Empire Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0HWarhammer Chronicles: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zipTime of Legends: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zipET: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zipTOW: https://gofile.io/d/ffbanDhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>94661694>Thread QuestionThe Empire preorders broke the damn website. Is the Empire really that popular?
>open a random piece of taped bubble wrap>find two packmastersNo idea where these guys came from
>>94685241those are some suspiciously pointy ears for an Empire captain
Enough anime girls with pointy ears in the catalog.
>>94685291That is a fight you will never win
>>94685241>TQYes. In fact the Empire is THE MOST POPULAR faction in Fantasy.No other other faction in TOW or AoS managed to break the website like the Empire did.
ahhhh 8th edition... SOVL.
>>94685310you haven't been on the GW website very long have you?
>>94685367I often wonder if the most vocal critics of 8th edition when it launched are now the most vocal fans, I'm willing to bet there is a ton of crossover, clowns like Blaxhill for example.
>>94685444everybody with an IQ over 70 has been a vocal 8th supporter since launch actually. dr blaxill is a professor at oxford, you put the fries in the bag.
>>94685453Why do you like 8th, anon?
>>94685506because infantry actually functions in it
I know the War of Sand and Snow was a big war that people were hoping for a book on (at some point in the nebulous future), but what would they realistically do for it?I feel like both of the unique armies the could have added are already in the Arcane Journals (Nehekharan Royal Host and Wolves of the Sea), and they wouldn't have any new characters to add, because we already have Settra and nobody cares about Khagul Bloodfist.They could add scenario battles and special rules for playing games in Nehekhara and Norsca, but that wouldn't really be enough to justify a campaign book.The only thing I can think to do to actually flesh out the campaign book, is to have Arkhan be the one to encourage the Norscan invasion, and then have him try and take over Nehekhara while Settra is away as some great scheme, and have half the book focus on that.
Do you have enough Faith, Steel, & Gunpowder Anon?
>>94685512How so?
>>94685565by not being useless.
>>94685573
>>94685512If that's your only reason, I don't think your argument about intelligent players enjoying 8th holds water.
>>94685537>involve arkhanWhy? Its a simple story that doesent need much more. Some norse raiders invaded, killed settra and stole all his shit. Settra got better, founf out all his shit was stolen and went to go get it back: queue the story of his campaigns and the various people he has to fight to get it back. If you want to flesh it out, actually explore that. Did the wealth influx to norsca shift the balance of power, did it have a destabilizing effect where you now have some very wealthy and storied raiders using their newfound loot to finance attempted conquests? Did they trade some of it away? Maybe to the norse dwarfs that are their neighbours. If you need some new characters you can explore some more of settras forces, not like nekaph is the only noteworthy dude the greatest king of nehekhara has in his service, and then you have plenty of space for varioys chaos/ogre/greenskin/dwarf characters as the enemies he has to face, empire too if some marineburger ended up with some coins he shouldnt have.
>>94685634just put the fries in the bag.
>>94685649It would be more constructive to actually explain your points. An edition is not judged by one category of unit being good.
>>94685009Warmaster is a GW warhammer fantasy game.
>>94685746>An edition is not judged by one category of unit being good.thats literally how editions are judged, actually. herohammer, dragonhammer, etc.
Should stonehorns/thundertusks be on their own or in a unit of mournfangs?
>>94686051Monsters cant join units. So theres your answer.
>>94685649In Britain they're called biscuits
I got a question for people who have built/rebuilt/repainted an army for TOW. Did you paint and theme your army around a canon faction in the game, do /yourguys/, or just do them as generic guys so you can run them as whatever?
>>94686149ALWAYS do /yourguys/
>>94686103and they eat them with beans
>>94686201And they call that mean a Creamy Sir Hamglington of Shchershetshire.
Anyone here really familiar with 5th ed? Specifically looking for someone to answer questions regarding skirmishers being charged by rank and formation troops.
hmm, yup. Empire just isnt that cool
>>94686149My Bretonnian Exiles will be a free company of /mydoods/, I'm basing them off of a mixture of old official art, historical Hundred Years' War armies, historical mercenaries, and shitty medieval historical fantasy pulp manga.My lore for them is they were literally who no-name Errants who survived that one battle scenario between Sir Cecil Gastonne and Settra and then got waylaid in Tilea, now they're a huge veteran merc company adventuring off doing their own thing.
>>94686365Empire is a C tier faction, they're the WFB equivalent of 40k marinepigs. They just have nothing special going on aside from being the face of the setting
With the empire releasing I think I'll be doing a shit ton of chaotic modifications, lots of verdigris and oil as well. Any idea what state I should go with? I'm thinking nordland maybe
>>94685779That is how editions are differentiated, yes, but that's not sufficient to assess an edition's worth. There's more to an edition being good or bad than simply "infantry good" or "dragons op". If an anon wants to defend 8th, he ought to at least form complete arguments. 8th isn't a bad game - there are plenty of valid reasons to like it. There's a reason many competitive players consider it to be the best edition (even if I personally think they couldn't be further from the truth). I don't want to argue about which edition is better. I want anons to formulate proper arguments when defending their point! I want to understand why people like 8th ed! I want to understand why they don't, too.
People either like 6th or they like 8th because those were the editions they started in. Everyone knows the true master edition is 4th
>>94686149>do /yourguys/Always
>>94686161>>94686455I didn't ask what you think one should do, I asked what you did
>>946864484th is nice too.Curious on your perspective if you've played both it and Herohammer and which was your preference and why.4th/5th are the editions I'm trying to get a grasp of and starting into WFB.
>>94686149It doesn't really count because I play chaos, but I continued building an army I had originally started to play 6th and themed my army around characters that I named myself, each bearing the mark of chaos undivided and my regiments, which I also named, bearing a variety of marks. So, in a sense, I did do /mydudes/.
>>94686479I did /yourdudes/, like I said I did. I always do this, I see no point otherwise.
Does anyone know what the Demigryph unit size is? Want to know how many of these to get, I love the sculpts.
Where would you get normal non vampire / chaos-y wolves from? Need some for a teutogen guard unit filler.
>>94686696space wolves
>>94686696Fenrisian Wolf Pack?
>>94686696Goblin wolf riders but without the goblims
>>94686696Reaper minis does a variety of wolves, there's tons of wolves on Etsy, any other place you get minis of any kind will probably have wolves.
>gw shilling ulric worshippers hard by making their shit really good
>>94686847geee i wonder why cavalry is so good now that brets are the post boys...
>>94686149I painted my guys, I did paint my Greatswords like the Carroburg ones, just to make them stand out from the lot.(and the story about how they got a red unifoom is pretty neat.)
I just checked the GW site. I assume they will release the rest next week? I'm looking forward the Warrior-Priests more than resin Forge world models.
>>94686984It will take a little bit longer than that. Maybe a month.
Beastmen fucking when
Is there any reason you'd want a BSB to be alone and not within a unit?
>>94687130We know High Elves are next, and then there are only two armies left, Beastmen and Wood Elves.
>>94687133If youre from planet retard, like i am. But hes usually behind a 30 man brick of infantry
>>94687187I know they've said Skaven and Counts are not going to be around (at least for awhile, we all know they'll end up releasing them if OW makes cash) is there a legitimate lore reason for either to not be in-game though?
>>94687207I run my wizard alone because it looks cool and I don't want him getting ganked by an unlucky hit
>>94687209They just weren't very active at the time TOW is set. Skaven especially were busy with a long running civil war in the Under Empire. This long period where they were busy amongst themselves is why a lot of people in Warhammer Fantasy thought they were a myth
>>94687209>is there a legitimate lore reason for either to not be in-game though?no
>>94686053Oh, turns out I'm a sillyhead, thanks
>>94686696https://www.myminifactory.com/
>>94687225I thought this was the period the Red Duke was running around doing his thing?
>>94687133Apart from having him very mobile, like on a fast mount or a chariot or something, so his Banner bubble can get where it is needed in the same round.
>>94687133Yes, but only in one, maybe two, extremely niche scenarios. If your BSB does not have a magic standard and you don't need the +1 combat resolution he can provide, it can be smart to keep him behind your regiments so that he doesn't get shot to death. However, that's a completely retarded thing to do because he'd be safer in an actual unit thanks to Look Out Sir. The second scenario would be if your BSB had some form of shooting, such as the RRR, the banner of wrath in 6th or just a bow or a gun of some sort, you might want to keep him moving as an independent character for the sake of LOS and not getting stuck in combat. Remember that your BSB is incredibly important for you and incredibly valuable for your opponent. Keep him alive at all costs.
>>94686984second wave could be a while away, unlikely its next week.
>>94687325>Keep him alive at all costs.I have mine in an unga bunga Impetuous + Great Weapon unit with a 5+ and nothing else
I got a Slaanesh lord on dragon (old forest dragon model) second hand years ago and finally got him painted. Yet all I ever see is people running Nurgle instead. How do you build a Slaaneshi Choas Lord?
>>94685241>TQi'm not sure it's not like anything outside BB and the Teutogen Guard seemed to have sold out and that's only in the UK store
>>94686424It's also, in this instance, a fucking stupid argument because infantry in 8th was terrible unless employed in very specific, very limiting ways and was hard-countered by any army with sufficient spellcasting. At least in 6th a sufficiently competent general could outplay cavalry they couldn't outfight head-on, in 8th you just mashed your big blobs into your enemy's big blobs in the middle of the table and hoped the dice were kind - or they did have sufficient magic and your blobs just evapourated. The idea that 8th has anything to do with intelligence is genuinely a hilarious joke, it was the most braindead fantasy game GW ever made until they made AoS.
>>94688491>generals>8th slander >calling Aos dumbed down when we had the glory of the launch and 2e Uh oh secondary detected
>>94687133Plenty. If you put it on a large target, you get a big bsb bubble. Some people swear by putting them on a heavy chariot with a war banner / other combat res banner. Being solo can help the bsb avoid combat.Personally, I like having a captain on pegasus with dragon bow and bsb. He's hyper mobile for repositioning / dodging combat and has decent little plinking shots. I might also start putting the hammerhand armour on him so he is at least somewhat threatening if he charges into a side or something.
>>94686725Thank you anon, will probably go with those.
Anons if I place a unit buffing character or spell upon a regimental unit does the effect spread to the wings/detachments? I can't find clarification in book or blind.
>>94688826Special rules and abilities don't splash unless otherwise stated, page 282 The core rulebook says a regiment splashes Frenzy, Hatred, Immune to Psychology, and Stubborn to its detachments if the detachments are within 3", on page 283. I don't think any other rules specify that they splash.
I only ever played 6e. I was about to give the 7e a chance but the local WFB scene died. How is TOW compared with those two editions? Is it any better? What kind of issues does it fix?
>>94688839thank you, I guess magnifier is a dogshit item then unless they faq it.
I think the shitmar cannons look great as great cannons when you simplify them. It's a bummer the kits crew is 32mm and is unusable.
>>94688850It would've been dogshit regardless, handgunners are awful and not worth trying to buff. Mostly I wish it would have been 25-30 points. A level 2 master mage of daemonology with magnifier + wizards staff hanging out in outriders / road wardens would've been incredible.
>>94683883 Someday I'll put together a list of "Chaos Undivided roster" that will make all these others pale in comparison.I know of secret units that nobody else has bothered to document
>>94688899>checkedI'm not a big crunch guy kinda fluffy list but I see your point. Reel me in w the demonology pick on the mounted wizard, what's the benefit to outriders from that.
>>94688919I gathered so much stuff
>>94688849Haven't played 6th edition but heard TOW ends up playing rather similar from pretty much everybody who has. Heroes, monsters, and cav are the meta. Combat res is set up so it's hard for anything but super chaffy units to break after the first round of combat. Magic is split into spell categories that each get cast in different parts of the turn, and it is very powerful. Unfortunately level 4 or bust. In terms of it's better or worse though, more people seem to say 6th is better but not by a huge margin.
>>94688921In this hypothetical, he could have the magnifier to make the outriders better, while also casting the summoning at +3.
>>94688940>>94688921Also, if he gets daemonic vessel, the outriders could get an extra point of ap.
I'm surprised we got no Warbands-like DLC yet.
>>94685433I have, which is why I reiterate the Empire's popularity, and that because of it the Website bugged out. And again, no other TOW or AoS faction ever did that.
Why did the High Elf grossed out by Malekith potential incestual relationship with his half- sister but not Finubar potential incestual relationship with his daughter?
>>94689011expected after the arcane journals are all out
>>94688935tow isnt similar to 6th stop spreading this meme
>>94689159They weren't grossed out.
>>94689217Yes it is
>>94689235In TOW, not 6th>no power/dispel pools for magic>no magic phase at all>infantry is actual dogshit>percentage based army selection rather than slots>which in turn means a lvl 4 wizard or uber mega kill lord is an auto include at 1k, often both at 2k >different combat res mechanics>different Fear mechanics>AP and Strength are split>no range guessing>random charges>8th ed army roster>dragonlord/monster meta>moreBut yeah TOW is just like 6th ed kek
6th didn't have dragonspam?
>>94689291no
>>94689011No way, TOW is too popular. Warbands is perfect for new players who want to dip a toe in the game. I'd bet that we get a Warbands book eventually, after all the core armies are out. And I'd bet they'll do FOMO Warbands discount boxes along side it. A free PDF now would be a fun thing for existing players. A big deal launch later, when all the core armies are out and there's a mature community around TOW, would be a perfect onramp for new players.
>>94685241Can I have some quick concepts for short WFRP scenarios? My friends just asked me to run a one-shot for them on New Year's Eve and I'm a bit out of inspiration when it comes to fantasy currently
>>94687563Well, let's first consider why people are running the mark of Nurgle. Making your opponent re-roll 6s to hit in the combat phase means your lord avoids poisoned attacks often and is generally harder to hit. This is incredibly helpful, as it lets him stay alive longer and lets you cheap out on defensive magic items.On the other hand, the mark of Slaanesh gives you +1 initiative during the first round of combat and allows you to ignore all panic tests. That's not bad, by any means. However, the reason why competitive players aren't playing slaaneshi lords on dragons is because the mark doesn't really do anything for you, as a) your dragon lord will almost certainly be getting the charge, which already gets you a pretty fat initiative bonus, meaning the extra +1 initiative doesn't really matter in most situations, b) your dragon lord will not be getting panicked (though it is still nice to be able to ignore it if it does happen, see curse of cowardly flight).However, none of that matters. The real reason why competitive players take the mark of Nurgle is because it's the best mark for a chaos lord on a dragon. They don't care about why their chaos lord worships Nurgle. They aren't painting him up special and with love. They're just picking the mark that the math tells them to pick. If you want to take a lord with the mark of Slaanesh, you should definitely do it. In fact, once you paint him up, post him in the thread so we can look at him and say how cool he is.As for how you'd build him, probably the same way everyone else builds their dragon lord(s). Lance, shield, dragon (this is the important part), crown of everlasting conquest, enchanting aura, something like that. Alternatively, you could give him more thematic magic items, but that's up to you.
>>94689395the most basic WFRP scenario is generally >PC show up in place>festival or event happening at place>PCs notice something sinister>PCs investigate as no one in authority believes them>chaos cult or necromancer is doing something shady in seid place>PCs must stop themthis is the very basic framework for 60% of all WFRP adventures
>>94689395All of your players are suitors trying to catch the eye of a wealthy, beautiful, and available widow at a fancy party. But then goblins attack. Your players must defeat the goblins and secure the love of the lady by any means necessary.
Okay, about the Warhammer RPG...So I rolled a character, I rolled a race, a job, and stats. I got a retarded human noble, and whatever.I understand that I get 50% off for skills and talents that are listed on the class sheet, but the part I keep not understanding is how the fuck do I do anything at all. The book explains there are modifier like +30 if very easy, +0 if normal, and so on, but it doesn't seem to explain what exactly I need to do. I thought I needed to roll under my stat to succeed, but it doesn't work with the +30 easy modifier. Could someone please explain? Sorry in advance, it's probably explained somewhere but I missed it.
>>94689195>>94689336Horus Heresy got a Zone Mortalis expansion shortly after the 2nd edition launch and then a full update in one of their campaign books. It's quite odd GW didn't try to bait people not willing to build big armies with a White Dwarf ruleset. It would require next to no effort on their side.
>>94689468TOW has way higher growth potential than Horus Heresy
>>94689462+30 bonus is added to your stat value for sake of a given test, not to the roll result. So if you have 30 in a stat and get a +30 modifier you need to roll under 60 to succeed. Do I understand correctly that this is the part you're confused about?
>>94689480I believe so. But to be sure, this is something like:>roll to punch Karl Franz in the testicle>got a strength of 39>got a skill of testicle punching 2>get +20 modifier because he's not wearing a cod piece>(39+2+20)= 61>roll 1d100>roll 60>Karl Franz falls to his knees, cryingIs that correct?But then what about degrees of success? It's +1 degree for every different of 10 between the target and the dice got, right?
>>94689462rolling a noble is pretty luckyas for roll modifiers i always thought that was meant to increase the bar you have to roll under not adding a 30+ to the roll itself
>>94689503Yeah, that's what the other Anon explained.For laugh, my friend rolled his own character, he got a peasant.
>>94689395Not sure if fantasy has a new years celebration to make it topicalBut they decide to burgle using a celebration as a distractionDuring the heist they run into Skaven doing the same thingGives them a bit of roleplay to figure out a plan, some tests to get into the building(s) and find the loot, then some combat
whats the maximum number of orc infantry I can realistically field?I just want an excuse to collect orc infantry, including the regular mob and black orcs
>>946895192000/price of an orc
>>94689509>my friend rolled his own character, he got a peasant.yeah that's pretty common, least changing career isn't that hard in 4e.
>>94689499>+2 Ah, so it's 4th edition clusterfuck of an advancement systemAnyway, yes, you are correct, except the actual effect of the attack depends on damage and stuff, which indeed depends on degrees of success among other things, per the combat rules. And yeah, every 10 you suceed/fail by is 1 extra degree of success/failure Also, you roll weapon skill, not strength, to hit somebody. Strength does increase melee damage though
>>94689479Honestly, I feel like 30k could expand into 40k Historical, and could go all the way up to before Gathering Storm, there is just that much of a disconnect between modern 40k and 3rd-7th 40k.
>>94689540I see. Thank you, I get it now. I'm still not ready to GM a game, but I think I get the basics now.One last question : how do I check what edition I'm using? I think I'm using the last one, but my book's in French, so I assume they skipped the edition number to not have people ask where past eds are.
>>94689567>how do I check what edition I'm using?go to the front of the book it should say the company that produced the book and who wrote itwe can however assume it's not 3e since your game is using the d100 rather than the weird system from third edition
>be me >pretend to play this game for months >finally read the rulebook >it's ass Total let down
>>94689584Yeah, you're right, it was 4E.Maaan, Chaos Warriors really are fucking tough, then.
Anyone around here plays slaanesh demons? I wanna do a 1k army but I don't know enough about them and I have questions.
>>94689599yeah they are, theirs a reason most Villain are chaos cultists rather than full on Warriors of Chaos
>>94689567By what you've said I'm 90% sure it's the 4th one, but here are the covers of all editions' core rulebook covers in order, from 1 to 4. Although some regional editions have different covers. 2 and 4 are most popular picks, they both have their pros and cons in my opinions but ultimately aren't extremely different from each other. 4 is a bit more crunchy. 1st edition still has a following as well for a bit more old school vibe. 3 was weird and much more game'y. It's mostly forgotten, but does have a small niche of fans as well
>>94689602I'm sitting on about 50 of the old Diaz daemonettes and I'm wondering the same. Unfortunately they don't look too good rules wise, so I'm happy sticking to using them as witch elves for daughters of khaine in AoS. Maybe looking into dark elves for rules in ToW is not a bad idea.
>>94689612I mean, the Eisenhorn books made it clear that even a normal Chaos Space Marine is a beast, but in Warhammer Fantasy, it feels even more impressive.It also means that the Ubersreik Five are pretty amazing themselves to face Chaos Warriors and kill them rather easily.It's somehow inspiring and pretty amazing that "normal" humans can stand against damned and win.>>94689623Nah, I checked the printing notes, it was the 4E. It also looks like the far right now. But that second from the left looks fucking cool.And I already love 4E because the amount of crap there's in, I love it. So many ways to die, and so many gods I didn't even know existed. I want to play a duelist of Myrmydia, one that never attacks an enemy in the back.
>>94689632I mean I don't care about having a top tier army but I'd like to win some of the games at least so I have questions about units.>I'm sitting on about 50 of the old Diaz daemonettesI envy you.
>>94689640>It also means that the Ubersreik Five are pretty amazing themselves to face Chaos Warriors and kill them rather easily.Video games always have skewed powerscales in any direction. Imagine them in WFRP 4e, the horde rules alone would mean that the characters get easily overwhelmed.On the other hand, characters in 4e can get pretty strong. The systems deadliness tends to be vastly overstated (aside from throwing multiple trolls at your characters at the start of the game).
>>94689588I know how you feel. I play a lot of rank and flank games, but due to player availability I find myself playing TOW more often than not. The problem is that the rules really are a bit shittier than a lot of other rank/flank games, the only explanation I can think of as to why TOW has a lot of available players is simply because it's a GW IP, not because it's a superior game. The majority of players have NEVER played a single game not produced by GW, and the few that have tried other games have only played other pop culture slop like Marvel Crisis protocol or Star Wars, etc.
>>94689675im pretty sure the ubersreik five have official 4e stat lines
>>94689688And that doesn't change what I said.Four of them fighting a chaos warrior isn't the problem, but I bet they would have some problems dealing with the amount of skaven they usually face during the missions.
>>94689640>Ubersreik Five are pretty amazing themselves to face Chaos Warriors and kill them rather easily.Don't equate gameplay from vidya to lore. Vermintide was most accurate in the first game where a Skaven chieftain was a massive threat to the whole party.>>94689652Ask them. I'm no expert on ToW and especially not on daemons, but I'm happy to try and help a fellow degenerate appreciator. Some anons with more experience might pipe up too.>I envy you.I got a good deal on them, but it was still pretty expensive. The new hedonite models were just too good not to start a small collection. Unfortunately slaanesh relied on summoning and spamming KoS, so the rules never interested me.
>>94689676New to this, could I get some recommendations of rank and flank systems you think are better? A short explanation of why you think so would also be greatly appreciated
>>94689676That's because 40k/AoS/Fantasy players aren't wargame fans, they're warhammer fans
>>94689676>pop culture slop That's the sad part, Warhammer is officially pop culture slop instead of being a niche space fantasy setting for mildly autistic right wing men. When I was playing as a teen most people had never even heard of Warhammer except the few people who maybe played Dawn of War, nowadays literally everyone I know knows what Warhammer is. The Amazon show is the nail in the coffin
>>94689762>right wing menTo be in a creative hobby you are always more left leaning albeit.
>>94689742I started with 40k before moving to Fantasy. I've tried a few non GW games, and most of them are too dead to want to get into. I collected an army for ASOIAF before coming to the conclusion that I be hate the rules. I wouldn't say I'm a Warhammer fan specifically, but there's not really a better option around me with an active player base, cool minis, and decent rules. Might start Conquest but the one Conquest mini I built fit together the worst of any mini I've built, and it's kinda hit or miss on how the armies look.
>>94689719Too bad in my country they're pretty rare to find and whoever has them does not want to sell theirs. I don't see myself being able to get diazmonettes in the near future.>Ask themAlright. Taking into consideration that it's a 1k army:>Are seeker chariots and hellflayers worth it?>Should I have two lvl 2 wizard heralds leading the army or get for the same amount of points a lvl 2 wizard daemon prince? I'm not really considering a keeper because it seems too strong for smaller games of 1k >Should I put my daemonettes all together in a huge unit of 30+ or divide them into two smaller units?>Should I even consider furies when I have seekers?
>>94689800Cope. The entirety of western canon is created by men that would be considered tight wing extremists today. Leftoids create ugly and SOVLless shit like brutalism, slam poetry and abstract art >>94689823>too dead to want to get into This is only a problem for people who play with randos instead of real friends
>>94689800>you are always more left leaningNah, you just paint swastikas on all your banners/shoulderpads and you're good to go.
>>94689858>western canon At least half of those authors were outcasts and considered freaks of their time. So yeah, left leaning.
Karl Franz actually looks decent on foot.
>>94689886He looks like a breedable white woman
>>94689858nta but abstract art was something pushed by the CIA in the cold war as it meant no one could form a cohesive political perspective on the artworkwould hardly call the CIA a left wing organization
>>94689886I think he needs different legs, that pose is very stilted.
>>94689858>considered tight wing extremists today and would have been considered left wing for their time, yes that's how society typically works
>>94689886>>94689892You may consider cutting the legs at the joints and reposing them. I did that with plastic Arkhan and Mannfred years ago (I since gave both away as gifts, maybe I'll find some photos on my hard drive later today).
>>94689891>was something pushed by the CIA in the cold war as it meant no one could form a cohesive political perspective on the artworkI thought it was "because its so out there and weird", which would help show how accepting of artistic expression the west is relative to the communists. >>94689762>instead of being a niche space fantasy setting for mildly autistic right wing menAnon the portrait of thatcher wasnt on that banner as an endorsement.
>>94689917I would consider just finding some other models with suitable legs (maybe one of the empire captains) and frankenstein-ing it
>>94689920i've heard both explanations for why the CIa funded abstract art
>>94689875>>94689903>source: just trust me bro! Repeat it all you want, that doesn't make it true kek
>>94689858Even when I lived close to friends, it's rather hard to convince people to pick up a game system. I would also be reticent to pick up a game system on friend recommendation considering I ended up hating ASOIAF
>>94689858My friends don't play tabletop games, let alone wargames. It's not unreasonable to mostly (if not entirely) play with people at your LGS. And they won't stay randos for long if you play them often.
Are bestigors on par with chaos warriors
>>94689886repose those legs
>>94689964No, chaos warriors have 1 more point of weaponskill and 1 more point of leadership.
>>94689971So I guess chosen are out of the question as well
>>94689986Yes. Beastmen are generally cheaper than chaos warriors (and especially chosen) and are therefore less powerful individually. However, if you meant to ask if a unit of bestigors is on par with a unit of chaos warriors in terms of power and utility, I would say the bestigor unit is significantly stronger right now.
>>94689964No, theyre MUCH better. You get +1M and warband to reroll failed charges, and you have primal fury to let you reroll 1s to hit. In return chaos warriors get +1WS and +1LD (and worse weapons). Bestigors are very good, especially for infantry, chaos warriors are absolute crap.
>>94689943>2+ 2 = 4>UUUUUUUUH SOURCE????
>>94690028Leftism didn't exist until enlightenment era thought, no one before the enlightenment was a "leftist." "Leftist" doesn't mean "slightly eccentric person for his time period" you fucking mong hahaha
>>94689932You could run into scale issues that way, and it's much easier to just change the pose on your current bits with some wire and gs.
>>94690035>men that would be considered right wing extremists todayYou're the first one who talked about people from the past in lenses of modern left/right wing politics you retard. What anon meant is that in their days those people weren't considered conservative, traditional or consistent with any other value we associate with the concept of "right wing". And you know that very well
Get a room you rotbrain polshit faggots. And back to on-topic discussion, here's that box I mentioned a couple days ago.
And here's the sprues.
>>94690085I wanna like skeletons but assembling them and keeping them from falling apart always keeps me away from the undead.
>>94690095>90% of necromancers give up and raise zombies before they hit the jackpot on the skeleton spell
>>94689849>>Are seeker chariots and hellflayers worth it?In the few games I've played, I haven't actually faced a single chariot, but from what I've heard they are what you generally want to bring alongside cavalry. >>Should I have two lvl 2 wizard heralds leading the army or get for the same amount of points a lvl 2 wizard daemon prince? I'm not really considering a keeper because it seems too strong for smaller games of 1kI'd say DP, as having a good beatstick is pretty vital in ToW>>Should I put my daemonettes all together in a huge unit of 30+ or divide them into two smaller units?Smaller units. Infantry isn't great in the current rules to begin with, and concentrating them into a huge block doesn't count for much. >>Should I even consider furies when I have seekers?Vanguard isn't nothing, and having a relatively cheap skirmishing unit out on the field can cause a good disruption where you need it. I wouldn't count them out completely, but I'd focus on seekers.Like I said though, I've only played so many games and none with daemons. Take everything I've said with a grain of salt, but I hope it helps and I wish you luck in your games anon.
>>94689849If you want to use a daemon prince but you still want to use a proper slaaneshi model, you could hunt down one of the old metal keepers of secrets. They're about the size of a daemon prince and they fit on a 50x50mm base. I have no other advice to give beyond that, but I'm really looking forward to seeing your army. Slaanesh armies are always beautiful.
>>94690095You can pin them if you're so afraid of that, but in my personal experience they don't fall apart more than any other multipart kit. The bonding surface is enough for such light pieces.
>roll complete>human noble has 10 HP>have a doubt>halberd would deal whatever I roll, +6 damage because of strength + bonusHell. My character would only stand two hits of the death stick.>>94689675>>94689719I mean, they're meant to be experienced after fighting through Vermintides 1. They'd be hero in the first game, and Lords in the seconds, I think.
>>94690132 (only considering canon careers, so no alt vanilla classes and no paid classes)>VictorMordheim champion in 1, Mordheim gang leader (wargame hero) in 2>SiennaHero across both games>MarkusUnit champion in 1, Hero in 2 (foot knight sergeant has no rules, captain is the closest proxy)>BardinGeneric unit member in 1, Unit champion in 2>KerillianSame as above
>>94690132>They'd be hero in the first game, and Lords in the seconds, I thinkNot a single lord level character (besides a level 4 wizard) would mow through as many enemies as the players do in your average veteran level match of VT2. A level 4 wizard is lore-wise extremely rare, they're everywhere on the tabletop because you can't compete without one.As for what tier they are, going by the career titles in the first game they're elite infantry/low tier hero. At best they get to Hero tier in 2. Still not enough to kill 1000+ rats and chaos worshippers in the span of 30 minutes. Nothing in the setting besides an Archaon tier character could achieve something like that.
>>94690169Oh, I mean stats wise, not class wise.Class wise, Markus can be a Hunter. That's like Empire Infantry tier 0. And I think Bardin in 2 starts as a ranger. Ranger Veteran, yeah, but ranger still.
>>94690187I thought Sienna barely even qualified as a mage? I saw mages in Total War cast burning skulls the size of a house.
>>94690058I said they'd be considered right wing TODAY, to which anon said they were leftists. I'm comparing ancient morality to modern morality, it doesn't matter how they were in their times, because I'm making comparison to the morality of TODAY, in which case it's ridiculous to call them leftists. Regardless of all of that, the idea that they were not conservative or traditional for their own era is completely made up and has no actual historical bearing, it's based on the premise that MODERN art fags tend to be more left leaning, so it makes the assumption that this must have been the case throughout all of history but it's simply false and a baseless claim. We can go all the way back to ancient history and see Aeschylus at the end of his life wanting to be remembered for his valor in battle at Marathon, he doesn't mention his creative work once despite being the most famous artfag of his era. We see this same thing for all of history with the supposed "leftist" creative types, who even up through the Victorian were typically very conservative and traditional men for their era. "Creative types" being leftist is entirely a post WW2 phenomenon and the idea it's timeless is spread by homofaggot academics and retards like you and the other anons ITT who mindlessly parrot it
>>94690188Those are non-canon options. Legit ones are as these:>WHC>Battle Wizard>Foot Knight>Ranger Veteran>Waystalker
>>94690197sienna in thory could cast a burning head that big but she might not be able to cast anything else for some timeVermmintide time doesn't really simulate the wind of magic and just relies on the burn out meter
>>94690250I mean, I'll be honest, I never understood these myself. All I know is that "losing control", whatever that actually means, means that the warp opens under you, and you're dragged to a realm of infinite suffering for eternity.
>>94690024I wonder why chaos warriors didn't get the warband special rule. That's how they organize themselves, each regiment being a warband unto itself. It's odd! I don't want to sound conspiratorial, but it seems like the rules-writers really didn't like chaos warriors very much. They just don't do anything.
>>94690273>They just don't do anything.They just drink tea, and lay around. And if you ask them, to do anything,they just tell you, they don't do anything.
>>94690273the writers didn't like anyone but Bretonnia and Beastmen, start with a B and you're home free.
>>94690273>I wonder why chaos warriors didn't get the warband special rule.For the same reason they dont have shieldwall while marauders do.
>>94690197Like I said, gameplay doesn't accurately represent the lore.
>>94690070I love these skellies so much. I bought like 30 from Z but the shitty resin recast made some of them a nightmare to put together, so there are some that rank up awkwardly. Not to mention a few look like shit (most are goos though). I would kill for a box of these skellies professionally made. Btw did you get it from WH Treasury? I seem to remember a box or 2 of these a few months back on there but they disappeared before I got to them
>>94690224>Regardless of all of that, the idea that they were not conservative or traditional for their own era is completely made up and has no actual historical bearing, it's based on the premise that MODERN art fags tend to be more left leaning, Well no, it's based on the idea that creative are typically the ones with radical ideas anon. This isn't a novel concept and you're being deliberately obtuse
>>94690112>>94690123Thank you for answers
>>94690388Chariot based (not glued in place yet, might need to seal the basing in with varnish). Still not sure what color to do the tassels. Or if I should have done the hooves on the juggernauts some special special color but its a bit late for that now. On the whole im pretty pleased with how it turned out, the brass in particular I like, even if its less "brass" and more "rusty metal" with the effect the sepia wash has.
>>94690226>>Foot KnightShouldn't it be Mercenary? It's a direct continuation of his Sergeant class in V1.
>>94690467>radical ideas are always left wing Come on mate
>>94690477That... wasnt meant to be a response to anyone. Soz. Heres the chariot with a mockup for its rider once I get that model sorted (current plan is to convert the chosen unit champion a little bit, hence the mockup). For once I even have a name im pretty happy with, Ajtes (pronounced Ay-tees)
>>94690482>>94690226They even have dialogue that in 1 had Keri refer to him as "Sargeant" and "Mercenary" in 2, I feel that's more default than him getting a miraculous invitation to a fucking Knighthood Order even though, as far as anyone knows, he's a peasant with a foreign mother.
>>94690436I got them from an oldfag who was selling off excess backlog from his army building project (he had these, another box of skellies, and resin blood knights plus some characters). I intend to send them to WM, his casts are the best on the market quality wise. The bugger is slow after and it takes him months to ship product, but afaik that's because he runs a small operation and not an industrialised sweatshop.
Chaos spawn chariots
>>94690482>>94690499He's an Empire Knight in the tutorial/intro mission. That's the only one in the game with fixed careers, and so the only reliable source.
>>94690523That could be cool.
>>94690523They're chariots with chaos spawn on them
>>94690528I'm happy for my boy if that's canon, I just doubt it is.
>>94690528Aren't the DLC careers the canon ones?
>>94690523But what is Chaos spawning chariots for? What does it want?
>>94690523A couple months ago I was starting to plan a bit kitbash/conversion of a tzeentch sorcerer lord on a chariot. It would have had either chaos spawn or screamers of tzeentch pulling a completely hand-sculpted chariot, but I ended up not going forward with the project because it would have been prohibitively expensive and I wouldn't want to use it in an actual game. Still, I like to think about what could have been sometimes.
>>94690603No, the canon is that tzeentch is fucking with fate and all the paths exist at the same time or alternate each other while retroactively replacing what came before in a paradoxical schrodinger cat situation.https://www.vermintide.com/news/franz-lohners-chronicle-the-changer-of-waysDon't think about it and do what you want.
>>94690603That feels forced to the extreme. Krubs turning getting blessed by Ze Lady out of fucking nowhere is an asspull and a half, but to be fair every Grail Knight is literally a Deus Ex Machina, so it's not the worse it could be. The outrageous accent is also a great argument in its favor.Keri also always had some latent magic potential as shown in her Hexbane and Trueflight bows even back in 1, but her autism anti-social tendencies make it a bit weird for her to suddenly 180° and buddy up with Ariel and Isha. A bit of a stretchBardin always glazed Cousin Okri™ and we do know he's experienced with bomb-making ever since the first game, but I feel there's a huge leap between a grenade and a gatling gun. It could also be easily explained if he had ever been a miner and used satchel charges. A bit of a stretch. Saltz becoming a warrior priest is a huge change in his lofe, even of he had always been a fervent Sigmarite. I can't help but feel that doing the combat and miracle shit WPs do requires a lot of specialized training Victor never had, as he was busy burning witches, executing suspected vampires and getting shanked by Rodents of Unusual Size.Sienna being a necromancer is such a huge change it doesn't even begin to make sense. Nothing in her story ever pointed to Necromancy, snd even her going for Chaos Sorcery would be more reasonable (even then not really) given she does hear voices telling her to burn shit.
>>94690508Great idea anon. I dont know who WM is but Ill find out and keep an eye on the catalogue. If I see those skellies pop youll have my eternal gratitude.
>>94690603No, they're not.
>>94690686It's a 40k/HH recaster whom I've been pestering for over two years to expand into the fantasy market.
>>94690685>Sienna being a necromancer is such a huge change it doesn't even begin to make sense.Wasn't this one because her twin sister became a necromancer and they fused or something similarly mindfucking occurred?
>>94690633>>94690696All right.I don't like Warhammer's necromancy anyway.>>94690685Yeah, you have a point. I mean, Kruber's and Bardin's are explained by Bardin repressing his ideas because >muh tradition, and we know Kruber is good with a sword, but the others...
>>94690721Kruber's is explicitly not canon because it branches out of the mercenary timeliness, which is itself not canon (he was knighted before U5's capture at the end of Waylaid).
>>94690747>timelineFucking autocorrect.
>>94690747>(he was knighted before U5's capture at the end of Waylaid).Honestly doesn't make much sense. There was never any mention of a Knighthood Order in the 1st game, and the only centers of irganized resistance were focused around>Lohner, Engel and the smuggling network>that one city watch captain near the palace that gives you a bunch of Board quests>the Dwarf QuarterNeither of which ever said anything about there even being a Knighthood Order in Ubersreik. Even when we go to Schluesse-whatever for The Fall Lohner makes a point of saying the fortress was abandoned. There was no Imperial authority in the city besides the guy holed up near the palace.
>>94690840>There was never any mention of a Knighthood Order in the 1st gameThere actually was, Reikshammer Order has its own lorebook entry. They're a secretive order, which explains why there haven't been any mentions of them prior. They're kind of like empire knight black ops.
>>94690874Really? Never got that Entry even with some 500 hours in the game.Live and learn, I guess. I consneed.
>Reading up on the Affair of False Grail.>Come across random character Malory de Mousillon>Is the bastard daughter of Duke Maldred who acted as his champion, pretended to be a boy, and took satisfaction in beating other Knights and showing them her face.>Was taught to use Black Magic and how to fight.>Think is some character added from WFRP.>She's actually from some Quest for the Grail article on the GW site from 2004.Huh.
Been working on some Warriors over Xmas. These guys are supposed to be Undivided, but I think they lean into Nurgle a bit too.
>>94690952Thin your mugs.
>>94690952They look like Malal cultists.
>>94686149I painted my DoW in the "traditional" colours they had in the 5th ed book; greens, reds, white and golds/brass.Then its a matter of varying how you use those colours
>>94690952I love them, anon. Excellent work so far, I can't wait to see how they look when you're done.
what furs do chaos warriors even carry on them, are they just random dogs?
>>94690685>Krubs turning getting blessed by Ze Lady out of fucking nowhere is an asspull and a half, but to be fair every Grail Knight is literally a Deus Ex Machina, so it's not the worse it could be.It's quite literally impossible, because he never took the questing vow, or any knightly vows at all in that version of his story. I've always said that they should have picked a Blood Knight for his DLC class instead, at least that can be explained by him impressing a hermit/errant blood dragon enough to give him the blood kiss. And that could have opened the door to more creative mechanics than "locked&loaded, but melee".
>>94689024Last I saw, Empire didn't sell out at all. So, idk what this copium is.
>>94691014Could be mammoths, manticores or some other megafauna roaming around the northern wastes.
>>94691014Wolves, bears, southern animals (the norse trade far and wide), some mutated monsters, manticores, skinwolves, mammoths, sabretusks, chimera... Theres a lot of shit out there, and chaos warriors will have killed a lot of it. Chaos warriors also travel around a whole lot, theyre not just stationed up north, so they may run into all sorts of exotic beasts elsewhere.
>>94691040>because he never took the questing vow, or any knightly vows at all in that version of his storyNeither did repanse, the lady still chose her.Getting the blessings to become a grail knight is really just "divine whim" rather than something with a proper process, its just that the people the lady looks fondly on tend to be those who do the grail quest.
>>94691086Repanse is not a grail knight, she's an anointed zealot/miracle worker/living saint. Still marked by a deity, but in a different way.
>>94691047Then you must not have seen it well enough.
>>94690952Don't you mean Christmas?
>>94691126Interesting. Still very much not sold out here in the US. In fact, very few things in TOW was sold out in the US, barring Bretonnia and Tomb Kings. Either GW upped their production, or interest is dying.
>>94691040Ze Lady quite literally does whatever the fuck she wants.
>>94685241>TQit's just scalpers
reminder to paint estalians white
>>94691040Counter point, the Lady is a fucking god so she gets to do what the fuck she wants.
>>94690952White and Black is Malal's colour scheme
>>94691303this Lileath is a bitch, she could just have made Kruber a Grail Knight just to fuck with Kerillian
>>94691340Honestly, it'd be fucking hilarious if it was the case. But I was told that Kruber barely qualifies as a grail knight, and his power ingame is like 1% of the power of an actual grail knight.Like, instant regeneration, radiant sword that no balm can heal, never tired, never eating...
>>94690952Based Malal enjoyer. Lookin clean
Are there no better plastic ! landsknect kits than the greatswords? The WGA Conquistadors are so-so
>>94691308>>94691377It's just drab olive green. Light is not on my side.
>>94691403I'm so pissed Greatswords suck, because I love them.
>>94691040Him being a Grail Knight really makes little sense, a Questing Knight or Knight Errant would make more sense.
>>94691126wonder why it sold out in the UK, maybe the UK has higher TOW playerbase. then the US or other marketsthe WoC Battalion box sold out as well
>>94690874>They're kind of like empire knight black ops.>>94690874isn't that the Coldfire knights from the Horned Rat it's not like Vermintide didn't do a lot of references to the Grudgebringers in it's lore articles.
>>94691281not for TOW content
>>94691264Seethe more Muhammad
>>94690603DLC careers are literally "what if' tier.The 3 other careers for each characters are "Bad / Neutral / Good ending" from VT1.Bardin Bad ending >> Slayer.Bardin Good ending >> IronbreakerBardin Neutral ending >> Ranger but now veteran
>>94691403you can literally get landsknechts from warlord games anon...>>94691419they don't
>>94691604>Bardin Bad ending >> Slayer.Is it wrong that I legit love Slayers, all in idea, concept, and how many axes they have? There's just something about throwing something cumbersome and sharp in someone's face that pleases me.>>94691610Found my next Mordhau build.
Are there any good TOW youtube channels? News, lore, hobby, whatevr
This guy. I like this guy.
>>94688878>I think the shitmar cannons look great as great cannonsNo they don't. They look fine as Bret Exile bombards due to a more primitive construction, but they lack the greatness implied by the Great in Great Cannon, and certainly lack greatness for one of the best cannons in the warhammer world.>>94690477>>94690498That's a sick looking chariot Anon, well done.>Still not sure what color to do the tasselsCan't go wrong with a simple red if you can't settle on anything specific. Maybe it could tie-in with the colours of the rider, if he's going to have any distinct colour on him.>AjtesSounds fine. No title? No epithet?>>94690523That is a cool and hilarious idea. Or even spawn that just have platforms nailed into them so they can be used as mounts. See that's the kinda of shit I want from Arcane Journals. Like the old 6th edition wackadoo stuff they printed in White Dwarfs. Does White Dwarf even have TOW articles in them?
>>94691643He's my favourite Bret model. Something about a two-handed axe on horseback just rules.
>>94691208Empire is not so popular in America.
>>94691441He can't have any connections to Bretonnia at all, period. His family are not native reiklanders, they're immigrants from Talabecland.>>94691634>ribbed rubber sole shoeslaughinggobbo.png
>>94691672>That's a sick looking chariot Anon, well done.Cheers!>Maybe it could tie-in with the colours of the rider, if he's going to have any distinct colour on him.Beyond (probably) black armor I havent really got much planned. Im quite a spontaneous painter. >No title? No epithet?Havent come up with that yet, considering "the thunderer" but thats a dwarf unit.
>>94691672>Does White Dwarf even have TOW articles in them?of course!
>>94691727thats one shitty rat ogre
>>94691745I'm 100% convinced that it's a purposefully retarded model that was meant to make higher ups accept something else, like old Nagash's shit eating skeleton face.
>>94691727I realize the absurdity of asking my question only after posting it. White Dwarf magazines are a very different beast that the ones produced during 6th edition. GW kids don't know what they missed out on. It died when Fat Bloke left, and now Fat Bloke is dying. Hope is dead and cringe.
>>94691727it's a painting guide for dwarfs and the previous articles about a TOW campaign going back to the september issues i think
>>94691745That's not a rat ogre, that's obviously a Vyrmynratt Vylebeast Ogorkyn.
>>94691684I wonder who came first, the Axe Bretonnian, or the Axe Banner.Because its very entertaining to consider the possibility that a Bretonnian Duke was just so into his Axe and whacking things with it, the thing became his entire personality and idendity.>>94691720And Kruber was in an Ostlan Regiment. The Empire is for all intents and purposes quite metropolitan, and some towns are proper melting pots. Its not unusual or unheard of that Kruber could have a bretonnian somewhere in his lineage, since Felix Jaegers brother Otto is also married to a Bretonnian woman,
>>94691880Kruber if i recall correctly is from Stromdorf in reikland and was only put into a ostland regiment wa s due to him disagreeing with an officer
>>94691904Yes.
>>94691904That doesn't really disprove my point that Imperial Citizens are shuffled around internally a lot, and especially commoners having heritage from several curious places is not impossible.
>>94691924but it makes a bit more sense for a commoner from a reikland town to related to a bretonnian than a commoner from Ostland would be
>>94691937Certainly.Argueably the commoners in Marienburg and its surroundings would be even more likely to be inter related with Bretonnians, since the Marches of Corounne are an open Border, while Montfort and Helmgart are only connected through a shitty mountain pass.
>>94689719>Don't equate gameplay from vidya to lore. Vermintide was most accurate in the first game where a Skaven chieftain was a massive threat to the whole party.>Gotrek and Felix exist in canon.Anon, I get what you are saying. But the novels and stories in this world frequently bend the lore to make the stories happen. They are harsh to a rule until they suddenly aren't. The Ubersreik 5 are that capable based on existing lore in the books.
Is there any record of a Wood Elf becoming a Grail Knight?
>>94691985What the fuck? No.
>>94692019What if one was secretly an Elf?
>>94690224This guy knows his stuff
>>94692037You can't secretly be an elf in Warhammer.
>>94692047But you can secretly be a Vampire, why not an Elf?
>>94691403I did Perry Agincourt foot knights with Pike and Shotte landsknecht greatswords arms.
>>94691727>of course!That is the THIRD The Old World article ever released within the WD magazines, ever since the game came out; two of them were battle reports iirc.
>>94692053>Ulrika in books is a titcow russian mail bride with a big babushka and hair like a tussock>Ulrika in all fan and official art is as flat as the Ungol steppe and a dyke cutnow that's what I call character assassination
>>94692086Yeah, now she's dead hot
Comparing 5th ed to the Old WorldIf I'm reading this right, the primary difference is in 5th ed the charged skirmishers form up to meet the charging unit in the next turnWhere as in The Old World, this happens immediately on the same turn they are charged, yes?Apparently, in 5th ed there's also a clause that lets skirmishers not engaged continue to move and shoot, but I don't see how that could happen if the skirmishers "must try to move into combat"
Tried to repeat one of my earlier conversions for the head. Ill fill out the cheeks once the neck dries.
Probably gonna combine some left over ghouls with chaos warriors to make some forsaken
>>94692086>Ulrika in books is a titcow russian mail brideShe's literally never described as a titcow. She's always described to be athletic.
Is sigvald the only femboy chaos character
>>94692217>Is sigvald the only femboy chaos characterSigvald isn't a femboy, he's a Twunk.Regardless, what does your heart/loins tell you, Anon?
>>94692086in the books Ukrika is from the notUkrainian stepes and lives along the notCossacks and summer is short but very hotnow Kislev is all ice and bears
>>94692200she's described as buxom in the ET book alone
>>94692249ET isn't canon, you dummy.
>>94691880>>94691904Kruber is from Ubersreik suburbs, where his family owned a farm. He originally enlisted with a local Reikland regiment, and only got sent away to Ostland because he pissed off his CO.
>>94692200>>94692249Big tits and big muscles are not mutually exclusive.
>>94692325Nowhere in the Felix and Gotrek novels are her breasts ever mentioned to be noticeably large, but her riders physique and lean figure is mentioned several times.
>>94692281I'd rather fantasy be dead than what they will retcon with ToW
>>94692358yeah
>>94692358What a hilariously contrarian opinion
>>94692356Not a very good point at all, because nowhere in those books is it conclusively stated that she does NOT have deliciously jiggly bouncy huge badonkas. Your argument is invalid, flat chest man!
>>94692429its already began
>>94692453why does this always come up as some gotcha when in context it talking about an already dead 14 year old
>>94692448Felix would have mentioned it. Or Max.I'm not saying she is flat, but she is certainly not a titcow.
>>94692492Don't feed him, or it will be another 100 posts of sperging.>on-topic models picture (not mine, saved from a thread last year)
>>94692498One source mentioning it and all others not contradicting is proof enough. She's strong AND has big boobs. The exact measurement of her thighs and butt, however, are still in question.
>>94692520Here's a picture of my current project. I don't think it's turning out very well, but at least it's almost complete.
>>94692566pretty cool anon
>>94692566Pretty cool, the fur is awesome. I don't like the halberds, though.
>>94692566Nice and clean. Why are they SW grey-blue? Is there any backstory to their painted plate?
>>94691985Wood Elves are unchivalrous scum.
Hes either trolling or really fucking stupid, whats the point of engaging.
>>94692683What's wrong with Brettonia's lore?
>>94692453Do you also blow a gasket when someone says "girl"?
>>94692683what lore was there to butcher? Bretonnia is easily the shittest, most contrived and least original faction in the setting and it isn't even close. If you care about the lore for Bretonnia you are already a tasteless pleb whose febrile mind was actually drawn to the bottom of the barrel meme faction. It's the same as playing Tau or Cadians in 40k.
>>94692703>new chaos lord model looks like something out of AOSThis model is a discontinued AoS model
>>94692703>seeing as that new chaos lord model looks like something out of AOS.Given AOS chaos and WHFB chaos looks the exact same that means nothing.
>>94692763yeah WHFB chaos was always full of fat women. very astute observation, sis.
Why do people say that the chaos lord thats in metal is a good deal, it feels like a aborted chosen model rather than a lord.
>>94692744fuck off schizo
>>94692779Do you mean the exalted champion? It's not supposed to be a lord, though you could certainly use him as one. It's a good deal because it's a nice, classic model at a price that isn't too exorbitant. I just wish it was available at my LGS, I don't like ordering things online.
>>94692683Female Orcs are a thing but they just operate in the background manipulating the strong, stupid men
>>94691975>Gotrek and Felix exist in canon.Ah yes the literal chosen one of the slayer god and his companion who gets nowhere close the same level. Like I said, only achievable by archaon tier characters.
Arr, crap!
>>94692086And by "character assassination" I mean unquestionable improvement
>>94692880what game is that? There was one warhammer dreadfleet game that had been discontinued years ago I think, real janky.
>>94693086It is it. Man O'War Corsair.I hate how janky it is because it has so much fucking potential. Many ships, each with their own strategies. Sea Monsters with unique loot that can be turned into unique weapons. Dealing with crew and levelling them up. Ship upgrades. Politics. Bounties. Even levelling up.And it's ruined by how janky it is.
>>94692146If I am not mistaken, for 5e, if the skirmishing unit is engaged a much smaller unit (such as a character) and already surround them, then there's no where the other non engaged units can move up to fight.Therefor in that situation, they can move around and shoot.For 6e and beyond, the skirmishers must form up in rear ranks and cannot do anything else until the combat is resolved.
>>94689886Awful. Look at his hand. He's doing the Monty Python thing.
>>94692295>not!renaissance suburbsWtf are you smoking
>>94691985Absolutely fucking not. Wood Elf warfare is the complete fucking opposite of chivalry and all the ideals Lileath desires in her boytoy "champions".>>94692037>gets easily manhandled by some middling teenage Errant during sparringHe'd be humiliated and discovered immediately and beaten senseless, then publicly executed for impersonating a noble.
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>>94689402Thread is autosaging to page 10, but I'll post it anyways. I lost all decal sheets, so I had to paint a cope design on the banner in the meantime.
>>94689886Oppa Gangnam Style!
The transfer sheets for warriors of chaos is fucking lacking. Not a single emblem for anything other than the 8 ring of chaos. Almost makes me wanna belch.
Does anyone know if chaos knight arms/weapons are interchangeable with warriors?
>>94694002Since the game takes place before the Great War of Chaos, I wish they had fleshed out competing Chaos warbands a bit. They weren't all unified and pointed at the Empire yet. So do something with Chaos politics.
>>94693822And what a fine chaos lord on a dragon he is, anon. He'll serve you well on the battlefield, I'm sure of it.>>94694088They are not. The knight arms/weapons are connected to their torsos at the shoulder, whereas the warrior arms/weapons are connected to their bodies at the elbows. However, with a hobby knife and some greenstuff, you could cut off the weapons and hands of said knights' arms and use them to give your warriors fancier weapons. >>94694002Start practicing your freehanding, anon. Painting the symbols of chaos is fun once you get the hang of it.
>>94685241ALL THE DWARFS OR DIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE ITS FOR ASUR ONLY. UNDERSTAND, CAUSE IF YOU DONT I WILL LYNCH YOU BY YOUR BEARDS!!!
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I want to buy some cool 75mm art scale minis I found, but I'm a noob so I'd save them for a few years until my dogshit painting improves and I can give them an honest Golden Demon tier effort. Is this wise or foolish?
>>94694988foolish. just paint them nigga
>>94686149An existing state colour for my empire dudes, and /yourguys/ for the knights and my orcs and goblins. I feel like some armies favour official schemes (high elves, wood elves, empire), and other armies almost require that you do /yourdudes/ (chaos, orcs, and Bretonnia)
>>94687292Yeah there would've been plenty of vampires around the world, but the Vampire Counts (of Sylvania) weren't active in this time since they had just recently been beaten back. I'm sure it won't be long until they get folded into the game though
>>94685241Can I use Freeguild models as Empire state troops?
>>94695291nobody is going to stop you
>>94693086you can still buy it from GOG at a huge discount
>>94695307>nobody is going to stop youThey should be though
>>94695309by principle they should stop him from playing the empire, but it is what it is
>>94695291If you're paying GW prices just to play Empire you can use any models you like, poor guy
>>94693822The conversion is nice. Reminds of the one they did with an old 3rd ed chaos champion of slannesh (the serpent body one) and a high elf dragon
>>94693610Easy fix, just place a shield in the hand.
>>94695636Shield looks better but why not just put him on horseback as befitting an Emperor? You could use an Empire Knight horse when they arrive.
>>94695714Because even Emperors can walk, and Karl definitely walks among his men.also, I'll be honest, I took these pics from some reddit bloke
>>94695747>not wanting to Assemble the Elector Counts quicker on horseback
are they bringing back the Militia kit?
>>94695995Bro you can literally just look at the preorder article
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