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What is your favourite brigade of the DCMS?
>>94804049Can I choose a battalion instead?
>>94804049I dunno, the ALAG I guess
>>94804049>What is your favourite brigade of the DCMS?Whichever is most honorable. So when one of them becomes such, I'll make a choice.
>>94804049The version of the legion of vega we see briefly in heir to the dragon when theodore first arrives and it's somehow operating on prison rules.
>>94804049>Sword of Light>Genyosha>Ghost Regiments>Legion of Vega>Night Stalkers>even Clan Fire Mandrill find their roots in the Dracstoo hard to pick
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>>94804044HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>94804063What's the airplane?
>>94804218Tonbo.MCA loves Tonbos.
>>94804246>MCA loves Tonbos.Who doesn't love Tonbos?
>>94804218>>94804246>>94804285If you don't develop an irrational love for an obscure support vehicle are you even playing battletech? I even worked a Tonbo in a civilian application into my latest Shrapnel entry
>>94804310>an irrational love for an obscure support vehicleI have added ovipositors to my Tonbos with greenstuff, so I can imagine them impregnating Mechs while they move them. Tonbo4lyfe.
>>94804350I mean, they're based on wasps, and from an evolutionary standpoint a wasp stinger is just a modfied ovipositor...
>>94804350what
>>94804246>They may have taken out Stinger LAMs, but they'll never take our Tonbos!>In fact, our Tonbos will take THEIR mechs!Truly the Dragon's wisdom is without peer.
>>94804350Based
>>94804350>have added ovipositors to my TonbosI hate this website and these threads so much
>>94804246>>94804310>>94804350If you dropped the communication equipment and raised up the speed, would there be merit in using Tonbos as transport for rapid deployment of mechs?
>>94804350
>>94804399No. Tonbos can only carry mechs that are fully shut down and transported as cargo. In order to go from cargo to combat ready, a mech needs at least a few hours of a tech team's time. You can carry a tech team in the infantry bay, but there's not much point in rapid deploying a mech that you then need to spend hours booting up.
>>94804399https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWkgFdUcayY
I wonder how the average Joe feels about the state of affairs in the battletech universe? Do any of them care at this point?
Dragon status: HONORED
>>94804431The circumstances in any given area in any given planet in any given state would be so wildly different that there would be nothing approaching consensus in any region beyond individual cities.There are like two functioning HPGs in the inner sphere at this point, nobody has any regular news updates or intersolar contact unless you're government or similar. The blackout and collapse of comstar would cause an unimaginable economic upheaval across the entire inner sphere.
>>94804310>I even worked a Tonbo in a civilian application into my latest Shrapnel entryNoice!>>94804394>I hate this website and these threads so muchRemember, you're here forever!
>>94804399Trying to hoist a mech with an active gyro would probably be (briefly) exciting and result in a lot of paperwork.
>>94804049Akab legions obviously
So with Comstar/WoB is out of business who now provides jumpships to minor factions or pirates?
>>94803830>Lorem ipsumAnother editor mistake? where?
>>94804049I painted Legion of Vega mostly so I’d have some mechs to fight against my other paint schemes (Gunzburg Eagles and Snow Ravens) but I do think the whole “prison army” thing is pretty fun anyway. Honestly with how much the Dracs seem to like red and gray I could probably pass these off as a number of units.
>>94804588Battletech legends
>>94804764
How would you guys feel about a TRO that added some more introtech variants of the more common mechs with the explanation that these were mostly used in the periphery and comstar just couldn't be bothered to check exhaustively when they wrote TRO 3025?
What the FUCK was his endgame?
>>94804915They've already added additional variants of introtech mechs multiple times, like the AC/10 Wolverine or SuburbanMech. The variant list in TROs is rarely meant to be a complete list of all variants of the mech (that's usually only the case for mechs where even the base version is very rare), but rather the most common and prominent variants, such as the version commonly used by specific House militaries.
>>94804915As long as they are flavourful designs then sure why not. But if its all (jumpy) ML boats.. Please don't
>>94804577Big Bill Seafox's Used Dropships
Where the fuck does the CSF even get thr necessary materials, resources and facility/workforce to produce all those Clantech goods anyway?
>>94805089They have their Arkships, wich have factories. They also have enclaves with factories all over the place. As for resources, they buy the stuff all over the sphere directly or trought subsidiaries.
>>94804411What stops a mech from being transported in a state that's ready for startup?
>>94805089quick rundown:>Merc bow to Sea Foxes>In contact with aliens>Possess psychic-like abilities>Control clantech trade with an iron but fair fist>Own enclaves across the Inner Sphere>Direct descendants of the ancient SLDF tradition>Will bankroll the first colony expedition outside the Sphere (Star Fox will be be the first colony ship)>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities in the Inner Sphere>First spheroid trueborn will in all likelihood be Sea Fox trueborn>both khans said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence in the Sphere has only existed deep in Terran monasteries & Comstar biolabs>You likely have Sea Fox tech inside your mech right now
>>94805137>>First spheroid truebornAlready exists
>>94805089>>94805108For one, IIRC the Clan XL engine requires some material from the Clans homeworld and that's why the Wolf's Dragoons made the light engine instead because they ran out of the supply
>>94805137And people said comstar was overpowered.
>>94805137Letting the clans settle in the Inner Sphere was a mistake
I find it funny how the IS beat the Clans but the Clans still won in the end anyway.
>>94805353Badly written fanboyism is a pathway to many things some consider to be utterly retarded.
>>94804982>>94804987I adore mech variants that can only be explained by lore reasons because they clearly weren't designed well. Like, "we didn't have the ability to build a Firestarter, but here's a run of Commandos where the medium laser, the SRM6 and its ton of ammo were replaced with 2 flamers, four MGs, and a full ton of MG ammo."
How complex is Aerospace combat if you're just staying in space?
>>94805154That was Harjel, not Clan XL Engines. The Goons made the LFE because it was cheaper.
>>94805445Not Expanse tier
>>94805353Not Clans. Clan Wolf and may be Diamond Shark.And desu, it wasn't all that bad before ilClan.But I generally believe CGL are now switching to making nuStar League being different entity than Clans, which is somehow makes matters worse.
>>94805660Nothing is expanse tier because it has no games.Nebulous doesn't count.
>>94805703A new Star League Defense Force made of yiffers, hipercompetent nuSmokeJaguars, and truckloads of former RAF members that drank the Kool Aid. What could go wrong?
>>94805705Attack Vector: Tactical is basically expanse sans the magic fusion drives
>>94805703A new star league being different from clans actually does make sense though. The crusaders felt that taking Terra and becoming Ilclan was the entire purpose of the clans, so now that their purpose is fulfilled, what do they need clans for anymore? We can already see this with Alaric ditching the wolf empire and any part of the clan that's not physically with him at Terra. Khan of clan wolf is now a lesser title than what he is.
>>94805807Not ditching. He sent people to demand more pilots and stuff to reinforce Terra.
I've got a spare catapult and want to convert it into a H2. Is there a good looking way to convert rocket launchers or do people just use the standard LRMs as a proxy?
>>94805818When did he do that? As of Empire Alone, the wolf empire hasn't heard shit from Alaric other than to declare victory, and they have so few warriors that most of their planets are defended by single digit or even zero warriors at all.
>>94804101>main Jade Falcon and Canopus>whine about others not being honorablekek I miss when you could shitpost fearlessly and post your batreps without fear of repercussions
>>94805484Anon is right about Clan XL engines.But again all the Clans and even the Wolf's Dragoons still have the capability of producing Clan XL engines so they must have figure something out.
>>94805920It makes sense for harjel to be a bitch to replicate since it's organic, but it doesn't really make sense for there to be a special material that only exists in one part of the galaxy. A special clantech process to make it sure, but not the material itself.
>>94805936Inorganic material for engines, that is.
>>94805807>A new star league being different from clans actually does make sense though.May be but it's pulled out of nowhere among omnicidal crusader clans,
How hard is it to change the engine and the structure from like standard to (clan) XL/endo steel and stuffs? Need full factory for that kind of stuffs?
>>94806059Usually it's a full factory refit, but some rule printings say there's refit kits for engines that make it doable in a maintenance facility, and it's implied possible for structure too since there are "field refits" that include going endo.
>>94806059F-class refit, which means sending the mech back to the factory for a complete rebuild. Iirc foreign tech base makes the tech roll harder, and mixtech and/or nonstandard designs add even more difficulty and cost.Mechanically I think it translates to something on the order of a month's work if everything goes perfectly to swap engine type and structure.
Can you guys think of some examples of impressive but practiaclly useless LosTech? Kind of want to use some as mission objective and stuffs
>>94806187Any planetary engineering or terraforming gizmo.Like a planetary magnetic field generator that nobody in the nigger sphere could afford to run and or maintain. Or even move it to a planet where it would be useful.But maybe yourdudes can jury rig it for one good EM pulse to swat out the enemy ASF wing out of the sky.
>>94806159Engine refits are a class E but if you use a Refit Kit drops it to a Class D Facility refit.DESU though I never really gave the Campaign Operations rules any credence as in lore you don't need a Factory Refit to change engines.
>>94806187A desktop hydroponic tank that contains a genetically modified basil plant. It needs one cup of water per month (and a packet of PH chemicals every few years) and is otherwise completely self-contained, spitting out a small handful of neatly clipped basil leaves every day. Its battery will run for years but it's better plugged in.
>>94806187Salination plant.Constructed for an inland, indoor star league era resort, this automated facility takes clean drinkable water and infuses it with various salts and other "therapeutic" minerals. The water quality is sampled and adjusted 16 times per second to ensure a relaxing beach environment year round.
>>94806320amazing
>>94806187A dropship with most of its mass taken up by an absurd gyro stabilization system. It can spin on a dime fast enough to be dangerous to its own crew and never suffers from turbulence of any kind. Crew size of six with a whopping three tons of cargo space.
>>94806059As the other anon said, anything involving structure is still a factory refit. Since it's clantech, it'll be much, much more difficult to do any refit in most eras unless you somehow have access to clan techs. Makes the process more expensive, higher chance of failure, and quality degradation without them.>>94806289A refit kit is for swapping a whole 'mech from one variant to another, and if I've interpreted the rules correctly you have to use the whole kit to get the benefits. You can break up the kit but then don't get the benefits. So no buying a refit kit and then just using the XL engine included>>94806289The maintenance and refit rules are completely deranged when it comes to quality drops. There'd be no battlemechs left by the 3000s if that's taken seriously>in lore you don't need a Factory Refit to change engines.I don't doubt it, but that introduces a slew of problems on why so many hated variants weren't tweaked with an engine refit for centuries (Charger...)
>>94806570>why so many hated variants weren't tweaked with an engine refit for centuriesICE engines running on leaded fuel for a thousand years.
>>94806570Refurbishment is also a thing, although they made it class E which is prohibitive.A lot of this system would be improved by just making it so "shops" can do E class refits rather than requiring fully functional factories. Units like Black Knights and Osts still had facilities making parts and maybe refit kits, but no full factories. Parts shops should be an official step above maintenance cubes and below factories.
>>94806622That would honestly explain everything
>>94806570Partial refits really should be a thing, especially with so many privately owned mechs far far away from the one or two factories that are fully booked with state contracts.
>>94806705i would put wood grips on my lbx
>>94806622>ICE engines running on leaded fuel for a thousand years.>>94806662Truly a libertarian dystopia...>>94806727>i would put wood grips on my lbxBut it doesn't HAVE grips!
>Looking foward to an interesting game of battletech after a real drag of a day at work>Flgs misplaced the battletech group library (community rulebook, dice sets, mapsheets, etc)>Only time for a 3v3 9,000bv per side after we find everything>Opponents field Masakari C, Loki MkII, and a Blackjack C with a few lights>Our opponents mainly stay still in height 2 sniper nests with woods and partial coverWe won in the end but what a disappointing game. Hope you're all having more fun anons.
>>94804979Who the fuck knows? The Jihad was shaped by Real Life events that required the entire place to be nuked to the ground to let the Republic exist. We'll probably never know how the original Jihad plotline would have developed properly.His endgame nowadays was essentially use the Second Star League as a way to ensure peace and prosperity through complete clanner genocide. When this did not happen because the House Lords were corrupt idiots the plan switched to some anime plot where they would become the ultimate evil to ensure the rise of the Republic and relative peace, obtaining his objectives through retarded anime means.He didn't count on Devlin Stone going full retard and letting the yiffs win, sadly.
>>94807218Was there any way that Stone could have won?
>>94805856Trial of Birthright, pg. 118.
>>94807259They had tech parity, numerical superiority and multiple generations to repair the defenses
should've just nuked the clan homeworlds down to the bedrock
>>94807340clans would have beat them anyway
Complete Jennercide of the clans.
>>94807271He seems to be having a lot of communication issues considering Othar wasn't told he would be in charge or left any guidance on how to run things.
>>94807271All that says is that he sent a message saying he won, which is also the only message mentioned in Empire Alone.
>While the ilKhan had hoped former Republic warriors would flock to the Wolf banner after the liberation of Terra, most had disappeared into the planetary population. Damn, I was hoping for Alaric to be smart and competent big bad villain, but there is no hope for that it seems
>>94804702Those are nice and clean anon. Good Job. What's the recipe if you don't mind me asking?
>>94807439
So anyone cracked open Ilkhans eyes only?
>>94807479That'll be a difficult order for Othar to fill considering he's facing down at least one invasion and has so few warriors on hand that many of his worlds have zero (0) defenders and the ones that do have single digit fresh graduates who won positions in crash graduations while the invaders were burning for the surface.
>>94807479Next page please, this one only has them talking about sending a message and the difficulties they acknowledge are currently prohibitive.
>>94807340Good point. Wars of Reaving proved the homeworlds were easily wrecked, and virtually none of them had functional SDSs.
Will this affect CGL/BT as well?
>>94807568Literally who?
>>94807519
>>94807479>>94807595My clanner fatigue rapidly turning into clanner exhaustion.
>>94807519Basically they gonna send a CSF JS to Gineah, carrying the message for Othar, with CSR pilots and DS, but with SLDF ASFs, and all under the aegs of the nuSLDF.
>>94805892>whine about others not being honorableNTA, but I'd point out that the Falcons were ultimately more honorable than the Combine. They basically died as a Clan rather than change who they were, rather than compromise in what they believed. That's a LOT more honorable than the Combine which whiplashes back and forth between traditional and "reform" leadership. The Combine compromises their beliefs all the fucking time. That makes them less honorable than the Falcons by a lot.
>>94807680Anon plz. You can't just drop truth bombs like that into a thread until it's past the bump limit so we can shitpost about it freely.
>>94805892Why couldn't you post batreps without fear? i see batreps posted all the time they mostly seem to just be ignored.
>>94807711I've considered posting batreps, but people just don't seem interested in them, so why bother?
>>94807723I'm always keen to see game played with painted mechs
>>94807711There's a guy in the thread who hates them and uses a botnet to report them. >>94807723Also this, I get maybe two responses when I post mine.
>>94807680Huh? They were in the inner sphere for less than five years before they were doing the "tee hee we couldn't possibly know who those extremely well equipped pirates were" routine the same as all the scavenger lords.
>>94807730>>94807727>>94807723My feeling is that I played the game, I've already had my fun. Taking pictures and trying to tell an interesting story isn't for me, it's for everyone else.
>>94805892>>94807730>>94807723Here are some (You)s, you attention seeking degenerates.
>>94807777Look man, it's either we post batreps, or bottom posts butte. Pick one.
>>94807791guess what?
>>94807791I say post batreps, I don't want to see some ugly old dude posting his ass.
Anyone got ahold of the new book yet to drop some spoilers?
>>94807606The Word tried to stop it.You didn't listen.
>>94807841Comes out tomorrow. We probably won't get anything until the PDF hits on Friday
>>94807723>>94807711Everyone is tired of seeing Battletech battle reports. If you play in a good game like Alpha Strike, your reports will be interesting and welcome. But if you're going to continue to clog up the threads with many posts and images about grogtech, then they will continue to be reported as being off topic.
>>94807466>spray prime white>base coat mechanicus gray>mephiston red on the shins/shoulders/head>iron warriors on all actuators/gun barrels/jump jets>medium wash with nuln oil>weapon jeweling and cockpits with whatever colors you wantIt's not terribly complicated, I think just being very precise with the edges between colors goes a long way towards making them look nice even without any more advanced techniques.
>>94807879Timezone got me, I saw someone say it is coming out tomorrow and was still yesterday for me
Was it ever said why they rescinded the Ares Conventions before the Reclamation war?
>>94807964At the time the periphery nations were near-peers to what would later be the great houses and they decided they didn't have a big enough chance at victory without the use of strategic weapons like nukes and orbital bombardment.
>>94807964The first lord figured he had the biggest swinging dick and didn't need the protection anymore. And if everyone's in the same state, then any agreements between states are obviously null.
J, if you're an old lurker like me, I just wanted to say you're a king for reminiscing with me about Ral Partha and IWM at the meeting today. The second I twigged that you knew about Porchgate when you were talking about CGL as a company, I figured you were one of us. That has never once happened to me in the wild. PEACE!
>>94808046Does anyone ever actually use urbanmechs unironically?
>>94808093I find they can perform pretty well in low BV games where an AC10 can break lights open and their armor can survive when most of the threat environment is medium lasers.
>>94808093I do, one as a militia shitbox for use as a campaign ally and one for my dirt poor mercs as a tagalong for a Longbow.
>>94808093I'd use them for single/double blind games if I actually had any.
>>94807816I don't have any new ones :(
>>94808093Inb4 NEA posts the nuclear Urbie and points out that he's used it unironically
>>94807458Relax anon, they flocked under new SLDF in masses at the end of the novel
>>94808093I once started a hardmode campaign with a lance of them because it would be tough. The GM ratcheted it up from bugs and some tanks where the group moved like a Great Turtle that took up 4 hexes. Salvage was a godsend. Once I could cobble a few bugs and vedettes together, I was able to move larger prey into the guntrap of 4 AC10's. I kept working my way up until only a single Urbanmech remained in the lance with everything else having been replaced by faster machines. It was an unholy Frankenmech with Javelin arms and a PPC stuffed in the right shoulder Hunchback-style that was infamous for failing piloting rolls and falling on it's head. It literally killed 2 pilots that way. Granted, the second was kinda my fault as I sortied when the mechwarrior was already seriously injured but it was the only machine ready to go that would round out my force.
>>94808121Well now I'm glad I refreshed the page before posting.
>>94808093I'm about to use non nuclear arrow 4 urbies unironically. But it may be a terrible decision honestly.
>>94808121>that he's used it unironicallyThe line dev literally canonized it at the convention so he could use it unironically against the Kell Hounds.
>>94807680Imagine thinking you can be an active participant in spciety who believes more than one thing without making moral compromises.Even the falcons deciding they would rather die was a moral compromise
>>94808093When I ran a Chaos Campaign for my brother, one of my favourite options to include was>+100 "The People's Champion": Add a 3/4 Urbanmech-60 into the OpFor
>>94808138Not a terrible decision if you deploy them off-map and have TAG.
>>94807923Can we translate that to paint names that don't come with a 250% markup for no reason?
>>94808179No. If you don't use Citadel then you aren't a real painter and don't belong here.
>>94808138>things that never happened
>>94808191Unironically did.>>94808132Yo, NEA. Was that Gencon 2007?
>>94808201>Unironically did.Source?
>>94804411Then its very easy to add in advanced rules that say>okay for 1*x tons of extra weight for every 5/10 tons an adapter can be attached to a mech to carry it in a ready stateand it would be daijobu. The extra weight cost helps balance out the ability to carry heaviest mechs.
>>94807680>Calling Falcons Honorable>when Malvina Hazen permanently torpedo'd their reputation They may have started that way but in the end they died an ignoble waking death, holding on only by the good graces of fucking Alaric Ward of all people.
>>94808283Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't. I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.But the less shitposty answer is that you can find the source on Sarna if you applied the most token amount of effort
>>94808283I was there.
>>94808201>Yo, NEA. Was that Gencon 2007?GenCon 2010. Here's the Urbie's actual nuclear strike being dropped in the Master & Minions game.Better times.
>>94804049New Samarkand Regulars, the Ghost Regiments are pretty cool too.
>>94807259Yes, its acknowledged that he would have won by holding up in his Redoubt network if it was just the Wilves on Terra, unfortunatley Alaric invited Malvina to the party which threw Stones plan into ruins when she started glassing shit from low orbit.
>>94807259Yes. Stone could have won by continuing to build the Republic up during the early era instead of going into retarded cryosleep, trained a real competent replacement, and then dying peacefully in his bed in 3110.
>>94808341Are things really that different?
>>94808341>no date stamp >no urban mech>no location>could be AI or shopped This isn't proof of anything
>94808391
>>94808391The Urbanmech is on a different table dummy. AIV range is measured in mapsheets.
>>94808389People are smiling and having fun without a trace of irony present. That seems pretty different to me.The Battletech Kickstarter and its follow on effects has been a disaster for the community. Talk to a Battletech fan in 2010, and you know they're there because they love the game and they like, at least in broad strokes, the setting as presented. Now it's an increasingly large number of people who jump on because the game isn't GW and is popular, and they're making the community just as shitty as the one they left, because they don't recognize that the problem was always them in the first place. And that's leaving out the people who only enjoy Battletech because of what they think they can change it INTO, instead of what it IS.
>>94808417I think it would be more easy to just say "In 2010 there was a small, tight knit community that played this game, but since the Kickstarter the player base has exploded exponentially and it's not as much of a small insular community anymore."
>>94808425>it's not as much of a small insular community anymoreAnd that's a Good Thing.
>>94808417the devs and writers don't seem pleased with what battletech was either
>>94808425>the player base has exploded exponentially and it's not as much of a small insular community anymoreYes, he already said it was a disaster.
You can sort of get away with claiming that popular music or movies were better when you were young but anyone claiming battletech was better in 2010 runs into the problem that anyone can simply look up which books were published and what models were available then and make a simple comparison.
>>94808465Speaking of whom, this post happened last thread. >>94803276What's up with this? Does CGL actually post here? Why would they call individual players out by name?
>>94808526The Jihad era books were pretty awesome actually. It was more the mid 20-teens that sucked for publications.
>>94808526That depends on whether you think a game is better because the production quality is better, or whether you think a game is better because the community is more united over the game. What matters more? The product quality, or the community who plays with the product?
>>94808537yeah
>>94808548If you and your buddies have fun eating sloppy joes in the school cafeteria that's great but you don't get to call that food higher quality than steak you eat while seething about casuals later in life.
>>94808526
>>94808597Fanfiction has always and will always be cringe.
>>94808589>soft pvc pre-assembled models>steakSalisbury steak-like meat product from a frozen dinner tray, maybe.
>>94808341I showed this picture to my wife, and she said:>That looks like a great time.>The Pope is distributing a tree to a delighted crowd.
>>94808636>Even the uninitiated recognize the Battle PopeSo it should be.
>>94808589You can just say "production quality", anon. Probably because, as a Warhammer refugee, you've never experienced a comfy insular community before.
>>94808526Jihad was so much better than clanner wank. Fite me.
>>94808417What sucks for me is I consider myself more of a casual fan of the setting, loved the MW games growing up, loved the BT tv show, did not even know it was a tabletop game till my early 20s. Even then I leap in and out of the game as my interest is consumed by something else. Though I somehow feel GW refugees is not a huge thing for BT as GW still seems to be selling product hand over fist. I think we are seeing more people coming into the game from sources of companies that just fucking died during the pandemic, a ton of mini companies went out of buisness cause of covid
>>94808663So based. Monarchies are inherently evil and must be destroyed. The only legitimate form of government is techno-oligarchy.
>>94804979My honest confusion is what his reason was to attack his nominal allies
>>94804979gas the clans space war now
>>94808663Holy shit what a hero. He's literally me.
>>94808674I think the true question, anon, is whether you can take Battletech the way it is, warts and all, or whether your enjoyment of the game is predicated on changing it.Changing it can include insisting on the inclusion of identity politics (ie, Bryan Young). Including minorities is fine, including them at the expense of the setting is not (as in the aforementioned Clan black merchant caste lady).Changing it can include insisting that Battletech become a competitively balanced tournament game with a defined meta, at the expense of representing the games setting, balance be damned. Having tournaments with the understanding that it's a fun game that will never be balanced is fine, insisting that game balance matters more than representing the setting is not. Change it can include simplifying the game to make it faster or better "more palatable to modern audiences". Some level of simplification is fine as long as it's not at the expense of the actual game. The existence of Alpha Strike and the desire to replace Battletech with it, is not.Even if you're new, if you like the game and setting for what it is, then you'll be generally welcome. (Certain autisms excepted.). If you can only enjoy the game by taking away what it is from the people who have been here before you, then you aren't welcome, refugee or not.
>>94804411>battletech has a cool optional rule>it has an entirely random requirement that kneecaps it so no one uses itMANY SUCH CASESJust make the rules work for play, no one wants to have the option to have a mech get airdropped but if you can only use it if it's a sunday and your pilot has to wear a butt plug and you have to take its legs off and put them back on again. Just make it work for games or don't even bother putting the fucking rules in.
>>94808703Just use a dropship and the hot drop rules silly
>>94808719Dropships don't have cool rotor blades.And rules you can't feasibly use during gameplay shouldn't exist.
>>94804411That sounds really silly, why not just have those cheeks first, then leave it idled while the Tonbo carries your mech? Can't you just have it mostly deactivated then turn it completely back on when you're dropped off?
>>94808702Say it louder for the faggots in back!
>>94808702>The existence of Alpha StrikeSubstantially predates the new period of Battletech. Alpha Strike haters are just upset that the game which you can actually finish in 2-hours has become more popular than classic. I adore classic, but trying to pretend like people have time for it on weeknights and hating on Alpha Strike for being the more popular version of the game now is just silly.
>>94808719I don't WANT to be dropped off by a Dropship, I WANT to be dropped off by a helicopter with arms!
>>94808734If you allow the Tonbo to carry mechs in that state, the Tonbo becomes capable of grabbing enemy mechs, flying up to height 15, and then dropping them for hundreds of points of damage. Which would be really dumb.
>>94804442That's a big fucking Avatar, Mapbro.
>>94808746By what metric is alpha strike anywhere near as popular as classic?
>>94808663That passage is a good example of how they simply didn't bother to make up coherent motivations for the word of blake. It's all plots with in plots that culminate in totally random cruelty. The clanner obsession with earth at least was a longstanding feature of their faction and is acknowledged in universe as irrational and self destructive.
>>94808760You... understand you could just shoot them, right? Plus even if it grabs you, unlike a willing mech the enemy mech would just punch the Tonbo.And barring all that, if you missed every shot and failed your checks, you kinda deserve what happens next.
>>94808760It's not a crane game claw. It's reasonable to assume that you have to be consenting and stationary for the mounting process to work. It's also a huge, barely armed machine that wouldn't take any effort to lay into on approach.Alternatively doing that to disabled mechs actually is really funny and should be legal.
>>94808768It's absolutely played more than classic is, at least in the East Coast scene. Both of them get tons of play don't get me wrong, but week-nights people are always playing AS at the LGS's in the DC area, while Classic normally gets played only on weekends.
>>94808775What we should be asking is how to get Alpha Strike to be the exclusive game played on weekends too. Classic needs to die off already.
>>94808775no surprises, people are busy and tired during the weekdays, and AS takes much shorter time
>>94808774>Alternatively doing that to disabled mechs actually is really funny and should be legal.KEK this
>>94808746>Alpha Strike haters are just upset that the game which you can actually finish in 2-hours has become more popular than classic.Is that actually true though? There's no way to tell from product sales.
>>94808774I can see it now. A bunch of hooligans in BA armed with Tasers hiding in the middle of the jungle, waiting for an unsuspecting Mech to show up. The taze it to oblivion then a Tonbo shows up drops it off in the middle of a lake
>>94808786Nah, I dont lile it because it strips away a lot of the granulatity that makes the mechs relativley unique.
>>94808771>The clanner obsession with earth at least was a longstanding feature of their faction and is acknowledged in universe as irrational and self destructive.Nobody has argued that. It's the longstanding hatred of stuff like the Iron Guard on anything on the border, the fucking Sharts insinuating themselves into the FWL and everyone conquered just rolling over that sticks in the craw. This should be Invasion 2.0 and everyone is just like "Why I should I care about the Wolves WHEN THERE'S CAPELLANS TO KILL?" Let's not even mention the maximum retard plot armor of stuff like the Sharks interdicting entire systems with warships that would go internal with a singular ground scale PPC blast when faced with an enemy armed with an armada of HPPC fighters.
>>94808786Product sales would lie, I have personally bought the AS box just for the mechs in it, and I have never played AS itself and probably never will. I'll play Heavy Gear if I want that kind of game.
>>94808786Ultimately I can only tell based on anecdotal experience, but I have a good amount of that given I play both games at least a couple of times a month at LGSs.Honestly though I've only met like, three people who dislike alpha strike strongly in person, and I've met basically nobody who dislikes Classic (beyond the time commitment). I think the entire argument you see about it on the internet is mostly skub.
>>94808792Granularity doesn't matter. Can we actually finish a game in 90 minutes or less? That's the only way to measure what makes for a good game. Playing lance on lance in Classic takes 4 hours minimum, and a whole weekend for a company level fight. Alpha Strike is the only way forward for the whole franchise, and you Classic players are doing nothing but holding us all back.
>>94808179No. What are you, poor?
>>94808786Ignore him. That's Zoom Zoom level ancient shitpost.
>>94808734There is no reason anything in a mech can't be deactivated for a flight. That's what those complicated instrument panels are for. You don't touch them during battle because they are on-off switches for subsystems that otherwise work autonomously in the background. So flip the switch for the gyro and lie back in your chair while the Tonbo carries you.
>>94808806>>94808810Oh look, here's two Skubbites now.
>>94808702So you're not allowed to like AS and classic?That seems a bit much.
>>94808830Don't directly reply to the "speed is everything" troll, he still never answered why he's even putting models on the table when he could be flipping a coin and getting multiple games in per minute.
>>94808702Setting wise the only thing I would want changed is the inclusion of more aero and warships being a thing that can be played in all settings. Outside of that I am a fan of the lore, the fact that you get mechs made that generally just are not hyper meta focused and some that even suck. Rules wise rebalance of weapons which I said before is warrented, and maybe go away from d6s as the dice of choice. But even if I do not get any of that at end of day. I will still be hanging around loving battletech.Although, maybe one buisness practice of switching to print on demand for the books so I can get some of the OOP stuff or get stories that are not pdf only
>>94808807Not buying shitadel products is part of how I stay not poor
>>94808840That's not really what he said and you know it. That anon is obviously talking about cunts described in >>94808775 who are only playing AS. Liking both is fine, but doing only AS hurts the OG game and convinces people that AS is the version of the game that should survive.
>>94808786There was a poll on the Battletech reddit that showed Classic was about twice as popular as Alpha Strike, with several thousand responses.
>>94808840Wolfnet seems to think so. They only play Alpha Strike up here, and they rent out the excess table space so that you can't play classic at the same time. The Krulls are constantly telling our store ownership that they shouldn't bother carrying product for classic since it's on the way out.
>>94808886Clearly the only proper way to play is Megamek. Tanslate it into an AR game via megamek so it helps get rid of all the book keeping.
What are some interesting hinterlands starts you've seen? I'm going to go into my campaign with a Quickdraw 5Mr and Starslayer 3C (Mostly because I've ended up with three of the things and have so far had no use for them).
>>94808840>So you're not allowed to like AS and classic?>That seems a bit much.Welcome to the ancient 2012 fight where the leadership said they were trying to kill the OG game. Fence-sitting is faggot talk.
>>94808854Not him but armourcoat is what old citadel was before they lost the contract.
>>94808918My group is starting with a draft where each person can guarantee one mech and gets three random ones. I'm starting with a Linebacker, and I've decided that the backstory there is my merc stole it from the factory on Arc-Royal in a heist. I'll work out what the rest of the company is like when I see my other Mechs
>>94808927I honestly really like that idea. I may try to sell my group on something similar after our current campaign concludes.
>>94808927>Linebacker miniI see you are a fan of the most exceptionally rare...
>>94804049Conceptually I really like the Legion of Vega.
>>94808941This is where the "dishonorabu" posts should start.
>>94808941>>94808944Dishonrabr...
>>94808926I'm talking about now
>>94808983Still close enough. If you can't adjust you're shades, you fail as a mini painter. >I totally didn't stash multiple pots of Armourcoate to substitute my favorite gunmetal. No sir.
>>94808995I can adjust plenty if I'm told actual colors instead of Emperor's Gulpulzorb Blurple
>>94808936Not that rare, it's in the Support Star.
>>94809041Consider yourself gatekept.
Debates between Classic and AS, at least you both know you are not Aerotech.
>>94809048This discussion started eith me asking for actual colors, yes
>>94808614that's not fanfiction, that's bryan young
>>94809041You can look at comparison charts if you want to find an equivalent shade. If you're not trying to color match why even bitch about it?
>>94809090When did I say I wasn't trying to color match?
>>94808898>but muh official app didn't workI never understand whenever this is said. Just use electronic bookkeeping and dice rolls, or go the way of the dodo. If official events cannot make use of a working official app that doesn't exist, then use a 3rd party one that does.
>>94809099My bad, I missed that. But still, equivalents between companies is easy to find. So easy I don't know why anybody would complain about it. It's not like Citadel is the only company that uses weird names.
What do you lot consider a trap weapon/equipment? Obvious answer is AC/2, but was looking at binary lasers and they also seem like they are pretty bad. Could be wrong on the laser side though
>>94808898This kind of thing loses out on a lot of the nuances a proper wargame can have. It's like playing an instrument using tabs, you only really do what the creator of the program wanted you to do.
>>94809201Blazers are terrible but they are technically headcappers.
>>94808093If you use the force org rules they're a pretty cost effective choice for certain formations like ambush or rifle lances. Or if you just want another big autocannon on the field within a certain BV limit.
>>94809216Although as far as BV goes, that's only if you're playing an all mech game. Otherwise you're better off with a Hetzer.
>>94809201Blazers are wrong place, wrong time, wrong rules level. If it was an introtech weapon it could compete with AC/20s as a headcapper. The heat burden requires buying a bunch of SHS, but it turns out a blazer and six sinks weigh the same as an AC/20 with a ton of ammo. But the blazer isn't introtech even though it exists in the big succ, so it has to be compared to gauss rifles and ERPPCs and clanshit and just doesn't win those comparisons.
>>94809204You *can* bypass the rules in megamek
>>94809201>What do you lot consider a trap weapon/equipment?All standard ACs and HVACsLarge lasersBlazersIS ER lasersIS Large pulse lasersSRM2Any OS weapon IS MGs if taken in fewer than 10-gun quantities IS small lasers if taken in fewer than 4-gun quantities All Ultra ACs except the 20LB 2X and 5XLAC 2 and 5All IS LRMs after the Clan Invasion Any LRM5 if taken in quantities fewer than 3 launchers TSEMPAll Mech melee weapons Flamers if not using Starting Fires rulesArtemis IVNarcMRMsThunderbolt 5 and 10Light PPCsStandard C3 systems Ferro-fibrous armorOff the top of my head, that's it. If a Mech has any of these, it's almost certainly suboptimal shit and shouldn't see table play.
>>94809240Blazers should have been 16 damage/12 heat weapons, and it was cowardly of CGL to retcon them.
>>94809321Ferro-fibrous armorArtemis IVIS ER lasersSRM2Large lasersWhy these specifically? I get SRM2 somewhat though i like inferno rounds in them. Large Lasers and Ferro seem a bit out of left field for me.
>>94809338That list includes almost all inner sphere weapons so I feel safe in ignoring it.
>>94808775That brings up another interesting question. Is everyone who is playing AS on weekdays the same people who are playing classic on the weekends? Are there people who play AS who aren't already playing CBT?
>>94808127>the group moved like a Great Turtle that took up 4 hexesAnd since the Annihilator is four Urbies in a Trench Coat, it makes a nice Mother Hen for a Lance or Star of Urbie Chicks.>>94808537>What's up with this? Does CGL actually post here? Why would they call individual players out by name?It's a unique shitpost to /btg/ stemming from how Catalyst has treated the official Battletech Forums.>>94808677>The only legitimate form of government is techno-oligarchy.That's just Monarchy with Tech-bros!>>94808702>Changing it can include insisting on the inclusion of identity politicsWhat if we include crazier identity politics stemming from the setting?>>94808754>I WANT to be dropped off by a helicopter with arms!...Should we not tell him about the VTOL infantry?
>>94809338Ferro is always worse than Endo+more armor, 100% of the time. Artemis is required on every launcher, so it balloons in weight instantly. And it's negated by ECM, so it sucks.IS ER large lasers are garbage. Garbage range, garbage heat, garbage damage. They're like large lasers but worse.SRM2s hit with 1 missile too often, and require you to take a gigantic torso bomb that you will never be able to empty. The amount of damage they deal is not worth the risk of killing your Mech.Large lasers are hugely overweight for the amount of damage they deal. They don't gain enough range over medium lasers to be good, and five medium lasers is always better than one large laser.In comparison, these are good weapons PPCMedium laserLB10XGauss Rifles SRM4 and 6LRM 10-20 before the Clan Invasion Clan pulse lasersClan LRMsATMsMMLsRACsArm your units exclusively with these, and they will always be good.
>>94808844What's the deal with switching from d6? Is it still two dice for the probability curve?
>>94809375Marik Marauders with LLs instead of PPCs are better though.
>>94809387There isn't enough room on 2d6 to have very many modifiers. There's only 11 results, of which only 9 actually matter, seeing as how 2,3 and 11,12 are basically the same result. So with only nine results which matter, a +4 or -4 to your target number is huge, and there's plenty of units which can generate that just from their movement, never mind range and terrain. Take a regular pilot in a Spider, and have a match with another regular pilot in a Spider on a Heavy Woods map, and see how fun your game is with every to hit roll is a 13+ (4 Gunnery+4 TMM+3 AMM+2 Woods).Switching to 2D10 gives you about 15 results which matter, reducing the impact of any single given dice modifier. Battletech should be completely rebooted and rewritten for this reason, if no other.
>>94809392Can't go internal on headshots with large lasers. I accept your concession.
>>94809375The question was about trap options not sub optimal ones, and also you have clearly been spoiled by clan tech.
>>94809422Anything which is suboptimal in a competitive game is a trap.
>>94809422This great at parties anon probably thinks sub optimal = trap.Min max. You're there to win not have fun or have a quirky lance type.>captcha: HWPHeight Weight Proportionate, which he probably is not.
We must return to 3025.Pulse lasers were a mistake.
>>94809321>All Ultra ACs except the 20UAC10 gets a pass IMO because its an auto-psr if both rounds hit.>All Mech melee weaponsOnly if not using TSM>Standard C3 systemsAfter running C3 lances for a while, im convinced people's issues with C3 are unironic skill issues>Ferro-fibrous armorISFF is an issue, CFF is not.
>>94809424Good thing battletech isn't a competitive game then
>>94809419>misses all weapons including PPCs because rival Marauder is running in and lole lmao 4/5 pilots>overheats>rival is now pew pewing with 8+8+5+5+5 every other turnI'll take my chances
>>94809443It has tournaments, at each game has a winner. Therefore it's competitive. And all that matters is winning. However I did speak poorly. Simply being suboptimal does not make a weapon a trap option. Being suboptimal while being presented as being acceptable, makes a weapon a trap option. If CGL included big red text next to the bad weapons I listed that labeled them as being deliberately suboptimal, or outright bad, so that readers were duly informed that those weapons were suboptimal or bad, that would be completely fine. Those weapons would not be trap options in that circumstance. But as they are NOT labeled as being bad, and an AC/5 is presented as being equally as viable as a PPC, everything I listed is, in fact, trap options.
>>94809419I try not to bank on 1/36 chances that don't even automatically end the fight.
>>94809461This, when looking at a 2d6 spread you want to base your assessments on the most common sumbers, which is 5-9
>>94809460>If CGL included big red text next to the bad weapons I listed that labeled them as being deliberately suboptimal, or outright bad, so that readers were duly informed that those weapons were suboptimal or bad, that would be completely fine.I disagree, its a nice little litmus test to see who actually understands the game.
>>94809467That doesn't make those weapons not traps. Being bad, while presented as being good, is literally the definition of a trap option. That's what Battletech does with practically every weapon, but ESPECIALLY with ACs.
>>94809478Yeah, I agree with your main point. I specifically disagree with your suggestion that CGL add some sort of flag on those weapon descriptions, for the above reasons
>>94809478They add variety and verisimillitude. Sometimes circumstances force sub-optimal choices. If you want a solved, competitive game play chess.
>>94809460Rock paper scissors has tournaments and a clearly defined winner but I wouldn't call it competitive
>>94809422>also you have clearly been spoiled by clan tech.Fucking Clanners...
>>94809413That is a fair point. I wonder how hard it would be to house rule in d8/10s? You would have to change the base gunnery/piloting numbers and add more potential modifiers at the very least
>>94809504Hide the probability curve by using different sized dice and switch to symbols instead of numbers. Then only the biggest turbo autists will bother trying to solve the math and the neurotypical players will be forced into gut decision making.
CBT and BT in general is about picking the right machines, not the right weapons though. Instead of weapons being marked as traps, mech models should be marked as traps. Maybe in introgrogtech for a given timeframe and faction, your optimal choice may have an AC/5 on board but its balanced out by the sum total of the parts.
>>94809554>game is aboutBeing a narrative experience and not a series of optimal moves.
>>94809554>your optimal choice may have an AC/5 on boardIf it has an AC/5 on board then it's not an optimal choice. CGL just did a shitty job of game design and is too stuck up to admit they made mistakes and retcon them into something good.
>>94809554>is about picking the right machines, not the right weapons though.The machines are simply carriers for a particular set of weapons. So if its weapon loadouts are shit, the mech is shit
This trap weapon and sub-optimal mech discussion reminds me of how incredibly anti-fun everyone using super optimized boats in top PSR MWO is.
>>94809636Scenario restricted to fat recon lance: Griffin, Shadow Hawk or Wolverine?>CGL just did a shitty job of game designFASA. Give CGL rap for not having the cojones to reset the rules and completely rewrite them (while maintaining backwards compat or just declare retcon), but the state of autocannons was caused by ancient history.
>>94809656Wolverine, EZ. 6M variant specifically
>>94809670>is LLSomeone clearly doesnt understand the assignment
>>94809674Fine, given the criteria for not-shit weapons, 10D or 10R
>>94809670GRF-1N, SHD-2H, WVR-6R2/3 have AC5s. 2/3 have battlefists. Griffin has the biggest single gun but no short range except for its fists. Shad and Wolvie have AC5s, but generally the Shad is considered worse. Then many will look at the SRM6 and decide that having that is worth it when engaging in a duel, which typically the conversation will center upon Griffin versus Wolvie.Shad 2H is the trap mech and variant of the bunch.
Does anyone know where I can get megamek (hq, meklab and mm itself) in EARLIER editions that dont require me to delete/uninstall all java from my system, fucking eveything else up, just to install some malware cludge bodge job Nu-Java?Because I fucking aint doing that shit.
>>94809684For "fat recon" still the wolverine. Can reliably fuck up interceptors that try to chase it off, and outrun most of what can fuck it up
>>94809687Megamek github.They have releases all the way to 2016.
>>94809687Anon just get the normal Java runtime from the official source, Megamek will boot fine.
>>94809652>This trap weapon and sub-optimal mech discussion reminds me of how incredibly anti-fun everyone using super optimized boats in top PSR MWO is.Exactly, only YOU can prevent toxic meta!
>>94809652It's depressing man, that's one of the main reasons I quit playing. I just couldn't handle the sweatlords that infest the top tiers of that game. Before I gave up I started making alt accounts to play in lower tiers but even that got old after a while.
>TFW you realize that Clanners are basically the in-universe WAAC-no-fun-allowed-crowd.
>>94809814finessed
>>94809814Clanners are WAACful Stupid, they optimize for stupid pointless things.
>>94809814But they have rules for disabling weapons so that they can have fun imbalanced matchups thoughever.
How do they predict and prepare defense in advance, before raiders appear at the jump point?>X gonna be attacking the system/planet Y soon. Better muster soldiers and hire mercs
>>94809892You have an accountant figure out how much worth the planet and its produce has, so you requisition enough House and merc units to reasonably match. Garrison duty is hard work.
>>94809460Keep in mind, how viable stuff is can also depend on what rules you're using. If you're just playing a basic out of the box game then AC/5s are kinda trash, but autocannons can get a lot of buffs when you get into stuff like force orgs and SPAs.
>>94809892Usually you simply garrison everywhere worth attacking and trust your spy network to tell you about buildups large enough to brush those forces aside. Most worlds seem to work on star wars rules where there are only a few locations of interest all in the same biome.
>>94809814>>TFW you realize that Clanners are basically the in-universe WAAC-no-fun-allowed-crowd.Now you see!
Confess.
>>94810002Havent played a game in almost a year, been longer since ive painted a mech.
>>94810002Shimmy sounds like an asshole and his designs aren't perfect, but I still think they're an improvement over most of the old stuff. To be honest I just can't into like 90% of mech artwork and minis from before the early 2000s or so. It's just so stupid looking. In fairness, I do kind of like the sketchy artwork in some of the old TROs, but it looks like ass when translated into solid objects. I think I like the computer game ones the best, though.
>>94810002I haven't played a game in four months. It doesn't help that we're essentially two players in a 150km radius.
>>94810002I keep buying minis and making units without finishing the paints on what I've already been working on. I have something like 6 companies of 'mechs and vehicles with half-done paint jobs.
>>94810022mechcommander translated them wonderfullyI'll probably never be able to get into a battletech videogame if it uses shimmy's designs
>>94810002I use a completely overpowered Gary Stu character in my Megamek Campaigns.
>>94810061>wonderfullyif you don't have eyes or just enjoy the taste of shit in your mouth, yes. Otherwise these look like horrible toys from the 90s
>>94810104Malebrained AGP rapehon or heckin' validt extreme male mind ASD cuntboy?
>>94810002the new wh40k influx the game got was bad, they only talk about minis and never about playing them
>>94810061They're not bad for the time. PGI Hunchback is peak, though. Shimmyback is probably the worst of the lot. The head is way too big.
new thread>>94810168>>94810168
>>94810145People say this about the old models and then praise shimmy's tonkapunk designs.
>>94810002I'm making/fluffing Kuritan and Capellan female-only army only to be defeated and PoWed by my Davion boys
>>94810176We’re still on page 2, faggot
>>94810185MCA?
>>94809814what're you talking about? clans can have fun stuff
>>94810176Fucking why? This one is going to float around all day
>>94810247That one wasn't me. I've got some mechs allocated to Capellans but I don't find them interesting enough to paint or make lore for.
>>94810002I've only ever played Battletech twiceBoth times against my gf because I'm too autistic to ask people from my tabletop clubAt least painting terrain and stuff is going well
>>94809085Jesus Christ, do you need the EXACT shade of gray and red, down to a color hex code or something? IT’S RED. IT’S GRAY. THERE. GO PAINT. Serves me right for trying to help you out, next time somebody asks what paints I use I guess I can just tell them to eat sand.
>>94811527Meant for >>94809041, fuck
>>94811127You're already in a tabletop club though? Do you just lurk in the background instead of playing with people? The first time I played battletech was with my girlfriend.
>>94810176*Now* it's time, dipshit
