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What do you think of the Hatchetman -3X?
>>94781459Ironically, much better in tabletop than in HBStech
>>94781454>Major Kong editionMore like remember love edition.
Are Superheavy mechs a boondoggle, or do they have any good qualities worth using them for?
Skin the bears!
>>94781564Most superheavies are a boondoggle. The Omega's niche is putting a crazy amount of firepower on a C3i equipped body to leverage that advantage. The Ares is weighed down by bad fixed equipment but has good configs, particularly the Zeus, Hera and Apollo.They also are very cheap for their firepower in C-Bills and BV. Most Ares configs are actually cheaper than a Timber Wolf, even ignoring Clan cost modifiers.
>>94781564As a class? Not really. Up to 130 tons you can make them 3/5 and very practical, if inflexible, super-assaults. Above 130 tons, you're effectively restricted to 2/3 and making a giant PPC/gaussboat if you want it to actually be useful ever.As a group of canon chassis? Mostly, yes. All but one of them is too slow to be generally good.
>>94781564>>94781600>>94781655Design me a superheavy scout.
>>94781600mad cat prime only has higher BV with a clan pilot
>>94781694You cannot make a superheavy faster than 4/6 and cannot give them JJs. You're not getting anything better than a fat banshee.
>>94781723Make it so.
>>94781689>Federated CombineOh boy, another fedcom.
>>94781564>>94781655Anti-swarm seems to be their calling.>>94781689As all things should be.
>Belters resists Clans longer than RepublicYour excuses inners?Also, I am not sure that giving Elementals (exclusively vatborn humans) to new SLDF and Goons
>>94781723I forget, can they use MASC or is the rule no movement upgrades, period? Anyway, "scout" might not be in the cards but a superheavy could work as some kind of mobile command center. Take minimal weapons and cram it with as much support equipment like probes and ecm as possible.
>>94781694>Design me a superheavy scout.If you don't mind ancient rules, there's the Hi-Scout Drone Carrier, which could act as a template for that.
>>94781745You're not going to do much scouting with it.>>94781783No MASC, no superchargers.
>>94781783>a superheavy could work as some kind of mobile command center.The third seat in a superheavy tripod provides the same bonuses as a Command Console, including +1 Initiative, so the Ares variants have that covered.
>>94781694you asked for itdesigned to operate in heavily entrenched battle-lines and in cities where strategic-level reconisance became less important than tactical information, the bascilica was designed to force enemies to reveal themselves and/or flee a position.intended to be deployed as an anchor-point and command unit supported by a large number of other units, it boasted two beagle-active probes, comms gear, and a remote sensor dispenser for scanning prepared positions, as well as a 20 tonne bay and extra crew for remote drone operation (drone sold seperately). should it find an enemy position, the 'mech carried a long tom supported by master-C3 and targeting computers to ensure accuracy and enough internal ammo bins for 20 turns of firing, should support vehicles be unable to approach and supply fresh ammunition. defensively it relied on superior tactical information and its escourt to defend it, but should it be forced into a direct engagement it boasted 23 tonnes of armour as well as a suite of experimental systems including chaff pods, a blue-field particle dampener, an ECM suite, full head ejection and three ER medium lasers mounted for maximum coverage (L arm, R arm, CT (reverse arc) )The bascilica was never deployed as it was only developed as a counter-intelligence operation. despite this it performed well as significant resources were spent in logistical movements, artillery fire and drone deployments to mimic the presence of the "superheavy recon". for several weeks assault lances faced confusing and disadvantageous deployments until the ruse was eventually uncovered. this thing would be so much less stupid if i had just spread the same equipment package over a lance and not paid like 30 mil C-bills for a naval-grade fusion engine
>>94782108Drone OS means it can be controlled as a drone, not the other way around. A mech needs the Remote Drone Command Console to act as a controller.
>>94782189>Drone OS means it can be controlled as a droneWhy the FUCK does the module weigh 20 tonnes then?
Something I came up with looking at those "reseen" versions of other anime mechs on Battletech Future. I can't be arsed to properly stat it just now. Based on a GT Bit psychically controlled drone mobile suit from Gundam X.>MRT-2Xd Marionette DroneMech>Developed by the SLDF in the 2510s as a prototype for a remotely operated BattleMech. After numerous attempts to build a fully computer controlled model resulted in unacceptably poor performance against manned aggressors in test battles, a remote operated version was developed, controlled by a MechWarrior using not only an advanced neurohelmet but also a full motion capture suit, as there were no space constraints on the user's freedom of movement. This, combined with the mech's relatively light construction (45 tons at a time when the Medium weight class had yet to come into its own) resulted in unparalleled agility, rivaling even the Capellans' smaller Firebee and the Marionette made quick work of any and all opponents on the testing range. The 'Mech was armed with an AC/10 mounted to the Left Torso and swung around to an underarm position in use as well as two Medium Lasers in the Center Torso. Due to the MoCap interface, these weapons were activated by voice command. Individual operators would set their own commands through the voice recognition system, though "Breast Fire!" seems to have been a particularly popular one. Unfortunately, despite promising early showings in a controlled testing environment it wouldn't be long before several issues with the DroneMech made themselves known. Because Hyperpulse technology had yet to be perfected at this time, the communications delays imposed by the speed of light meant the large, expensive and delicate control suite would have to be present on any planet the Marionette was operating on, a particularly daunting task as processing the complex control signals effectively required large amounts of sensitive digital electronics which were prone to cosmic ray damage.(cont)
>>94782531>The extreme sensitivity of the equipment needed to interpret these signals was also an issue under battlefield conditions. Any signal disruption caused by enemy ECM or even poor weather conditions, not to mention battle damage to the electronics, could not only stop the 'Mech dead but cause it to topple over from the disruption of its balance systems. A redundant lidar receiver was also installed that would allow for more reliable control from an FOB or command vehicle, but it required line of sight. While these issues were bad enough, the final nail in the coffin came from the reaction of the growing MechWarrior class themselves, as when word of the Marionette's development got out many were incensed at what they saw as an insult to their noble calling. This was the period in which the Lorix Creed was beginning to gain traction among MechWarriors, who saw themselves as spiritual descendants of the armored knights of old and had no desire for a return to the "dehumanized" warfare of the pre-Ares Convention era. One particularly devastating blow to the DroneMech program came during a joint exercise between the SLDF and CCAF when the Capellan MechWarrior Trang Khruschev opened a communication channel with one of the Marionette testers and somehow convinced them to pull their sidearm on their commanding officer. In the end, the combination of technical and social issues proved to be more than the brass was willing to deal with and the Marionette's development was canceled.
Phoenix Hawk IIC or Highlander IIC?
>>94782668>Phoenix Hawk IIC or Highlander IIC?They have two totally different roles man. What are the details?
>>94782668I really want to know wtf the clans were smoking when they came up with the Phoenix Hawk IIC
>>94781454CAG-Control to Major Kong,CAG-Control to Major Kong,Pylon Missiles, signal strong.CAG-Control to Major Kong,CAG-Control to Major Kong,Turning Keys, Warheads On.CAG-Control to Major Kong,CAG-Control to Major Kong,Ignite Torches, Launch from Bay!Case Amber's live, get in the Fray!WS Target Vector 6-30-49,Nuke that Feddie Barron and you'll do fine!
So is it safe to assume Wolves plot armor passed to nuSLDF?They were beaten by FWL, by Dragoons and now exRAFs.
Why didn't the Capellans make an Arrow IV Carrier variant of the LRM Carrier after 3044?
>It took both Clan Invasion and ilClan eras for people to realise that Star League always was a villan faction
>>94783141So Amaris, ie; Space Hitler, did nothing wrong?
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>>94783184Yep. Star League is a disease manufactured by bunch of canadians.
>>94783141The star League is the ultimate good, if headed by it's rightful and most benevolent true successors: the Word of Blake
>>94781704>Not putting at least a 2/3 pilot in your front line omnimech.
>>94783294based
Good news! You've come into possession of a bunch of mechs and are able to startup your own mercenary company! The bad news? It's all Shadowhawks. It's 3025 and not being a fan of the standard 2D and 2H configurations, you assign a task to your mechtechs; to come up with a variety of custom loadouts that you could field instead, with an emphasis placed on upping the armor of the Shadowhawk. What do you tell them to go with for the re-fit? Or do you show them your own design and chew them out for their ineptitude? Or do you just abandon the startup completely, deciding that the Shadowhawk is a lost cause.2H-J0: This tech decided that the JJs needed to go completely, but otherwise left the Shad largely unchanged. A lot of ammo bins leave your mechwarriors looking nervous while looking at this model.2H-J1: We need proper jumping! JJs have been added, but the AC/5 has been downgraded to an AC/2. The LRM5 was replaced with an SRM6 for better brawling. The J1 can fight from any range, but still won't be doing much at any range.2H-J2: Let's brawl! More JJS! Get in close and use your combination MLs and SRM4s to light 'em up! The lack of any long range support makes it feel a bit less Shad however, but that could be a good thing.2H-J3: Minimal changes. Let's ditch the LRM5 and SRM2 so we can upgrade that AC/5 to an AC/10! More armor, less ammo bombs, but less versatility.2D-6J: 6 JJs for maximum jumping to let it get in close and unleash with it's 5 MGs. It'll be great for clearing out infantry, but it really needs to get up close, more so than other versions even.2H-AC20: Just stick an AC20 on it! That's all we really need! Big gun for big boom, but nothing else. Packs a punch, but don't you dare miss your shot.2H-LL: Forget the missiles boss, get them out and the MLs and we can stick a LL on it!! Great long range support, but aren't we just an imitation Enforcer at this point?Well Commander, what's your order?
>>94783462You can't afford the mods.
>>94783462>5/8/6 in 3025Illegal design.
>>94783462Drop the JJs and SL on the 2H-J3 for another Ml and another ton of ac/10 ammo and you have fairly brutal brawler.
>>94783508
>>94783184The only thing he did wrong is not preparing failsafe mechanism to compromise Terra's planetary coreBut true solars will take care of this with all clanners cornered on the planet and scaried of the void
>>94783508Alright, fine, it's legal now.
>>94783141All government is evil, yes
>>94781775That’s because Belters are based
>>94783927Give it time, more furries will latch on to them like they did with canopus.
What might have been the reason that MW5C didn't do so well?
>>94783968MW5M did not do it for me, and the dlcs were overpriced and didn't fix the main problems. So I decided not to even try with MW5C.Calling it MW5 immediately connected it to the muted reception to MW5M
>>94783968They do it because the economy's been doing great under Biden and they know they'll be able to realize explosive growth under Trump. Just gotta create a leaner, meaner and hungrier structure to really bite down on the chances that are to come.
>>94783968Apparently people were confused by the name and thought it was another DLC.Also it was clans so no one gave a fuck.
>>94783968The game was crashing my PC on release. It took months for them to release an update that fixed this. I'm not going to support that kind of crap. It's on my list of games to go back to at some point, but I'm in no rush.
My questions is- do I have the funds for retrofits? Can I fuck with these Shads hardcore? Because the quirks on the Shad are damn near perfect.>>94783462>2H-AC20: Just stick an AC20 on it! That's all we really need! Big gun for big boom, but nothing else. Packs a punch, but don't you dare miss your shot.A Shad could easily carry an AC/20 with 10 rounds at 5/8/5 with nearly 10 tons of armor- that's a better design than I think you realize.
>>94783968I didn't buy it because it's a linear campaign, and I don't have any interest in that.
Are there any mech designs that have a missile launcher as a ring around another weapon?
>>94784449Orion?
Hey Map, I know you like your French Predread's. Heres a Mech version I cooked up whilst enjoying a pint at the pub.As with any true pre-dread its got a nice main battery in the turrets, a medium battery in the main casemates with good arcs, and a tertiary battery for deterring small craft at close range studded about it. And of course it is Fr*nch so it has a nice, tall, narrow, silhouette. And hotel-like crew quarters.
>Goliath, Mackie, Scorpion, Ymir and GladiatorWhich faction would run these mechs in 3025? A museum?>Wonder if I can dump these to Tyr Resistance Movement army
>>94784456That seems to be the case for the ON1-M, but the art is fucking awful
>>94784456The SRM is not actually located in the arm, according to the crit diagram.
>>94783968I knew it would be broken on release despite them having the first game plus DLCs under their belt, so I didn't buy it. They also should have gone the extra mile if they insisted on calling it MW5 Clans but ofc they were tight asses. We got a single linear campaign that doesn't integrate at all into the first game, a limited amount of 'mechs, and the same old enemy spam to make up for a lack of creative mission design. Just asking to lose money, and it did. Minimally viable product = minimally viable sales, you get out what you put in.
>>94784551Oberon Confederation, Barony of Strang
>>94784551Goliath and Scorpion are both in regular production, they just have a bad reputation. The Gladiator is some reenactor's Wolverine customization.
>>94784449King Crab -010 is described as having its torso PPCs ringed with the SRM 6.>>94784563ON1-V and VA have dual SRM arms.
Come to think of it, why didn't CGS make the Goliath IIC and the Scorpion IIC?
>>94784730Build some and post 'em.
>>94784449Crossbow W?
>>94784551Like the other anon said, the Goliath and Scorpion are still in regular production. The Mackie would be mostly a rare sight, but there'd be a couple still kicking since the TH were producing them up until the Amaris Civil War. The Gladiator is mostly gone, but there's probably a couple still running in the Combine.The Ymir is pretty firmly extinct, you won't find it outside of an IS museum. Keep in mind this is all regarding the IS, you could find a few Janky, ill-maintained examples of all these mechs somewhere in the Periphery.
>>94784768Was surprised that that Banshee actually has a canon RS
>>94784768>The Gladiator is mostly gone, but there's probably a couple still running in the Combine.The Combine's the least likely to have any, whatever's still around will be from the second prudction run from the Hegemony.
I want to make some mercs from the Arkab planetsAre there any unit types (lancers, hussars, dragoons, for example) that have origins in Muslim or Arabic words?
Map-scale Overlord for /mydudes/ arrived today. Kind of stoked to get paint on a model this big.
>>94785054Mamluk, Maghreb, Qizilbash, Zamburak, Sipahi, Akinji, Ghazi.Camelry
>>94785054Sipahi (Sepoy, for ya all Anglos) and Akıncıs are the heavy/light cav of the Ottomans. Other turcic states used Deli, which would be the equivalent of the Forlorn Hope-type cav formations of german tactics.In any case, this kind of information is easily available from Wikipedia.
>>94785099Mercs shouldn't be able to afford military dropships. Send it back and apologize.
>>94785054There's the Janissary, the first standing army in the world. They're Turkish, so not quite the same culture as the Arkab, but still a unit originating from the Muslim world.
>>94785054I search Age of Empires 2 faction-specific units and techs for historical naming inspirations
>>94785175mydudes have the Argo so fuck you
>>94785054The Malassay were an elite cavalry unit from a Sultanate that was situated in the Horn of Africa, active for around 500 years
>>94785175They weren't always mercs, Karen. Calm them tits.
>>94785175Poorfag Gray Death Legion had two Unions and a JumpShip.
>>94785054ZouavesThey're light infantry.It's originally from a Berber tribe IIRC
>>94785170>Sipahi (SepoySepoy comes from sipahi, but there's a small gap between colonial Indian infantry and Turko-Persian professional cavalry.
>>94785426It's the correct SL English term.
>>94783968It was based on Operation Revival. For the Inner Sphere it was a desperate fight against overwhelming odds and makes for a good video game, MW2: Mercs. For the Clans it was wading through trash mobs and dealing with freebirth trickery and makes for a mediocre game, MW5: Clans. Ultimately it's a typical PGI game, good bones but hampered by shitty design philosophy.
>>94785612If PGI wasn't so dead set on doing the timeline in the exact order they could have done a different era of Clan war. Operation Revival is way more interesting from the Spheroid side.It's sad. A game around the bidding system of the clans could be interesting.
>>94785569The two words mean completely different things.
>>94785792>Operation Revival is way more interesting from the Spheroid side.Protip: players don't like losing.
>>94785802But the IS ultimately won eventually. Being the underdog is way more fun. Plus you get the gradual progression of your outdated equipment slowly gaining parity with the Clantech via salvage and the research done to make it work on IS mechs.
>>94783968This: >>94785612PGI is a terrible company. Russ Bullock is a shit CEO and I blame him personally for everything wrong with that company. He meddles, or at least he used to. During MWO, at one point the company was doing a community round table on Twitch and he showed up about an hour late and he was drunk and rambled nonsense. Which is about the level of professionalism that company has always demonstrated. They routinely put people with no idea about their game in charge of development & balancing, and lied to everyone about what they were intending to do with the game. It took until MWO was absolutely dead for them to finally bite the bullet and hire on a handful of passionate players & to actually listen to the community. The only thing PGI has done successfully is to milk the BT fanbase for money with MWO mech packs & MW5 DLCs. They're a parasite clinging to the IP.
>>94785054How about Fedayeen?
>>94784475Needs a heavier secondary battery, about a 4:1 ratio.
Just sent in my second shrapnel submission. If anyone else is looking to submit, the queue is only 46 stories long at the moment, so the wait will be much shorter than normal.
>>94785829If the IS won terra and like half the inner sphere wouldn't be owned by clanners.
>>94785829Find me 20 people who want to play a campaign that is 90% losing and then a strike on Twycross.
>>94781564I found the Ares to be okay, but thats more because its a tripod mech benefits then anything else.Theres worse stuff you can spend your BV on for sure and playing as a giant robot that smashes shit is pretty funny.Oh and it can take a Gauss/CERPPC to the face and still be a menace.
>>94786233Twycross was a chump win that benefitted nothing; Wolcott was a win that claimed tech spoils for the Dragon and a sacrosanct world behind enemy lines to stage counterattacks from. Wolcott is the victory worthy of study.
lol, seriously? This is why nobody likes a Marik.
>>94786584
What do you call it when I know where all my opponents are at all times, but pretend I don't, while they are only aware of my mechs when their mechs can see them. Single Blind?
>>94786514True. It’s actually interesting how the AFFC had a massive reserve of RCTs at the front and never used them and basically never accomplished anything, while the DCMS hemorrhaged regiments but actually killed a few clan galaxies.I guess the death of the Falcon Guard was impressive.
>>94786658>I guess the death of the Falcon Guard was impressive.For an accident, certainly. No one knew in advance the Guards were even on-planet.
>>94786514Wolcott was a great victory, but it's kinda ironic that the samurai were able to win by lying.
So back in the day before flechs, sarna, MML, or even before every mech variant had an official record sheet and handwritten blank sheets copied from a stat block TRO were more common, how common was it for people to "accidentally" fudge their sheets to give themselves an advantage or decide to create a custom without telling anyone?
>>94786746They figured out the Clanner game first, and used it.
>>94784585Main issue is the focus on Omnimechs only and not letting the player use other Clan Mechs or issorla captured from the IS.People would have been jetting to run a Marauder with Clac spec weapons.Also no call backs at all from the characters of the last game. Having your star facing off against an Aged Mason would have been pretty cool. Huge missed opportunity there.Oh yeah and the game being unoptimized at launch for basic machines. Though I blame this more on the new unreal engine everyones been using.But I also despise the Unreal Engine and wish people would stop using it.
>>94786756>the characters of the last gameI mean, it's not like they had any character traits
>>94786634You mean a symbol that shows you have no self respect.
>>94786756There's a couple of returning characters actually, but they were only in the Dragon's Gambit DLC before. Probably trying to get people who only had the vanilla version of MW5 to buy it.
>>94786776It's okay to admit your fear the Birb
>>94786840Why would I fear an enemy who can't even build PPCs?
>>94786514>>94786658How many notable battles were there besides twycross, wolcott, and luthien? Seems like the IS was still getting steamrolled pre Tukayyid.
>>94786845Talk when you figure out how double heat sinks work
>>94786875Battle of Radstatd was a major battle and an extremely important one.
>>94786875Tamar, Rasalhague, Alshain, Radstadt
>birb>dragunI choose frauge
Say you are out in the periphery and you have a BNC-3E. Money's tight, you're your own tech, and communicating with the local astechs is a game of charades. Your PPC is on the fritz, because the locals left the inhibitor unplugged, and your biggest gun, the only PPC on the planet, is destroyed.If you pull the large laser from the Goblin you destroyed earlier to use as a replacement, do you HAVE to make up the tonnage difference somehow?
Why are mech designers so bad at coming up with things that make sense? The original 15t flea gets absolutely mogged by this. Weren't XL engines common in the mid 2500s when the original flea prototype was made?
>>94786920You can field under-tonned mechs legally, but there's never any advantage to doing so. May as well slap some extra armor plating or a few more medium lasers or whatever on there.>>94786923People in universe can't see the construction rules.
>>94786923>only 5 armor>in an era where medium pulse lasers existProbably the biggest waste of 2 million c-bills. Hover/VTOLs are more expendable and a locust is more survivable.
>>94783927I wonder will CGL remembers how bad Clanners are supposed to be at space warfare.
>>94786960The original flea predates pulse lasers by about 80 years.>>94786934I mean yeah but like, > one medium laserWhat were they thinking.
>>94786972That makes no sense, the SLDF-in-exile were kings of space combat and Clanners came from them
>>94782531Part of the idea with those designs is that we’ve got mechs from a dedicated faction for a faction with them. For example, the Leo’s are used by the smoke jaguars, the zaku’s, while originally JarnFolk are more commonly used by the DCMS, and the rx78 Amuro and GM is a fedsuns unit, and the Maganac is a Liao unit. Im not the French Canadian myself, but I’m just one of the guys whom occasionally whips up units for him. If you look at the bushman, I’m the guy whom built the retro tech version of the bushman, and did the sheep of kentares units (though just a warning, the links to the sheets may be a bit off on that one, I’ll post the sheets if Anyone wants them)
>>94787056Absolute schizobabble.
>>94787069Eh, I expected this kinda response. I’ll just lurk more.
How the fuck do you deal with fast moving mechs? If they're blazing across the map and making things 10+ to hit without range modifiers, they can get anywhere and I can't fucking hit them. That's even if I can even see them because they can always get behind me. Can't increase my gunnery, can't use another fast mech, can't even use pulse lasers because they're still moving fast as hell.
>>94787056Before I lurk moar, I should have linked to what I was talking about>Leohttps://battletechfuture.com/2024/07/29/oz-06-leo/>zaku’sHere’s the 1https://battletechfuture.com/2024/08/20/zaku-ms-05/Here’s the 2https://battletechfuture.com/2024/08/21/ms-06-zaku-ii/>maganac https://battletechfuture.com/2024/08/13/wms-03-maganac/>And finally, the gundam rx78https://battletechfuture.com/rx-78-amuro/
>>94786752It kinda helps that they didn't even need to know what the hell a Batchall was to accept arbitrary duels.
>>94787051>the SLDF-in-exile were kings of space combatOnly because none else had so many warships>and Clanners came from themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r5QN_xrbM0
>>94787134I like the idea, don't get me wrong, but Zakuski are already a thing in Battletech. The Horned Owl, which is a Clanner light mech.
>>94786972That's why ASD bothered to recruit the Ravens.Elementals in Aerie armor clearing out asteroid settlements room by bloody room would be sweet.
>>94787119You’ve got layers of proportional response, and “proportional response” available.Simple answers you’ve mentioned already… so it’s time to get a little…excessive…Option 1: assuming the target has no jumping, and the environment naturally has chokepoints, you can always choose thunder LRM’s. This choice thusly will cause the mech or land vehicle to have to deal with a reroute around the landmines. If they go through these landmines, they’ll take leg damage. This adds up quickly, as that means now your legs are taking up to 30 damage if walking through 3 hexes of LRM-20’d thunder LRM’sOption 2: TAG+ARROW IVAs it turns out, having a cruise missile to the forehead tends to hurt survivability. It’s not the best answer, but hey, it’s a fun choice. Option 3: Precision ammo. Autocannons kinda get interesting when there’s an easier chance to hit with something decent like a 10. Option 4: davey crocket arrow ivWell, at a certain point the nuclear option has to come up…>>94787190Fair enough, this is just his way of adding more content to the game, with decent actual art already made he can pull from. In hindsight, with that gundam tabletop game being announced that makes the stuff certainly more fortuitous. Oh, and I forgot to link the sheep of Kentares!https://battletechfuture.com/battletech-alternate-timelines/battletech-vengeance/factions-of-battletech-vengeance/sheep-of-kentares/Just a warning, the wolverine and I think the goblin tank link to the enforcer they have for some reason. Enjoy btw, I made the sheets for these, I like the blackjack the most, because mini warhammer/crab is fun. I’ll try and get HeyTeeEn to update that one, but I’ve tried to get that done thrice.
>>94786875Falcons were actually turned back at one world, maybe Pandora. Notable in how rare that was. And the Dracs actually blunted a few Jaguar attempts at sixth wave during/after Tukayyid.Nothing earth shattering but some Clan clusters were lost.
>>94783205>Where do you work out Yoshikage?>At the library!
Speaking of Kurita, circa 3025 aside from Panther, Jenners and Dragons what was the DCMS known for mech-wise?Talking variants, designs common to them even if they didn’t build them, that kind of thing. I believe they had an Atlas factory and maybe one for Quickdraws and Lancelots.
>>94787321Here’s that wolverine, I’ll post the goblin as well. Wolverine WVR-9DSKBase Tech Level: Standard (IS)Level Era --------------------------------------------Experimental 3055+ (Clan Invasion -)Advanced - Standard 3154+ (ilClan -) Tech Rating: E/X-X-X-DWeight: 55 tonsBV: 1,517Cost: 9,151,665 C-billsSource: (Unknown)Role: SkirmisherMovement: 5/8/5Engine: 275 LightDouble Heat Sinks: 11 [22]Cockpit: Standard CockpitGyro: Standard GyroInternal: 91 (Endo Steel)Armor: 184/185 (Standard) Internal Armor ----------------------------------------Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 27 Center Torso (rear) 8 Right Torso 13 20 Right Torso (rear) 6 Left Torso 13 20 Left Torso (rear) 6 Right Arm 9 18 Left Arm 9 18 Right Leg 13 26 Left Leg 13 26 Weapons Loc Heat --------------------------------------------TAG HD 0 Large X-Pulse Laser (Q) RA 14 ER Medium Laser CT 5 Flamer RA 3 ER Medium Laser RT 5 Streak SRM 4 LT 3 Streak SRM 4 RT 3 Ammo Loc Shots -------------------------------Streak SRM 4 Ammo RT 25 Equipment Loc ----------------CASE II RT Quirks------Cramped CockpitExtended Torso TwistCommand MekUbiquitous (Clans)Ubiquitous (Inner Sphere)Protected ActuatorsImproved CommunicationsWeapon Quirks-------------Large X-Pulse Laser (RA): Jettison-Capable Weapon
>>94787372The Quickdraw was a Kurita mech in that era, yeah. The Atlas was another. They had their own Warhammer variant, and they had the Catapult K2 as a unique thing no one else really had many of yet. They also had a tendency to take mediums and yank the jump jets off in favor of more gun.
>>94787372Chargers
>>94787378Here’s the old gobbo!Goblin Infantry Support Vehicle SnubbyBase Tech Level: Standard (IS)Level Era ------------------------------------------Experimental 2695+ (Star League -)Advanced - Standard 3132+ (Dark Ages -) Tech Rating: E/X-X-X-DWeight: 45 tonsBV: 976Cost: 5,024,975 C-billsSource: TRO: 3058Role: JuggernautMovement: 5/8 (Tracked)Engine: 225 XLInternal: 25Armor: 197 (Ferro-Fibrous) Internal Armor ---------------------------Front 5 49 Right 5 39 Left 5 39 Rear 5 31 Turret 5 39 Weapons Loc Heat ----------------------------------SRM 6 TU 4 Snub-Nose PPC TU 10 Flamer FR 3 Ammo Loc Shots ------------------------SRM 6 Ammo BD 15 Equipment Loc ----------------CASE BD Carrying Capacity-----------------Troops - 4.0 tons
>>94787390Also they made the fuckin weirdest trebuchet in existence,
>>94787467Also they made a hermes II with two large lasers, and my personal fuckin baby, the archer 2k, and the warhammer 6k. For examples of the “drop the jets and double the guns” look at the wolverine 6K, and the abomination that is the Phoenix hawk 1K. For a medium I think they need more credit on, they had the whitworth, aka the best budget fire support you can get. But all these tend to kinda show how they operate in that era.
>>94787483And Hunchbacks galore
>>94781454What's the reason (in universe, I get the balance reasons) that Gauss weapons have minimum ranges? Like, it's just trowing a chunk of metal really hard, it's not like it needs to arm or stabilize a particle beam.
>>94787485I think with this list you kinda get what their lineup is like in that era. It’s a decently mobile frontline of hard hitters, with a supporting slower rear line that will come in and fuck you up hard, typically while firing either PPC’s or LRM’s on the way in.
What is the dropship used by comstar/WoB for their levels? Not seeing a modified leopard for instance
>>94787529They don't have a dedicated dropship to transport a single Level II. Either they field normal Lances of 4 mechs, or they transport two Level IIs in a Union or equivalent.
>>94787513Sheer mass, recoil, and energy demands. If you fire a shit ton of lasers and a good old Gauss rifle, you’ll see a noticeable delay from the Gauss rifle.
From IRL standpoint, what is the biggest bullshit ubertech used on a battlemech? The armor?
Lore question.Would Cauldron Born a suitable mech for commanding officer or it's rather a grunt mech not command machine?
>>94787601Probably the compact, lightweight, efficient fusion engines.
>>94787601The myomer. Battletech's entire tech base is predicated on large humanoid robots being made highly efficient thanks to extremely high strength, high durability, high efficiency synthetic muscle structures.Everything else is second to that. Battletech requires this for the Mackie to exist and since the Mackie exists, it's a tautological setting requirement.This thankfully also shuts down any argument about it, because its existence is assumed by the setting.
>>94787540You would think they would get one set up for a six man level II. But as you said, a union can work to transport two. Less tactical flexibility though unless you consider maybe going in via drop pods. Though unsure if there is one modified to fit six in the chutes because if I remember, the only ones are set up to drop 4.
>>94787607It's a front-line Omni. Why wouldn't it be appropriate?
>>94787645Artificial muscles that are far more efficient than human ones already exist, and continue to improve. It's not the asspull people around here make it out to be.
>>94787654It's the scale anon. We cannot make several meter long bundles efficient enough to justify most normal scale robots, much less giant walkers. Being more efficient than human muscle is not sufficient for Battletech, they need to beat out virtually every other kind of motor we've ever dreamed of.And because they do, we have battlemechs.
>>94787134>>94787321>>94787378>>94787399Opinions on these btw?
Wonder if they do vaginal/anal muscle surgery with TSM in Canopus
>>94787784All shit. Not since the 3067 abortions and WoB nonsense has there been such a stench in the game. Shameful. >>94787792And then there's this bitch, because someone had to prove things could get even more wretched.
>>94787547why don't the lasers have a minimum range penalty then
>>94787822Flashlights don't get weaker the closer they are to what they're shining on, the speed of light is the speed of light right from the start.
>>94787645>>94787644>artificial muscles and fusion engines are more bullshit than completely made up FTL teleportation
>>94787839Neither do gauss slugs, what do you mean?
>>94787846FTL and myomer all fed from fusion. Without fusion, nothing in BT would work as described. Immense, efficient power changes every game.
>>94787866Fusion is theoretically practical. Kearny-fuchida drives are pure fiction handwaves to allow FTL travel in the universe.
>>94787846Anons question specified tech used on battlemechs
>>94787856A solid shot needs a push to reach optimal velocity, as per laws of motion and thermodynamics. Light has its own laws.
>>94787513>>94787547Early on the idea was that minimum ranges on ballistics were because of long, unwieldy barrels. Since the art wasn't consistent, this didn't really stick around, and now it's just there.
>>94787896Gauss slugs are at sufficient velocity once they leave the barrel.
>>94787887Well there is at least one battlemech that carries an HPG generator.
>>94787846You seem to be under the impression that because I defended my choice, I have to.I am under no such obligation. FTL is a staple of most soft space-faring science-fiction; it has no obligation to make sense to you if it facilitates the setting handily. Its existence is entirely to have more giant robots shooting lasers at each other and punching.
>>94785835damn that's so crazy and shocking that a sizable company working on battletech hada piece of shit subhuman in charge, thank god we got CGL!
>>94787822Lasers typically aren’t charging up capacitors to fire.
>>94788099Being inexplicable, infeasible handwavium is what makes something bullshit or not.
>>94783968On my end I have a potato computer. MW5M worked, but they increased the specs past what I could do for some odd reason. Bet I am not the only one
>>94788189they did something similar when they discontinued the 32bit client for MWO
>>94788148What are you talking about? CGL is a great company! Look at the wonders they have done for BT and Shadowrun to make it a great game. The heads of the company are also wizards with their budget so we can afford more great content!mpkys
>>94783968I haven't played any of the mechwarrior games but have always kept an eye on them, so I'm probably the kind of person they're trying to reach.And the issue is that they've released nothing but barely passable products for years. You'd expect a franchise to iterate and grow, and after years and multiple releases even a shaky product will eventually refine into the golden standard release. And it just never happened lol, each game has the same kind of complaints. "It's not great and it doesn't work well and there's little meaningful content, but it's fun with mods and it's not like there's anything else!" and that's clearly not good enough to draw in new people. At this point just scrap it and hand it over and see if someone else can do it better.
This sparks my noggin, Which company did a worse game? HBS or Piranha?
>>94787653>Why wouldn't it be appropriate?Because it's too utilitarian and expendableTo upheld position of Star Captain would require some Heavy-Assulat mech, not "slightly bigger medium"
>>94788233Piranha IMO, but HBS isn't perfect either.
>>94787813If it makes you feel better, we killed off fox patrol early on.
>>94788239At least HBS tried to correct themselves with DLC
>>94788258Not an excuse. If you can't do something perfectly the first time, then don't do it at all. Battletech should never had had video games. They're all shit and all the people they've brought into the game are shit.
>>94788313Mechassault was perfect though
>>94788313>If you can't do something perfectly the first time, then don't do it at all.lmao
>>94788233PGI at least made an effort.HBS are some of the worst grifters I ever saw.
>>94788313I had amazing fun with Mech Commander 2
>>94788344I hated mechcommander 2, the first game was better.
>>94786776>symbol that shows you have no self respect.>oldest of the Successor States>the only Successor State which still fights Clans menace
>>94788411Never played the first, so for me MC2 was GOAT.
>>94787190there needs to be a trooper 'owl'. a clan 55 ton mech, (not omni because expensive) that is just decent armour, mobility, and has a jettison capable nice autocannon for its right arm. i am thinking cuac 10. NOT making it an omnimech lets it keep its hands.Hmmmm...the Spotted Owl? Thorned Owl?No, Tawny Frogmouth. yes. the Tawny Forgmouth.so we can have our zaku's and have them mass produced on the cheap.
>>94788448Or you can keep your Gundam shit in your own game
>>94787378i LIKE that wolvy
>>94788245Did you kill them off because it made sense for the narrative? Or did you kill them off because you don't like the author?
>>94781454where's this from?
>>94788453Hmmmm...No.
>>94788313Videogames are the only reason Battletech still exists you retarded grognard.
>>94788499Then Battletech should die.
>>94788515You should kill yourself instead.
>>94788498There are reasons Gundam wasn't a setting BT cribbed from.
>>94788456There’s crazy shit like that all in that “sheep of kentares” list. Like a 5/8/5 blackjack 3 armed with snubbies, 2 medium lasers and small Xpulses. Because fuck you, we got a surplus of 225XL’s from saber Omni fighters and nefarious dealers. We have a rifleman that’s armed with 2 heavy PPC’s based off the 5D. The whole idea with the forces of the sheep of kentares is basically taking clan invasion era Davion mechs and rebuild them as if a bunch of zealots focused on purifying the world got them.
>>94788524Sometimes the advice you tell other people is the advice that you need to follow
>>94788448Goshawk/vapor eagle?
>>94788535Oh, also the achernar, but that’s a mech I kinda made that’s something that I’m still working on. Basically it’s the prototype schematic of the original enforcer (the one without the large laser). That one I’ll see if I can’t squeeze in the variants I’ve already made.
>>94788448Battletech should expand carryable weapons. They're in a weird place where you can use them and they can be useful but no one bothers, so loads of mechs have these complex articulated human hands that they only use for a melee buff.>>94788530I think the reason is "it wasn't in the art deal" because if it was you absolutely would have blocky zakus and head crests on your mechs.
>>94788589Tilting at windmills. Battletech has been moving away from that since FASA.
Respect the Jaguar.
>>94788663Ha ha, no. Enjoy being Annihilated.
>>94784014>and they know they'll be able to realize explosive growth under Trumphow will they do that when all the tech jobs are taken by your new indian neighbors?
>>94788671Wasn't that guy on the left in Gurren Lagann?
>>94787321>Battletech Into the Future
>>94786233The solution is that you keep winning, but everybody else can't pull their weight.With that, the bad AI has become a narrative element of the game.
>>94788663Respect the ja- BAHAHAHHAHAYou are the embodiment of what happens when you only use stick. You’re gone, your genetic legacy is gone, the only thing that remains is your mechs, and those are piloted by your murderers
>>94788485Black Pants Legion YT Channel, Tex Talks Battletech Warhammer.He talked about the Baron warship there.
>>94788704>the only thing that remains is your mechs, and those are piloted by your murderersClan Wolf despise Jaguar mechs. They even armed their pet Jaguars with exclusively wolf mechs
>>94788663No
>>94788718Clan wolf? No, I mean the draconis combine, and most of the bulldog forces. The savages whom you once wanted to conquer use your technology, and your homeland is gone from memory, and access. The only things left to you are to be mewling kittens, only entertained by clan wolf.
>>94788620"moving away from it" it'd still be there, even with bandaids over it. It's just weird to act above something when the main reason it's not part of the DNA of the setting is because it wasn't on offer.
>>94788761All "Jaguar" mechs now bring glory to the Dragon!
>>94788777Indeed.
>>94788777>AllNot exactly.>Warden Clans are now have more Jaguar mechs than nuCSJ
>>94788233The piggy was bad, the piggy is still bad, the piggy will continue to be bad. PGI is run by grifters. Never forget their attempt to clone star citizen, and how they completely ruined mwo multiple times
>TAGThis has always bothered me. Why is the medium range 9? It's range bands are 5/9/15 instead of everything else in that bracket which goes 5/10/15. Is there a reason or story behind this? It boggles my mind
>>94788235Don't forget he is slower than his Inner Sphere counterpart and cannot jump.
>>94788944>>94788949>>94788954I see what you did there.
>>94781454Major Kong?!?
So after reading Trial of Bloodrigh and Redemption Rites is it safe to assume that Clans days are numbered and they will simply be replaced with SLDF, which is now have ultimate plot armor for the following centuries of BT universe?
>>94789121Kong is a religion of peace
>>94789012Why is the Wyvern getting ignored by the devs? Neither CGL nor PGI; Not even an art update for this poor sod
>>94789161
>>94789161Its dommy mommy energy was too high.
>>94787513I like to think that the gun drive motors for fine tune laying have a lower gearing on long range guns, allowing for finer adjustment at range but making them sluggish at responding to close in threats.
>>94788993>Don't forget he is slower than his Inner Sphere counterpart and cannot jump.So he's white?
>>94789246>EBON Jaguar>whiteAlso Jags are the least white people in the clans, possibly in the whole setting.
>>94789276Who's white in BT anyway? Even the Davions are soulless subhumans.
>>94789280Not the lyrans, they've got too much Italian.
>>94788993The IS counterpart to an ebon Jag weighs 65 tonnes with a jumpy 6/9? What mech are you on about?
Condor Dropship:Bay 1: Vehicles (20 Light), 1 doorBay 2: Infantry (12 foot platoons), 1 doorBay 3: Cargo (1,651 tons), 0 doorsIf I want to carry 3 heavy vehicles on this dropship, can I convert 6 of the light vehicle bays to heavy or do I need to convert all 20 to 10?
>>94789297You can do whatever. All interiors in BT effectively are Hammer Space.
>>94789012I need a Wyvern for my clanbuster collection, but I don't really like the IWM sculpt.
>>94789365Printer goes brrt. There's at least one good model available on cults.
>>94789291>The IS counterpart to an ebon Jag weighs 65 tonnes with a jumpy 6/9? Ninja-To, Grand Dragon.Not jumpy but faster
>>94788530Horned Owl
>>94789280coreward confederacy
Anyone know how to get rid of this dropdown always being open?
>>94789280Taurians
>>94787390>>94787483Seems so counterintuitive to pull jump jets. Especially when they main mechs like the Panther and Jenner.
>>94789491The Wolverine's jump jets were failure prone and a pain to maintain, for the Cat the jets are traded for the sinks needed to cool the PPCs, only the Pixie is done without any apparent reason.
>>94786756I can't blame PGI for limiting tankborns to frontline omnimechs even if it wouldn't go down well with people used to a smorgasbord of 'mechs. But I can blame them for not knowing how to make a good, functional game out of the box after 10 years and then selling basic features like MP as DLC
>>94789122I think it's still up to be revealed who is the most precious writter's pet. Clan Woof or ilKhan Charles and his Third Star League
>>94789804Third star league? Quick! We need to free Taiw ... Saint Ives
>>94787846Any multi-system setting is going to require an FTL option. It's not fantastical, it's mandatory.
>>94789560They dropped the jets for sinks. That’s not a bad (?) compromise in some ways, but it’s still got the lacking head protection the Phoenix hawk is known for, so prepare to have some “fun” with that
>>94789870A handwave being necessary does not make it stop being a handwave.
How bothered would you be if you weren't allowed to use mechs without jump jets anymore?
>>94789830I don't think it will end well for at least 2 clans
>>94789902That seems like an odd requirement. I don't mind JJs, but if you'd made them mandatory to every mech in the setting then I'd argue they'd need to be improved to compensate. Maybe an improved JJ system based on the original prototypes that got destroyed, giving the JJs the same weight as the original, but with the benefits of I-JJs
>>94789902Fine as long as JJs are reworked to use % of tonnage instead of arbitrary cutoff points for their weight.
So what's stopping people from replacing e.g. one 52.5 ton 400 rating engine with two (hell, three, one in each torso) 8.5 ton 200 rating engines given how empty most introtech mechs are?
>>94789804It's pretty obvious that Alaric is trying to undermine all clans so none of them will posses threat to him and Star League.>Threw Ghost Bear into civil war and suicide attack on strongest IS military>Threw Snow Raven at FedSuns >Left CJF and CW to be punching bag for Goons, FWL and LCW and buy him time to reorganise SLDF>keeps CSJ as his Night LordsSea fox are barely a clan so they don't posses any threatLiterally Crazy Kat+ plot armor
>>94789161Maybe it's one of those designs they just don't like and want to pretend never existed, like LAMs.I guess you could say they want to kill Wyvern.
>>94790172Ghost Bear will be able to handle the Dracs at end of day. Always have been able to wreck face against them, and if there is a clan that never really experiences loses it is the Bears.Dracs are going to be curb stomped fairly easily anyways after they lost the tongue super quick already.
Have the clans decided not to be stupid with their Scientists and allow them to work on civvie tech yet?
>>94790291>and if there is a clan that never really experiences loses it is the Bears. Everything happens for the first time, including mistakes.>after they lost the tongue super quick already.They've traded it for inner stability and AFFS offensive capabilities.Dominion Divided already stated that Bears runned into logistical issues after capturing only 3 systems.
>>94790291>and if there is a clan that never really experiences loses it is the Bears.Except they weren't fully clan since abjuration. Now they were forced to adjust themselves to Clans norms and reinstate castes with diehard clanners in charge.
>>94790291>if there is a clan that never really experiences loses it is the BearsIt's due to their nature of careful planning. They're basically like the Magistracy. They have their moment of early-installment weirdness where they are hasty and suffer some minor losses (Revival for the Bears, Andurien war for Canopus) but otherwise they aren't reckless like other factions.>>94790427>abjurationAlong with the Falcons, Wolves and Ravens lmao. Get back in your grave, Brett.
>>94790517>Get back in your grave, Brett.Except abjured clans also consider them barely different from Wolf in Exile and Nova Cat
>>94790537>Except abjured clans also consider them barely different from Wolf in Exile and Nova CatWho are you quoting?Which clan adopted a Spheroid to become khan first again?lmao
>>94790543>Who are you quoting?>saKhan Ragnar Magnusson: Tp put it more simply the Nova Cats and Exiles are not Clan in name, just in culture. They are too far gon down the Spheroid path....>saKhan Samantha Clees: [snorts] Look who is speaking quiaffThis.But to continue the point, Alaric wouldn't let any successefull hybrid state of Clan and Spheroid to exists, because it will be too solid and too big to rely on him and his Star League. Besides he wouldn't be able to use GHB as stick and his SL as carrot to control Inner SphereBears are already broken (in fact twice), the Dracs will just deliver coup de grace
>>94790578Bears will be fine, but you are also ignoring the Ravens, who sort of do the same thing as the bears. Not had any issues on their part on controlling the masses plus they have the resources to back up their might even against the new SL.Clan Sea Fox also has the entire backing the Mercs now going for them, so it puts them in a pretty safe spot
>>94790596>Ravens, who sort of do the same thing as the bears.Not exactly. Ravens played with Outworld Alliance the same game as Draconis Combine played with Nova Cats. And besides:1) They are way too far to be bothered with for now2) They counter-balanced by Sea Fox as provider of Naval assets untill Alaric subjucates the Belters and makes his own space navy3) He already tossed them into the conflict with Federrated Suns, so Raven Alliance wouldn't go out without exchanging punches with Davion
>>94790596>Not had any issues on their part on controlling the massesExcept they are still have Dark Caste issue which is grown bigger since they linked now with pirates from Tortuga and Outworld Wastes
>>94789280Rasalhague
>>94790596>RavensYou mean the clan which gets mogged by a single mech again and again?
>>94790755Nah, the Swedes is of oriental stock and the Swedenese that make up the Rasalhague doubly so.
>>94789280No one, Needed to get rid of them all in order to have diversity and inclusion.Real answer if you want to go off of factions, Probably the Fed Suns or at least a good amount so the Davions can remain white
>>94790800Does this look like a chinaman to you?
>>94788663Probably an unpopular opinion, but Jayden is peak character design. This is exactly what a genetically engineered child soldier would look like. I know the uncanny valley look is probably just the animators being shit or just not paid enough to give a damn, but I kinda hope more artists stick with this kind of look for Clanners in the future.
>>94790929You may not like it, but this is what peak genetically optimize warrior performance looks like.
>>94789280There's no such thing as "white people". Germans aren't Slavs, Celtics aren't Iberians and so on. The lines are a bit more blurred than ethnic groups on some other continents because of all the invasions and political marriages and such throughout European history, but still.
>>94788663Do clan eugenics actually do anything other than give them an excuse to kill each other over bloodnames?
>>94790172>Threw Ghost Bear into civil war and suicide attack on strongest IS militaryThe GBs/Rasalhagians did that to themselves. The civil war was more about the latent Rasalhague nationalism and rebellion against the repression inherent in clan culture than the IlClan. The vote was just the excuse for that seething resentment to come to the forefront and explode. Alaric rejected the vote because it was won on narrow lines and it was open to all castes, which is chalcas as fuck. >CSR vs the Federated SunsThat's just the Snow Ravens being clanners and taking advantage of their neighbors weakness. With the Suns getting stomped by the Combine, it's a no brainer for the Ravens to go get some worlds. It's the "free real estate" meme.>CJF and Wolf empire to be punching bagsAfter the IlClan Trial, the Jade Falcon touman on Terra was literally only 120 survivors, and that's including the wounded. 98% of the Jade Falcons are just fucking dead. They barely have a cluster of functioning mechwarriors. The Wolves didn't come out of it much better. The only reason the Wold Empire hasn't gone full hinterlands is because Alaric actually left a chain of command behind. He's not sending them any help because both the Combine and Confederation are on his door step with comparatively massive armies and a desire to kill him. He's not sending help because he just honestly doesn't have much to send. >keeps CSJ as his night lordsApparently, the majority said fuck you and fucked off to join the various RotS splinter groups.Basically, Alaric is in a position not unlike Napoleon in Moscow. Yeah, he took the capital, but he's surrounded by enemies, his army is barely holding it together, his supply lines exist mostly as hypotheticals, his base of power is a long way away and surrounded by aggressive major powers, and his allies are a disorganized gaggle that are unable to present a united front. He has much less agency and control than you give him.
>>94790985>Germans aren't SlavsAbout 30-40% of them are.Certainly everyone east of Elbe.
>>94791012I mean, the different warrior phenotypes seem to more or less work.
>>94791012Elementals and theoretically a lower chance of genetic disease in the limited, trueborn gene pool. Really, it's just an political filter to eliminate the lower castes from positions of power. Yeah, some laborer's kid might be able to test into the warrior caste, but without the gene lines, he won't get a bloodname, and therefore won't have an voice on the clan council.
>>94791024But the rus descend from vikings who descend from germans whose ancestors came from the geographic area of ukraine, so what's it matter?
>>94791028the ayyy lmao phenotype was a flopmechwarrior phenotype obviously suffered severe mental degradation as a tradeoff for that -1/-1 to their statline
>>94783968>>94785835All they really had to do is design some new mechs. Kingfisher for MWO? Probably would sell well. Finish up the unseen with Valk, Wasp, and Stinger designs? Yeah I bet people would buy them Razorback for some MWC2 vibes? Yeah that could sell.They could have just kept the pipeline going and fucked themselves by not doing it
If clanners were taking their eugenics seriously, there would be no women in the warrior caste.
>>94791167I just imagine the shit storm that would have caused. Though go the route of starship troopers and all aerospace pilots and space crew are women.
>>94791021>Basically, Alaric is in a position not unlike Napoleon in Moscow. Yeah, he took the capital, but he's surrounded by enemies, his army is barely holding it together, his supply lines exist mostly as hypotheticals, his base of power is a long way away and surrounded by aggressive major powers, and his allies are a disorganized gaggle that are unable to present a united front. He has much less agency and control than you give him.Come on anon. Remember the plot armor our little Habsburg carries on and the knowledge that Third Star League will conquer the whole Inner Sphere at 3251. We already know that:1) RAF defects to him in masses2) SLDF oneshoots Capellian forces and kills Daoshen>That's just the Snow Ravens being clanners and taking advantage of their neighbors weakness. With the Suns getting stomped by the Combine, it's a no brainer for the Ravens to go get some worlds. It's the "free real estate" meme.Except it happen AFTER Davion forces retook New Avalon and most of the Dragon;s Tongue
Any of you fine gentlebois have a link to issues of Mecha-Press? I can only find dead links.
>>94791392Do we actually know they did that? From what I was reading on Sarna we have no true ideas how the ilclan era looks
>>94791244What does a female ASF phenotype warrior look like?Asking for a fiend.
>>94791402https://archive.org/search?query=title%3A%28Mecha%20Press%29%20AND%20mediatype%3A%28texts%29
>>94791423We have the TRO blurbs from 3250 which are some peon telling the ilkhan about how great they are. They've ditched bigger plotlines than this before, but there's no indication that they're doing that (yet, we can dream). Those could also just be a peon trying to not get shot by a pissy rump state ilkhan with a bad ego problem. But at face value, it's saying the ilclan runs everything for at least a century, with minimal issues.Also the con event that's supposed to represent ilclan vs cappies was a crushing yiff victory. IKEO should have the canon writeup for that.
>>94791428My search turned up shit, guess I'm a retard. Thank you, based deliverer.
>>94791402>>94791428Aw, this is great. They got Five Star Stories and everything.And of all things, an adaption of Perfect Gundam to Battletech?
>>94790578>Clees speaking for all the other abjured clans lmao
>>94790578>Bears are already broken (in fact twice)Good point, I don’t know why anons complain that Bears never lose
>>94791537the whole mag is like a window in time, take me back
>>94791167Well duh
>>94791467Imagine a con event being overturned. Capellans are finally going to pay. Xin Sheng is over!
>>94791392>Except it happen AFTER Davion forces retook New Avalon and most of the Dragon;s TongueSo, when they were at the peak of their military exhaustion?>1) RAF defects to him in masses>2) SLDF oneshoots Capellian forces and kills DaoshenDo we know that, or are you just baselessy speculating from the chapter title spoilers the one guy posted from IKEO?
>>94791537Test rules for handheld weapons in battletech to simulate anime. God vindicates me once again.
>>94791618>So, when they were at the peak of their military exhaustion?When Dracs problem was resolved>>1) RAF defects to him in massesTrial of Bloodright tie-in novel>>2) SLDF oneshoots Capellian forces and kills DaoshenIlkhan's eye only
>>94791509Your own personal Jesus.
>>94786233Yes no one likes Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries.
>>94791620>God vindicates me once again.Sorry to pop your bubble, but those are just fan rules bro.
>>94791635>Ilkhan's eye only>citing an unreleased bookAnon...come on now.
>>94791790Anon I did not think the rules in a fan magazine that says they are unofficial are real. I am saying the concept has existed in the hearts and minds of all true mecha fans, which is why hand carried weapons still get officially supported to this day.
>>94791800Anon, even if it ends with pyrhic victory for yiffs (which probably will mean they are getting ditched out along with rest of the clans in favour of nuSLDF by the writters) we know that Daoshen is dead and Danai is new supreme chancellor.
>>94791620You know as an aside, it'd be nice if that off-hand stabilization rule just applied to mechs with a free hand. It never really made much sense to me that battlemechs that clearly have a free arm just do jazz hands with that one while freeballing an AC or similar in the other hand. Even if it was at quirk level it would be fun.
>>94791887>the 81 year old guy died and his known successor takes overOh no, surely this is indisputable truth that the back of the CCAF is broken!Anon, we don't know shit.
>>94791700The four modes of a LAM: Jet Mode, Battloid Mode, GERWALK Mode and Depeche Mode.
Why do Drac regiments have names like Hussars, Legion, Regulars, etc instead of stuff like Kihei or Ashigaru or something?Only a handful of their units seem to have fully Japanese names.
>>94792246Copied over from SLDF unit designations, as every state did.
>>94792216reach out~
>>94792246Only a handful of Kuritas have fully Japanese names so that checks out.
>One ton of machine gun rounds were carried in the center torsoWhy do they do this?Why do Mariks insist on this?
>>94792463Because fuck you! You are not getting salvage!
>>94792463Because it'll a cold day in hell when you get to loot my family's mech you kraut son of a bitch. If I'm going down, I'm taking your salvage with me!
>>94792463Because the only people Mariks hate more than everyone else is themselves.
>>94792463a) FWL is a mook factionb) FWL mechs spend more time shooting at civilian protests and/or separatist militias than fighting peer enemies so the MGs are a necessity
Why do infernos get to make automatic through-armor crits on combat vehicles? 2-3 SRM-6s can easily kill any tank regardless of armor.
wtf does TAG actually do? if you don't have semi guided LRMs is it useless?
How do Awesome-9Q, Thunder Hawk, and Devastator-2 compare to each other?
>>94792823I believe if I remember off the top of my head, also counts as a spotting for arrow IV and indirect fire with LRMs
>>94792776vehicles are supposed to be bad
Damn, they really are distancing themselves from Aerotech.
>>94792976So it's just an a nerf to make sure that Mechs are kings of the battlefield even though it makes no sense? What's the point of having all these planetary defense garrisons of fancy tanks like Pattons then
>>94793016mooks to go through obviously.[It is somewhat why I prefer Heavy Gear in that Tanks will fuck up a gears day but if you are smart about it you can deal with tanks]
>>94793078It just doesn't make sense for them to spend their Planetary Defense Budget C-Bills on units that are literally designed to be mooks and combat ineffective. Maybe they're good against other tanks, but it's not like you're ever invading other planets with conventional forces. Tanks with fusion engines seem like they are literally just griefing the faction to be made, sapping away perfectly good engines from battlemechs, just to have the same armor from the same factories fail to protect them.
>>94793016Mechs are already not cost effective compared to every other unit type in BT if you take the rules at face value and that's WITH all the arbitrary rules to make vees spontaneously explode and ASFs crash when performing extremely basic manoeuvres, the only thing that keeps them relevant is grog screeching.
>>94793122>make rules for game where mechs are the best>look inside>conventional combined armsAlright, so instead of making vehicles randomly spontaneously worse, how could we make mechs more functional, in ways that vehicles don't also benefit from? Acceleration mechanics? Just shitloads of terrain?
>>94793106Because I can get almost 5-6 Scorpions for the price of a Wasp. That is 6 AC/5s that I can sit back and plink away at a slow mech and cause PSR's. Fusions do not make a whole lot of sense on the lighter vehicles, but that is why most have ICE.
>>94793141Mechs still have their place as an elite breakthrough unit because they fail more predictably than vees or ASFs.But if you took the lore and/or the rules seriously, the bulk of the fighting would be done by conventional forces.
>>94793106Lets do some math anon and see if we can understand why anyone would build or buy tanks:A Locust is a 20 ton mech that costs in its default configuration 1.5 million Cbills. It fields one medium laser and two machine guns. It has 4 tons of armor and moves at a rate of ~130 kph. Its BV (known to us, but possibly assumed by similar performance metrics in universe, if not exactly) is 432. A Galleon is a 30 ton tank, that costs in it default configuration 0.3 million Cbills.It fields one medium laser and two small lasers. Each Galleon has 3.5 tons of armor and (on permitting terrain) moves at a rate of ~90 kph. Its BV is 309.To summarize, you can buy five Galleons for the cost of a single Locust, fielding 5 times the weaponry and almost five times the armor. In combat, each Galleon is roughly equivalent to 75% of a Locust in a straight fight; While the Locust has advantages it can leverage as a battlemech in both mobility and survivability, it is simply not as economical.If a planet wanted to protect an asset, what is the more reasonable purchase? One Locust or equivalent or an entire lance of combat vehicles? More important assets would most certainly warrant guard by battlemechs, but the ubiquity of combat vehicles is a simple matter of mathematics.Forces field tanks because they're cheaper per ton of weaponry.
>>94793173To be fair, that is 5x the battle value, if we're going by balance. Maybe mechs concentrate more power into a single dropship chassis slot, so if we're talking about invasions, that does make sense.>ICE/FusionTrue, but I just wouldn't want my fusion engines for heavy/advanced tanks going there when they could go into a mech, that doesn't randomly explode, even if it is overall constrained. Isn't engine production generally one of the hardest parts of mech procurement?
>>94793195Oh and by ASFs I also mean conventional aircraft.The notion that some band of mercs can go to whatever planet they want without their dropship getting dogpiled by Boeing Jump Bombers (or equivalent aircraft) 15 minutes after touching down is silly.
>>94793197So, tanks are super OP if balancing by C-Bills, but underpowered by battle value. This makes invasion scenarios.... weird. Assuming that the breakthroughs usually involve some amount of dropped in mechs, trying to play this >>94793195>Fail more predictablySimply due to having less ways to get through-armor crit?>>94793237Surely even with the ASF rules and balancing, a dropship can have enough flak to defend vs this, right? It can't take that many jaegermechs or riflemen to cover them.**assuming sort of non retarded weapon ranges for flak etc.
>>94793244the majority of cbill cost of any unit is from the fusion engine. vehicles with fusion engine stop being massively cheaper than mechs.
>>94793244A rifleman will run out of ammo before shooting down a third of it's c-bill value in jump bombers.
>>94793122Would you play this game, or even looked at it to begin with, if it was just combined arms and no 'Mechs?
>>94793198>>94793244BV is an Out of universe concept to ensure the fight is somewhat fair between players. In universe you are not wanting to fight a fair fight.>ICE/Fusion>True, but I just wouldn't want my fusion engines for heavy/advanced tanks going there when they could go into a mech, that doesn't randomly explode, even if it is overall constrained. Isn't engine production generally one of the hardest parts of mech procurement?It is, but when you get to heavy Vics you are most likely not going to kill them. You can mobility hobble them, but take a Rhino for instance. It would take way too long to get through all of that armor when it can still shoot at you. On the battlefield this is where mechs can shine, as they can mobility kill then walk away instead of trying to pound through 200+ points of armor
>>94793273yes
>>94793244Tanks are economical by C-bills. There are a variety of gameplay and campaign reasons they have downsides and why battlemechs retain primacy on the field. Among them, what sparked this conversation, tanks are critically vulnerable to weapons and tactics that are just effective against battlemechs. If somebody opens up with infernos, you want to be in that locust and not in that galleon. The battlemech will stomp the turret compartment and then the crew compartment if it gets close. If you wind up in a mine field you'd better back up carefully the way you came, you can't fly on out on your jumpjets.
Again, you are all ignoring the REAL bottleneck of why battlemechs are used. To transport a battlemech company of 12 mechs, small support staff, small med staff, and the mech jocks, you need, A union.To transport a company of TONKS you need like, 5 unions.As you move more and more people around in battletech, jist like in real life, you start needing insane amounts of food and water, AIR, co2 scrubbers etc.Battlemechs aren't used because they are the BESTEST EVERER, they are used because its force projection you can logistically make WORK AT ALL. So yes, IF your planet has a fusion engine plant and a tank factory, you can easily pump out 2 million tanks so that everyone on the planet hasn't merely got an AR for when the Davions, i mean, bad guys come, everyone has a fucking patton or whatever they crew in neighbourhood watch blocks. But you arent going to take you mechanised army and invade your neighbours with it.You'd need to buy pretty much the entire IS's shipping.BUT, you CAN run two to four companies of battlemechs.If a nearby planet gets uppity, you can afford to send a Union and its strike company of mechsto turn the other planet's governor's mansion into rubble. Or steal all their shit from the local starport warehousing area.
>>94793307You have your reasoning backwards here. It doesn't make sense why the locust is less weak to infernos than the galleon is in the first place. Your other points are totally valid.>>94793309This all makes perfect sense, but if every planet can just defend itself with 5x as many tanks, why bother using mechs on the defensive ever, and really, how do you ever get enough mechs to make a difference. You can raid their supply lines or something, but no invading mech force can ever take a decisive battle.
>>94793294So go do that and stop wasting our time
>>94793309Alternate explanation:A Union class dropship has an exawatt-range fusion drive (this is according to hard math from it's stat sheet and the rocket equation, it's not negotiable) that produces about one Hiroshima per second of exhaust energy so any form of mass warfare is impossible since the dropship can just point its exhaust plume in the vague direction of the continent housing the offending army and set the throttle to 100%.Battletech REALLY doesn't need nuclear weapons.
>>94793334Mech are "less weak" to infernos than tanks because mechs have integrated heat management (ignoring the efficiency of certain designs) systems that allow any secondary effects of infernos to be temporary at best.Tanks dont have this
>>94793334Not every planet has tank factories and engine plants, not every planet has aerospace factories.Thats why everyone makes do with 2-4 companies in one regiment of mechs. Thats the average of what people running a planet can get.Now if you're a super rich planet, you can buy a couple of regiments maybe, some assault droppers. Hell a stupidly rich planet, say hesperus, can buy and support itself an RCT. All military power in battletechbis concentrated to the places that can afford it and maintain it.Thats why you can conquer some backwoods fringe planet with a lance of mechs, no one there can afford to buy three regiments + to stop you.Its all about that economy. That tax base. Logistics and artillery win all the wars ever.
>>94793360Anti dropship batteries would fry their ass before they got anywhere near a target of importance. Thats why they gotta land far away and trudge there on foot.Plus the goal 99% of the time is to take and hold territory. Smoking crater is the easiest but fails the goal of being able to use that territory once secured
>>94793371Car engines get rid of heat the same way mech ones do, by running coolant through the engine and blowing hot air outside.
>>94793410And those coolant lines are woven throughout the 'Mech, so it can disperse the heat from the myomer. The coolant lines in most convees is only from engine to sink, not woven throughout the tank structure. My point still stands
>>94793426A tank is already rugged enough to fight on frozen and/or scorching hot planets (or airless ones for fusion vehicles) without anything important boiling or freezing so I doubt that.The mechanics are pure fiat.
>>94793426Mechs have heatsinks because the myomer needs to be actively cooled. Tanks don't, outside of laser-armed/fusion engined ones, because the amount of heat they readily experience is utterly irrelevant to the functioning of the tank. Unless you seriously think that the infernos can heat up all the armor between the crew compartment and the exterior, to the point where it begins to damage internals.
What is the ugliest mech design and why is it the Orion
>>94793472Old Nova.Old Ebon Jaguar.Turkina.Any other mech where the artist forgot to include a pelvis.
>>94793472Because the shoulder missile launcher is fucking retarded.
>>94793489It looks so haphazardly put together that it looks more like a frankenmech than some frankenmechs.
>>94793426Don't infernos work by making the heatsinks unable to sink heat by heating up the air around the mech? Slash making the heatsinks work in reverse, heating up the coolant.
>>94793472I really like Orion in BT2018 or MW, but it does look weird scaled down in minis.
>>94793472HERESY
>>94793589It's a good mech but it's ugly.
Why is the Axel 2bv cheaper than a Rommel despite having significantly worse speed and armor. It can't just be the machine guns.
>>94793472Nearly everything in TRO 3067 is an affront to aesthetics.
>>94793472Bowman is pretty bad. Original Kraken probably takes the crown, however.
>>94793472Yeoman.
>>94793709I think they expect a lot of combined arms battles to include infantry, so the MGs would be pretty valuable in context.
>>94793709
some WIPs, the panther is based on ferret from malibu comics
>>94793769What's the mech on the right?
>>94793598KURITA onion is great.
>>94793795gravedigver GRD-1C, one of the few dark age mechs I own
>>94793487>>94793472Old Black Lanner is pretty fucking bad>>94793743The forward-facing knees look so off to me but honestly, it gives off 'Funky Stalker' energy and I kinda like it
A very unfortunate start to the operations of the Taurian Defense Force 7th Independent Battalion.A jumpship preparing to leave the Cyrton system reported an unscheduled jumpship emerging at a pirate point and launching a single dropship towards the planet. As Cyrton lacks an HPG station, the 7th was tasked with investigating this report. Leaving the majority of their assets in garrison to guard against possibly Davion aggression, the 7th dispatched one of their scout lances and their direct fire lance aboard a union dropship to investigate. Arriving in system, the 7th established communications with the planetary government and learned that a Leopard dropship had deployed a lance of pirate mechs, seizing the valuable mines, taking the miners hostage, and easily rebuffing the counterattack of the local militia forces.Subaltern Marcus Porter, leader of this detachment, immediately began a leisurely 1g burn towards the planet, electing to land his dropship over the horizon and approach on foot. The Scout lance, consisting of a Locust LCT-1V, an LCT-3V, a Cicada CDA-2A, and led by Cornet Joseph Rogan in his Spider SDR-5V, was dispatched ahead to ascertain the disposition of Pirate forces.Unfortunately, Cornet Rogan proved to be quite rash when unsupervised, alerting the pirates to the approach of the scouts by triggering his jumpjets, and then leaping to the top of a 7 level high communications tower in order to gain a commanding vantage point. Unfortunately for Cornet Rogan, the flimsy communications tower was unable to bear the weight of his 30 ton mech, and he suffered a considerable fall, the resulting impact with the ground completely destroying the Gyro and completely spoiling the element of surprise. He was able, in the few moments before he plunged to the ground, report that enemy forces consisted of a Wasp, Stinger, and Shadowhawk.
Can you field a 10 mech horde formation of Firestarters under the force org rules or is their Alpha Strike damage above the threshold?
>>94793758True but they can’t be responsible for the BV changes alone>>94793767I see, so it’s >+45 BV from upgrading the LRM>~1/9th overall armament cost reduction from speed>20 points cheaper from less armorAnd this makes it all equal out in terms of BV, despite being basically worse in most ways.
>>94793894With the element of surprise lost, Subaltern Porter quickly ordered the scout lance to investigate the mines and the worker housing complex. Racing forward, the locusts began a high speed fight with the jumping bug mechs, their low profile and high speed allowing them to remain unscathed while the Stinger and the Wasp used their jump jets to remain evasive, neither side managing to land any hits on the other. The biggest score for the scouts, however, was information. Not only did they discover pirate infantry foot infantry spilling out of the barracks and taking up ambush positions in the nearby woods, they discovered the fourth mech of the Pirate lance emerging from the mines.The assault mech they discovered was piloted by Jack “The Kneecapper” Clapper, heir to the once notable Clapper family. The Clapper family made its fortune with a variety of convenient devices in the days of the Terran Hegemony, suffering great financial loss during the Succession Wars. Their products have now been rendered Lostech, except for Jack’s ancestral BNC-3E, which has a unique startup sequence.Realizing that the scouts didn't have the firepower necessary to deal with a formidable Banshee, Subaltern Porter quickly began moving his Direct Fire lance up while the scouts were ordered to deal with the infantry.
>>94793954Leading the charge in his RFL-3N, Subaltern Porter was joined by cornet Sarah Palmer in her BJ-1, Gregory Solek in his SHD-3H, and John Griffin in his GRF-1N.Lady luck favored the pirates this day, however. With the two Locusts and the Shadow Hawk 3H wading into the woods to eliminate the enemy infantry, the rest of the lance began exchanging fire with the Pirate Shadowhawk and the Banshee. Despite nominally being veterans, the Taurians came out far the worse for wear in the exchange, with only John Griffin managing to lance a full 10 missile volley into the leg of the SHD-2H, while Jack "The Kneecapper" lived up to his name by scoring a telling blow in return, a lucky strike from his PPC seizing the right hip actuator of the Griffin and drastically limiting its mobility. Under fire from both the Shadow Hawk and the Banshee, John Griffin skillfully disengaged by use of his jump jets, remaining upright despite taking considerable damage and his damaged hip actuator. In the next exchange of fire, The Banshee again went for the leg, putting both of its weapons into the right leg of Subaltern Porter and as he angled for a shot at the rear armor of the Pirate Shadow Hawk that was engaging Lila Patel's cicada as she hunted down the Stinger.Near the oasis, the fight was also not going well for the Taurians. Ambushed by a second platoon of foot infantry, concentrated rifle fire managed to destroy the leg of Patrick McMurphy, sending him crashing to the ground, however the six machine guns made quick work of that platoon and savaged another one despite the heavy wooded cover.Attempting to capitalize on the downed locust, the bloodthirst pirate Wasp instead found himself on the receiving end of three medium lasers to the rear armor, the only serious casualty being a jump jet.At this juncture, the Subaltern has steeled himself to fight to the bitter end rather than retreat and regroup, ceding the battlefield and the two fallen mechs to the pirate forces.
>>94793894>>94793954>>94794100This was supposed to be the easy first mission in a narrative campaign to introduce the player to more of the total warfare rules, specifically infantry, buildings, and skidding. It's turning out to be quite a SNAFU instead. The Banshee, which I planned to have as a big scary punching bag, has proven to be quite adept at punching down and it's only going to get worse in a turn or two when it's literally punching down. The locusts didn't keep up their speed and got cut up by ballistic rifle foot infantry of all things, and I couldn't have predicted the Spider disabling itself before even making contact with the enemy. I'm not quite sure how to salvage this without obviously throwing the match. Maybe the Shad is going to run dry on ammo, or the 5/6 bug pilot will lose his nerve and bug out?
New thread? New thread.>>94794192>>94794192
>>94793141Well yes, terrain. Actually, it would be ideal if BT had more discrete levels of vertical terrain and movement costs to represent the majority of the reason you want legs in the first place. Bonuses for shooting and evading attacks from vertical cover would also come into play, with mechs having a much better modifier to vees. Rules for corner shooting with arm mounted weapons would also help.
>>94794237Mechs being 2 levels high already gives them a big advantage here, since they can "tank" behind partial cover, whereas most combat vehicles are 1 level high and are either exposed or not. There's no "hull down" option for them.It's insane to me that there aren't already corner shooting rules. They have rules for everything, except things that obviously make sense
>>94793360>exawatt-range fusion driveI don't doubt you, but I'd like to see the numbers if you know where they are.>the dropship can just point its exhaust plume in the vague direction of the continent housing the offending army and set the throttle to 100%.Hell yeah. https://youtu.be/t-HbsUktdKU?si=FYuZOVgENTIMRbK2>>94793402I don't think you really understand what an exawatt is, bud.
>>94790318Considering CJF genocided its own scientist caste at one point, probably not.
>>94788777Stop posting your freaky fetish unit, you fucking dweeb
>>94788206don't forget that they're so good their budgeting that they have to rely on stupid people every single time to actually get the mechs produced and definitely won't spend it on a porch or under the table HRT for children that a writer tried to keep hush hush.
>>94787247where the fuck do you even get peregrines
>>94793812bro you need to redo that ammo belt, keep the casings gold but the belt black.looks good EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
>>94795541if you had some mechs you were proud of, wouldn't you want to show it off? i posted spooky like 10 or 12 times.
>>94793894>Unfortunately, Cornet Rogan proved to be quite rash when unsupervised, alerting the pirates to the approach of the scouts by triggering his jumpjets, and then leaping to the top of a 7 level high communications tower in order to gain a commanding vantage point. Unfortunately for Cornet Rogan, the flimsy communications tower was unable to bear the weight of his 30 ton mech, and he suffered a considerable fall, the resulting impact with the ground completely destroying the Gyro and completely spoiling the element of surprise.So wait, you let your player do this instead of telling him that "this is what will happen, rules-wise, if you do so?"If you didn't, fuck off, learn to be a better gamemaster.If you did, your player is a retard.
>>94784730Look at the Fire Scorpion. It has design DNA from both of them.
