Haman Karn Edition>Previous Thread>>94729475>What is Gundam Assemble?An upcoming hex-based miniature wargame from Bandai. Little is currently known beyond that>Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTd6T-mUZHI >Official websiitehttps://global.bandai-hobby.net/en-us/site/gundam-assemble/>Thread QuestionWhat Mobile Suit do you really want to see get a miniature?
These things are going to be in blind boxes and I'm going to buy 50 of them trying to get the Nobel Gundam and end up with 50 Age-1 Spallows
>>94748242Please be good and not selling your kidney tier price range
>>94748430I think it'll be reasonably priced. But all the kits you want will be P-Bandai only
>skeptical initially>sleep>full throw wallet at it modeHow did they get me? I’m going to buy that stupid card game for an early model.
>>94748542I'm a big Gundam fan and have a bunch of Gundam kits. But there are two things that often hold me back from buying more kits.>spaceSpace: Even just a HG can take up a decent amount of shelf space if you want to pose it dynamically. And cool MGs can take up half a shelf by themselves>timeEver since I got into Warhammer and learned how to paint, I've felt like an unpainted kit, even a quite nice unpainted kit like a modern Gundam, is unfinished. But painting a full Gundam kit takes a long ass time. Even a simple HG would dominate a big part of my limited hobby time. So this game and the model range for it removes the only two obstacles to me having tons and tons of Gundams.
>>94748242wonder how Bandai will handle paint for these gunpla since i don't think that something you do with previous Gunpla versions
>>94748479>But all the kits you want will be P-Bandai onlyThis sent a shiver down my spine. I just want to play my qub....
>>94748542>I’m going to buy that stupid card game for an early model.Wait to see whats in the starter set for assemble you might get models in double.
>>94748590>i don't think that something you do with previous Gunpla versionsDepends on what you what from the gunpla some do paint them.
>>94748590Painting has always been advertised but optional with gunpla, especially modern kits. Pics on the box are often painted and manuals come with color mixing guides.
Sex with the zaku. Marriage with the dom.
>>94748310They could do it battletech style and just do waves of units and occasional 30$ boxes of 4-6 dudes>>94748571yah I hope they get a wide release of suits since the backlog is so big.>>94748590Probably push like their gundam markers or something as the entry point
>>94748242>TQI'd love to see them take advantage of the scale to have bigger mobile suits/armor like the Neo Zeong, Braw Bro, Big Zamn etc. I get why most of the biggest suits don't have HGs, but static kits in a smaller scale would make sense.Chinks and STLs will be able to hook us all up in the end.
I just want Deathscythe Hell. That's all I know.
>>94748242Hygogg
>>94748767We know they're doing the Archangel. If ships are in, Mobile Armors seem guaranteedI want a Shamblo so bad...
Nether Gundam or riot!
>general for an upcoming game that little is known about
>>94748767Neo Zeong has a pretty nice looking SD kit with a big ol' Sinanju head, if that's your thing.
>>94748310>These things are going to be in blind boxesBlind boxes are shit tier and only attract shit tier "collectors" and make for a shit tier game community. If this turns out to be a blind pack driven game then Bandai can shove it right up their puckered yellow assholes.
The card game website has pages up for each starter deck now (and the first booster box), including a section that lists which series each product represents. The mini bundle versions will probably have the same representation. So bad news for any wider Cosmic Era fans, because ST04 only reps the original SEED series. You'll have to wait for your Astray frames, your Destinies, and your Strike Noirs.
>>94749104They've already shown off the Rising Freedom, the Rising Freedom in flight mode, and the Mighty Freedom
>>94749223Yeah but those likely won't come until the full release, not the early bundles when the card game releases in July.
>>94749273>Yeah but those likely won't come until the full release, not the early bundles when the card game releases in July.those aren't "proper" Assemble minis, they are the model kits but they're coming on round bases instead of proper Assemble hex bases
>>94748310>>94749005Doubt they are blind box. Since they need to be assembled, each mini has it's own runner and the larger units have multiple bases, each is likely either individually packaged as a solo mini or released as part of a series based assortment. Each special edition comes with 3 minis and costs ~$23 more than the regular edition starters. That points to them pricing each mini about $8, but several of the showcased minis obviously require more than one runner. FA Unicorn isn't getting priced the same in box a a Kapool.
>>94749298They're specifically called "Gundam Assemble Starter Set", they link to the Gundam Assemble Bandai Hobby page, and they have a disclaimer that>Images displayed may differ from the final product.Chances are the photos show prototype models from before they settled on actual rules for Assemble (if they even HAVE actual rules hammered out yet).
>>94749313Could do em like battletech where you can buy a box with specific theme (big) (grunt) (tank) and price accordingly.
>>94749313Maybe they'll price the Kapool a bit higher than average by telling you it's a 2-in-1 and that you can use it as a Capule.
>>94749313There's definitely going to be blind boxes, but also separate releases. Like, there will be a blind box series that has a Dom in it, but there will also be a special Black Tri-Stars set that has three Doms in unique poses. Multi-base kits like the FA Unicorn and the Archangel will be released separately.
>>94749376There's like a blind box chibi gundam figure I always see in stores, theyre always only a few bucks so I could see that they make something comparable. Maybe a card pack sized hanging sprue next to the gunpla cash register?
>>94749376Blind box works well with prepainted/preassembled figures not so well when each needs to be individually assembled and painted. >>94749529Those are preassembled and prepainted which allows them to mix in variants with all the normal versions.
>>94749376>there will also be a special Black Tri-Stars set that has three Doms in unique poses.There had better be.
I just want a grunt squad of Jegans to dab on filthy Zeeks
>>94748242>tqGive me Nightingale and Hi-Nu, and I'm all set.
>>94748242>TQI want the Turns, the S1 Gundam 00 Gundams and Grunt, and the Leo in all its variant glory.
>>94749965Leo fans, much like their favorite MS, are known to explode at the slightest provocation.
There is a notable lack of Zeta era suits
>>94750688No one likes any mobile suits from Zeta
>>94750790Why would someone just go on the Internet and tell lies like that?
>TQIf the system supports larger battles I want plenty of various GMs and Zakus to fill out most of my list and support a few cool units.If it's something like 4v4 then for starters I'd like the V2, Unicorn base form and the Kampfer. I'll around that out with my personal favorite that's already confirmed: Wing Zero Custom.Wild pick: Magnat Gundam.
>>94750213>Leo fans, much like their favorite MS, are known to explode at the slightest provocation.YOU WANNA GO MATE?!
>zero posing or customization options zzzzzzzzzzz
>>94752150Every model seems to have both a shooting and melee pose, and for suits with multiple weapons, you can swap them out.
>>94752153wasnt in the promo image that i saw, have they released more?in the preview on the website all they show is a single fixed pose. no beam sabers option, none of the other mor exotic weapons the gundam gets, no other poses, nothing.it looks like a fucking cracker jack box toy
>>94752166I'm asking this respectfully, have you never played a miniature wargame before? 40k, etc?They're all exactly like this.The fact that they come unpainted and you're expected to paint them yourself is also a customization option.
>>94752166meanwhile a GW mech kit of roughly similar sizehow the hell is gundam getting beat out by GW on sprue technology and customization? thats their whole shtick
>>94752182you just got btfo>>94752191
>>94752195No, you fell for bait. He posted a Crisis Suit sprue, which is about twice the size of a regular 40k model and can equip four weapons simultaneously from a pool of about nine.Here's an actual fair comparison, a Cadian Shock troop five-pack.
>>94752191>>94752166>warhammer crisis suit: 360 degree ball joint head, waist, shoulders, hips, and ankles, weapons interchangable between either arm or backpack mount, multiple heads, more weapon options then can even fit on the model at once, also support sustems like radar and scanners, optional shoulder armor, and optional flight stand>gundam: you stick the front half to the back halfsad. these could have been mini gunpla kits
>>94752206that's the old Spruce for that kit anon here the new one
>>94752206Oh, and I forgot to mention that Crisis Suit sprue is meant to build three Crisis Suits and six gun drones, just to make sure no one's confused.
>>94752206thats not a mech. a crisis suit is a mech. why the hell are you comparing some flesh and cloth infantryman to a gundam? a crisis suit to a gundam is almost a 1 to 1 comparison, the crisis suits were even directly inspired by gundam according to the original designers. thats also not even the current cadian sprue, thats a sprue from 20 years ago. and you know what? it still has more fucking customization than the gundam assemble kits. flat joint waists that can rotate, flat joint arms, ball joint heads, multiple special weapons and backpacks and a variety of heads as well as arms in utility poses like holding what looks like a grenade, and accessories like canteens. even with your shitty, unrelated comparison the gundam kits still get trounced
>>94752237>thats not a mech. a crisis suit is a mech. why the hell are you comparing some flesh and cloth infantryman to a gundam?That's a semantical comparison and has no relevance here. They're both, ultimately, plastic army men. Just because the fluff is different doesn't magically make what they are anything else.
>>94752222the kit is split up into 3 sprues each with a single crisis suit. what you see in that image is one crisis suit and its two accompanying drones.
>>94748978>The hype train has no brakes.
>they have to deflect with imperial guardsmen because the gundam cant stand up to a crisis suitvery sad
>>94752264Isn't this Gundam game on a scale different than 28mm anyway?Wouldn't Battletech models be a better comparison than GW stuff
>>94752191>>94752195Ha ha, NO.That's one of THREE sprues you get in the XV8 Crisis Battlesuit Team, a box that is $84 USD right now on GW website.>>94752217They've had those, Gundam Artifact as resin kits, the Bandai Shokugan Gundam UN Universal Unit kits as full color separated "Candy Toy" kits...
>>94748242Zaku mariner, ball K-type, and GM cannon by beloveds
>>94749376The problem with blind box is that those kinds of game trade on the collectible aspect over actual gameplay. That means you need rarity tiers and all the good and popular stuff will be hard to get. People don't want to wade through a pile of expensive bullshit to get the one thing they actually want. Battletech tried this with MechWarrior Dark Age and it almost killed the game. This is going to go especially hard for GA, since not are you totally in the dark about what you're buying, but you have to then spend time and money building and painting the damn things. It just feels bad. >inb4 CCGsCard games get around it by offering a whole range of stuff in one pack, with at least one of them being good. With models, you're paying that money to get one thing, and unlike shit cards, that one thing takes up appreciable space and isn't visually hidden in a deck.If they do blind boxes, it can't be the main way of getting models.
>>94752309>$84 USD
>>94752217>gundam: you stick the front half to the back halfThat's how most GW models are trending nowadays. Easier assembly for little billy and easier control of mold lines for the CAD team. 40k has been bitching about monopose for a while. It's arguably not really a problem for the Gundam game since it looks to be really small unit count. You're just not going to have multiple units that look identical on your side to give that copy-paste illusion.
>>94752525That and, if this game IS cross compatible with 1/144th scale Gunpla, you really aren't hurting for modeling options.
I wonder what the team limits will be. Im hoping i can run a full Squad of Schizo Suits. Like the Blue Destiny, Pale Rider, Delta Plus, that kinda shit.
>>94752525>Easier assembly for little billy and easier control of mold lines for the CAD teamGW is trying I can say, but their sprues and mold lines are bad, if not worse than before. Putting the injection point on a round surface of an Intercessor knee pad, or injection points on hard to clean places especially when their models are mostly monoposeGW needs to learn from Bandai, cleaner sprues and injection points please and not pack everything like a Hong Kong apartment
>a warhammer vehicle is equivalent to the standard soldier for this other game just because they're both robotsBait or mental retardation, call it. This is a closer comparison, since they're presumably both hero models. Both monopose too
>TQGM VARIANTS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE!
>>94752237>thats not a mech. a crisis suit is a mech. why the hell are you comparing some flesh and cloth infantryman to a gundam?Because a single soldier in a human scale minis game is roughly equivalent to a single mecha in a mecha scale minis game. If you want something in GA that is likely equivalent to a Crisis suit you are likely looking at something like the 2 base FA Unicorn or the 3 base Archangel. In future, when people compare 40k to GA they are going to be comparing how much 5 basic Space marines cost compared to 5 Zaku IIs or how much a Space marine captain costs compared to a full armor Gundam.What would it say about each game if GAs Mobile Suit Gundam Federation starter kit came with ~12 minis but cost ~$100 compared to a 40k combat patrol costing ~$170 for 12 minis.
>>94752309and these Gundam models are selling in boxes of 3 for $35 that also include cards for the CCG; it doesn't seem to be clear exactly how many but some reports are saying a whole starter deck. Given that those are supposed to retail between $12-15, we can extrapolate a sub-$10 model cost and probably less when retailer discounts are factored in. A better 40K comparison would be the Space Marine Heroes blindboxed models which are very similar in build and parts count. Not that it really matters, because 90% of the people bringing up 40K in this thread (and every non-40K miniatures thread) are shitposters anyway.All that being said, did we really need a "general" thread for a game that's six months from launch about which we know so little?
>>94753424it just an excuse to have gundam thread on /tg/ just like the Star Wars general and Star trek generals
>>94753424>and these Gundam models are selling in boxes of 3 for $35 that also include cards for the CCG; it doesn't seem to be clear exactly how many but some reports are saying a whole starter deck.Their own website is saying $34.99 for the special edition TCG starter decks with 3 minis versus the standard edition TCG starter decks costing $11.99. That shows that they are pricing the minis at roughly $7~$8 each.>Not that it really matters, because 90% of the people bringing up 40K in this thread (and every non-40K miniatures thread) are shitposters anyway.40k is being brought up in this thread less for shit posting and more because it is the closest comparable product.>All that being said, did we really need a "general" thread for a game that's six months from launch about which we know so little?A "General" was not really needed, but a thread discussing a newly announced product/game is good to have.
>>94748242I think having a general for a game that launches in 7 months will lead to burnout.
>>94748571This. I can easily see filling an entire Deltof cabinet with these just for display purposes.Hell, it looks like the bases clip together like Action Bases, so might be able to 3d print some custom shelves where you clip the bases together and then clip the bases to the wall.
>>94748242>TQLauncher Strike and Sword Strike GundamCrossbonesAstray Red FrameBut what I really want is for this to do well enough it gets expanded into a full Super Robot Wars game with units from all sorts of series.
>>94753749Same. Bandai's own kits for Armored Core, SRW, Macross etc. are already pretty good. If they had a collab set or two I'd be very happy.
>>94753835I want a full Divine Crusaders force of Lions/Guarlions led by a Valsion
>>94753749>>94753835I'd bet that is in the long term plan once the base game of Assemble is established and successful. After a year or two, put out Getter, Mazinger and other sets focused around Super Robots. They can then have spin off games for Godzilla/Kaiju/Ultraman and Kamen Rider.
>>94753532Wouldn't the closest comparable product be Battletech?
>>94754343Honestly we won't know closest comparable product until we get more details regarding models per side, table size, and gameplay. It might be 40k, it might be Battletech, it might be Marvel Crisis Protocol, it might be Warhammer Underworlds.
>>94754343Not necessarily. While unpainted, Battletech minis come preassembled which increases production and packaging costs. GA units are going to come unassembled on runners much like 40k minis. With the average GA mini being supposedly 2in/5cm in height, which is similar to the 1.75in~2.25in height of 40k space marines, we have a pretty decent reference point for size and price per mini.
>>94752182Those are definitely alternate sculpts. Not build options
>>94748571>I'm a big Gundam fan and have a bunch of Gundam kits. But there are two things that often hold me back from buying more kits.For you and everyone saying they want stuff in Battletech scale: Bandai did massive releases of stuff in nominal 1:400 scale. Which has had not one, but two official wargames already written for it (Gundam Senki and 1:400 Collection Tactics). Tactics is crossover and kind of bad, Senki is OYW-onry and not quite as bad. Either way the minis fit on standard 33mm hexes and work great on BT and Crimson Skies boards.
>>94752957Not to mention this is a starter kit model that is meant to introduce TCG noobs to the hobby. Expect more customization in the full standalone kit.
>>94755753>Expect more customization in the full standalone kit.There is literally no reason to expect more customization in the standalone kit.
>>94755925There's no reason not to expect things like different weapons loadouts. Beam sprays or hyper bazookas for gm, etc.
>>94755957There's very good reason to expect that the kits won't be customizableReason the first!>>94752166they literally posted an image of the sprue. No options.Reason the second!>>94752182We have pictures of two GMs that are obviously two different kits. Not the same kit with an arm swapped for a different weapon.
>>94748242I so badly want to be excited for this. It ticks so many boxes for me: Gundam, not limited to OYW, low part count models, hex board, d10's. But I'm struggling because I know that, even if it's really good and fun, people will play it for a week and then go back to whatever GW has vomited up for them.
>>94756012The two GMs are two different kits.The two Char Zakus are the same kit with two different weapons.We've seen multiple suits with both a melee pose and a shooting pose.It goes to reason that most suits will come in two different poses, and those with weapon swaps get it. Whether or not all of that comes in the same purchase is still a mystery. Probably not, but who knows.
>>94756766Be the change you want. Also despite the memeing retards, the game will likely be fairly cheap, which means it's easy to con people into at least trying it. When in doubt, just play with 1/144 scale to really get their attention
>>94756814>When in doubt, just play with 1/144 scale to really get their attentionI mean I was already pondering a Gunpla game using the Bandai Action Base 4/5 and 30 MM Custom Base Scene hexes for a Map...
How much of the customization options for crisis suits are even still valid in warhammer 40K?
>>94756813>The two Char Zakus are the same kit with two different weapons.They are not. You can't see it directly because the bazooka arm is in the way, but the left leg has to be positioned differently in that model to get that pose.And besides, "Char's" Zaku is at least outwardly just a standard Commander-type Zaku with a custom paint job, so it's an extremely likely candidate for multiple sculpts.
>>94756814I might buy a model or two just for fun, but I'm over banging my head against a wall trying to convince people to play good games.
>>94748242Death Army and all forms of the Devil Gundam for sure. I hate Hobby Lobby for guaranteeing that we'll never get a new Devil Gundam kit.
>>94757340wut? Why does Bamco give a flying fuck about Hobby Lobby?
>>94757369They're a not-insignificant seller of gundam models and they're a bunch of ultra-religious loonies.
>>94756766My FLGS owner has already stated he's ordering it due to wanting the models for himself, so I suspect it'll have a decent local scene for me at least, split between the game store and the anime store.
>>94757672When I worked at a FLGS around 2020 we would constantly get requests for anything gundam related. We didnt stock it though since working with bluefin was a pain in the ass and wasnt worth stocking for the margins. If this bridges that gap, it could be pretty solid.
>>94757121nta I'm getting into hyper-analysis here but it's the same pose, one leg is slightly pushed forward. You can see his toes on one foot are slightly up in the air on the round base. It's the exact same pose. His left arm, torso, everything but the gun arm is the exact pose and his leg's been put on slightly more forward.
>>94757916Those are 100% different poses. Not sure what you're smokin
>>94757957It looks like the exact same pose other than the right arm. What? How is it different?
>>94758139The one on the right is leaning forward my guy. Left is resting back on the right foot. Right is leaning forward on the left foot. Seems like a lot of hopium.
>>94758168I'm not seeing what you're seeing. They're both in the exact same pose.Even if you're some kind of silhouette master and I'm wrong, it seems insane that they would make two separate molds that are, at best, 1% different.
>>94757340>I hate Hobby Lobby for guaranteeing that we'll never get a new Devil Gundam kit.I mean they could just use the Dark Gundam name again, in fact I'm pretty sure they usually still use the Dark Gundam name for Devil Gundam in English speaking countries like they do with Burning/God Gundam
It sucks that the models seem to be very monopose. It always annoys me when companies sculpt some dynamic action pose because it looks cool, but has to be monopose to work which means everybody has the exact same pose and it cheapens it. Some flying kick looks awesome until there's 2 of them on the table and 10 of them in the lgs at once.I'm thinly open to the possibility that pose-ability might trend upwards over time, especially if the game lives long enough to incorporate fan feedback (these games tend to have 18-24 month lead times). But even hoping the game lives that long in the first place is more optimism than I have in me, for now. Bandai may be heavily reusing sculpts they already had, and just scaling them down and remixing them, which could reduce production time a bit.>>94752309That still maths out to $7-8 per Assemble model vs crisis suits being $28 apiece. Assuming the tcg bundle is representative of release pricing.
>>94758370>That still maths out to $7-8 per Assemble model vs crisis suits being $28 apiece. Assuming the tcg bundle is representative of release pricing.Exactly, at the Crisis Suit price point, Bandai can totally go full Universal Unit with color separation and ARTICULATION!
>>94748242>What Mobile Suit do you really want to see get a miniature?Crossbone X-1Kämpfer Union Flag CustomBrave [Commander Test Type]Exia RepairZetaDynamesKshatriyaWing Fenice
>>94758800>What Mobile Suit do you really want to see get a miniature?The O Quebley Psycho mki/ii Zeta Mkii Asshimar Hyakushiki (Rick)Doms/DiazShenlong/Altron >the entire cast of G Gundam Shining God Master DevilDragon Nobel Maxter Rose Bolt Speigel >I'm not going to name all of them. You get the idea
>>94758800some of the weirder Turn Ɐ would be cool to see but that's never going to happen outside of the Sumo and the Turn Ɐ itself
>>94758370>It always annoys me when companies sculpt some dynamic action pose because it looks cool, but has to be monopose to work which means everybody has the exact same pose and it cheapens it.I don't think they intend for you to field multiple Wing Zero Customs
>>94758917they literally already showed the Kapool and the Borjarnon.
>>94759039those are UC design anon, I mean Syd Mead stuff like Walking Dome or the FLAT.stuff like that doesn't seem likely to be at the top of the list for inclusion into this game
>>94759291If they don't do blind packs, I'd expect most releases to be done in sets based on factions. The Wodom and the FLAT would likely appear in a Dianna Counter set.
>>94758370You can always get the Artifact kits which are the same size. Those have a wee bit of articulation.
>>94748242>TQThat's a long list.- MK.2- Asshimar- Kampfer- NT-1 "Alex"- Tristan- Exia- GX series (X, X Divider and Double X)- Leopard- Heavyarms- Basically all the OZ Grunts- Impulse in various flavors- Sword and Buster Strike- Duel Assault Shroud- Strike Noir- GINN- Windham- Dagger and Strike Dagger- GM III- Ground Gundam- Gouf Custom- Efreet- Zakus and Goufs from Seed Destiny- JessaI could go on and on.>>94758370The models beig monopose and non-fiddly is a huge selling point for me. I grew up with monopose models, so that doesn't bother me at all as long as the models look cool.
why are people pushing the blindpack meme
>>94759769Bandai has been notorious for blond boxes and locking the good shit behind pbandai. Trying to build a usable force you like with blind boxes sucks donkey dick. All thr pbandai stuff drives the local shops crazy cause they dont get the hit product and are stuck with stock of the normal stuff.
>>94759769I think people are just used to Japan's gacha addiction and expecting it to rear its ugly head. It'd be a death knell for American release but Bandai is not always smart about these things.
>>94759769There is next to no information out about the game, so all people have to talk about is unfounded speculation. "Everything will probably be great" doesn't generate as much engagement as doomer postings and saying "everything will probably be awful."
>>94749370Nah, they'll just double price it to screw over Turn A fans that little bit more>26 years>Still no Turn A HG kits beyond the Turn A itself
>series-based pricingthis would be the most impressively capricious thing I've ever seen
>>94760390I’m all for seed chuds paying more for their shit taste.
>>94759769They've all rolled the waifu gatcha, I guess?
>>94749223seeing a Kapool is great but i was hoping this would be the kind of game where you can have dozens of squads of zakus
>>94762383Outside of major battles that wouldn't be lore accurate. Mobile suits are equivalent to fighter jets, so a dozen squads of zakus would be a major resource investment, even early in the war when Zeon still had control of a third of the Earth.
>>94762383I think the point of the Kapool being shown off was to show that they were planning to include even lesser known units and not just the big names. The Zaku II is likely to get a fair number of variants so you might get your opportunity to have an army of Zaku chasing after the White Base.
>>94761490Shit series aside it had some good mech designs.
>>94758637At the Crisis Suit price point you can just buy High Grades.
>>94760370Reminder that they made a Kapool variant and a Wodom variant for Build Divers and Re:Rise respectively, but never used those runners for the originals.
>>94760390ZZ, F91 and Victory chads laughing to the bank
>>94762738The Wodom Pod was like half the size of the Wodom
>>94759769Because people love to doompost and stir up shit for no reason.I think it's far more likely we'll see three to four models boxes with some of the bigger stuff like the Archangel being single model releases. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a "Heroes of White Base" box that has the RX-78-2, Guncannon and Guntank together. Likewise there will probably be a Zeon grunt pack of some sort with two different Zaku IIs and maybe a Zaku I. This feels like the more logical way to do it. Possibly even two model packs for big stuff like having the Unicorn and Sinanju we've seen thus far packed together in some sort of vs. pack.
I saw a guy on Youtube saying that Bandai had said the kits were going to be sold in 3 packs. Anybody got a clue if that's legit?
>>94763092The TCG starter set bundles will each include 3 kits, but beyond that we don't know yet.
>>94763074A Black Tri-Stars Dom 3 pack is a given considering how much Japan loves those spuds. Having 3 sculpts of the Dom would be nice.
So the card game beta went up like six months before the actual release.Is this gonna be the same shit, where the minis that come in the tcg starter decks in july are gonna be six months before the full game comes out?
>>94763265That would be a sort of obvious set. I can see an Aces of Zeon set with Char, Ral and someone else in there.The only time I could maybe see a box with more than that would be if they did an Operation Meteor box with the five Gundams in it. Or maybe they split them into different set. One with Sandrock and some of the grunts from the Macanac Corp or whatever they're called.I just want the Talgeese to come with an alternate head for the Talgeese 2. Always preferred the spiked crest and the sweet blue color scheme.Hell, they could do an evolution of the Lightning Count type thing. Talgeese for Zechs, Epyon for Milliardo and the Talgeese III for Peacekeeper Wind.>>94763351Probably not. I imagine this will come out a month or so after those bubdles are available. It's way easier to do a beta edition of a TCG than it is a miniatures game.
>>94759719>- GX series (X, X Divider and Double X)>- LeopardMy nigga
>>94764532>That would be a sort of obvious set. I can see an Aces of Zeon set with Char, Ral and someone else in there.Garma. Chars best friend he would never betray
>>94764532>One with Sandrock and some of the grunts from the Macanac Corp or whatever they're called.Since the Leo is one of the most popular grunt suits I kinda expect the Wing TCG starter bundle to come with the Maganac, so they can sell Leos individually.
>>94764532>I can see an Aces of Zeon set with Char, Ral and someone else in there.Norris Packard
>>94764933I'd expect Norris' Gouf Custom to be part of an 08th MS team "Apsaras Hunt" scenario set.
>>94762738Don't remind me. And they where designed so you couldn't convert them into the originals too.>>94763070It's half the size of the pod itself, in the anime that dime is May's mobile doll gamer room.Anything to screw over Turn A fans.
>>94764532>I can see an Aces of Zeon set with Char, Ral and someone else in thereShin Matsunaga maybe?
>>94764532>I can see an Aces of Zeon set with Char, Ral and someone else in there.I mean, the obvious choice is Johnny Ridden.
>>94759769>why are people pushing the blindpack memeBecause Bandai has already done it in the past with their wargames. Several times, even restricting things down to just Gundam games. That said, even on the game that was flat-out named after a gacha series they still had some fixed starter boxes, and all the ship kits came with a team of three MS.
>>94764532>everyone answering with mobile suitsElmeth and Big Zam are the most iconic suits not piloted by Char.
I'm too high on hopium. Need to drink some vodka and remind myself of the bitterness of the world so I'm not crushed if the rules come out and they're atrocious.
>>94765617what other wargames has Bandai made?
>>94748978>nooo we needed the space for another 40k threadfack off
>>94748590>i don't think that something you do with previous Gunpla versionsHow to tell us you've never built a gunpla.
>>94764805X is a fucking gem. Give me the grunts and a Virsago as well and I'll be set for fucking life.>>94764870I can see Leo's coming in a pack together. Or like a Soldiers of OZ set with a Leo, Ares and maybe whatever the hovertank one was.>>94764933Good pick. Char's Gelgoog, Ral's Gouf and Norris' Gouf Custom could be a dope set. Although that is two Goufs.>>94764824Did Garma even pilot a mobile suit? Been forever since I watched 0079.>>94765370Gonna be real with you, I don't know who that is.>>94766064I imagine stuff as big as mobile armors will be single models boxes since they'll likely be 2 hexes large. Or maybe sold in two packs together.
>>94766719>Gonna be real with you, I don't know who that is.Shin Matsunaga, The White Wolf Of Solomon from MSV and Evolve. They could also do Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning also from MSV and MSV-R.
>>94766856Not him, but I kinda got the feeling that it would be M'Quve and the Gyan for that theoretical ace box.
>>94766644tbf there's an amount of japanese social media users reacting with "eeeh, it has to be painted?" with even the occasional "but who could paint such small models...", which is really just emblematic of how much of a new development this is. The artifact painters are all going nuts over it but it's a small part of a big scene. Simply put, it's developing.>>94764933>>94766719Norris is big, but he's not that big. It'd be Mquve first for a 0079 themed collection, I think. The japanese fanbase seem to think of him as that old guy with a cool fight scene over the absolute glazing the western fanbase does. He's not getting in over Gato, though I feel like the OVAs would have their own theming. >>94765370>>94766856I think the MSV guys would get their own set. Real type decals included.
>>94766856Ah. Yeah, I'm not familiar with MSV stuff. Seen some of the suits from it, but that's about all.>>94766875M'Quve! I knew there was someone from 79 I was forgetting. I could see Char, M'Quve and Ral in a pack together.>>94767154>Norris is big, but he's not that big. It'd be Mquve first for a 0079 themed collection, I think.That's fair. Plus, Norris would probably work best in some 08th MS Team themed set. I'd love if we got a Gouf Flight Type in this.
>>94766875>GyanI would buy this in a heartbeat.
>>94766719In the show Garma only pilots a plane, but there is a decently popular MSV design of his custom zaku and since we seem to be getting white dingo suits, I think it is possible we get that too.
this is making me want to finally learn battletech (since I know the ruleset will be insanely abstracted and wont support the infinite milsim autism I crave)
>>94766085They've had a steady trickle of official tabletop stuff, albeit nowhere near the volume of their computer wargames output.The easiest to get ahold of right now is 1:400 Collection Tactical Combat (which is a port of the Super Robot Wars/SD Gundam Generation rules to tabletop). Pic related. There's a solid translation and play group on Facebook with most of the unit stats and rules done. In addition, there are quite a few hex-and-chit games, a Strategy of Gundam game with a board very similar to the new one that came out around 2001 (also gacha), Gundam Senki (technically licensed but with heavy involvement from Bandai and published by them, uses the Collection gacha minis). They've done minis games for other properties too, like Dougram, Vifam, and VOTOMs. A few of the hex-and-chits were translated by /tg/, and the Dougram boardgames got small translated releases in the US in the 1980s
>>94767819It was also in the Gihren's Greed series too.
>>94768471>Zaku II (Cracker)Question- are there even any Zeon pilots who aren't European coded?
>>94769211>>94766085The other "fun" thing about Collection Tactical Combat is unit-locking. The Kampfer with mine-whip is exclusive to the wargame starter book, as are the Gundam and GM Custom models. The shotgun Kampfer was otherwise only available as a chase figure in one gacha series, while the Zaku-FZ was a rare head variant in another. The OG Guntank is exclusive to the White Base box, though fortunately someone put out one in a set of bottlecap figures in the same scale and the Chinese *immediately* ripped it off. Likewise the GP-03 was only available with the full corvette mode box, and common grunt stuff like Dopps, Ball-Ks, and Core Fighters were frequently chase figures. Ironically the mid-sized transport vehicles like Big Johns, the orbital shuttle, and flatbed trucks were often relatively common when they got put into a set. Unfortunately they also usually got put into a set with a bunch of RX-78-2 reposes or SEED garbage. If you do wind up interested in smaller-scale wargaming with Gundam stuff, then the short-lived Gundam "G-Sight" gacha series, while slightly larger-scale than the 1:400 Collection minis, had a pack-in piece of either terrain or a small vehicle with the MS. I managed to score a couple of the scout hovertanks, some California Base turrets, and a transport truck which I have recast the absolute shit out of for other games. I still want the Samson and the round-topped Odessa turret at some point but those can wait for now. There's also STLs for Type-81s (which have never gotten a 1:400 release) as well as Magellas and Dopps floating around.
>>94766875>>94767239Is M'Quve even an ace? The Gyan is cool and he's obviously high up in Zeon's command but I never got the impression he was some kind of mobile suit ace. Just some really good at playing the political game who could pull the strings to get a cool MS like a Gyan.Even Dozle makes more sense to me as being labeled an ace, in case they wanted someone with actual screentime who's decently high up in the Zeon chain.
>>94769343M'Quve got screen time fighting the Gundam, in a suit people really like, and Dozle's Zaku is.. another Zaku. Buried deep in the MSVs. For a character who's not especially well-loved by the Japanese fanbase and heavily-associated with another Mobile Armor.
>>94769343No, M’Quve isn’t an ace. Though Char comments he’s a much better pilot than he expected him to be.He’d get into a Zeon ace pack through nepotism and popularity alone. Which is easily the most M’Quve thing he could do.
>>94769284You mean besides Lalah?
>>94769366And yet Dozle's Zaku somehow made it into Gundam Evolution at launch as Zaku II (Melee). It's a good design for a melee-focused Zaku variant if you don't want to go for the over-the-top massive axe the one Black Tri-Star had in Origin.
>>94769284>Zaku II (Cracker)This boy.
>>94748242Here's hopping that you can use the Gunplas that already exist on the market to play the game
>>94769343>Dozle's Zaku is.. another ZakuYou'll have to pay Bandai's Zaku tax eventually.
>>94769733Putting aside the fact that they already made a diorama of exactly that alongside all the ones showing off the new miniatures, what exactly COULD they do to stop you from doing it anyway? Aside from just the fact that the ships and some units don't have appropriate model kits.
The only thing I want out of Assemble is a War in the Pocket box with the Alex, Zaku II Kai, and Kämpfer
The trailer shows off this game board. It's an 8x9 and has some colored hexes with icons, implying some sort of mechanical effect.
>>94769864Blue tiles have a wrench and a gear implying some kind of repair point, and the red tiles have a satellite dish implying some kind of comms or command point. Green tiles don't have an icon but seem to be in valleys or rivers, maybe some kind of obstructed terrain?
>>94769864But their display is set on this different mat. No colored hexes, and its 10x11. And a space background rather than a ground design, if that means anything. But the point is, the trailer mat is 67 hexes (5 rows of 7, and 4 rows of 8). Whereas the space mat is 105 hexes (6 rows of 10, 5 rows of 9), which is almost 60% larger play area. So I wonder if the trailer is showing off some type of learn-to-play mat, and the full game uses the bigger size; or if the rules are designed to support variable game sizes.
>>94768471Genuinely surprised there's no Requiem for Vengeance and barely any Witch stuff considering how often Bandai shills whatever is newest.
>>94769976It definitely felt like there was some disconnect between marketing/merchandising of G-Witch suits and the actual show. Most notably were probably the red eye stickers for HG Aerial and Calibarn, as well as a few strange decisions on which grunt suits got kits vs which ones got to do something notable in the actual show.There's also the fact that GQuuuuuux is also coming out this year but there's been no indication of it making any appearance in Assemble or the TCG yet. Especially the TCG.
>>94769647Yeah, he certainly looks like he's dancing whitely.
>>94769976No Requiem stuff is especially weird when you consider all you need to do to capitalize on it is include the Gouf and Zaku Tank. There isn’t even a need to throw Gundam EX or the salvaged Zakus into the initial release.
>>94769927>or if the rules are designed to support variable game sizes.Likely variable game sizes. I wouldn't be surprised if they have plans for "scenario boxes" that include a few maps in addition to one or more of the larger minis.
>>94769862Based.>>94769927I imagine it'll be able to support various game sizes.Also, if the Zudah doesn't have a rule that means it can spontaneously explode when moving the game is shit.>>94769343Not an ace, per se, but an iconic pilot of an iconic suit from the original series.We may see Dozle's Zaku at some point, but I think it makes more sense to focus on stuff we actually see on screen first. Sure, prinjle in the occasional little extra like the White Dingo GM, but I think going real hard on MSV stuff out the gate would be detrimental.>>94768471Pretty solid spread, really. Makes me wonder if trnasformable suits like Aegis will be sold with both modes in a single box.>>94769822People eat that shit up, mam. I expect, if the game does well and survives, to see a thousand different Zaku variants and their assorted bastard offspring.Not that I'll complain if we get a Hi-Zak.>>94769976Same. I want more stuff from WfM. Regardless of thoughts on the actual show, it had some cool ass MS designs, and I'd love an Ariel Rebuild to show up.
Wait do they already sell minis at the games scale?
>>94771611I'm not sure about specific scales, but there have been a bunch of small-scale lines some need paint, some don't, some are pre-assembled or mostly assembled figures, and some are more like this kind of miniature. If you are looking for things to use for this game instead of the intended miniatures the only difficulties you might find are with selection and finding older products.
>>94771611From what I'm seeing it's the same size as the Gundam Artifact series https://www.hlj.com/search/?Word=gundam%20artifactThey also retail for ~$7 a model in the States and about $4 in Japan, they're designed kind of like a half-scale 1:144 model but with much, much thicker plastic on the parts (and many solid parts). I've got the Dom Tropen from series 2 in my collection already, they're smaller scale than the Strategy of Gundam stuff and about twice as big as a Battletech or gundam Collection model. I'll see if I can get a good scale shot later.
>>94769343Either the Gyan was god damned amazing for being able to put the Gundam on the backfoot in melee or M'Quve is a pretty damn good pilot.
>>94772042Spec-wise it outperformed the Gelgoog and was the OYW's top performing mass-producible MS.The two reasons Zeon went with the Gelgoog is half because arming your frontline soldiers with nothing but swords and landmines for a space war is retarded, and half because Zeonic bribed them so hard that they were going to pick the Gelgoog no matter what.M'Quve was also coincidentally an ace fencer and had home field advantage.
>>94772042He did prep a mine field for the occasion and he did wield a beam saber, which could ice the Gundam.
