>NY Law to require background checks for 3D Printers Fuck this, I hate my fucking state. God forbid hobbyists can make their own shit.
>>94823365How does a democracy end up with a government that treats its people like children that cannot be trusted?
If you looked at the reason why you would see that it's to stop people from making untraceable guns. This is the fault of gun nut retards.
>>948234293d printed guns are not untraceable, because the actual part of the gun that fires bullets is still a set of manufactured firearm components that are traceable in all the same way that any other gun is traceable. The 3d printer just saves a little bit of money. The whole thing is a fucking boogeyman.May as well be cracking down on drill presses and lathes, and it still wouldn't stop someone with access to a hardware store from making a pipe gun.
>>94823423You think you chose to be governed by a career politician who's been groomed for the position for 40+ years? It doesnt matter which of the two wears the hat because its only ever been about colour when you're not rich enough for it to be about class. That said NY is particularly disfunctional. You should probably just bail>>94823429Gun nuts hate 3d printing though, and even if they couldnt just buy them from boomers in trailer parks they can just make guns fairly trivially out of as little as a pipe, a board and a nail. Hell go to /k/ and mention a glock, see how they feel about plastic guns
>>94823442>Drill presses and lathes Give them time, they'll get to it.
>>94823429Let's penalize everyone for something a small population does.
>>94823442Manufactured firearm are traceable because they put a imprint on the firing pin that marks the rounds. Guns made in someone home is probably not have that. Using a 3D Printers to make a gun may be easier than going to hardware store to do so.>>94823465Then who if anyone is big on 3d printing guns?>>94823475I did not say it was okay they were doing this. I was just pointing to the people who should be blamed for this.
>>94823507>Guns made in someone home is probably not have that.Majority of 3d printed guns that aren't the wholly printed kind are pretty much just the receiver. The handle and trigger mechanism, in other words. Magazine can be 3d printed, but little reason to do it, as it can fail more frequently. Everything else on the spooky 3d printed ghost gun is the slide and barrel off an otherwise normal, metal gun, firing mechanism and all, which will still make the shots "traceable" in the way they would be on any other gun. The media and government are being hysterical in the sort of way they get hysterical whenever a tech company promises Supercomputer AIs will make it so we do all of our office work in VR and buy all of our clothes on the metaverse blockchain with computer chips in our hands. They're being dumb as fuck and don't know how any of the tech actually works.
>>94823507As far as i know the only people making STLs for 3d printable guns are amateur gunsmiths doing it as a hobby, and maybe intelligence agencies. The only people printing them are people with access to 3d printers AND who only need one shot and dont care if their hands explode, so again its probably just an extreme subset of hobbyists and intelligence agencies.
>>94823555I should add that im no expert, but it seems criminals currently dont have any real difficulty getting whatever kind of gun they want, even unregistered home-made stuff in decent quality and quantities if its organized crime like biker gangs. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/news-story/e67da40de031be70cae7cd08ab560cd4
>>94823429The real reason is that the ATF’s fat fucking arse was bounced out of court for trying to stop 3D guns from being made despite the fact that >1It goes against the second amendment >2Criminals can just get better guns that are untraceable because 3D printers aren’t the only way to get an untraceable gunAnd now the anti-gun retards are trying to implement indirect bans with this new one
>>94823642>ATFKek, trust burgers to give their "agents" a weight REQUIREMENT
>>94823669I blame stupid fucks like you.
>>94823646God that fucking obesity report cracks me up every time
>>94823676I already own a 3d printer. And if I need to, I'll just order it to my business in Delaware. But if you don't know who your enemies are, well..
>>94823692Good for you having something you are probably too stupid to use
>>94823429Better ban any machining tools then because a gun is one of the crudest and simplest objects you could ever assemble. Brazilian favela gunsmiths aren’t superhumans.
>>94823706Wow, you sure are getting defensive, you fucking corporate bootlicker. I design and print my own devices. No ghost guns though :^)
>>94823539>>94823642If 3d printed guns is really not a big deal then rather than crying about second amendment like a faggot go out and show that this law on 3D Printers is not needed.
>>94823725Nope you are just retarded.
>>94823743What a bizzarely well-poisoning statement. How do you propose we prove such a thing? Reasoned principled arguments demonstrating the abundance of conventional firearms? Statistical research on the number of printed vs non-printed firearms offences perhaps?
>>94823743I already have. You haven’t proved why it’s so necessary ;)
>>94823750kys bootlicker>>94823743It isn't because shall not be infringed.
>>94823776>>94823793It sounds like you don't really care about 3D printing in tabletop gaming and you just want to shit up the /tg/ with useless whining. If there was no real threat from 3d printed guns then there should be stuff out there to show that. >>94823807No u fagtard.
>>94823906>y-you're just trolling because you wont prove a negative despite me having the burden of proof>adhomeniemHonestly im insulted you thought this would work. What do you think this is, my first day? Take your disingenuous sophistry back to /pol/ where facetious word-mincers like you belong
>>94823934So nothing just like the inside of your head.
>>94823429A trip to the hardware store is a more functional source of guns than any 3d printer that doesn't cost as much as a small house. Four wind shotguns are made of at most five parts that can be had at any location that sells lengths of pipe and nails.
>>94823906And if there was a real threat, there should be stuff out there to show it as well. See what I’m doing here? Or are that self-unaware? :^)
>>94823507>Manufactured firearm are traceable because they put a imprint on the firing pin that marks the roundsThat’s not true. The only state that had that requirement was California, and it was basically a soft ban on any newer pistols being sold in the state because no gun company could economically produce them. It was thrown out in court pretty recently too. AFAIK no gun company does the firing pin mark thing.
Trying to ban anything over the potential that it could be used to make guns is the most pointless form of fear mongering. If someone managed to construct and kill a major public figure with this piece of shit in a country with some of the most draconian weapon laws on the planet, it’s a losing battle.
>>94823429All guns should be untraceable.
>>94823429>it's to stop people from making untraceable guns.The thing that's legal in the US? How is buying some pipe, screws and springs going to be anymore traceable if you add some 3D printed plastic into the mix? Considering that a "firearm" in legal terms is a very specific part, you can pretty much buy most of a firearm and then manufacture yourself the remaining few parts.>>94823507>Using a 3D Printers to make a gun may be easier than going to hardware store to do so.3D printer is not a Star Trek replicator. You still need plenty of non-3D printed hardware to make a firearm. Often the 3D printed guns you see is just the registered part while everything is normal firearm parts that don't need similar regulations.
>>94823996Take it to the people who made the law faglord.
Sic semper tyrannis.
>>94824150I accept your concession, anon ;)
>>94823429Better start Banning metal pipes then too.
>>94823507>Manufactured firearm are traceable because they put a imprint on the firing pin that marks the rounds. Guns made in someone home is probably not have that. Using a 3D Printers to make a gun may be easier than going to hardware store to do so.That's not true. Stop falling for dumbass urban legends.
>>94823507>Manufactured firearm are traceable because they put a imprint on the firing pin that marks the rounds. Okay? You can't 3-d print a firing pin with plastic
>>94824231No you don't
>>94823507>Manufactured firearm are traceable because they put a imprint on the firing pin that marks the rounds.GHOSTED.com
>>94824140Most people are too stupid to understand it.
>>94824063It's more security circus. The bans/restrictions are more about looking like they are doing anything rather than actually fixing issues.
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