The Livery of Evil editionPrevious Heresy:>>94796927>New to The Horus Heresy? Here’s Everything You’ll Need to Get Startedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics>HH1 Black Books<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>NqlCmSpI>HH2 Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>1rki2Q6D>Miscellaneous Extras (Visions and Old Rules)<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>Q61izSiS『Adeptus Titanicus and Legionis Imperialis』>Adeptus Titanicus Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>IukARSLT>Legiones Imperialis Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>Fi9kQSwB>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.orug/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>homemade missions:https://clawsandfists.blogspot.com/2019/09/matched-play-missions-for-adeptus.html>Thread question:Do you like how your faction is portrayed (novels or otherwise)?
>>94816195>Do you like how your faction is portrayed (novels or otherwise)?no, I don't like how the IW are portrayed in the slightest. I fucking hate that IF fanboy john french.
So really the only worthwhile heavy weapons taking are lascannons and lascannon-like weapons?
>>94816360Nope.
>get curious and look up the profiles for titan weaponswhat the fuck
>>94816195My "faction" isn't depicted by any books because only faggots follow the armies of special characters or primarchs over making up their dudes.
>>94816360nope, there are also volkite culverins.
>>94816436I'm sure your donut steels are so much better
>>94816428>volcano cannon
I've got 450 points left in a Melee focused reaping list and I'm concerned about enemy Dreads and tanks since the core of the list is a command squad deathstar, 2 20 man despoiler squads, and two 10 man vet maul squads all with Rad Grenades. Should I add in 2 deredeos or 3 Predators with melta las.
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>>94816901I love the mini-titan minis. Your base is especially cool
When will we get the Alpharius spear teaser reveal?
>>94817244NEVER
>>94816360For me it's autocannons
>>94817246
>>94817244inb4 it's actually on a Necron model
>>94817244Don't you mean Omegon
>>94816360I've ran over multiple people who think like that with my MSU marine spam list.
>>94817367Buhbuhbuhbased
>>94817367Stormwing?
>>94817492No, just AL without a ROW. When you run your entire army into the enemy deployment zone, all those expensive "top meta" units only get to shoot/charge one of your units, maybe two. Which isn't enough to avoid getting swarmed by everything else.
Traitor Herald consul today?
>>94817560No, today we will finally get breachers, javelins or rapiers.I belieb.
>>94817779>We’ll have another Consul next week – but his flag isn’t nearly so shiny…
>>94817780Funny little dog
Alright. Scale of one to ten, one being “not that bad” and ten being “this is why you’re never going to be working with Black Library,” how fan-wanky is the lore that I’ve currently written for /my dudes/?https://docs.google.com/document/d/17uE5YZ3_wuU9xlQ7Wz5LxL7846mgDYGQmb5gYKaDN98/edit~~~~~>TQ:Well, my faction isn’t *technically* a faction at all because I mainly play/build Blackshields, so…I could do with some more variety other than “deserters,” “pirates,” “secretly loyalist,” and “secretly traitor.” I get that it’s supposed to be a template for making /my dudes/, but *come on,* gimme something to work with here.
>>94817780>Chinese doggybag
>>94817779Starter set with proteus speeder, boxnought, and MkII/V when?
>>94817842I'm still mad at the fake rumors of a mk2 and mk5 boxset with a new dreadnought chassis"antique early great crusade, melee focused"I haven't been that mad since the "Infernus Abomination" wasn't revealed to be a proto hellbrute or demon engineI am MAD
>>94817872>I'm still mad at the fake rumors of a mk2 and mk5 boxset with a new dreadnought chassis>"antique early great crusade, melee focused"Wait... people believed that?
>>94817877Believed is a big word, hoped and wished would be much more accurate
>>94817820You forgot about>failed/successful experiments>pseudo-shattered legions>psyker cults>oops...all techno-zombies>suicide/elite/warband force>drunk-driving xeno/civilian equipmentand more.
>>94817872What model is that?
>>94816428>>94816761Like, your disappointed? or? I look at the plasma blast canon and the laser destoryer and think yeah for 750 points on a warhound this is pretty good.
>>94818049Crow Industries 3D proont of the RT one.
>>94818068Titan weapons took significant nerf in heresy 2.0.Warhound costed the same and could do way more with turbolasers. Volcano cannon got hit the worst.
>>94818068Warhound is probably the best out of the titans, ironically enough. >Laser blaster: single 5" blast>Macro gatling blaster is AP 3, can be easily tanked by a single breacher sergeant with artificer armourThere's SO many underwhelming things with the other titans. And that's before considering that a single sabre with Neutron Blaster can just turn off your entire titan.
>>94818335>Not a single scrap of banner clothThey aren't even trying anymore.
>>94818335Brother Kakihara.
>>94818335Better than loyalist with hand towel on broomhandle
>>94818335That head looks like it belongs on a Raven Guard model rather than a SoH model.
>>94818335>primaris ear flapsoh no bros not like this
>>94818373You stupid nigger, where do you think primaris got it from. They aren't even angled like primaris.
>>94818335The fuck are those retarded leg coverings, what butthurt that everyone likes mk4 better so you started slapping shit on to make it look more like mk6?
>>94818335I love cadslop chainmail loyalist herald is actually the winner even with his dickcloth
posted this last threadSo the mech guy played vs a blood angels player, and they played dominion (main rulebook) Ended 7-4 VP to the mechanicum because the blood angels got tabled by turn 3. Not very based and narrative. The blood angels guy hadleviathanpraetor and command squad in spartancrimson paladins in spartanx2 tacts in rhinosx1 vets in rhinoHe killed 4 mech models in the whole 2 turns he got :'D
>>94818335This looks like something I'd find in a facebook ad as a render of an STL. If this is what they are going to do to mk4 I might as well start recasting the old sprues I still have left.
>>94818335>tiny dick platesmol pp energy
>>94818335>snoot and groin flapOmgThe powerpack looks like the old one, so I'm not sure what to think>despoiler extra leg armourMadness
>>94818335Why are the chain rings so thick, it's the same as the Death Guard praetorsIt looks like it's made of bullet casings
Man, fuck this long-ass wait to post.>>94818335Not sure I like that helmet.>>94818373Not quite ear flaps, but uncomfortably close.>>94818386>Where do you think they got it from?>Posts proper Mk IV without ear flaps.You're not that bright, huh?>>94818393They've been throwing extra plating on the character models recently. Lack of inspiration I guess.
>>94818432And they're not even connected, it's not chainmail, it's just a bunch of loops magically stacked
>>94818416actual warcrime in this very thread wtf
>>94818416question, are they mainly 40k players?
>>94818416People should just refuse to play against you when you bring that army.
>>94818472Nope pure 30k & Necromunda>>94818479notmy army but i refuse to play the guy
>>94818432>>94818441It's just a preset "chainmail" 3d model they seemingly use for all the low effort cadslop they shit out these days.The reason it looks like shit is because it was designed as cheaply and quickly as possible, wouldn't be surprised if they got some unpaid intern to do it. Would be really interesting to know who's actually designing this garbage honestly, but GW won't release that info or credit whoever made it in any way since England is a dystopian hellhole.
>>94818335This isn't a traitor consult, thats clearly just a SOH guy
>>94818500ENTER
>>94818503Not to be that guy but every "traitor" are meant to be SoH models, same for every "loyalist" being IFTL;DR: I agree
>>94818393Anon that's been on MkIV destroyers from the begining...It was void hardened armour before. it's just a detail now
>>94818335Very cool, love the roman theme with the vexilias
>>94818566That's not a vexilia though
>>94817877>>94817881I just plastic mkII is that so much to ask for
>>94818335I hope that's not what a normal nuMk4 helmet is going to look like...
>>94818535Yeah, but except for the bare head it would be very difficult to use the banner for say a legion aligned to a specific god, or a night lords force.It probably would work for AL as they would be doing it ironically
>>94818571Not in universe, but the aesthetic is that of a roman Vexilium
>>94818416Why are Mechanicum players like this?
>>94818335Peak 2.0 design. Must buy. Very human. ***** stars.This just looks like a DG holding up a SoH banner and axe with a WE iron halo and shoulder pads and a primaris helmet. Are we seeing rejected designs being cannibalized into one model? What even is the point of an herald if you can't even put your transfers or even paint on a flag and the flag is going to be the same for different armies?
>>94818589Would be nice if that was used for the... I dunno, vexilia? Then maybe we could have standards for the legion standards. Wild thought, someone tell GW.
>>94818335He's got nothing on the top lads
>>94816810you will surely not regret Rapier destroyers and Rapier gravitons
>>94818206>>94818231Thats fair, and thats how i felt about the warhound i was looking at Super heavies in general and honestly aside from teh Typhon, i felt like the Warhound is the better super heavy option out there if you wanna take a warlord unit.
>>94818616I think it's just the designers being>this should be able to fit all traitor legion>okay, so let's put elements from a bunch of them>what do you mean this looks like a low effort SoH?>what do you mean "jack of all trades master of none"?
>>94818578You can bet that it is going to. Mk4 and mk7 have been some of the inspiration for primaris armour so it would be very weird for GW to not be breathing down the sculptor's neck to include as many primaris design cues in numk4 to retroactively "legitimize" primaris. Kinda like how some 30k models have earflaps, dick curtains, the phobos bolters now have their holes starting before the casing ends and more. I fully expect warcom to drop lines referring to primaris in the reveal article for nu-mk4 when it gets announced.
>>94818578>>94818686Okay, but why are we going:>TS Librarian in Mk IV... means nothing>SoH Dark Emissary in Mk IV... means nothing>Little Horus in Mk IV... means nothing>Traitor Herald in Mk IV... This one is clearly the 1:1 representation of what Nu-IV will be! It's the only one we have!
>>94818335Nice primaris helmet.
>>94818702Little Horus is numk4, I am very sure of it, but not certain yetAnd how could I be certain when every single mk4 models is fucking different????
>>94818702>Okay, but why are we going:Because this is the most regular, plain, "vanilla" looking mk4 armor.Just remove the extra shinplates, trim and that one 3rd chest cable and you basically have regular mk4 armor.
>>94818702It's the most recent one thus the closest to the eventual mk4 release at the moment, it also helps that unlike the others he isn't covered in as many details.
>>94818206Destroyer works differently now, it's better>>94816428did you look up the ones in Liber Mechanicum or the updated versions in the FAQor are you just mad about Destroyer inflicting post-save pre-damage mitigation Wounds/Hull Points and rolling D6+[D6 or D6] for AP?because idk if you understand this but the inferno gun's average pen roll is 14 anyway, which means regardless of VDT rolls or lacking AP2/Wrecker it'll average 2HP from a land raider just for being fired and for anything with mixed AV that template is big enough to qualify for Side every timelike this is a weapon that you simply lay the template down for and delete units beneath it, thinking of it like a hand flamer is so so dumband it is the least of the titan weapons
>>94818669NTA but sell me on rapier gravitons pretty please, I'm debating getting rapiers and the laser destroyer is off the site atm and the grav one looks cool
>>94818733>>94818749I would caution against mistaking plain detail for no detail. I suspect the chest-cable on Little Horus might be the standard, while the other three have no such cables.Looking over them, my gut assumption is that the knees will line up with the greaves, which will flare at the bottom. The torso will have the single under-chest cables on the sides, probably a Y or X shaped cable over it.Arms probably won't be too different, but this is the first example of a Nu-IV helmet, though I hope it's not representative.
>>94818751>Destroyer works differently now, it's betterWhile I agree in general, Volcano cannon should be better. It's supposed to be titan killer, that eat superheavies for breakfast and is mostly used against titans, by titans or designed titan killing tanks. Current rules don't reflect that.
>>94818685At this point I'm not even sure what to think. They are putting out so many different shitty looking models and I don't see myself ever ordering any of them, not even for conversions. I miss when I could open a white dwarf, see the current progress of the FW sculptors and be inspired about what I could use the new things for.
>>94818639You could just scale-creep these and people would be applauding how awesome it is. Fucking retards over at GW man. Out of touch faggots.
tell me why I should take 3 decimators in mechanicum?its taking up the thanatar slot...
>>94818802I feel you, I feel you. Tears in rain.
>>94818780The helmet is definetly going to be the new standard for mk4. >>94818335It's the reason why it is so plain, it is GW's way of showing as to what it will look like.The trim could probably stay since the nu-dogshit-mk3 has it.But I hazard against is since regular mk4 has never trim on it, unlike regular mk3 which had trim on it.The shinplates are 100% not in the regular mk4 armor, that's just lazy detail sculptors put on because they can't understand "less is more".Also the left shin has studs on it, and regular mk4, usually doesn't have studs on it.Other thing that might change is the shoulder plate trim, it feels overly thick while mk4 shoulders have had pretty narrow trim on it usually.
>>94818702Bc it looks exactly like the kind of bootleg, 3rd party redesign they've done with the other 2 mks.On the other characters there was a lot more detail and could pass as artificer armour. This looks a lot more generic
I like the traitor herald guy but I do wish his banner was an actual flag for the banner decals/freehanding
>>94818847I think GW is avoiding resin bannersWish they'd ditch resin entirely
>>94818867I've never dealt with resin banners, how bad are they?
>>94818867>I think GW is avoiding resin banners>Wish they'd ditch resin entirelyRemember when Heresy 2.0 launched GW said that "legion generic" models would all be plastic?And it just turned out to be a fucking lie.
>>94818867>GW has secretly lost the technique of making good looking banners in resin but pretend the ersatz replacements are the sameI never realized their designers larped as the Mechanicum
>>94818875>>94818880Fucking this>melee in summer!>Wait fucking months>expects something smart like the special weapons>reveal arrive>1 single fucking kit>2x of this, 2x of that>here's 12 bolt pistols of different marks lol>want heads in your melee kit????>42 gorillion arms because we wanted to cheapen out with the 5 man sprues and couldn't be bothered to include melee compatible armssmall british company, please understand
>>94818822>ÆthertekBrutal AP2 S8 melee, WS5, S10 on the charge1/7 Butcher cannon shots are AP2Fear (1), Fearless so doesn't lose extra wounds for losing CC (same as Automata) no weakness to neutron lasers, doesn't need babysittingmakes 97% of armour saves successfully (as opposed to 83% for the Thanatar except against Blasts and Templates)it's a wee bit tougher to kill and easier to use despite the Corrupted weaknesses (how often do you even see a force weapon)
>>94818875Well, they aint fucking great. Here bro enjoy your heavy sheet of resin attatched to a thin pole of resin, hope it dont snap! Spoiler, it will snap.
>>94818942Ah.. I see. Sounds annoying!
>>94818951It is, best advice i can give you, is cut the banner near the hand, and attach a pair of magnets to it so you can take the banner on and off as you need to, that way its a lot harder to snap it.
>>94818978The deteriorating grey matter in my brain would've never thought of this
>>94818763The graviton cannon rapiers are very solid dreadnought/vehicle killers. A full squad won't kill a dreadnought in one turn, but they will in two. And because dreadnought talons need to deploy in unit coherency, the first turn they will hit two or three dreadnoughts at once. Which will then also be standing in difficult and dangerous terrain, slowing them down and sometimes doing even more wounds. If you got 180 points and an elite slot to spare, definitely give them a try. I know I got pleasantly surprised with their performance.
>>94819028My current list has a squad of 2 laser destroyer rapiers and all the elite slots taken up... but I have an idea now that you mention it...
>>94818923No, what? Why are you taking Ranged weapons. Just stick with the default Claws and stick two in your list for Dreadnoughts.
>>94818978This also makes it a lot easier to transport of you have fosm.
>>94816195>TQNick Kyme's work isn't great, and he's seemingly the only one interested in working on stuff for the XVIIIth.
>>94818942Bro spoiler that shit
>>94818880Spent all their plastic kit manufacturing on making obscure tanks nobody uses.
>>94819249And they leave sabres in resin onlyWHERE THE FUCK IS MY HECKIN CUTE LITTLE TONK GW?!?!?
>>94819325>>94819249Me over here literally shitting and pissing myself as i wait for them to release plasic rapiers.
>>94819325No that one can stay resin actually. Even better, it can go oop like the irrelevant Vindicator knockoff it is. There's only room for one tank destroyer in these parts.
>>94819249And making a new version of Mk III that nobody asked for.
>>94818335How come good guys never wield cleavers? They're such an evil-guy blade. Are there any other weapons like that?
>>94819363Did you forget Space Wolves exi-...nevermind.
>>94819352You have no taste and no soul.
>>94818599A lot of mechanicum players fell for the Outer Circle's nogames whining about mechanicum being really bad early on in the edition, so they feel like they're forced to waacfag or else they "won't be viable" when mechanicum is arguably the strongest faction in 2.0 when built that way
>>94819443Look, I despise The Outer Circle as much as the next guy, but it's just that mathematically inclined autistic fucks that want to optimise and min/max everything they do are naturally drawn to playing Mechanicum. Similar to how all the autistic screeching retards play IW, and all the degenerate freaks play Space Wolves
>>94819363Ultras and SW got plenty of axes as does Mechanicum. BA has their own axe and Sanguinary Guard got axes. IH can associate with axes due to their Mechanicum connection (Iron Father has an axe).
>>94818599You say it like people are supposed to dislike Myrmidons. Like being a Dakkamancer wouldn't be the coolest thing ever.They got buffed too much in the transition to 2.0, but what other "people that walks and shoots" is available to Mech?>ThrallsBS2, no reactions>ThallaxDoesn't walk; they fly>CastellaxNot "people">Titan GuardStopped at "Titan-". Rip actual Skitarii. Mega rip old fluff Hypaspist - Praetorian - Balisteria "Tech Guard" Skitarii >Kataphron combat servitors Unavailable>Tech priest AuxiliaGood, actually. But limited.
>>94817492>Multiple Small Unit>StormwingAnon, you're doing it wrong.
>>94818599Let's be real, there is not much of cool or good mech units.Myrmidons are most mech unit there is. Tech priests.It's FW faction issue not player issue. It would be much better if you could run skitarii as troops. You know troops that isn't dogshit but also not 2-4W.
>>94819495>Not even regular battle servitorsWhy has all the actual cool mechanicum shit not gotten any rules or models for HH...
>>94819558Technically they aren't the actual Mechanicum armies (Skitarii), but the personal retinues of individual Magi (Taghmata).That's why you have Taghmata Satarael instead of Skitarii Incaladion, which is where he's from.
>>94819574Forgot my pic lol
>>94819574>>94819583Well you might be right, but in game you are playing mechanicum and your troops choices are either, dogshit slaves with some cybernetics, or big robot guys. There is no "standard" troop choice that is not too elite but not too bad.
>>94819554>>94818599DESU and this is gonna rustle some feathers. Mechanicum and Custodes never should have been an individual army, they should have just been allied detachments. With Mechanicum focusing more on Heavy Support and super heavies then anything else.
>>94819619Custodes sure. But for Mechanicum that makes no sense, they were completely independent before the Great Crusade started.
>>94819619Mechanicum make no sense. They are their own soverign state allied to Imperium, the should have their own standing arny(skitarii/taghmata) alongside titan legions. They should have their own armed forces. In fact pre 7th ed siktarii were cybernetic imperila guard in painted red, hard wired to their vehicles etc.Custodes sure, there is not enough custodes in 30k for it's own army outside Webway for own aremy and should be specialist super elite allied detatchment.
>>94819619This but for everyone except SoH and IFs. It's pretty dumb that the most important factions in the heresy have as much importance as legions like the TS or the WS.
>>94819495There is an arcana that lets you take auxilia priests as troops anon. That's 10 units per army each being, when maxed, 3 priests and 10 automata. If you want more just add militia. If you want some more variety play 1.0.
So for helical targeting arrays in Death guard, does the first part of remorseless (ignore any movement restrictions) allow you to ignore the model may not move restriction on the array? I know that sounds like a stupid question, but I know I've had some questionable interpretations of the death guard rule in the past so I want to be sure.
What would work better, army-wise and thematically, for a Space Wolves force?The Cerberus or the Sicaran Venator?
>>94819915>CerberusReason?Cerberus is a dogA dog is a descendent of a wolfBecause its a wolf, its required.
>>94819915Sicaran venator. All your units are gonna be running at the enemy, there's not gonna be anybody staying behind to babysit a cerberus.
>>94819936>Sicaran>A single las canon gets a lucky roll>No more sicaran.
>>94819941>cerberus >a single lascannon gets a lucky roll from the side >no more cerberus
>>94819965Anon there are a reason no one runs Sicarans, they are shit and over priced. Granted the Venator is the best one out of them, but they still suck.
>>94819979And there's a reason even less people use cerberus. At least a sicaran doesn't hand the opponent VP each time it blows up.
>>94819788Yee that's a cool one>>94819609Totally. Feels like a boolean: Mech units are either heavily armoured (T5 Thallax, Myrmidons, etc), or not (Thralls, Servitors).There is no half measures with them. This unit is meant to survive, this other we don't care about. Allocate resources accordingly.I can live with that to be honest, feels fluffy to me
>>94819877Would you like LA(DG) allowed Deredeos to move and still Helical?
>>94819997>And there's a reason even less people use cerberus.well yeah if given the option take a typhon. But between the 2 the cerberus would be a better take to survive.
>>94819877RAW it seems so. And the model counts as remaining stationary too... so a DG model with helical targeting array can zoom around full speed and still have the helical targetting array active. Why do DG vehicles feel more like what WS should be doing, top kek.
>>94819915Sicaran Venator fits better with Wolves.
>>94819363looks nice as a world eater, but EC and TS seem like the least appropriate traitor legions to show that model off as.
>>94819510>Tired-marine posting intensifies Hope you are all getting hobby stuff done and games played in the new year. Too busy to get much drawing done this month but will hit my stride soon (hopefully)>t. agent 47
Alright how does this sound for a Reaping list? I have a gameplan I want to try and do but I'm not looking to dickstomp, and yeah I know Despoilers aren't great and I should probably use Assaults instead but they're what I've got.>Death Guard (Loyalist), the Reaping>Praetor, MC Thunder Hammer, Rad Grenades, Shotgun>9x Command Squad, Power Axes + Boarding Shield >Land Raider, TL Lascannon >2x Chaplains, Mc Power Axe>2x20 Despoilers, 15 Chainswords, 4 Power Axes, Power Fist, Vexilla >2x10 Veterans, 9x Power Mauls, Thunder hammer, Rad Grenades, Vexilla >10x Recons, 10x Nemesis Bolters, Augury Scanner >2x Apothecaries >2x Land Raider >Deredeo, Hellfire Plasma, Aiolos Missile Launcher
>>94819915Venator. Rapid tank destroyer fits SW better than a super heavy one and the sicaran is a smaller waste of points
>>94819660They do have skitarii, we just can't play them. Same way we can't play Imperial army even though that's by far the most amount of soldiers fighting in the conflict
>>94820273i'm getting some TS done
When will we get redone terminators?What will GW change about their design for seemingly no good reason?
>>94816428There are technically titan weapons on every thunderhawk which seems a bit silly considering they're supposed to be the cheap mass-produced replacement for the stormbirds. I doubt those weapons are easy or cheap to make.
Got the transfer on brother strong-hand’s banner. Had a bitch of a time getting it not totally off center, put the son of a bitch on sideways the first time. Happy he’s done, I love him
>>94820642You can look at the IF character to see what nuCataphractii are going to look like. Same as nuMk3, no rivets, no overlapping armour plates and off-looking details that make it seem like a bootleg
>>94820685Where is itAnd he's not done til you base him
>>94820672They only have a turbo laser, and its not even a duel laser destroyer. Mind you the laser destroyer is just a big ass laser canon so its not terribly difficulty to make. The thing that makes titans impressive and rare/difficult is not so much the weapons, of warhounds at least, its the actual machine itself.
>>94820700True, I do have to base him and the rest of the command squad, it’s just not as intense a process as the rest so I consider it “done”Little starburst/palm tree in the black circle
>haven't had time or energy to touch my Ligma project since my holiday vacation endedAAAAH I FUCKING HATE WORKING TO AFFORD A LIFE I CAN'T ENJOY
>>94820705>Little starburst/palm tree in the black circleThought you freehanded that, honest
>>94820715If I had freehanded it, it would look way more fucked up. It’s one of the transfers from the black shields sheet.
>>94820273Already finished the painting on two drop pods this year, and now working on a 10 man terminator squad.>>94820642I don't even wanna think about that.
>>94820273I have completed a couple of EA militia things.>2 more hovercrafts for my small cavalry forceGoing to be counting as amphibious salamanders.>selenar sisters for my selenar forceGoing to be both the hq units and the discipline masters.I'm also getting started on my fellesians.
is using a storm eagle just a categorically bad idea in this iteration of the game ?
>>94820801>come in >get sniped by literally anything with a gun heavier than S6>if you explode you crash and burn >if you get wrecked you crash and burn >if you don't die but get immobilized you have a 33% chance to get fucked loser, crash and burn >trying to come in hovering simply guarantees you'll die anyway, you just won't crash and burnFlying transports aren't just a trap, they're a Death trap
>>94820273I finished this Dark angels Sicaran, I 3d Printed the Omega turret and still got the battle tank turret ready as well. I did put a lot of work into it with modelling stuff, which makes me happy! >Too busy to get much drawing done I feel you, I have picked up a sketchbook again and I love it, although its less 30k themed I suppose
>>94818639Painting these guys right now, absolutely beautiful models but I seriously question why they made the banner like that. Not sure I have a single (fittingly flashy) transfer on my SoH transfer sheet that will fit on that little spot in the middle.
>>94820899Watch me, meatbag.
>>94818335I am asking unironically but will this guy be Primaris scale? I want the head for a Ravenguard Lieutenant
>>94820857lets not forget about combat air patrol too
>>94820616whats the red recipe?looks like a matte red with a gloss finish, rather than metallic?
Does anyone here actually play this game or do you all work on endless "projects" and "theorybuild lists"
>>94821014i played some games earlier this week and got beaten hard
>>94820984baal red over vallejo gold metal color, with some gloss varnish
>>94820890They made the banner like that to flex on paintlets who can't freehand.
One of life's great tragedies is that I will never get to kill another man by shooting him with a lascannon
>>94820953Even if the body is primaris scale, HH nu-heads are notably smaller.
>>94818416Very based narrative. Conveys why the Emperor planned to purge the Mechanicum later down the line and really makes the players appreciate the tragedy that the Heresy meant those plans would never come to fruition.Pure ludokino narrative. Maybe you're just too much of a waacfag to appreciate the cinema while getting btfo'd?
What are these things on the back of SAs supposed to be?
>>94819443they do this shit in 40k too. whinge about being an "underpowered" army then use it as an excuse to run cancerous armour skewlists with no infantry.
>>94821152Enviormental unit. That pent runs and operates that pump just below it to help filter the suit for void conflict and other various hazardous environments.
>>94821152compressor for a life support system it looks like
>>94821152that is the animating motor that gives impetus to their low-grade exoskeletal armour
pneumatic exoskeleton btwit surely has play on the environmental support systems that render an SA's suit pressure-proof and the like but it is surely the thing that underpins the armour's pneumatic assistive properties otherwiseauxilia are very well outfitted
>>94821152Hot Wheels storage case.
>>94821152Drum mag for the sword, you can see the tubes leading to it.
>>94820801The only real use case for a storm eagle is as delivery for a close range shooting unit of over 10 models. Thanks to the latest FAQ that clarified that Intercept takes place before passengers disembark, you can deep strike a storm eagle in hover mode and have its cargo deploy safe-ish. It will only inflict the usual damage to embarked units if the enemy manages to explode it, instead of the turbo death when it is flying. tldr: you use it as a kharbdis drop pod, taking up a FA slot instead of a HS slot.I am planning to drop in a 15 man DA interemptor squad with it.
>>94821014I play regularly, between one to four times a month. Also participating in a HH campaign currently.
>>94821501do you think a squad of twenty chainaxe tacticals and their apothecary might render decent justice upon such a method of insertion?
>>94821598Sure. Just keep in mind that they can't charge in the same turn they arrive from reserves. But dropping 20 marines with bolters in rapid-fire range sounds fun.
>>94821014I'm as secondary as they come. I don't even play, they are model kits, not minis to me
honestly I might say fuck it and take a headhunter leviathal list with some stolen sunkillers because FUCK YOU
>>94818791S14 AP1 Destroyer with a 10" blast? front-end on a Warhound it'll do at least 1HP automatically, up to 6 from a single hit (1/9)big dog only got 12HP
>>94821943alpha legion are especially prickly and nasty to fight in every circumstance so go wildjust as long as it's no thang when someone eventually rolls up on you with six scorpii to katuysha your shit to smithereens
>>94822038>12hp12+2Voids. so 14. Also what profile is the s14 AP1 Destroyer massive blast? Thats like warlord titan volcano canon yeah?
>>94822072belicosa's pie plate is 9"standard volcano cannon has but a 5"
>>94822091Ok so what volcano canon is 10"? like that anon was saying.
>>94822096i think he rounded up
>>94822096Belicossa and nemesis volcano cannons were FAQ'd to 10"
>>94822116Ah ok
Are Kratos tanks worth anything or are they worthless for Hesesy? A friend’s got two they’re trying to get rid of.
>>94822209They're a bit overcosted. I think they're cool and like them, and they are great if you're going tank-heavy.
>>94818416>don't bring any shooting>put all your eggs in one basket>lose terriblywow what a shock
>>94822209>they’re
>>94822341No you don't get it anon spamming av 14 lascanmom skew lists is trad and based so anything that bypasses theit bullshit (Grav and Shock pulse) is cringe
>>94822398"A friend's got two they are trying to get rid of" is grammatically correct, ESLanon
>>94822052fine by mei'm just struggling to make a headhunter list in general, I know vehicles are relatively off the table (besides options with no downsides like aircraft), so land speeders are probably my best bet for heavy weapons on the field with mobility
>>94821014Somehow I'm in a group of 20 people.
>>94821014I play semi often hard because of work and life, but usually we play in big bursts of games were like we will play every weekend one or 2 games for like 3 months for an event, then cool off for like 7 month then pick it up again.
>>94819443>>94821167>I have to be the WAACfag or a WAACfag will bully me.>Everyone in my group is a WAACfag so I have to WAACfag outside of it with people who clearly aren't WAACfags>The rest of the army is so bad that you will automatically be a WAACfag against it.Did I hit all the typical arguments?
I'm nooticing that DA players are either unironically gay, use primaris bits or both. Why is it? What about the Dark Angels specifically that attract these two types of faggots?
>>94822687HOW DARE YOU! i jsut like my knight looking dudes and black armor because its easier to paint and deal with.
>>94822687>I'm NOOOOOOticing
>>94818416If something being narrative means you're not allowed to take good units or have to take bad units then that's even less narrative pilled dumbass>have important task that must be accomplished at all costs>"lets purposefully avoid taking our useful soldiers and use all the disposable shitters instead"A game is as narrative as you play it and make it; if someone bringing too much of a unit you don't like is the deciding factor in whether a game is a narrative one or not it sounds like you need to do some self reflection. There's room for cool story telling in a game where your army has to deal with an overwhelming threat, there's no measuring stick for how narrative something is or isn't.Very interesting how you, who wasn't even playing the game, also chose to post how you felt about the game and not how the players felt about their own game, and how you felt the need to post this again, like as if you didn't get enough attention last thread. Stop acting like you even give a fuck.
Finished 5 Cataphractii. Hopefully within the next 3 days I'll have another 5 done and a Cataphract Chaplain.The plan is to run them all in a Spartan and put the Chaplain in there to mitigate the negatives of being WS 4. I've never really used Cataphractii in game before but wanted to try with the SoH legion trait, does anybody have any advice on how to run them and what they are good for? Would they be any use as 5 man squads on foot in a Pride of the Legion list for example?>Photo taken via iphone 7
>>94822819So basicallya narrative is a thing where YOU go out of your way to make it so that I win. Both of us trying to win and leaving it up to the roll of the dice and good play isn't narrative. You're trying to Win At Any Cost if you won't submit to me demanding that you let me win, which I'll happily do at the cost of anyone ever actually playing a game with me.
>>94822869For a second I thought you were bring serious because I know people who unironically think like this and they all play Dark Angels, Space Wolves, or Blood Angels
>>94822901>>94822869>>94822819Narrative means there is a story behind the mission and you use missions in the book more as guide lines then you do hard set stone and generally will pick a mission to fit the idea of what you are doing. Narrative means your army has a theme behind it, that theme might means its strong, that might mean its weak.If you show up with las canon heavy support squad, 3 javalins, a Scorpios or 2, basic bitch troop tax and what other busted unit,thats not being narrative, thats using narrative as a cloat to be a try hard. If you show up with 3 HSS, with rapiers and 2 tac squad and you make a gun line but your theme is that its a heavy weapons or long range crew? Ill buy it.You can show up with 50% of your armor being fast attack, and the other 50% being elites/heavy supports and it being the spear hear/pride of the legion, and ill believe it. Showing up with a netlist or stone warden bullshit for example is not narrative, its being a cunt. Narrative is reenacting a scenario.
I'm still baffled as to who at GW hates knights and/or has a bone for Dreadnoughts, why is every single knight Melee weapon just worse than Dreadnought Fists. It's not like they're tougher, and they're 2.5x more expensive on average (we don't talk about the atrapos).
>>94822963Because GW did not like that knights were fun in 1.0 and did not like that people were not buying baby knights. So they buffed and made baby knight tax a requirement for big knights.
>>94822973But weren't 1.0 knights so devastating because the battlecannon and gatling were ap3? Why would you make their Melee ass too?
>>94822687>Fantasy-knight stylings that make buhart fighters cry>faggy snowflakes in 40k>faggy snowflakes in 30k>faggy snowflakes is literally their fluff>excessively strong rules>more convoluted rules than 1.0 TS>easy access to shitty primaris bits that 15 year olds and those with sub-eighty IQ think are totally fine because “they’re covered, you can’t tell that torso is a primaris bit, and if you do you’re a bad person who tries to ruin fun!”>EVEN MORE SNOWFLAKE CHARACTERS>EVEN MORE SNOWFLAKE WARGEARThe list goes on, but it gets repetitive real fast because, despite having a shit load of fluff and a shit load of rules, they’re all really just the same thing repeated with just enough different words to trick people into thinking “uuuuuooooggggghhhh they’re so unique and special, just like me!”
>>94822901You can tell it's ironic because I don't think these fags actually know what WAAC means.>>94822951>If you show up with las canon heavy support squad, 3 javalins, a Scorpios or 2, basic bitch troop tax and what other busted unit,thats not being narrative, thats using narrative as a cloat to be a try hard. Explain the difference between this and>If you show up with 3 HSS, with rapiers and 2 tac squad and you make a gun line but your theme is that its a heavy weapons or long range crew? Ill buy it.>You can show up with 50% of your armor being fast attack, and the other 50% being elites/heavy supports and it being the spear hear/pride of the legion, and ill believe it. these other than that it makes you mad when people don't hand you the win?>Showing up with a netlist ... its being a cunt. >Narrative is reenacting a scenario.Reenactments are by definition based on netlists lol. They're more heavily researched and the collaborative products of more minds working together than tournament lists are.
>>94822687>whining about Primarisbits in a """historical""" game where every retard at your LGS uses the most god awful 3D printed slop bits and vehicles that barely even look like what they are supposed to represent because making an army of the real thing costs a gorillion dollarslmao
>>94822951But aren't the most waac lists spamming the best unit in your army (Dawnbreakers, Inner Circle, Suzerain) with support to cover their weaknesses in a rite of war themed around them? That makes them narrative by your definition.
>>94822981Becuase knights were strong as fuck in melee as well. Look up the stomp rules in 1.0. you basically got to drop 3 small blast templates in melee range on top of your melee attacks that if you rolled a, i think 5 or 6? on teh stop table, they dudes jsut fucking died.Knights were bonkers OP in 1.0 but if you self regulated and made it so your list was only ever actually like 50% knights 50% infentry it was a fun list. >>94822989Easy the former is going outta their way to take the most broken shit in their list while hodge podging it all to gether.The later if you are taking HSS rapiers, you are very clearly running a theme of a gunline/heavy support secion of a legion that would be designed for either siege defense or attack. Running lol random javalins, HSS Las canons, Scorpious and dread spam and shit like that is clearly picking every single busted and over powered unitOne has soul the other does not. Its a matter of you cant describe a list that is not narrative, but you will know it when you see it . >Reenactments are by definition based on netlists lolShow me the netlist for the renactment of a conflict between the space wolves and the Thousand sons that is thematically meant to be a battle in the city of Tizca. Show me the netlist that would have been used when Horus and the death guard assaulted Molech
>>94823030>>94823030>That makes them narrative by your definition.The difference between a narrative and a TFG list is a case of, you will know it when you see it.
>>94822901I know the same kinds of people and will summarize:>agree to play game with known, mutually agreed upon rules>establish no additional stipulations>play game>lose>instead of accepting the outcome, get mad about it>concoct a rationalization for why you are a victim>claim that actually you lost because you played badly on purpose>claim that playing badly on purpose is a moral imperative>claim that your opponent violated that moral imperative, making you the victim of a moral wrong>victim status achieved, now you can believe you lost because of the immoral behavior of your opponent>time to post it online so that other people who lost games and got mad about it, or think that they would lose games and get mad about it under the same conditions can all agree that losers are victims and the people who beat them are evildoers despite everyone having agreed to the specific conditions of the game beforehand and had nothing to say about them at any time where it would be relevant.
>>94823077Ah, so crybullying.
>>94822846Nice green anon.
>>94823077Honestly this attitude is kind of why whenever i wanna play Mechanicum I bring my while collection so I can see how many lascannons they've got available and bring more tech thralls and tech priest auxilia accordingly, or else they start get grumpy about how multiwound T5 is too strong.
>>94821152Chain driven something-something to look cool and grimderp. I'm glad the plastic kit piece is separate, so it's easy to modify or replace.
>>94823113Ty, I have been struggling to find a method I'm fully happy with so it's good to hear. :)
>>94822963dreadnought fists are worse against vehicles than reaper chainswords (and identical with armiger chainblades)meanwhile dreadnought fists have brutal 3 but nothing else to recommend them; extra wounds gated behind the less-likely wound roll (a dreadnought fist is 15% less likely to wound in the first place because it lacks Shred)reaper chainfists meanwhile average a 17 when rolling armour pen which will even penetrate a Warlord's armour (and a knight is 2x as likely to even hit a Warlord in the first place, or would be if either knights or dreadnoughts had a WS approaching 9), while a dreadnought fist can only glance itthunderstrike gauntlets are like a lasHHS that walks over and puts shit in your mouth before they kill you, literally only flyers are safe from themtempest warblades are for beautiful anime girl pilots who are sad about being clones or something, I really only got the bones of the story from reading the hentai but that sword kicks ass, shock lances are same but for stabbing vehicles in particularlas-impulsors and phasecutters being Cumbersome makes no difference when attacking titans but will easily penetrate themwhat do you suppose knights are forif only there was a game specifically about this to use as an example
all I want is a melee Acastus variant that looks like the dude in the back here and wails on infantry and tanks alike so that I can listen to the whining of Mech players saying it should have WS10 and a jump pack
>>94823283A Melee acastus would have to have gorilla arms in order to reach the ground.
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>>94823016NTA but I’m more than capable of bitching about all of the above, and hating you too for being an enablist piece of shit.
They're revealing this tomorrow or Saturday?
Goddamn it lads, I'm really digging the Solar Auxilia aesthetic and I might give 30k a goGive it to me straight, what's the catch?Am I going to have to spend 2-3 times as much for a Solar Auxilia force compared to a space marine force?Am I going to be spamming Veletaris Storm sections and lasrifles are useless? Are they boring? Also is it just me or are the resin kits just way better than the plastic?
>>94823497Neither, it's not at lvo.
>>94823510It's just Guard in 30k where you're supposed to be a punching bagYesNoYesLook better, assemble worse, and give you cancer
>>94823510>Am I going to have to spend 2-3 times as much for a Solar Auxilia force compared to a space marine force?Yup>>94823510>Am I going to be spamming Veletaris Storm sections and lasrifles are useless?>Are they boring?No, lasrifles are the best infantry because they're the cheapest. No point in veletaris other than rule of cool>>94823510>Also is it just me or are the resin kits just way better than the plasticYes
>>94822052Looking at this pic, for the very first time in my nearly 50 years of life on this earth, I find myself being jealous of John Lennon. It'd be really nice to have a space marine bodyguard and a big tiddy Gyaru girlfriend.
>>94823510The catch is you'll just need to paint a lot of infantry. If you are coming from 40k, then keep in mind instead of playing games at 2k points, 30k is usually played at 3k. Also a bare bones tactical marine is only 10 points in this system, so although I don't have the exact point costs on hand you can imagine Solar Aux would be a fair bit cheaper per model. You could also just spam tanks, that's totally viable. Just go into it knowing you will likely need to paint around 50 infantry models at the minimum (you can probably run less than that, but people will likely roll their eyes at you at that point).>Also is it just me or are the resin kits just way better than the plastic?Resin kits typically have more detail since they are usually passion projects for the people designing them and they don't need to be produced on a mass scale to recoup their costs. The difference between a plastic press and resin mould to a businesses costs is insane, which is why every smaller company that does miniatures and can't rely on economy of scales to recoup costs sells in resin. Resin kits have unironic -soul- in them. You know some designer spend many hours working on each bit. Just remember though, plastic IS easier to work with and paint. If you get resin Solar Aux kits, be prepared to spend as much time preparing and building them as you would spend painting them. These are small models you'll be working with.
Going to make the riders pop after all the airbrushed stuff dries. Going to make the plume of smoke under it turn more and more white as it gets to the bottom of the speeder. Then maybe do some chain motifs over it. So I would say it's like 50% done, if that.
>>94823254Dreadnought fists (just like nearly every other brutal weapon) are just disproportionately good at killing termis, and since virtually every army is going to have at least a few hundred points invested into those, it makes them really good.The bigger issue is that dreads don’t have any weakness to armourbane/sunder, which makes them this weird thing that big heavy weapons often don’t get any bonuses against. If armourbane gave a 2+ to wound dreads, sunder gave reroll to wound, and dreads got the ~25-50 point increase they need, lascannons lost sunder, and a few other fixes that aren’t directly related to knights/dreads, there’d be no issues. The issues are there because of other weird ass rules that didn’t need to be added/changed with 2.0 and just fuck everything else up.
>>94823510The infantry is okay because it's cheap, yes you will paint shitloads of it and it will almost all die every game, your challenge will be to keep enough line units alive to score points. The thing you will be spamming is tanks, get used to painting tanks.
>>94823590You know the hips are supposed to attach to the torso, right? They’re not supposed to dangle six inches below the guy’s body, they’re not ichneumonid wasps.
>>94823639The torso ball socket and the hip ball sockets are whats glued together. If Their feet weren't glued I would be able to just take them out as one bit. Not sure what your on about.
>>94823558You were born too late, Anon. We can't have space marine bodyguards and big titty gyaru girlfriends. Because of woke.
>>94823595>armourbane gave a 2+ to wound dreads,Brutal 2 vs Dreads, Automata, etc . Give it some actual fucking parity with its effect vs vehicles and justifies the jacked up Price on melta Supports. >but the gravis melta cannon will too be good Then jack it up to 20-25 points like it deserves, no anti tank weapon on a contemptor should be under 15 points.
>>94823650That part above the codpiece is the ball of the joint, it’s not supposed to be sticking out. You’ve either leaned your guys too far back, or glued your legs/foot rests wrong.
>>94823715Not on these models. I thought it was a weird design choice personally. But I can assure you the ball is in the socket.
I put a grav flux bombard on my leviathan because I misread the rules and didn't realize that it didn't leave behind the template as dangerous terrain and still allowed normal armor saves.I am not a clever man but it looks so cool
>>94823744Somehow that’s much worse than you fucking up. Printshit is shit I guess.
>>94823786Yeah if they released a plastic one I would buy it, but I'm not spending 150 for sub 120 points.
A good hobbyist looks at models the same way a carpenter looks at trees.
>>94824171big lad!
>>94824171Interns posted the article earlyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lpgnmwro/lvo-preview-2025-the-thanatar-calix-cares-not-for-your-armour/
I still want it to be able to point its maulers at something but it's still very cool. Especially with the firing spade in the calve now extendable.
I’m trying to print scouts in scale with marines. Should I shrink them, and if so by how much %?
>>94824171lmao can't take that shit back.I give the AoS zombie dragon best in show. Ashwastes shit was expected after the dwarf book, but cool and it looks like the stuff will be usable indoors. Old world is only interesting in that they seem to have managed to free reavers and swordmasters from the island of blood sprues. Emperors children are actually less terrible than I expected!
Played against custodes with iron hands in the strike and fade Mission, it was really fun using tanks to block movement reacts that would let the custodes to move onto the objective.
>>94824973>tank blocking WAACfag
I'm making 2 more Terminator heralds but tortuga sells bodies in suites of 5, so I've still got 3 bodies left over. I'm thinking of converting 1 into a second Chaplain as well which would be 2 left. What consuls or weapon upgrades for my cata squads should I make? I've got a praetor, Champion, Librarian, Primus Medicae, Chaplain, Warmonger, 20 Catas with Fists and Bolters, 4 with Lightning Claws, 4 with Chainfists and Reaper Autocannons, and a 5 man Command Squad with Thunder Hammers.
>>94825069a forge lord and primus nullificator ?
>>94825025tanks are just mobile walls
>>94823747>but it looks so coolThis is the way.
>>94819660Another fetus incapable of grasping how a feudal society works. Skitarii are the army of Mars, loyal to Mars. They don't become the default force on all forgeworlds until *after* half the FWs decide to make their own Mechanicum with blackjack and daemonic hookers and the lads back on Mars decide to take a firmer hand with the colonials.
>>94825025Why?
Most of the 40k EC stuff is mk6 so seems pretty easy to kit bash with 30k kits. I never thought we could get a full on EC plastic line
>>94822846What green is that? Coming along nicely
Babe wake up, the new MkVI EC Recon Squad just dropped.
I'm sorry for being retarded, I don't pay attention to HH that much, but when did they add the MK IV tac squad plastic box?I swear to god I had only seen III and VI
>>94825694>when did they add the MK IV tac squad plastic box?About 10 years ago.
Wanna run a forge lord and fill all my elite slots with squads of thallax. What legion should I do this with?
vltramarines in charge of being cringecore daddy's favorites in 40k and simultaneously being one of the most rad-ass-bad-ass and dignified astartes legions in HHhow do they do it ?
>>94825744Night Lords>Bulky rule means they're always outnumbering which means they have an easier time killing everything (especially vehicles)>Terror Assault RoW which struggles to get anti-armour in list doesn't have to compromise since you can take Thallax as a reliable source for anti-armour>Thematically works since NL's would always rather a bunch of mechanicum toys get killed instead of themselvesOther good substitutes however would be Alpha Legion, Salamanders and White Scars
>>94825858>Alpha LegionWhy legion? I get scars for more moves and more use of the +1 and sallies for it will not die.
so where the fuck did all the mk4 helm and shoulder upgrades go on the store?
>>94825760>how do they do it ?The whole trick is pumping your brain with plebbit memes so you get stuck in your confirmation bias comfort zone and waste bump limits on shitposts like this one.
>>94825910Because they're just a strong legion in general and everything kind of just works with them, and having that -2" can help prevent people from charging them when they go in for melta bomb plants on vehicles
>>94825967>Because they're just a strong legion in general and everything kind of just works with themGuess i've never seen much gameplay of them. Only person who plays them in my area is a fuckwit
Do you guys think we'll ever get a plastic Solar Auxilia baneblade
>>94826118I doubt it. Clearly they made these models just for some pics.
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>>94826118I hope I can replace bolters with stubbersBolters are for marinesWill other variants survive?
>>94826160>Bolters are for marinesFuck off, James.
>>94826160If anything SA is multilaser army.Stubbers are for third line units(or primaris), so not Auxillia.
>>94826167I OWN YOUR ASS, DESPAIR>>94826192Eh, I'll take it
>>94826192>Stubbers are for third line units(or primaris), so not Auxillia.Meanwhile, in the actual game...
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>>94816195Sorry to be a mong but the slash folders urls. Are those pastebin or google doc?Second question. New to Titanicus and working on my first army. I was thinking about 3-4 Reavers of Legio Vulpa, and running them as the Corsair Maniple with a theme of melta and melee weapons. Is Corsair Maniple a good shout? I'm wondering if the ability to side step might help set up charges more efficiently.
>>94826207I could never imagine the resin veletaris looking even more kino, based and BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-pilled
>>94826332Something about mega-arachnids in accursed land of new zealand
>>94825682Those sabers are perfect for EC inductii
>>94826293pneumatic exoskeletonplus expert control over center of balance
Thinking of getting into HH this year after finishing a couple projects, and reckon I want to get into World Eaters. Any advice to get started with them beyond using the starter set to make some assault dudes and the special WE terminators?
>>94826359the special eater terminators are not so hot on the overall capability front at least in comparison to those of other legions but that's a good route to go with the cataphractii in the box presuming you'll go the distance of rigging them up to look like the jury rigged prison suits they areeverything will also be on hand to give them all lightning claws were it desired and that's how i'd approach them because it's just crazy cool
consider also fashioning for them a warmonger consul (expanded legacies unit) in cataphractii plate to buzz them in with a teleport on your foe's head if you ever wanted an alternative deployment to shoving them in the spartan
>>94826341You absolute chad. Thanks
>>94824463Shrink them by 5% or 10% or something. Scouts during the HH were fully fledged marines with different, specialist equipment, so they should be only slightly less bulky than a marine in power armour.
>>94826370How are Mortalis Destroyer Squads? Thinking of converting hall the marines into them and the other half into assault dudes for a bit of a rapid assault cqc kind of army.
>>94826359If you wanna build a unit of Red Butchers, give them all dual lightning claws. For a unit of 10 Red Butchers, that's 61 attacks, with re-roll to hit thanks to their build-in Hatred, plus re-roll to wound thanks to Shred on the lightning claws. That should do some real damage, even against units with 2+ armour save. Oh and they attack at initiative 4 that way, rather than initiative 1 with all their other weapons being Unwieldy.
>>94826521it would be wise to factor rampagers with uniform falax blades and ideally jet packs into your thinking of eater assault troops because they are pretty much second to none even amongst all the legions in that gamut of thingsthere is a rite of war that even allows their use as troops outright as opposed to elites atop other flavorful caveats but you're still going to want some line/scoring squads besides
might i recommend...tacticals with chainaxes!?bar-none a stand-out if seriously expensive offering at 15pts per piggy but boy is that a prickly little line fucker compared to what many other legions can managedespoilers, especially of the eater sort, and even assault marines proper, are not quite as given in their makeup to squatting on an objective and getting shot and and looking good while dying potentially in drovesbring apothecaries everywhere you can, they will help
>>94826568He would have to keep in mind that Rampagers are somewhat of a glass cannon. With only a 3+ armour and no invulnerable save, they die real fast if caught out in the open. Terminators are more forgiving in that regard.
>>94826345>Swords designed for and used on Emperor's Children models are a good fit for Emperor's Children modelsWhodathunkit
>>94826568Oh that is a fun combo, will also take a look at that as an option. And agreed about line troops, though thankfully my lgs players seem to be quite casual about play and stick to the 'historical' side of things so I dont need to worry about going tryhard. Quite different than the local 40k scene.>>94826640Aye thats a good point, get to do the classic WE chainaxe but still get to grab objectives and shoot things.I also got the Warhammer+ termie dude built but unpainted. Considering using him as my Praetor, has a legal loadout and came with the right base. Seems like a good midpoint for the HH and the full 40k brass and skulls. Reckon he would be fitting for a later Horus Heresy themed force or a bit much?
>>94826683I think he'd work for siege era, definitely not pre-istvaan though.
>>94826793>pre-istvaanThat's still Great Crusade era, not HH.
>>94826332Check the 40k general.
>>94823296so would a Warlord
>>94823254>He doesn't also put a chainfist on his dreadnought
>>94825682Ah yes. My EC Inductii are here. All wearing heresy legal Mark VI.
>>94827551Very odd how conservative the new 40k EC look when it comes to chaos gribblies. Even Chaos Lords and Lucius aren't covered in random tentacles, mouths, and whatnot like the 40k DG are. You wouldn't need to change pretty much anything about them for a mid-late HH EC army.
Holy fuck Autocannons hurt my thallax so much. My opponent had two blocks of 10 and they wiped out one unit and made the other one run turn 2. If I didn't bring my 3 units of Castellax I would've been fucked. I still lost, but yeah thallax are certainly not invincible even if they are resistant to a lot of marine bullshit. I need to get some thanatars or something to deal with backline units.
>>94827598Hearing about autocannons excelling in game warms my cold, bitter heart.
>>94827510to make his shooting worse than a knight no why would you do that everybody knows dreadnoughts are better than knights
>>94827594primaris backpacks, weirdlyall the post-2017 CSM have them too
>>94827723In what way exactly? The top part and exhausts don't look like primaris backpacks at all, were there more pics during the livestream that I missed?
>>94826640>tacticals with chainaxesBiggest argument against is that for the price of 10 such tacticals you can take 15 despoilers. A bit of a boost in firepower is rarely going to be worth a 50% points premium. It's not like you're playing WE to sit around on objectives, after all.
Anyone got examples of Recon Marines in specifically mk2? I want to grab a squad of 10 with bolters for backline line, despoiler support, and to round me out at 6 line Troops options (40 tacticals, 40 despoilers, 20 breachers, 10 recons), but based on my dude's Lore they didn't get mk4 so the fw Recons are out of the picture.
Had a slow class last night, so... Anybody else want old dreadclaws to come back? I always liked them
>>94828369Should I do the old Wednesday night art dump or post drawings sporadically throughout the week
>>94828041The anatomy creeps me out. Human body should not bend that way.
>>94828369I do. It made more sense than the Anvillus one. The old one looks like it can ram into something and hold one. The Anvillus one had blunt legs that sort of... hugs the surface of a ship?
Gentlemen, I think I've devised the world's funniest solution to deal with heavy weapon squads as mech >vultarax have an effective 16" move and cost 125 points, and ignore Programmed Behavior in the shooting phase so can't get their charge taken by shooting st closet target>Can do their job wrecking a Spartan or something with disruption turn 1>By turn 2, be 32" up the battlefield, with an average 10" charge >if they try and kill them anyway, ir was 250 points who cares that's shooting not going into the rest of my Automata
>>94828573vulturax ignore programmed behaviour in the charge phase anon
>>94828583DAMN IT
>>94828585its a 32" move by turn 2, they can easily park by a HSS, but have to shoot them first which can lead to return fire etcmaybe you can choose not to shoot?
New, migrate when ready>>94828821>>94828821>>94828821>>94828821>>94828821
>>94828377Cop-out answer of: Do whatever makes it easiest for you, anon!I always love seeing your stuff, no matter when it's poster
>>94827598>thanatarsyour opponent would take a 10man of lascanons to snipe it or if your opponent is a rat bastard he'll deepstrike 9 leviathan dreadnoughts right into the heart of your troops using Alpharius. Before anyone asks, I've seen it happen and I'm surprised the guy who pulled it off didn't get punched.
>>94827784big circle on the back of all of them nowI think they're hedging on Chaos Primaris at some future point and don't want to have to redesign everything when it happens
>>94826118I'm just wondering how they will gimp them to stop people using them in 40k like how the HH russ has no sponsons.
