Pioneer Scapeshift. Much better to draw a random 5 mana 6/5 that ramps you when it dies than a do nothing Purphoros.
>>94677437>Pioneer Scapeshift.List pl0x.
>>94677447>What am I missing?Mo not noticing WotC is retarded and decided to make a single exception ever to the "instant or sorcery" pairing just to fuck with people trying to brew interesting decks.
Ladies and GentlemenPeople of America,I regret to say it, but my last brew was a failure.For one time ever, Wizards of the Coast decided that a design in the FIRE era was too powerful and had to be toned down, leading the blue Ojer to break from the trend of pairing Instants and Sorceries for no apparent reason.I did not notice this and am saddened to say, my countrymen, that it's back to the drawing board.Which has yielded immediate results.
>>94677503God, I hate Lilah so fucking much.The anatomy and pose looks so bad
Man I remember when I first started playing MtG. It was during KTK and for some reason I kept opening Sagu Maulers. I thought they were the coolest shit because they were big bodies and hexproof, except they were shit because they were too expensive and did nothing the turn they came down in the same format Siege Rhino existed. I must have opened 6 or 7 of them, out of only a couple of dozen packs or so. Good times.
>>94677612Yeah OTJ probably had the worst art of any Magic set.
>>94677397>WHY DOES OJER NOT HIT SORCERY WTF LMFAOBecause those types of effects get degenerate with extra turn cards.
>>94676766Cut back on value engines that end the game by themselves. It creates a bad, low skill gameplay flowchart. If a single card ends the game by itself, then the game devolves into everyone jamming these threats and the other player checking their hand for removal, and the first player who runs out removal loses. There's no skill to this, it's a binary flowchart. Oculus is as example. Massive threat, that also is a value engine, that also has recursion.Slow the game down. When an rdw player has a leyline and some mice in his hand, he's going to win if you're not holding 3 removal spells in your opener. Which means neither player is actually making any decisions, they're both just checking the binary flowchart, if player 2 has the removal or not. It removes skill from the game. Longer games mean more player decisions on average, which means skill can play a larger role in the outcome. Make creature combat matter, make blocking and double blocking matter. Make combat tricks matter, other than the leyline decks that just count to 20 and it's not actually an interactive trick.Make Baneslayer Angel and Chandra Torch of Defiance the best cards in the format. 4+ mana, can't win on the spot, either a beatstick or utility not both, the opponent can interact with these and can do so in a few turns without already losing. You can still have strong cards, it's the speed that is the problem with the game these games, and the single-card-wins, have removal right now or the game is already over trend as well.
>>94677441https://www.moxfield.com/decks/O5D8MokflEq3QfOqvc2qiANut draw wins on turn 3, more reasonable to win on turn 4. Good Phoenix matchup. Gets run over by Heroic. Pit of Offerings and Wish gives you some nice maindeck hate for graveyard decks and random gimmicks like Nine Lives.
>>94677646so, they also printed the worst restriction possible on him to the point he isn't good in any format
>>94677646
>>94677646Anon, it's the FIRE era.
>>94677666he was played in standard right after he came out in UB, he got pushed out eventuallyalso designed for commander etc etc
>>94677832he's the worst one in commander
>>94677852I know but designed for commander doesn't necessarily means it's good in commander, it's just that commander was their intention
unstoppable slasher is a pretty annoying card in pooneer
>>94673795>tq
So I know this has probably been discussed to death but when the hot wheels set comes out and flops because it's a shit idea - Wotc is going to use that as an excuse to do more UB right?
>>94678126yeah, I can understand it having deathtouch but it should've been a 2/2 since we are not allowed good 3 damage spells
>round 1>go second, lose>round 2>go first, win>round 3>go second, loseNice game you got there
>>94678404>go second, loseskill issue
>>94678167You're insane. It will be the best selling set since t he last best selling set. It will be chock full of commander staples.
WEEP, PIONEERFAGSI MAY BE A COMPLETE RETARDBUT IT REMAINS TRUETHAT NO MAN CAN COOK LIKE ME
>>94678435Ok. You got your engine.What will it power?
>>94678449>Speaker of the Heavens>Griffon Aerie>Any "Whenever you gain life" cards>Leyline of HopeBlessed perfection, that's what.
>>94678449>>94678456Potentially also a Madness setup. I have no idea, we're still cooking.
>>94678456Put me in coach.
Alright, so here's my Alesha Aggro(ish) Warriors Pioneer homebrew decklist. Feel free to add to, take away, constructively criticize or just flat out torch me. I do think I've already crammed a little too much in there but hey, it is just a prototype:Main board:3x Alesha, WSAD1x Angelfire Ignition2x Arashin Foremost2x Battle Brawler1x Blood-Chin Fanatic2x Blood-Chin Rager2x Bloodsoaked Champion1x Brutal Hordechief2x Chief of the Edge2x Crackling Doom2x Diplomacy of the Wastes3x Fatal Push3x Gideon of the Trials1x Hidden Dragonslayer2x Mardu Shadowspear2x Mardu Strike Leader2x Mardu Woe-Reaper1x Risk Factor2x Seeker of the Way1x Sorin, Solemn Visitor3x ThoughtseizeMB Land:4x Cavern of Souls2x Blood Crypt2x Godless Shrine2x Caves of Koilos2x Dragonskull Summit2x Isolated Chapel2x Nomad Outpost 4x SwampSideboard:4x Kolaghan's Command 3x Lost Legacy2x Hero's Downfall2x Anger of the Gods2x Bile Blight2x Languish...Too much? Pls respond...
>>94678474Considering both it and Panicked Bystander already.
>>94678476post moxfield link and I'll check it out, I ain't searching all that shit up
>>94678449Found what it will power.
>>94678425Commander staples, an all-new super rare foil treatment, an utterly broken card that rotates Modern, and a card that has a broken interaction with a card in the Star Wars set to rotate Legacy. Screenshot this.
>>94678435>>94678510
What else do we add?
>>94678510
>>94678554Jesus fucking christ how has nobody discovered Silversmote+Scavenger's Talent yet?
>>94678554A shitload of one mana instant speed kill spells and thoughtsieze?
>>94678584Push is definitely in. Not sure if Seize is going to make the cut as 2 life matters when you're running Speaker of the Heavens + possibly also Leyline of Hope.
Perchance?
>>94678435Bring it on home you crazy motherfucker.
>>94678554Perhaps?
>>94678605>>94678645>>94678649In the Considering.
>>94678554some bomb for class level 3?
>>94678668I'm scouring for exactly that but the perfect one won't be easy to find.
>>94678554Fuck i unironically think this shit can actually work.
>>94678702It's going to be absolute HELL for aggro to punch through, even if it doesn't end up cracking the top of the meta.
>>94678668>>94678674Valgavoth is probably the best target that you can actually cast, but Atraxa is also good.
>Lol, said the cow you discarded Peace of Mind>Lmao
>>94678738>Valgavoth is probably the best target that you can actually cast, but Atraxa is also good.This wouldn't be a dedicated reanimator deck so I'd want a bomb that fits in the niche of>"Still perfectly castable while also being impactful enough to be a good reanimate subject."Right now I'm leaning toward Exemplar of Light or a few of the other big Angels.
>>94678739Imagine her milkers when she was a human!
IT BEGINS.
>>94678769Only one oven?
>>94678791Test brew. We'll see.It's a 5-8 of Scavenger's for now.
Initial tests suggest this setup is absolutely vile when it's online, but will require a lot of tuning to find the right support pieces and get solid consistency.Exemplar + Peace of Mind are neat together.
Serra Paragon may also make a good support piece. It's less appetizing to re-cast your reanimating dudes with it, but it could come alongside a good Food package. Probably won't make the cut, but it's another option.
Nope, turns out there's an even better support angel.
What's the wincon? Enduring tenacity?
>>94679195>What's the wincon? Enduring tenacity?Problems are being solved and solutions being tested as we speak.>Deathtouch>3 toughness to hose tons of annoying threats>Extra sac outlet for Scavenger's loops.>Also, infinite instant speed targeted unconditional exile removal if you ever meet the life requirement (Which we can get easily)Ayle is goes in balls deep in this list. Fucking hell she's a BEAST.
KALA
>>94679232They should add all the kaladesh cards to the banned racist card lists desu
>>94674716A friend of mine made these cards based on someone else we both know, and they were too funny to not post because he messed up so much stuff.
>>94679212Unholy Annex off Serra into mutavault?
>>94674716Sucks that the game is so shit that it's hard to get motivated for /ccg/ anymore.Cool to see it around still. I've slowed down a lot with my sets, for the above reasons (Game is fucking shit, WotC is retarded, etc.) but still pick away at designs when I have ideas.
>>94679338Wait, what set is this from? What is a Friendly creature?
>>94674750Isn't that Mauvika, the genshin Pyro archon that launches in a few days?>>94674750
>enter Arena win a box event>get creamed by a deck with 6 playable rares on the battlefield I know they do sealed to bait people into spending multiple entry fees, but feels bad man
>>94679212Looks pretty sweet
Urza's Refrigerator 0Artifact U1+T: Create a tapped food token with a stun counter on it.
>>94673795>throw wife on bed>plap her doggie style>throw her to the side>wipe dick on sheets>leave her there to deal with the mess>sit down and rank to platinumSolo dark chads represent. Virgins (red) need not apply.
>>94679887>plap her
>>94679861
>>94679887>raeps ur sheo>raeps ur slasher
>>94679212He goes infinite with familiar and talent on the board
>>94680736Unfortunately not, the forst level of Scavenger's talent only triggers once each turn.
>>94680736he's a sac outlet for samwise combo>samwise gamgee>cauldron familiar>el bartoBRRRRRRRR
>>94675775Because apparently gamers didn't like suprise bans on mondays although nobody ever complained about it and was happy whenever they actually decided to do anything. So yet again they are probably lying for profit and shareholders. Just like extending rotation to 3 years in standard so they can get rid of boxes of sets that didn't sell well.
>>94677318None of these lesson cards are instants that Ojer demands tho? Am i missing some interaction here?
>>94675775You'd need to ban push and thoughtseize but people would rather have format die
How the fuck is BR Annex EVEN MORE cancer than BR Vampires what the FUCKHow do you fuck up game design THIS FUCKING BADLY
>>94681588it isn't, you're just trying to push a meme because you're bored and nobody cares about pioqueer
>>94681590>it isn't,We've gone from an annoying fast combo to everything in the deck being immortal while drawing you cards alongside instant OHK combos.Annex is FAR worse than Vamps.
>>94681590Go back to Memedern fag
>>94681653please do explain how a 3 mana 6/5 flying super blood artist that's immune to traditional removal thanks to ward is less cancer than a shitty phyrexian arena that dies to literally any form of disenchant effect>>94681654>everyone who dislikes my pioqueer format has to be a modernfagyou're mentally ill, seek help
>>94681588>How the fuck is BR Annex EVEN MORE cancer than BR VampiresI want you to know that you are the only autist in the entire world who believes that
>>94681697>please do explain how a 3 mana 6/5 flying super blood artist that's immune to traditional removal thanks to ward is less cancer than a shitty phyrexian arena that dies to literally any form of disenchant effect>Vampires:Play Sheoldred's Edicts and board wipes, problem solved. Rather trivial to beat.>Annex + Slasher?????????????????
>>94681697>everyone who dislikes my pioqueer format has to be a modernfagWhat do you mean dislikes?You're defending the trashfire lmao.
I just spent many kangaroo bucks on many Foundation boosters I hope its as fun as ive been deluded into believing
>>94679564>Wait, what set is this from?My pulp scifi set.>What is a Friendly creature?Friendly is you+allies and things you+allies control.Opposing is the opposite: enemy players and things you don't control.
>>94681723>Play Sheoldred's Edicts and board wipesso play black or play control? so many options it's hard to choose>Annex + Slasheryour opponent had to spend actual 6 mana to play both of these, have you realized how shitty annex is that you need to put another card together with it to compare with turn 3 vein ripper? and every color, except for red, can deal with enchantments for 2 mana or less, green, white and black can disenchant, blue can bounce it back, it's crazy the mental gymnastics you have to make to even begin to justify your position >>94681734>You're defending the trashfire lmao.I'm not defending pioqueer, the format could die for all I care but even a toddler can understand that turn 3 vein ripper is stronger than a shitty phyrexian arena
>>94681805>have you realized how shitty annex is that you need to put another card together with it to compare with turn 3 vein ripper?.......................>Annex summons its own demon..................................>Vein Ripper requires another card (Sorin) to get out on T3..................................... anon...... >and every color, except for red, can deal with enchantments for 2 mana or less (As if you don't eat a 3-for-1 from them drawing a card and getting a 6/6 flier out of it).....are you retarded?
>>94681805>blue can bounce it backSounds like a good plan, Alphonso.
>>94681815>Annex summons its own demonfor 5 (five) mana>Vein Ripper requires another card (Sorin) to get out on T3for 3 (three) manaI'm just gonna quote myself>it's crazy the mental gymnastics you have to make to even begin to justify your position
>>94681897>BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT SPELLS COST MANA!!!!!!!What did he mean by this?
>>94681774Wow that looks fucking hideous. You're okay with that?>all that shit for 4 manaOh, nevermind, you're literally retarded.
"Life Is Pain" V3.It's going places. Still a little janky but becoming more consistent.Fleshmaker is huge. I tend to lean toward cards that solve more than on problem, and being life gain, filtering, a sac outlet AND a huge threat all rolled into one means he slots right in.I suspected Exemplar would be the best top-end threat and it's settling into that slot. Grows very big, very fast, draws us some cards. Great target for Scavenger's reanimates. It just kind of does everything we want at a reasonable hardcast price. Looking for other options still.Ayli is hilarious. We gain a lot of life, her exiles get online very often and she can solo games once it does.
Thinking about building a pauper deck built around cheap unblockable shit. Can't decide if I want it to be Mono Black or Dimir.
>>94682025Dimir Ninjas
>>94681922why post this?
>>94682035Good suggestion, me thinks looking into that!
>>94681922>pdf
>>94681922We can post pdfs here? Wtf
>>94682089there's a whole thread dedicated to sharing pdf here in /tg/
>>94682089lurk moar newfag
Is there a format that includes every card with the old border and a banlist? Like eveything before Scourge, I think it was.I know there's "premodern" but it excludes a lot of great sets for (what I think are) arbitrary reasons. Would others be interested in a format like this existing if it doesn't?
>>94682216You want to combine Old School and Premodern together, basically?
Pixie Esper is so much fun and the deck actually can make really strong things, try it anons.
>>94682288>Pixie Esperwhat format is this
You know, the keyword mechanics for the wedges in Khans of Tarkir are kinda hit and missAbzan: neither outlast nor bolster has anything to do with black. Bolster fits more with Selesnya with white and green focus on creatures Jeskai: prowess is actually a good mechanic. Both red and blue focus on spell, while red and white focus on counters. This one get a passSultai: delve has nothing to do with green. I think it fits Grixis more. Spells and sacrifices are Grixis’s stuffs.Mardu: Raid is pretty good keyword mechanic for Mardu, red, white and black all focus on combat. They lack blue’s focus on reason and green’s focus on harmony. Dash though, I don’t see how it got anything to do with whiteTemur: Ferocious has nothing to do with blue/red. It’s should have been a green only keyword So only 2 out of 5 are ok, the rest is meh. Man, wizards sure have trouble making the keyword ability for the 3 color combos. I hope they can improve in the future
>>94682447This card really did serious damage, the designer must repent.
Armageddon should be standard legal
>>94682317NTG but it's Standard, it's the Esper version of that Orzhov Feyblade deck. The one where you use creatures to pick up and put back down discard and forced sac enchantments to do control stuff while building a board of your own.
>>94681970You lost the soul along the way somewhere.
>>94682438>Bolster fits more with SelesnyaDidn’t they give Dromoka’s clan the bolster mechanic? That’s probably why
make DREDGE great again.In all formats.
>>94682242Basically. Old School seems less interested in being an actual format and more about showing off old expensive collections, and Premodern doesn't want to step on 93/94 format's toes by including sets like Legends or The Dark. At the same time, Fallen Empires is orphened from both and its cards don't have a home, which they should as theyre interesting cards.
>>94677653Good take
>>94682514dredge is a top tier deck in vintagegodbless bazaar of baghdad
>>94682438Wedge mechanics seem more about representing what colors they are not.Abazan- Distributing +1/+1 counters are rare in red and blue with blue usually need counters already being on a creature to add more.Jeskai-Green and black care the least about noncreature spells with green wanting creatures on the field and black in the grave.Sultai- Red and white have the hardest time getting cards in the graveyard with white recently getting to have surveil.Mardu-Blue cares the least about combat and green is there because raid encourages attacking with your weenies that might get killed to end the game quickly while green focuses on having your mana dorks on standby to cast your giant creatures.Temur- At common white and black rarely have any +4 power creatures with red getting them occasionally.
>people lose their mind against some 1/1 on boardi think the average magic player is bad.
Grist, Voracious Larva is such a frustrating card.Why do they always print a obviously worse card in almost every cycle
>>94682638all mh3 cards are cancer and youre gay if you play them
>>94682638Won't one card in a cycle always have to be the worst?
>>94682638What the fuck? All the baby Planswalkers are good anon
>>94682647he's the only one that doesn't do something to self flip and needs a bunch of setup
>>94682438>abzanOne positive thematic aspect of black is persistence and endurance, outlast fits that well and also plays into the idea of black sacrificing something to gain something else, in this case "sacrificing" a blocker to gain stats.>sultaiDelve is pseudoramp, see titan's nest.>marduDash was for Kolaghan clan, not Mardu. It doesn't show up on any white cards from the block.>temurGreen is big creatures, blue is expensive big creatures, red is high power creatures. Plus both green and red commonly buff creatures.The issue, if you want to call it that, is that the Tarkir clans are off center, so instead of Abzan being mainly B with a WG side, it's mainly W with a GB twist. If you look at it from that angle, all of the clan make more sense.
>>94682625It should be about the color combos, not what the other 2 colors can’t do. That said, I don’t have any issues with prowess and raid, they execute the wedges perfectly.
Okay so this is fucking starting to bother, the new breed and influx of players saying mtg never mattered, the game is cringe and you should embrace fucking onions-fallout and final fantasy of all things. Like go fuck yourselves. Should have gatekept the faggots harder.
>>94682712ESL or AI?
>>94682681>Dash was for Kolaghan clan, not MarduDash first appeared in Fate reforged. They probably give it to the Mardu to test it like bolster with the Abzan>Green is big creatures, blue is expensive big creatures, red is high power creaturesHmm, but this focus more on green. I guess you are right.I do wonder though, what kind of mechanics suitable for Naya since it focus on creatures?I managed to find a mechanic that fit Jund: if a card managed to kill a creature and survive, it gain +1/+1
>>94682721just mad not like it matters
>>94682681Outlast sucked>Delve is pseudorampHuh, oh yeah
>>94682726>if a card managed to kill a creature and survive, it gain +1/+1Basically Baron Sengir
Are Overlords good design? I enjoy them but i feel they are sometimes oppresive even in Pioneer.
>>94683109they are but up the beanstalk isn't if overlords didn't cantrip on etb they wouldn't feel oppressive anywhere
Are precon duels decks competitive at all?
I just went 7 wins for the first time as a relative new player in a quick draft, wohoo. Was red/white with a lot of small shitters and some heroic reinforcements and goblin surprises
>>946826541/2 deathtoucher for g in green still isn't bad, right?right...?Oh god, I'm mentally in Alara
>>94683464Congrats, bro. I feel like RW has been pretty strong in recent sets, they've been pushing aggro for a while now.
If you play any deck with more than colours you are a faggot and a retard.
>>946837222 colours* Not even Temur is acceptable. You must play one or two.
>>94683722based eldrazi table rapist
i no longer want musk to buy hasbrofucking kike
i just want hasbro to burn and leave magic alone.
>>94682712I feel you manIts not just a lore thing either.Back in the day there was just a h9igher percentage of people who had fondness for the cards they were playing with on their own merits.Cards like Goyf, Snapcaster, Delver, As Naus, Lili of the Veil, and Twin were strong and iconic but not oppressive enough to be hated, while cards like Mindsculptor were infamous for their power but thanks to banns were kept out of formats were it could pose a real issue.All of these cards were given places of fondness in the community, with comics, fan art, and articles being written about them, a real shared community around the game.Now we exist in a time where if a card is strong enough to be iconic its strong enough to be unfun to play against and to be honest its been like this since the Eldrazi Winter and subsequently that community has mostly faded away.This isn't to say that their have never been iconic broken cards, again see Mindsculptor or cards like Top, but outside of standard they were rare and managed accordingly.
UB is the end and is already here.Cummander faggots are deciding the fate or this game. And the fate is destroying the game and it's identity.
>>94684139"J-j-just don't b-b-buy it if you don't like it!" is usually the response people give for saying what you did. Blind and oblivious (willfully or not) to the effects.
you know how ridiculous it is to got1 landt2 rampt3 rampt4 portent of calamity x=5, hits bramble familiar + 4 types, cast fetch quest, hits omniscience, cast atraxa, hit invasion, loop invasion/beseech/town to win the game on the spotit actually reads>1U: cycle sorcery speed>2U: divination>5U+: you win the game (4U takes some real luck)
>>94684513you die t3 to red ggs
>>94684368The whole UB thing should be the textbook example of slippery slope. It went exactly as one would expect, and everyone with a functioning brain could see the end game of such a move.>people saying "h-how does it effect y-you!" early on in the UB slope>if you want to play standard you will be forced to engage with people casting 'Spiderman's Web Swing' on their 'Patrick Star' equipped with 'Cloud's Buster Sword' if you want to play standardI have to give some props to WotC for fleecing and selling out their mostly retarded player base. They really boiled that frog. Even now people will defend it because "uh it makes money for WotC, which matters to me because....uh....well it matters." Kudos.
>50% of the super qualifier top 32 were lurrus decksthis is 100% getting banned in either vintage or going to result in companions being banned in all formats the way ante and sticker/attraction cards are
>>94685896i play vintage and lurrus is the most comically dumb thing i've ever seen in any game, every person at r&d should be fired
>>94685896I think mass banning all companions is more likely, the vast majority of lurrus decks in vintage are control and before lurrus was unbanned, control as an archtype was essentially unplayablealso they did adress lurrus directly in the last B&R:>In our August announcement, we restricted Vexing Bauble and Urza's Saga and have since seen the metagame share of Lurrus of the Dream-Den decks increase.>Without having to worry about an abundance of colorless mana sources, many of the Lurrus shells have opted to run Psychic Frog instead, consolidating the archetype into Dimir or Esper variants.>Despite Lurrus taking the largest share, there is still ample representation of other strategies, and win rates of the top strategies line within reason.>We'll be keeping an eye on how Vintage continues to evolve and monitor the success and play rate of Lurrus decks.>Restricting Lurrus wouldn't accomplish anything, and the bar for being banned in Vintage is very high.unless lurrus decks become 80% of the format, it doesn't look like they'll choose to re-ban it
>>94686198>We're monitoring the situation>All macro archetypes are seeing play>The meta looks healthy and diverse>Our data suggests it doesn't have an excessively high win rate>We can't make any changes now because it would disrupt an upcoming event>We're waiting to see how the next release effects the meta>The format has all the tools necessary to deal with it>There's plenty of room for rogue decks to succeed
>>94686198playing anything apart from lurrus is -evpeople are only going to play other archetypes because they want to, even knowing that they're likely to lose
>>94686392>playing anything apart from lurrus is -evit doesn't look like it was the case this last week, dredge and bug came ahead of everything else
>>94686392>>94686431forgot winrate pic
Would it be good in the current meta?
>>94686451>pushes your 8 bears
>>94686451not even Standard playable
>>94682654*she
>>94686451>>94686462>there's a vanilla 12/8 for 6 at uncommon in standard>it's fucking unplayable>garbage even in FDN limited unless you can give it tramplewhere did it all go wrong?
>>94686392imagine pat chapin writing next level magic today and the types of decks are aggro, combo, control, and "Lurrus"
>>94686531There need to be a serious conversation about the decline of flavor text
>>94686532>the types of decks are aggro, combo, control, and "Lurrus"there is no control, just lurrus, that's the whole point what you might be interpreting as "fair blue" isn't control, it just isn't combo (usually that means bug)
>>94686431man who knew that a free card that you always start with and combos with black lotus would be good?not wizards!
>>94686597Companions were 90% of the meta on MTGO by the end of the first weekend and MaRo was still saying you just had to gitgud
>>94683978But bro, imagine a WotC run entirely by Pajeet.Imagine the economic efficiency! Imagine the GDP!Poo planet 2050, sars. You will redeem!
>>94686619Companions slotted into every archetype. The meta was still diverse. It was the players' fault for looking at it in terms of "companion decks vs non-companion decks" instead of considering the actual deck archetypes.
>>94686543When Maro is the senior voice and the rest of the staff are either green and uneducated in classical fantasy prose, or outside guys brought in because the staff thought they were funny this is what you get.
>>94686646i don't know man...i don't know how musk managed to turn this into a republican position in literally 24 hoursthe only thing that's keeping me cautiously optimistic at this point is that it seems like most of the right are against h1bs (going by likes) and the far left are also against this
>>94686752LET THE DEVIL INTO THE GARDEN, YOU RACISTS
>>94677653you can't pull back the curtain like this, it doesn't fit their current marketing plan. expect a visit from the pinkertons shortly
>>94678126i saw it cast off a lotus in vintage dredge g2
>>94686543"There needs to be a serious discussion about the decline of flaAAAAAGH!"-Flavor Text, last words
>>94686752>picMan, even assuming he's completely correct he's wrong. Westerners are too nice to succeed in the same way UAE succeeds. We're too liberal(philosophical sense) to keep imported slaves contained and controlled.
>>94675058gosh I hate modern mtg AEsthetic. The Oath of the gatewatch-Ixalan era was the end of magic (with the only saving graces being Innistrad 2 and Amonkhet)
>>94681338Yes, you are.
>>94679280>Chakram Retriever in reminder textCommander players have ONE JOB.
>>94674716Struggling to figure out a life cost that wouldn't be completely free in EDH while still not being retarded in real formats. I mean obviously a 3-mana creature that needs to untap with no protection will never be good in 60-card, but still conceptually I don't want cards that only function in a meme format.
>>94686531Its playable in the R/G archetype in draft.
The only color for this combo is redCalendar {1}, AWBO {3RR}My only reason for dipping into blue is the sheer power of enigma jewel right now, which also helps speed up this combo slightly when it goes off (enigma jewel + calendar + 5 lands on board can cast and immediately tap) but its really just a sol ring, which is good but its only +1 mana over say an irencrag by that point.So I ask, would this work better in another shell? Is there some color that would combo coincidentally with AWBO in clumsy hands. Should I just be playing black control with duress cut down anoint annex? Its really only 8 card slots and a red splash necessary to combo here. It could be mono white control with sweeper tribal for all it matters. I'm just trying hard to survive whatever the opponent is doing turns 1-4
>>94687174>The Oath of the gatewatch-Ixalan era was the end of magicVery generous, I'd say Alara was the last block that had any old-magic soul.
>>94687407Mirrodin signaled the beginning of the end.
>1 red mana left open>opponent harmless offerings me a lethal demonic pact on my upkeep>....>cast torch the tower on my own creature (he has none) to sacrifice the pact
>>94687420>tfw at the time I thought the chrome aesthetic was just a gimmick for the all-artifacts set and we'd be back to the classic rusted metal look in no time
>opponent turn 0 leyline of the void>opponent turn 1 thoughtseize>opponent turn 1 force of despair
>>94686451Maybe.
>>94687627Why would someone play Force of Despair on a board with no creatures on it?
>>94687719go for the throat
>>94687729what are hollow one and blazing rootwalla, planeswalkers?
>>94687627Some games just aren't meant to be won sorry anon
>>94687407>>94687420There was a noticeable difference when Digital Art became the norm starting with Alara that kept going throughout the following years.As for Training Drone after a quick skim, its an outlier in Scars Block because while seeming to follow the principles of Mirrodin Design its lacks the edges or bulbous naturalistic nature of other Mirrodin Artifice and has a heavily diverging coloration that lacks both the rust or shine you would expect from Mirrodin.I know I might get shit for posting pic rel but I feel it adds to my point even if people don't agree fully.Especially since I'm still working on the Goblin write up (got the PDF's for Shadowmoor and Eventide to read, then the Amonkhet stories before going full bore, but I got the structure down).
>>94687974Aladdin's Lamp isn't a reference it's literally from the story.
>>94687974The Mirrodin machinations are an offense to Magic.
>>94688032It is just a robot.
Didn't see anyone mention it last thread, but /our manga/ is ending next year with Volume 18 (Translations are only up to like Volume 13 right now)
>>94688036You can obviously tell which is old art and which is new.
>>94688009True its more emblematic of how Old MTG, drew consistently upon already existing media and concepts back before it metabolized those things into itself. The Lamp and Rabiah being mainly just the Arabian Nights is just the most explicit version of that.>>94688032>>94688036Urza's Artifice gave precedent to those types of designs, the Grid Monitor art is clearly mimicking a naturalistic body type while being Bulbous as befits the bio-organic nature of the plain.Likewise the Veldakin in Lumingrid Augur is likewise taking the bio-organic theming in its clothing.And Mirrodin as a self contained world still followed the guiding style of magic world design and got away with being high tech because it is again this weird bio-organic world of living metal that existed in its own bubble.
The end was presaged.
>>94688159Those Neurok and Veldakin chugged so much Blinkmoth Serum that it blitzed their future sight right past New-Phyrexia and to Aetherdrift. Tragic
I will enjoy artifact focused set.
>t1 citadel, opal, vexing bauble, keeping rebuke upoh yeah, one is getting banned
>>94688406what is this, a legendary artifact planeswalker equipment for one of grist's ants?
>>94688406>fetchable with both stoneforge mystic and karn
>>94688408you're right vexing bauble is getting banned
Standard deck brewCreatures12x Hare Apparent2x Valley Questcaller4x Picklock Prankster3x Hinterland SanctifierSorcery4x Raise the Past4x Inspiration from beyondLands4x Evolving Wilds4x Azorious Guildgate8 plains6 IslandsNeed 8 more cards for this, I want mill carfs but can't find that many more blue self mill. Don't wanna go into green because I get mana screwed with 3 colours when playing the deck.Plan is to go self mill hard / chump block shit until I can play Raise the best at turn 4 and just overwhelm opponent + gain life.Any ideas for my last 8 cards?Prev deck contained4 Llanowar elf4 Say it's name1 Altanak Wich I cut out.
>>94688551Jace Perfected mind kinda fits into the deck, drop him turn 3 and mill 9 cards, or use another of his abilities, he is also like 10 bucks so looking for a cheaper option, or I just proxy him.Pic related is also a good fit. Or take the deck into Selesnya instead of UW
>>946885866 cards*
>>94688586>>94688551problems I've seen areif you want to use the fastest mill start (turn 2 founding + 2 mana spell like picklock) this makes it unable to cast raise the past from your graveyard on turn 4 when founding triggers.jace wants to be 4 mana to mill yourself otherwise its just 9 cards milled for 3 mana and 2 lifesmart players can interrupt your combo even without graveyard hate / counters by simply waiting until starscape cleric is returned and lifegain triggers are on the stackof course if all you're doing is going all-in with hare apparent they won't need that, they simply sunfall and game is over
>>94688697Yes, the deck can fold in several ways to the meta. Also, I don't run starscape Cleric.
>mfw my favorite card is banned in every format and its restricted in vintage and I will never live the glory days of playing flash hulk againI have never loved a deck that much. Free flash
>>94688746the easiest way your deck loses is opponent simply plays creatures and turns them sideways and you can't field baseline power/toughness on curve let alone enough to hold back the busted aggro decks, and you have no interaction whatsoever. what are you going to do against t1 heartfire, t2 manifold mouse, t3 emberheart + monstrous rage
>>94688770I die, easy as that.Maybe I should go boros impact tremors with more removal?
>>94682494>along the way somewhere.That somewhere being testing against FIRE garbage.No currentMagic format allows for sovlful decks.
ANYWAYSI'm still scouring options and considering things.Possibly a swap to BG instead of BW is the play. Bramble Wurm is both a solid target for Scanger's Talent recursion and enables Silversmote revival from alongside them in the 'yard, and Green gives us more Food power and access to Say Its Name.Not sure I want to go THAT hard into graveyard strategies, because of how fragile they are, but it's an option.Much to ponder.
>>94688999How does your deck win?
>>94689134Through the power of friendship!
We did it, boys!We fixed Pioneer!
>caring about pooneerretard
>>94688408The most popular Opal deck in the format is less than 5% of the meta right now, it's hard to believe this but Opal might just be an okay card in Modern by 2024 standards.
In your opinion, what is the best color in magic? I like red the most because it has dragons and it’s the most fun to play against. White is boring, blue is fag, black is edgy, and green is green
>>94689643Black. Power by all means is my gimmick and it usually has a very strong gameplan.
>>94687394If you do go into black, you could potentially run a backup combo piece with AWBO in ob nix, captive kingpin. Though you'd to modify your removal to include x-costs to get that 1 exact damage, or go more into creatures since there's a bunch of ways to deal 1 damage there, or run the crime taplands which seems worse in comparison.
Black is the strongest. In fact, its strength is problematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrjzEhjAPw>Miracles is back>You need 4x Tamiyo to play it I fucking hate wotc so much
>>94689737I mean, how bad could it be to b- OH MY GODNESS
>tired: {W/P}, {H}>wired: {W/F}, {F}>inspired: {W/Φ}, {Φ}
>>94689643Black. Love recursion, love drain, love bugs, love undead, love demons, love curses, love masochistic wincons.In terms of power level red is the strongest followed by blue, as a general rule.
>>94689753man i'm surprised people still buy new magic cards that cost this much.i haven't touched new cards ever since mh1 and since then cards like grief and fury went from like $50 to nothing lol
>>94689753wdym, it costs 1 wildcard
>>94690283fpbp
>>94688009that's literally what a reference is. Magic: the Gathering's set Arabian Nights is not literally One Thousand and One Nights, but the lamp still appears as a card with its own tale (mechanics).
>>94690283Boomerfags fucked with 4 single words.
>>94689643White because all the characters have been turned into fucking niggers and i think thats pretty neat!
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>>94690654I have like 3 of her so I'm quite happy.
>>94690654>(Edit: I'm sorry for having a negative opinion. I like a lot of UB slop! Please accept me!)God damn, redditoids are sad.
>>94690654I don't understand why people should feel bad for saying the truth.Fuck UB. Fuck WOTC and FUCK HASBRO. Is horrible and will mean the end of Magic and i don't feel sorry for saying it i just feel sorry for something that i liked dying in such horrible way.
>>94690654
>>94691078so true
>>94691060I thought things like LOTR are alright because they feel somewhat Magic-y in a way, their universe I mean.But Spiderman and shit like that is ridiculous.
>>94691100>6 sets a year>FF slop, Sponge Bob, Spider-man and god knows what other slop shit>Half the sets will be non real magic related>Every set will be Standard playableEvery sign points towards not only to an absolute greed but also to the ultimate death of this game.
>>94691130spongebob is not standard legal, it's a secret lair
We're only gonna be one year in and already have Caith Sith enchanted by Sense of the Spiderman Imagine what we'll get in 2026 to add to the mix
>>94691245you think the game will survive wearing so many pop culture references for a whole year? and only standard and modern as the competitive scene?
>>94690654whats the nog on aboutmagic IP has been dead for over a decade. There hasn't been a single decent magic storyline that stands alone in a fleshed out universe since new phyrexiaeverything is just some trope world of hats and ripoffs of whatever IP is popular in public consciousness- they copied marvel superheroes and then just gave up on made hatworldsEverything from Nicol Bolas to Superfriends to Indianblackland to Ghostbusters is pure drivel. The only sets that even had a proper magic IP worldbuilding and set theme were the ones that just 1:1 copied it from existing worlds, ie Brother's War and Ravnica 3.0
K A L A
no color has ever been power creeped as much in the history of this game as red has been in the past few years
Which goes into the cauldron? I am mostly having trouble with all of the jail enchantments but lately been seeing a lot of urabrask's forge.
>>94691381That's not green.
>>94691381Well you see red is bad because in Commander you need to remove 120 life instead of 20 life so red needs massive powercreep for Commander!
>>94691381>noooooooooooo>stop burning my face>stop pumping creaturess>stoooooooopyou should improve your skills faggot.
>>94691454it took 6 years for green to get llanowar elves back and its still the worst colorgreen is still not allowed to have:>fog>land destruction>coco/gsz/chord effects>multiple 1 mana ramp spells>explore effectsNone of those would be power creep, they'd just be a return of things green used to be allowed to have. Now every single set sees red get printed new power creeped creatures that kill you on turn 3 unless you chain mass removal, every creature stronger than old legacy burn staples
>>94691504Is jst me or White predates on alot of the things Green should be good at while also adding things from other colours that also makes very well?
>>94691541Sweepers, reparation removal, taxing, token spam, o-ring removal, catch-up advantage?Not exactly greens color pieGreen is supposed to be about:>ramping mana>biggest baddest creatures>creature based draw>creature based removalThe real problem is that the color pie got severely warped when EVERY color got efficient creatures that are now super card draw + damage threats at the same time and survive removal. I mean holy shit Enduring Curiosity just shits on everything in green's history. Draws you 2-4 cards per turn, deals 4 damage per turn after being flashed in, sticks around as an enchantment. Unstoppable Slasher costs 2B and is a 3 turn clock, effectively a 7/3 deathtouch that survives trading in combat, survives a removal spell. What does green get, pay 5 mana for a 6/6 with no evasion and dies to removal but at least it gives you some forests? Lmao
>>94691302Tarkir was ok
>>94691585Remember when one of the "rewards" for having having a green cost on a dual colored card was letting it have a body that equaled its mana cost on top of a keyword?
Black and white as colors just should not have been made and any gimmicks people actually liked about them should have been rolled into the other three colors.
Purple when? It can be the police of colours.
>>94691381You mean black.
>>94691930>Red has polluted the format lately with all variations of RDW, and over the top value cards>The problem is blackAnon, come on.
>>94691697The reward is now +1/+1 of what a creature's stat would normally be.
Why Delirium doesnt work in Pioneer and Standard? Modern Delirium is pretty fun.
>>94691930Oh boy I get to pay 3 mana to kill your 5/3 heartfire hero and take 7 damage
>>94692012You don't have a demon summoning chamber in your house to gain life?
>>94691962I mean, it "works" in standard, it's like a solid tier 3 aggro deck, you have to work harder than the average red aggro list but you can get results.It doesn't work in pioneer because there aren't enough good payoffs, I think emrakul comes close but it's hard to survive until you manage to cast it.
>>94692020against RDW its just a card that says you can tap 3 swamps and lose 2 life at the end of your turn 3 before you die on the swingback
I want to play something very RNG heavy to piss people off when it goes my way
>>94692222vintage dredge is what you need:>mull for bazaar>tap bazaar>dredge like god>win games
>>94692222Creative technique in legacy
Why did wizards power level errata cards like this?It should be:>If Clergy of the Holy Nimbus would be destroyed, any opponent may pay {1}. If they don't, regenerate it.which actually does what the original card says. Instead of>If Clergy of the Holy Nimbus would be destroyed, regenerate it>{1}: Clergy of the Holy Nimbus can't be regenerated this turn. Only your opponents may activate this ability.How many cards in magics history have ever had an activated ability stapled to them by errata? What the fuck. There's no activated ability on this card. It shouldn't become immortal with a cursed totem on the battlefield
>>94692299>clergy are regenerated>areSo If I have 2 Clergy of the Holy Nimbus on board. And opponent pays only for 1, but destroys both, both are regenerated?
>>94692205>he plays annex on turn 3lmao
>>94688051In your example I like the new one better. BRO was such a great set in terms of aesthetic.
>>94688406>there's finally going to be a planeswalker that Solemity can nullify
>>94692546>i can't fucking spell Solemnitygrim
>>94692299The way it is written sound like they were try to say:When this card is destroyed or takes lethal damage regenerate it unless an opponent pays 1.If your take were to be correct it would be written like:If Clergy would be destroyed or takes lethal damage it regenerates unless opponent pays 1.
Does Foundation have a lot of reprinted cards? I noticed a lot cards have attractive females.
>>94691930>>94692020Commander player hands typed this post.
>>94692449Nta and I disagree in a lot of places, but cards like Frontliner really capture that classic feel. I wish the whole set had been that gritty.>>94692770It's primarily reprints, but some of the new art looks pretty good too. WotC might've eased up on the art direction a bit.
>>94693047>>94693047>>94693047
>>94692299a lot of old cards needed new wording to actually work in the rules, sometimes because they never worked and sometimes because the rules changed. they did a bad job of this because there is no money in it and they don't care. Legends is the worst set for it because the designers didn't know how to play Magic (kind of like today actually) so a lot of cards needed touching up. Clergy is but one example.these Ivory Guardians used to work by creature type and "guardian" was used as a type until 2002 (although I don't think it was eliminated until the grand creature type update of 2007). letting this card buff Clerics or anything else would be way too broken so they can't do that, instead we get some functional errata.
>>94687974Magic's aesthetic during the old frame erabefore Mirrodin was it's truest form.
