Black Templar Brutalis Dreadnought Edition>2024's Best Miniatureshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-us/articles/vjddepvh/warhammer-miniature-of-the-year-2024-who-won/>Balance Dataslatehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/chwd2fdd/warhammer-40000-balance-dataslate-deep-strikes-and-ap-in-the-crosshairs/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrainhttps://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Level animationhttps://gofile.io/d/J7muqs>Previous Thread:>>No.94763279>Thread Question Do you like my first attempt at painting a Dreadnought?
I FUCKING TOLD YOU NIGGA. I predicted that the combat engineer kit would be able to build grenadiers too, just like how you can build deathmarks or immortals with one necron kit. I TOLD YOU. GRENADIERS CONFIRMED!
>>94766962>TQThe paintjob is fine but I think you need to add a bit more to the base. Having nothing but snow is just a bit boring.Maybe add some rocks or ice crystals in there to break it up a bit?
>>94766974God these models got massacred in the transition between resin and plastic.
>>94766975Thanks anon, good idea! I have only been painting for about 3 months but have finished about 1100 points of Templars as of this week, decided on snow for bases but am open to making it better. Any suggestions for what to use for rocks etc?
>>94766974>35 points>box of 5
>>94766962How did you make that snow? I don't like it. Its too fluffy.
>>94766974Dumbass that's the ability name moron.
>>94766993It's just Valhallan Blizzard
>>94766974Grenadier is the rule they have. If they were actually DK Grenadiers they would have hotshot weapons instead of shotguns. It is also a type of infantry so they aren't saying "you can build these as grenadiers" but are saying "as a grenadier type of soldier".
>>94766982I bought a basing rock kit off Amazon like a lazy dumbass in order to get the right sizes, but you can quite literally just walk outside and grab some rocks off the ground.Here's some ice and snow bases I did with them. For ice you can just paint light blue and drybrush up to a white. Then just add snow.
>>94766974you are fucking retarded my dudegrenadiers are dead and we're never getting themthey've been amalgamated with engineers and it's their ability and face mask that lives on
>>94767014That looks really cool, gonna give that a go. Thanks fren!
>>94767014Don't feel bad anon, I 3d print my rocks
>>94767014>>94766982And if you prefer the rocky snow terrain instead of icy snow, cork is your friend. Buy a few sheets from a hobby store or online and rip it apart to glue onto your base. Paint over that, add your snow, and you've got a decently good-looking rocky texture poking out through the snow.
>>94767018Truly abhorrent behavior, have a terrible day
>>94766990It will change after the box goes live and go up some, but they wont stop being auto-includes until at least a few months after they are sold separately. Even at 50-60 points for five they would be great.
>>94766990>$60
>>94767018As a votranny should
>>94767027I like them being perfectly flat on one side and it is a great way to use up left over resin lol.
>>94767037>>94767041>>94766990>Now imagine engineers don't perform well and need to be lowered in points
>>94766974Anon, the engineer kit doesn't make grenadiers, the engineers just have that rule. Learn to read.
>>94766974This is a special rule. Grenadiers are dead. Or rather, grenadiers and engineers have been merged into the unified krieger equivalent of cadian kasrkin.
>>94767060That is basically impossible, five bodies for 35 points would be good even if they were straight up random dudes. >>94766974Points page has been leaked, we now have confirmation there are no grenadiers :)
>>94766981It's not even close, managerial cashcow retardation. Can't imagine wanting to buy these shitty ass knock-offs after you've seen what ForgeWorld put out for DKoK and how flavorful it all was.Then again I'm not a consoooomer who buys a bunch of shit for the thrill of spending money.
>>94767087I don't think theyre meant to be elite.
>>94767106No but I am saying at 35 points they would be good if they were just five guardsmen with no special rules other than perhaps scout. Extremely cheap action monkeys are good on their own.
>>94767087WHERE
>>94767129Here I guess
>>94767106any army in the game would kill for 5 bodies that can do actions for 35Space Marines have been using Scouts since 5th just for cheap troops and they're 5 for 70
>>94767144>35 points for a squad of 5 grenade-spamming action monkeys with a ton of F R E E anti-vehicle mortal wounds AND scout HOLY SHIT THEY'RE BROKEN
>>94767159We already knew the points for those, it was on the warcom article. They will go up in like a week or two but probably not to more than 50 points. Then a few months after they are available separately they will go up to like 65 points probably.
>>94767144Codex point values are always wrong. Expect a lot of these numbers to go up, and expect guard players to piss and moan like they always do
I have a lore question is this the place to ask?
>>94767144Ha ha ha, holy shit. 35 points for a glass cannon. Wonderful.
>>94767171I can't get over how broken the Kriggers are. 35 points? I can just run them at tanks and throw grenades + remote mines for 0 CP cost and like 9 mortal wounds per tank.Cheapest action monkey in the game too. Fuck, man.
>>94767176sure why not
>>94767182Is it heretical to practice safe sex in the Imperium?Like condoms, other forms of birth control, etc.
>>94767176It is all satire if that is your question.
>>9476719240k has no defined rules like that. The fiction in general is very loose and inconsistent.
other than the occasional warp stuff, is every weapon that the nids used part of the or biological? don't they have regular tech too?
>>94767197Gotcha Thanks for helping.
>>94767192would depend on the world, there is a huge variety
>>94767144Can anyone make out how many points it says the taurox primes is here?
>>94767217Taurox is 75 prime is 90
>>94767144Is the scion detachment not in the book?
>>94767200With Tyranids, there's no distinction. Their biology is their technology.
>>94767231I don't have the book, just posted the page I got from elsewhere. But no based on this I would say not, but they have said it still works with the codex.
>>94767181Really obnoxious
>>94767200>don't they have regular tech too?Nope. Developing new technology and evolving new bioforms are one and the same.A mere termagaunt is several different bioforms: the creature itself, its weapon, and the ammunition in said weapon are all tyranid bioforms the hivemind bent to its purposes, and all of them are alive.
>>94767222Sweet, ty. My blind ass couldn't tell.
>Dudes with good rules you might want a lot of>35 points, 5 models/boxIG players getting fleeced, as usual.
>6 Kriggers>One Grenades shot deals 3 mortal wounds>4 of the Krigger squads deal D3+3 mortal wounds>23 mortalsIt takes 210 points of kriggers to kill a Knight
>>94767231None of the grotmas are in the books. >>94767144I'm gonna have to rip arms off of scions to slap Las carbines on and call em engineers at this insanely low point cost.
>>94767144BASADO
>>94767262IG faggots deserve it
>Guard codex is pulled for being too overpowered>Dropped again>Still overpoweredI wonder what kind of ungodly 7e Eldar fuckup the unnerfed guard codex was
>>94767144Oh, sentinels now are 2 max
>>94767279>Guard codex is pulled for being too overpoweredDon't tell me you actually believe this shit.
Does anyone have White Dwarf pdfs from like the last year?
>guard is OPwtf I hate IG now>>94767264>guard can easily make Knightfags piss their pants and crywtf I LOVE IG nowI will gladly offer my enjoyment up so that Knightfags can be more miserable.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
If you combine two boxes of Engineers, does that mean the squad gets two mines?
>>94767262>Buying official plastic for the army that can literally look like whatever you want.
What 40k audiobook should I listen to today?
>>94767233I know but I meant mechatronic stuff>>94767256yes they impregnate the gun to spawn the children and then launch them for one of the weapon
>>94767336That was me, thank you. Love me white-haired zealout nuns.
>>94767315Don't care. Still flanking with pitbulls.
>>94767348>I meant mechatronic stuffHard no. Everything Tyranid is biological from their gravity manipulation to ammunition. Even fucking bone swords are bioforms.>yes they impregnate the gun to spawn the children and then launch them for one of the weaponIn some cases this is probably true but I think in the case of the Fleshborer the gun is basically an incubator and launch device. I don't think the beetles are the gun's offspring.
>>94767316God modern 40k art looks so fucking bad digital art was a mistake
>>94767336Nice feet
>>94767367I didn't know they can manipulate gravity
>>94767342High kahls oath
>>94767379I think that's basically how their FTL works since they can't Warp travel. They have a bioship that can gravity the shit out of a tunnel between them and their target, compressing the space between the two points.
>>94767379It's how they do FTL.It's incredibly destructive when they do it within star systems, too- if done too close to planets, a fleet passing by can rip them out of their orbits.
>>94767385I bet the Necrons can or used to be able to do that too
>>94767392They don't need to, they have inertialess drives and Dolmen Gates.
why are DKOK models half as cheap as every chaff infantry in the game but with firepower as good as a 100pt unit's
>>94767403Because they aren't, there will never be a time where you can actually use these points in a competitive game. There will be a points update before the codex is allowed at tournaments.
>>94767403So they can sucker in tournyfags to spend thousands of dollarydoos on grey plastic only to nerf the rules into oblivion before the general release of the book. Just like Votann in 9th
>>94767403>why are DKOK models half as cheap as every chaff infantry in the game but with firepower as good as a 100pt unit'sEngineers are a 5-man squad of T3 dudes and Grenades only has an 8" range.They're also armed with shotguns and maybe one GL so they probably have zero threat outside 12". That said the remote mine is pretty good at delivering even more mortals so you can't just ignore them.
>>94767403The engineers lack a good way of actually getting near anything unless you stick them in reserves or a chimera in which case you're adding +75pts to them on principle. People are acting like they're going to be deepstriking at 6" away, they're a 5 man squad at T3 5+, that need to be almost in charging distance to do anything, they can easily get picked up by incidental fire, it's not mind boggling as to why they're so cheap.
>>94767472There are two ways to field them that I can think of. The first is supporting an infantry squad to discourage the infantry squad from being charged (squad could fall back and then get grenaded/mined) or as action monkeys. On their own they wont do a whole lot unless you are lucky or the opponent screws up.
>>94767472Don't they get 6 inch scout moves so turn 1 you just move them behind LoS and that leaves you free to mine + grenade t2on the midboard?
>>94767472>5+Do we know that for sure? It's probably a 4+ like Grenadiers had.Still, assuming a 4+ save, a 5-man squad of intercessors wipes them with an extra point of damage to spare in one round of shooting, and that's without resorting to the grenade launcher. I didn't account for cover for the Kriegers, but I also didn't give the marines any bonuses or rerolls.
Why does Lord Marshal Dreir have a name instead of a clone vat number?
>>94767514to be fair, Intercessors are absolutely undercosted in terms of firepower after the buffs.
>>94767518Death Korps officers have names and have had them since at least Vraks, they're implied to go through a different upbringing to the normal Guardsman and may intentionally be allowed to have more autonomy to stop them being as smoothbrained as their soldiery. Exceptional soldiery promoted into officers might be given a name.
>>94767514They have always had a 4+ save so it would be odd for them to have a 5+ now. They also look fairly armored in the pictures.
>>94767523Ehh, somewhat. It's still only bolt rifles and one grenade launcher. It isn't until you start digging into all the bonuses and abilities marines can buff them up with that they become a problem on their own.
>>94767552it's 4 shots per dude, it's kind of nuts. 20 shots on a 5 man is way above what your average group does
>>94767336Either post her bulge or go
Why is everybody so mean in this thread?
>>94767585Becuase this thread has the most secondaries and tourists from /v/ and /pol/ who only come here to shitpost and don't actually want to engage in any sort of discussion about the actual hobby
>>94767585Anyone who spends more time on this forum than playing the game or hobbying is a bitter soul that laments about a hobby they no longer find joy in and only persist to bemoan their state to any they can force to listen to them.
>>94767585They aren't, it's just schizos shadowboxing. Actual posters talk about the game and post models.
>>94767601Some of us are here because we are working from home and not able to do anything else meaningful with the hobby until we get off work . . .
>>94767585This fucking sucks
>>94767618>>94767601And some of us are here because we are "working" from work and not able to do anything else meaningful with the hobby until we get home either.
Bummer, most of the good stuff is locked behind stratagems
What was your nicest Warhammer related experience in the last year?
>>94767615only a single anon posted models in this thread so far lol
>>94767640>It's about transports instead of tankspamthank fuck
>>94767645Thread has only been up for a couple hours, most people are at work, and there was just a huge bit of new game info to be discussed. You're a faggot. Look at last thread.
With Ablative Plating being a stratagem, maybe the regular Rogal Dorn has a new ability?
Beastmasters are technically part of the the Cult subfaction, but where do Mandrakes go? They're not really specifically part of Cults, Covens or Kabals but are more like free agents.Obviously a drukhari re-release would probably bring back some resin stuff into plastic, like Grotesques. But what if they just did something like>plastic Kheradraukh, king of Mandrakes>Nightfiend to lead units of Mandrakes>Shaderavens>Shadow DaemonsAnd then you could have Mandrake armies
>>94767694>but where do Mandrakes go?In the trash like the rest of their misbegotten faction.
wow outside the rules, the codex is pretty underwhelming. I fucking hate how gay GW is, the day they decided that no model no rule shit was the worst shit they ever did.
>>94767701Chapterhouse...
>>94767601I am here because I am depressed and being here makes me depressed so I stay here and become more depressed.
>>94767694Mandrakes, Incubi, and Scourges are all technically part of neutral organizations of their own that serve the city as a whole.
i dont normally go in for the heresy "another slight armor variation single miniature in resin", but this guy's actually pretty good.
>>94767737WE WUZ
>>94767694Same place as Incubi: Blades for hire.
>>94767737Meh?Boring.
>>94767737dunno, ask /hhg/
>>94767748Incubi have Drazhar though, Mandrakes could have Kheradraukh
>>94767701>guard players when generic datasheet is removed (it totally represented their dudes in the way proxying for another regiment totally wouldn't)
How does the Traveling Players rule work? If you can have 500 points of harlequins in a 1000 point army, isn't that half your army?
>>94767790>Uhm excuse me sweaty those cadians look like kriegers you're going to have to use the correct datasheet
>>94767733>>94767694Khimera should blatantly be a fleshcrafter coven unit it's literally a scary dog thing with it's skin removed 6 eyes and tentacles the other beasts looks like shit and shoudl be axed, but fleshdogs should totally be like the fast attack where Grotesques are the hulking heavy elite thing, wracks the troops, etcI'd play DE for that alone
>>94767806>man invents scenario to make himself mad>again
>>94767811>the other beasts looks like shit and shoudl be axedClawed fiend is cool.
>>94767806I do this but unsarcastically, I hate IG players
I just like to paint my dudes.I hate playing the game and I'm starting to hate Kill Team too.
>>94767862Why do you hate the game playa?
>>94767852you don't do this because the rules haven't even gone live yet retard
>>94767811Khymera are warp beasts and are something far more bizarre than a mere flesh crafted puppet.
are the peak ancient Eldar and peak Krorks equals?
>>94767894I mean, are Titan pilots and Space Marines equal? It's kind of a meaningless question
>>94767640>constant "except titanic" restrictionsare we really afraid of letting stormlord have its day in the sun?
>>94767894No, Krorks were massively more powerful.Eldar were only created to spawn avatars of their gods in order to fight the C'tan, which they weren't even good at. Krorks did the actual fighting during the War in Heaven.
>>94767879NTA but probably because rules wise it's gotta be the most uninteresting wargame out there
>>94767862Play casual narrative games with medium-sized armies.
>>94767879I dunno, I just don't find it fun anymore. It's such a hassle dragging the army around, the actual gameplay doesn't engage me, etc.Maybe I just need an extended break.
>>94767911I bet the Krorks looked majestic in a way, like big and strong but not mangled like the Orks
>>94767804>If you can have 500 points of harlequins in a 1000 point army, isn't that half your army?Yeah, so what?
>>94767914not even close lmao
>>94767790Guard crybabies wouldn’t be satisfied with their 4E codex AND all the riches of Heaven and Earth.
>>94767804Anon 500p of Harlies is like, 5 units counting Characters.
>>94767204Hookers are a thing on some worlds. Alizebeth Bequin was one before she met Eisenhorn.
>>94767879FAGBURGER
For those of you who actually play, what’s your longest winning streak?
>>94767862>I just like to paint my dudes.based
>>947680231
Scions lost deep strike
>>94767645I've already posted my battlewagon a few times and I don't have anything new for the class
>>94768032Lol they really want you to buy the aquilons huh
>>94768032Oh fuck right off.
I like my slop :)
>>94768023I won about ten consecutive games at the start of 10th but I was teaching a lot of new people and I play some fairly confusing armies to deal with for newer players.
>>94768057Your bases would benefit immensely from some colour. Maybe light sand?
>>94768032>>94768045Ahhh, fukin' called it.
what would be a cool replacement for the warp if you wanted to make 40k less fantasy like? Something cool that could be used to spice shit up while still being a bit less mumbo jumbo compared to the warp
>>94768032>Regiment keywordSo does that mean you can pick what regiment they're associated with and give them the appropriate command squad bonuses?
>>94768057Oh yeah?Well, I don't like your heldrake!
>>94768057by your word
Anyone else spend time autistically crafting lists and lore for /yourdudes/ of armies you damn well know you'll never build?
>Be ancient galaxy-consuming creature >Consume literally trillions of unique lifeforms, adding the DNA sequence from each into your own genome allowing you to become the perfect organism >Simulataneously have a hive mind that allows you to learn from every battle you've ever fought And the result is...>Make sharp-tooth dinosaur beetles that use closed-fist swords and guns that shoot maggots, rarely if ever changing. >Get regularly BTFO in tactical skirmishes>Only strategy is to completely overwhelm enemy with numbers >Get routinely goaded into a situation where humans wait to destroy an entire planet until you've deployed the optimal amount of biomass onto it. They should have been organic Borg as in "Q Who".
>>94767645That’s because carnac is a crazy person and fights with xerself all day. Mental illness is real.
>>94768068Like the rims? They're blue with lighter blue highlights on mud texture paste. Looks a bit better irl since my camera is total ass. They are lazy though
>look at model >paint job is pretty good>get 6 inches closer>oh god it's awful how could I have fucked up so bad
>>94768103it would have been cool to see Nids using amped up and modified versions of any biological ability or any super physiology you find in minor xenos and have them be in their army
>>94768122Good thing everyone's going to be looking at them from at least 3 feet away on a table
>>94768141Yeah but I know they're awful and my autism goes wild as a result
>Straken gone
>>94768032It all... returns... to nooothiiiiing
>>94768141am I autistic for painting my models so that they look good close up as well?
>>94768153>am I autisticYes. Next question.
>>94768147Pour one out
>>94768090Literally all sci-fi ideas of FTL travel are equally mumbo jumbo
>>94766962>TQI like it anon, and the snow looks good. If I had a criticism, I think the red on the claws needs another coat and then to be hit with your shade of choice.
>>94768100When I was in high school I had a color scheme, gimmick, list, and a page of lore for every faction in SoulStorm.
>>94768147He'll return in spirit as the 'heavy bolter carying guy' in the Catachan kill team ....Coming 2026 at this fucking rate come on GW you lazy cunts
>>94768173yes but it's not literally having a massive dimension turned into hell and gives you magical powers and spawns demons and all of that talk
Is Creed back yet?
>>94768100I spend a lot of time building lists, despite having zero interest in ever playing again. I just picked up some Kill Teams and battleforces and like building armies out of them as hobby projects.
>>94768184That's Harker anon, Straken was the melee beast
>>94768193He's back In Trazyn's museum
>>94768205gay
What’s a model you’ve seen posted by anons here you actually liked? For me it’s that one blue ork guy’s warboss on trike with a giant fucking chainsword
>>94767879I know those Salamanders! You coming to the shop tonight?
>>94768219I love the gold stompa with the "born 2 krump" medallion.
>>94768219just getting BL Anons land raider out of the way
>>94768224Yea, still working on the same heavy ints though. My productivity has nosedived since last autumn.
>>94768093no, thats not even remotely close to how that works
>>94768224>Sallyfag finally outed.About damn time.
>>94768057They qt
>>94768219Mechanicanons floppy admech pla e is sick
>>94768240My productivity has been shit too. Going to a tournament (even tho a tiny one) for the first time in 6 years has got me painting accursed cultists of all things. Those models fuckin suck>>94768057Keep up the good work Word Bear bro
>>94768235
>>94768286You going to the one on the 25th? If so I’ll see you there.
>>94768291wait what I thought this is a meme image, this was actually made by someone here?
>>94766962Heavy Intercessors the best option for back end objective control for blood angels?
>>94768219Basically any conversion done by the Thunda Krunchaz anon, the same one with the Wartrike you mentioned. These models here were my inspiration for the Kult of Speed I started.
>>94768298No, infiltrators. Heavies ate for frontline shit.
>>94768291My beloved
>>94768297
>>94768353naisu
>>94768054>>94768032honestly a reasonable decision.gives each stormtrooper unit a role>kasrkin for footslogger stormtroopers>scions for mechanized stormtroopers<aqualons for deepstriking stormtroopers
>>94768219I really like those og blood angels that get posted here sometimes
>>94768367And nowadays GW is modeling the deepstrike equipment like the aquilons, reivers, etc
They are going to remove the ability to put Heavy Weapon Squads in troops and command squads, aren't they?
>>94768408Yes
>>94768032As the resident scionanon, I'm disappointed. But I'm glad I own like a dozen taurox for them to ride in instead.
>>94768032I bought and painted like 30 scions because I thought kasrkin were never coming back. Obligatory pic (DEI included).
>>94768443OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA WHYTE ELDAR @
>>94768452Kill yourself.
>>94768119Found a pic thats in better lighting. I think it's just okay:tm: The termies and a couple other models are slacking since they're from when I first started painting again ~6 months ago.
>>94768452Damn your faggot ass thought you were honestly being funny
do eldar/deldar have bionic protheiss? wraithbone arms?
>>94768489>>94768476samefag
>>94768490Yes, but they’re just for emergency fixes. They can grow replacements as needed.
>>94768494(you) aren’t even worth the screenshot that you’ll say I photoshopped.
>>94768452Say that to my face heretic and not over astropath and see what happens.
>>94768502SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>94768494Your "joke" wasn't funny and apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so
>>94768282
>>94768490No. They don't even have medics.
>>94768504>>94768452Samefag
>>94768452I thought it was funny
>>94768512No fucking shit.
does any faction have shrink rays or is it too cartoony for this world?
>>94768520A necron might have made one for fun at some point.
>>94768528sick, use em
>>94768520..What fetish shit were you picturing? just say it. also Orks/Necrons probably do
>>94768530I'll use it on your peepee
>>94768520Yes, Dark Eldar use them to shrink down captives for easier transport. Lelith will even carry the most attractive slave of each raid in her own bosom, though they rarely survive.
>>94768533Probably the faggot who posts that giantess SoB art every now and again. Hopefully he killed himself since I last saw him.
lmao they called AP rend, GW QA strikes again
>>94768556That sounds nasty where does he post it?
>>94768584Also the "113rd" on the Krieger's shoulder in the official art
>>94768601On reddit. You should go check it out and stay there.
>>94768584I want to start a nazi army, should I start a death korp army, black templar army, orks army or a iron warriors army?
>>94768533not fetish, I was just wondering how it would have made so much shit easier, you think the two Eldar factions have em?>>94768535you know this could be seen potentially as a compliment but still that's not nice anonyou huwt mah feewings>>94768556I can safely tell you I am not him
>>94768640go back to /r/horusgalaxy
>>947680233 out of almost 300 tenth gamesFUCK my useless LIFE
>>94768640You should probably play the WWII tabletop game instead so GW doesn't make posts about you on Warcom whenever you show up to tournaments. I don't know the name of the game.
>>94768023I'm at 18 wins with my dogshit terminator and bladeguard listthe people at my LGS suck
>>94768656The fuck is that? No I'm not going there to check it out
>>94768023I've played a single game of 10th right after launch and I lost, but it was kind of fun. I haven't played since due to a combination of having to get rid of my table and life shit.
Anyone got the catachan heavy weapons team leak?
>>94768684TLDR the main 40k reddit started banning everyone who complained about femstodes so a splinter group made their own subreddit to larp as crusaders. Now the big 40k subreddit has a bot literally called HiveGuard to automatically ban anyone who posts there, which is amusing to me.
>>94768691
>>94768640Very easy anon. Follow these steps.>pick death korp>blow your brains out>????>win
>>94768584Why in God's name would I ever use the Multiple rockets? Napkin math says it's worse even against Guardsmen.Maybe it's good against orks? Then again if you have to shoot anything that aren't boyz or grots it's dogshit.
>>94768706Thanks, Anon!
>>94768023Longest steak is 4 wins with the Orks index right at the start of 10th.Once Orks got their codex and I decided I liked the worst detachments the most, things went very downhill. I'm currently on an 8-loss streak that started in November.
>>94768706>No model on the datasheetThis must be a preproduction book.Things could (theoretically) change a bit before release..
>>94768732Theoretically, but unlikely
>>94768710No, its slightly better against guardsmen. Did you apply anti-infantry 3+?
>>94768710If you can get it a pip of AP which is probably doable somewhere in the codex the rockets are likely better against single wound infantry.
>>94768656You know those retards that fail to accept that 40k is satire and unironically like the Emperor? That's their subreddit
>>94768706Heavy Weapon Teams are always too fragile to justify taking alone though. That's why you'd always integrate them into infantry squads (which obviously don't exist anymore). It's six wounds at 5+ save a unit. They get wiped turn one unless someone has nothing to shoot.
>>94768837That should have taken the option to add a HWT mini to a battleline squad, like space marines attack bikes can get attached to space marines bikes
>>94768611It's "143rd", retard
>>94768894Uh no it's not sweetie
>>94768611you dont know old english then retardits pronounced eleventy 3rd
>>94768894Sure James whatever you say
>>94768959>113th
>>94768894>>94768959>113rd
>>94768640Tau
>>94769063>TOTAL CHAOS DEATH!
>>94769063Goku soloes their entire chapter btw.
>>94769128to be fair 40k can be beaten by many anime shows and comics, still powerful but you know
Okay, the combination of +1 to wound on oath AND G-man giving double oaths has to go. It's too strong.
>>94769128goku gets solo'd by nurgle (heart disease) and Tzeench (TRAPPED and BETRAYED)
>>94769167skill issuegit gud scrublet
>>94769167KNIGHTFAG TEARS LOL
>>94769172I don't know man the later stuff makes him pretty darn strong even by dbz standards
>>94769128Dragonball power levels have reached such absurdity that every new villain has to be able to destroy entire galaxies with the flick of a wrist to stand a chance against the main cast. That being said, a guardsman with a lasrifle could put a hole through Goku's chest from behind.
>>94769218what you said counters what you said
>>94769218But that relies on the writer deciding to have his guard lowered when Golden Frieza is right in front of him. In other words, unlike Majin Vegeta, the threat was still in front of him and didn't agree to stop fighting first.
>>94769194>>94769200i've played like 20 games with it and I just don't lose because the math on a bunch of units gets ridiculousA Repulsor Executioner can shoot its main gun at a tank and deal real damage while all of the smaller guns just destroy an oath'd guy nearby.Enemy deathstars like big blobs of Kataphrons just wither and die even to weak fire because bolters are wounding on 4's.You can just run an Ironstorm vehicle heavy list and advance up the map vaporizing the two most important things a turn while getting access to cheap, strong stratagems, nuke buttons and fantastic action economy with Power of the Machine Spirit and Overwatch on Oath'd units.Once Marine players finally drop Gladius I expect it to be a 60+% winrate army
>>94769218How many Guardsmen would it take to kill Jiren, the final boss of Dragon Ball?
>>94769251at least 100just to be sure
>>94769145I remember watching Solo: A Star Wars Story with my little cousin and there was the WW1-esque scene. I went online to rewatch it as it was the only part worth remembering and I check the comments and there are 40k fanboys in it. I've seen this before of any sci-fi military IP and inevitably there are 40k fanboys in the comment section. I've looked at historical (ww1/ww2) movie clips and seen 40k fanboys going all "this is how the Imperial Guard fights." Have we become the bronies of sci-fi intellectual properties always looking at different stuff and just going "what if that is in 40k" or "40k can beat x IP" and so on? Seriously it kind of gives me second hand embarrassment. I know that a good chunk of these comments are not made by kids/teenagers either.
>>94769248>Kataphronsthose useless fucks die to anything anyway KEKhave you tried NOT playing shitters?
>>94769298goodness
>>94768959I was thinking of this guy, that's funny as fuck. Sorry for calling you a retard, Anon
>>94768379Scions literally have grav parachutes on the models. Those aren't bedrolls.
>>94769325My basing autism is reaching critical mass. My eyes are always drawn towards the bases of miniatures. And I can say the Kriegers are probably the only miniatures on the GW webstore that didn't use sand basing. They actually used texture paste, most likely painted Stirland Mud.
>>94769330are you retarded
>>94769357Read their codex anon. Those are not bedrolls, they're a stealth class anti-grav parachute, not be to confused with grav-chutes. Also, unrelated, how does the taurox STILL not have firing deck?
>>947680236, waaay back in like 2007I won every game in a local tournament purely by fluke and faavor of the list-building gods, I made an army list that was more thematic than competitive but it just happened to be well suited to fighting my opponents' armies and the victory objectives on the table.>>94768640>Thanks, it's Hitler
Help me, /40kg/.How do I make the most edgiest most cliche ridden space marine homebrew chapter?
>>94769395Put the name of every chapter listed on Lexicanum with at least a paragraph of lore on a dartboard and copy the lore of whatever chapter it lands on, tailoring it to suit your needs. Being an edgy cliche is the standard for every space marine.
When was the first time GW mentioned "Grim Darkness..."?
>>94769395I'd copy that guy who posted his loyalist traitor geneseed chapter here yesterday then threw a bitchfit when people made fun of it
>>94768959Never forget the eleventy-third
Why yes, i will join your escalation league, and yes, i will be the 4th person picking dark angels
>>94769395Black Templars offshoot who are secretly made from chimeric geneseed taken from Raven Guard, Imperial Fists, Night Lords, and Alpha Legion.They branched off because they were so incredibly loyal and zealous that the Black Templars were jealous, so they got sent out on a special crusade which was actually a suicide mission. But because they're also super tactical each squad is basically an army by itself which means they could pull off missions just like in Astartes.They're best friends with the Deathwatch for being xenos killers but hate the rest of the Inquisition for being corrupt and overly radical, Their main battle tactic is to utilize their super tactical nature to sneak up and ambush their targets with power knives, using hyper-brutal executions to terrify other targets.They're good at fighting everyone but they like fighting Tau and Eldar the most because those are dumb xenos who don't understand that mankind is king in the galaxy and the aliens just need to go extinct.Their Chapter Master is Sephiroth Rex, who uses a jump pack and elongated Power Katana to impale his enemies from above.
>>94769446Cringe. I’m running Xenos for my next league instead of my main army.
>>94769395>loyalist>traitor geneseed
>>94769438that was pretty funny not gonna lie
>>94769395Successor to Blood Angels. Fleet based because their Homeworld was destroyed by Grey Knights, but the chapter still exists in eternal penance because they were too good at fighting to exterminate entirely. Special traits are that they still have red thirst / black rage but they're able to control it because they try really hard and clamp down it it with pure angst. Their martial doctrine and specialty is razing entire planets even if there is the smallest seed of heresy, and readily sacrificing allies if it means the mission succeeds. Their big secret is that they maybe are not so loyal to the Emperor as you would think, and are using the Imperium for their own goals. They are called the Doom Reapers or Death Reapers. Their icon is a hooded, grinning skull with a knife clamped in its teeth, over a mushroom cloud explosion.
>>94769480Carnac never pretended he was a player, retard, he takes pride in being a lorefaggot.Know your shitposters, EC.
>>94769480>extremely low quality
Post models, what are you working on or what did you finish recently?I found the old 5th edition metal Archon in an anime store of all things for 30$ so of course I immediately bought it and painted it up.Just need that new basing bits set to come out so I can liter their bases with dead Space Marines, I was going to put Deathwatch parts on all their bases but then the new basing set got announced so now I wait.
>>94769512TankEverything is in my car rn as I'm driving back.
>>94769446Fake fan if you don't bring the Lion as soon as possible and loudly roleplay that the other 3 DAfags are unrepentant Fallen.
*engages you in diplomacy*
>>94769512I’m working on heavy intercessors and a Titus /mydude/ kitbash. Last finished models were Battlesuits. I’ll post them one last time, any more and I think someone will hunt me down for being so repetitive.
>>94768032that's really dumbI'm sure the valkyrie lost its deep-strike adjacent special rule too but it's still dumb
>>94769556Oh cool, your weeb shit is on topic because the anime woman has a tau symbol on her hat and there's a blurry blue figure in the background!
If they squat any more flyers from the codex I'm gonna lose it. The Valkyrie is dogshit, why would literally anyone use it ever when a Chimera is vastly cheaper.
>>94769512Finished my daemon army yesterday Dunno what I'm going to paint next, probably a knight or dreadnought, those are always fun
>>94769571Uh oh the tourist is mad about tau shitposts again~
>>94769577If no one uses or buys it why should they keep it as an option?
I hope Kroot and Vespids get redesigned to fit my anthrozoophilia.
>>94769586Why are you so horny?
>>94769571uh oh melty
>>94769584I want keep running my 2 Avengers James, if you remove them I'm sending you "fan" mail.
>>94768219>>94768303Thank you both. I've finally started painting the scratchbuilt tank from last summer, beginning with the crew and random bits I left loose to make it easier to work on.To answer the original question, I couldn't point to a specific one but it's always a treat to see box-art Black Legion anon working on a new project. I'd love to see him tackle more custom work, like maybe a daemon prince conversion. I know he has the chops for it as he did some minor GS custom work like the nurgling mechanic for his land raider, and flayed skin cloak.
>>94769583You can get your own tau GF if you travel to Canada and apply for their M.A.I.D. program. Mental illness is enough to qualify. Don't you want a cute tau maid after you get in the cool gas pod?
>>94769611Shut the fuck up and apply medically assisted suicide yourself.
>>94768032This is a small thing, but making the bolt pistol/plasma pistol shoot worse is the dumbest thing 9th and now 10th have done. They also got rid of the sergeant's better weapon skill for no particular reason.
>>94769611It's really funny how easily mad you get
>>94769589I'm not I think my fetish has good ascetics. I think Kroot and Vespids look bad. I think the bugs that are deamons made from rot should look less appealing than the bug people, and I think the anthro birds that are deamons of mutation should look less cursed than than the bird people.
>>94769512reposting my latest Rubric, this time with a white background
>>94769650Damn, son. I hope you aren't doing a full Sons army in that quality because you'll be working on it for the next 7 years minimum. How long did that one model take and how many have you done?
>>94769416>>94769438Got an archive link to that? I'd like to read the meltdown.>>94769448 made me laugh>>94769488 good example. I'm gonna call the satirical homebrew chapter the "Coldsteels" in reference to ColdSteel The Hedgeheg they'll be a satirical chapter of space marines descended from a traitor legion. I'm thinking nightlords. But they'll be designated as Raven Guard. Does GW still do free minis of the month from their store for "newcomers" and when will it most likely be a space marine? I haven't been to a GW store in a long time so I could pretend to be new to the hobby saying stuff like "I saw the Secret Level Animation" or "I played Space Marine 2 and I'm curious about mini painting." If a space marine doesn't show up I might actually just go "fuck it" I'll buy a space marine or a third party not!Space marine set and make my own.
>>94769674They still do free minis and I can't remember the last time it was a space marine
>>94769683Mini of the month, i mean. You can walk into any store pretend you're new and get a marine to paint
>>94769683deathwing knight was in like august or september 2024
>>94769683After making the post I found out that the current one allegedly is an Eldar.I just want to do something different than painting imperial guardsmen. Since the satirical homebrew chapter called the ColdSteels will be Night Lord successors would Night Lords dark blue colours without the lightning strikes be a good starting point? Its gotta be on the nose.>>94769700>You can walk into any store pretend you're new and get a marine to paintLike any time of the year GW has free space marines ready to get newcomers hooked?
>>94769714>Like any time of the year GW has free space marines ready to get newcomers hooked?Usually yes
>>94769650>rubric with flamer>mfw I've been playing SM2>>94769674>ColdsteelsI guess it depends on how overt your deliberate cliche chapter is meant to be, but what about the "Ice-Forged Blades" ?
>>94769718Alright I'll give the Warhammer store near me a phone call tomorrow to see if they have the free mini of the month and if it is a space marine. I just need to find a suitable edgy third party helmet for the job.I'm open to helm suggestions.
>>94769736I kind of want this fun little project to be comically obvious that it is satire.But a piece of me tells me that I'll never properly be able to emulate the edge of homebrewers who are being serious about their edgy homebrews.
>>94769667Here's all I have so far, not a perfect picture but you get the idea>I hope you aren't doing a full Sons army in that qualityUhh I'm just looking to collect some here and there as a side project. But yeah unless I run out of steam I want to paint it all to this standard.>How long did that one model takeAirbrush helped a lot, I think it was roughly 10-15 hours. So not that bad, I think? When I was painting volumes by brush it took closer to 20 hours I'm pretty sure
>>94769776>10-15 hours for one infantry modelI want you to do some real quick math for how long it'll take you to finish the box of 10 of them. But if you enjoy it, go nuts. Your guys look great so there's at least a pay off.
>>94769797I gotta come clean anon I don't play tabletop, at least for now. I just like painting these guys a lot so I don't mind putting some extra effort into it
>>94766962>Had metal Steel Legion for 21 years>Now unusableI straight up do not have a guard army anymore.
>>94769876they literally said just use them as whatever datasheet you want. GW has given you free reign to counts-as
>>94769876>oh no, for 21 years I could use [generic imperial guard rules] for my regiment>but now I will have to use [generic imperial guard rules with cadian in the name] for my regiment, whatever shall I do?!
>>94769863Neither do I anymore, my group all quit after 9th and I have nowhere to go to try and join a new one for the foreseeable future. I only paint as well. but I was pointing out that you think 10-15 hours per infantry model isn't a lot of effort. I can't argue with the results though, so you do you. Have my most recent shitty picture of some of my vastly inferior sons for your trouble.
>>94769891>Does yellow have more in common with blue or red
>>94769876This is why people with autism should be segregated from society.
>>94767969>>94767790Insane how desperate you are to defend this.
>>94769891They have been doing this on thiee site a lot more lately to excuse model retiring. Do tournaments actually go by what GW says on their war com site though?
>>947679694th edition didn't have a IG codex
Not even an Imperial guard player, but I am just categorically against reduction of options in any way shape or form.
>>94769915red, easy
>>94769918most tournaments are far far more generous with what is allowed than GW. as long as you make it clear to your opponent that X model/unit is Y and its even somewhat close to correct it will be fine.
>>94768100Not any more because they totally neutered list building.
>>94769932The options didn't get reduced, if anything they increased.Guard players can represent their choice of regiment via both detachment/subfaction and 3 sets of datasheets for each core unit
>>94769945this. no word of a lie this IG codex is peak, unironically amazing detachments all around (except the tank parking lot)
>>94769915>>94769917cry about it, nomodels
>>94769876>>94769891>>94769915
>>94769876>Had metal Steel Legion for 21 yearsNo, you didn't
>>94769932That's a dumb position, some options are bad an should be removed. (this is not an example of this)
>>94769380The taurox has no firing deck.
>>94769891Except the fact the old infantry squad for Steel Legion has an illegal load out as they have heavy weapons inside the squad.
>>94769958Steel Legion were always more interesting than Kreigs
>>94766962I don't take 40k seriously.
>>94769380to sell 20 year old chimeras obviously
>>94769958And now a Krieger in Steel Legion Colours.
I like how the GW-shills least favorite players are whoever just got their faction gutted. Just month by month, you're a NAZI if you don't like your toys being taken away.
>>94769908>I was pointing out that you think 10-15 hours per infantry model isn't a lot of effortOh I didn't mean it like that, my bad. I know it's a fair bit of time for a single guy but it's not that bad for painting him to this standard, I guess? But yeah I do enjoy it a lot. I saw your guys before btw, I like the different tone of blue you have going on
>>94769992Can't help but notice you never posted your modelsCurious!
>>94769992Guy is truly unhinged.
>>94769992>>94769992Coincidentally, whoever just got their new content seems to be the biggest complainers for some reason
>>94767926No.
>>94770023crude exoskeleton? I thought they had fancy shit
Redpill: krieg were never a steel legion recolour, they were depicted more or less in the style that FW made them from day one. The steel legion models were only used as a proxy because that's the closest they had, but they were never SUPPOSED to look like that.I know this isn't their first appearance, but their first appearance is in fact even closer to the fw.
>>94770050the next line says it's better than marine armor
>>94770050>I thought they had fancy shityou fell for someone's headcanon
>>94770052dont let the losers here know that
>>94770052>krieg were never a steel legion recolourthis cope again lmao
>>94770052>Redpill: krieg were never a steel legion recolour, they were depicted more or less in the style that FW made them from day one....as a steel legion recolour
>>94770052This justifies removing everyone else how?
>>94769975I don't think you're supposed to. It's a game.
>>94770052this is from 3rd editionthe steel legion palette swap was from 2nd
>>94770056Shit can be better than something without being fancier than it.
>>94770067Its just correct. Sorry you heard something wrong first and got attached to it.>>94770071Not arguing for that>>94770069If you're aesthetically blind you don't need to comment.>>94770077I literally inb4d you already.Their first appearance is in a big chart of alt regiments.
>>94770109You're just flatout wrong, you heard some gotcha on tiktok and thought it was the truth
>>94770126Amazing projection from someone who can't think for himself.
>>94770052>>94770077I'd say it's very clear they originally made them as just an alternative regiment for using Armageddon models. Like painting Kodongian Woodland Warriors using Catachan models or Tyberian Forward Troops using Cadians. They just took the Panzergrenadier influence of the Steel Legion and made another German inspired regiment to fill the pages. Later this got expanded a bit where they drew them with heavier looking coats and different helmets, but still kept the folding stock carbines.
Finished my first Mini.What do you think?
>>94770137Anon you actually have to provide evidence of your claim like I have.
>>94770080To illustrate my point.
>>94770160Better than a lot of people produce after doing it for awhile! The biggest tip I can give you is learn about washes. They hide a lot of errors so really help out when you are getting started.
>guard are going to be insanely cracked and ruin the game for 6 monthsMan I know Cruddace is design lead for 10th edition but do we really have to do this again.
>codex is completely broken powercreep on releaseWhy do they fucking do this, it's about 80% of books now with the other 20% being underpowered dogshit on release.
>>94770185the current lead rules writer is a guardfag
>>94770160Not bad for a first mini. Your paint's either a little thick or you sprayed too much primer on some spots, and you definitely spilled some colors where you didn't intend to, the small detail segments being the most obvious.Look into some painting tutorials on youtube to get a better understanding of how to thin your paints and control your brush strokes and you'll be doing better in no time. Duncan Rhodes is a good place to start but don't stop there, you can find good painting tips all over the place now.https://youtu.be/28DbD9JwQCI?si=PkNLs-04xBaST-qY
Why the fuck would they remove heavy weapons from the infantry squad? Did people not like that or am I missing something?
>>947701733rd edition art again lmao
>>94770203post the second edition art.
>>94767804Yes
I was out today, why are we throwing a shitfit over the guard codex? Can I get a qrd?
>>94770216its got some interesting things but a lot of tiny nerfs
>>94770179Eldar book is soon, which will surely be another step up in powercreep
>>94770173are you arguing that they aren't recolours or that they are?
>>94770216Only options for infantry are Krieg, Catachan and Cadian. All generic versions of everything are removed and certain long standing build options such as >>94770202 heavy weapons teams in infantry squads are removed. This coupled with the fact that certain combos seem immensely powerful while being very unfun to play against.
>>94770205There is no second edition art of the death korps because they were a palette swap lmao
Guard, Tau and Custodes are the holy trinity of "when these are really good, everyone else absolutely fucking hates the game"
>>94770236How do we know they are a pallet swap then?
>>94770202because there must be a direct correlation between unit profile and boxed productheavy weapons and infantry squads are different products, they get treated as different units and don't get exceptional treatment because the game must be simplified
>>94770173
>>94770241Shut the fuck up, Eldar Player
THIRTY FIVE POINTS
>>94770241I haven't played against Tau in a hot minute but I've heard 10th did a lot to make them less cancer to play into now. You're 100% right about the other two though.
>>94770242Because the original portrayal of them is a palette swap done using steel legion models :)
>>94770243Shrimplified you mean
>>94770251Grena-Dear God
>>94770216413rd
>>94770232>>94770222So what you're saying is, as someone that doesnt have any guard, this is the perfect time to hop on the train?
>>94770062no I thought since they were smarter and made by the old ones that they would create better looking armor, at least it does say it's advanced >>94770056to be fair that is not that big of a bar, marines have clunky stuff>>94770175yeah I thought their armor look reflected their tech
>>94770242No one ever said they were
>>94770241you forgot knights, eldar and bikesthe three extremised gameplay styles of>gunline>hyperelite>fastAFare the ones that routinely, for one reason or another, break the gamehordes never break the gamemelee never breaks the gamehealthy heterogeneous mixes of unit types never break the game
>>94770251I am in the process of ripping arms off scions to put melee weapons and pistols to be my engineers. I even already have a flamer for em! Now just to pick what to use for the mine token...
>>94770275always. agood time for guard
>>94770241Well,they are the trifecta of cancerous mechanics between "Good indirect, parking lot shooting gallery, and melee stat check wall"
>>94766981>>94767093>we have deathkorps at home
>>94770281>better looking armoran ork's aesthetic sense is different from a human's, and so is an ancient space frog's
>>94770263Yeah 10th made Tau more of a combo thing. Votann took over as the point and shoot with OP shooting faction.
>>94770284>Melee breaks the gameSTRENGTH D WRAITHKNIGHTS
What if we got Sisters of Battle on jetbikes or even something that isn't a named character? or maybe if we're really lucky paragon warsuits that don't have a shit a-pose
>>94770231The drawing has the same style gas mask as the forge world krieg, the same chest mounted filter or whatever it is too.It also has the same leg wrappings and boots and the same stahlhelm with the adrian ridge on top of it.Thanks for proving my point.>>94770203>>94770236Here's the fucking kicker.Steel legion wasn't even in the 2nd edition codex. They didn't exist.Codex armageddon came out a year after this drawing >>94770173LMAO
can't you just run the old DKOK as DKOK
>>94770327Sisters just got nerfed into the ground for no reason whatsoever, don't expect anything new for them for the rest of this edition.
>>94770284>healthy>heterook chud
>>94770337I can dream, anon
>>94770332ya you can
>>94770327sisters get a second wave but it is entirely living-saint related shit with generic psykers and super cherubs/flying aquilas that are as good as minor daemons
>>94770345Cruddace hates them worse than nids.
>>94770306I know but if humans can still call it crude it paints a weird image for such an advanced and superior species
>>94770348then what the fuck is everyone yelling about design wiseare guard players just autistic?
>>94770329>Thanks for proving my point.Your point being that kriegers aren't steel legion recolours because of... leg wrappings?
Scions might be getting deep strike back with an errata.
>>94770372Anon this just sad. Take the L.
>>94770367humans would call pic related crude but it's undeniably more advanced than any weapon they can field
>>94770369theyre retarded
>>94769395
Are valkyrie's shit again?
>>94770385It's 'advanced' because it uses chaotic magic.
>>94770369Because when new models go into production, old ones go OOP.In addition, the old models are in horrible quality resin while the new ones represent a squandered opportunity for those models to get a plastic release.
>>94770382It is sad to cling to shit like skirt lenghts, or boots brands, to pretend your irrelevant gasmask and trenchcoat subfaction is totally different from the other gasmask and trenchcoat subfaction.Even marines are not dumb enough to think they aren't little more than stupidly superficial recolours, they're honest enough to appeal to sales to justify their alt colour snowflakes' right to exist.
>>94770400Necron tech looks like magic too but it's just so far advanced that you don't understand it
>>94770408The cope is just getting sadder.
Thoughts on the following in two chimeras or a chimera and a taurox?5x Combat EngineersCatachan Heavy Weapon Team10x Catachans
How many points do we expect engineers to actually be? I'm thinking maybe 50 for 5,
Are people here actually glazed over retards that can't notice major design differences or is it just bait?
Hilariously the artillery detachment does literally nothing the buff any of the on the table artillery.
>>94770420why the heavy weapons teamthey generally want to sit still?
>>94770421we know its 35 for 5 or 70 for 10
>>94770433Honestly? Feels like the only thing to put in with the Combat Engineers as going for a 10 man on them is a waste of points (they will probably go up to like 50+ points for five). Firing deck is nice for them as well.
>>94770439Anon...we all know those points are worth less than the ones on who's line. I'm asking what they'll actually cost.
>>94770428GW is incapable of balancing Artillery units so this is probably for the best
>>94770400No, it's advanced because it opens a fucking portal, dude is not a psyker.While men are going to use solid projectiles or a laser beam for their artillery, orks are using weaponised force fields, this is advanced, despite being crude.
>>94770450all orks are psykers, their belief something does something makes it happen, this is spurred by the powers of the warp and not their technology level
>>94770448you're probably right about being in the 50-60 point rangeIm curious why you'd run em at 10 man when you dont get any extra weapons or bombs
>>94770463>>>/reddit/Orks cannot break existence merely by thunking it hard enough. It's a light nudge at best. Stop getting your lore from memes.
>>94770463stop mischaracterising orks based on a hyperbolic interpretation of their fluff, or arbitrarily different definitions to otherwise universally accepted terms.
>going through the gaunts ghost series>dude goes chaos then imperial >aruges with a guy who is literally part demon and dripping neon blood>him:"why must we all fight? Why can't we get along?"They really ham fisted that one.
>>94769512waiting for my breaka boyz to turn up but in the mean time ill probably just be painting more boyz or starting on meganobz
>>94768219any oldfags remember scriptarius? I always loved his stuff from way back
How should I paint my next 10 Blood Axe clan boyz?
>>94768219most of the minis that the blue ork anons paintjust about everything that the vintage blood angels / purple anon doesthe tsons posterad mech anonand i admire lamenters painting skills im just not a fan of that heavy weathering
>>94770413nta no anon orks literally use psychic powers to make trash into tech, though unknowingly Ork tech is not advanced, it doesn't even work, it's only in the hands of an Orks that believes it should work that the effect activates and it works, and even that has limitsi think
>>94769610what do you use for your grot / ork skin tone?
>>94770520Paint
>>94770520orange and teal
>still on the hunt for the elusive oil based white ink>go to several art shops>visible confusion everywhere, all staff think i want it for writing on paper>find nothing>get a few inks anyway>notice that the liquidex inks are the same volume as the daley rowney ones but were double the pricethere isnt much difference between the two to justify that is there?
>>94769488>makes edgiest and stupidest possible BA successor on purpose>still sounds more reasonable and less edgy than flesh tearers
>>94770541I think I'd prefer black and cream sloppa instead
>>94770369People are butthurt because for ages you've been able to embed a single Heavy weapons team within an infantry squad and this codex squatted that so anyone who has that setup is SOL. >>94770377Cope, it's gone forever lmao
>>94770465>Im curious why you'd run em at 10 man when you dont get any extra weapons or bombs100pts for 10 dudes60pts for 5 dudes60pts for 5 is still a good price for a cheap easily killed unit. 100pts doesn't really increase their output much but makes them less trivial to kill. Also means nobody is going to run 3 of them at that price.
>>94770520orange urban camo
>>94770528For the Orks: Base VMC medium olive, shade with athonian camo, then feather in 60:40 mix of medium olive and VMC lime green, another step at 40:60 of the same, finally a spot highlight on things like elbows, nails, veins, knuckles, eyebrows lips and cheekbones with straight lime green.The grots start their base coat with the 60:40 mix and follow the same steps up, but the final spot highlight has a bright yellow mixed in to the lime green, around 70:30 in favor of the green.
>>94770463>Secondary think all orks can jusr rewrite reality ona whim if enough orks beleive it near themNo, only weirdboyz are psykers amongst orks, like how not all eldar are psykers
>>94770520darker skin tone than usual, darker greens / camos for the clothes, maybe darkish reds and greens for shoulder pads & helmets
>>94770521>the tsons poster>ad mech anonthis is the same anon btw
>the new Ork models look just like the orks I described in the gay erotica I posted on deviant artYou don't think...
>>94770369>are guard players just autistic?Yes>do they have a point with their bitching this time?Also yesSpergouts are sometimes justified.
>>94770564this image gave me lung cancer just looking at it
>>94770570oh it is too, i shouldve recognised the black background on all of his photos
>>94770243It's still really odd to me that they're so autistic about units only being able to take what's in the box but then let havocs take any number of X weapon they want
>>94770575thats a funny way of saying they look based
>>94770231>different helmet>different gas mask>different respirator>different/no gloves>different boots>putteesAnon you are the dumbest, blindest motherfucker on Earth.
>>94770586They're completely schizophrenic about adhering to their own rule for this sort of thing. It's maddening.
>>94769968It literally has firing ports modeled on it.
>>94770627No it doesn't. Plus the firing deck on the chimera is the hatch that opens up entirely so passengers an shoot out like an open top vehicle.
>>94770586Oh thanks for pointing that one out anon. We'll restrict havok options in the next errata!
>>94770637They're right here anon.
>>94770543There's no such thing as an oil based ink you retard, we've already told you to just go buy a white oil paint and thin it
>>94770657WRONG
>>94770653Those are pee holes for long drives
>>94770627>>94770637>>94770653WE JUST HAD THIS FUCKING ARGUMENT LAST NIGHT
>>94770680They made me recheck the catalog to see if I was in an older thread. Deja vu.
>>94770672That's not an ink, that's a thinned oil paint for retarded people who can't wrap their minds around adding white spirits to an oil paint
>tfw getting abused by phoneposters againwhen will it stop
>>94770685it acts as an ink though
>>94770329Holy owned.
>>94768219>>94768219The comfy blue ork stompa in his toque and scarf is my favorite
>>94768219RIP
>>94770727lol what a fagspent so much money on his army and commissioned art of it only to sperg out over the femstodes.He will not be missed.
>>94770727I liked his models. May he rest in skibidi ohio.
>>94770680And it will happen until the model with fire points gets firing deck.
>>94770757>>94770769Did he died!?
>>94768219The one based on a vtuber
>>94770775Nah he just rage quit
>>94770775Nah, as soon as the femstodes were revealed he sperged out and announced he was selling off his shit. Haven't seen him since so it's likely he actually stuck to his word.
>>94770782He was just ripping off the band-aid before marines get the same modern audience treatment. Can't blame him.
anyone got the csm pdf? wanna see it before I get into the army
>>94770782based
>>94770775He had a meltdown about wokies encroaching on his hobby space despite previously admitting he only painted at home and only played at one friend's house
>>94770795>implying wokies are not in fact encroaching on our hobby space
>>94770808God what a fag. Most imperials barely have enough food to survive. Why would they waste resources on making a normal imperial nobody a tranny
>>94770795>admitting he only painted at home and only played at one friend's houseGo ahead and poke fun at him for his melties, but sorry what? Are you the fucking hobby police? Do I need to have my card stamped with a minimum number of visits to the LGS paint night and RTTs, officer?Fuck off.
>>94770825>Imperium can barely survive>Why are they wasting resources on XAnon thats the point of the whole setting
Grimdark mechanicus HRT factories
>>94770864Crude imperial prosthetic genitals with aquilas engraved on them.
>>94770846No you can hobby wherever you want, but to claim that his hobby spaces were being invaded by wokies but only playing in a friend's home, and only painting at home makes his claim of invasion untrue and impossible
>>94770864Imperial bureaucracy mistake forcing the entire population of a hive city through the gender reassignment surgery.
>>94770860The point is 10 years ago he would've not inserted a tranny in his writing, it's all for show
>>94770870Alright, I get that perspective at least, even if it is mildly disingenuous itself. Is this site not a hobby space?
>>94770357>Cruddace hates them worse than nids.I hate Cruddace so much but I hate Sisterfags more than him. I'd rather he ruins both our books than both of them be good.
>>94770864Imperium forcefully transitioning women into men to boost their combat performance.
>>94770790https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/163O45I6fASoRy1UHnODzYsOH6SpPVf6N
>>94770870NTA, but books are part of the hobby. If I was more into fishing where I would read books and magazines about it and suddenly they started talking about how to cast without your dilator falling out or crap like that I would consider my hobby being invaded lol.
>>94770879
>>94770870permanently online people tend to fall for shit like this
>>94770888No, because you can just stop looking at your phone or computer and it goes away. Noone sees your face, or can judge you for your previous actions
>>94769330Test
>>94770864Trannius, Magus Sexmechanic of the Ordo Gendermanipulus, subsect of Divisionis Biologis.
>>94770077>the steel legion palette swap was from 2ndThe third armageddon war, and the entire steel legion as both a concept and a miniature line were all created during third edition.This image (and the second page with the Death Rider) was done shortly before that, in the original (first of two) 3rd edition imperial guard codex.
>>947708884chan is not your safe space, faggot. Go to to twatter if you want people to care about your victim complex.
>>94770937Honestly 4chan is no one’s safe space. It is not safe. So technically the fags should be here too if it triggers you, therefore I welcome them.
>>94770937>I said faggot do I fit in yet guise
out of all the communities I'm in40k has the most amount of people with the worst fucking reading comprehensionI'll state a point about something and then they'll respond with something that reiterates the same point I made but explaining it as if I didn't understand itthis has happened like 5 times today, I've never seen anything like it
>>94770870Fuck leftist communist faggots, they ruin everything they force themselves in.
>>94770959but enough about the politics of the guys the founded GW and wrote 40k
>>94770958Stop being so wrong that we have to explain your own theses to you.
>>94770958I know what you mean. /tg/ is inexplicably dumb.
>>94770937I don't have FF anon's problem, shitstick, but I am intelligent enough to empathize with differing perspectives.
>>94770977No you're not. You're just buttmad that someone for "your side" is being laughed at in what you think is your safe space echo chamber.
>>94770977>>94770985Samefag
>>94770986Double fag.
>>94770972But not you though. You're special. You're not like those other anons.
>>94770985You are so severely mentally ill. I have never seen anything like it.Btw this is the same guy constantly demanding people who post models, trying to demonize any fanbase that complains about anything, etc.
>>94770958Yeah, dude. People in online discussions don't fucking read anything.
>>94770997>gets called out>can only sperg out in buzzword soupIt's all so tiresome. Same thing, day in and day out/
>>94770993Yea I am.On other boards I'm average. But on this board its all different.
>>94770993Exactly
real nomodels hours
>>94770961Since when are homos and trannys what 40K has always been about? And all the forced diversity?
I've been away from 40k for a while and thanks to jewtube algorithm I discovered that your queen left GW more than a year ago>leaves GW for mystery reasons>boo hoo quirky panic grill>makes gorillions with YouTube Essay™ videoswhat happened, /40kg/?
>>94770860>average imperial works on his own miniscule task as a gear in the imperial machinery>mostly manual labour>those above you pay you with barely enough food/thrones to survive, if you're lucky>they dont care about you, you are just a resource made to meet production quotas>somehow the powers that be santiction your mutila- I mean transition and spend resources and time on fullfilling a belt line worker or miners delusionYeah I know this is supposed to be retarded space fantasy but come on
>>94771002I have an excuse. After so many pointless arguments I now skim posts for keywords to see if I should ignore it. It's my fault for using boards like /v/ and /r9k/ or going on other soical media sites. I'm just tried of seeing literal paragraphs of useless shit.
>>94771029Being an artist employed at GW sucks ass, the pay probably sucks, you can't be credited for your work for your resume, and GW has increasingly clamped down on letting individual presenters become little micro-celebrities within the community in a post-Duncan world which is a shame because I bet Duncan Rhodes helped more people learn how to paint GW products than every other employee combined for the entirety of Warhammer's history and created a lot of good will between players and the company. But I digress, Suggs probably just found a better opportunity elsewhere.
>>94771066they let that fat ugly british woman appear on camera now
>>94771073>fat ugly british womanYou mean a british woman?
>>94771073More like they don't really have a choice. They're literally getting what they pay for.
>>94771073And no one knows who the fuck she is and most of their shit is locked behind warhammer + anyways. The closest thing they have to an "brand ambassador" now is Adam Troke and all they let him do is host prerecorded model reveal events that piss everyone off because they've been consistently terrible since the Black Templar / Krieg / Kommando reveal show.
>>94771073>appear on camera nowI thought one of the reasons suggs left was because GW stopped showing the painters' faces so they can't get famous and leave GW to become competition anymore.
>>94771010Actually tho
>>94771073>fat ugly british womanGorthor Brown?
>>94771126Bad decision, I bet Suggs being on Warhammer + was enough to get at least a couple hundred people to sign up for that year.
>>94770329>>94770382>>94770418You're wrong, steel legion were firstyou plugging your ears screaming LALALA I WIN TAKE THE L doesn't change that fact, redditor
does adding gloss varnish before decals actually help?
>>94771271Yup
>>94771271Yes. Gloss varnish guarantees a smooth surface without any imperfections that can trap air under the transfer.
>>94771271Yes but you should get Microsol instead, it's the same result for less work. GW decals in my experience are really good and the gloss varnish is overkill.
How much of primaris is going to die come 11ed
>>94771271I dont do it i just bare back onto the paint then cover with matte varnish, sits well enough
>>94771344At the very least anything that was in Dark Imperium that doesn't have a newer multipart kit that replaced it, will die.
>tfw actually excited to for the weekend so I can paint all day
>>94771375what will you be painting, anon?
>painting Death Guard for the first time in 6mofeelsfilthyman
>>94771344firstborn are going to be fully squatted, the primaris keyword is already gone
Do you realize how utterly depressing it is that humans have the home field defensive advantage, positioning, and manpower in nearly every battle... and they lose constantly? Most Ork Waaaghs start with Orks throwing asteroids full of boys at the planet and whoever lives basically starts building their empire, logistics, and equipment from scratch. Its the equivalent of having an hour to turtle and build your defensess in Starcraft and then get absolutely BTFO in every game.
>>94770329that image is from the 3rd edition second guard codex released in 2003codex armageddon released in 2000
>>94771410>and they lose constantly?Define constantly. Humans stack more W's than any other faction in the setting due to their protagonist plot armor.
When I was like 14 or so I wrote a fanfic where a team of inquisitors were sent on a world infested with chaos cultists and genestealers, it followed the leader of the inquisitors as he slowly becomes unhinged and violent as he's corrupted by Khorne, an underling who plans a coup to oust him as a Tzeentchian plot, and a woman who's slowly being transformed into the genestealer patriarch's wife. It's been deleted for about a decade now, should I rewrite it? I'm off for half of next week for some reason.
>>94771344As in they'll stop making Primaris models and revert to older short marines in non Mark X armor? Zero chance. It's the midgets that are slowly being erased.
>>94771430sure, sounds retarded enough it might loop back around into being kino
>>94771430When I was 14 I wrote a fanfic where a pariah Ultramarine became Captain and teamed up with General Sturnn from Winter Assault to fight a Word Bearers daemonic summoning until the Grey Knights showed up and tried to purge the Cadians, but the Ultramarines protected them because they respected Sturnn so much.
>>94771430When I was 14 I wrote a Mass Effect style teamup between SM, IG, Eldar, Tau, Orks, and Necrons against my Dawn of War CSM. I had a color scheme for all of them and had them do big bot matches in Dawn of War.
>>94771393Meganobz most likely, maybe start a battlewagon
Is the story being advanced in any way yet? Do we know what uh Fulgrim is doing? I want to see but like, how do I tell when the main story is being advanced?
>>94771498>Do we know what uh Fulgrim is doing?The Eldar tried to stop him from manifesting but Lucius killed enough of them to summon Fulgrim into realspace. Fulgrim then perma-killed Karandras and immediately forced the Eldar into a full retreat. Many Craftworlds seemingly vanished from their already obscure territories and the Eldar have evidently disappeared from the galaxy at large.
>>94771525>Source: My Ass
>>94771529Where's Karandras' model, anon?
>>94771530Karandras will be back from getting milk any day now.
>>94771430Yes so long as you go into great smutty details about the woman who's slowly being transformed into the genestealer patriarch's wife and her breeding program of the cult
Excuse me, sir? Why don't the Eldar just fuck off to another galaxy? I get they don't want to abandon the Crone worlds but they have planet-sized self-sustaining ships. Surely fucking off from the Milky Way would be preferable.
>>94771545They literally cannot exist without spirit stones. They're a cucked race.
>>94771545>"[we] shall diminish, and go into the west">4th Tyrannic war erupts on western galactic plane>"shit"
>>94771545Thats effectively but the Deldar did, but they're reliant on the torture of mortals and they absolutely have to have chattle or they die. Craftworlders are utterly reliant on spiritstones, which means they have to be near the Eye of Terror. There isnt much beyond the galaxy and if the nids are any idea, its not any better. So they're stuck. They're a doomed and dying race thats the whole point. Its GRIM and DARK.
>>94771545Addressed at the end of the Beast series. There is no point for the Aeldari to leave cause Chaos would follow them or bee where new galaxy they end up because Chaos knows no limits.There is an example of a craftworld that left the galaxy. It still got invaded by daemons.
>>94771545Eldar are noble and couragous in their own way and will not abandon the exodite eldar who they feel they owe a debt to, to extinction and extermination. They will not give up the dream of the eldar race somehow finding a way to continue living free from Slaanesh
>>94771577>>94771553None of what you said is true.Drukhari can quit their lifestyles and be something else. It's not unheard of for the Drukhari to switch to any of the Aeldari cultures.They don't need spiritstones. It's not the reason why they don't leave. The reason is that it's pointless. Chaos cannot be outrun. You can't escape Chaos because the Warp is everywhere.
So I've painted up 3 different armies, and have even played plenty of games against myself. How do I actually play a game against someone else? Do you just show up at a flgs with an army? I tried that 3 months ago and nobody there had 40k models, they were just playing magic and digimon tcg.
>they squatted all the flyers except the ValkyrieaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>94771619You need to show up on a 40k night. Ask the LGS owner what days the 40k crowd usually shows up on. Come in on that day and chat with the crew there. Most have a discord where they schedule games and talk about the hobby.
>>94771607A dark eldar who kicks the torture habit will still need a spirit stone. It's why leaving the Dark Eldar is virtually impossible. They have to convince a Craftworld to give them an unused stone, which is something most Craftworlds don't keep just laying around.If they don't have one then they're doomed to be consumed as soon as Slaanesh so much as glanced their way.
>>94771545>Why don't the Eldar just fuckThey didn't make a path for having sex so have to figure out when to work it into their other paths.
>>94771644No. The Mike Brooks novel mention that there are Drukhari who joined Craftworlders, Exodites, Corsairs, Ynnari and the Harlequins. It's not impossible. Maybe hard because it's kicking an addiction but it's possible.Aeldari do not need spiritstones to live. The soul drainage of the Drukhari is due to their activities, not the lack of spiritstones. Corsairs carefree, lifestyles despite wearing spiritstones, have them suffering the same symptoms as the Drukhari in the long run.
>>94771623>expecting good things from a new guard codex everit's really fun that I have to revisit my entire list because stormtrooper command squads won't have deep strike anymore
>>94771664>The Mike Brooks novelSecondary source for Eldar lore. Not to be taken seriously.
>>94770284>melee never breaks the gameCeramite hands typed this post.
I thought Spirit Stones literally just capture the Eldar's soul when they die? Why doe they also need to be near the eye of terror?
>>94771688Also, there is another Mike Brooks novel that says that Drukhari souls shine dimly in the Warp. So dim that psykers can barely register them. Basically, their souls are as large as the T'au souls. They are tiny. I speculate If they stop being pricks, Slaanesh and his daemons might not detect them.
Completely finished my first miniatures. I've painted a lot of necrons so far but haven't finished the bases on them because I'm afraid to commit to something that I won't end up liking. I just went ahead and did astrogranite on these with the intent to repaint the bases later if I end up not liking it. I can't do the fine lines very well, specifically those black recesses on the blades, but I'm just glad they're done. I'm excited to be moving on to the Skorpekh Lord, who is the whole reason I picked up necrons in the first place as he's my favorite model I've seen so far. I've been holding off on painting him since I wasn't confident in any method for painting good necron blades, but now I feel like I got a good way to do it so he's up next.
>>94771700The material used to create spiritstones was spawned into existence by the Eye of Terror shredding the walls of reality during its birth. The material rained on the crone worlds afterward
>>94771631Thank you for being sinciere, anon. Appreciate it. They have a discord I think, I'll check there.
>>94771705Looks great, anon. I will get back into painting on the weekend as well.
>>94771700Tears of Isha can only be found on crone worlds - worlds that were near the center of the Eldar Empire and were subsequently consumed by the Eye of Terror.
>>94771723What models are you planning on painting?
Are we not going to talk about how the Votann aka Ancestor cores are very similar to the Infinity Matrices in that they house the minds of dead Kin? And how the Kin of the Leagues of Votann have their own version of spiritstones but they are way rare and cumbersome to use?What was GW thinking when they created the LoV?
>>94771705Anon, those are stupendous for first miniatures. Great job!
>>94771746Thanks dry brushing and washes do 90% of the work tbqh
>>94771739Tau. The three paints on picrel arrived yesterday for the base colour scheme. Going for a variant of the classic ocre with a darkish blue for the shaded areas as a contrast. For kroot I have dark green/dark red and for the vespids I have yet to think of something.
>>94771824>Painting his Tau orange and teal
>>94771830teal is a bit of a stretch
>>94771741Who?
>>94771830>tealAnon I think you need to get yourself checked for colorblindness
>>94771830I used orange and teal on my Tau and I thought they turned out OK
>>94771867he is just meming because of orange teal SM anon, don't take it seriously
Just finished off my unit of Zoans! Genuinely loved painting these dudes, looking forward to the next set of them I'll be doing. Had a blast with the green brains, and the head carapace was REALLY friendly to my amateur edge highlight attempts.To Do (T-7 days):-3x Zoanthropes-1x Neurotyrant + Neuroloids-1x Haruspex
Has the afterlife for the faithful to the emperor ever been described?
Why the fuck did they make sentinels 3 units to 2jesus
>>94771889Servitors
>>94771897these new rules are pants on head retarded
>>94771867Tau hooves, in need of edging correction!!!
>>94771889No. Official ecclesiarchy dogma is - upond death the souls of the faithful go to the Emperor's side, at the foot of the Golden Throne to be protected from harm for all eternity.Realistically, random mortal imperials just die and their souls disintegrate into the warp becoming a part of it.
>>94771705good job
>>94771897I don't know why, but I have noticed that in addition to the forced box loadouts mandate, a new mandate seems to be "Every unit will be built with 1-2 kits, maximum." Doesn't matter if it's 3 man, 5 man, 10 man, or squadroned vehicles.
>>94771943hmm I actually didn't think of that one, that actually makes a lot of sense
>>94771867I can't tell if your weathering is supposed to be metal wear, or just dirt and splatter to match your basing. If it's the former, I think you've overdone it a bit. If it's the latter stuff like dust, or runoff from mud splatter, tends to find itself settling in cracks and crevices which means the fact that yours is less prevalent in those areas than it is on open, flat and easily cleaned surfaces feels unnatural.
>>94771943This seems to be the case. And like...good.
>>94771953I read it as the rust-ish color being the base and the blue-ish being verdigris
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>>94771360There's nothing in dark imperium that doesn't have a refreshed kit. Even all the characters have standalone versions these days
>>94771619>>94771717If they have a discord I'd prolly just drop a message there saying you'd like to get a game in sometime in the next couple weeks and was wondering if anyone wanted to play
>>94771705Looks great anon
>>94771705These fucking suck
Why do people pretend anyone ever used fliers and pretend to be mad that the IG codex is getting rid of them
>>94771881I see you did another stab at the glow, it looks much better than the drybrush you had before
>>94771881These fucking suck
>>94772119Yeah, I was much happier with the swap to just a flat green over the drybrush. Not sure if it entirely comes across as a glow, but honestly it just looks good so I stuck with it!
>>94769251Jiren a shit
