It should be illegal to make product this bad.
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If you mean the pots, I agree.
>>94774357Bait? These pots are horrid, literally designed to be inoperable as fuck, waste you paint and dry out so that you buy the product™ anew.Through some fucking miracle virtually all of the competition has dropper bottles, and to my knowledge most of them are tight enough to last about a decade unused. Imagine being outdone by Army Painter, of all companies.
>>94774357This m8 has been r8ped
Behold, the worst citadel product ever produced.
>>94774587>Cheap airbrush but with a gimmick handle that makes it way worseThat's fucked up.
>>94774346GW's entire business model has always been designed around selling bad products.This isn't anything new.
>>94774480Most of the paints are dogshit too desu, the rest is mediocre, or St least was before they updated the formula and now everything is horrid
>>94774646Tbh spray pistol grip airbrushes are a thing and are pretty good, not that piece of shit though
>>94774346Some are great, some arent great.
>>94774346Citadel paints are pretty good. It is the pots that make them bad.I firmly believe that paint pots can be done right, and GW paint pots are not paint pots done right. Just try to branch out from the Citadel paints ecosystem by testing paints from other paint lines and only get paints you really like from various lines of paint.
>>94774346No. It should be illegal to price bad products that high, though.
>>94775193The paints are mostly pretty decent, most acrylics are on par with one another these days.>>94774346I'll agree the pots are kind of crap compared to dropper pots, weird thing is they're probably more expensive for GW as well. I haven't noticed them drying out particularly (I have several bottles which are years old and are fine) but they do cause wastage by paint going into the lid. I was never sure whether I'd waste more paint trying to decant them into screw tops...
>>94774346> Be old fag> Decide to sell old warhammer stuff that's in parents loft/attic> Find two dozen old citadel paint pots I would have purchased at the latest in 2003> Most of them are still good
>>94775238>Some are great, some arent great.Opinion far to reasonable for here.No-one has a paint range that is entirely good. They all have good and bad paints. Committing to one brand exclusively is stupid.
>>94774346show me good yellow
citadel is only ever acceptable to own in a few scenarios>you're brand new to the hobby and unaware other paint brands exist, fell for the GW marketing >occasionally buying a technical painteverything else = retardation, if you see someone who is a more experienced hobbyist still using shitadel paints you should laugh at their underdeveloped brains subject to consoomer brand loyalty memes
Name a bigger scam
>>94784990QRD?
>>94785373NTA but it doesn't actually look like rust that much by itself, it's basically just a generic rust-brown colored enamel ink you can probably buy elsewhere or mix yourself for much cheaper. All the marketing photos are done up with lots more paint and techniques, layered over with other drybrushes, have texture applied separately, and mixed with darker washes to make it look more like rust effect, yet they act like that's what the product looks like by itself. Pic related is what it actually looks like by itself on a model, looks like shit.
>>94785416I see what you're saying. Looks like it's something meant for model rail, rather than minis. The "scale" is off.
>>94784598my lgs stocks citadel and i like to support them
>>94785416idk that looks pretty rusty
>>94785423it's definitely more suited for tank treads and whatnot, but the price is insane>>94785433not overly, it just looks like slightly gritty brown paint. You can achieve the same result even with citadel typhus corrosion, except there a pot costs $5 instead of $30
>>94785448>except there a pot costs $5 instead of $30It's because Dirty Down is a small UK product and if you live outside of there you get absolutely fucked by shipping costs. For example https://protechgames.co.uk/search?type=product&q=dirty+down has it for £8 which is closer to how much that should cost. > You can achieve the same result even with citadel typhus corrosionNow this is some absolute bullshit to the point I have to assume you've never held a paintbrush. Typhus Corrosion is fine enough for texturing, but you aren't going to get that level of color variation right out of the bottle, assuming the pot doesn't dry half-way through. At least respect yourself enough to use AK's rust effects which starts brown and will last an age if you use it for minis since it comes in a huge pot with a screw-on top.
Great paints, terrible pot
>>94784990The best rust effect I have seen was a guy that put some old screws in vinegar to reduce them to clumps of rust then mixed them into matt varnish. Looked like real rust because it was.
>>94784990The only scam is that it is like 6 hearty carcinogens in a bottle with a tiny little warning label.Free cancer, except you have to pay for it.
>>94774587>>94774646GWfansissies will buy it just because it looks like flamer.
>>94785416Nah mate, it's some really clever chemistry mixing a semi stable enamel with a powerful oxidizer and oxidizing pigments, the downside is that it contains industrial VOCs that should be only be used with industrial PPE. It's trash, but not in the way you think it is.
The good citadel paints are very very goodThere's some shit ones though and the pots are trash
>>94785423Iiirc, it's actually relabeled set dressing paint designed to be used to make props and scenery grimier.
>cant wait to do some painting toda-
>>94774346These pots are way better than the vallejo metal colours pots, those ones get filthy and splatter paint when you close them.
>>94774646More than that, they sold cans of compressed air to actually operate it with.
>>94796120i think thats more to do with the water thin consistency of the metal color paints themselves rather than the pot design
>>94796120In general I've had disappointing results with vallejo. Of the paints available here in Korea they're usually the most expensive (₩4,200) after the citadel ones (₩10,000) and in my opinion don't do anything better than the cheaper AK (₩3000) and Tamiya (₩2500) paints.Personally I just use army painter game-master and speed-paints that I can get in bulk sets from importers, but I'm only painting minis for RPG campaigns. The gunpla guys have this fancy enamel shit they use for their stuff, I've used it for lining and stuff since it is dayglow but I don't know what it is - some japanese brand that isn't tamiya.
>>94796117Honestly I think the pots were designed precisely so that the shade paints will spill and customers will have to buy a new one. That or get another one because you forgot you used a metallic paint and now your shade pot has metallic flakes visibly in it.Droppers are just superior and whatever problems droppers have are miles better than the inconveniences that pots can have.
>>94784990>>94785416You know what. I'll just stick with heavily watered down brown-orange paint to be my rust.https://youtu.be/dvlvzXaEmso?t=569At least until a proper acrylic rust paint is shown and proven to be good here or at WIP if I even feel like asking there.
>>94797128Literally a skill issue.
>I now remember when I fell for the "GW so bad! Everything else so good!"-meme and bought a bunch of Vallejo paintsNever making that mistake again lol, citadel all the way
>>94797278Vallejo have some great paints though (I haven't tried the new formula like)Pale Sand, Cavalry Brown, etc etc
>>94797278Model Color Black is one of the greatest paints ever made.
>>94797278>Procryl>Reaper>Two thin coatsBlow them outta the fucking water. I hear cuttlefish paints and army painter are great too but can't comment myself.
>>94797268No it aint. It is a deliberate design issue to create a problem so they can make some extra change. >>94797278Vallejo paints have fallen off if you bought the new formula ones. Get AK, Pro Acryl, Two Thin Coats, or ArmyPainter. People keep saying that Vallejo paints have an issue about bubbles and honestly I believe them.
>>94784545It's in there, OP is a retard who never paintedd anything
Real niggas just use artists acrylics anyway, who the fuck in their right minds fanboys over any of the "specialized" "hobby" paint brands (with a premium markup for suckers) LMAO
>>94797397No they don't lel, the mediums used for painting on canvas aren't great for miniaturesSome inks yes
Did anyone tried Vallejo mecha paints?
>>94797779I've heard that their metallic paints are great and that the formula (hopefully) has not been touched.But the guys at the WIP general are definitely more likely to have a proper answer for you, and if no suggest something better.
>>94797471Shut yo ass up cracka
>>94797278The great thing about non-gw paints paints is they're cheaper and you get more so if you get a bad one it doesn't fuck your wallet as much.>spent over 400 bucks on gw paints since 2022NEVER AGAIN
>>94798019>spent over 400 bucks on gw paints since 2022Get on my level anon I didn't keep count but I spent more money than that on paints in less amount of time. >bought Vallejo game color new formula paints>got too many bubbles and tried AK paints>loved AK paints and threw away Vallejo new formula paints>bought a lot of AK paints>tried new ArmyPainter flesh coloured paints>loved them>bought the AP flesh coloured paints>now trying out some proacryl paintsThe funbucks I earned back in my teen years (been working since 16 am 25) is starting to dry up as I just worked but didn't know what to spend my money on and since I wasn't paying bills in my teen years the money just piled up.
