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Thinking of doing a zelda chain. What order should I do the three timeline splits in?

>>94688139
>he thinks there's only three timeline splits
Nobody tell him...

>>94688139
>>94688142
>timeline splits
I still stand by the belief that the timeline doesn't exist, all games are their own thing unless explicitly a sequel and Nintendo only says there's a timeline to milk money from faggots who saw patterns where there wasn't any

>>94688142
I don't know what the heck breath of the wild is in terms of the timeline but I'm pretty sure it goes at the end.

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Would you a Cookie?

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Hello thread. I have an important clarification to make about the 1200 CP version of End of Worlds in MCU part 3. Judging from the fact that the Watcher makes his mortal friends coming to rescue him INTO NEW WATCHERS, the fact that Watchers can potentially ERASE EVERY FUCKING VERSION OF A NON-WATCHER CHARACTER FROM THE GODDAMN UNIVERSE and in spite of all this in Season 1 Infinity Ultron was WINNING the fight with the Watcher I must confess two things:

1. Your powers are a little itty bitty bit more than world killing! Just a little bit.

2. If you don't choose to be something like a universe-eating giant cloud, you CAN in fact give other people your goddamn "mere" humanoid frame-limited reality warping cosmic powers.

In conclusion, I tapped out of the MCU at just the right time.

>>94688158
>https://wiki.smutosaur.us/CoC/Madeleine
I would.

>>94688168
So it's safe to say you won't make any more spite made jumps about the capeshit slop that appeals to the lowest denominator that is white suburban moms?

>>94688191
Definitely. The MCU has dug it's own grave, and DC has not only destroyed it's own movie continuity but news outlets can't seem to decide if early viewers love or hate Gunn's Superman which is...not a good sign. So no, I'll probably never be invested in capeshit enough to do it again.

>>94688168
Would it be fine to lower the price of the perk for how easy it is to get?

>>94688201
At least we won't have to see you suffer from the inevitable butchering of Magneto being a Holocaust survivor like they did in Civil war (comic not MCU).

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>>94688201
Hey Shard, have a build.

Jump: The Silt Verses, +1000 Choice Points
Drawbacks: +900 Choice Points
> +100 Choice Points - Of Rapture and Bliss
> +200 Choice Points - Opened Floodgates
> +300 Choice Points - The God Winds Blow
> +300 Choice Points - A God Hungers For You(Trawler-Man)

Origin: Martyr
Perks: 1900 Choice Points, -900 Choice Points
> Free from Background - Ideal Captive
> Free from Background - Reasonable Figure of Authority
> Discounted from Background, -150 Choice Points - Passed Over For Promotion
> Discounted from Background, -150 Choice Points - Never In Vain
> Discounted from Background, -300 Choice Points - Cloak of Justice
> Discounted from Background, -300 Choice Points - Martyred Mother
> -600 Choice Points - From the Stream to the Clouds

Items: 300 Choice Points, -300 Choice Points
> Free from Background - Supplies
> Discounted from Background, -300 Choice Points - On the Birthing of Gods (Unrevised Edition)

Now, question, how far am I, with just this build, from actually coming to grips with the drawbacks I took? This information will help me determine where to put it in my chain.

>>94688158
This is a female cookie, right?

>>94688224
I am going to be honest: God Winds alone basically mandates you flee the country or die, either to the Linger Straits or possibly to wherever Paige found past the Wastelands where apparently there are no gods. And the only known ways to deal with A God Hungers in-setting are to ward yourself like crazy (keeping in mind wards merely delay even lesser gods) and run like hell. At this point with that alone, you can forget caring about the Parish, and assuming you can escape the hotel you are basically trying to outrun two hurricanes at once without a vehicle.

This is not a merciful or power fantasy-enabling setting. Most of your build isn't actually relevant for surviving the threat level you've chosen, and your chosen item could actually make things worse.

>>94688223
sigh, they really want to do mutants don't they

>>94688210
I already feel bad enough about pricing an Infinity Gauntlet on it's own at 600 CP (I will remind everyone that strictly speaking, the full set of stones is nowhere near the universe-warping power of all 6 stones harnessed properly by a tool. Hence why it's 300 CP just for the stones, and an additional 300 for the tool). I'm still processing the absolute horseshit I just saw, but I'm probably not going to lower it considering that the known way of becoming a Watcher is still. You know. Having another Watcher bestow the powers on you. And since Captain Carter died from overuse of them, it's hardly safe or easy to try to bullshit an alternative for yourself given based on what we know even Celestials (and therefore What If? Agatha) ain't shit by comparison

>>94688223
Civil War 2 IIRC

What kind of things can magic do in Fire Emblem? Specifically, can it do biomancy?

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What kind of things can magic do in Fire Emblem? Specifically, can it do biomancy? Payment in coin.

>>94688252
>God Winds alone basically mandates you flee the country or die
Uh, the drawback is not worded as 'this is happening immediately on drop in' and is phrased as a looming problem you're supposed to actually entrench yourself to solve? If your intent was that you should just run away since it's an instant calamity on your head with no saving throw, that feels like the wording is bad.

9anon, if you became a Dungeon Core or Genius Loci would MPC allow you to alter your dungeon/domain, or would you still have to upgrade it to be able to change properties first?

>>94688252
Actually to build on this >>94688266 it's just a bad drawback flat out, if the object of the drawback is that you just fucking leave the known setting for a safe location. At that point, any kind of movement option- literally a car by your own words- trivializes it and makes the entire jump moot by wiping whatever plot might have happened.

Given how amazing Christmas was, I'm guessing everyone is spent for New Years? In terms of jumpmaking, I mean.

>>94688277
NTA, but he was speaking specifically for that anon's build not being able to handle it. Not necessarily generally.

>>94688266
>and is phrased as a looming problem you're supposed to actually entrench yourself to solve?
Uh, just to clarify it IS a looming problem but there is only one confirmed solution to it in the setting: Being the Saint of another Rhetorical God and telling the winds to fuck off in the opposite direction. Since in-universe, the reason why the God-Winds become a problem at all is because Val decides to just fucking wreck civilisation to free humanity from gods or some shit.

>>94688277
Also yes that's a good point actually, hang on I'll change it so the God-Winds are chasing you specifically.

>>94688278
I am at least. Even I probably can't make a jump on 3 days' notice.

>>94688281
While yes, the problem is definitely compounded by taking other drawbacks at all I also do feel that just reading the document and knowing ahead of time you can survive by just getting out of town is a bit lenient.

>>94688260
>can it do biomancy?
It created the dragon Grima so yee.

Actually, quick proposal everyone: How do you all feel about me bumping down the God-Winds drawback as is for 100 CP, and then adding the "the winds are homing in on you like the eye in the storm" part to be the 300 CP version?

>>94688139
Do the Average Zelda Jump first in anycase.

>>94688281
Going by what the drawback apparently does, I don't actually see a better build to deal with the situation? My build was made with the intent of dealing with the God-Winds in the most straightforward way possible, by just organizing people and gods into a secure arrangement that is better equipped to do whatever must be done to collective benefit. Frankly I'm baffled at what Shard was thinking anyone should do to survive the drawback besides bring in OCP at this point

>>94688289
It feels that an easily chain ending event that requires a lot of personal effort and cooperation with many other agents to overcome should not be 100 CP.
100 CP drawbacks should be things that are challenging on a personal scale, but not that bad.

>>94688289
I think you should remove the drawback if it's just a power check of 'do you have city scale reality warping' as seems to be the requirement for beating it.

>>94688294
>Frankly I'm baffled at what Shard was thinking anyone should do to survive the drawback besides bring in OCP at this point
To be fair, there are many high CP drawbacks that are not meant to be survived without OCP, or that at the very least have such a small chance of survival that you may as well end the chain there. Specially if you are also pilling on more drawbacks.

Hate that I can't use the word Unburdened in my jumps lest people think I'm referencing recent cringe events.

>>94688294
>I don't actually see a better build to deal with the situation?
Not that I like to DM builds, but I would like to point out that the compounding effects of the other drawbacks (being stuck in a god-haunted building, a different high-tier god deciding to fuck with you personally, the Parish's ire) will greatly compound attempts to accomplish the (actually reasonable) solution of organising people to steer their gods into productivity. God-Winds, like all the 300 CP drawbacks, are things I'd advice you to take on their own if you're only using in-jump stuff to deal with them.

(Alternatively, hide behind the Saint of War)

>>94688296
My line of reasoning was that the solution to merely surviving it as written is "get out of town" even if this is your jump #1, but fair enough.

>>94688298
It's a power OR Xtreme diplomacy check, but I suppose that's always an option. Any ideas for a replacement 300 CP drawback?

Not committed to anything yet guys, just running all options as I tentatively rewrite the drawback

>>94688300
But that's counterintuitive in this case because the drawback is framed in a way that you're supposed to actually prepare for it, but the solution Shard had in mind seems to be just buying the 600 point Saint option and negating the threat outright.

>>94688305
I wouldn't even make that connection unless you followed it up with the rest of the line.

>>94688310
Again I'd like to clarify that I also think you have a chance with 600 CP (2 capstones') worth of charisma/plot armour to survive God-Winds without immigrating to the Straits, it'll take longer but you also don't have to be hallowed by a god or risk overexerting yourself like Val.

>>94688305
>Hate that I can't use the word Unburdened in my jumps lest people think I'm referencing recent cringe events.
Que?

>>94688322
He's doing the equivalent of saying you can't say great without someone immediately jumping to politics. You have to be particularly obsessed to think like that.

>>94688306
>being stuck in a god-haunted building
I just leave the building after a while? Shard, I'm sorry to say I think that drawback is free points because despite having framed it as a possible pitfall, I personally was fulling intending to solve that problem, and the problem of the Parish, by ironically just leaving for the Straits(I didn't realize this would also solve the God-Winds for me, since I thought they would be hit too). I'd just...leave? How long did you have in mind that we'd be stuck in the starting area with that drawback?
I chose the Trawler-Man specifically because I believed that, with his Parish already being both illegal and diminished, it would be a problem that would take a while to get to me even if they knew where I was because they're not really integrated in society at the start, they'd cause themselves problems trying to get at me if I simply participate in society by passively antagonizing said society.

>>94688351
Mmm, it's hard to explain but the starving god that was the basis for that example is like a bogeyman that tries to gaslight you into staying, investigating further and making you get stuck in the routine of living in the hotel until it can eat you. It's not a Trawler-Man level powerhouse but it is supposed to be dangerous and tempting enough that you'll at least have to go through some emotional turmoil to break out.

Going to dinner now, feel free to leave any further comments about the drawbacks for when I get back.

>>94688362
I got that, but my personal idea of the solution to that problem and not knowing about it was God Hungers drawback; I would know that I'm being hunted by a bigger, badder god, so I'd plan to run the fuck away without even realizing I'm also escaping the clutches of another, more insidious god.
Anyway, I think making it clear how much time we have before the God-Wind hits and also changing the criteria of the Drawback in question makes sense. Say, instead of just surviving it coming for you, it does have a fixed target and we have to make sure that target survives mostly, if not wholly, intact.

>>94688380
Hmm, point taken; I was already leaning towards just making God-Winds both more immediate and focused on you specifically. Regarding the hotel, since it’s confusing and localised anyway as is I’m thinking about just scrapping the drawback and replacing it with something else since striking a balance between being mindfucked by the comfy hotel and not making it trivial is tricky. Either being grievously wounded in an unspecified conflict (either missing an eye or a limb, or being generally banged up to the point doing most things is painful and you can’t take a hit nearly as well) or being hunted by the Angels of a nature/tech/non-major or abstract god (something like the killer deer Carpenter had to run from at one point).

>>94688394
I think the hotel drawback is fine as is? The last one you mentioned as a possible replacement is literally just the God Hungers drawback, which is 300 points. It is kind of a middling puzzle boss but I think that's fine for 100

>>94688168
Do you ever think that your brother would be a better jump-maker than you?

>>94688394
>I was already leaning towards just making God-Winds both more immediate and focused on you specifically
...That seems like a bad fix. It just encourages brute forcing the solution even more

>>94688417
I’m open to suggestions. Because I’ll be real, a 300 CP drawback you can dodge by leaving the country doesn’t seem fair either.

>>94688412
No it’s-okay, this is my failure to explain gods properly in the setting. A god turning it’s full attention to you =/= a couple of it’s creations or followers stalking you. It’s the difference between. being chased by Resident Evil monsters and being hounded by the concept equivalent of a raging storm.

I’ll think over the hotel drawback to see if it can be salvaged though, maybe I need to emphasise how like Odysseus and the lotus eaters it starts you lulled into a sense of security with the thing and make you forget you took the drawback

>>94688414
His brother isn't enough of a failure irl like Shard is to end up here anon.

>>94688414
…I have a brother? That’s news to me.

>>94688422
>Because I’ll be real, a 300 CP drawback you can dodge by leaving the country doesn’t seem fair
Just say it locks onto wherever you are after a few months to a year into the jump, and that if that place is not standing after, you fail. You can move around freely to escape it, but it's not about personal survival at that point so it doesn't matter.

>and make you forget you took the drawback
That's the default state of the current drawback though. My answer to that was simply having bigger problems to worry about.

>this is my failure to explain gods properly in the setting
I think the problem is once again one of wording, because the drawback as described talks about angels and the gods servants as the object of the threat it presents. If in actuality, the drawback simply causes ever-present non-localized instant death bullshit to simply occur from no eminent source that can be countered, that's frankly worse than the God-Winds outright.

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Where do you think a Kage level jumper would stack up in MHA? Planning on going their after going to Naruto BLACKED and i'm just trying to work out how much my Jumper will curb stomp most of the setting.

>>94688432
His name is yours spelled backwards and he was adopted by different parents after your original father killed your original mother. While you had a normal family and childhood, he was trained by an immortal witch, who owns a pharmaceutical company and drinks the blood of young women to maintain her youth, into a serial killer. He wears a Santa costume all year round.

>>94688452
...Can't decide if this is better or worse than the DekuXBakugo Mpreg pic that gets posted here sometimes?

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Changelog

>Slightly rewrote Of Rapture and Bliss to highlight why it's dangerous; the intent of the drawback remains the same
>Rewrote The God-Winds Blow so they hone in on you
>Split A God Hungers For You into 300/600 tiers, one where the thing is basically a Resident Evil level that keeps spamming monsters and gradual, tangible disasters at you, and one where it has potential point-and-smite powers if you go too near it's domain

>>94688440
I prefer to avoid arbitrary loss condition drawbacks if I don't think I fit, and I do feel the question of whether humans can survive a trek through the wastes does matter enough to how the story ends.

>one of wording

While also true, to an extent part of the problem is also that gods are just inconsistent in what they are capable of sometimes. There are some gods that only spam monsters. There are other gods that can look at you and trap you into a play with tangible consequences if you're inside their theatre. And, gods being dumb hungry animals who play with their food sometimes, not all gods that can do the latter do it all the time. So it's not actually clear sometimes, and I decided to just shunt the drawback into tiers.

>>94688463
>after your original father killed your original mother
Bullshit, I know my original mother and her killing intent far surpasses my father's.
>by an immortal witch, who owns a pharmaceutical company and drinks the blood of young women to maintain her youth
Also do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

>>94688486
This is altogether a good change, nice.

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How would you guys feel about a grocery store add on/supplement? Not a you buy a random assortment of perks but like a literal jump/supplement filled with different foods, drinks and other essentials you could buy so you could have them stocked up during your chain in your warehouse or something.

>>94688486
>do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
That's why I mentioned the santa costume

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Should Jumpers keep their powers thematic or is it fine for them to just keep piling up powers up to the point that they would need an encyclopedia to keep track of them and wouldn't even use more than a couple?

>>94688502
I feel that it is still a very Reddit and unnecessary thing to do, but you do you.
And it's not like we don't have a bazillion of business, food stock and the like items that would fill that roll already.

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>>94688500
Good to hear! If there's no further issues after 15 minutes a while I'll chuck it onto the drive and...eh, make a build for my own jumps someday, when I'm less sick and less bootyblasted from FGO and the MCU conspiring to melt my remaining brain circuits

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwVY94Q46WI
>You can actually feel your brain get smoother as you listen

>>94688514
>>94688486
Also, as for what I think the problem of 'what are the expressions of a gods power, and how might you survive them' I think it comes back to the small notes section. There, you say that Gods are very removed from the world and that they pretty much operate by setting up proxies and smiting those of other gods, and it's also very much implied that gods are constrained to within their places of power, which gives an apparently false impression of locality.

>>94688514
>Yearly gagshit event in my gagshit game, how could this be!?
If you get mad about a Christmas event being silly, the problem is wholly with you.

>>94688521
I directly lifted those notes from the TTRPG and they're not...technically untrue, gods can't just go wherever but like. The Trawler-Man can pop up in practically any river in the Peninsula because he's a big deal and a river god, the Saint Electric has massive coverage because the Peninsula is using her to power most of the electric grid (which is her domain) and the Cairn Maiden can pretty much show up wherever because someone somewhere is always dying.

Yeah I should probably clarify that. Like I said, it's technically true gods can't just march on other gods' domains or outside their own easily, but the exact parameters of their domain can be VERY loosely defined.

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>>94688507
Keeping to a theme and aesthetic is way better than becoming a slopsekai protagonist with no sense of style.

>>94688507
Once you reach the level of Imperial Miracles for your chosen skill, it is really the same.

And on the drive it goes.

>>94688531
So with this all in mind, is all that I really need to make my build viable now enough physical resilience to survive repeated assaults on my person by fish people and some way to dodge the Withermark?

>>94688168
>Pic
Did the dude whose journal this is become one of Dagoth Ur's sleepers halfway through?

>>94688139
I did Child -> Defeated -> Adult timelines.

>>94688257
Combat magic is heavily standardized, but magic outside of that varies from world to world.

>>94688502
I feel like this conflicts with the warehouse supplements which already offer food options. As in an additional suppleement ould directly affect their balance since people esseentially geet a food option for free by taking yours.

>>94688548
Fish people and possibly giant car-sized fish with crab legs and that sort of thing, yeah. Preferably also dexterity, endurance and body armour too since in theory you could be shot at as well. I cannot stress enough that your life would be much easier if you just took only one 300 CP drawback but I won't say it's impossible to survive.

>>94688550
Oh no, it's way more stupid than that. His deal is that he's mad gay for the previous series' main character and is driving himself (even more) crazy trying to unravel the kung fu cult that wants to capture the MC, physically scoop out his brain, and replace it with the brain of a guy who has been gaslighting himself with memories from an ancient chinese sage.

(Except he randomly gave up the goal because he is also just OK with finding someone, anyone who can give him a good fight)

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>>94688158
Of course i would choose the superior kind of gacha waifus.

I am using all my jumper's CP in Forgotten Realm to buy a custom magic item(Ring of Veil of Undeath + Life Ward), which comes out at around 400k gp or 1000CP.
It essentially grants you all the advantages of being undead without any of the disadvantages.

Anyone got an Idea for a setting where I could get the ability to make more of them for a reasonable price and time frame? I like the idea of equipping others with them, but DnD crafting isn't really good for that considering the time and xp cost.

Only idea I had was that self-cloning ring option in the Norse Myth jump.

>>94688562
I can probably slot the jump in as jump 3 for 4 after picking up some plot armor and modest superhuman abilities then. The bench mark of Gyo monsters helps frame the level of strength I need, which should be pretty achievable without blowing up my chain's power progression.

>>94688579
Yeah, Gyo monsters are exactly right for the upper end of non-Val god servants.

>>94688158
Are you guys okay?

>>94688602
Of course why do you ask?

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>>94688514
Don’t worry, Ordeal Call will end next year & we’ll reach salvation
>MCU conspiring to melt my remaining brain circuits
It really hurts that I can’t even understand what’s happening in the MCU anymore compared to DC

>>94688609
>compared to DC
Well nothing's happening in DC so that isn't saying much.

>>94688592
The real issue with fishwalkers is that there are fucking billions of the things and they're ironically too small for the most part for shit like guns to do any good

>>94688550
>>94688562
It is important to note that the guy was already mentally unwell since basically forever and gave himself near crippling brain damage towards the end of the previous series. Now he's at a turbo low point after getting his ass beat again.

>>94688608
I'm a bit out of the loop on why some of ya'll are fucking cookies now. And also this shit here >>94688575

>>94688614
The fact that nothing is happening is honestly a blessing

>>94688622
Argent is making a cookie run jump
>And also this shit here
Is not hard to understand, Bebe. Cookies are simply superior to servants.

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Cookies are weak, I’ll simply eat them all

>>94688652
>*Servants are weak
FTFY. No need to thank me.

>>94688639
>Argent is making a cookie run jump
That is not at all a sufficient explanation for why someone would try to apply dick to a brittle baked good, but also I guess I gotta accept that this is just an internet thing.

>>94688664
You're in the pokefucker general. Cookie sex isn't the most degenerate thing some troglodytes here desire

>>94688609
The one saving grace is that I actually like the first episode positing that trying to remove the Hulk from Banner with gamma radiation creates an "alpha" kaiju that can spawn other, smaller kaiju, and that Banner himself can power up into a Hulk Godzilla by supercharging himself to a nuke because it sorta called back to why the Abomination looks the way he does. In the MCU, Blonsky got his powers from an attempt by the US to reverse engineer the Super Serum as well as the Hulk's blood, so unintentional as it was it just seems to confirm in my mind that MCU humans return to zilla if exposed to enough radiation.

>>94688614
>nothing's happening
Well uhhhh Harley Quinn is making a great big BRAP, Apokoliptan refugees are showing up on Earth after Darkseid's death, and Highfather has sent Orion to kill a baby AGAIN, Lois has Superman powers (again), the Time Trapper wants Superman to kill him so that he can zenkai boost into becoming the god of all time and space (like New Genesis he clearly doesn't know Darkseid already succeeded in doing that), Raven wants to dump Beast Boy, the Justice Society of America hates each other and Darkseid has captured the OTHER pole of the omniverse (the Elseworld) to power himself up so he can surpass his ordained cosmic role as life and hope's counterbalance and is basically playing demiurge before planning to invade the DC omniverse again. So shit is fucked but like. At this point, it is a normal kind of fucked (apart from the BRAP) where Darkseid is winning at life forever, Superman is allowed to have a fleeting moment of happiness with his super-wife, and everyone else exists in perpetual torment so it doesn't really register to me.

>>94688686
I was talking about the DC movie universe, not the BRAP comics.

>>94688686
>Darkseid's death
He died already?

>>94688686
>Raven wants to dump Beast Boy
So just do it? How is this an issue?

What jumps help with hiding your powerlevel so you can goof off and not have people asking you to help with every major crisis?

>>94688701
Yeah, and get this-THIS time, dying was literally part of the plan.

>>94688703
She did. She's just like, on an "I'm finding myself" arc now because I guess DC thinks teenage girl drama is in and raping your teammates because you've succumbed to your demonic bloodline's inherited wickedness is out. Specifically she was having a bad day because it was the day her mother died and Beast Boy wouldn't stop being a haha whacky manchild for 15 seconds trying to cheer her up. Also she immediately got isekai'd to a magical land where she was last seen pouring her heart out about her parent issues to some blonde coven's heir who is, I have to be honest, a way better potential husbando than Beast Boy is editorially allowed to be.

>>94688695
Oh yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, all i can really think of on that front is the Penguin (a TV series) allegedly being great, and people saying the Gunn Superman movie is great one minute and ass the next.

>>94688724
>raping your teammates because you've succumbed to your demonic bloodline's inherited wickedness is out
Would Raven get along with the Tsukihime protagonist?

>>94688728
Honestly, maybe. Nu-Raven is a lot more in control of herself than old-Raven but both of them can relate heavily to that kind of thing.

>>94688452
Depends on the Kage but for the most part you'd at least be apart of the upper echelon there but more than likely only the top few could pose a challenge to you and that's still pretty 50/50.

>>94688686
You actually liked Bruce saying "Gamma put this monster in me, I gotta believe it can take it out." ?

>>94688803
No no no, I'm saying I actually liked SEEING Bruce as Brucezilla. Although while I am sharing embarrassing confessions, questionable powerscaling aside I must confess animated Agatha Harkness is MUCH more attractive than live action Agatha Harkness. It's been a while since I've seen a proper brunette evil sorceress.

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Teen Titans Raven remains the objectively best Raven.

>>94688922
>Pic
Bitch, you can float in the air.

>>94688969
If the sexy thicc witch says she's dizzy and wants to use your lap as a chair, you say yes.

>>94688969
It's called flirting.

>>94688979
>lap
>not face

>>94688984
Its called being lazy. Damn demon kids and their lazyness. In my day if we wanted a chair we evicerated the nearest human and formed ome from their bones. Bonus points if the soul was still attached.

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I have come to the extremely recent realisation that I didn't include anything in Honkai Impact about the literal Magical Girls that are MG!Sirin/TeRiRI. I have fixed this issue.

>>94689092
Excellent! Meguca Mode is a go!

>>94688158
I will glaze this cookie.

>>94688979
>>94688996
I was imagining the whole "on the ground on your hands and knees" type chair position. Weird how this is a rorschach test

>>94688158
Is this bitch an Oreo 'cause I'm going to double stuff her.

>>94688831
Eh, I can't condemn.

>>94688158
I'm going to drink her milk while eating her cookies.

>>94688602
No. I haven't been okay in years.

>>94688158
I'm going to make this cookie crumb.

And that's it. I have no more cookie sex jokes.

>>94688158
I'm going to run a train on this cookie

>>94689209
By yourself I hope.

>>94688294
>Going by what the drawback apparently does, I don't actually see a better build to deal with the situation? My build was made with the intent of dealing with the God-Winds in the most straightforward way possible, by just organizing people and gods into a secure arrangement that is better equipped to do whatever must be done to collective benefit.
God's in the Silt Verses are not people or even heavily anthropomorphized abstraction of concepts. They are things that exist solely to kill, eat, and spread. It's like you gave a slime mold malice and divine power. They are not going to help and will actively kill and eat all involved, even if it means their own destruction. This is not a setting with 'good' gods.

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How well would a dragonblood soldier fare in Warhammer fantasy? Are they comparable to a cathay dragon?

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Which Touhou jump is the BEST one?

>>94689279
Touhou Artificial Dream in Arcadia

>>94689279
Forbidden Scrollery, mostly because it offers everything and I find the manga extremely comfy.

>>94689275
>How well would a dragonblood soldier fare in Warhammer fantasy?
Pretty well. Even a low essenceh one is stronger than 99% of the setting.
>Are they comparable to a cathay dragon?
Yesn't. There isn't really a lot besides TWW3 gameplay to compare them with.

>>94689275
What caste, age, essence and charms?
>>94688724
Yeah, and get this-THIS time, dying was literally part of the plan.
I gotta admit, I like it when recurring villains become aware of their mandated jobber status and still plan around it.
It is still dumb, but I like it.

>>94689245
So, this place is basically a Campione's Playground. Tons of Gods to kill, and no moral issues over the fact?

>>94689355
I'm aware! And yeah at the very least it's neater than Darkseid declaring that he is THE END OF ALL STORIES and then proceeding to do mostly the exact same damn Darkseid things but like, while wearing fewer clothes.

>>94689275
Pretty damn well.

>Are they comparable to a cathay dragon?
Probably short of a lesser god (like the emperor and empress are) but the younger dragons are compared to greater daemons, so well within reach of an E4-5 Dragonblooded to battle. Chaos talks a lot of shit about being ineffable and abstract, but in the material world they're sufficiently solid that they need specific spells to avoid, say, being defeated by having large rocks dropped on them. Easy pickings for a Dragonblooded, especially one with a spirit-killer charm. In some areas (being an ACTUAL dragon, sorcery) they far surpass Dragonblooded, but then again they don't have the comprehensive excellence of Charms so I imagine it all evens out.

Don't go near the Wood Elves, they're fucking crazy and it's a coin toss how they'd react to a non-elf/non-elf patsy with supernatural influence over nature.

>>94689357
As long as you can reach the gods, I suppose? It's kind of vague if the gods like-live in some sort of parallel spirit world plane to physical reality, or if they're just abstract forces that briefly incarnate. And of course, gods vary hugely in power and purview. But as long as you can somehow hurt something that's more phenomena than entity, they're all over the place and many rival cults would cheer you on as long as you're not killing THEIR god.

>>94689357
They're not physical and might not even be entities beyond incarnating as disparate phenomena, on top of forming whenever anyone anywhere performs even the mildest action relating to a given concept. If you can harm and attack things that are just random phenomena, then there are so many gods you can kill in-setting without issue.

>>94689424
Could there be a god of BTFOing Gohan? Could there be more than one?

>>94689424
>>94689409
Pretty sure that Campione deal with that already. In the main series they travel to various spirit worlds, including the underworld and some realms of specific gods, and in the sequels they are travelling to god-worlds that are basically mythological stories locked up in those mythos so gods can play around.

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>>94689355
Fire caste, 50, essence 4, war, athletics, ride and melee charms.

>>94689346
>>94689409
Thanks, I'm asking because im bringing a battalion of them to setting and wanted to know if they are merely superhuman or straight up Musou characters.

>>94689450
Yes, I'm aware. I'm saying that there isn't actually a spirit world that Silt Verses gods emanate from, as far as we know. They're just phenomena that manifest when people do any general action or have even the slightest thought that can be associated with whatever concept they manifest from. If Campione can't actually target phenomena as a whole, then they might not be able to address the problem.

i wanna kiss dudes. dude kisser chain. recommend me dudes my jumper should kiss.

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>>94688139
Go Dark Timeline. That way you can do Oracle of Ages and justify time traveling back OoT and pick a new timeline. Put the cowboy Zelda in the train timeline.
>>94688108
>He means an actual MMO, like Digimon Masters.
I remember asking Regalus about that one and he claimed it was just Data Squad and already had a jump.

>>94689536
Its a full mmo

>>94689536
Yeah it basically is IIRC. There's also Digimon Battle Online which is basically Tamers, and Digimon Super Rumble, which seems to be original, but I think is Korea only.

>>94688292
Where should Lunk fit into a Zelda chain?

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>>94689533
Milo from Pokemon.

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What are some jumps with adventuring guilds?

>>94689572
On offer or just as part of the setting?

>>94688922
It is also the best Starfire and Blackfire
>>94688969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9T9HDjm3rY

>>94689450
Truth be told I don't know much about Campione, but like the other guy said the issue is there might not even be a spirit world. The Cairn Maiden talks about gods like they're a competitive ecosystem, but the Cairn Maiden has a different perspective on most things and the gods in the wasteland sure as hell don't seem to have any ability to escape their predicament. Based on circumstantial evidence, Silt Verses gods are like storms of belief, strong emotion and concept that just rise up and die down.

>>94689475
Yeah definitely Musou characters.

>>94689580
Either or. I have an urge to hunt monsters and party at the guild. Or do random missions for coin.

>>94689558
I wouldn't say full MMO. There are only two quests in the entire game
>kill X digimon
>go find <insert Name> he will tell you how many digimon to kill
And never forget that all items and gear have a time limit before they break. So you can only wear that new hat you got from the cash shop for 13 days before it is gone. It is just a Data Squad cash grab

>>94689606
>Based on circumstantial evidence, Silt Verses gods are like storms of belief, strong emotion and concept that just rise up and die down.

So, Chainsawman Syndrome? Fear/Faith creates entities that fuck with humans?

>>94688664
I had a few questions about your Base of Operations supplement.

What is the light situation without purchasing the option for it? Is everything visible?
Can Decontamination remove radiation or corruptive/unwanted energies? At the higher tier would it be possible to decontaminate/remove unwanted stuff from the Base at large?
It might be a bit of an ask but I think making a single purchase of Base Aesthetics free is a better approach than just changing the Warehouse look into a bunker look for the sake of differentiation.

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>>94689572
Konosuba needs some competent people.

>>94689637
Kind of actually, except Silt Verses gods are both more abstract and way dumber than Chainsaw Man demons, and also the humans have figured out how to generate and shape them. Not quite control them, but render them predictable and relatively tame with a combination of marketing and targeted propitiations to reshape them through their public images.

Er, the bureaucratic city humans that is. The actual faiths of gods tends to take their own god a bit more seriously.

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Alright, last repost round, if there are no complaints or suggestions this thread, I'll put them on the drive tomorrow.

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>>94689533
Dante from DMC
Cloud from any FF although I recommend the FFT version as a companion due to him having amnesia
Spider-Man because he needs happiness
Seto Kaiba
Pick any male Gundam pilot/rival, they got some problems that a kiss could alleviate for a while

>>94689637
Like Shard said, sorta but also not really? WOG has stated that there may be some sort of weird phenomenon in the setting that acts as a background field that turns belief of any form into something divine, but it's impossible to say for sure.

>>94689668
Note that even the modern approved faiths are still slaves to their respective gods and regularly do sacrifices to please and placate them. They just dress it up in PR stunts, bureaucracy and marketing slogans to keep up appearances.

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Fun punch Out fact I just wanted to get out there:
Apparently early in development, it was Princess Peach who was supposed to enter the Last Stand to fight Little Mac and kidnap him to Smash.
It was changed to DK, because they didn't want to make the bloodied and beaten model for a girl.
I like to think that, in-universe, Peach was all excited to go boxing, and Mario and others had to hold her down while DK went instead.

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>>94689619
In which case:
Konosuba
Neptunia
Genshin Impact
Goblin Slayer
Slime Witch
Hero BBS (probably)
Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear

>>94689641
Everything is visible.
Radiation maybe for the chamber, probably no on magical energies, it's not for the entire base.
I'll think about it, gonna give it a look when I come in later.

>>94689572
Danmachi
Overlord
Konosuba
How not to Summon a Demon Lord
Goblin Slayer
Slave Harem
Jobless Isekai
Log Horizon
Mushoku Tensei
Slime Tensei
Sword Art Online

>>94689731
The boxing association probably doesn't let women in. Indian wizards and gorillas are fine, but women? Ludicrous.

>>94689731
Considering she does get to box at the Olympics, this sounds entirely plausible...

>>94688257
>>94688260
>Specifically, can it do biomancy?
Yes, but nobody seems to be researching it directly since you've got a much higher chance of making any number of monstrosities like Grima or the Crest beasts unless you know what you're doing to at least some extent like the Agarthans. Outside of all that 'rehousing of souls' and skinwalking mess the Agarthans can get up to, there's a support conversation in Fates where Rhajat mentions a hex that'll turn edible meat into fat, and while she's likely a prodigy to some degree (or at least pushing herself in a similar fashion to Severa/Selena) she's essentially an amateur in terms of how much accumulated knowledge and practical experience she's accrued.

>>94689760
Like all boxing organizations, they are corrupt as fuck, and don't want Peach specifically, because then the Mushroom Kingdom government might start sticking their nose into their business.

>>94689760
>The boxing association probably doesn't let women in
Women are apparently allowed, but only if they get a robot to do everything.

>>94689745
>Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear
What even is this?

>>94689666
>>94689745
>>94689750
Thanks!

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>>94689807
Girl isekai's into fantasy setting. God gives her a super powerful bear onesie that makes her basically unbeatable as long as she wears it (and only when she wears it), but literally everything she does is with magic etc is also consequently bear themed. To the point where her magic affinity itself is "bear", when most people have stuff like fire/water/lightning etc.

>>94689840
Adorable

>>94689840
For some reason, I'm always annoyed that that picture doesn't mention that the gloves have an infinite inventory built in.

>>94689475
>>94689606
>Musou characters
Behold Miao Ying.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dahqWLuEnk

>>94690040
It's an Isekai. The infinite inventory is almost a given, such that its absence is usuallymore notable.

Jumper husbandos?

>>94690340
The important thing is that she accesses her inventory by reaching into the bear's mouth

>>94690345
Expand on this question.

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>>94690355
The cutest Bloody Bear in the world

Any magic perks that would help out a DnD cleric? Preferably in the quantity of spells they could use per day.

New item for Owlcat's Rogue Tader, feel free to treat any posts such as this as shameless fishing for suggestions.
>Emergency Kit (Free): Given the current ‘situation’ abord the von Valancius flagship it would be more than a little unfortunate if you were entirely unarmed and unarmored, as such you now possess some relatively basic guardsman level weaponry and armor. Likely a set of flak armor and a lasgun though you may swap the armor out for a lightly armored bodysuit and/or the lasgun for a las or auto-pistol and sword or axe if you prefer even lighter armor or a melee weapon. Regardless these likely came from the hands of the loyal to a fault von Valancius Seneschal who has so recently found you and a wide variety of similarly basic gear should soon be accessible on the bodies of the mutinous rabble about to attack you.

>>94690537
>Rogue Tader
Lol. Anyway, idk anything about 40K and probably won't bother with this as a result, but a good ship which accepts imports and some way to use your Jumper stuff without drawing a bunch of heresy claims (?) would be of interest to me. Good luck with the jump.

>>94690537
Are you building the jump around being a Rogue Trader, or can we be a companion to one?

So. Plan

It's the First War, and I don't like the orcs, so naturally I'm siding with the humans. First course of action will be to fly over to Karazhan and kill Mehdiv. Then over to the Blasted Lands to close and shatter the Dark Portal, which will prevent the Orchish Horde from receiving reinforcements. With that done, I'll head down to Stranglethorn Vale, beating and charming the Gurubashi, Skullsplitter, and Bloodscalp tribes into compliance before gathering them in Zul'Gurub.

There I'll summon Hakkar the Soulflayer, and defeat him in mortal combat, tearing as much of his power from his still cooling corpse as I can before his spirit can fully retreat into the spirit world. With that done and the loyalty of the Jungle Trolls of the Vale secure, I'll proceed to do two things. First, instruct the trolls to begin attacking the Orcish Horde. Second, summon into being a grand temple in the center of Zul'Gurub.

My temple will proceed to redirect the local leylines to flow through it, giving me direct access to them while also using them as a vehicle to quickly spread a texture across the planet's surface, imposing new physical and metaphyiscal laws to effectively eliminate the functionality of arcane magic, and severely limit the use of the Light, Fel, and Shadow except when bonded to a potent being of that force. Also, making Goblin, Gnome, and to a lesser extent Dwarven (but not Titan) technology non-functional.

With that said, the goal going forward will be to establish a new Troll Empire.

Beyond the Blue and Bronze Dragonflights, who else is going to want to kill me now?

>>94690506
There is a hat in a Zelda jump (might be MInish Cap) that cuts magic cost in half. Might be able to wank that as double the spell slots.

>>94690593
I think that kind of thing would mostly apply to the likes of sorcerers rather than divine casters.

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Having just completed RE4 on Pro with an S+ rank, I would like to remind everyone that the whole of Los Illuminados jobs hilariously to one guy with an M4. I'm not entirely sure how the fuck Saddler expected to take over the world when literally every one of his """Dominant""" strain Plaga subordinates and also himself dies hilariously in a matter of 10-15 seconds if you have more than like 60 rounds of 5.56mm bullets. And I question the wisdom of Tricell in deciding that this would be the basis of their next generation of bioweapons when I'm pretty sure a single Mr. X would fucking kill everything in Spain by itself quickly enough to count as a world record breaking speedrun.

So anyway, what did you guys do in Resident Evil? Because it sure as hell had to be more competent than these guys.

>>94690592
Have the orcs ever done something that doesn't make everything worse for everyone?

>>94690506
Quest for Glory's Staff of Many Magics halves spell slot usage

>>94690586
The default is that you are the von Valancius Heir (the Player Character) at the start of the game just as Abelard finds you at the Warrant Chamber. There is a drawback to be a more minor rogue Trader, a second tier to just be some idiot/pirate who lucked into a ship, and there will be another one to be a retinue member with a new or existing companion as the Rogue Trader.

>>94690636
>and there will be another one to be a retinue member with a new or existing companion as the Rogue Trader.
That seems like something that would work better as an origin choice then as a drawback. Either that or have the drawback cost points if you choose a race other then human.

>>94690592
The high elves would probably try to fuck you over during that process. Sure, you can say that you don't want to do anything to them, but moving a massive population of forest trolls westwards will raise eyebrows. Also the Zandalari won't like you summoning aztec satan

>>94690592
>effectively eliminate the functionality of arcane magic, and severely limit the use of the Light
establish a new Troll Empire.
>who else is going to want to kill me now?

Humans and elves. They don't like trolls and you just cut off their main sources of power

>>94690592
>effectively eliminate the functionality of arcane magic
Dalaran wants you dead, as does all of Quel'Thalas. You turned off the Sunwell. You ALSO turned off the second Well of Eternity under Nordrassil, so Illidan is less than happy about that.
>severely limit the use of the Light, Fel, and Shadow except when bonded to a potent being of that force
Lordaeron wants you dead the moment they find out you're the reason their low-level Priests can't heal anyone anymore and now people are dying of infected wounds they'd get just doing their normal jobs. Additionally, the Naaru will notice an entire planet being cut off from the Light. Meanwhile, Kil'jaeden is VERY angry that you've thwarted his immediate plans and is working on something to deal with that. The Old Gods are minorly upset that what few active servants they have at the moment are being depowered. N'Zoth is slightly more upset than that because between the Arcane cutoff and this, you've wrecked the Naga overall.

>making Goblin, Gnome, and to a lesser extent Dwarven (but not Titan) technology non-functional
Without their machines to extract Kajamite at industrial scale, the Goblins will literally regress to nonsapience. Without technology and Arcane magic, the Gnomes are doomed. In a world full of big things that want to eat them, they needed those things to survive. But worse, you've torn out their very hearts and souls. The foundations of their culture, of the meaning of gnomanity. In terms of Dwarves, the Bronzebeard/Ironforge Dwarves suffer the most of the three, what with losing (some of) their technology and Light access. Losing Arcane means the Dark Irons have to go all in on Elemental magic and serving Ragnaros. The Wildhammers are fine, honestly.

>establish a new Troll Empire
Are you going to let the Zandalari run it, or are you a filthy usurper?

(1/2)

>>94690506
Get a spell storing object like a pearl of power or multiclass into sorcerer to abuse metamagic points

>>94690592
>>94690817
>other things

Ultimately, unless you intervene further, Azeroth is now a battleground between Life, Death, and the Elements, with possible Titanic intervention if they ever figure out what's happening. Algalon would be key for that. The Trolls may side with Life, Death, or the Elements depending on which Loa come out on top. Death still has Zovaal the Jailer doing his funky conspiracy board nonsense with the Dreadlords, but it's not clear how many of his plans you've set back and for how long. Life is the interesting one here, as it might just mean the Night Elves and Trolls split the planet between them (or fight to the death over it), or it might mean the World Trees becoming centers of something akin to the Sporemounds of old Draenor. In which case, the Dragonflights might just un-jail the Primal Incarnates themselves, with a "listen, I know we locked you in here, but this is a problem for you, too." Or they might not, Life might subvert Alexstrasza and Ysera for whatever its plans are, leaving Malygos (insane), Neltharion/Deathwing (insane and also imprisoned), and Nozdormu (doomed to eventually go insane but not right now) to handle things on the dragon side.

It's a mess, but it's a DIFFERENT mess from the one in the True Timeline.

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>>94690864
>>94690728
It seems that, in the end, war craft is inevitable.

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>>94689533
Don't do that. It's gay.

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What are some places that need a magical healer?
>1 minute long healing touch that can cure anything physical
>magical; kiss that can break curses and enchantments

>>94689536
>Cowboy Zelda
Whomst?

>>94690988
I mean, anywhere, basically.

>>94690884
But killing the orcs is a net positive

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>>94690994
Fistfull of Rupees. You have other Zelda jumps to fit into the mix
>Legend of Neil
Guy get isekaied into the first Zelda game
>Lunk
Cyanide and Happiness
>Average
???
>Cultivation Zelda
Malon practices lactation based cultivation
But you need to end with Hyrule Warriors and the drawback that summons every Link, Zelda and Ganon to fight.

>>94690988
How many times can you use it and does the cure include diseases? If so yeah basically anywhere but especially medieval settings. Provided you dont get burned at the stake.

>>94690884
Note also that the Amani will not even wait for a signal from you. The moment they realize the Elves have no more magic, Silvermoon is going to get tens of thousands of trolls dancing up and down on its face. Once they're done with that and they see the humans trying to figure out who turned off their magic, they'll invade the northern human kingdoms, too. If Gilneas gets enough buffer time from Lordaeron, Alterac, and Stromgarde, Genn Greymane might just build a wall like he did after the Second War in canon. Note, that is actually what he did before/during WC3. He genuinely built a gigantic wall to keep things out of Gilneas. It would've kept working too if he hadn't had Arugal summon the Worgen (which he can't do in this timeline you've created).

Kul Tiras is also decently well off (Tidesages use Elemental mostly) in the short term, but might have problems the moment Drustvar starts kicking up a fuss again. Also, no Dalaran and no Kirin Tor means Jaina never leaves home means she never meets Arthas and also never loses her accent.

Stromgarde, Dalaran, Lordaeron, and Alterac are going to get danced on by Amani Trolls. Stormwind has nothing to protect it against the Gurubashi, but the Gurubashi don't have a Troll War like the Amani do to be angry about. Stormwind isn't sitting on their ancient holy ground, and the guy responsible for their last major defeat is dead. So unless you sic them on Stormwind, the southernmost human kingdom is probably safe in the short term.

Do we know how big Issei's penis is? I know there is a waifu in the show who can correctly guess how big you are just from looking at you but I can't remember if she said how big his was, though I would assume she did since that seems like an easy way to boost the confidence of the MC.

>>94691034
>How many times can you use it and does the cure include diseases?
The healing touch perk says it restores the target to their prime. So all diseases and illness would be fixed, as well as missing limbs. I just have to touch them and can use whenever.
>If so yeah basically anywhere but especially medieval settings.
Do you know of any particular settings with little to no healers? I know super hero setting always want healers, but I am a bit burned out on those and feel liek places such as D&D/Pathfinder already have enough competition.
>Provided you dont get burned at the stake.
How likely would they wait for me to heal the town before trying to kill me for magic?

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How be y'all's Kwanzaa going?

>>94691052
An exact amount wasn't given, but assuming that waifu's ability is equivalent to the one Issei/his squad was using during that bit, then she'd know it. Her reaction suggests unexpectedly large, but if an exact value was given it's in a non-voiced adaptation.

>>94690988
Most superhero settings, healing is often quite unreliable to ensure a sense of stakes so taking the role of a healer all the heroes in DC or Marvel could come to if they or their loved ones are injured would be of immense value.

>>94688507
I like to keep it broadly thematic. If you need some capability that's outside of your theme, consider investing in a companion.

They're not *just* for emotional support, you know.

>>94691135
>be world's best healer
>have known hypocritical oath
>villains keep trying to kidnap you to heal their friends and family
>heroes keep trying to save you

>>94690817
Nta, but its not like Illidan and Kil'jaeden could do shit about it. The former is in jail, without fel or arcane magic in the world Tyrande won't free him, and the only way for the latter to get into azeroth is the slow as fuck spaceships

>>94691071
At this very moment someone, somewhere, just died.

At this very moment someone, somewhere, was just born.

There is no correlation between these two events.

>>94691071
Jumper does not celebrate Wakanda holidays

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Random question out of curiosity. What's y'alls favorite impractical weapon that you go out of your make make usable for your jumper?

>>94691055
I want to say a song if ice and fire? Also you could always present yourself to the local big church as a saint and heal people by saying a roughly minute long prayer. If anythjng it would bolster your authority and theirs.

>>94691034
>>94691055
>Provided you dont get burned at the stake.
If you're going around healing people in a medieval setting, wouldn't the default thought be that you're doing miracles? When most people thought of magic in medieval times, they thought of casting curses or killing crops or the like. Laying hands on someone and healing them would be more likely thought of by medieval people as doing miracles, as long as you aren't going around blatantly saying that it's magic and/or blaspheming God.

Looking at gauntlight of terra, and Ignatus power gives only 5 days of power despite it having the power backpack. I thought Soritas and space marine suits are indefinitely powered through some kind of cold fusion reactor. Also despite what the picture looks like, the suit is void sealed?

>>94691291
Sword

>but its not impractical

No it is, especially in modern warfare.

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What are some notable illusion improving perks? Like the Aizen one in Bleach that makes you better at using them.

>>94691291
Throwing knives.

>>94691300
I think it would depend. If you went to the church FIRST before going around doing miracles then maybe. If you went around without their prior consent it can be iffy.

>>94691071
You know, Kwanzaa must be absolutely ridiculous from the perspective of actual black Africans. Like imagine if my pasty, scrawny ass who can't even speak Swedish or Danish dressed up like a totally inaccurate cosplay Viking and created a holiday some 60 years ago focused around my distant Scandinavian heritage by inaccurately stereotyping the fuck out of everything to do with the culture of people who still exist in Scandinavia. And not only do I do this, I meld together the cultures and festivals of tribes of people who have hated and killed each other for literal millennia and then name it in the wrong language.

That's Kwanzaa. It's fucking wild.

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>>94691071
Jumper celebrates wakanda holidays with his wife.

>>94691315
>pic
Im sorry all I can think about is how much those toenails are going to gouge the fuck out of whoever she is with in bed while sleeping.

>>94691315
Not illusions directly, but Do the D’DEW from Galavant boosts mind control and misfortune powers and spells, so any illusions designed to manipulate and control someone should be boosted as well.

>>94691332
Bro? Your defense stat?

>>94691315
Do genjutsu count as illusions or mind control?

>>94691354
Just saying. Been through enough of that shit with my wife.

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>>94691332
The danger makes it exciting. Imagine the footjobs.

>>94691359
Depends on the Genjutsu.

>>94691392
Whatever the hell madara uses. Tsukiyomi?

>>94691359
Yes.

>>94690618
Their ancestors were really good at lawnmowing, which massively increased Draenor's biodiversity once the plant hivemind didn't cover everything.

>>94691315
Skyrim got some nice options in game like perks that reduce the cost of illusions and allow you to be good enough with them to affect even undead and mechanical being, while also having options like the Vampire race which boost Illusion spells and enchantments that can reduce the cost of illusions spells fo the point that they're free. You could probably find ways to gain that kind of thing in the Skyrim jumps.
>>94691359
It does, Genjutsu literally translates to Illusion Technique

I think I may create a transmutation spell called Haemogoblin. It turns your targets blood into a swarm of tiny goblins under your control. Suggestions for this? It may also count as necromancy. Its definately cursed.

>>94691407
That one's both.

>>94691491
Are these blood slimes in the shape of goblins, or are you going whole-hog and transmuting the blood into normal (aside from being even more vertically challenged than average) goblins?

>>94690695
>>94690728
Makes sense.

>>94690817
>>94690864
Note, the Sunwell and the Well of Eternity technically still exist, the energy's still there. It's just that it can't be harnessed via math and turned into useable magic.

So the elves still have their energetic cocaine, they just can't use it to shoot fireballs out of their hands anymore.
>Additionally, the Naaru will notice an entire planet being cut off from the Light

The basic conceit is that if mortals want to make use of the Light, Shadow, or Fel they need to get a being of power associated with that power (Naaru, Old Gods and their servitors, demons) to either let the human channel their power through them, or convince said being to give them, either temporarily or permanently, a part of their own power.

The goal isn't to completely eliminate their use, but to ensure that there's a real cost to giving mortals inherent power.

>Without their machines to extract Kajamite at industrial scale, the Goblins will literally regress to nonsapience. Without technology and Arcane magic, the Gnomes are doomed.
Acceptable.

>Are you going to let the Zandalari run it, or are you a filthy usurper?
If they acknowledge me as their new God-Empress then they can be the priest-caste, otherwise they can beat it and make their own troll empire.

>>94691038
Not ideal, but not counter-productive to my plans either. I don't have anything inherently against Quel'Thalas, but as long as the Amani leave me with enough High Elves to settle in Duskwood as a subject people, I'm good. Mostly just want a few dozen high elves to serve as my handmaids and priestesses.

>>94691491
Sounds like a variant of the D&D spell that turns your target into a swarm of bugs that immediately scatter

>>94691540
I was thinking it transmutes the blood vessels in a way that clumps them together to form living but very tiny goblins. Ones that appear to be full on normal (red colored) goblins.
But blood slime jello mold goblins may be a valuable spell too since you could mush together lots of different blood puddles into one really big blood gobbo.

>>94691291
Bows, they're so cool, but just so useless compared to guns.

>>94691359
It's mind control, but affecting the mind usually counts as illusion.

>>94691558
>It's just that it can't be harnessed via math and turned into useable magic.
...wait a minute. This sounds like a Belial plan. Is this a crosspost?

>>94691566
Oh I never heard of that one. Sounds brutal.

Anyone know of any place to get godhood where one can actually hand out sort of customized divine blessings?

Also any ideas for what kind of divine domain would go with trickery and the lost?

>>94691603
Apparently it's actually a GURPS Spell, not a D&D spell. It's from a Death Magic splatbook.

It is a particularly nasty spell, though

>>94691632
I am not surprised gurps has some off the wall stuff.

>>94691491
Maybe if you take this perk in Generic Korean Portal Invasion for Goblinoids and combine it with an advanced mage option
>600cp - Ancient Authority
>You are the heir to an ancient power, one that ruled over a family of monsters and whose descendants must recognize your kingship. Choose one appropriate class of monster, from dragons to demons to the undead. No matter what they are, you will always be able to communicate with them if only on a basic level. Mindless and low-level varieties of your choice instinctively see you as their superior, while the more intelligent examples will still view you with a measure of respect. If you are extremely powerful, even the strongest of these monsters will be forced to acknowledge your authority over them. In addition to whatever class skills you have you are able to create these monsters. Simpler variants only need mana, but more powerful creations will require special materials. It will be a long time before you can create truly independent creatures with great personal power, but even at the very beginning you will be able to create a squad of minions equal to the lowest rank of dungeon monsters. You may choose for your creations to be temporary or permanent.
>400cp - Advanced class
>A few awakened individuals get classes that are a cut above the basic four archetypes. More than just a variation on the theme, these hybridized classes are more powerful and can easily defeat one of the basic classes unless there’s a huge disparity in ranking. Swordsmen that enchant their weapons with different elements, summoners that can fuse with their creatures, and mages that can manipulate dungeon rules to a degree are all possibilities. Advanced classes need the same amount of xp as basic classes to level up, and give more stat boosts.

>>94691601
No. I just don't like arcane magic in Warcraft.

>>94689245
NTA, you haven't listened to the podcast or even read the jump. Civilization is built around Saint Electric, they're not demons you fucking moron

>>94691644
Oh that could be very potent. Thanks!

>>94690616
Honestly I went ham as it were and pretended to be a blacksite umbrella project who kept their humanity along with wanting payback mixed with seduction of Ashley, Rebecca, Claire and Jill, Chris was conflicted but being a uncle helped him relax about the situation, also made Ethan my younger brother purely for people that see what he pulls off plus turning him into a sunproof Pillar man to go oh that makes sense now. (Guy deserved a happy ending and he is a cool guy that goes all out for family so being family sounded good to me)

becoming the meme president who also tore down the shadow government (made Trump my VP to see if I could get the same madness to happen back then with meltdowns to help distract while I begin the process of destroying the syndicate and rolls prevailed on that which was funny along with repealing the whole two terms limit) also left him in charge afterwards he rolled well even as my vp as it were.

Started a clan of superhumans with magic, made better Umbrella for laughs except vastly better products without being evil with fun biotech too along with servitor creatures, and basically conquered the world/took it with me. (thanks Bronze Age collapse jump doc)As for what helped pulling all this off the four jumps (Bronze Age Collapse, Geneforge, Gears Of War, and Jorge Jostar Ultimate Lifeform Edition) I had really made this jump a fun time.

I'm starting to come around to technology over magic (with all things being equal thanks to super-science). Freeform magic is an I Win button but structured magic is often far too restricted. With tech, you're largely only limited by what you can build and can meet any situation with the right resources, but actually having to make it means you can't just function as a reality warper. Having to obtain and harness the materials is a better resource management mechanism than spell slots for hard predetermined effects, and you can still do virtually anything you can imagine instead of being stuck with those preset outcomes.

>>94691699
>(thanks Bronze Age collapse jump doc)
You're welcome.

>>94691787
>if you take tech that's functionally magic, your tech can compete with magic
Waow.

>>94691803
But it's better functioning magic than magic when it is functionally magic, see? Magic.

>>94690616
I came in with a cargo ship full of box-shaped mechs and a loyal crew specialized in construction work.

We mostly just sailed around the world helping fix places up after random ass bioterrorism crap happens, and occasionally dealing with people trying to kill us to steal our highly advanced hardware.

>>94690988
A Song of Ice and Fire

>>94691071
I cooked up a 18oz ribeye, scrambled up half a dozen eggs with large custardy curds, and am enjoying both of those with some black coffee. I'll have a glass of whole milk and cream kefir for dessert.

>>94691624
Besides DnD and Pathfinder, Shard new Old Gods of Appalachia or the Stilt Verses have options to do that though stilt is more divine power then godhood, mtg kamiguwa could probably do so, and Thailand mythology would work just have a magical skill that lets you give customizable blessings (the perk is rather broad).

>>94688201
Not even Shard's autism is a match for whatever the fuck modern capeshit is.

>>94691878
Genuinely, how the fuck can your stomach hold that much?

>>94691892
I exercise and I only eat one meal a day.

>>94691879
Will look into it, thanks!

>>94691797
Thank You CrimsonMoon Anon and a Happy New Year if I don’t see/read you then.

>>94691894
...Exercise is good, but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to have three meals a day. Not one.

>>94691878
Wait, we have an actual Kwanzaa celebrator in the thread?

>>94691900
I've been told the same thing as well. Just like I was told about the Food Pyramid(tm). When I abandoned those ideas and shifted to what I'm doing now my quality of life increased significantly.

>>94691902
No, but I guess it's Kwanzaa and that's what I'm doing right now. Later I'll blast some ropes to elf porn, but because of the holiday I guess I'll imagine the elves being brown rather than fair skinned.

>>94691787
Sounds like you are just describing tech vs DnD/Pathfinder mage. Which even there you can already do those same things with the same restrictions.

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>>94691912
>but because of the holiday I guess I'll imagine the elves being brown
Based.

>>94691915
That's an example of limited magic but I was also comparing it to magic where the system isn't fleshed out enough to give it any sort of limitations or guidelines. I've never seen a magic system properly balance freedom with structure, they're always either too minimal and imagination-based, or too rigid and restricted, that's my whole point. A better balanced all-purpose "do whatever you want but there are certain limits" kit is found in super-science, for whatever reason.

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>>94691624
>Also any ideas for what kind of divine domain would go with trickery and the lost?
Congratulations, you are now the god of gypsies.

>>94691900
Nah that's bullshit. Do intermittent fasting and your life will be so much better for it.

>>94691900
nta, but it really doesen't matter at all as long as you make sure to get the proper amount of calories and nutrients in per day.

You're body gets used to whatever cycle of eating you're going with after a few days. And you barely even get hungry outside of thee times you usually eat at.

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>>94691950
Would that include space gypsies?

>>94691655
In one of the very earliest episodes (Season 1 or Season 2 IIRC), it's outright mentioned that the pylon-angels of the Saint Electric can and do just wander off and smash people's houses. WOG on the matter is that they even crafted the background of the Saint Electric with the idea that it was a human girl who ascended into godhood which...did nothing to keep the Saint Electric from murdering and feeding on humans as any other god. And it's established that all of the commercial gods are like this.

There are no good gods in the setting. It's even said as much, with the only gods that could be termed as decent by human standards being those like the Cairn Maiden - gods who are taking what is "already being offered".

>>94691172
>hypocritical oath
You are thinking of the Hippocratic Oath, named for Hippocrates of Kos. It is also attributed to him, but we do not know for sure that it was he who invented it. The earliest surviving (fragmentary) copy of the oath is from about six centuries after Hippocrates' actual life, so it might just be attributed to him in a very "Confucius say" sense. "Primum non nocere" (or "First, do no harm") is not actually said in the original oath, and was coined in the 19th century.

>>94691900
I only do two meals a day. One before work and one after. It has help me strong for years. On weekends I might only do one.

>>94691993
Yes, you are god of all gypsies; past present, future, space and fantasy.

Hey Nubee if you're around if I take fluid production and homeostasis do I still need to eat and drink to produce piss?

>>94691624
>Trickery
>the Lost
You are the Labyrinth. You are the Cave. You are the Woods. You are the dark, moonless Night. You are the places and times where mankind cannot find its way. The shadows dance and the eyes witness what Is Not There, for in the terror of his aimless wandering, Man Deceives himself without meaning to. He imagines predators he can fight or flee, shadows of creatures with teeth and claws, because there is nothing he can do about being Lost. Without the use of his eyes, he cannot find the path again. He does not even know when he is, never mind where. He invents a Beast that will grind his bones and strip his flesh, because that is less frightening to him than Not Knowing what might be lurking in your domain. If it is Nothing At All, that is even worse. He needs Something, as all creatures do. They can't work with Nothing. What are they supposed to do with Nothing?

>>94691993
Space gypsies get spaced. Do that a few thousand times and we'll see what that does with their propensity to steal technology from their """allies""".

>>94692033
Not NuBee and I don't know, but why do you want this information? That's a very specific question. Are you trying to escape the tetrahedron?

>>94691624
Depends what you mean by lost. Lost souls (which can be used to mean people lost in despair or other bad emotions, sinners lost to heaven or the unquiet dead), lost things, or just travellers who got lost? Do you make people and beings become lost, do you help the lost be found, do you protect the lost without making the become lost or helping them find themselves?
In order:
>a domain of mercy or healing, combining with trickery you send people in spirit quest to help them find themselves
>alternatively a domain of despair or rage, to make people become lost
>A domain of redemption to help sinner find salvation, or corruption to make people be lost
>A psychopomp domain to help lost souls get to the afterlife, or a undead/necromancy domain to keep the lost souls bound to the physical plane
>money domain or contracts to help people lose money in bad transactions. if you find somewhere to get cheap small domains, domains of socks and keys and other objects that keep getting lost. Nobilis is known for allowing a socks domain to be as powerful as more broad or conceptual domains.
>Travel domain is usually considered closely related to trickery, and can both make peole lost and help them get found.
>A wilderness domain or nature domain can also sub for travelling domain in helping making civilized people get lost, it can also mix with trickery if you assume an animal aspect related to trickery like crow, monkey, or fox.
>Ocean is another good domain for making things lost, a little less related to trickery tho.

>>94692033
Homeostasis DOES make it so you don't require food or water to stay healthy.

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>>94688224
>pic
We need more grown up Abi. Especially if they look cool as heck.

>>94692056
For times where jumper has a lot of time and limited access to advanced technology. Urine is a good source for potassium nitrate, used to make black powder, you just have to let it stew for a while.

>>94688224
Why is Abby wielding a fucking keyblade?

>>94692076
Yes but fluid production says that you can produce fluids in excess of what you ingest.

>>94692098
Yes, it DOES actually say you produce more than logically possible

>>94691032
I forgot that jump existed.

I want to say that I prefer it happening after spirit tracks, just cause the Wild West needs trains.

>>94692096
It’s the key to her dads house.

>>94692090
You're telling me there were practical applications for the piss bottles I kept in the back of my closet in college for months?

>>94691310
Given how many armies preferred to use stuff like spears and bows, I'll agree that swords are atleast less than ideal for use in actual warfare.

>>94691319
Definitely an underrated weapon.

>>94691594
Gonna have to disagree. There are a fuckton of jumps that take place before guns were invented, or prolific. And even when people have access to guns, bows are still quieter, easier to maintain, easier to get your hands on, and have reusable ammo.

>>94692138
If you wanted to make bombs, yes.

>>94692033
Do you want a real answer to that, or are you content with "fanwank away"?

>>94692151
No, I just kept them because I was hoping to figure out why they turned orange and where the sediment that eventually appeared at the bottom was coming from.

>>94692174
Well, now you know.

>>94692112
Yes but would that still count if I'm not drinking? For example your body is constantly replacing blood, of which some of that waste is removed through the urinary tract, because of homeostasis I am capable of living without needing to drink or eat which would imply my body can replace blood freely. Should I also be able to piss, jack off, cry, etc. freely?

>>94692153
I'm fine fanwanking but there are a few things that make me indecisive either way.

>>94692142
>>94691594
Bows are also better for a Jumper with super-strength, to an extent. Bows scale with their user's ability to draw them in a way that firearms and crossbows simply don't. Now, if you're so STRONG your draw causes the bow to snap in half, that's a problem, but the simple fact is that guns don't scale. A mundane toddler firing the same rifle you have, if they hit the target, will do the same amount of damage you do.

>>94692187
If you want my honest attempt at dictating how it works, I think you'd still to drink water, but if you're dictating piss under that option then your returns would be far greater than you put in. I really don't think it's a subject that requires a hard ruling though.

>>94692201
Super strength jumper can hold a bigger gun.

>>94692201
Slings scale better than bows do,

>>94692096
Yog-Sothoth is the Key and the Gate.

>>94692212
A toddler with a tripod could shoot the same gun that a super-strong Jumper carrying said gun in one hand could. Yes, you can maneuver the gun better. But the output remains the same regardless of Jumper's strength.

>>94692216
This is true. Atlatls are similarly privileged here.

>>94692216
>>94692226
Throwing bare handed scales better than slings do. Eventually you will be launching projectiles with such force that the device will break before your own arm maxes out.

>>94692224
Unless you had that one perk in Heavensanon's version of the ff7 jump

>>94692224
>A toddler with a tripod could shoot the same gun
I don't think you understand how recoil works. Or what toddlers are. Possibly both. A real contender for stupidest shit said on /tg/ 2024

>>94692231
We do have many javelins and throwing axes available throughout the Chain. You can also get them enchanted for fun extra effects, such as "also hits ghosts" or "comes back to your hand when thrown."

>>94692124
>>94692218
No, I get that she's supposed to have a key. But why is it a KEYBLADE?

I can practically feel Xehanort screaming in the distance.

Jumpers, how far into your chain are you when you finally decide to start having children?

>>94692211
That's fine. A bit of a logistical issue but far less of one than needing to procure supplies for basic survival.

>>94692257
28 Jumps. That's when Jumper's wives finally lost their patience and pinned Jumper down to make babbies.

I'm having trouble deciding who to recruit as companions that can make subordinate families in Jumper's sect for my cultivator chain. Basically I'm trying to think of couples/ships from martial art/fighting centric jumps, preferably jumps that are relatively low power level, that would make for interesting founders of a clans within Jumper's sect. I have a swordsman couple picked out, I'm looking for a good one for throwing hands and one for archery. The archery one is particularly hard for me to think of good options for, but I'd really like to have an archer family. Preferably I'd like to pick up side characters rather than main characters. If anyone has any suggestions for characters I could look into I'd be very grateful.

>>94692257
Post-Spark.

>>94692257
First jump and every jump thereafter.

>>94692257
Jump 1. I knocked up a teenage girl and got her boyfriend addicted to anal.

>>94692257
Depends on what you mean by "children." If I code an AI, is that my child? They don't have the same physical needs as a human child, but it's still a lifeform that I've created.

>>94692257
I generally don't bother having children. Unless it's a pregnophile chain, in which place about a week after the chain starts.

I don't have any particular aversion to forcefully adopting homeless orphans for a bit though

>>94692276
>got her boyfriend addicted to anal
You mean giving, right?

>>94692257
Define "children".

>>94692279
If AI count as children, then I had a child back in Jump 4.

>>94692285
He was a buttslut and though they still had sex he always had something shoved up there.

>>94692287
jumper spawn

>>94692257
Never happens, don't like kids.

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>>94692201
guns scale in the sense that a stronger character can wield much more powerful guns than a weaker person could practicely ield without having to worry about the recoil.

People are so fucking weird about guns here. It doesn't matter how strong you are, Deathstroke and the Punisher can and will kill you with a 9mm.

>>94692330
>Superman dies to a 9mm

>>94692268
Rin and Sakura from Fate Stay Night maybe?

They both have immense magical talent, and they probably inherited the trat of their mother that ensured that any child she gives birth to has immense potential.
Both also have elemental traits that probably do really well in Xianxia(Rin having an affinity for all fiv elements while Sakura has a special element that is especially effective against spirits).

Rin is also a great Martial artist and Sakura is a talented Archer.

>>94692330
Even Batman used a gun to kill Darkseid.

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>>94692303
Whenever gets the ability to have useful spawn instead of normal children or to rapidly age up his children.

>>94692338
Yes. Your personal strength doesn't matter, the technical specifications of the gun only barely matter. The gun is always the most powerful weapon because it always wins, that's just how it is.

>>94692338
reminder when you watch the new upcoming superman movie that he canonically ended up in the ICU because Bloodsport short him with a Kryptonite bullet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scMq3JhTX6A

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>>94692257
Is there any reason not to do it in jump 1? It's 10 fucking years and you are living the powertrip.
Even if you are starting in Pokemon, you at least should be quite a respectable trainer.

Really? Man with gun? How much old bait are you going to dig up?

>>94692387
Depending on your first jump, the place might suck or not being able to find a good enough waifu to settle down with. There is also a fear that you might become so happy that you choose to stay in jump 1 with your new family.

>>94692201
Bows scale a little according to how far back you can pull the bowstring, but it's not really enough to scale with super-strength. There's only so far you can physically pull back the bowstring for extra effect, and there's only so much tension that the limbs can exert. And then of course it can break. You start running into material constraints with bows just as much as you do chemical with guns. Arguably, this is even worse with bows, because you have to usually either really on natural materials like wood or horn because only a few have the requisite strength and flexibility, or else get into advanced material engineering with like carbon fiber and such. Arrows also have to be a certain strength and stiffness to work properly, and if you're dealing with super strength, you need to start worrying about super-durable fletching as well. Depending on the gun you have, it might actually be easier to scale, since you might be able to just increase the charge. This is how they used to aim black powder mortars and cannons back in the day, by varying the charges rather than manipulating the angle of the bore. And you can usually deal with the material constraints by just making the barrel thicker.

>>94692395
The ultimate form of a bow is the catapult, which doesn't scale at all with the user's strength.
The ultimate form of a gun is a particle accelerator, which also doesn't scale at all with the user's strength, except it does scale up depending on the amount of resources spent, which means a jumper can effectively improve on it infinitely

>>94692395
This is an interesting note, actually. Granted, with all the fantasy settings that have things like adamantine arrows and bows made for giants, the Chain mitigates these problems, but those same materials can also be used to make sturdier cannons.