Metis/Impuro/Stillborn/Crinos-born Edition>Previous Thread>>94803577>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionHow do you use society matters in your games? Is this something that affects heavily your game or do your players ignore it at all?
>How do you use society matters in your games?Can I get a translation into English (Native Speaker)?>Is this something that affects heavily your game or do your players ignore it at all? [sic]lmaoYeah we don't really do social issues in our games, nobody really cares. I mean, they're present but that's just part of the setting, it's not a big deal.
Pure Breed 5 looking ass motherfuckers
Better thread question:What makes your character sad? And did something happened in a game that made you cry irl?
>>94827304>What makes your character sad?So, so many things.His heart's deepest desire is to be mortal again. He misses the warmth of the afternoon sun. He misses the feeling of a cold drink of water after you've worked up a sweat. And he misses the taste and smell of warm bread.He lives in a world where all these things are just over the horizon. But the horizon can never be reached. It moves with you.
>>94827733Anyone familiar with the Ghost Hunters supplement for Wraith20? I've been curious about it seeing here a few threads ago because I'm interested in running a game about ordinary humans, not imbued hunters, in the world of darkness. I know about Hunters Hunted as well, but I'm not as interested in vampires.
What's the ratio to human for all the different beings in oWoD? Like how many vampires, ghouls, werewolves, kinfolk, mages, etc. should I expect in the city/suburbs/countryside and so on. Are people going to be constantly tripping over supernaturals?
>>94828139wod had some stupidly low numbers for monsters that weren't really consistent with the number of books actually in the books but from what i remember:vampires had one in 100.000 as a goal of the camarilla, but it was acknowledged that there are more howver other books gave both 40k and 100k as numbers for the estimated world wide vampire population of the pov characters and the later included kuei jin and laibonthe old tradition gathered books said that only one in 4 million even has the potential to awaken another book said that there is one mage for every 25 vampire when the vampires aren't on the war pathnobody cares enough about changelings to count them as before c20 they usually only around for a decade before needing to be reborn garou are apparently in the single digit thousands and some fera barely number in the hundreds(beside rat kin who are doing fine)wraiths are given a generic "more than the living"and mummies are in the two digits world wide before the 6th malestrom and we don't know how many there are afterwards
>>94828139Werewolves are supposed to be rare. Like they're a dying culture. You could probably fit all the werewolves and kinfolk in the world into a small city with room to spare. Mages are even rarer, awakening is hard and uncommon.Vampires are more common. Like ignoring the settings own fucking stupid logic1 vampire for 100k humans officially is the camarilla number with OWODs officially estimation of all the vampires in the world being like 22k. 30k with the kuei Jin included. It's so blatantly stupid it's laughable.The actual numbers of vampires just by logic is probably closer to fifty thousand to a few hundred thousand at max? Rare but not overwhelming numbers but there are a lot of the fuckers. Vampires are the only splat on the uptick rather than dying out/alongside Wraith.Ghouls are even more numerous especially in cities. There can be many ghouls for a single vampire multipled by the aftermentioned estimate you're most likely to come across a vampire than anything.Anon roughly estimated in splats that Wraiths in total across the skinlands, deadlands and various soulforged objects hover around 25 billion and growing fast by willpower demographics in werewolf's deliriumchart. Wraiths are exceedingly common, you just can't see them usually. There are also a lot of fallen, most of them are just stuck in the Abyss.Mummy and Hunters are rare lol.Changelings are nearly non existent in our world because banality moment. But they're out there
>>94827304>Better thread question:>What makes your character sad?Taxes.
>>94826310>>94827659I understand your frustrations, you Kinfolkcels.You don't interact with any females and have no chance of breeding IRL and yet the world has eugenics and breeding mechanics, and you wanna lash out about it. But I assure you that in any game that has any modicum of timeline continuity across the eras like, let's say, a game line that has had a Medieval setting for the last 30-something years and has a game about playing as immortals as its flagship title, having mechanics to establish how your breeding and genetic inheritance works, is very important.Shit, the players that were teenagers when 1st and 2nd edition came out have bred already.Have you?>>94826325Anon, read the dot descriptions. Is about how closely you look to said ancestors. It's not about who your ancestors were, it's about how similar you are to them.Next time please read the entire thing and interpret the entire forest, not just one little tree.
NWoD in contrast gave ratios which never matched. With the older works trying to cleave closer to OWoD and newer works embracing a more horror in every town vibe.CoD just dumped all the ratios and numbers for vibes.Except for a single reference in BtP, where the Supernatural/in the know population of New Orleans was listed at 0.5%With 3/4 being lesser splats like ghouls and probably supernatural merits.That still puts the CoD supernatural pop of splats alone at 1/1000 and 5/4000, averaging 1/800 once you get to a large population. And that doesn’t match what even other books like Tokyo did (always a slightly cringe book). Which was closer to dividing those number by 10 again.
>>94827304>What makes your character sad?What makes my current /schreck/ character sad is being a Vampire.>And did something happened in a game that made you cry irl?No. Never had any of my players cry in a game I was STing either. I traumatise my players through scary brick-shitting stuff, not through emotional damage. They already have their parents for that, and I could never compete with them.
>>94822966>Checked>Well, the concept comes from banshees being tied to families. I didn't knew that, but now it makes more sense.You can tell, but between writing that first sentence and this one, I stopped and read a little bit on Banshees. And realised I didn't knew anything at all about them.Thanks for being the driver of whatever little education I now have on the subject!>The original take I had in mind was linking the curse to the her herd, but I thought that it would be weird to play. I agree, the system you devised makes a lot more sense in comparison.But doesn't it take away the Monster aspect of Vampires? As in, they get The Big Sad because someone else did something to their blood dolls. In terms of Vampires, that means they're gonna keep their dolls in a dungeon so they never die and never cause The Big Sad.>Plus it’d suck because you have to invest in the herd background, and it only comes into play when you’re about to permanently lose the investment.Yes, but the way to circumvent this problem is the same as the way to circumvent your current idea for a 'clan' flaw, which is to never get any Herd, or never drink 3 times from the same source. Maybe Vampire Banshees are always around dying people because they have to be there for some reason? They either gain something from feeding from those about to die, or get a penalty if they don't, idk.>Why have no Giovanni made a computer out of skeletons lolWho's to say that's not how Federico Faggin came up with either the 4004 or the Zilog?>Well, I wanted to be tied to sadness and crying instead of bloodthirsty rage. Plus it’s more of a curse than something tied to the vampiric condition.Hmm what if the reason the Banshee bloodline weeps near those who are about to die is because if they don't feed on a moribund they start getting The Big Sad after some time?They could be having The Big Sad because they know they're probably gonna finish the job there, maybe.
Hey, if I wanted to represent slamfiring a shotgun how would I represent it? Raise difficulty by 8 or 9 then make a guns and strength/stamina check?
>>94829056Slamfiring tends to fuck your accuracy and your shoulder without preparation. A diff increase for the dex+firearms roll seems appropriate along with decreasing the gun's effective range. I'm not sure what you'd offer as a buff, probably being able to shoot twice an action?
>>94829056Slam-firing a shotgun is not like bump-starting a motorcycle. Some pump shotguns have the mechanisms for slam-firing, but most don't.It's not because you see people using slam fire to rapid-fire Herr Pumphagel that you necessarily have to do it fast like that, so long as you're holding down the trigger, it's gonna fire every time you pump it. You can see that around minute six of the video down below, the guy pumps out an empty shell, holds down the trigger, then aims, and starts slam firing. I'd say mechanically-wise, you can have a slamfire manoeuvre that adds in some difficulty for aiming and hitting the targets, and use the Rate of Fire of a semi-auto shotgun instead of the pump action.Bizarrely, WoD Combat does not have such a manoeuvre. It has stats for using a GYROJET but not for slamfiring a shotgun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soUvGvv2NTk
>>94829342BTW this is a Gyrojet if anybody's curious.It's a handgun that fires tiny rocket ammunition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOtQElMEdi0
gib dot of resources now!
>>94829726bad bone gnawer baaad
>>94829726>the George Washington staring up in horrorOh Mighty Dollah forgive these bone gnawers. These dumbasses know not what they're doing
>>94829829Those are Federal Reserve Notes.
>>94829852Understandable. Destroy them so the currency can deflate.
>>94829726No.Go find a dead end job like normal werewolves.
>>94829976>woofs>holding a jobThey have kinfollk for that
>>94830060oh you are using """legacy""" content don't you know kinfolk got removed completely because they are problematic now garou are all about balancing working 9 to 5 and being the neighborhood watch in a doomed worldno i don't know why paradox wolf thinks that the american job market makes for good gameplay or great urban fantasy storytelling
You now have 5 dots worth of backgrounds to spend on in real life. You may pick any background you want, even splat specific ones, but keep in mind that you're still a mortal human, so some may be useless. Which ones would you pic?
>>94830060Sorry, sweaty, you are a W5 werewolf.You WILL have a shitty job.
>>94830101A nice Mentor who can teach me cool supernatural stuff.
>>94830101Does this assume we already have some dots in backgrounds or are these 5 extra dots?
>>948301545 extra dots on top of what you already have in real life. So if your rl wealth is equivalent to 2 dots you could stack 5 more on top to get to 7.
>>94830101If I choose Avatar, do I become a mage?
>>948301014 dots in devices gives me a mechsuit that is supposedly not magical but can beat the shit out of tanks and is better than what iteration x is running around which i will then sell to the us army, fuck you tony stark
Is the topic of Legacy mages ever touched upon in Mage? If you're more likely to awake if the supernatural is normalized to you; With how much of a separate society mages had such as Doissetep and Horizon before the Avatar storm. Wouldn't most of the big shakers and movers in the traditions be born to awakened parents? Like two Hermetics meeting during their apprenticeships; a Verbana witch being knocked up by a druid during a Dionysian festival, etc? I'm realizing that would basically quickly turn into the wizarding world of Harry potter, with the majority of magical society born into it, and then a rare few are normal joes. But still.
>>94829726Fuck money, live the Bone Gnawer lifestyle.
>>94830639Awakening has nothing to do with Genetics.It has some requirements, like having at least Willpower 5 and realising the Consensus is Bullshit. If you grow up around Magick for all intents and purposes you're like an Acolyte. You don't think twice about it. Yeah, Magick exists, Mom and Dad do it all the time. That's part of their pre-existing Paradigm. Creating the metaphysical head boink required to Awaken such an individual might be quite complicated.
>>94830639there are some magical families like the Pallottino but just because it's more likely that they will awaken if bought up in a occult enviorment does not mean guaranteed so most family members will be sorcerers instead while only a "handful" will be mages>https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Pallottino some giovanni families(dunsrin, ghiberti, koenig etc) also have sorcerers of their own (dunsrin even being non necromancer hedge mages) and the Rosselini familiy at least used to have a handful awakened mages among them before they got added to the clan (it's mentioned in the messianic voices part of one of the dark age mage books), but i have no idea if that's still a thing that is happening or if the traces of vampire taint ruined them
Why are so many people saying camariya now? I’m a Spanish speaker but it sounds so dumb
>>94830938Isn't it Cah-ma-rill-ah?
>>94830938>>94830973Ca, Maria! Ca!https://www.instagram.com/vampirethemasquerade/reel/CsBte_MAlW1/
>>94830938Because it's a Spanish word?
>>94828911You’re welcomed!>But doesn't it take away the Monster aspect of Vampires?Then again, it doesn’t take away the human aspect of the story. It embellishes it even!She doesn’t view those she is bonded with as blood dolls. Back in England, those she fed upon were her family, her neighbours, her fellow townsfolk. People she had ties through generations, or that she observed from the shadows and grew to love (helped by the bond) throughout the years. The tragedy is seeing them growing old, knowing that any day could be their last, then knowing exactly which day it is and then being unable to do anything about it.And even kindred aren’t totally immortal, so ghouling or mass embracing them isn’t a solution. It will only cause misery.>Yes, but the way to circumvent this problem is the same as the way to circumvent your current idea for a 'clan' flaw, which is to never get any Herd, or never drink 3 times from the same source.A flaw that you have the intention of circumventing isn’t a flaw that you should pick. I know that I don’t plan to do this with mine.>Maybe Vampire Banshees are always around dying people because they have to be there for some reason? They either gain something from feeding from those about to die, or get a penalty if they don't, idk.There’s a type of fae (Banshees) that need to kill people to gather glamour and whatever wraiths have. It’s similar to your idea.>Hmm what if the reason the Banshee bloodline weeps near those who are about to die is because if they don't feed on a moribund they start getting The Big Sad after some time?Well, the idea started with a Sister of Cacophony, though I suppose with her curse she could start her own bloodline. Though she probably wouldn’t see any reason to embrace.
>>94830973I say ca-ma-ri-la, but half the youtubers I’ve seen try to copy Spanish and say ri-ya. some get confused and randomly switch between la and ya too
>>94830862Most of those attracted Giovanni on the basis of already having secret family traditions of necromancy, it could appear heritable just from relations being the only possible teachers and students. And Dunsirn get numina for being kinfolk I guess.
>>94831138La just sounds cooler though>>94831053Exactly lol! Ca Maria!
>>94830938because some ppl can't say ria without adding the y in-between and some of those are massive faggots that think using anglicized pronunciations is offensive
>>94831176>it could appear heritable just from relations being the only possible teachers and studenoh i didn't mean to imply that there is anything genetic to it, but when you are surrounded by the occult you are more likely to awaken and we see that with one family (Rosselini ) so it could also be true for the rest so i felt like i should mention them
>>94826845A better idea than 5 edition for VTM.Vampires created AI
>>94830101Fate 5
oh i know now why the fae blood merit is cheaper than the ghoul one if the other anon who talked about it with me last week is in the thread: in previous editions awakened kinian's couldn't do cantrips because their avatar would just translate it into sphere magic so they buffed the merit in m20, but kept the original cost>Players familiar with Changeling: the Dreaming and its rules for Kinain (humans who are blood relations to Changelings) should note that while Awakened mages can possess Fae Gifts, they are unable to learn Changeling Cantrips. Any attempt to learn them simply results in the character mimicking the Art’s effect with the appropriate Spheres (assuming she has them). Sorcerers and Psychics, as well as those Kinain who don’t bother to learn human magic, can learn the Arts and Realms necessary to cast Cantrip but some find the act of seeking out a Changeling mentor willing to teach them more trouble than it’s worth.-guide to the traditionsthe m20 merit mentions nothing like that so it might be the one time a 20th edition is more crossover friendly than what came before
Wonder how many playmates and loyalists Pledge with wyrd10fags to go with them when they ascend. You could build your femboy harem out of other keeper's sloppy seconds and have a stable without ever needing to visit the fallen world again after you go full faerie.
We once in a game made a pretty funny (well, to us at least) leitmotiv of PCs arguing with every vampire they met about the proper pronounciacion of VtM linguo... nothing like telling the Prince he's pronouncing Camarilla wrong, or the Tremere Primogen that he can't even utter his clan name properly, and how can he be taken seriously?
Related: I don't care what anyone says, it's Broo-zhah, not Broo-hah. They aren't witches, fuck you.
>>94830862>>94831176Dunsirn are a fun case because not only they have ties with Fianna, but they also have ties with Verbena Mages (probably since this Tradition and Fianna has ties since the Impergium). They are a crossover family just like gypsies and their connection with Garou, Vampires, Mages and Fae.
>>94831262Looks like the Merinita were right.
>>94831396>>94830862>>94831176Funny addition: In Wild West Werewolf setting, there was a Dunsirn Kinfolk called "Piper Dunsirn" who had Pure Breed 2 (Fianna) and was having "strange dreams" related to ghosts and visions, pointing out she would Transform sooner or later. Her background also pointed out the Dunsirn has not only Garou lore on their libraries, but also Cosmology knowledge.You can read about her either on wikia or Ghost Town supplement.
>>94831396>>94831453i am really a sucker for the idea of multi splat families like that so you might have just sold me on the Dunsirn
>>94827304I was once in a Beast game (good ST, so it was fun despite Beast's flaws), and my character realized how fucked up he was psychologically over a decade before the plot of the game because he accidentally killed a (mortal) friend of his in high school and felt about as bad about it as if he'd run over a cat on the way home from school. He did the bare minimum to feed after that point because he didn't like himself and he felt guilty for not feeling all that guilty about his actions.>>94828272The vampires make sense since they flock to urban areas, making it so their populations tend to cluster on one spot over a wide area. The Garou numbers don't make any sense though. Funnily enough, WtF werewolves were probably the most numerous of the playable monsters. If I remember right, Blood of the Wolf says 1 in 15,000 people are werewolves, meaning their are over half a million Uratha running around.
>>94828911I took inspiration for my character from Ancient Magus Bride. If you want to see more faeries, or some inspiration for modern fantasy I highly recommend it!Here’s the chapter where a banshee became a house spirit!https://the-ancient-magus-bride.online/manga/the-ancient-magus-bride-chapter-24/#google_vignetteI wonder, Melpominee can induce emotions into others (heard a tale from someone that a DoC put suicidal depression into a kaiju garou metis to turn it against its tribe)… but can it the absence of emotions into a victim? Similar to the Apathy from RWBY?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UMSmjzV5T8M&pp=ygULUndieSBhcGF0aHk%3DAlso I really want to use this song for the Death of the Drums power. Though there should exist a version of the skill ability that does damage in mass like most powers of Melpomineehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Cb7wW9GGo&pp=ygUSRXZpbCByYXB1bnNlbCBzb25n
>>94831408don't get my started on the Merinita... i had a player play one of these fucks in Ars magica and they not only get to learn two completely different magic system (hermetic magic and fairy magic) they get spell improvising by reverse engeering fairy magic into hermetic magic and later can get the ability to mix magic systemsso in wod term it's like if a guy says "i cast a spell with time and naming, prime and actor to make it so that you true name changes all the time forever" and you have to sit there as the current st and decide if that are the correct parts of the magic systems or not
>>94831262That raises a question I've been wondering. I believe Kinfolk can be Kinian unless I'm missing something, but can werewolves?
>>94831777Immensely based.But you do get numbers for your troubles, so all is well.
>>94831803sorry, werewolf and changeling are both not my strong suit when it comes to wod crossover stuff i would recommend looking up the fianna and fiona books and chapters given that those are so close one literally created the other
>>94830938Paradox just wants to seem more diverse and culturally aware.>>94831138Ironically, you could argue the L pronunciation is more accurate than the Spanish pronunciation that they're trying to promote. Medieval Spaniards didn't speak like modern Spaniards after all and Spanish "ll" was pronounced more like LY. A Spanish elder and especially Rafael de Corazon would interpret the modern Spanish pronunciation >>94831053 as the backwards speech of those barely Spanish southerners from the Moorish regions.So make sure to spit on those who pronounce Camarilla as Camarija, Camariya, or Camaria the next time you see them, proud elders only say Camarilya.
>>94828699And only 2 of those dot levels have to do with appearance. I'm saying it's fucking retarded, because the important part is still that the ancestors you look like are renowned. Anyway, the spiritual part is doing the heavy lifting. How is your average Garou, even an elder, going to know what your legendary ancestor looks like? Making it past 60 is enough to be seen as a legend. Past Life got renamed before because the name actually had nothing to do with what was important about the background, that being that you have a strong spiritual connection with your ancestors.
>>94831815That's the thing. The only tribe book I've ever read was the Fianna one, and while they did have some information on changelings, I can't remember it saying anything about it.
>>94831976a google search tells me that atleast acording to someone in the onyx path forum it's a thing>https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-classic-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-apocalypse-aa/229936-werewolf-kinfolk-and-changlingsbut if that forum poster is correct then the kinfolk book says you can't have Gnosis precludes having Glamour so that would make it pretty worthless if true
>>94831976If I'm remembering right, Gaian blood overwrites the ability to be kinain, but they can be faerie kin which does something else, I can't remember. Probably in the revised player's guide if I had to guess.
I have decided that the web of pain exists in my oWoD games.Humans are, and always have been, fucking with shit they barely understand.
the tremere tell us that they are a pillar of the camarilla and then they have masquerade violations like this running around in vienna...by the way i did translate some more pages from vienna by night>https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/general-world-of-darkness-discussion-thread.914481/page-326#post-108217598>https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/general-world-of-darkness-discussion-thread.914481/page-326#post-108246827
>>94830938I think Dawkins, or some other public figure, normalized it and other youtube cringelords followed lockstep. If losers don't understand why it would be inevitable that many American vampires would say Cammarilluh and Bruja, they might need to touch more sunlight. Ironically, the only Spanish-speaking Cammy cities would pronounce the l.
Why isn't it a normal responsibility of the Philodoces to oversee the kinfolk breeding grounds?
>>94831803>>94832022so here is the thing you can be a kinfolk kinian but you have tho choose if the kinfolk or the kinian part is primary and the primary powerset overwrites the other one
>>94832022>>94832110Kinfolk are likely to be able to be Kinian either way, as it would be weird that they can be changelings (Changeling 20th in a flaw) but not Kinian.
Why don't the Shadow Lords simply kill 90% of the Glass Walkers, and get the mandate of heaven from the other tribes to usurp the Silver Fangs?
>>94832251>If losers don't understand why it would be inevitable that many American vampires would say Cammarilluh and Bruja, they might need to touch more sunlightMayhaps americans should stop being retarded ignorant morons?
>>94832392>>94832361>kinianKinain, bro, not Kinian.
>>94832361I guess that answers it.>>94832417Linguistic drift is a thing, and English is famous for appropriating words from other languages.
>>94832425in my defense i copy pasted from the post i was answering because the kinfolk book only calls them changeling kin
>>94832361but isn't gnosis just quint? and Kinain sorcerer and mages (or well see above) work
Where would I look to find groups for these games? I've moved recently and I'm looking to try roleplaying after a long time away from it.
So is this a pretty good representation of the Eurasian Garou political map for the ones that claim human borders for their own?
>>94832827No.
>>94832827not really the black furries' main sept is in the french alps and the get's main sept is in south germany for example the bone gnawers are big in france and probably more i am too sleepy to look up
>>94832665It gets weirder with Nunnehi, since they're connected to the Umbra and use Medicine rather than Glamour, and that stuff is either converted into Glamour, or is just straight up gnosis/quintessence under a different name.
>>94833128The latter
>>94832868Sept of Blood Fist is not their Tribal Sept. Their Sept in Uppsala is still their Tribal one. Bone Gnawers has a Sept in Paris.Black Furries' Sept in Rhone-Alpe is just another Sept. And talking about France, even though Silver Fang's House of Gleaming Eye having their headquarters in France, the country has a greater concentration of Get of Fenris and Fianna to the point they share the country. >probably more i am too sleepy to look upGo sleep, anon. You deserve have a nice night of sleep.
>>94832868Yeah, go to sleep Anon. Self-care is based.
>>94831262desu being a mage who dabbles in Arts is probably more trouble than its worth, since it'll kept attracting weird changeling types that can easily enchant you since you're kinain.
>>94830938Reminds me of that one american food youtuber who pronounces nutella as nuteya. lmao
>>94830200Yes, but you’re Awakening is going to be traumatic and your Avatar is going to be an absolute dick toward you.
>If Werewolf: The Apocalypse™ was a songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7rLdd8EiJQ
>dying bad>so bad in fact that i'm gonna completely and irreversibly fuck up the cycle of death and rebirth so no one can ever dieWhat was his fucking problem?
>>94832406Because the Shadow Lords, contrary to popular belief, are not evil.
>>94834159Voormas was just being a little bitch.
>>94834143actually it's this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6yfTckSls
>>94834143>>94834192https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DkHdd9vdeEReal theme coming through
>>94834192Christ, the comments on that video gave me an aneurysm. Also it's a funny how a few WtA pics managed to sneak in.
>>94834143https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPelKg8eoWspowerful...
>>94834053It may actually be worth it
>>94834234>pls dont get me wrong is just cause, well you see werewolves and then all of a sudden "I like BMW´s" it just made me laugh thats all, i like bmw´s to my friend as a chanel and hes obsessed with that stuff, sorry dont get me wrong XDWHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>94834271>permanently lose all ability to do actual magicHow tf is that worth it?
>>94834319Sorry, I don't follow.Anon said choosing Avatar would actually result in becoming a mage. How does that lead to losing the ability to do magic?
>>94834338Don’t worry. It’s just a Sorcerer seething over the fact his hedge “magic” doesn’t get him respect from wielders of REAL power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOAqI_wO_MAWhat tribe do the werewolf choir belong to?
>A rogue Weaver spirit, AI, is trying to become an Incarna>Contacts you to help its goalDoes your pack help or destroy it?
>>94834373Getting a cool mentor with Alchemy 6 would be pretty good too.
>>94834379That’s literally just the Galliard auspice.
>>94834338OWoD mage is mega cucked, second only to vampire.
>>94834400Autocthonia must not be allowed to expand, we're destroying that bitch side-by-side with the EDEs just like we did at Mir Station.
>>94834440Yep. The writers realized the power of sphere magic so they tried to kill in utero anything that they deemed munchkinny, especially crossovers, which is why in Blood Treachery there's a large unhinged rant about how you can't be a revenant mage (even though that would be really underwhelming)..
>When that ONE player shows up with a Malkavian character sheet
>>94834464Eh. When you've seen one fishmalk, you've seen them all.
>>94834159Consanguinity of Eternal Joy? More like the Consanguinity of Eternal Onions. Nailed it.
>>94834454The virgin spheres>paradox always enforced, even for marauders>shit effects>developers go on unhinged rants about how you should be weak and explicitly limit your options in crossovers>players aren't trusted to play nephandi because rping as one would make you become ontologically evil irl>struggle to access surface levels of other splat's alt. realitiesThe chad arcana>paradox rarely relevant, even when it is there are dozens of ways to completely negate it and most of the effects hardly even matter or are deliberately invoked>spells that put every other published effect in a white wolf game to shame>developers explicitly state the supremacy of mages in the foreword of books>the average scelsti has higher wisdom scores than the players; full player facing game systems for liches and multiple variations of scelesti with xp/etc costs for their unique powers>casual access to the underworld/hedge/shadow/etc.. Ignore half the rules because magic works on the spiritual laws of the corresponding dimensions.
>>94834538Based and MtAw pilled
>>94834538I invoke the Spheres of Mind and Time! You saw nothing.
Am making a Hermetic of House Tytalus. I have two ideas as for the starting Sphere spread (Forces is the Affinity Sphere in both cases):>Forces 2/Correspondance 1/Mind 1/Prime 1/Spirit 1>Forces 2/Correspondance 2/Prime 1/Spirit 1Which would be the most functional option?
>>94834644I'd suggest going Forces 2 Correspondence 2 Prime 2 or if you want the first option put the Spirit point into either Mind or Prime. Spirit only becomes useful when you hit 2 dots. Also good luck with surviving your Mentor.
He looks so derpy lol.
>>94834538Never played oWoD mage, but without fail, whenever I've played nWoD mage, there was always one guy talking about how mages were so much better/more powerful in oWoD.
>>94834658>tfw you've just seen what V5 did to your clan
>>94834644>TytalusMeh.At least it's not Flambeau.
>>94834582>needs time to erase memories with MindlmaoI can't believe you call this magic>>94834666It's very easy to come away with the reading that owod magic is incredibly strong, and it's very easy to come away with the reading that nwod mages are incredibly fragile and limited, but the common element is that these impressions come from reading what is essentially IC narration without ever so much as glancing at the rules (or developer commentary, for that matter).Chances are that those guys have never played owod mage either. If you were actually sitting down and playing awakening, does that mean nobody was doing dice tricks like indefinite duration ritual spells?
would you?
>>94834744>nephandi>purely mortal motivations, grubbing for scraps of political relevancelol
>>94834651I also thought of adding Matter into the mix. Is it worth giving it a dot right now or is it fine to learn it in play?>>94834676I was planning to make a Flambeau originaly cause they're the closest to my favorite Craft (Taftani), but I don't really dig the underlying "crazed suicide bomber" schtick the Flambeau got going on. At least with Tytalus, it becomes much more chill once you manage to eke out one win over the Mentor.
>>94834686>If you were actually sitting down and playing awakening, does that mean nobody was doing dice tricks like indefinite duration ritual spells?This was a while ago now so I have no real memory of what they did, but a couple of the players had what amounted to The Matrix's lobby scene. I know one rendered himself literally unkillable as he'd just regenerate to full HP every turn, and mowed everything down submachine gun fire, while the other one took a knife to a gunfight and attained flawless victory.Unkillable mage was the one who kept talking up MtA at that particular table.My own Mage experience is really fucking limited, that table's scenario lasted about 5 sessions and it's the longest I've ever run a Mage character (just an endless stream of one-shots really), so I didn't do any shenanigans of my own. Everything I had was for sleuthing.
>>94834766Well, someone has to be the dreg.
