RIP Battletech, Bandai just announced they're doing a hex-based tabletop miniatures game called Gundam Assemble.official text from the press release>What is GUNDAM ASSEMBLE?GUNDAM ASSEMBLE is a tabletop game that uses approximately 5 cm-sized Gunpla to battle. Each unit has abilities that reflect their unique characteristics, allowing players to enjoy scenarios that follow the original story, or diverge into situations that transcend the world of Mobile Suit Gundam series; thus, providing both a sense of recreation and distinct battles. Detailed rules and product specifications will be announced later.>Lineup Examples (Game Pieces)RX-78-2 GUNDAMMS-06S ZAKU ⅡWING GUNDAM ZERO EWGUNDAM AERIALKAPOOLARCHANGEL>Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTd6T-mUZHI
>KapoolI will now buy your game
whoops, forgot>Official websiitehttps://global.bandai-hobby.net/en-us/site/gundam-assemble/
>>94729475>RIP BattletechMore like RIP Jovian Chronicles.
Waiting to see if they can make a decent game but for the minis The already have Gundam Artifact at that size for people that want to get their feet wet before Assemble gets here. Artifact kits can be found in the US at Hobby Town USA or Hobby Lobby for $8-$10 each. They have 3 to 5 small sprues of parts and some of the parts are annoyingly tiny but they have great detail. Despite being snapfit it may be better to plan on doing subassemblies to help with painting and then glue them together.
>>94729706The shown Assemble sprue with the RX-78 MK2 looks to have much fewer pieces than the Artifact kits but then again the RX-78 is a very simple design. If you tried to use a pushfit only artifact kit in a minis game you'd have parts falling off left right and center.
>>94729475in the trailer you can also see Sinanju, Rising Freedom, Aerial, Aile Strike and Tallgeese.Bit sad it's shaping up to be a hero skirmish type of thing, rather than OYW wargame, but I'm still curious.
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>>94729850They do say it's going to have a kind of scenario play, so we'll see if it ever gets into recreating skirmish fights more than duels. tbf it's a smart move to start with this. The gundam fanbase is fairly character driven.I'm happy either way because I already know there's gonna be a dom 3 pack and that's all I ever needed.
>>94729475>5 cm-sizedlol lmao dead on arrival
>>94729850It's the curse of crossover games.
MMmmm and what's the price? because gunpla has cheap super detailed and fully articulated stuff. I know is not the same because one is essentially a figure for exhibition and the other a tabletop figure...but you have entry grades cheaper than $10, if these figures are going to cost around the same while being less detailed, not articulated, having no color separation whatsoever, etc...I'm out>>94729706Yeah I'm not a fan of artifacts for the same reason
>>94729850They haven't spent millions on cartoons just to release a product that will only appeal to a minority of their customer basis, one would imagine.
Post your worst case predictions>it will be sold in randomised booster packs, space marine heroes style>it will rely on heaps of cards that will be impossible to update and thus they won't balance existing units>the tiny board in the teaser will be the only available game size>they will overcommit into the latest series and when those fail, people will lose interest
>>94730002>cards will be randomized too. So you might get two RX78 but one will be "mythic" and the other "common" because of the cards
>>94729850OYW fans are a ageing demographic at this point i would guess Bandai is trying to appeal to younger fans
>>94729855great tallgeese pose but I would have liked it more if the left leg was folded up higher
>>94730002>>94730031Just remember that the Gatcha money is eternal.
Can't wait for my Byarlant and TR-5 Gaplant...because I'm going to get those, right?
Mechastellar is going to get some actual miniatures instead of reusing Gatchapon.
>>94730002>they will overcommit into the latest series and when those fail, people will lose interestI mean, if Quack does as well as WfM, that's not really that much of a problem.Also, you've failed to account for the ACTUAL worst case scenario>powerful units sold exclusively on PBandai.
>>94730446Pbandai is just eastern Forge World.
>>94730489Forge World is approaching crack prices per gram of plastic, does it not?
not buying until all my favorite obscure OYW suits get in
>>94730172First of all, Bandai made the Byarlant in wave 1 of the Artifact kits. Second, they have already announced the Kapool of all things as being in the first wave, so anything is possible here.
>>94730537Sorry, you'll see the zakrello getting a mini ever.
>>94730545God she's so sexy, look at those thighs and hip...those swimmer shoulders
>>94729850Yeah, it's all so all over the place. Say what you will about CGL but I think the way they've been dividing their releases between new stuff and updated minis and box sets focusing on established eras is the way to go.
This will never kill Battletech but if the game is even vaguely, remotely decent I'll be investing my life savings into it
It's a bit funny to see people losing their minds over having to paint the minis. Pretty sure they'll do something like blindbags for the minis to get better earnings off of the mini sales. Especially if most of them are on single sprues like >>94729722
>>94731228for the Japanese market, 100% a lot of these will be in blind boxes even GW does that.less sure for overseas markets though.
>>94731246GW still sells regular kits in Japan. If you mean the SM Heroes series, yah that was a weird way they tried to break into the Japanese market.
>>94731319somewhat worked though if I recall correctly Japan is a growing market for GW right now their success in Japan might have been part of the reason for Bandai to do an attempt at a miniature wargame
>>94729850The card game is also a mix of series and seems balanced enough (for now)
I am interested.it is to bad we won't see Zaku Hordes for Zeon as an effective strategy...i want to field a full squad of 12 Zaku'sIf they DON'T make a Char Custom Mecha or 3 this game will suffer losses.If it's just Gundam vs. Gundam w' a few customs thrown in on the side, i will not be happy.
>>94731442when did that card game release?
>>94731461Zaku are getting models going by some of images shown off online
>>94731461The game has too small of a board to really have hordes of Zaku, Guntanks, and other mook-mobiles getting blasted by named characters. So just do what I do when I play 40k and imagine each squad of mooks is significantly larger and the game piece is a stand in for 100 guardsman
>>94731641S...sixty white devils?
>>94730424The first thing I thought of as well, is that hopefully this becomes a blanket higher quality source for smaller scale gundam. The game itself interests me, but if I can cludge together some ruins and play whatever agnostic mechas I want without having to use rare chase candy toys off ebay, then I'm set.>>94731497The only thing I could ask from it at this point was confirming alt poses so you could army build, and we've already got an alternate gundam and char's zaku. And multibased balls! What's the thing in the back though? It's tiny, is that a fucking mobile worker?
>>94729475I like how gundams are build but they look gay af, all DEX based robots are gay af. So no it won't be huge.Cool robots are STR or CON be it titans or battlemechs. If japs can drop their obsession with gay boots skirts and unless shit sticking out of robot frame for no fucking reason than maybe but we all know they won't so I don't care and my club won't either.
>>94731758>ooh, I need my mechs to be RUGGED, and MANLYYeah your gay club, homo.
>>94731758RX93 literally stopped a 15km wide meteorite with its hands
>>94731725Is that a White Dingo GM on the far right?So MSV and non animated works are getting in too?If that's the case, then the unit card will be miniature dependent in most cases. Even Star Wars Shatterpoint unique profiles and minis for Clone Troopers.People are speculating a mixed starter set and then maybe semi thematic squad packs. Hopefully nothing is randomised.
>>94731725Did not genuinely expect to see actual ships getting added in the start, that's for sure. Though I wonder if it's just the Archangel or if other hero ships will appear as well.Though what the hell is going on with what's going on with that MS at the back swinging it beam saber and the thing it's meleeing?>fuck this 15 minute captcha bullshit and fuck the pajeet and thirdie shits that caused this
>>94731942That's the unicorn, the things in front are its deployable shield bits. It's not meleeing anything, the model just take two tiles
>>94731963forgot pic
Show me The O, cowards! WHERE IS MY CHONKY BOY
I want monoeyes with v-fins!!!
God, just imagine having board effects of having to deal with superweapon bullshit during a game.
>>94731463Last month in some places, in fact this board game was announced at an Orland event for the card game.
>>94729877Why? Plenty of wargames have 50cm models. Picrel, for example. It looks like they're going with a small model count game, so smaller models are pointless. Better to have a larger, nicer model than some tiny ones with poorer detail.>>94730508FW was approaching precious metals prices for badly made resin. Thank god it's dead.>>94731641>>94730002>Tiny board>The game has too small of a boardThat might be pushed as a feature? I know one of the major problems every wargame has in the Japanese market is literally nobody has space for a table to play the game on.
>>94729475>Japanese wargameIt's probably either going to be too autistic or not nearly autistic enough for Battletech fans to want to change over to.Desu, if Bandai does somehow get the autism levels right, good. Catalyst a shitfaggot and needs real competition.
>>94732043Could be much worse, imagine having board effects based on storyline events. > Bring in your TMF/A-802 BuCUE spam list > Finally rolls a desert map> Rolls on the random event table : "accidentally capture your opponent's pilots before the battle". > Roll again, get "Befriend and free them because war is complex" > This also means you can only attack them one at a time during the battle, because it would be unfair to use your terrain advantage.> In the end your ace commits suicide> Turns out he didn't really and defected to your opponent's side.
>>94732232>That might be pushed as a feature? I know one of the major problems every wargame has in the Japanese market is literally nobody has space for a table to play the game on.Smaller board makes it easier to a upscale to 1/44
>>94729475Hot damn, I might actually get into a wargame now!
>>94730002>they will overcommit into the latest series and when those fail, people will lose interestNah, Bandai was burned way too hard by Gundam AGE, they've been super cautious ever since. They still haven't even done an MG Aerial.
>>94732392wait is that up to escale? from the HG it seemed the same size as the RX78 but there is clearly smaller and narrower
>>94731758ah, a Xamel enthusiast
>>94732232The smaller board is probably a feature more oriented for the Japanese community. A regular claim is that historicals, 40k, wargaming, etc have difficulty making headway in Japan is how much more limited space is there
I am so fucking excited for this, it has potential to be really really cool. It also has the potential to be shit. Post your Gunpla projects.
>>94732617>Gunpla projects.Most of us don't have time for display pieces, but whatever man.
>>94730002>>94731725The size of these boards suggest a very...abstract gameplay.
>>94732676>Most of us don't have timeYou're supposed to take your time. Or you could just do a snap.
>>94732043>Finally got my GM squad ready for a game>Luckily the map works for me, a bunch of cover to use>opponent rolls up>Drops a single GP02 on the field>Blows up all the cover with his nuke>loads up another one>MFW
>>94732689I mean, not really. There may be a difference between the mecha scale and map scale, but gundam always has their marquee fights happen within shouting distance of the enemy.
>>94729475I'll safely be able to ditch 40k and Battletech now. I'm glad that it has multiple timelines represented.
>>94732767If you assume that the Archangel is sized accurately and the Suits are exaggerated, then yeah that's basically how fights in the show usually play outAnd that's how Battletech scale works too, the minis are like four times the size of the "actual" robots.
>>94732759>Opponent turn moves his Unicor>"So I travel in time and age your nuclear reactors">>Refuses to elaborate further>Leaves>"Sore demo"
>>94732807>Opponent puts down Turn A>"So i activate the wings, all your models are gone now">"What?">Grabs my models, crumbles them into dust>takes my phone out of my hands and smashes it>"its just how it works"
As someone who gives no fucks about western IPs anymore, I might actually start playing wargames now. I wish that there were more nipponese/anime wargames in general but grimdark is king I suppose.
>>94732882I wonder if those are enough purupuru for Puru
Wake me up when they show off the Destiny Gundam mini
>>94732796>>94732767With a single mapsheet being considered too small for a lance vs lance game in BT, the size of these gundam maps suggest at least chess-tiers of gameplay abstraction.
>>94732807>>94732860>Opponent puts down Gundam X>We roll for Enviromental effects for the game>the roll says the moon is out>Game over man, game over
HORRY SHITTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEE
i am extremely hyped for this, but i'm also 95% sure this is going to be complete ass ruleswise
>>94729475I just wish that Battletech's models weren't so bad. I don't even mind the designs, but the PVC material is so shitty compared to hard plastic. Given the quality of Gunpla I'll buy figures for this game even if I just end up proxying them into Battletech or whatever.>>94732937I have faith as Bandai's One Piece card game is actually good. I can see the game being decent, but it will definitely be more casual than most wargames.
>>94732911You gotta remember that a main conceit of the original Gundam is that all ships generate Minovsky Particles which make it difficult or impossible to get a radar or radio lock on them. So Mobile Suits were invented to literally fly right up to them and shoot them in the dick. And then the other side invented Mobile Suits to fight the other side's Mobile Suits to try to stop them from shooting their ships in the dickSo Mobile Suit combat is usually very close up dogfights.
>>94732945there are still metal minis for battletech though not everyone likes working with metali love metal minis though personally
> The game itself won't be an army-based game, but will rather feature small groups of 2-3 mechs and will use 10-sided dice for playand the hype is deadi wanted to drown gundams in a sea of zakus
>>94732945>the PVC material is so shitty compared to hard plasticGod this. Mold lines that don't scrape properly, rubbery details, being a bitch to file down, etc. I'm thankful most Battletech designs are 3d printable because fuck me working with the current official minds blows.
>>94732982I wouldn't be super worried. Most of the big hero skirmish games have some sort of profile for accommodate hordes of weaker dudes.
>>94732998yeah but they already showed a kapool by himself i don't think a kapool is gonna be doing much lifting against the other shit we've seenthough i guess it's a good sign if they bother to toss him in there
>>94732962I thought zeon invented mobile suits coverted from construction machines because they weren't allowed by the federation to have actual weapons of war. Or at least that's what I understood from Origin
>>94733035you don't think the kapool stands a chance against Unicorn with Banagher in full newtype awakening?
>>94733035The Kapool comes with two beam weapons, making it absolutely capable of wrecking a Gundam.
would be neat if they actually did mobile armors as minis
>>94733101well they already showed a warship so mobile armor wouldn't be out of the question
>>94732807>people still believe Unicorn travels through timeIt was a literal mind trip and the mobile suit was destroyed by it's own psycho-frame.
>>94733101Once the Big Zam minis are mass produced...
>>94733076Zeon developed Mobile Suits from construction robots in secret, but it was because of the thing I said.
>>94733196Rewatch Narrative, they literally tell you that yes, Unicorn can time travel and it aged engines of the jegans
>>94729601To say RIP, it would have to be alive in the first place.
>it failsI get cool new battlemechs and aerospace assets.>it succeedsI get cool new gundam game to play.Either way I win
>>94733076Close but not exactly. They intended them for military use from day one, but it would be impossible to fully cover up such a big program, so they ended up presenting them as construction vehicles to look less threatening to the Federation. They also used and exported the initial models as such as they had no military application anyways.This is similar how before WW2 Germany cooperated with USSR on designing and building "tracked tractors".
>>94729475kinda disappointing actuallyspecific gundams and poses suggests no customization was in mindexpected bandai to have tried innovating on that front
>>94733375But set loadouts let them sell more minis with different equipment
>>94733375Of course it's specific Gundams, what else would it be? Just a whole bunch of GMs and Zakus?
>>94733265Narrative is not canon
>>94729850It would be kind of crazy to sacrifice the variety they've built up by narrowing the timespan. I do think it would be better to limit it to universal century, but at least it should be a free for all within thatI'm just at like, a wiki skim reader level of interest in Gundam but if there's room in the lore for outdated mobile suits to still be used in the later period of the universe they can just assign point values that are lower for the older ones and have the fluff be that its random contrived small zeon style terrorist attack number a million and its a hastily cobbled together force of new and old mobile suits on both sides.
>>94733383and neither is Unicorn
>>94733394Neither CCA, Hathaway, Z and ZZ
>>94729722>>94729855Holy shit, bandai won
>>94733419or Mobile Suit Gundam after the introduction of the G-fighter
>>94733381taht could work for a squad based skirmish game >>94733379on the other hand, a versatile design that allows customization could save on the cost of making a new mold for every different load outemphasis on "could" though, the economic voodoo may indeed say that new mold is more profits
>>94731790>I need to look like woman to feel like a manI didn't say rugged and I ment functional.>>94731804Sure, still look gay doing it. Why else dose it have 2 dildos on its back?>>94732418There are some normal looking mechs in gundam but it's usually some mobs for MC to blow up in a balerina looking thing or your pic which looks like bunker with hands, this thing couldn't even walk on its own without magic or some shit.I want to like it cuz model quality is great and they are fun to build(made one for a present) but fuck me 99.9% looks retarded.
>>94729850The Twitter account mentioned that there will be story scenarios if you want to keep things lore friendly.
>>94733473Can't wait for 500,000 "Zeon won the OYW" scenarios. Yes I know about the GQuacks story leaks.
>>94733473>canon scenariosif you're playing the role of the autism kid in space in the OYW then what will your friends play as
>>94733490The weird groomers they have to fight of course
>>94732232They could have used slightly bigger, nicer, models if the model count is 3-5 anyway
>>94733513Damn lucky Uso, he had tons of women dropping at his feet...metaphorically and literally like flies. Uso slayer of pussy
>>94733544yeah i mean if the game is supposed to be 2-3 figures why not just use a 4x6 table like a normal wargame and just use existing kits
>>94729475Nigga we had this for 12 years https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/156768/samurai-robots-battle-royaleASOBH engine, which works really well for everything except the age of musketry for some weird reason
>>94733544This game seem to be made for the nipponese with their tiny apartments and tiny houses and tiny statures (Average height 5'6") than those of us caucasians with big tables and houses. I hope that there is a version or at least some homebrew for taking advantage of bigger tables at least.
>>94733578You could probably take the same rules and replace the miniatures with 1/144 Gundam models. Maybe 1/100s if you're feeling spicy.
>>94729601Jovian Chronicles has been shifted to fleet scale for ages now.
>>94733578>>94733591if the rules are even worth playingsomething tells me it's going to be ass
>>94733602The card game and the One Piece card game have actually been pretty good. I doubt that it will be anywhere near as hardcore and simulationist as Battletech but as a more casual game I don't see Bandai fucking up.
>>94733609Speaking of the Gundam card game, I am a little worried that the two Gundam games will cannibalize each other's potential playerbase a little bit, especially with all of Bandai's other card games.
>>94733481>spoilerthe new gundam is an alt universe post OYW?a zaku was in the trailer
>>94731725>a game where a Torohachi can be fielded against the fucking Archangel
>>94733647from the leaksChar steals the rx78 and destroys side 7, killing Amuro, and Zeon wins the war. The show takes place in the year 85But still think the main mobile suit looks nothing from UC around that decade
>>94731725>Two balls on the same baseOne is even positioned lower, sasuga Bamco.
>>94730002>Post your worst case predictionsNo Hygogg
>>94733688There's leaked design art of Char's red Gundam and it doesn't look like anything directly out of the UC either. It looks like what you'd get if you redesigned the RX78 with the same mechanical art style as the series main suit or the Eva units, though, and then of course painted it red and slapped on some Elmeth funnels.
>>94729475>bunch of professional GW cocksucker youtubers make videos about gunpla in the last few months>Bandai suddenly announces it's getting into the wargame marketI wonder if this was the plan all along, or if it was just a coincidence.
>>94733804Yes it is. Bandai is mobilizing to take over the entire nerdsphere. They will not stop, they have gunpla money.If anyone is dumb enough to fall for the shallow, vein attempt at breaking into traditional gaming then they deserve to be turned into paycattle.
>>94729475I'm not interested in playing a game on a tiny hex map.
>>94729475>grid-based>non-posable minis>no mass production unitsDisappoint.
>3 monopose, single color, non articulated minis more expensive than some HGswhat the fuck?
>>94733973>non-posable minisAt that scale I prefer nonposable minis. Too much articulation on such a small model will just compromise the sculpt>no mass production unitscheck again>>94731497>>94731725
>>94733996it's a starter set, so presumably it will also have a game board, the rules, and whatever counters and dice and other ephemera you need to play a complete game. The Battletech starter is 60 bucks
>>94730002>Post your worst case predictions I can't flood the board with various GMs, and Ball, units.
>>94733996I can't help but notice Blue-Feddie, Green-Wing, Red-Zeon, and White-SEED are almost exactly the same distribution of factions as the Gundam TCG first set. The difference is that Red is Neo-Zeon/Sleeves in the card game instead of OYW Zeon, who are in Green alongside the Wing boys.
>>94733996It is 35 USD for a TCG card deck and 3 minis.
>>94734134so you're forced to buy the TCG if you want to play the wargame? or both games are actually just 1 game?
>>94734007I don't believe those are mass production variants. They can't be given the games apparent small size and the other units around. I'll also add>hero focused most likelyto that list.
>>94734200>I don't believe those are mass production variantsYou don't think the circled models are mass production Suits?
>>94734216I suspect that they are custom, in order to keep up with the gundam units. Otherwise they would be dead weight.
>>94734200There is a Zaku I, 2 GM's, and Zaku II in that display case friend.
>>94734225Other possibility; the game doesn't work the way you're assuming it works.
>>94734141As an initial sale, yes. I am pretty sure they will sell the starters for each game separately in the subsequent months.
>>94734237In what world would a regular Zaku I stand a chance against Wing Gundam Zero EW? These aren't large games, no more than a dozen mechs per game. Either all the elite suits are garbage, or the mass production ones are custom in order to keep up. Or it's entirely depended on hero pilots.
>>94734255I'm going to destroy Unicorn with a torohachi mark my words
>>94734255I take it that you haven't ever played a miniatures game before?
>>94734255They completely ignored canonical power scaling in the now-defunct Gundam hero shooter, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it again. But regardless, they've released nothing about the rules so you can't say anything with any certainty.
>>94734269You might as well hang a sign around your neck saying "I AM A 40KIDDIE I ONLY CONSUME SLOP"
>>94734255Check Star Wars Shatterpoint.The stats aren't going to be consistent with the lore as this is a multiverse game.
>>94734238>>94734272>>94734255Use the power scaling of the card game as a guide.Geara Zulu, RX-78 and Strike Gundam are all similar.
>>94734283Thanks for confirming.
>>94734298The card game straight up has three different versions of the standard RX-78-2 so far; a vanilla common, a "Legendary Rare" that seems to be intended as a starter deck face card, and a token that can be generated by White Base's card. Plus the goofy-ass "Gundam wearing the G-Fighter on its legs" as its own card.
>>94734238>>94733996https://www.gundam-gcg.com/jp/cards/Beta card list here. The Zeon ones will most likely all be revised into red.
>>94734255And this is why I want to be able to field 12 Zakus....3 won't fucking do...
>>94734238I wonder what the actual starter sets will look like, I hope that there is some map variety with them.
>>94734134>>94734238I don't know where you're getting the idea that they're bundling these, especially since the green OYW Zeon cards and the red Unicorn Neo Zeon cards have different set codes.
>>94734408>Check set codes again just to be sure>They aren't actuallyOh god I'm retarded.Still, it could just be brand synergy to make starters for the TCG and mini games with the same characters in them.
>>94734272that's lame, the whole point of fielding shit suits is because they're shitif they're all the same what's the point
>>94734238they bundled with the starter deck not the beta set that shown on your picture
>>94732945>>94732989Fucking seconded, god damn. Especially when the minis are MECHA, full of tight spots, folds, panel lines, and other shapes that would be a bitch to scrape mold lines off any other material. After a certain point with Battletech, I just started ignoring mold lines, injection point bumps, and wrinkles. Fuck it. And this is coming from someone who is extremely diligent on that stuff with other minis and Gunpla. At least the gun barrels drilled out easily in Battletech; I will give them that.
>>94729475>beam weapon> newtypesNo fucking thank you>witch from mercury YuriOK, I'm in.
>>94734522if this is successful I hope we will get grunt suits outside the uc timeline.
>>94729475No Acguy, no buy.Simple as.I am genuinely interested in this, so I hope it isn't complete garbage.
>>94732982Gotta see if the rules would just allow big army mode by playing equal points and just paste maps ir something
>>94734450>>94734522It looks like colour coding is not relevant to the minis game, yet.So Zeon is green, Neo Zeon and ZAFT will be red. The colours correspond to unit affinity and also some canonical factions.At this point, the focus is the card game, the minis game will come later. The 3 minis may just be a prerelease bonus with or without rules at this stage.
I'm betting even if the game is crap people are going to just homebrew custom Battletech Alphastrike rules for it. Just replace heat with pilot stress and hero and newtype pilots are able to ignore a lot of the penalties for pilot stress.>Oh, you're trying to triangulate several fin funnels for an attack from several hexes away while using high speed thrusters and taking fire from enemy mobile suits?>That changes your hit roll to an 11 on 2d6>Oh, you have a newtype pilot?>Just a 6 thenAnd then people will realize they can just 3D print whatever Gundam they want. Yes, even Tequila Gundam.
>selling plastic crack to go with cardboard crack>selling cardboard crack to go with plastic crack"Like the hood in the 80's" etc. etc.
Now I just need to get appropriate skulls to decorate my bases. I hope that we see some waterslides that fit the models. I'd love to get something along the lines of the Gundam side stories decals with different unit insignia.
Good, fuck Lancer.
They should have made rules to use existing gunpla, but I get that that doesn't make as much money.
>>94735071Get the maps printed at triple scale and use your 1/144s that way. That's what I'm planning to do at least.
>>94735071Literally nothing is stopping you from using gunpla as models
>>94733911Then use the rules on a 1/144 scale 10x10 hex map
>>94735071Gunpla make for far cheaper knights in 40slop. Look better too
>>94735151One side effect of getting into 40K was also getting into gunpla so that I could at least sometimes make purchases that I felt were good value.
>>94734141I think the idea is that the starter decks come with a promotional Gundam Assemble mini
>>94733996yeah these are just starter decks for the card game that come with Assemble kits as a promotional thing, notably these ones aren't proper Assemble legal minis either as they don't come on the proper hex bases but instead round bases
I'm mostly just hoping people actually play the game. The only Bandai product my LGSs actually carry is Digimon, and it's carried exclusively by some Digimon pro coincidentally living near me. One Piece is dead here, both Dragon Ball TCGs are dead, and one LGS is doing Union Arena prereleases but I can't imagine that's drawing in a crowd.Maybe some Warhammer guys will pick it up?
Damn, if only the models were closer in size to Battletech models I would just ignore their game rules and stat them up in megamek, make sheets and just use them on Battletech map sheets with Battletech rules, naybe with a few custom rules
>>94729855Fuck me I'll gave to pick this up at least
>>94734225
>>94735054There's 1/144 kits out there for the Zeon and Federation tanks. But too limited and expensive for wargame purposes.
>>94734225Gundams aren't powerful godsuits in the original series. The grunts almost always outscale them by the end of the series; a Gelgoog is just an objectively better suit than the RX-78-2, and some late-model GMs also surpass it, as examples. Or look at the Zeta Gundam, where it's relegated to mook status in under a year when ZZ takes place.
>>94735239As someone who likes painting and building models, which is a big part of the Gundam fandom, I can see myself playing this. I like that Gundam as a franchise hasn't been enshitened like other franchises getting licensed miniatures games (Star Wars, Halo, Fallout, Marvel etc.)
>>94735360Gundams, when new, are typically cutting edge and generally superior to every unit they encounter. Typically around a third to halfway through the show they will then begin encountering units that either match them or exceed them and that is also when a lot of Gundam units get upgrades to keep up. Even the RX-78-2 gets an upgrade at Jaburo to make it react faster to keep up with Amuro and the GMs are built off the data from the Gundam itself which is why they do so well. The Gelgoog, had it been encountered even a month earlier in-setting, could have bought Zeon a good bit of time, but that's the drawback of your government prioritizing other units, the "wunderwaffe" of Zeon like the Big Zam.
>>94735400The Gundams usually fight against relatively old suits in their debut, which is why they're so "advanced". The Zaku II was close to nine months old when the RX-78-2 showed up. The Gundam MkII launched two years after the Hizack, and the Zeta Gundam a full three years.Meanwhile the suits that surpass them are mass-produced at roughly the same time as the Gundams debut. The Gelgoog was mass produced only two weeks after the RX-78-2 launched. The Marasai came out the same year as the MkII, and the Hambrabi only a month after the Zeta.Zeon's biggest issue wasn't their wunderwaffe mobile armor projects, because even despite that they met great deadlines and had projects like the Universal Maintenance Plan. Their downfall was internal corruption and in-fighting. The Gundam would never have made it to Jaburo if Char helped Garma, or if M'Quve gave Ramba Ral the Doms, as examples.
>>94735444>The Gelgoog was mass produced only two weeks after the RX-78-2 launched.Where the fuck are you getting this information? The Gundam was launched September 5, 0079 while the Gelgoog saw its first use at the Battle of A Baoa Qu on December 31, 0079, three months and twenty-six days after the Gundam launched.
>>94735479My apologies. I thought the RX-78-2 launched on December 1st.
>>94732232>50cm modelsTo begin with, the models you posted aren't half a meter tall. Second, while they may be 5cm tall, they're still in 28mm heroic scale. If you don't have even a basic understanding of how miniature scale works, you probably shouldn't post about it.
Newtype magic could be fun if you can intercept an enemy card or action with itI would be disappointed if the game doesnt really have that kind of mechanic and its just SRW but in board form
>>94735609I don't hate Magic Newtype Bullshit as much as some people do, but keep in mind this is a multiverse game. Wing Zero EW has to have at least a fighting chance against Unicorn or Turn A with nothing but a really big beam gun.
>>94735703Wing has it's own stuff. In fact for as much crap as people give newtypes, there sure are a lot of "this gundam has the ultradevil system that makes it glow and gives it +20% dodge and attack power" that seem to get a free pass.
>>94735721Zero system is actually pretty comparable to what Newtypes were shown to be capable of up to 1996 or so when Wing was first airing, and that kind of stuff isn't what people are usually talking about when they're complaining about Newtypes. Usually they're complaining about Unicorn.
>>94733547But he did what other japs did when they see woman, run away instead.
>the card game uses the minisWhat does this meanAre they just glorified tokenshttps://youtu.be/QKxmw_6Z7fc?si=K9v66p-1L8H2vXMg
>>94735703You can always do rank systems like SDGO.
>>94735721>>94735829I'd like to remind you that one of characters in Wing (I think the guy who operates the Peacemillion ship, Mike Howard) makes a passing mention about how he thinks Zechs is a Newtype which is basically brushed off.
>>94735854>Are they just glorified tokensYeah. It's not part of the card game's mechanics. Just a cute little decoration for your cards.They absolutely know people are going to bring gunpla with them to their LGS so they got in ahead of the curve.Kind of surprised Magic doesn't do this for Commander. Or Yugioh given its whole hologram gimmick in the show.
>>94735879If Gundam went back to Memory from the Digimon tcg instead of using not-mana like One Piece, minis would have worked as memory markers. I've seen plenty of people use small Digimon toys as memory markers.
>>94735895>I've seen plenty of people use small Digimon toys as memory markers.Those are official, a lot of Digimon products come bundled with one.Now that you mention it, that's probably where they got the idea.
>Gundam>Uses d10's>Hex map>Doesn't need a fuck ton of space to play>Models don't look like fiddly bullshitThis has my attention. Always happy to have a new game to look into, even if nobody locally will play it because they'll still be too busy jerking off about The Old World and 30K.Will 100% dive in if they give us the NT-1, Victory V2 and the GX series.
>>94731758When it comes to mechanized warfare, a CON build is almost always the shittiest thing you could possibly waste your resources on.
>>94735854That's just usual Japanese media corp cross-promotion.>please use our super special minis for the unrelated card game because it looks cool
>>94733473Kek. They better limit themselves to cartoon canon, though I'd certainly love to play getting two aquatic suits across this desert map while a ninja Gundam is trying to kill my units.Or the extended african campaigns with all of their weird, local variants.
>>94736252Why would they limit themselves? This is Bandai we're talking about, and the Gunpla division in particular.
>>94736275The manga and novel stuff largely doesn't have Gunpla associated with it. Promoting it won't generate sales of other, existing products.
Anyone else think they kind of fucked this up? I really would have liked a more middle-scale wargame where you could build an actual army or warband.. than what here essentually looks like a hex-grid boardgame.I understand the need to have every series involved, but some UC only rules could have been fun too if battles were decently sizes. This looks like just some way to market mini gunpla instead of an actual game. Also it feels like they did everything they could to not step on GW's toes with the scale and everything else. Personally I was hoping they'd be the ones finally making a fairly well put together wargame to go against GW and eat their lunch.
>>94736252This is just Bandai slop, youre supposed to turn your brain off and get conglomerated into a new game of shit to buy without setting or context other than the single word "gundam"
>>94736428this is Bandai's first attempt at a wargame in at least 2 decades if not more so they are taking baby steps into the field
>>94736461They have decades of other games to look at and learn from though.
>>94736494Corporate learning always starts from zero.
>>94736428This is clearly a small scale, simple entry with lots of fan favorites to test out something that's historically been a very small part of their market. The fact that they're actually releasing hard plastic wargame-type miniatures at all is a big development. While it would be nice if they made exactly the game I want to play, suddenly launching into a simulationist 6X4 board with terrain wargame with combined arms and army sets and starter boxes and all of that would be a lot from a community that has very little history of it up until lately.
>>94736428>Anyone else think they kind of fucked this up?Fucked it up? Not necessarily. I mean, Warhammer Underworlds seems to be kinda similar, being a deck building game with some token miniatures to move around on a tiny hex-board. And it probably makes decent money for GW and its frequently played and has a competetive scene too as far as i know.So i can see this work for this game also. However, when i saw the hexes and deckbuilding with cards, it lost me right there.
>>94736548>suddenly launching into a simulationist 6X4 board with terrain wargame with combined arms and army sets and starter boxes and all of that would be a lot from a community that has very little history of it up until lately.It worked for Star Wars Legion, so it would have been an option. Its not like Bandai does not have the funds to spend for such an "all-in" approach.
>>94734255Quick solution>make grunt suits respawn>make hero suits not respawn
>>94736428the anime rarely had actual wars and more skirmishes so I think they were trying to at least sell the idea that players could replicate iconic skirmishes from the animeLike Amuro vs the black doms or the blue zaku
>>94736389Moongundam? AoZ? Crossbones?
>>94736573I don't think Star Wars Wargames is a situation Bandai should be aspiring towards considering how quickly X-wing and Armarda died and generally leery enough about legion
>>94736573That would be the case if bandai was selling the game to an existing games manufacturer in order to let them handle it. Bandai isn't too crazy about doing that sort of thing. There's been dudes trying to get bandai to sell them rights to make an "official gundam wargame" for years now and it's pretty obvious why they were never interested.We've had enough cases of mecha franchises getting into rights troubles over selling to foreign games and animators lol
>>94736389>The manga and novel stuff largely doesn't have Gunpla associated with it.....whu?The Nightingale, the Hi-Nu, every Crossbone Gundam, the FUCKING ASTRAYS are all manga and novel Suits
>>94736649>>94736389There's way more manga and novels going around than just those, is my point. Especially in recent years, there's been a massive push to put more Gundam-branded manga out, for whatever reason, though not even all the stuff published up to the 90s got plamo yet.
>>94736662But you said you hoped Bandai would limit themselves to only stuff that showed up in cartoons. Which they definitely won't, they will absolutely do an Astray, a Crossbone, and a Hi-Nu because those are super popular Suits.
>>94736609X-wing did not die fast. It was incredibly popular for years. Them fucking up in the long run is not something that necessarily would happen to Bandai too.
>>94736669I'd be happy to see more non-cartoon siuts, but chances are that they aren't going to do suits that don't have corresponding gunpla.
>>94736681GW tends to get a little more out there with the smaller, cheaper kits. Like, a few years back they did a blind box series that had the Mandala Gundam and the goddamn Geze. Neither of which ever got proper kits.The opening line of Assemble includes the Kapool. The Kapool does technically have a kit, but it's 30 goddamn years old.
>>94736710>GWBandai. Goddamn
>>94736566Underworlds gets ~13 players on average per event according to 3rd party metawatch sources dont know if that's necessarily the success they're looking for
>>94732676Commission a painter using the money you got from your highly successful professional career.
>>94730033There was literally just a OYW show released Granted it wasn't superb
>>94736880Bandai is at least very much dedicated to keeping all of its customers engaged.
>>94729601What is a jovian chronicles?
>>94736925Canada's attempt at a rip-off ZZ Gundam wargame.
>>94736604Isn't 40k like that too? Many of the stories are small scale moments involving a handful of marines. Each anime typically has like a few largescale battles too. If we're talking Wing, then its full of large battles. I think something with 15 models on each side would've been a good amount, something that plays like Killteam instead of Underworld
>>94736710This makes me hope that the G-Gundam models will be regular release rather than most of the shuffle alliance being P-Bandai.
>>94738159oh, let's be clear about this right now. All the Suits you want will be P-Bandai
so what's your ideal 3 suit lineup brosi'm going gouf custom, kampfer, and zaku ii kai
>>94738369Kshatriya, Qubeley and Nightingale
>>94729475I don't want to be technicolor robot samuraiI just want to spam tanks
>>94732962Wasn't it late-war where missiles started being programmed to triangulate based on the center of a Minovsky Particle field? Forced MS to bunch up close or be singled out and homed on, which could lead to interesting rules.
>>94732882>>94732908Once the Red-headed Waifus are mass produced, the Federation is finished!>>94733804>>94733841>If anyone is dumb enough to fall for the shallow, vein attempt at breaking into traditional gaming then they deserve to be turned into paycattle.That's rich considering you are almost certainly defending Games Workshop paypiggism...
>>94738518Death to Riddhe
>>94736389Also, video games. Gundam video games brought us the Blue Destiny units, almost every version of the Efreet, most of the Pale Rider project series, Gundam Pixy, and a whole bunch of IBO Gundam frames from Urdr Hunt. And plenty more, but I think anything else starts to stretch the limits of shit people would actually care about.Also shoutout to Casval's Gundam but that's just a color swap.
>>94739188Giganti, my love.
>>94735071Their display already shows that you can do that.
What is the difference in size for the hexes in the game vs hexes for 1/144th scale gundam? Tempted to 3dprint a bunch of hexes so some friends can play using gundam kits we already have and get around the inevitable scalping
>>94739537The figures shown are 2 inch and 1/144 gunpla are around 3,5 inch.
>>94739489Imagine building an army for a game using PG models.
>>94739561And roughly what are the dimensions for the hexes themselves?
>>94738641>Death to RiddheNow now, we can't blame Maracas, Miranda was just one of dozens of Ple to suffer such misfortune of their birth...
>>94739689Figure it out yourself with your favourite version of Paint and a ruler.
>>94739616You are baby-man, watch this>3D prints a 1/12 Gundam
>>94739825There was a nigga who built a 1/2 Zeta Gundam.
>>94739730While ZZ eventually became a better written sho than Z Gundam (somehow), I fealt Ple always had a very truncated story. As if there was writing issues about killing the MC's sister.
>>94739935Z seems to have been plagued by all involved writers being allowed to impress their distinct vision on parts of the show.
>>94738369Duel Gundam with Assault Shroud, the V2, and the Virtue for my Gundam line-upThree Leos (various load outs) for my Grunt line-up
>>94733222>tripsReal Dozle hours up in this bitch.
>>94734364Sounds like you want to play Mechastellar.
>>94738518>That's rich considering you are almost certainly defending Games Workshop paypiggism...You don't know anything about me. I hate GW.
I know he'll never make it in but I'm praying he does.
>>94740335The only thing better would be special variants of that time they grabbed them some rockets to get into space.
>>94729475my immediate reaction was hype, but I just realized how many primarily white mobile suits there are. That's gonna be so annoying to paint.
>>94740439You know you can paint them whatever color you want, right?
Good thing is I’ll be able to get heavyarms pretty early; however I will probably never get leopard or airmaster.I will wait for the eventual IBO expansion so I can have my man rodis, Gusion and Flauros
>>94739935>>94739956Well personally I'm a Dub Baby, so I've never had much attachment to the original UC run, but it does make use of very 70's speculative science fiction.>>94740244>You don't know anything about me. I hate GW.Then you probably know that Bandai is league ahead of them when it comes to plastic models, right?
>>94738369Heavyarms, Leopard Gundam and Flauros.I like idea of reaching out to touch someone
>>94740439>not painting your grandpa Titans colors since Titans MK2 feels like a long shot
>>94740439If you can find a good white rattlecan primer or own an airbrush it's basically easymode.
>>94738369Astray Noir, Vidar and Crossbones. Swords and pistol is a fun combination
>>94738369Zaku II.Leo.Tieren.GRUNT. SUIT. SUPREMACY.
>>94738369>Char Zaku (painted in crimson Johnny Ridden colors)>Gouf Custom>BIG ZAM
>>94740439Simply make them all Char's ver.
>>94740578Nta but these runners look simple af and the princing seems to be $10 per model. That sounds GW crap to me
>>94734982Lol, what do you think I'm going to use these minis for? My Battletech mapsheets might be too small for these bases, though, might need to change my setupI'll also see if I can get a group together for Jovian Chronicles, but mostly it will be Lancer>>94736925>>94736932More of a wargame/RPG hybrid, but yeah. It started as a Mekton supplement with a Char Aznable clone and everything
>>94740439Pic related if you don't have an airbrush will do the trick. For airbrushing, I find that using a white ink is incredibly handy.
How long before this one shows up?
No victory or shokew no buy
>>94740924>Nta but these runners look simple af and the princing seems to be $10 per model. That sounds GW crap to meIt's usually around $15 USD, but understand you are getting an articulated 5 inch figure, one that SNAPFITS right off the runners.Rouge Hobbies here is one of those "Professional GW Cocksuckers" who use to work for GW, and she is clearly impressed with what a bog standard High Grade gets you:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaoNMYR4z7g>>94740955ONCE THE (PLAMO) WAIFUS ARE MASS PRODUCED...
>>94741104>understand you are getting an articulated 5 inch figureI'm talking about the wargame no the HGs or RGs, those tend to be good. The wargame is the one with a single simple runner and so far from the starter packs look like a single mini is going to be almost $10
>>94733567Just do that, then? All you'd need is their rules, you can skip buying models and just scale it up. Play on the floor if you need a bigger map, the action bases already come in hexagonal form. Doesn't seem like an issue to me.
>>94741104How about mass reproduce with them?
>>94733637Gaming hobbies are expensive enough that there's normally not a lot of bleedover between trading card collectors and tabletop wargamers, but gunpla is also dirt cheap for as much plastic as you get. This could end up being cheap enough to let people ignore that standard.
>>94741169Well, when a man and a plastic injector machine love each other very much...
>>94741134>The wargame is the one with a single simple runner and so far from the starter packs look like a single mini is going to be almost $10I highly doubt it's JUST the Mini, that's the price point for 30mm and other Gunpla accessory bags, and they're two to three runners.>>94741169>How about mass reproduce with them?THE FEDERATION IS FINISHED!
>>94733731>It looks like what you'd get if you redesigned the RX78 with the same mechanical art style as the series main suit or the Eva units, though, and then of course painted it red and slapped on some Elmeth funnelsYou won't believe who's the faggot writing and who's designing the suits.
>>94741104is she trans?
Wake me up when there's a mini for the RB-79
>>94733841>uh you don't actually want to buy that cool thing, you're being MANipulated by the MAN, by kkkapitalism... you're being brainwashed by big robot!
>>94741773More like a classic Futanari.
>>94729475Will Bandai abandon this again?
>>94741104The figures we get for the game here are simplistic and not articulated at all. Also just 2 instead of 5 inch
>>94742793Bandai's gotten pretty good at not abandoning things. By all means everyone thought each of their card games would be dead and gone by now but they're all still getting supported. They're even still making shit for their original Dragon Ball Super TCG even after a hard reboot.
>>94732006based the-o appreciator
>>94740955Clearly, this is meant to be a serious board game.
>>94738369The O, Quebley, Psycho Gundam (MK1 or 2)
>>94741819ANON, WAKE UP!!!theres already mini for the ball look>>94731725
Yeah because the 60 year old BattleTech boomers are just all weebs who just don't know it and Bandai got decades of combined arms and fuckloads of shitty lore books ready to go.
>>94743411>BattleTech boomers are just all weebs who just don't know itYes? I mean they got tricked into playing an anime fangame for decades because they thought it's cool and okay so long as it has ten gorillion years of lore.If you took MSG and instead made it the 100 year war told over seventeen crappy novels they'd go apeshit over it.
>>94740942>>94740648NTA, but personally my problem with white has always been paint issues. White paints have a consistency that won't behave and white primer comes out chalky or fuzzy (when other colors don't). I'm open to suggestions.
>>94743530>he shuns the Free Company of Saint George novels
>>94741134Looks like the 30$ bundle most likely gets you a starter deck for the card game in top of the 3 minis so most likely they're gonna be priced even lower than 10$ a piece.
>>94743553From experience painting Imperial Stormtroopers for Star Wars Legion, the solution is to prime in a mid-light grey, then work up even lighter greys atop it with only the fine highlights being 'actual' white. It can be time-consuming, however, which is why I greatly enjoy the slapchop method (prime black, heavy drybrush grey, light drybrush white, apply contrast/speed paints).
>>94743992$35 bundle*And starter packs are usually cheaper than buying stuff separately
>>94740768Frankly I'd rather paint it pink and give it to Sayla.
>>94732392They did a Full Mechanics Aerial. I think it sold well?
>>94740955>>94741104>>94741421>>9474324230 Minutes Label crossover when
>>94743242She's in Gundam Breaker so I'd assume that she would be part of any Build Fighters set.
>>94743321>Two balls on the same baseI chuckled
>>94744981sex
>>94744981There are way too many tentacle-themed UC suits for this to be a good idea.
>>94745019I'm definitely running a hambrabi against any girl suit I can. I wonder how they'll handle transforming suits.
>>94740955I will no field any Balls.Instead, I will field Evil Haro with two guns.
>>94740439ENTER
>>94745030Probably different models for each form. We've actually seen the Rising Freedom from the Seed movie in both forms already and they look pretty different.
>>94745056If this series becomes a hit we may someday get the Psycho Haro
>wing zero custom/EW is inGod I hope we also get the base form Unicorn without the full armor bits.
>>94747832Oh and Victory too, V2 specifically. And Kampfer.
fuck it, we doing a general>>94748242>>94748242>>94748242
